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U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928
President Obama took on a topic yesterday that most Americans don't like to talk about much: inequality. There are a lot of ways to measure economic inequality (and we'll be discussing more on Fact Tank), but one basic approach is to look at how much income flows to groups at different steps on the economic ladder.
Emmanuel Saez, an economics professor at UC-Berkeley, has been doing just that for years. And according to his research, U.S. income inequality has been increasing steadily since the 1970s, and now has reached levels not seen since 1928. (The GIF file at the top of this post, created by Dorsey Shaw of Buzzfeed, compares growth in average income of the top 1% of Americans with everyone else.)
Using tax-return data from the IRS, Saez has built extensive income-distribution datasets going back 100 years. He defines "income" as pre-tax cash market income — wages and salaries; dividends, interest, rent and other returns on invested capital; business profits; and realized capital gains. He excludes Social Security payments, unemployment benefits and other government transfer payments, which are more substantial today than before the Great Depression.
In 1928, the top 1% of families received 23.9% of all pretax income, while the bottom 90% received 50.7%. But the Depression and World War II dramatically reshaped the nation's income distribution: By 1944 the top 1%'s share was down to 11.3%, while the bottom 90% were receiving 67.5%, levels that would remain more or less constant for the next three decades.
But starting in the mid- to late 1970s, the uppermost tier's income share began rising dramatically, while that of the bottom 90% started to fall. The top 1% took heavy hits from the dot-com crash and the Great Recession but recovered fairly quickly: Saez's preliminary estimates for 2012 (which will be updated next month) have that group receiving nearly 22.5% of all pretax income, while the bottom 90%'s share is below 50% for the first time ever (49.6%, to be precise).
A century ago, Saez notes that the highest earners derived much of their income from earnings on the accumulated wealth of past generations. By contrast, "[t]he evidence suggests that top incomes earners today are…"working rich," highly paid employees or new entrepreneurs who have not yet accumulated fortunes comparable to those accumulated during the Gilded Age."
Americans aren't unaware of these trends. More than half (61%) of Americans said the U.S. economic system favors the wealthy, while just 35% said it's fair to most people, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in March. A similar share (66%) of Americans said the gap between rich and poor had increased in the past five years; nearly three-quarters of respondents said the rich-poor gap was either a "very big" (47%) or "moderately big" (27%) problem.
As one might expect, low- and middle-income people were most likely to say the U.S. economic system favors the wealthy, but even 52% of high-income people agreed that it does. And while 54% of low-income people and 49% of middle-income people called the rich-poor gap a "very big" problem, only 36% of high-income people did so. A third of the high-income group said the rich-poor gap was either a small problem (19%) or not a problem at all (14%).
More than half (55%) of Republicans said the economic system is fair to most people, but majorities of Democrats (75%) and independents (63%) said it favors the wealthy. And 61% of Democrats and 50% of independents said the gap was a very big problem, versus only 28% of Republicans. Four-in-ten Republicans termed the gap either a small problem (22%) or not a problem at all (18%).
Topics: Income Inequality
Drew DeSilver is a Senior Writer at the Pew Research Center.
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We the hard working people of the u.sneed a raise in paynot even making it anymore
The golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
A good first step would be severely curtailing or eliminating altogether the corrupting influence of corporate political donations. A good second step would be to encourage and support political engagement by the people. Perhaps a third step would be to have a rational debate (not some shrill, knee jerk hysterical screaming match) on how much money one person needs and why there is a compulsion to accumulate more and more wealth than a person or group of people could ever find useful.
"…government of the people, by the people, for the people…"
Trevor, you make great points. I think you can find a fuller expression of your opinions in Huey Long, the governor of Louisiana in the 1930's. You should really look him up
I think Huey Long would have agreed with these ideas, as would the early Father Coughlin. So Piketty and Saez have a lot of company. For those who are concerned about income inequality, I think it would serve us well to go back and study the demagogues. We might also look at Juan Peron and FDR. All of these folks worked to reign in the wealthy. Some of them did it for the wealthy's own good, and some of them employed tactics related to the media that we should pay particular attention to. If we do this work now, maybe we can skip the example of Hitler.
Is it just a mater of time before we have a severe depression like we had in 1929 due to income inequality
Strange how Perry sees SS as a Ponzi scheme but few of these pols would say the same thing about Wall St., the TBTFs, where the true, guanagtrran Ponzi scheme is playing out right beneath their noses. And, of course, is padding many of their pockets. The common denominator is anything with a social value related to the common good is bad; anything increasing the wealth of the top 2% [laughingly referred to as the 'job creators'] is good. Few of the current crop of pols are willing to address the national tragedy that is mass unemployment. They flap their lips when convenient. But that's about it. At least they're realizing a phrase like jobless recovery' no longer plays well in Peoria. Nor are many pols willing to recognize [or admit] the link between the downhill slide of a consumer-driven economy when people are unemployed, fear unemployment or have had wages frozen or reversed and have taken on easy debt to make up the difference. The former consumers' are paying down debt [if they can], buying necessities and squirreling the rest beneath their mattresses. Massive unemployment means zip in demand. Also means reduced tax receipts, starving states, counties, cities, and municipalities. That's why we're already seeing pension plans damaged by reckless speculation thrown on the bonfire. Basic services will go, cuts will go to the bone until all that's left are public assests: highways and bridges, national parks, schools, etc thrown up for fire sale to the same bastards who got the ball rolling. This is called selling the family china. Then having to rent it back to eat lunch. At exorbinent fees. And Rule of Law? Only for those who can afford it.Serfs meet Barons.I think Hedges is [and has been from the start] onto something the trolls in D&R hats have taken the city. We simply cannot or will not admit it.
I keep seeing economic studies that correlate back to the mid '70s.
Somebody should study economic correlations to the removal of gold asset backing from the dollar in 1937 and then the subsequent elimination of the fixed dollar gold price in 1971.
I think you will find a world of useful information.
I must truly say that the income inequality in America has created a middle society that is struggling to even make ends meet. In America, yes we are the land of the free and the home of the brave but we are also becoming the home of the depraved. I want everybody to think about this denial of opportunities for all. I want everyone who reads this to read it and think about the future of this country and its continuing divide. One day in America the real people in this GREAT COUNTRY is going to get tired of the things that are going on and they will start looking for ways to destroy the Rich People and their families any way they can. How long do you think this will continue before people begin to say, since they don't care about me and my families and they get tired of struggling in their own country, they will begin to think about plans to do things that they would never have thought of. I truly must say we are the best country and the last country in the world for Humanity. If we loose our humanity in our own country, we are going to become just like the rest of the world that we see on television. We see people from South America to Europe to Ukraine to the Middle East and suddenly coming in our back doors people killing each other not caring about their neighbors loving money instead of loving your neighbor. Wanting to make profits while driving and smiling at the ones you call citizens struggle. We all better wake up because if we don't try and at least do better for the commonwealth of our county men and women in the United states of America, we are all in trouble. Remember Rome fell within. We are the GREATEST NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. There should not be a divide among us. We should not let our wealth divide us into a false sense of security. Because whether you are Rich or Poor we are AMERICANS FIRST, and if we loose this we will loose our way of life forever and it doesn't matter if you are a Rich Family- a Middle Class Family- or a Poor Family. If we do not care about each other because of a CLASS SOCIETY we are in deep trouble and BELIEVE ME THAT AMERICAS ENEMIES ARE WATCHING US VERY CLOSE AND I MEAN VERY,VERY CLOSE. A nation is only strong because of its people. If the people in the Nation become distraught and feel hopeless because of the GREAT DIVIDE, we will all fall. IT DOES NOT MATTER THEN IF YOU ARE RICH OR POOR , BLACK OR WHITE. OR BROWN OR RED. REMEMBER THE COLOR OF EVERY PERSONS BLOOD IS RED and if we start killing each other on a scale that has not been seen since the Civil War, our enemies will walk right in and kill us while we are killing each other. All of us better wake up and take a good look at each other and help each other and if we don't, we will become just like we see others on LIVE TELEVISION, but this time we will be looking at- US-US- THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I want everyone who reads this to think ABOUT YOUR FAMILIES FUTURES AND THE FUTURE OF US ALL. IF WE BECOME THE WALKING DEAD there is no more life and if there is no more life the fruit of life will never exits again.
James E. Williams 111
The essential problem with this sort of argument is a lack of understanding of how money works. I'm definitely a 99%er but that doesn't mean I feel like someone owes me something to be more "fair". I get the whole idea of attacking the "American Dream" as an idealistic view of the past, but realistically all the American Dream is, is the belief that given enough hard work and sacrifice it is possible to improve oneself and ones means. As we see more and more welfare type programs established while simultaneously having a media frenzy surrounding the concept of redistribution of wealth, we are essentially brainwashing the 99% into believing that
A) the American Dream is impossible and therefore you should give up on trying to improve yourself
B) Because the American Dream is impossible people cannot earn or work towards improvement of oneself, but are in fact automatically entitled to an ever increasing level of comfort and means
C) If anyone is more successful at improving themselves than you, or has more wealth than you, their success is directly correlated to you having less than them, and somehow this prevents you from becoming successful
This is kind of hinging on a concept that the only way to be successful is to stomp on a baby, club a seal, and then suck blood from people who are less successful you. The good news is when we look at our actual economic system, money doesn't function as a limited supply where one person's possession of wealth can have any realistic bearing on another person's lack. Redistribution of wealth only really makes sense if we look at money as though it functioned as a limited supply/high demand commodity, and that perspective of money doesn't work considering A) the rate at which we print money, B) the amount our society functions on theoretical credit that never is or needs to be backed up in hard cash.
The point is if I were to get pissed as a 1%-er or a 10%-er or anyone who was more successful than me for that matter, believing that their wealth secures my relative poverty (which mind you in a global perspective still put almost every American in the top 1% both looking a people today and people in the history of the world when we look at standards of living), I'm being short sited and refusing to try to improve my situation. Think of money (considering the existence of unfunded liability and credit) as an essentially infinite ocean. People working towards improving themselves are taking buckets, tubs, and truckloads of water from the ocean. Re-distributive policy and philosophy would tell you, you're incapable of accomplishing anything, you can't try to get a bucket and start getting wealth for yourself, so you should instead sit on the beach and ask for people who are carrying buckets to give some of their buckets to you as they pass. It then goes on to tell you that if they don't give you the bucket, someone should come and forcibly take some of their buckets and give them to you. (Credit to Glen Beck on the Ocean Metaphor)
Now I'm not saying it's bad to help people or give money away. In fact that's a great thing to do, but I am saying you shouldn't let anyone convince you that you aren't capable of accomplishing anything on your own and therefore need someone to do it for you. When we accept that, we are letting our government and our society treat us as though we are too stupid or too childish to succeed in life.
Now to what I'm really trying to say…Wake up!!! You are a much more amazing person than you realize if you are a non-disabled person relying on welfare!! I believe in you and your ability to accomplish amazing things that will make your life better and help to improve the lives of people around you who rely on you (family, friends, community). You can do it and you can become successful just by striving to achieve your best, whatever that level comes out to. Don't let yourself be duped into a mindset of ineptitude and entitlement, and you will accomplish great things!
If you are a 99%er and this was somehow offensive to you I apologize, I'm actually trying to encourage you. There was a time when I'd just argue and end up hating someone, and I've realized that it's not worth it for me to end up feeling bitter.
Let's look at a bit of history instead of opinion which of course I respect, but people watch tv instead of investigating facts.
1. Before through depression the American economy crashed every few years.
2.Safeguards were set in place during the depression so that it would never happen again.
3. In the 70s these safeguards have been removed one by one.
4. First was the s&l we had bale them out. Then the wonderful bush era. Not only did he deregulate the banking system, We let him slide in a tax decrease to the wealthiest Americans who in turn very wisely reinvested this monies to create jobs, only problem was they invested it in other courntries. ( U think he would have known better since he was a manager in charge of a s&l, one of which got bail out money )
5. Then came thr banking baleout. When asked Greenspan said he didn't see it coming, whatever. With a real estate market so hi I saw houses that u would think would be worth 75,000 were selling at 110,000. I was ready to buy a house at that time, but a dear friend, and appraiser told me to wait. He told me Fanniemay and freddiemac were screwing it al up, and it wasn't going to sustain itself. (So my dear friend jack who is now passed away was smarter than most of the economist, nope they were lying to us.) except for some that were ringing the alarm bell trying to wake people up.
6. I'm seeing more and more people sink into poverty, and a lot of these people on food stamps, are working everyday, but can't afford to feed their kids.
7. It a well understood fact that the middle class is gone. WHY. Are they working well paid jobs, and keeping their money in jars buried in their yards. NO. They have no money, because they no longer have a voice to speak on their behalf. It's called a union. I am not a big fan of unions. I delt with them with conserns to my business; they are difficult; but without them who is in charge of telling us the value of our work.
In conclusion. I deeply respect your opinion, and agree with u. Redistribution of wealth is crazy, but the rules by which we live by need to be changed so that we can have a chance to prosper. Here are some things that I think might help.
If we want to see people have a zest for life, to work hard and play in the yard with their kids, to feel like they live in a society that is pulling for them, then are some things that are critical to achieve this.
1. We need to be encouraged to vote, instead of making it more difficult.
2. We need to demand to be informed from our media of factual information instead of opinion journalism. And if u want to share your opinion, show people the facts as to why u have reached the opinion that u are wishing to express.
3. Remove constraints that seem to weigh people down, like haveing a health care system in place that helps instead of hinders them. The affordable Care Act though not perfect is a great start. I have just acquired health care for the first time in 25 years. I am self employed. We will improve it as we go along, but anyone would agree that someone like myself should have the same opportunity to purchase care.
4. Encourage people like yourself to share and people like myself to be ready to listen, I believe that that all of us want to see our neighbor, healthily and happy if they are willing to work for it. But they to be able to have enough from their work to do that.
Thank u for listening. Greg
Most of us are trying to do the best we can to provide for our families: saving for homes,exposing our hard earned capital to risk to raise and educate our children and also save for retirement. Those that in fact do risk there hard earned capital for those purposes are entitled to share in the rewards of a growing economy. In 1993, Congress reformed corporate tax law allowing corporations to deduct what they referred to as"performance based" compensation. In other words, they allowed corporations to give away to corporate executives ,without risk to those executives,tremendous sums of corporate capital in the form of stock options. Since those executives hadn't exposed their own hard earned capital to market risk,they could and did expose their corporations to risk that was not beneficial to the long term health to the corporation or the economy as a whole. Instead,that form of no risk stock option compensation incentivized many executives to take tremendous risk with corporate capital in an attempt to drive the value of their stock options up and allow them to cash out. These compensation schemes led to the Enron's,the Worldcom's,the Tech Bust when Wall Street wrote glowing research pieces on corporate entities that were nothing but hot air…in order to win that company's investment banking business and most recently resulted in this country's greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression . What it also resulted in was executive compensation ballooning from 40/1 X the average worker to 450/1 …ratios this country has not witnessed since the Great Depression . As we have found out once again after tremendous economic pain….that the 100's of billions ,if not more, us corporations spent on these stock option compensation schemes (not to mention the severance packages and golden parachutes)…where the recipients have no "skin in the game",would have better been spent on R&D or possibly hiring real people to service a corporations existing clients.(been on hold in some phone loop waiting for service lately). Going back to the ballooning ratio for a moment. Does the fact that executive compensation has gone from 40/1-450/1 X the average worker suggest that the GDP is 10x greater….sure doesn't feel like it. At this time in economic history the US has so much going for it…cheap energy prices,labor prices that are more competive globally, an inexpensive US Dollar. When we determine that there is better way to deploy corporate capital than these compensation giveaways we will be unstoppable. Give us a slow steady economy that improves the well being of all participants fairly.
Yes, A, B, and C are correct.
can you give me a few sourcess. I like your comment but im trying to write a 20 page paper on education and some of this informaion factors in. I was wondering if you could help me out by providing me with where you get your info.
This is for my daughter-in-law who wants 2 make me seem uninformed!!
your AMERICAN DREAM !!! AS WE LOOK AT THE RISING COST of living verse hourly wage , billions of tax breaks given to corporations that squander our tax dollars , steal trillions and give it to their CEOs in bonuses !!!! yet congress , the house , mr president can't come up with a plan to raise the minimum wage !!.yet they say a trickle down theory ??? as they outsource American jobs overseas ???? the staggering rise of homelessness, poverty , children going hungry in the richest country in the world ??? in debt to a communist country ???? didn't we fight against communism ???? now it a new day war game terrorism ??? where ??right here at home !!called inequality by the eccentric ethnocentric rich and wealthy aristocrats an criminal politicians in Washington !!! time for change ??? you tell me
Here are my priorities for the next phase of Open Government. There is already some momentum forward, but still plenty of work to do. Wiki-bills are critical. More here: whohub.com/meganesque/log
that .gif could not be more misleading. The .gif quickly starts so you can't see the high disparity in 1928 and then has a nice long pause on the current disparity. designing a .gif like that is editorializing.
The headline states disparity has never been higher since 1928, exactly how is the gift trying to misrepresent anything?
One thing that doesn't seem to be a part of the equation here is Real Estate. Up until the 1970's, a person could homestead land for a modest fee, and at the end of 7 years, they could claim the land. To do that, they had to prove themselves and the land. Often, a family would lay claim to the land, they built log homes or even log and mud huts, to live in. Today's zoning laws would not allow that.
Today, the average home "owner" is tied into working 30 years to purchase land and build a home, or buy an existing home. Of course, any downturn in the economy would cause them to lose that home if their source of income were interrupted. (layoff, plant closing, or even the economic crisis of 2008, if they were heavily invested)
Maybe because
1. Since 1928, the population of top tier (1 ~ 5%) people of every field isn't changing/rising too much — and they're cream of the crop, and all business would pay whatever they demand to have them.
2. Vast productivity increase thus business has huge revenue (and profit) to pay these top tiers
3. Due to globalization, the rest (95%)'s skills just aren't so special anymore and whoever you think works hard here in the US there are 10x people elsewhere in the world work 10x harder and are happy to be paid 10x less. Call this laziness or whatever you want, it is the reality.
Putting these 3 togethers, it's inevitable! Laws of Thermodynamics in economy.
Solution? Isolationism + Social wealth redistribution = short term solution but would lead to faster long term decline. Other than that, I don't see much way out until:
1. the thermodynamics of the whole world economy comes to an equilibrium OR
2. some major disruption in this thermodynamics system, usually wars…
In all these comments, there is so much opinion stated as fact. In response to your premise that there are people elsewhere who would work 10 times harder than an American, my mother would say "name three." Why can't we all just admit the economic balance has skewed radically and taht the priority should be to guarantee that everyone is contributing fairly, tax wise, to support the system that generates so much wealth for so few?
I'm jealous because I'm not rich and angry because I am too lazy to do anything about it.
So you're suggesting that 99% of the people of the country are lazy? You don't believe in wealth incumbency in spite of the fact, that all the facts point to it? What you don't realize, is if the Koch brothers hadn't inherited their father's money they probably wouldn't even make good Taco Bell managers. What makes a Wall Street guy who finds a loophole to skim off $1 billion a year and pocket it, not lazy? Why is someone who was raised in a community they couldn't afford a higher education but now works 60 hours a week to raise a family lazy?
I think what we have in this country, is a lot of people that are too lazy to think.
SO your family tree is stuck? Change it. The government can't fix all of your problems. Nothing about life is fair, but saying that because of the environment that you grew up in is stacked against you, there is no hope. Change your family tree. My family emigrated to this country post WWI. There was not a hand out waiting for them when they got here. And life was tough for them and for my grandparents. They didn't go to college. They didn't get hand outs. In fact they were too proud for any of that. So my grandparents grew up in that environment. They learned that life is not fair, to work hard and get the job done. Now two generations ahead of that my grandparents life lessons have be handed down and the family business is thriving. So am I suppose to feel bad that this is the case? I think of all the life lessons I learned from them and how to work hard and to take care of your own business. The government in all of it's glory teaches exactly the opposite to people. Everyone is "entitled" whether they want to dig their way out of the hole because its not fair. We have become a nation that penalizes a person for success. So perhaps we are too lazy to think. Let the government take care of that too… Oh and the government is such a streamlined model of efficiency we should roll over and let them do what they have done for the last 30 years…
People aren't looking for a hand out, they just need to keep bit more for their hard work
How would this graph change if the distribution was the same as 1980; how bout taking it all and redistributing it?
This is very redundant, one report after another illustrates the same results – the wealthy are getting wealthier. Stop wasting your money and time to repeat this message over and over again. Why not research something a little more challenging such as: Who are the top 1%? Are they primarily Republicans or are they Democrats? Give us a profile of who they are? Be sure to identify how little or nothing they pay in taxes too!
This will help illuminate the demographics of the 50% who say that income inequality is of" little importance" and of course it is! When you have it, you want to make sure you keep it and the hell with all those little people – the 99%. If you reported this information, then Americans will know which political party has the wealthiest members (that might help them decide who to vote for). But be sure to include our politicians who daily rape the public of a living wage, health care, pensions, and anything else they can get – because they bow to the wealthy who fund their campaigns.
Pew – you are asking old questions and already answered questions over and over again. You are wasting my time and the public's time by reiterating the same old data that has already established a two class system for America – the rich and the poor, the owners and the slaves. Why not do some surveys and research on the impact of income inequality on the destabilization of countries/governments – resulting in Revolutions. Then simply extrapolate the data and run some of the "new magic" algorithms to project the beginning of American Revolution II. That would be some exciting stuff – perhaps you would get a Pulitzer for quality reporting. Try producing some meaningful data Pew – or are you cowards?
Thank u. Yep. U be correct yep yep
Well, now….we know from history what happened the year after 1928….
The big reason, in fact, nearly the whole reason, that we have income and wealth inequality now are those Fascist, Reverse Robin Hood and Upward Wealth Redistribution policies known as the Bush 43 tax cuts. Yes, while the "Fiscal Cliff" deal raised the tax rates of the wealthy, it left alone the thousands of deductions, exemptions and loopholes the wealthy and big corporations use to pay low (or no) taxes. It also left alone the corporate welfare and tax rates, as well. I had 14 confidential sources (all of whom freaked out after the Edward Snowden situation came to light and haven't talked to me since) and eight of them were focused on financial/tax issues….
All of them told me what the TRUE COST of the Bush 43 tax policies is…they gave different amounts from 2001 through 2012 and estimated what those amounts would be by the end of this calendar year. The numbers were/are staggering…
The lowest number given for the cost of those policies was $42 TRILLION…that's not a mistype…TRILLION…the highest amount I was told was $48 TRILLION. And, that was for the period ending calendar year 2012….I derived an average from the eight different figures and came up with $44 TRILLION through last year and $45.5 TRILLION by the end of this year.
While I believe that the true numbers are more than half of that ($27-$30 TRILLION), the mere fact that the amount well exceeds our current national debt ($17 trillion) tells you that there's a huge disparity in income and wealth. I call this type of tax code "Upside Down", because, the wealthy and big corporations pay a lower effective rate (when they pay anything at all) than the middle class and small businesses. Our tax code needs to be Progressive, not Upside Down…
If Congress really wants to do something about the income and wealth inequality, they need do just one thing: repeal all of the remaining tax rates, exemptions, loopholes and deductions for the wealthy and big corporations from the Bush 43 tax policies. If that is done, the US Treasury will realize $1.5 trillion more in tax revenue annually, which would wipe out the annual deficit and payments to reduce the national debt can begin. However, with the Republican Party in control of the US House and having enough seats in the US Senate to obstruct bills, the chances of this happening are slim and none…(in Southern accent: "and Slim ain't doin' too good in the horsepistol")….
I take issue with the fact that a century ago, highest income earners derived income from accumulated investments of past generations. Today the top income earners are the working rich. I believe that wealth is still in the hands of the same people/groups, and that the accumulated wealth of these individuals has grown exponentially in the last 25 to 50 years.Perhaps this wealth has been shifted to tax havens. and as a result not reported on tax returns, skewing the data; and as a result understating the overall income gap?
No doubt.
The rockefeller family still controls trillions of dollars. Why arent they on the news? Ever? Or the bush regime for that matter; changing policies to bank on a collapsing middle class terrified of terrorism. Makes me seeth
Where are the sources for thjis article besides Saez and Pew?
""By 1944 the top 1%'s share was down to 11.3%, while the bottom 90% were receiving 67.5%, levels that would remain more or less constant for the next three decades.
But starting in the mid- to late 1970s, the uppermost tier's income share began rising dramatically, while that of the bottom 90% started to fall."""
Let's look at the paradigm shift. throughout the first half of the 20th century most businesses were family owned, the local grocer, hardware, lumber, dry goods, clothing stores, etc. E.G look at Wal-mart at this time. Let's also look at the number of people attending college, and the mantra "One needs to go to college to get a good job" (used to be "You should go to college, so you don't have to work as hard as I did" parents said to their children)
So, who is left to take over the family business? Who is willing to take over the family business? Also, let's factor in economic conditions. during the 70's their were a great many adverse economic factors, high interest rates, high inflation, and a great many new government regulations. How many 'small' businesses could handle all that? not many. It was the perfect storm. The little guys either went out of business (the owner retired and no one took over), sold out, or were pushed out by the competition.
What many fail to understand is that, it was the store owners, the family business that primarily made up the middle class.
After World War II 35% of the jobs were union, those jobs put people in the middle class. We're down to around 10%, I believe our union now. If business gets its way it will eliminate all unions then there will be nobody speaking for the working class of this nation, zero.
In recent years I have often thought that many were re-defining the good life out of regard for the environment and future generations. Now it seems likely more will have to do it out of necessity and day to day survival.
What is the impact on your results of Incomes excluding government transfers? What is the logic of doing so?
I completely agree with President Obama. This is a national outrage. We all ought to be holding someone accountable for how the wealthiest top 10% in this country became so incredibly rich these past five years while the bottom 90% either lost ground or simply stagnated.
BTW: Does anyone know who was the President of the United States during this period? The answer seems to be a mystery.
I enjoyed this set of opinions, based on opinion poll data. People who are paid at the minimum wage level struggle to keep their heads above water….could include data about how many families have children who receive free or reduced price breakfasts and lunches at school.
Labor economists have concluded that undocumented workers have lowered the wages of U.S. adults without a high-school diploma — 25 million of them — by anywhere between 0.4 to 7.4 percent.
The impact on everyone else, though, is surprisingly positive. Giovanni Peri, an economist at the University of California, Davis, has written a series of influential papers comparing the labor markets in states with high immigration levels to those with low ones. He concluded that undocumented workers do not compete with skilled laborers — instead, they complement them. From 1990 to 2007, undocumented workers increased legal workers' pay in complementary jobs by up to 10 percent.
Look how many restaurants operate. Without undocumented labor performing routine tasks, meals, which factor labor costs into the price, would be more expensive. There would also be fewer jobs for waiters and chefs.
Also, Immigrants spend most of the money they make. Some is sent back to their family but most is spent here for lodging, food, clothing and taxes. Nearly all economists, of all political persuasions, agree that immigrants — those here legally or not — benefit the overall economy. "That is not controversial," Heidi Shierholz, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, says. She also says that "there is a consensus that, on average, the incomes of families in this country are increased by a small, but clearly positive amount, because of immigration."
So, let me get this straight, increasing the labor supply doesn't reduce wages, increasing the housing demand doesn't increase rents, increasing demand on electricity, water doesn't increase prices, roads don't become clogged, public transportation not strained, it doesn't cut wages and increase expenses for the majority. As we say in my country pull the other one, it's got bells on it, if you can't understand that, I'm saying it's a load of rubbish, how can someone from a capitalist country, not understand the iron rules, of supply and demand.
You're assuming the person you're replying to gives a dang about logic, or other people.
That's not the Republican way.
Massive Illegal alien invasion?
I guess you forgot about the 2007/2008 crash followed by the Great Recession?
Not only did American citizens loose their jobs but so did the undocumented citizens to the point where today immigration has "reversed" and more are leaving than coming in.
"He excludes Social Security payments, unemployment benefits and other government transfer payments, which are more substantial today than before the Great Depression." If that is the reason he excludes them, then I challenge his methodology because those are substantial sources of income for most of the bottom quintile income group and the top 1% have seen their tax rates plummet over the years. I would like to see two sets of data, the one reported here and another that includes the effect of government by including transfer payments and income net of taxes.
NotarySojack-great point.
How are Social Security payments different from IRA and and other pension plan withdrawals?
One is private, the other is publicly managed by the govt.
Income Mobility – is not included. This article implies that the persons in each income category remain the same. It supports the socialist agenda that the system is rigged and the lower income group are helpless. If fact some of the persons in each category can and do move up or down over time. Increased age and experience contribute to improved income. Later, age in retirement reduce income statistics. Education levels contribute significantly to income differences – as it should. Parenthood, especially single parenthood, before the age of 20 limit income potential and income mobility. Check the data and analyses.
You put down the article, which simply presents facts (Pew could be seen as criticizing the Obama Administration in other articles). And I might agree that those who get tips have less need, but the system is rigged by those who control who gets what. Walmart family members make billions while their employees get half of what Costco employees earn.
Is it socialist to want a minimum floor? To have public education? To have medicare? Social Security? Unemployment insurance?
Income mobility is a positive and an incentive, but it seems abusive to expect a large part of the population at any age to survive at $16K a year — if they are able to get a full-time job. Just because some can go to college, should we keep a single mother who can't afford child care and transportation to stay in her place (and her kids lack basic necessities), contending they got what they deserved when the man deserted her? The Northwest has a $9 average minimum wage and we are glad.
it is, when other people are paying for it!!! the soviets did, cubans and venezuelans are doing that now!!! but your still here??? canada has universal healthcare, but they still come here for care!!! but with taxing all of the medical industries, you won't see much more improvements in the medical field, and thats bad!!!
Please don't say that the Canadian health system is inferior to ours because some of them come here for medical treatment. That argument will get you nowhere.
I guess you forget amout the "Medical Tourism" industry in the US?
Millions of Americans with no insurance or with "inadequate" insurance travel to dozens of foreign countries for their medical treatment which includes a "free" vacation and they save thousands of dollars to boot.
Yes, we do have the BEST medical treatments but we also have limited access to it by our own citizens.
the canadian doctor will see you at 9am on march 10 2014!!! sure people go to mexico and other places, for cheap and inferior treatment!!! thats like buying a chevy and expecting a mercedes!!! please tell me what will happen when all those that get free or discounted ins, and still go to the er's!!! whats the difference of paying their er visits, or paying for their insurance??? and don't forget the canadian doctors who practice here, because they ran away from universal canadian care!!! canadian dogs get to see their doctors faster!!!
You are so wrong about Canada's Health System as well as so many other things.
I am from Australia.
Like Canada, we have universal health coverage. It costs our Government MUCH less than the U.S Government pays for health care/costs. You should read a recent Nwe York Times 5 part series on America's Health Care System.IT IS BROKEN,IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE,IT DOES NOT COVER 40 MILLION CITIZENS…
Your minimum wages are 3rd World wages. 50% of American workers earn LESS than $25,000 P.A. YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED,YOU ARE GETTING POORER…
In Australia, the minimum wage for a 15 year old is $13 and $19 for an Adult.
BTW, Australia ranks #1 as the country with the best quality of Life in the latest OECD Country report, the same rank as the previous year.
Last year Australians were ranked the richest people in the World as our wealth is spread much more equally than in the U.S (U.S ranks about 160 for wealth equality (behind IRAN) Australia ranks around 15.
Your country is being exploited by a wealthy Elite and people like you fall for the crap that they feed you all to readily.
If you don't, it will just get worse for most of you.
@slk, It's simply false what you assert about the Canadian health care system. Canadians love their health care and wouldn't trade it for the world for the American system which they view as insane, including Canadian conservatives. Around the same time Nixon was sending the U.S. off on the health care journey that has resulted in the debacle of medical practice that it is today, Canadians were starting off on the right foot, and the statistics bear all – that they have far outpaced us on health care since, while we have been steadily declining. BTW, I had a Canadian friend who was injured in the U.S. and we went to the hospital together. Our system is so bad, and theirs is so effective, the U.S. doctors were advising him to fly back immediately even though the health risks incurred in doing so were so great, that it might had amounted to medical malpractice in so advising. But the bottom line was, to allow a person to continue to seek medical service in the U.S. – and when they could do so in Canada – was what amounted to malpractice. It's not out of stupidity or ignorance that the majority of the medical profession, the majority of the nursing profession, and the majority of the American wants single payer – an improved Medicare expanded to the whole country. It is not the job of the taxpayer or the government to prop up a useless industry that literally causes the deaths of 45,000 Americans every year.
how can you better yourself, when all millions do, is cash government assistance checks!!! or spend 10 years at mcdonalds, and demand 15 an hour for flipping burgers!!! just think, growing up, and wanting to get a career at flipping burgers!!!
If your black and never graduated from high school and the only employer that will higher you in today's market is McDonald's, then why shouldn't an honest, hardworking person work an honest 40 hours a week and get payed enough to pay for rent, food, transportation, insurance and clothing to feed his family… without.. asking taxpayers to subsidize his employer's payroll?
Like it or not, and label as you wish, but the truth remains, that the system is, indeed, rigged. Tens of millions of Americans work in the fast food industry alone, and tens of millions more just in a place like Walmart for minimum wage and not even at full time. Meanwhile, college has become a way for the government to continue to sweep the issue under the rug by telling people that they should go back to college and "improve themselves and their opportunities," when the figures show that college graduates are overwhelmingly not getting jobs that require degrees while graduating with debt that far exceeds their abilities to pay it back. So again, it is simply not true what you assert. The opportunities you describe do not exist for this amount of persons presenting toiling in low wage, dead-end jobs. You sound very out-of-touch with the economic and day-to-day realities of people struggling to get by on very little.
Mr. Sojack…
Everything you mention is true… however.. it is all occuring in the "99.9" percent of the population… which, doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell to enter the "0.1" percent catagory… wake up dude.
if all you do is wait for government assistance, how do you get better??? wake up dude!!!
If this is how you feel, then why aren't you demanding that companies like Walmart pay their workers a liveable wage instead of passing the buck on to the taxpayer, while encouraging those workers to seek food stamps and Medicaid rather than pay them sufficiently or provide the appropriate benefits. The same case exists in places like McDonalds where they are even paying people to tell employees how to go sign up for social service benefits instead of simply paying them sufficient money and providing health care benefits. I described the statistical reality of just how many people work in these industries and where college graduates are presently headed, along with their debts. I think for posters like yourself, you are either incredibly dumb or you are profiting yourself from the system as it exists, and have a monetary interest in putting others down.
Senator Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.
"Harvard professor Dr. George Borjas found that high levels of immigration between 1980 and 2000 caused the wages of lower-skilled American workers to drop nearly 8 percent. He also found current immigration levels have resulted in a $402 billion annual wage loss for workers but a $437 billion increase in profits for business owners.
Alabama usually trails the country in education, economic growth and willingness to help the poor. Too bad. Federal civil rights legislation forced the Deep South to acknowledge the rights of the have nots. Sometimes the majority knows what the entrenched do not.
I'm sure that from 2000 to 2010 (the lost decade) "outsourcing" led to the wage stagnation of middle class wages (both technical and manufacturing).
Yes Dr David Suzuki, also sees developed world high immigration, as a con, on their own population and developing world citizens, it ensures low wages, high rent homelessness, high imprisonment.
Here is an simple explanation of Saez's graph….
As long as the income enjoyed by "The Rich" is not deducted from the "Lower Income" people's pay check; it makes ZERO difference to the people in the lower strata of income (ME) how much money "The Rich" have; period. The ONLY way "money" cannot / WILL NOT help "the economy" is; IF the cash is stashed in a BOX.
Encourage "The Rich" to buy luxury; expensive houses, yachts, baubles, whatever, and show off their wealth! They are creating and supporting more "good / skilled jobs" than the politicians ever could; in particular, by spending your taxes to buy votes.
So the obvious unasked and unanswered critical question is "what changed in the mid to late 1970's that accounts for this clear divergence?" Finish the story!
Agree with the overall facts but the chart is misleading to the extreme. Hard to believe that 99% of the working population has had no income gain since 1928. Also, the scale makes it look like the 99% make nearly $0.00 dollars!
In addition, the statistics are comparing a mostly rural agrarian based workforce to what is currently an extremely urban, almost no actual family farmers left in America, salaried workforce. Not to mention an extremely low tax era before Social Security or any entitlements.
Definitely brings to mind Mark Twains dim view on statistics being.
The Marginal Tax rate went well over 90% in the 50's..
And, the reason the 99% of the population had such a small growth rate is because Saeze's numbers where inflation adjusted… here is a simple explanation …
As long as an increase in income enjoyed by "the rich" is not deducted from the "lower income" people's pay check; WHAT difference does it make how much any "billionaire" makes to anybody in any lower strata of income? ME; for instance. THE only way that (anybody's) money WILL NOT help "the economy" is; IF they put the cash in a box and leave it there.
I think that is far more important a statement than most will note. Where is it shown what effect others income has upon me? If an affluent person makes more, does that have adverse effect upon my ability to obtain what I need?
I would like to see a second set of numbers: an analysis of disposable income, i.e., income after all taxes (federal, State, local, sales, etc.) and income including all government and business (e.g., utilities) transfer payments.
Good suggestion!
I'm an old staunch Republican, but believe that the favorable capital gains tax must be adjusted upward to eventually equal the sweat taxes paid by working Americans. At the same time lower corporate income tax rates, thus drawing investment capital back to our shores.
Years ago, I thought I was Republican, voted for Reagan, believed in "trickle down". Now I hear ideas of keeping capital gains and corporate taxes low while also cutting entitlements such as Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and food stamp programs. How does lowering income taxes on corporations, who already manage very well to lower their taxes through loopholes, help when the money then goes to those at the top of the corporation while wages and benefits continue to stagnate for the general workers? Why not close loopholes, let them take more reasonable wages and dividend income and use the plenty left over for capital and for better wages for those below? I'm not falling for the "investment capital" ploy like I did "trickle down" when the problem was then and is now greed at the top. That is what this article is showing. It effects all of us because there isn't enough money available for our government to run. Besides stagnant wages, our country is falling apart through lack of maintenance. Many can't afford college or end up with huge debt to get a degree. In order to be fair, Republican economic ideas depend on the wealthy playing fair. Since that doesn't happen, (several economic scandals come to mind) the taxes for the wealthiest should be increased back to the way it was pre-Reagan and corporate taxes should go up. Look at the statistics in this article!
"who already manage very well to lower their taxes through loopholes"
I think our rate is still a bit above average even when that's considered. Also I wonder if the loophole issues are as true for corporations that make over $335,000, but less than $10,000,000.
Interesting piece. Is there a particular reason for stopping at 2007? Curious what it looks like for the following years.
Also, what do you think caused the dip around 2002? That's about the time the 911 attacks occurred and would that be due to the dip in the stock market by any chance?
Thanks for any comments you may have,
There was a recession in 2002 only slightly related to 9-11.


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After a week of incessant rains in Australia's tropical north, the gods were shining down on Cairns yesterday, and took good care of all 2XU athletes as well! Studded with Pros including Macca, Bell and White, the Ironman was never going to offer an easy day in the office for any competitor, but a 2XU trio of David Dellow (TeamTBB), IM NZ guru Cam Brown and Carrie Lester (TeamTBB) performed superbly with Men's first, Men's second and Women's first respective placings.
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Looking not so comfortable towards the end of the bike, Dellow took his time to work the run. Meanwhile, veteran Brown took the early charge and cut out a one-minute lead with Bell by his side.
"Ironman is just such a tough day, you can lose minutes in the last couple of kilometres. I definitely wasn't celebrating until I well and truly almost had the race done with," said Dellow.
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Felix Pie
A slice of Baltimore Pie
It's a sad day in the Cub Fan Nation as yet another former top prospect has burned out and been dealt. This time, it's Felix Pie, who has been traded to the Orioles for a couple of pitchers, one of whom whose name came up in the Jake Peavy trades.
With apologies to loyal Goat Reader feet69, losing Pie is not a big deal. Jim Hendry has built a very, very complete team with some very very talented, versatile players while loading up unecessarily in certain positions - center field being one of them.
Even without Departin' Felix Pie, the Cubs outfield is cluster-effed. You've got the 3 starters in The Fonz, Kosuke, and Ragin' Milton Bradley, and competing for the 2 given backup spots are shoe-in Reed Johnson, and then Micah Hoffpauir, Ambivalent Taguchi, and Royal Joey Gathright.
But I have to say that unless Felix Pie hits the game-winning homerun for the Orioles in the Baltimore-Chicago World Championship, I don't see how this one is going to bite us in the bum. He's 50-50 at best in becoming a major leaguer, and the Cubs have some talent already in the outfield - in fact, the Cubs outfield is running a No Vacancy sign for the next 3 years.
Pie to Baltimore
In the least surprising move of the year, Felix Pie has been traded to Baltimore for lefty pitcher Garrett Olson. As I'm sure everyone knows, Pie was out of options and out of favor and thus had to be out of Chicago. Coming back in return is Garrett Olson, he of the 6.87 ERA in 33 starts as well as right handed minor league pitcher Henry Williamson.
Holy crap. Baltimore let him get 33 starts with a 6.87 ERA? Nice team Baltimore's got going over there.
Anyway, this trade makes a fair amount of sense. The Cubs had a glut of outfielders and a derth of young lefties and Pie was the odd man out. Olson is supposed to have a fair amount of potential, although the numbers are hardly overwhelming (83 strikeouts and 62 walks in 133 innings pitched). Olson did, however, exhibit much better control in the minors and solid strikeout numbers (almost a strikeout an inning), posting an almost 3:1 K:BB ration over his minor league career. Basically, this is a trade of two players with good minor league numbers who fizzled in the majors.
Williamson looks to have the kind of potential the Cubs love, having put up K/9 numbers of 10.0, 13.5, and 11.4 in his three stints over two minor league levels. Williamson has also shown excellent control. In fact, the only downside to his numbers is that he's old for A ball as he will be 24 this year.
I have no idea what kind of stuff Olson has, so please feel free to chime in in the comments. In general, this seems like a good haul for Pie given the position in which the Cubs have put themselves.
No holes; just several low spots and too many 25th men
I positive Chris DeLuca's article today in the Sun-Times, because like myself, he looks at the 2008 Cubs, and he's looking at what we have right here, in the now, and The Now is a bit lacking. He then focuses on two areas that he more or less categorizes as "holes". One is the Lack of Five Proven Starters, which natually he opines would be filled quite nicely by Jake Peavy. And the other? That would be the Lack of A True Leadoff Man, whereupon he re-opens the Oldest Story Ever Told, the Brian Roberts trade. He even goes as far as tossing Chone Figgins into the mix here. I found it more interesting than anything else I've read lately, but whether it be due to the lack of available space, or the need to simplify, but there are factors in play that he either missed or was not able to cover in his article.
On paper at least, what we have now is not quite as good as what we saw when the Cubs were last on the teevee. Keeping Dempster was a huge thing, sure. But DeLuca's title, paraphrased, is "Additions do not add up to Subtractions". And in my mind, DeRosa + Edmonds + Blanco + Howry + Marquis + Wood is more than Bradley + Miles + Gathright + Luis Vizciano + three mid-level Indians prospects. And no, bringing in Paul Bako is not going to tip the scales in our favor.
Where I veer away from DeLuca today is that I don't really see any big, car-swallowing potholes on the roster. Addressing the two he brought up, I might phrase it this way: We don't lack a fifth starter, we have Sean Marshall, he has experience in the role; and We don't lack a leadoff man, we have Alfonso Soriano, he has experience in the role. Therefore, we have no gaping, dripping chasms that we're gonna fall in.
But see what I did there? I applied Cubness to the argument!! Sure, Soriano HAS hit leadoff, but he ain't so good at it! And sure, Marshall HAS started, but only one full season's worth, and while his overall record compares with what we lost with Marquis, it certainly doesn't represent an upgrade.
And let's go further! Milton Bradley HAS played right field. Aaron Miles HAS played second base. Mike Fontenot HAS played second base. (Ryan Theriot HAS played shortstop, too, but I'm not including him as part of this argument today. There are plenty who can and will). Ryan Dempster and Carlos Zambrano HAVE, at various times, served as the "Ace" of the rotation.
More? Sure. Carlos Marmol HAS closed games. Luis Vizcaino HAS been an effective setup man. Derrek Lee HAS served as the Clubhouse Leader, and he HAS also hit in the 3 hole.
I can go on and on, but all of the above aren't exactly "holes" in the true sense of the word (ie. Jacque Jones is our right fielder), but I suggest they represent "low spots", like when Streets and Sanitation drop some tar into a pothole, tamp it down, and three days later it starts to sink again. You're not going to rip your fender in two when you hit them, but you have to slow down, they will jar your spine, and you might get home safe, but you ain't winnin' no races that way.
THEN, then, there's another problem - we have several guys who are young, cheap, and might have value to someone, but have not proven anything with us. I'm sure Hendry knows who these people are, and perhaps you do too, but I will maintain over and over again that it is simply NOT healthy and useful to keep a BUNCH of AAAA players like Cedeno, Marshall, Hart, Guzman, Hofpauir, Pie, Gathright, Koyie Hill, Rich Hill, Wuertz and Cotts around. Not to mention the three prospects that we just haaaad to trade DeRosa for, plus all the arms Hendry's drafted the past ten years.
I understand the need for depth; protection against injury, and development for the future. But none of these guys are blue chip. None of these guys are ever going to win a pennant for anyone. There's too much redundancy; we don't need Miles AND Cedeno. We don't need Pie AND Gathright. We don't need Hart AND Marshall AND Rich Hill. I'm not sure we need Miles AND Fontenot. I wouldn't mind too much if we kept Hofpauir, to be this year's Daryle Ward, except that while Ward is old and fat and more accepting of his fate, Hofpauir is young and fit and probably most desirous of a full-time position at this point in his career. These guys can't all play at once - or even be on the active roster. It's one thing to be hungry, but another yet again to be discouraged by the logjam of mostly high-dollar talent in front of you. It's NOT a healthy situation, take it from a former benchwarmer - I won't be convinced otherwise.
So, finally, my point - certainly we aren't going to fill in all the rough spots, nor should we. All teams have at least a few. But we may have a few too many, and perhaps that was what DeLuca was getting at - pointing out a couple that have been previously discussed. It doesn't take a magician to throw $30MM at Milton Bradley, or get someone to give you prospects for a top-flight utility man. If Hendry is the man we think he is, can't he use some of the surplus resources we STILL have to improve?
Brian Roberts is a pipe dream; and Jake Peavy may very well be also. But looking at a Chone Figgins is an example of stepping outside of the box a little. It won't make as big of splash as grabbing a Cy Young winner and certain Staff Ace. But the Cubs employ an army of scouts, a boardroom full of Special Assistants, and the so-called best personnel man in the biz, the Magnum P.I.-clad Gary Hughes. Why can't these people complete a decent trade? If it is because Sam Zell can't decide which billionaire to rip off, then MLB ought to step in tomorrow and tell the scaly motherstroker to Shit or Get Off The Pot.
If all of our spare parts (Pie, Cedeno, et al) are still on the roster, and if the "DeRosa Prospects" are still around, come Opening Day, I will consider this offseason to be a Qualified Failure.
What To Do When You Are Out of Options?
The cubs roster is starting to take shape. The Team has made several moves (some good, some not-so-good, some debatable) and has a big one left to make (Milton Bradley). My question is, what are we going to do with all of the guys we have that are out of minor league options?
Felix Pie has been a hot topic for years now. However, if the cubs do in fact add Milton Bradley, it will give us 974 outfielders. Bradley, Kosuke Fukudome, Alfonso Soriano, Reed Johnson, Joey Gathright, Micah Hoffpauir, etc... Where exactly does Felix Pie fit? If you answered nowhere you are the 64 thousand dollar winner. So, what do the cubs do with him? Well, they have to trade him right, but to where and for who? Are we going to have to trade him to the Orioles for Garrett Olsen straight up because we have no other options?
What about Rich Hill? He is the next Erik Bedard, or at least that is what we all thought in the spring of 08. He is also out of options. Can we even move this guy, much less afford to keep him on our major league roster. I dont think he gotten bad enough to clear waivers so that we can assign him back to the minor leagues.
Ronny Cedeno? What to do with poor Ronny? He could make the team, actually he has a way better shot than the other two listed above. These are a couple of questions the team has to be thinking of addressing in the next couple of weeks.
2008 Season Recap: Felix Pie
Sorry to interrupt all exciting trade talk, but I gots to get this recap in before Felix is shipped out of town.
I don't know what it is about young, left-handed centerfielders with a lot of success in the minors who wear No. 20, but it just doesn't seem to work out for them with the Cubs. Such was the case with Corey Patterson and such is the case with poor Felix Pie.
Unlike Patterson, most of us probably feel a little bad for Pie if only because of his…ummm…unfortunate incident. However, like Patterson's waning days with the Cubs, most of can probably agree that Pie's time is all but over on the North Side.
You can't feel too bad for Felix though, he did have more than a few chances to prove himself at the major league level. He was practically given the starting centerfield position without any competition at the beginning of 2008 (albeit on a short lease) and he couldn't hold onto it. He couldn't even stay with the big club for most of the season. In fact, he played so poorly, the Cubs had to go out and reconstruct the smoldering corpse of Jim Edmonds. That, my friends, is not good for Felix.
Pie has all the physical tools to still be a decent major league player. He's fast, he's athletic and still young (23). I'd like to think that someone the same age as me isn't washed-up quite yet, but his time as a Cub seems to be all but over. In fact, his name is probably being tossed around the negotiation table with the Padres or Orioles as I write this.
It's funny when you think about it really. Pie has only played in 130 games (260 AB's) in a Chicago Cubs uniform but it feels like the guy has been around foooooreverrrrrrrrr. Maybe it's because we've heard whispers of the ability he displayed in Iowa or maybe it's because we wanted to get excited about an in-house prospects after the C-Pat implosion, but I can't help but feel like we didn't get a long enough look.
Oh well. Too good for the minors + too inconsistent for the majors = Outta here like Blago.
Baltimore Pie?
As KP noted in the shout box, never count out Andy McPhail to maintain a perhaps unreasonable affection for Cubs prospects who were once in his care.
The Orioles may or may not play the third team in the long-rumored Cubs-???-Padres trade combo that would land Jake Peavy in Chicago, particularly if Felix Pie is available.
According to the Sun, the trade is in no way imminent, but talks are on-going as the Cubs continue their scheme to build the scariest pitching rotation since that time Einstein built a time machine and assembled the deadly five-some of Maddux-Koufax-Gibson-Johnson and Young, although they failed to win the Series that year because they ran out of room in the booth and had to settle for Abe Lincoln at second base. (Let history reflect that we at GROTA always felt he was best suited to play first base due to his lankiness, plus ol' Abe honestly couldn't hit a curveball to save his life.)
But I digress. We've been voicing the view that the Cubs are surely not done yet, while also insisting that whatever comes next won't be on anybody's radar. It's not Baseball Prophecy so much as it's Baseball Conventionalism, and I'll love being proved wrong under the right circumstances.
A Policy of Truth
There's been a bit of buzz on Cubs blogs recently on Felix Pie's work ethic, based on this from Arizona Phil over at The Cub Reporter:
Reading between the lines, it appears that Pie being sent to Fitch Park was more for disciplinary reasons than it was to rehab an injured thumb, with the so-called "sprained thumb" the excuse needed to justify the DL stint and the Fitch Park rehab assignment.
As a further tidbit of bizarro information, Pie had what sounded like an argument with someone from the Cubs brass (I couldn't see exactly who it was, but I could probably guess) who was sitting up in the Fitch Park Tower that overlooks the four fields as Pie was walking to the clubhouse after he left the game in the 6th inning.
I didn't understand the complete nature of the "discussion," but I believe it had something to do with Pie expecting to leave town immediately (like "who is driving me to the airport?"), but being told instead that he would be staying in Arizona for at least one more day.
Pie did not look happy, that's for sure.
Juicy! Intriguing! Absolutely false!
I talked with Cubs Organizational Hitting Instructor Dave Keller today, and he admitted that he was the guy in the tower yelling at Felix Pie (in Spanish) after Pie left the AZL Cubs game on Sunday, but that the conversation had to do with Pie verbally being given the hitting schedule for Monday at Fitch Park (which otherwise was an off day for the AZL Cubs), and that there was no animosity involved in the exchange.
Let's put it bluntly – Goatriders of the Apocalypse does not precisely shy away from saying negative things about baseball players. (You'll find something that I wrote once as the number one result for the Google search "Ryan Theriot sucks." I'm sure that nobody is surprised.) So I'm not trying to engage in some rah-rah Kool-Aid drinking.
But – and this is me, anyways, your mileage may vary – I really don't like passing judgement on a player's personal life unless there's some sort of criminal proceedings to go with it. I have no problem talking about Jason Marquis' poor imitation of a starting pitcher; his bad command, his mediocre stuff, his surprising amount of home runs for a ground ball pitcher.
But people will say things about him lacking mental toughness, or lacking focus or whatever - and how in the hell do you know what's going on in Jason Marquis' head? I mean, really, if you can diagnose somebody's mental state from a box score they need you in the FBI violent crimes division. Expect recruitment shortly.
Ask Roger Clemens - or better yet, ask his mistresses: the ability to pitch in the majors is not related to your merits as a human being. You can be a horrible person and a fine ballplayer; you can be a fine person and a horrible ballplayer.
And now there are all sorts of rumors floating around the Internet about Pie, simply because somebody wanted to tell him what time batting practice was the next day.
I guess my point is this - baseball players, all of them, are humans, just like us. And like all of us, they aren't perfect. We respect and honor them for what they're capable of doing as baseball players, and most of us are only going to know them as baseball players. It can be dangerous and just simply wrong to presume we know them in any other way, and we owe it to them to be careful with the conclusions we draw.


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Mulcahy was in charge of bank robbery investigation for over 20 years in Kansas City and Oklahoma. His first book, "Targets of the FBI," is a retelling of several of the cases he investigated during that time. One reviewer said of the book, "Anyone with an interest in the FBI or law enforcement would enjoy this book."
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