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Pineridge Hotel, Darjeeling
The Mall, Chowrasta,Darjeeling
Ranked 68 amongst 269 hotels in Darjeeling
Pineridge Hotel Reviews
"The hotel location was very nice"
The hotel was located in the centre of the city. The garden was not available at the hotel. The hotel location was very nice. The hotel appearance was average. There was no problem in check in and checkout process. The room given to me was spacious with neat and clean. All useful amenities provided in working condition in the room. I didn't take fo....Read More
"Poor services but good hotel"
I visited this hotel in the month of June and the stay was good. The hotel location was good and easy in travelling. The appearance of the hotel was good. The booking and front office was good. The staff were poor in services and the Wi-Fi was poor. The room was good and clean and neat with all the facilities were in proper condition. There was no....Read More
"All amenities were available"
The room provided by the hotel was neat and clean. All amenities were available in the room. The food and drinks were available in the hotel was good. The hotel was located in the city. The appearance of the hotel was nice. There was no delay in check in and checkout at the booking office of the hotel. I had visited this hotel with my family for pe....Read More
The location of the hotel was good. The hotel was located in the city. The transportation facility was nearby the hotel. The parking facility was provided at the hotel. I went this hotel by my own vehicle. The room was neat and clean. The check in and checkout was on time in hotel. The behaviour of the receptionist was very friendly in the hotel. T....Read More
"Conversation was not that much"
The hotel location was very good. The hotel was located far away from the transportation facility. The appearance of the hotel was good. The activities were not available in the hotel. The room provided by the hotel was neat and clean. All the amenities were available in the room. The food and drinks were available in the hotel was fine. I would su....Read More
"Conversation was not that much"
It was a very good hotel. I was regular customer to this hotel. The hotel was located inside the city. The overall experience of the hotel was good. The appearance of the hotel was nice. The room was booked in advance. The service was good in the hotel. The behaviour of the staff's was friendly in the hotel. The room was good in the hotel. I had ta....Read More
"Appearance of the hotel was good"
I had visited this hotel for family trip. The destination of the hotel was good. The location of the hotel was very good. The appearance of the hotel was good. The service of the hotel was good. The workers were less in the hotel. The allotted room was spacious with clean. All amenities were available in working condition in the room. The complimen....Read More
"The complimentary breakfast was not provided"
The hotel was located in centre of the city. The appearance of the hotel was average. All the facility was in working condition in the room. The room allotted to me was spacious but not neat and clean. The food quality was good. The complimentary breakfast was not provided by the hotel. The food price was reasonable. The activity was not arranged a....Read More
The hotel appearance was not so good. The hotel location was beautiful. The check in and check-out was done on time. The allotted room was not neat and clean. I didn't take food from the hotel. The overall, service was nice at the hotel. The activity was not conducted at the hotel. I had visited this hotel with my family. I would suggest this hotel....Read More
"Service of the hotel was good"
The overall, service of the hotel was good. The location of the hotel was good. The transportation facility was not provided by the hotel. The appearance of the hotel was good. The garden was available at the hotel. I had visited this hotel with my family. All the facility was provided in the room. The check in and check-out was done on time at the....Read More
Top Reviews of Pineridge Hotel
"Comfortable Living at a heritage building "
Writing a review about the Pineridge Hotel is different. It's like writing a review about your own home. That's what this hotel has been to me during all these years whenever I've traveled to Darjeeling. Pineridge is unique in its location - its right on the Chowrasta!!! For the uninitiated, the Chowrasta or the Mall is the heart of Darjeeling town. Located on top of Nehru Road, this is a nice flat land where tourists and locals come to lounge in the sun, take a seat on one of the many benches along the periphery, and watch the wonderful views of the mountain peaks and valleys all around. If you want to feel the real vibe of Darjeeling, watch people and activities, this is the place to come. And this is right outside your Hotel. Chowrasta is just one step away from the hotel lobby. Pineridge Hotel is now a heritage building which retains beautifully the architecture of the British colonial days. As you enter the hotel through the huge heavy teak wood doors with glasses, you will see a large antique mirror in front and the reception counter on the right. From the reception and the lounge area, there is a long carpeted corridor with wooden paneling on the wall, and as you walk along the passage, look around and see the high ceiling, you can feel the intricacies of the colonial architecture. Rooms are large and have teak wood and mahogany furniture that are mostly antique. There is a dressing table with an oval mirror with carved mahogany wood and an antique chair. The large wooden cupboard has a full size mirror. The rooms also have a sofa and a table where you can relax and have your tea. Rooms are carpeted and also have fireplaces. There is a TV in the rooms with standard cable channels. The staff is always available for you for anything you may require to make your stay comfortable and this is helpful especially for first-timers to Darjeeling. Suraj and his colleagues are always there to answer all your queries and arrange for any assistance that you may require. I highly recommend the Pineridge Hotel to anyone fancying a trip to Darjeeling. I promise it will be your most memorable one.
"Best location and good rooms"
Pine Ridge is a hotel I would come back to a million times just for its fantastic location - right on Chowrasta and within 1-5 minutes walking distance from all the famous places in Darjeeling like Glenary's, Keventer's, Nathmulls, Konga's, Shangri-La (right opposite), Chai Chun, etc. As well as the walking route that covers all the viewing points, churches, museums etc. When you feel lazy, you can just go sit on the benches on Chowrasta and enjoy the evening shows - they're ten seconds away. Note: If you like to stay in quiet, off-beat areas then this is not the right choice because it is right in the middle of the buzz. As for rooms and service - our rooms were the newer, renovated ones and they were pretty good. I've heard that all rooms aren't equally great - so, take your chances with that. They have at least fifty rooms. The hotel is decently clean - not shining in every corner, but nothing that would cause difficulty. The washroom in my room was almost as big as the room itself which was huge, was very clean, and had running hot water 24*7. Room service was done everyday. The view from the window was very nice! Of course, not all rooms are the same so do your research before you put your money on this. But the hotel is so conveniently located that I'd choose it every time, even if I had smaller or worse rooms - because you can literally stay out exploring the whole day due to it's location!
Have stayed in Pineridge Hotel, Darjeeling, several times. The location is very good, just besides the mall, so shops, restaurants, etc are a stone's throw away. The rooms are okay, some of the rooms feature antique furniture (though not in very good condition). No WiFi, or play area for children. There is a small open area, though not very clean. The service is not up to the mark, tea/coffee often takes about 30 mins to be delivered - and sometimes requires a reminder. The breakfast (toast and omelette) was served without any cutlery (spoon or fork). We waited for about 15 mins for them and then ate with our hands as we were getting late and couldn't wait any longer. Didn't have lunch or dinner, so can't comment on the cooking. Some facilities need to be improved, like a few more plug points for charging phones/laptops etc would be welcome. The room had just one (apart from the TV plug), so you couldn't charge 2 phones simultaneously. The geyser was another problem, the water flow from the hot tap was a trickle, so it took a lot of time and waiting. Overall the hotel scores due to the location, but needs to improve service for a pleasant stay.
There was no activity arranged by the hotel. I had visited this hotel with my family. The overall experience of the hotel was good. The location of the hotel was nice. The garden was not available at the hotel. It was a good hotel. The room was neat and clean. All the amenities were provided in the room. The service was on time in the hotel. The check-in and check-out was on time in the hotel.
"Excellent hotel with superb rooms "
It was a dream stay. The hotel was right on the mall. We thought that we were in the mall whole day. We enjoyed the sunrise everyday from the hotel and also from mahakal temple. Besides the hotel room was superb. The big room, location furniture got us in the old days. Colonial feelings were smelt there. There was a complete privacy also. Only wish there was a moderate restaurant was there for food. But we loved the hotel. I wish I go there once again.
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Presented at the Society for Academic Emergency Medicine Annual Meeting, Chicago, IL, May 2007.
Original Research Contribution
Performance of the Canadian CT Head Rule and the New Orleans Criteria for Predicting Any Traumatic Intracranial Injury on Computed Tomography in a United States Level I Trauma Center
Version of Record online: 17 JAN 2012
DOI: 10.1111/j.1553-2712.2011.01247.x
© 2012 by the Society for Academic Emergency Medicine
Academic Emergency Medicine
Volume 19, Issue 1, pages 2–10, January 2012
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Papa, L., Stiell, I. G., Clement, C. M., Pawlowicz, A., Wolfram, A., Braga, C., Draviam, S. and Wells, G. A. (2012), Performance of the Canadian CT Head Rule and the New Orleans Criteria for Predicting Any Traumatic Intracranial Injury on Computed Tomography in a United States Level I Trauma Center. Academic Emergency Medicine, 19: 2–10. doi: 10.1111/j.1553-2712.2011.01247.x
The authors have no relevant financial information or potential conflicts of interest to disclose.
Supervising Editor: Joshua Goldstein, MD.
Publication History
- Issue online: 17 JAN 2012
- Version of Record online: 17 JAN 2012
- Received May 16, 2011; revision received June 16, 2011; accepted June 17, 2011.
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ACADEMIC EMERGENCY MEDICINE 2012; 19:2–10 © 2012 by the Society for Academic Emergency Medicine
Objectives: This study compared the clinical performance of the Canadian CT Head Rule (CCHR) and the New Orleans Criteria (NOC) for detecting any traumatic intracranial lesion on computed tomography (CT) in patients with a Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS) score of 15. Also assessed were ability to detect patients with "clinically important" brain injury and patients requiring neurosurgical intervention. Additionally, the performance of the CCHR was assessed in a larger cohort of those presenting with GCS of 13 to 15.
Methods: This prospective cohort study was conducted in a U.S. Level I trauma center and enrolled a consecutive sample of mildly head-injured adults who presented to the emergency department (ED) with witnessed loss of consciousness, disorientation or amnesia, and GCS 13 to 15. The rules were compared in the group of patients with GCS 15. The primary outcome was prediction of "any traumatic intracranial injury" on CT. Secondary outcomes included "clinically important brain injury" on CT and need for neurosurgical intervention.
Results: Among the 431 enrolled patients, 314 patients (73%) had a GCS of 15, and 22 of the 314 (7%) had evidence of a traumatic intracranial lesion on CT. There were 11 of 314 (3.5%) who had "clinically important" brain injury, and 3 of 314 (1.0%) required neurosurgical intervention. The NOC and CCHR both had 100% sensitivity (95% confidence interval [CI] = 82% to 100%), but the CCHR was more specific for detecting any traumatic intracranial lesion on CT, with a specificity of 36.3% (95% CI = 31% to 42%) versus 10.2% (95% CI = 7% to 14%) for NOC. For "clinically important" brain lesions, the CCHR and the NOC had similar sensitivity (both 100%; 95% CI = 68% to 100%), but the specificity was 35% (95% CI = 30% to 41%) for CCHR and 9.9% (95% CI = 7% to 14%) for NOC. When the rules were compared for predicting need for neurosurgical intervention, the sensitivity was equivalent at 100% (95% CI = 31% to 100%) but the CCHR had a higher specificity at 80.7% (95% CI = 76% to 85%) versus 9.6% (95% CI = 7% to 14%) for NOC. Among all 431 patients with a GCS score 13 to 15, the CCHR had sensitivities of 100% (95% CI = 84% to 100%) for 27 patients with clinically important brain injury and 100% (95% CI = 46% to 100%) for five patients requiring neurosurgical intervention.
Conclusions: In a U.S. sample of mildly head-injured patients, the CCHR and the NOC had equivalently high sensitivities for detecting any traumatic intracranial lesion on CT, clinically important brain injury, and neurosurgical intervention, but the CCHR was more specific. A larger cohort will be needed to validate these findings.


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Game 103 Thread / Cubs @ Reds (3 of 3)
|Alfonso Soriano, LF
|* Scott Hatteberg, 1B
|Ryan Theriot, SS
|Ryan Freel, CF
|Derrek Lee, 1B
|* Ken Griffey Jr, RF
|Aramis Ramirez, 3B
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they weren't this close late
they weren't this close late in 04? hm.
why the hell did the astros trade wheeler for wiggington? i know it's deck chairs on the titanic for both those teams right now, but wouldn't you rather have blah bullpen arm than a blah corner position player?
couldn't you at least get a "C" prospect for wheeler instead of someone who is a known, and crappy, entity?
Floyd gets the day off, yet
Floyd gets the day off, yet Murton is not in the lineup.
Soriano 7
Theriot 6
Lee 3
Ramirez 5
DeRosa 9
Fontenot 4
Pagan 8
Hill 2
damn u dusty! hell, the kid
damn u dusty!
hell, the kid is probably on his way to KC for jimmy gobble.
sad that the best RF'r on the team is the best 2nd baseman on the team, too.
...not that the bench's full
...not that the bench's full coverage this year isnt nice...its been damn nice.
Wiggington is an above
Wiggington is an above average offensive second baseman. With Biggio retiring and Burke not very good this is a good pickup for Houston if they play at 2b. As a corner guy he is average (actually would be a vast improvement in RF for us), but honestly Wheeler is a average pen guy. Wiggington is more valuable than some C prospect.
Nice to hear from you again,
Nice to hear from you again, Ruz. We all wish it were more often, but heck, Cubdom is happy nowadays and not much to complain about.
Dear Cubsfanswhowroteoffthisseasonbeforeitreallybegan,
I just have 2 words for you: EAT CROW! Don't worry, though, it's the sweet kind of crow that goes down easily. It's called winning baseball. Let's keep this up for the remainder of the season. Go Cubs!
Impressions from GABP last
Impressions from GABP last night:
* Could not believe it, but there seemed to be a 1:1 ratio of Cincy fans and Reds fans. I can only assume there are a lot of Cub fans in the Cincy & surrounding area. I know some of them came from Chicago, but I have a hard time believing all of them did. I drove from Ft. Wayne, In.
* Jacque Jones made up for his lack of offense by making some pretty amazing plays in the OF.
* This might be a "duh", but Cincinnati fans are not thrilled with Adam Dunn one bit.
* Cub's base coaching is really sloppy at 3B. I can't see the Cub's going into the playoffs with such sloppy base coaching. You just can't do that.
* It's always good to see an active HOF player who everyone still respects. Jr, one of the game's "good guys". The ovation he received was well deserved.
* GABP itself was nice (never been there before), but I had a couple points of contention with the experience there:
1. Re: the cheerleaders, I've always been on the side of the fence of, ahh whatever, if they want to do that, fine. I was there with 4 buddies of mine and it just didn't seem right. There were a ton of kids in the crowd and it was just kind of awkward. Two thumbs down on the cheerleaders. I've decided it's not for baseball, especially the Cincinnati area.
2. Re: the jumbotron. I've always thought if they wanted to put a jumbotron up at Wrigley, that would be fine with me, but I'll tell you I was watching the jumbotron when Soriano hit his 2nd home run. Not only is it distracting, but the animations they use at GABP on the jumbotron were cheesy and generally terrible. The most amusing part was the Kiss-cam.
Everything else was really nice there. If anyone goes, I highly recommend hitting Nicholson's, it's an Irish pub a few blocks away from the park.
"Floyd gets the day off, yet
"Floyd gets the day off, yet Murton is not in the lineup."
So it looks like Murt is on the block.
ratio of Cincy fans and Reds
ratio of Cincy fans and Reds fans.
Doh, I mean Cincy fans and Cub's fans.
"Two thumbs down on the
"Two thumbs down on the cheerleaders. I've decided it's not for baseball, especially the Cincinnati area."
Also not recommened for the Milwakee area either.
I just noticed that Cubster
I just noticed that Cubster is officially on board already. About time. I won't complain though if the good doctor spends the rest of this season talking about other teams injuries. Let's keep that bug away from Wrigley for the rest of the year.
The Reds Lineup: The Pickin
The Reds Lineup:
The Pickin Machine
(("Floyd gets the day off,
(("Floyd gets the day off, yet Murton is not in the lineup."----So it looks like Murt is on the block.))
Generally speaking, when a player is on the block they showcase him on the field, not the bench. Do they not?
while i would like to see
while i would like to see murton play, i wonder how much of this has to do with the poor defense that seemed to annoy lou earlier in the year. i remember murton making a couple of really bad plays just before he was sent down.
Agree with CWTP. Maybe Pagan
Agree with CWTP. Maybe Pagan is on the block.
Put it another way, Pagan is certainly on the block. But maybe someone is interested.
Pagan hitting .280/.290: trade him while he's hot.
Only trade Pagan if you
Only trade Pagan if you can't trade Jones. Pagan is the perfect 4th OF. Jones would be the perfect 4th OF except he gets paid like a starter.
"Generally speaking, when a
"Generally speaking, when a player is on the block they showcase him on the field, not the bench. Do they not?"
When a trade is immient the player in question usally sits to advoid injury. With his late scratch yesterday and not playing today when Lou said coming into this series that Murt would get a start leads me to think he is in escrow.
A more innocent explanation
A more innocent explanation of who's playing/who's not is that Jones in oh-for-Cincy, so Pagan is playing, and DeRosa is ahead of Murton on Lou's depth chart for RF. Murton was penciled in last night because DeRosa was already playing at third. Then Floyd asked in.
chifan3887 — July 29, 2007
chifan3887 — July 29, 2007 @ 10:03 am
Wiggington is an above average offensive second baseman. With Biggio retiring and Burke not very good this is a good pickup for Houston if they play at 2b. As a corner guy he is average (actually would be a vast improvement in RF for us), but honestly Wheeler is a average pen guy. Wiggington is more valuable than some C prospect.
CHIFAN: Looks like the Astros got Ty Wigginton to be their everyday 3B, since they just DFA'd Morgan Ensberg.
Also, Dan Wheeler's days in HOU were probably numbered after he got into that one-way shoving match with Chris Sampson a couple of weeks ago (Sampson was just trying console Wheeler after he blew Sampson's lead, and Wheeler went off on him). And of course the D-Rays are absolutely desperate for bullpen help.
Lou just said that Murt will
Lou just said that Murt will get plenty of playing time next week. He wanted Fonty's left handed bat in the lineup today, moving DeRosa from 2B to RF and Murton to the bench.
RUZ! Welcome back! It's
Welcome back! It's great to see you. The writing staff here is incredible these days in case you haven't been following very closely. Having you post on occasion would really be icing on the cake.
Some observations:
*I have to pinch myself that there's a chance we could be a half a game out at day's end.
*Big Z could have 14 wins before August. Really?
*Two days until the deadline. I'm guessing Hendry does not make any moves that qualify as more than minor tinkering--at most one reliever and one bat off of the bench. *The reliever may not even be necessary if the pitcher who shall remain nameless (Let's just call him Carey Would) actually can contribute to the team this season.
*Rocky Cherry has a future with this team it's just probably not this season in any pivotal situation. I'd love to be wrong.
*We now have the RallyRuz. Playoffs here we come.
Could our offense be more
Could our offense be more mediocre this year?Here's the average line (for players and teams) in the National League as of this morning:
.262 .329 .412 .741
the Cubs line
.269(5th) .329(8th) .411(8th) .740(8th)
correlating perfectly with our OPS is our runs scored: 476(8th)
VAPHIL: "Put it another way,
VAPHIL: "Put it another way, Pagan is certainly on the block. But maybe someone is interested."
I do not agree with this. He is a wonderful 4th outfielder, fast, nice in the field, and has pop.
In hearing two interviews with Mark DeRosa (what a cool, engaging, funny guy) he went out of his way to compliment Pagan on his overall skills and feels he is underappreciated.
He is too valuable to the club now and has earned a spot on the roster to go in a marginal trade. Imo, it would be Murton who'd be shipped in a deal.
Welcome back Ruz! I do not
Welcome back Ruz!
I do not agree with this. He is a wonderful 4th outfielder, fast, nice in the field, and has pop.
Pagan is fast, but not nice in the field. His defense is actually pretty lousy, but he is able to make up for some things with his speed/athleticism. He takes TERRIBLE routes to balls and has at times looked quite silly out there.
A little bit off topic here,
A little bit off topic here, but I found this amusing. Check out the Cubs team page for the Japanese version of mlb.com here: http://mlb.yahoo.co.jp/team/profile/?c=24
I know most of you don't read Japanese, but check out the section in the middle of the page with the pictures. The heading says "Principal Players". There is a certain #22 in an I-Cubs hat. Priceless.
You'd think that's because they haven't updated in a while, but Soriano's right there with him. They also have "owner" as "Andy McPhail," though. That site needs updating big time.
AZ Phil, I read that
AZ Phil,
I read that speculation in the Chronicle today and its just been made offical:
He looks like Barney Fife
He looks like Barney Fife
Sad to say, but rather than
Sad to say, but rather than tradebait, right now, Matt Murton is in danger of becoming another Bobby Kielty.
MLB needs a weight and age
MLB needs a weight and age limit for its umps. West has in horrible postion to make that call.
Koyie Hill needs to watch
Koyie Hill needs to watch some video of himself trying to hit the ball by jumping at it.
It's amazing he ever gets a hit.
FWIW Jay Payton is not
FWIW Jay Payton is not playing today for the Orioles.
So was soriano's hit a HR
So was soriano's hit a HR without fan interference?
The umpires just robbed
The umpires just robbed Soriano of a 2 run Home run but they called fan interferance. Because Zambrano was not hustling around the bases the umpire would not award him home plate on (according to the umpire) a ruled double.
Z was almost walking from
Z was almost walking from 1st to 2nd...that lack of a run was his own fault in that specific part of the situation.
2 outs, Z...should be running anyway.
ESPN 1000 is reporting that
ESPN 1000 is reporting that a deal that would send Murton and a couple of prospects to the Reds is taking shape. The cubs are said to have "no interest" in acquiring Adam Dunn and ESPN is speculating that the Cubs have made a "strong push" towards acquiring Griffey Jr. and have offered the Reds a "very attractive package of players" that could send Pie along with Murton and a couple of pitching prospects. They also speculated that this could be a three way trade or the Reds could be offering Arroyo up if the Reds get Hill, Pie, Murton, and a prospect but that seems unlikely. If the deal goes thru it wont be finalized until after the Reds/Cubs series which ends Sunday.
the reds wouldnt dare pull
the reds wouldnt dare pull anything like that til the cubs left town...but then again look who the reds GM is...hey, he got hamilton right.
fwiw...which is almost notta given how late in the year it is...the cubs do play @cin one more time this season to close out sept.
ooof...3 K for Koyeeee Hill
ooof...3 K for Koyeeee Hill today. He looks dreadful at the plate. Maybe he should face Belisle from the right side?
Any more from those ESPN
Any more from those ESPN 1000 reports?
"His defense is actually
"His defense is actually pretty lousy, but he is able to make up for some things with his speed/athleticism. He takes TERRIBLE routes to balls and has at times looked quite silly out there."
Well, Mark DeRosa, as well as Cubs beat reporters would strongly disagree with you. Unless you see him in-person often, I would take your "route to balls" theory your own. Of course, you did not want the DeRosa signing to even happen, right?
Z is batting .291 Isn't
Z is batting .291
Isn't there a stat for adjusted ERA given a pitcher's offensive ability, or lack thereof?
Gameday just said "Injury
Gameday just said "Injury Delay" and then "Coaching Visit to Mound" and then Ohman replaced Z.
Someone please tell me it wasn't something horrible, like his arm falling off. I'm on biz in southern Oregon and I need to know these things!
Nothing big Jordan, someone
Nothing big Jordan, someone grounded a ball off his ankle I think. He wasn't even hobbling around or anything, Lou just took him out as a precautionary measure and because he'd already thrown 113 pitches anyhow.
He took the ball off his
He took the ball off his ankle in the 5th or 6th Inning, no word on broadcast, like shef said he appears ok
They also speculated that
They also speculated that this could be a three way trade or the Reds could be offering Arroyo up if the Reds get Hill, Pie, Murton, and a prospect but that seems unlikely.
Which Hill?
Ah, must be Rich. Meh.
Ah, must be Rich. Meh.
Cards down to Mil 3-0 early,
Cards down to Mil 3-0 early, but threatening with a duck on every pond and Nooooooooooooobody out.
Forget anything I just
Forget anything I just posted, it's what I get for relying on Sportsline. I think it's 6-1 Mil, but who knows.
Brewers are up 5-3 in the
Brewers are up 5-3 in the bottom of the 5th
It's also starting to rain
It's also starting to rain pretty hard in st. Louis.
Thanks Lou. IT COULD HAPPEN
Thanks Lou.
lol, at my foolishness, I
lol, at my foolishness, I thought it would be nifty to put the newest slogan that I read about in SI at the bottom of each post, but was just as inaccurate as CBSporstline.
Milwaukee's lead down to 5-4
Milwaukee's lead down to 5-4
Brewers 5-4 over St. Louis
Brewers 5-4 over St. Louis going into the 6th. The rain has also slowed.
Wow, Houston is making a
Wow, Houston is making a game of it. Now 15 to 11. That is a very insane game there.
I'm watching the rest of the
I'm watching the rest of the Cards game in parachat if anyone wants to come in.
So, is Jr. Griffey a Cub yet?
So, is Jr. Griffey a Cub yet?
Instead of using Hill, Murt,
Instead of using Hill, Murt, and Pie to get Griffey maybe we should wait to the offseason and see if Schuerholtz would take those guys for McCann if the Salty/ Tex trade talks fall through. Lou is noted to be tough on his catchers and I wonder if its because how close he was to Munson (he gave the eugology at his funeral) that he wants his catcher to be a reflection of Munson. McCann is the one MLB catcher who is a Munson clone. Hits for a high average with some pop, great defender, and a team leader. With ATL's money issues maybe if they think Salty and McCann are near equal talents they will take a drop talent at C to add 3 quality cheap players.
Arroyo for Rich Hill and
Arroyo for Rich Hill and Pie?
Not a good trade in any way.....none.
St. Louis with men on 1st
St. Louis with men on 1st and 3rd, nobody out in the ninth, trailing by one.
meh, meh, meh Kennedy
meh, meh, meh
Kennedy strikes out
Rolen, base hit, career RBI
Rolen, base hit, career RBI 1000 and the game is tied.
#59 should have read "top of
#59 should have read "top of the eighth" inning not ninth.
ball four! 6-5
ball four!
wow the brew crew bullpen is
wow the brew crew bullpen is really blowing the deal these days..its weird rooting so hard for the cardinals.
and Pujols clears the bases
and Pujols clears the bases
9-5 Cards another Brewers
9-5 Cards
another Brewers meltdown
Time to start keeping an eye
Time to start keeping an eye on the [email protected] Cardinals as well....
They don't have the overall talent that the screwers do, but they have a lot more of the things that don't fall into categories like experience and desire.
Should we be concerned that
Should we be concerned that the Breweres have woken up a sleeping giant in St. Louis.
Technically, the Cubs may
Technically, the Cubs may have awakened the giant in question a couple games ago.
Brewers lose! Go Cubs!
if anyone knows the Heimlich
if anyone knows the Heimlich manuver, you should really head to Milwaukee, there is a team that is choking!!!!!
they are under the crest of chad. next stop .500!!!
we win tomorrow 1st fucking place!!!!
w00t! 1/2 game back... big
w00t! 1/2 game back... big home stand coming up. Go Cubs!
The schedule favors St.
The schedule favors St. Louis right now. It's going to be tough to keep the Cardinals from picking up some games on us. Their next six are against the Pirates and Nationals while I believe we play the Phillies and Mets.
nothing is impossible but
nothing is impossible but the cubs would have to really melt down and the cards will have to catch fire to get back in this. if the cubs went .500 from here on out, we win 85 games. the cards woudl have to go .600 here on out. As long as we play above .500 baseball, we will stay ahead of the cards.
my point? my point is that as long as we keep winning, its too late for the cards to 'out win' us.
My sister met the Piniellas.
My sister met the Piniellas. Maybe 3 or 4 weeks ago, Mrs. Sweet Lou seemed to think that Griffey Jr. really wanted to come to Chicago to play for Lou again. I think it will happen. God's honest truth. She also said that ARod didnt want to leave the Yankees.
I think Griffey would be fun in RF, but a liability and injury risk due to the difficult playing conditions out there.
Wow. I just worked on
Wow. I just worked on something, peeked at the MIL-STL score, and yelled "Yes!" loud enough to scare my cat. The Brewers blew another one?
I can't believe I'm looking forward to this week against Philly and the Mets...
imo, the cards are not on
imo, the cards are not on the radar until they get to .500.
How much teeth is there to
How much teeth is there to that Griffey trade rumor? Or is it just sports radio dipshits talking out of their collective ass?
IACUB, I think that there
I think that there is no question that the CUbs are trying to get grif, i just don't believe the reports about who else is involved.
Chad, who do you think
Chad, who do you think Hendry is willing to give up for Grif?
Oh, and have you been starting any shit over at brewcrewball? There's someone over there who is a Cubs fan with maximum snark and smackdown. It's pretty fun to watch the meltdown there.
Good grief. Can we get
Good grief. Can we get excited about the season yet? 1/2 a game out of first? This team has some serious moxy...and I don't mean moxygoshthisitchesherpes. At least I hope they don't have herpes.
Next stop first place!! Go Cubs!
Sheesh. I haven't felt this excited since 2004 before the meltdown. I really like the attitude Sweet Lou's team is giving off these days.
i go by that site but i
i go by that site but i don't post cause i don't want to be a troll. would we want some brewer fan or cardinal fan here?
I'll keep my fighting and snarkiness to the guys here. oh, i'm an even bigger ahole over at that other Cub blog. those ass hats desereve it.
Good grief. Can we get
Good grief. Can we get excited about the season yet? 1/2 a game out of first? This team has some serious moxy
I'll tell ya one guy who isn't excited (probably because he was just here to peddle tickets).... Mr "this is a .500 team" mannytrillo.
Chad, with you on that.
Chad, with you on that. Trolls suck, indeed. Do you remember that psycho Seahawks fan after the first Bears playoff game coming over to WCG? Also hear you on The Other Cubs Blog Which Shall Go Nameless. Some real dickweeds over there - any time you express snark over a stupid f'ing play by the Cubs they get all pissed off like you've insulted their mommy and daddy. I love the Cubs, but damn, if they make a dumb play I've got to talk about the elephant in the room.
I measure my Cubs mania by
I measure my Cubs mania by how frequently I go looking for news articles. It's been ramping up the past few weeks, and with us only being half game back and with the trade deadline, it seems like I'm now constantly scanning the newswire.
We're now ahead of MKE in the loss column. Far freaking out.
"Should we be concerned that
"Should we be concerned that the Breweres have woken up a sleeping giant in St. Louis."
check out that pitching and breathe easy.
outside of duncan/pujols there's not a lot to fear in the lineup aside from some interesting mid-level lineup pieces like encarcenon/rolen (sorry, rolen just isnt what he was) and a buncha singles hitters like eck/miles/kennedy...
that pitching, though...phew...wow...ugg...
La Russa has a way of taking
La Russa has a way of taking crap and turning it into a team. Still with their rotation, I can't see them being a real threat of anything. Kip Wells? Seriously? Isn't he a Pirates cast-off?
from ye olde world o'
from ye olde world o' roto...via cubs.mlb.com
"According to MLB.com, Matt Murton was supposed to start Sunday, but was scratched because manager Lou Piniella felt he had too many right-handed bats in the lineup and wanted to insert at least one lefty."
LA and Arizona both on the
LA and Arizona both on the verge of losing.
Cubs will be 1 GB in the Wild Card from both teams, who share the virtual tie for the NL West lead. SD is 0.5 GB in that race as well.
I know the division is more exciting, but I just wanna get in the p*******.
Bears acquire Darwin Walker
Bears acquire Darwin Walker for undisclosed 08 draft pick.
Color me excited about the acquisition. Hope the pick isn't too high.
Been a good sports day. :D
re:#87 via roto? via
via roto? via MLB.com?
see #20, Lou Piniella said it in the pre-game show on WGN Radio
FWIW, Rosenthal said this
FWIW, Rosenthal said this evening on the national Fox Sports radio feed that he didn't think Griffey would get dealt.
Actually, he didn't even mention the Cubs in any trades, instead focusing his "Cubs time" on us getting Wood back to bolster the pen.
ZHL: I know the division is
ZHL: I know the division is more exciting, but I just wanna get in the p*******.
John Steinbeck once wrote "it is not good to want a thing too much. It drives away the luck." I'm cool with that, though, because I'm not a big believer in luck.
Besides the fact that they lost both games of the double-header last night, and lost a 4-game series with the struggling Reds, the Brewers have suffered some heartbreaking individual losses at a time in the season where they are expecting to perform.
Exhibit 1 -- The comeback win the Rox staged on the first game back from the ASB.
Exhibit 2 -- The dramatic 5-2 win the DBacks took on July 18. The score remained 2-2 nearly the entire game until the 8th when youngster Mike Reynolds hit a 3-run shot.
Exhibit 3 -- The comeback win SF took on July 20th.
Exhibit 4 -- Valentine's dramatic walk-off single in the 12th to beat Milwaukee on July 23rd.
Exhibit 5 -- The walk-off home run Jr. hit to take the 3rd game of the series from the Brewers on July 26th.
Exhibit 6 -- Despite being up 5-0 against the Cards today, the Cards come back and win it 9-5.
It's been a heart-breaker ever since the ASB for Milwaukee and it can't feel good if you are a Brewer.
It's been a heart-breaker
It's been a heart-breaker ever since the ASB for Milwaukee and it can't feel good if you are a Brewer.
Sure as hell feels good if you are a Cub !!
Grif would be a nice
Grif would be a nice addition, but I still feel Dye will be packing up and moving to the northside.
Seems as though our old
Seems as though our old friend W will pitch on Tuesday evening at AA Tennessee when the face the D-Jaxx. The plan is to come in during an inning and then pitch the entire next inning.
If that goes well, it sounds like Thursday may be the callup day.
Little Nate Lewis — July
Little Nate Lewis — July 29, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
FWIW, Rosenthal said this evening on the national Fox Sports radio feed that he didn't think Griffey would get dealt.
Actually, he didn't even mention the Cubs in any trades, instead focusing his "Cubs time" on us getting Wood back to bolster the pen.
LITTLE NATE: I agree with Rosenthal.
If they couldn't complete the Zambrano extention because ownership is in limbo, how can the Cubs hope to take on Ken Griffey Jr's mega-contract?
Junior is making $12.5M per year through 2009 (or a $4M buy-out for '09). So he's owed about $4M for the rest of this season, $12.5M next year, and at least another $4M (if the contract buy-out option is exercised for 2009 post-'08).
If Hendry does indeed have the OK to commit that kind of cash post-2007, then why wasn't the Zambrano extention completed?
what's the worst winning
what's the worst winning percentage on the road, by a team which made the playoffs? Maybe the Brewers are going for that mark
They can't dave cause they
They can't dave cause they ain't making the playoffs.
I sense some sympathy for
I sense some sympathy for the Brewers death spiral. I'm too old and blue for sympathy on any level for any team. Not after what this team has put me through.
Besides, the Brewers are the team of the future. It's pretty much a lock they'll win the division within the next three years.
It's a really good young ball club.
O&B: That team is a lock
That team is a lock for nothing. They have 2 stars in Braun and Fielder and out side of oft injured Ben Sheets their pitching sucks. The got lucky for a couple of months but now the mirrors are shattered and the smoke has cleared. JJ Hardy is showing that he's NOT going to hit 30+ homers ever (18 in the first half) and Ricky Weeks and Bill hall are good players but nothing special.
They still have GOFF (sic) Jenkins and Corey Hart in the outfiled and excuse me if that doesn't excite me.
This was their one year and they lost it. Turbow is turning back into the pumpkin he is and Cordero is a decent closer but far from the guy he was in texas.
I got news for you, the team that is going to win the central for the next three years is the Cubs.
Chad, I'd feel better about
Chad, I'd feel better about saying that if Zambrano was signed.
Chad, the last time you
Chad, the last time you confidently predicted doom and gloom for the Brewers (ie Crest of Chad day), Milwaukee went on a tear for about 2 weeks.
In other words, stop jinxing us...
I sense some sympathy for
I sense some sympathy for the Brewers death spiral.
none here,
they have sucked on the road all year and I suspect they drug the sausages on the visiting team's buffet table at home
Chad: I got news for you,
I got news for you, the team that is going to win the central for the next three years is the Cubs.
That's pretty ambitious. Actually, it's kind of depressing the Cub's are having as much trouble as they are trying to win the division.
I keep hearing the rumor
I keep hearing the rumor that Pinella does not like Murton: however Matt is the Cub player that most closely resembles Lou as a player. Both featured pretty good offensive skills and limited defensive ability.
Old and Blue: I sense some
Old and Blue:
I sense some sympathy for the Brewers death spiral.
Absolutely not. When I wrote the post about the heartbreaking losses, my point was these losses have to effect a young team in a bad way. No way they walk away from these last few weeks pumped up a ready to play Tuesday.
Advantage Cubs.
I didn't even mention the
I didn't even mention the loss of Sheets.
Dave in Pit:
what's the worst winning percentage on the road, by a team which made the playoffs? Maybe the Brewers are going for that mark
They say good teams play well on the road.
Whoever is posting as here
Whoever is posting as here we come on Brewcrewball is hiarious. Keep it up whoever it is!Those Brewer fags are actually offended by his use of internet lingo. HA!
ZHL: I know the division is
ZHL: I know the division is more exciting, but I just wanna get in the p*******.
p*******, P*******???? You want to talk about P*******?????????
i would say that i don't
i would say that i don't think its cool for that guy to be trolling like that. its one thing to go there to talk about the brewers and cubs and such and another just to talk shit. i think he's pretty rude.
Rynox, my comment was
Rynox, my comment was directed at you specifically, and I didn't mean it as criticism anyway. There's even something to be said about a team that is winning the way they have been.
That said, I'm in a take no prisoners type of mode, and I am hoping the Brewers build some character by going down in flames.
Umm, I meant it WAS NOT
Umm, I meant it WAS NOT directed at Rynox specifically.
As the guy who ran out to
As the guy who ran out to punch Randy Meyers said...
"its gonna happen."
FWIW, it's not exactly a
FWIW, it's not exactly a death spiral by the Brewers, although I'm sure to BrewersFan it feels like the wheels are falling off.
For some perspective, here are some charts of how the NL Central teams are tracking against the .500 mark: Season to date and Since June 1.
So was this ESPN 1000 report
So was this ESPN 1000 report (see post #35) simply a one-time B.S. statement, or have they been mentioning this rumor throughout the day?
Anyone had the station on today?
Good question, LNL. I've
Good question, LNL. I've been wondering the same thing. That's kind of a big time rumor for ESPN 1000 to report and then apparently drop. Is there more news?
Dont know if this was
Dont know if this was mentioned but this is from espn.
Zambrano left the game with cramps in his right calf after striking out pinch-hitter Norris Hopper leading off the eighth inning.
"Any time I can do anything -- hitting, running the bases, kicking the ball -- I've got to use my God-given ability," Zambrano said.
well the one thing the
well the one thing the Brewers haven't missed so far is Ben Sheets...
Griffey would look good in
Griffey would look good in RF and solidify us there, but it depends on who is included in the package.
Regardless of his recent injury history, the guy is 37 years old (despite his "Jr." status) and is a fraction of the player he was in Seattle. This is the guy who was supposed to break all the records. He's living off his past reputation, because he's not that player anymore.
Murton or Jones certainly are tradable, but giving up both R. Hill and Pie would be tremendously expensive. With Griffey's fat contract, that makes signing Zambrano more complicated. Big-Z is much more valuable commodity.
Also, Hill is a better pitcher that Arroyo any day of the week. Given the "average" offense of the Cubs, it's clear that pitching is why they are in contention. Why give it away?
Dusty Baker (broadcasting
Dusty Baker (broadcasting with John Miller and Orel Hershiser on the ESPN Sunday night game) recalled that he was on deck when Hank Aaron hit #715 (true) and that they stopped play to celebrate it (true). Dusty then claimed that when he came to bat, he heard "clank clank clank clank" -- the sounds of chairs folding up as people left (probably true :). He then claimed that he hit a double (false according to retrosheet).
BRAVES 4TH: Evans reached on an error by Russell; Aaron homered
[Evans scored (unearned)]; Aaron's 715th to pass Ruth - 11
minute delay for celebration; Baker walked...
He then told an interesting story I'd never heard before. I found an article on the web where Dusty had told it previously:
"What impressed me," Baker said, "is how calm and focused and determined and driven he was, especially with all the death threats. People don't believe the scope of it, but I was there. I remember one night, Hank said, 'There's a guy here in a red coat who's gonna shoot me. You better not sit next to me.'
"Me and Ralph [Garr] sat with him anyway. Hank didn't look around at all. I was the one looking around, and if I saw anybody in a red coat, I was ducking. The guy of course never showed up, but that whole game we were scared."
Now that I read further, I see that he also claims in that web article to have hit a double. Either he's nuts or retrosheet is wrong.
Of course, the two aren't mutually exclusive...
Sorry about the duplicate
Sorry about the duplicate posting.
I agree with you Chad, on
I agree with you Chad, on the Brewers meltdown..not for the same reasons, nut I do agree. The Brew Crew is a year ahead of schedule, maybe 2...
Corey Hart: .284/.353/.516...16HR, 44 RBI, 16/20 SB
Cliff Floyd: .294/.357/.397, 4 HR 33 RBI, 0/0 SB.
I'll take Hart.
Beat the Phillies Cubs...C'mon!!!!!
Hey Roy Hobbs, We are not
Hey Roy Hobbs,
We are not trading for 1997 Jr. we are trading for a guy who this year has hit:
.274 .387 .531 with 25 home runs
He has more homers than our big three. Our big three who are in the prime of their career.
Jr would be a great player for us. I just don't want to sell the farm for him.
Dusty, Corey Hart is a nice
Dusty, Corey Hart is a nice player. But I don't think he's special. And Cliff Floyd is really a stop gap measure. You should be comparing Hart to Soriano.
Chad, I completely agree.
I completely agree. 1997 Griffey was made of unobtanium. 2007 Griffey is a solid but overpaid injury risk. I would enjoy having him on the team, but I don't want to see the Cubs get "Nomar-ed" again. Anyway the Cubs won a ton of games without hitting a HR.
I can see trading Jones, Murton, Pagan, and maybe even Pie or Marshall. But any trade of Rich Hill is a mistake, and I don't think Hendry would make that call. I also would hate to see Soto leave in any moves. I'm anxious to see the kid play.
Nat, Right now I think we
Right now I think we agree with each other. I wouldn't trade Rich Hill either. I would trade Gallagher and Murton for Griffey.
Realistically I think
Realistically I think Griffey's worth more to the Reds than anyone else, which makes him unlikely to be traded.
It seems unlikely to me,
It seems unlikely to me, too. I am pretty sure that, of the names frequently mentioned to be on the block, Griffey is the only one I would want for the Cubs.
Griffey isn't going anywhere
Griffey isn't going anywhere kids. He's within closing distance of 600 HRs and he's the only reason why people show up for games here in the Natti. Dunn has worn out his welcome, but he's nearly impossible to deal due to his pending free-agency if dealt. The only Reds players that can/will be dealt are Hatteberg, Conine, and Lohse.
Even the 2007 version of
Even the 2007 version of Griffey would be a nice fit into the line up. It would provide a respected bat in the 5 spot of the line up. If a package of Murton, top level pitching prospect (Gallagher) and a good lower level prospect will make it happen, then roll the dice.
I agree that Rich Hill and Marshall are too valuable to this team to trade, especially without Z signed for next year and the lack of any quality starters on the market.
I don't recall the Nomar deal being that costly to the Cubs. Cubs got Nomar and Murton and gave up A-Gon, Francis Beltran and Brendan Harris if I recall correctly. I'll take Griffey in a similar deal.
Would've been nice if
Would've been nice if Seattle tanked and Jose Guillen was available. With them still in it in the AL West, not sure there's a "perfect" player out there for the Cubs. (Money, who we need to give up, fit in the lineup/field/clubhouse/etc.)
Phil mentioned Mark Sweeney as a pinch-hitter, which might be nice, since he wouldn't cost a lot of talent, but in terms of an impact guy, the ship probably sailed.
If Griffey doesn't leave
If Griffey doesn't leave Cinnci, he will never see the post-season. I firmly believe that if he wants out of Cinnci, they will deal him.
This says it all: DM CUB
This says it all:
DM CUB DFAN: "I agree that Rich Hill and Marshall are too valuable to this team to trade, especially without Z signed for next year and the lack of any quality starters on the market."
I agree 100%
I dont buy this Griffey
I dont buy this Griffey rumor because why would only Levine be reporting this. The only way I think this could happen is if Griffey has asked out, but doesn't want the media to report anything because he does not want to deal with trade watch. Griffey has a good relationship with the press so maybe they respect his wishes. ESPN 1000 will have local updates starting sometime between 5:20-6 during a commerical break during Mike & Mike.
You don't call Jason
You don't call Jason Jennings a quality starter?
Old Man Gammons just said
Old Man Gammons just said Bobby Kielty to the Cubs possilby. Thoughts? I didn't know much about him but I looked him up and he is a switch hitter who hits lefties really well. .509 slugging? That's pretty cool.
Upon further investigation
Upon further investigation here is Kielty's career numbers vs. lefties:
676 AB (about 1 full season) 200 H 54 2b 30 hrs 109 RBIs 85 bb
Really good numbers.
You don't call Jason
You don't call Jason Jennings a quality starter?
You mean Jason Jennings and his 5.99 ERA? Who in his last four years has had ERA+ of 93, 99, 127, and 77 (100 is average)?
Yea... not very quailty.
sarcasm > dave
sarcasm > dave
Yea Neal... I thought so,
Yea Neal... I thought so, but I couldn't quite tell.
Wait...ok Chad. Hart vs.
Wait...ok Chad. Hart vs. Soriano
Soriano:.298/.338/.524, 18 HR 42 RBI, 15/19 SB, 71 R. 31 years old
Hart.280/.350/.510, 16 HR, 44 RBI, 16/20 SB, 54 R
Moved to Leadoff May 30th. 25 years old.
Hmm...ok. I'll take Hart, and put him in RF..
Over Soriano? No....but in RF, absolutely.
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I am right there with you closing in on 60.
I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.
There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.
Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.
I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.
Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.
I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.
I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.
This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.
btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.
I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.
Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.
Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath of the Chapman trade:
SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete
EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin
There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.
And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .
I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.
I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.
Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).
chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).
The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.
McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.
There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.
to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.
I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?
And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?
We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.
Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place.


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