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Behold DOCTOR WHO's New TARDIS Interior!!
The Official DOCTOR WHO Facebook Page and BBC have revealed our fullest look yet at the new TARDIS interior which will debut with The Snowmen, transmitting on Christmas Day.
The design offers a very interesting take on the vehicle's interior - hearkening back to the smaller and simpler interiors in which earlier incarnations of the Doctor traveled. There's also a slight FORBIDDEN PLANET sensibility here...which I can't help but love...
Thanks to Aint It Cool readers John and Anglophile for calling this to our attention so quickly!
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Dec. 19, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST
Loves It
by Randy
Getting a little classic who looking
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST
by ChangKhan
Nice. Love it.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
I like it, though I can't help wondering when the Doctor was watching old ENT episodes...
by Bill C.
Yeah, that was the first thing that occurred to me. It has that same submarine-ish look, apart from the lighting and layout...I'm not complaining, mind, but I'm definitely curious to see how this gets explained.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
Little Borg cube influence, perhaps?
by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST
I love it.
by The Transformed Man
I never thought they'd go so classic.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST
by donkey_lasher
Whatever happened to the parts of that Tardis Console that him and 'Sexy' used?
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST
I'm not keen on the Doctors change of fashion though
by donkey_lasher
Of course, its been proven that the Doc doesn't just change his clothes when he changes his skin.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST
by Gabba-UK
Nice retro feel to it.. Likely.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST
Krell design....
by Ultron ver 2.0
I want to live in a Krell designed house.
Dec. 19, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
The previous console was ridiculous and must have been a bitch to film in. This is cool. Retro with a bit if Trek perhaps. Good stuff.
by Shaun D Lyons
Dec. 19, 2012, noon CST
By Trek I mean JJ Trek.
by Shaun D Lyons
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST
Very Doctor Whoish....In other words, low budget.
by Smerdyakov
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST
by hobbitfeet
Conceptually this is five steps back (and about 25 years in production design terms). The previous Tardis interior felt organic. Like a living breathing extension of the Doctor. Something which gave 'The Doctors Wife' episode it's emotional punch. This new Tardis interior incarnation looks and feels like one of those over-the-top in car sound systems that have a load of lights on that mean nothing. If you continue the car analogy then why go back to supposed 'classic' design that was shonky in the first place? It's like changing your Audi TT for a Mrk 3 Ford Escort. Still, I haven't witnessed the new look Tardis in action yet so...
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST
Doc Fashion
by nytrash
The xmas episode happens in Victorian England so he is dressed for the part. Hopefully the clothes don't stick after the episode...
Plus this one looks very modular, easy to pull apart and put back together. No sense in spending money on the control room(especially if cheaper looks just as nice, or even better). Then again as long as it has a door to outside, one to the rest of the tardis, and an uppydowny thing in the middle I'm cool.
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST
I wonder what the stuff on the 'railing' console is for...
by terrynation
The central island was always where the action was. It looks like there's a bit of grime and wear on it; a version he's had mothballed from the past, perhaps?
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST
@hobbitfeet: I'll give you the car analogy for the funky blue lighting. What's up with that?
by Bill C.
The rest of it is just fine, IMO, but that... (And now the mental image of the TARDIS zipping through space accompanied by 'Move Bitch.' You're welcome.)
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
by butternutz1974
I always had a problem with the console rooms of the new era...This one is a welcome callback
Dec. 19, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST
Paul McGann approves.
by Keith
Victorian clothes, older style TARDIS controls...
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
Side consoles? That's new.
by RobinP
I always wondered why everything was right in the middle with nothing at the sides. I like this, it's both new AND retro, if you catch my drift.
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
Dr. Who Gives a Fuck
by Mike
why do people watch this show?
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
I like it, but it could stand to be a bit bigger.
by Royston Lodge
I like that they're harkening back to an earlier aesthetic, but I also liked the way the new TARDIS interiors were really really big. Why not make a big TARDIS control room that ALSO refers back to the classic aesthetics?
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
That being said, I'm always happy to see hexagons in the control room.
by Royston Lodge
Hexagons FTW.
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST
Looks more like a TARDIS
by buggerbugger
Just need to get rid of that unsightly lump in the centre of it. What's his name again?
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST
by dvdhound
...it's bigger... yet smaller... on the inside?
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
reminds me of the Command Center
by HebrewLantern
From Power rangers. Or is that just me
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
I was kinda hoping they'd go back to the white interior but Abrams it up a bit
by tangcameo
With iPod style and lens flares. The greens and blues, when not seem up close, look like low res CGI or even green screen low res CGI.
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST
@boltvanderdouche: Go back to your Justin Bieber X-Mas Special. Gads man, buy a clue...
by obijuanmartinez
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
What do they do with the old sets?
by Royston Lodge
Did RTD buy it for his personal sex dungeon?
Dec. 19, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
I love the outfit too.
by The Transformed Man
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Console raised one storey from the door?
by hadrion
Wondering if the two stair cases that are hinted at behind him lead down to the door, so when someone comes in, they'd look up at the doctor at the railings above them
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
@obijuanmartinez: Tell Retardis to buy some Production Value
by Mike
This PBS english sci fi turd needs to go bye bye...i know you and the other 10 fans will be disapointed
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST
Nice.............now all we need is a less irritating Matt
by LORDOFLIGHT
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST
Someone who acts like a Doctor--not some annoying kids tv geezer.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Who goes about kissing blokes and women.
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
How come he's never Black?
by Mike
Dr. Who's a fucking racist.
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
Seeing as that interior looks a bit more old school.........maybe Moffat will bring back real Dr Who?
by LORDOFLIGHT
A programme that builds an atmosphere and isn't so concerned with having wacky camp scripts. Something more along the lines of Pyramids of Mars and not Dinos on a Spaceship. Then again--i'm most probably asking too much knowing the modern B.B.C.
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
I could see Jon Pertwee at home in that Tardis. Old school vibe.
by DoctorWho?
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST
Already feels more like classic Who - and love the new outfit!
by sunspot_mike
The steam-punk thing was cool, but it's time to change it up a little bit. Plus, this outfit makes him look even more like a "Man Without A Time"! Think how ridiculous Tom Baker's coat, scarf, and hat were and try to picture them in a modern series. It's the seventh series, there's no need to "attract the straights" anymore. I'm all about it.
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST
I like the new desktop theme. Retro!
by paul cook
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
I've missed most of a season...
by Fremen
Can someone tell me why they changed the TARDIS? Is it because Amy and Rory left?
Dec. 19, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
@boltvontool: Doctor Who = World's longest-running sci-fi series, but don't let that get in your way. Keep the stupid flowing, dude. You're a goldmine of "DUH"
by obijuanmartinez
Dec. 19, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
Did I miss something??....
by DirtyWookie
What happened to the old Tardis?
Dec. 19, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
What fremen said!!!!
by DirtyWookie
Dec. 19, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST
O no a couple trolls bashing my favorite show that might affect me
by Matthew
not at all, Merry Christmas thank you Brits!
Dec. 19, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
Love it but...
by Bab5fan
the bottom looks empty...sorta got used to the larger base. Very classic though. As for a better Doc? Matt is great. But sad lil haters have to shoot their mouths off on the interwebs so that they can feel vindicated and all that jazz.
Dec. 19, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST
I wouldn't go that far sunspot
by LORDOFLIGHT
We've still got Matt Smiths performance to contend with. I just hope his annoying high jinx are toned down......but I doubt it somehow.
Dec. 19, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
Fun fact, "Harry" on a dvorak keyboard is, "Jaoot"
by Breotan
"Classic" Who was trash and like the original Highlander movie is only beloved by people who refuse to admit the truth to themselves. Harry Knowles for example.
Dec. 19, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST
"Worlds Longest Running Pile of Shit"
by Mike
lol. i've never even watched an episode just wanted to rile a geek up...obijuandumbmexican was my huckleberry..adios nerds
Dec. 19, 2012, 4:52 p.m. CST
I like it too, but...
by Will
It does have a colder, more metallic feel than its previous incarnation. I felt the organic esthetic was appropriate, given the nature of the TARDIS. But I hated all the stupid gadgets on the controls, so glad to see they are gone.
Dec. 19, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST
=World's longest-running sci-fi series=
by frank
um, Dr Who is not a scifi series. This is not Star Trek or BSG or Babylon 5 we are talking about. It is a kid's show with some scifi and horror elements thrown in it mostly but mostly it is fantasy series.
Dec. 19, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST
=World's longest-running sci-fi series=
by frank
um, Dr Who is not a scifi series. This is not Star Trek or BSG or Babylon 5 we are talking about. It is a kid's show with some scifi and horror elements thrown in it mostly but mostly it is fantasy series.
Dec. 19, 2012, 6:19 p.m. CST
Wow! Very Hartnell/Troughton!
by ProfWimsey
That outfit is outstanding: it's very reminiscent of Hartnell's & Troughton's styles. For some reason, Victorian/Edwardian always says "Doctor" to me.... I like the interior, too: it's much more like the original, although that's not why I like it. It just seems like the interior should evolve a lot, and this seems to be a nice variation.
Dec. 19, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST
The past is the new future.
by Captain Howdy
I'm sure his younger selves will approve.
Dec. 19, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST
Hey! Back To Basics!
by Real Deal
I love it! I've been waiting for this since 2005. It's not that I didn't like the organic look it's just that I prefer a look closer to the original series but with a better production standard. Bravo!
Dec. 19, 2012, 7 p.m. CST
Re : boltvanderhuge
by Real Deal
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
A 60s scifi vibe
by Dreamfasting
Is it my imagination or are some of those control panels modelled after starship controls from from 60s scifi? Given the upcoming anniversary, that would be very appropriate.
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
Matt's Jules Verne look
by Mister Vertue
I'd be shocked if that's not his new permanent look. Didn't he say right from the very start that he wanted his costumes to change and evolve to avoid boredom with the character? Time will tell...
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
isnt it too high tech?
by john
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
Re: console room looking smaller
by Mister Vertue
Sure, it looks smaller from what we've seen so far, but don't you think that there's so much more to be seen as the series progresses? Bigger soundstage and a new set could very well bring with it some lovely surprises for fans of the Tardis. Definitely a tip-of-the-hat to the older console room design in that photo, which makes me very happy indeed.
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
Unmoderated Docbacks...
by Mister Vertue
Nice to see a few old names popping up to have a gripe and a grumble. Don't see why they can't do that in the regular Friday Docback. You can still criticise the show, just do it in a constructive, sensible and intelligent way. No need to hide.
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST
cavejohnson - no sci-fi?
by Mister Vertue
A blue box that can travel anywhere in space and time and also happens to be bigger on the inside isn't science fiction? He's an alien who visits planets and meets other aliens. Not science fiction? Yes, it has fantasy elements too, but to say it isn't sci-fi is just plain crazy. And a show for kids? Yes, it is. Adults can watch it too. What's wrong with that?
Dec. 19, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST
Re : man_of_vertue - No SciFi?
by Real Deal
Well said!
Dec. 19, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST
@ Royston Lodge and dirtywookie- re: the sets
by ShadowVoyd
Doctor Who moved into it's new production facility with the Christmas episode. The initial 11th Doctor console room was built on what was the Torchwood hub set in Cardiff. As they couldn't literally pick up that entire interior and move it, they either had to recreate the interior or take the opportunity to play a long standing Who motif and update the TARDIS console room yet again. <P> I also can't help but notice that it's got that classic 3rd-5th Doctor vibe just in time for the 50th anniversary. It's very utilitarian and, if need be, can even be redressed to look more like a classic Doctor's console room (you know, should they need a past Doctor doing his Doctory things in his own control room). <P> So yeah, it was primarily a practical reason behind the new interior set and thematic "in story" reasons for why it'll look this particular way both inside and out (as the shiny, "new blue" TARDIS exterior is going to back the battered, well worn look given all the hard knocking around the Doctor will have been doing since losing Rory and Amy).
Dec. 19, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST
Maybe with a new set, their gearing up for a new Doctor?
by Adam Jones
It has been really difficult adjusting to Matt Smiths style as the Doctor ever since Dave Tennant left. I gotta say, I miss David as the Doctor so much. I really couldn't stand Matt in the beginning but he's made some adjustments to his character that seem more adult in nature so i can now tolerate him to an extent. I'd still like a new actor in the role. Perhaps something happens in the 50th Anniversary episode that will trigger his regeneration and we'll get someone more believable as a true Time Lord.
Dec. 19, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST
I think I like it
by ShadowTiger
I agree it might have been cool to go J.J. Abrams on it (white and chrome and glass and so on)...but without the lens flare. (Side note: Was sadly unsurprised to see lens flare in the ST trailer this weekend. Sigh.) That said, I think this "fits" where he is right now quite well. Of course, we need to see the whole room in context, this is, I suspect, just part of it. Especially since there are the stairs going up and down. The only things I'm not sure I like - and I'm willing to see how they look on screen - are all the blue LEDs on the walls. They seem really out of place compared to everything else. (@banthabreeder: I'm think of this - and the new titles - more like the "alternate control room" and new titles during Tom Baker's era, and of course getting ready for the 50th, more than a sign Matt's leaving.) I am quite scared of what's going to happen to the title sequence and music. <still scarred from 6th and 7th doctors> Fingers crossed...
Dec. 19, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
Title sequence
by ShadowTiger
Re my fear of the title sequence...I have been very happy with all of the NuWho sequences so far, so I shouldn't be worried, but at the same time the sequences in the first half of S7 did not do it for me at all. The strange, oversaturated colors. The patterns you couldn't really see well except in screen shots. Don't overdo it, guys. Give me a nice Pertwee opening :)
Dec. 19, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST
The final nod to the classic series would be to add Matt Smith's face to The Title Sequence...nah, they wouldn't
by thecomedian
Dec. 19, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST
boltvanderhuge = great screen name wasted on a moron. cavejohnson = meh screen name wasted on a moron.
by kevred
Only someone who's not familiar with the show's history and who hasn't seen the dozens of legitimately sci-fi storylines they've used over the decades would claim that Who has no claim to being sci-fi. No, it's not the kind of tiresome self-serious drivel that so many American sci-fi shows are, but it's just as much sci-fi as, say, ST:TNG (which is another of the most brilliant shows of all time). Oh, and BSG is a talky soap opera in space.
Dec. 19, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
bitter sweet...
by jason baum
-THE SWEET: that we have the x-mas ep, new series 7 part 2 eps, a new companion, new attire, new tardis AND THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY!!!! plus much much more... -THE BITTER: that we are getting series 7 spread out over two stinking years?! wtf?! if its so the moff can focus on blowing the doors off the 50th, then i will have to acquiesce. but if its because of (my beloved) sherlock, then i'll have to be ticked. because even though i dig the hell out of moff's holmes, the doctor is where my heart truly lies and i want 12-13 eps per year. however i do know that kind of schedule leads to burnout, and i don't wanna loose smith anytime soon. it's funny, like many people i couldn't imagine a universe without tennant. but smith more than won me over and now i am just dreading the day he regenerates. man that's gonna suck. i don't envy the actor nor the show-runner who has to follow in the heavy steps this group took. thanks for letting me ramble guys. this is one of my favorite places to go on the web.
Dec. 20, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST
Too bad they can't make a better looking Melody Pond.
by Fries Against
That bitch is getting old. She was on ER for dick's sake!
Dec. 20, 2012, 6:53 a.m. CST
Matt > David
by chiwrtr72
Didn't realize it until I rewatched some Tennant episodes. Then I realized how much I enjoy Matt's incarnation. I'm glad to have a new look that hearkens back to classic who.
Dec. 20, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST
is it actually pale green if you bring the lights up
by Kathryn Gail
Oooh, look at the support column things, echoing the shape of the D9/D10 TARDIS supports but all industrial looking. Takes some getting used to, but love the blue-light roundels and submarine-y-looking controls. Good space to dress Victorian in without looking sadly late to the steampunk party. Very Jules Verne indeed; they'll all want frock coats for Xmas. [The original(s) was/were pale green b/c white flared on old B&W TV cameras.]
Dec. 20, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
Isn't the "new" attire just contemporary Victorian garb? (In other words, a 1-shot deal...)
by obijuanmartinez
Dec. 20, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
Oh, and @cavejohnson: Star Trek is entertaining, light-weight SF fluff, but heady science fiction to hold up as an example vs. DW? Hardly...(link)
by obijuanmartinez
Not my words, but an adequate illustration nonetheless... http://www.weirdcrap.com/scholarly/trek.htm Would invite you to take in the Philip Hinchcliffe (exec producer) era of classic DW (1974-1977) and re-assess your stance...
Dec. 20, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST
Brian Cranston as the Doctor.
by SergeantStedenko
Dec. 20, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST
Looks like the inside of a spaceship again
by cosmic_dolphin
One of my few dissapointments when the show returned was the restyling of the tardis interior. Was never really a fan of the organic direction they took it in. I love the look of new one though, makes it look much more like a spaceship. Here's hoping we get to see the secondary control room, the lounge.....hey even the swimming pool!
Dec. 20, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
Brian Cranston looks younger
by donkey_lasher
Dec. 20, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST
I've seen DOCTOR WHO's New TARDIS Interior for about a month now. But size isn't everything.
by Bradly Durant
Dec. 20, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
banthabreeder, actually the new set might be gearing up for an old Doctor, not a new one
by DoctorTom
They needed a new TARDIS set because of the move in filming locations, so that doesn't have anything to do with whether we'll get a new Doctor (and we have Smith saying he hopes he's in the 50th, so he'd like to stay longer). This new design though does feel like it might be one of the original desktop patterns for the TARDIS interior, so if they wanted to do something like show a young 1st Doctor, newly on the run from Gallifrey, they could easily use the same console room that they will have now. You could also make an offhand comment if you had any of the other classic Doctors in there - momentary switch of the desktop pattern, running from the tertiary control room (the secondary control room was the wood one Baker had - at least 1 book mentioned a tertiary control room that looked like stone). I do enjoy the controls along the outside as well as the inside. It gives Matt Smith more of a chance running around the console to fly it to bounce between the inside and outside controls. Considering we're getting an episode titled Journey to the Center of the TARDIS, we should be seeing more of the interior. We'll have to see if they use the same corridors from The Doctor's Wife. I suspect so, though probably with a lick of paint to match the new color scheme, but they'll get to spend more money on new TARDIS rooms. Though I still hope from nostalgia's sake we can get some filming at a disused hospital facility for some storage rooms and get the old pool Leela was swimming in.
Dec. 20, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST
Anybody who writes DW off as a kids show and not intelligent science fiction has obviously never watched an episode
by Jeremy Davis
and boltvaderhuge your are the biggest idiot ive ever seen post on AICN and thats really saying something doucebag
Dec. 20, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
A massive improvement on the last one.
by Octavian
But not as good as the #9 version. That was a beaut.
Dec. 20, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST
Is it ever explained...
by I am_NOTREAL
Why the control room changes? Are all iterations versions that are still resident somewhere inside the TARDIS? So, in theory, the smallish white control room that was the norm for Hartnell through McCoy is still in there somewhere? (I do recall T. Baker with one if not two additional different layouts for a few adventures).
Dec. 20, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
i_am_notreal: This is all the explanation you need...
by Royston Lodge
Time Crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szuP0oBZX4g
Dec. 20, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST
Can we get an interior shot
by kingralphuk
Of his new assistant as well?
Dec. 20, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST
in a major interview this year
by emeraldboy
in empire as part of thier tv section, the interviewer said that Matt Smith looked kind of exhausted and smith kind of admitted that it was taking a lot out of him.
Dec. 21, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST
control roomSS
by Comfortably Spit a Rat
i have a dim & distant memory, from either the Pertwee or Baker 1 days, of mention of a large selection of control rooms, along with the interior of the TARDIS being quite staggeringly huge and byzantine. Anyone else confim this?
Dec. 21, 2012, 6:22 a.m. CST
Looks like complete Sh*t. Budget must have been slashed.
by Cash907
Production values? Hello....? Are you there, budget? Looks like some shit a couple of nerds put together in their mom's basement.
Dec. 21, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
comfortably spit a rat
by maxwello
Like you, I vaguely recall it from an earlier era, but it was also a fairly important plot point in "The Doctor's Wife".
Dec. 21, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST
kingralphuk: You wanna look at her internal organs?
by Royston Lodge
Dec. 21, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST
@royston lodge
by kingralphuk
of course I'm a weirdo. Im on freakin' Doctor Who talkback!
Dec. 21, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST
by frank
recreating a whole universe by using the memories of a kid and a blue led light is not scifi, it is pure fantasy fiction..
Dec. 21, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
Since boltvanderhuge is being a massive cock master...
by Dan
Could anyone suggest a "best of" list for me to watch...??? I never saw much Who as a kid, PBS would schedule it sunday nights at 11pm.... not good when you have no VCR. I've watched a few and I dig the Daleks.
Dec. 21, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
Dr Who, from what I've seen does both...
by Dan
Fantasy and science-fiction.... it's ok, nerds, God doesn't care that you can like both.... geez.
Dec. 21, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
That's an old school control room and I love it!
by aramis2112
Dec. 22, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST
Looks like a Submarine interior......Nice suit, though
by blueant
meh.....not very Tardis looking....
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Ashley Payne – the Barrow County teacher who lost her job over unsubstantiated and spurious claims that she allowed students access to her Facebook page — remains unemployed and still waiting for her day in court.
I have touched base with Payne or her attorney every few months, as the hearing on the highly controversial case was initially scheduled for August but has yet to occur. She has not found another job in teaching, although she very much wants to return to the classroom.
The AJC has a news update today on the case, which hinges on who sent an e-mail to the Barrow superintendent alleging that Payne had inappropriate photos and comments on her Facebook page and that she had "friended" students.
The anonymous e-mail, which came from a fake e-mail address, was allegedly sent by a parent but the tenor and the language suggested that a fellow teacher wrote it. The photos were the standard European vacation shots of Payne sitting in cafes and beer gardens. The questionable comment was a reference to playing "bitch bingo," a game played at an Atlanta restaurant/bar.
There was never a shred of evidence that Payne had friended students, and the e-mail clearly seemed the handiwork of a disgruntled co-worker to everyone except the Barrow school officials. Even with the lack of substantiation and the baseless accusations, Payne was warned by her principal that she best resign or face a loss of licensure. Now, Payne is suing, maintaining that she was coerced into resigning. (Read here how the system never traced the source of the e-mail.)
Payne's case struck a nerve nationwide and remains closely watched.
According to the AJC:
Since leaving Barrow, she hasn't been able to find another teaching position.
"She never was able to find a job because things have been kind of bad for teachers," Storrs said. "She's done some part-time jobs and seasonal jobs but not a teaching job."
Since the incident, Barrow County Schools has changed leadership, which Storrs hoped would bring resolution to the case.
Wanda Creel, who took over as superintendent of the district April 1, would not comment in detail except to say the lawsuit had not been resolved.
November 8th, 2010
11:20 pm
Though I normally abhor the practice, in the this case I'll make an exception. I think Payne should file an enormous lawsuit against Barrow county. There are instances were teachers truly made bad decisions regarding Facebook and other social networking sights; however, that clearly doesn't seem to be the case here. The line indicating where teachers' private lives begin is becoming increasingly blurred. Ms. Payne should sue for millions. Let that be a lesson to ALL counties: you are well within your rights to fire teachers for contract infractions committed on their own time, but you are NOT allowed to fire them for having a life. Barrow needs to learn an expensive lesson.
November 9th, 2010
12:03 am
I can only assume comic book boy that you don't live in Barrow County. Perhaps you should put some of your AYn Rand views in practice and offer at least one of those millions of dollars you are advocating the taxpayers of Barrow County should shoulder the burden for. But I suppose you will just Shrug.
You just have to be a Baptist bless your heart………… I mean the hypocrisy just oozes……..
Come on man, STICK to those "principles." Don't advocate her sucking MILLIONS from the hard working taxpayers of Barrow County because you personally as a teacher want a message sent.
She rightfully deserves compensation for her lost wages plus some punitive damages for how she was wronged, but MILLIONS? Why should her lawyer receive MILLIONS? I don't get it. WWAD (what would Ayn do). You must ask yourself that Comic book boy.
November 9th, 2010
12:24 am
Oh, and on another note: I really enjoyed your reports on the convention you went to Maureen. You did a great job of reporting. If I have ever doubted your commitment to educating our children, after reading your recent blogs I can see my doubts were unfounded. I apologize.
Your reports on what has worked are a beacon of light in the dismal landscape of Georgia education. Yes, I send my child to Woodward, (at great sacrifice), but I am still concerned with the education of ALL children. We sacrifice vacations, new cars (my "newest" is 10 years old and blew the motor 3 months ago. I still can't pay to have it fixed), much needed home repairs, ect… to send our child to a fine school. But I never forget that there are many who sacrifice those same things just to put food on the table. There isn't a reason in the world why every child in the state of Georgia cannot receive the same educational benefits as my child does. I hope your latest series of blogs bears some fruit.
Sorry to have gotten of the topic of Ashley Payne.
November 9th, 2010
2:23 am
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November 9th, 2010
5:48 am
I think this was definitely a wrong decision on the principals behave. However, Barrow County's upper administration and school board may have had very rigid views on such things as drinking for teachers. This was a little much though.
I read on the blog before that teachers 40 years ago did not look like they did today or did not socialize like they do today. I have to disagree on this comment made by that individual. I have been teaching for at least 30 years and I can assure you that we had extremely nice looking teachers 30 or 40 years ago and teachers 30 or 40 years ago did socialize and did have drinks. However, we did not have Facebook back then to post our pictures.
I do think there is a lesson to be learned from this case regardless and that is that care should be taken as educators what pictures we post on our Facebook pages. We are under an Educator's Code of Ethic which does have gray areas left up to interpretation.
November 9th, 2010
6:13 am
Where's the evil Teachers Union everyone is always complaining about on this blog?? Why don't they protect her from this stupidity??? Oh, that's right, we don't HAVE a union!!
November 9th, 2010
6:27 am
As for a lawsuit…I don't think teachers can sue their employers in GA, can they? I think she can try to get her lost wages back, but not sue for punitive damages. Am I right?
November 9th, 2010
6:32 am
She needs to contact MACE (Metro Ass. of Classroom Educators)and their attys.
November 9th, 2010
7:39 am
Typical woman jealousy. Probably some fat ole slug is the one that ratted her out.
November 9th, 2010
7:41 am
I hope that when this comes to civil trial, Ashley gets awarded payment for all these months, and any more this might go on, of not being able to work, from the school system. I also would hope the judge would order the information about the email turned over to her forensic computer people, so that the sender can be found and sued for everything they own!
This was reprehensible behavior on the system's part, from the very beginning.
November 9th, 2010
7:46 am
@ Ella- who cares what the view of Barrow admin regarding drinking alcohol is? Alcohol consumption is legal for adults over 21, regardless of the opinion of the Barrow County school system. This teacher did not drink with students, she did provide alcohol to students, she did not advocate that her students drink. She, a legal adult, had a drink. Get a life people. V for Vendetta is right- these micromanaging administrators need to learn a pricey lesson.
November 9th, 2010
7:48 am
Fred: maybe after they pay several millions, the good taxpayers of your county will DEMAND some heads roll, and DEMAND that their BOE employees FOLLOW THE LAW.
If someone had gone out and loosened a wheel on Ashley's car, causing her to crash and become disabled, would you not expect that someone would have to cough up millions?
I think she should never have to work again, thanks to the incredibly ignorant way this was handled, both by the principal and the system.
November 9th, 2010
8:05 am
It is actions like this that make me question my profession. School boards routinely keep unqualified teachers AND administrators because "they are impossible to fire," but fire a young teacher like this for nothing of substance! Outrageous.
November 9th, 2010
8:26 am
WOW!! One of my dearest friends is a school teacher and may I add, a teacher of the year several times! My point, she LOVES beer. So, if I were to place a picture of her on facebook drinking a beer, she would lose her job??? This is the very reason that the public schools in GA are soooooooooooo screwed up. Admin and super. have their heads up their butts as to what is important. So we fire teachers that have social lives outside of school doing NOTHING illegal and we keep encouraging teachers to cheat on testing and allowing students to be passed on to higher grades. They can grade inflate and cheat on crct test etc. This is not illegal? But having a drink outside of school is???? I hope this teacher gets millions!!!! To the teacher, even though she doesn't realize it yet… the GA school system did her a favor. Another, much wonderful opportunity is waiting for you. Hopefully she will realize that another door has been opened for her, consider this a huge favor!!!
November 9th, 2010
8:37 am
And we sit here wondering what's wrong with our school systems……this, my friends, goes in the same category as bullying. The person who sent the anonymous e-mail should, and could be caught, and be made to pay for ruining this young ladies life. There are some awfully mean people in this world, and the scary part is one of them could be your next door neighbor……someone out there knows who the perpertrator is…..and they know what they should do…..will they do the right thing? I hope so, because if they don't, the guilt will become unbearable.
November 9th, 2010
8:37 am
Having been through this type of thing I have to say I will be very surprised if this teacher gains anything but a few headlines and being locked out of teaching in GA ever again.
In my case I was forced to resign under duress and by being lied to. Since then I have been harassed over the course of several years by employees of my former district. They have contacted 2 Superintendents I have since worked for to try and have me fired, libeled me in local newspapers and web blogs, and spread slander around my hometown.
I have spent upwards of 20 thousand dollars to track these people down through IP addresses and know exactly who it has been doing this, central office officials, principals and technology staff however the rest of the case is still pending after 3 plus years of this mess.
November 9th, 2010
9:05 am
I hope this young lady has had an epiphany concerning the Facebook thing. If you teach, don't do Facebook. I work with teachers that friend students on Facebook and just shake my head. Even if you don't friend students, I don't see the benefit.
November 9th, 2010
10:08 am
Why should teachers not be able to have facebook pages like everyone else? True, they should not "friend" students but I have no idea why being a teacher should keep someone from conversing with friends and family. The only "epiphany" that should be had is by the stupid people who fired her over this! Maybe we should go back to the time when teachers could not marry, be seen with men other than their fathers or brothers or be out after dark!
November 9th, 2010
10:38 am
@ Enough! Why must you resort to name calling? Also
"Why should teachers not be able to have facebook pages like everyone else?" Gee I don't know, maybe to keep from having to put up with this kind of thing? There are certain rules of engagement for any profession and it just doesn't seem that teaching and facebook go hand in glove. I have no account and it doesn't keep me from conversing with family and friends.
November 9th, 2010
10:39 am
THERE IS NO TEACHER'S UNION IN GEORGIA! How many times do we have to say it???
When my mother began teaching in the 1920's, teachers could not live alone ( they had to be boarded in a" home"), could not marry, dared not date locally, dared not be seen in a "movie house", and were not allowed to be unescorted after dark. Now we are saying that teachers can't have Facebook pages?
I don't drink nor do I befriend students ( in fact I block them); no one who is not my friend can see my personal pages. But I have a life, too, and the easiest way to keep up with my family far away is Facebook. I have rights, too, and I have a right to a private life. It is no one's business what that life includes or what I do with it.
November 9th, 2010
10:53 am
Right on, Elizabeth.
I am sorry that some posters here apparently have such small lives that they do not have the necessity of keeping up with loved ones in other states and countries in an easy and quick manner. However, for those of us who have lived in other places and other cultures, as I believe good teachers should do in order to become wise people of experience, facebook allows us to do easily keep up with loved ones far away.
Barrow County deserves to pay out the nose for treating a teacher in this manner. What example is the adminstration setting if they are allowed to bully a teacher in such a way?
November 9th, 2010
11:45 am
Pluto, quite simply, you have no idea what you are talking about. So the teacher in question should "have to put up with this"? You must be one of those people who does not believe in individual rights. This is the same mentality that if you leave your door unlocked, you deserve to be robbed and to have the criminal sue you if they fall down while in in your house.
November 9th, 2010
12:12 pm
Let's face it (pun intended) this Is only making headlines because it involves Facebook. If it had been something less new or novel in circumstance the AJC etc would not have noticed or written about it. It might have gotten a blurb in the local paper. Maybe.
November 9th, 2010
12:35 pm
Amen, Maureen. I find it ironic that teachers are held to such high ethics and morals, but our public elected officials are not.
November 9th, 2010
12:37 pm
What if the teacher had gone to UGA's homecoming and was photographed tailgating and drinking a beer? What if this photo were then sent anonymously to the principal? Would he have done the same thing? Now what if the teacher was sitting in Chilis? What if she were photographed drinking a Margarita? Same deal? How is Facebook different from any other aspect of life?
November 9th, 2010
12:44 pm
Like I said, it is novel and timely so it gets ink. The problem is with the laws surrounding it. She resigned. I first attempted to bring a suit for constructive discharge but quickly found out it doesn't apply to school employees. My GAE lawyer told me my situation was one of the most egregious he had seen in 20 years but that I was out of luck legally.
It wasn't until my former employers began harassing me ( with anonymous emails and nonanonymous phone calls) due to their perception that I was 'whistleblowing' that I wound up having even a chance at a legal case ( with a non GAE attorny I might add).
The laws for school people are very different than many believe.
November 9th, 2010
12:54 pm
Ayn Rand supported individual rights. I would argue that this woman's individual rights have been severely compromised–especially considering she is still unemployed. Her story has appeared on the local, state, and national stages. I think catlady is right: the people of Barrow will suffer because of the fools they have running the show. Maybe they'll make better decisions in the future.
November 9th, 2010
12:55 pm
Hey how many times do you need to see or know of someone who gets burned in the teaching profession to figure out that Facebook may not be such a wise idea. If you want to roll the dice be my guest. And Enough! don't flatter yourself that you even remotely know what I believe.
November 9th, 2010
1:52 pm
It seems the only unwise idea in all of this is to become a teacher in the first place. Not being able to do something because of the profession you're in doesn't seem to apply to much more public figures, so why should teachers be treated any differently?
November 9th, 2010
3:19 pm
My point is this type of things happens a good bit under the radar. Bullying of teachers is rampant in this state. People are routinely crucified for 'anonymous' reports and issues and have no real defense. We have PAGE telling teachers not to have Facebook pages, GAE lawyers that tell you you are out of luck while agreeing you were treated horribly. This sort of thing doesn't only happen to young girls out in the sticks. The laws and regulations are written in favor of the school systems and central offices. One lawyer I spoke with told me he was on a committee that helped write the law regarding demotion and that the simple addition of the word 'and' in the phrase that speaks to lowering of one's position AND salary must be present to claim it is a demotion in a school system changed the entire intent of the committee and has led to many people being removed from positions but not having their salaries lowered so they can't claim a demotion factored into any potential claims. This is just one example.
In my case I simply (and naively) pointed out students were being transferred out of some schools to another in the data system. Shortly thereafter I was told I would no longer be needed as I did not have the background or credentials for the position which was a bald faced lie. But, I resigned so I was out of luck.
The system needs some harsh daylight or it will never get better. Unfortunatly no one really seems to be willing to turn over the rock.
November 9th, 2010
5:08 pm
I have a problem with a school system telling one what she can and cannot do outside of the school or school day. No one dictates what a lawyer, accountant or engineer puts on her Facebook page. Why should a teacher's posts or pics be subject of anyone's business unless she post on school property during school hours. As long as the post was made after school hours and off campus why is it even being discussed. If a teacher can't be pictured drinking alcohol, will the school system also make it wrong for the teacher to purchase beer and wine in grocery stores where students might work? Please tell school systems to keep their noses out of our personal lives.
November 9th, 2010
5:31 pm
This sad situation might be argued from any number of perspectives. However, at the basic core lies the question of Ms. Payne's judgement. Whether or not she actually "friended" students remains unanswered. This career-disrupting/ruining accusation, true or not, appears to be, on the surface, merely the active imaginations of the Barrow superintendent. Bear in mind, however, that, as an adult and as an influencer of kids, it is her sole responsibility to avoid any and all possibilities that her personal life become intertwined, in any form or fashion whatsoever, with her professional life. Surely, Ms. Payne is fully aware of the recent tragedies involving misuse/abuse of Facebook technology. Apparently, she choose to ignore the very real possibility of the very same pitfall and instead shared, with others, a very private side of her life. Sadly, Ms. Payne, right or wrong, has only her poor judgement to blame for her woes.
It is my sincere hope that, someday, she can look back on this unfortunate experience as a learning tool in trust.
November 9th, 2010
7:05 pm
There is a difference between expected standards of conduct and preventing people from doing something completely innocent. This is the latter.
Ole Guy,
I believe it was proved that she did NOT have students as friends. Maureen, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that had already come out.
November 9th, 2010
7:30 pm
I believe that she stated in interviews that she was not FB friends with any students or student parents, and her security settings were set so that people who were not friends could not see her posts or photos. I have mine set to a similar level, and if someone who is not a FB friend looks up my name, all they will see is my profile pic and my gender.
I guess my question to those who say teachers shouldn't be on FB is, where does it end? Will a school system fire me because I went to a restaurant and ordered a drink, and a student saw me? Can I lose my job for buying wine at the local store? How about politics? Should I lose my job because of a campaign sign that I have in my yard that my administration may not agree with?
Sure, there are definitely teachers who should have lost their job over posts that they put on FB disparaging their students or student parents, but this is not the same thing. I'm with V, sue them for everything. The people of Barrow County could have demanded that the BOE reinstate her, but they didn't. Actions have consequences. Isn't that what everyone who thinks she shouldn't have a FB page is saying?
November 9th, 2010
8:16 pm
Go figure, the teacher in Coweta who tried to kill her husband by poison gets to keep her job because "she's a good teacher," but this young lady in Barrow loses her job over a photo with a wine glass. Unbelievable.
November 9th, 2010
8:38 pm
The bias against Facebook in the GA education culture is astonishing to me. I've encountered it repeatedly in just the year and a half I've had a child in the system. I cannot call it anything but raw ignorance. There is nothing unique or genuinely new about Facebook. If teachers are permitted to send emails to students, links to blogs, or any kind of web pages all the same content can be communicated but without the Facebook label it somehow smells better. I mean, let's be realistic, if a teacher *told* a student "Hey, I went to Europe and had a beer once upon a time," would that be so horrible?
There's some weird form of mass hysteria surrounding the prevalence of Facebook behavior in teacher firings. I don't know how it came about, but I hope to live to see it's reversal.
November 9th, 2010
10:50 pm
These board members, and the person who ratted her out, must have BIG EYES, BIG EARS, and a little bitty brain. What idiots. A glass of wine? Give me a freaking break!!! I hope one of the magazine shows with those pesky interviewers swoop down on this crowd, and make them all look even more backward and stupid than they really are.
November 9th, 2010
11:58 pm
I don't think the issue here is what she should or shouldn't have put up on facebook. This is a much bigger problem. My guess is they wanted her gone and the whole "email from a parent" about her facebook was completely set up as a means to that end. If she didn't have a facebook page they would have constructed some other trumped up scenario to scare her into resigning. The time frame from the reception of the anonymous email to bringing her into the office to threaten her sets off my hinky meter and is reason enough to have those administrators turned into the PSC for behaving in an unprofessional manner. At the very least, they should be disciplined for incompetence and put on a PDP. The Barrow school system needs be forced to make it right by Ms. Payne in a $big$ way if only to put them and all the other districts on notice about what can happen when they mess with a teacher who is willing to stand up for herself. We need more like her.
November 10th, 2010
10:05 am
The principal was being judgmental and biased based on his own standards and morals. One should also keep in mind drinking is legal and she is only holding a glass that may or not contain wine. If the principal were a Muslim and fired her for not being veiled in a photograph the public would be rioting. In the not too distant past teachers were terminated for getting divorced, being married to a person of another race, being suspected of homosexuality or having a child out of wedlock.
There are so many holes in this entire incident on the part of the principal that he should never be allowed to work in a public school again or for any other government agency for that matter.
The PSC should strip him of his credentials as well.
There are many fine Christian schools in this state that I'm sure would hire him after this fiasco.
November 10th, 2010
10:54 am
V, you are absolutely correct in that Ms. Payne was proven innocent of the charge of befriending students. However, I am sure you will agree that, often-times (for good or for bad…for right or for wrong), Truth, Justice, and The American Way are based, not on proven fact but on supposition, conjecture, and the very hint of impropriety. Is it right? Of course not. Is it, nonetheless, a sad reality? Unfortunately, yes.
Many years (too many years) ago, during my so-called "glory days" when the consumption of copious volumns of alcohol was an integral component of the Military Aviation Culture, Chaplain H. became a regular at the O Club bar. The good Chaplain could always be relied upon to regail us Butter Bars, Shave Tails, and idiot pilots with tales of yore. Despite the Chaplains status as a Man of the Cloth, he was viewed, by many, as a friend, and as a drinking buddy. I believe his presence, at the bar, even motivated quite a few to attend Sunday Mass.
As the story went (although I was long-gone to areas of the globe best forgotten), a senior officer, who did not share in the Chaplain's zeal, reported, through chanels, the Good Chaplain's presence/behavior in what was (for good reasons or bad…for right or for wrong) deemed an environment inappropriate to that which he represented.
I do not know whatever became of Chaplain H, but I often think of him, as I do those who, in one way or another, left a positive impression upon the fibers of my being. But let us not stray into the dark corners of my youth.
Ms. Payne, quite possibly like the Chaplain, while exercising a seemingly innocent pastime, quite possibly failed to realize that, given her chosen station in life, the slighest hint of impropriety stood a good chance of unwarranted magnification.
The wonders of internet communication is a marvel to which I have been privey for a relatively short period of time. However, I suspect that one's Facebook data is available only to those select few…"friends", if you will…who are chosen by the Facebook account holder. It is Ms. Payne's choice of "friends"…parents, administrators, and/or peers notwithstanding…which may have aided and abeted the situation in which she now finds herself.
Thank you, V, for bring, to my attention, that detail.
November 10th, 2010
10:54 am
What happened to Ms. Payne was obviously egregious, and I agree with several posters that she should sue for zillions of dollars. She deserves it.
Having said that, I will go out on a limb here: if she had not put those pictures and that comment on Facebook, this might not have been happening to her (taking into account, as someone posted, that someone was out to get her for whatever reason).
I don't have a Facebook account and never will, partly because of stories like this. We can say all we want that what happened to Ms. Payne is wrong and unfair, and it is. But the more we put our private lives on the internet, the more fodder and ammunition we give to whoever might be out there gunning for us for any reason. And that's true for everyone—not just teachers.
Personally, I look forward to and hope for the day when Facebook goes the way of the dodo bird. It's just caused way too much trouble for too many people since its inception.
November 10th, 2010
12:06 pm
Please! I live in Barrow and have children (1) in school, the other child i removed from school due to abuse from preschool teacher, this child has a non verbal disability, and last I checked all involved and knowledgeable about this abuse is still employed. I have dealt with the admin. in Barrow from the past superintendent, special education coordinators etc. Let me tell you some of them are more crooked than my great grans. arthritic fingers. I believe 100% that Ms. Paine was coerced and intimidated by the principal behind closed doors. Ms. Paine should have stopped the principals accusations when they began and requested an attorney be present to represent her. If I were a teacher I would request that all conversations, reviews etc, with superiors be recorded. I would have my own recorder on my person at all times, if they refuse to record then refuse the meeting. I have seen families of special needs kids circumvented (wrongly) to juvenile court. The admin. in Barrow county is in line with using mafia like tactics and they use taxpayers money to play these games. Believe me when I say I have felt their wrath. I can almost guarantee that they will not be able to cough up the writer of the email. How can they destroy a persons life without substantial evidence? I guess hear-say holds more weight than evidence in this county.
November 10th, 2010
1:29 pm
@Private School Guy: Yes, you are quite right when you say that in the not too distant past teachers were terminated for reasons like getting a divorce, marrying someone of another race, having a child out of wedlock or being suspected of being homosexual. If all else failed, the powers that were could always bring out that old standby "conduct unbecoming a teacher." In the slightly more distant past, teacher's contracts often had stipulations that a teacher could not fall in love, become engaged, or secretly married and could not go out with a young man unless it was deemed necessary for the promotion of sunday school work. Of course, drinking, dancing, and movie attendence were no-no's, also. We have all heard of the "Roaring Twenties." If teachers took part in the fun, it was strictly on the sly. Teachers have made some progress since the 1920's (Thanks @Elizabeth for bringing that up) but this incident indicates they still have a ways to go.
November 11th, 2010
12:05 am
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November 12th, 2010
7:48 am
When is drinking on your own time a firing offense. Extreme retards run these schools. Why would anyone give damn if teacher is having a drink. Stupid stupid people.


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HARRISBURG, Pa. (BP) -- The 190 people who worship on Sunday mornings at East Shore Baptist Church are spread pretty thin.
They minister at a halfway house, truck stop, school and race track.
They're also involved in biblical counseling, community outreach and planting churches locally -- in the Harrisburg, Pa., area -- and globally -- in the Caribbean and Africa.
"Our call is to do what God desires," said Brian Harrison, pastor for the past 11 years. "We want to do more than simply do church. We're getting to the heart of what God has truly called East Shore to do and to be in the context of our community and our world."
The Cooperative Program is the foundation on which local ministries are based, Harrison said. "The Great Commission starts here, locally, and as we go, we are undergirded by the Cooperative Program here and to the ends of the earth."
East Shore gives 13.5 percent of its undesignated receipts to missions through the Cooperative Program, the way Southern Baptist churches work together to minister through their state conventions and around the world.
"Our giving to missions through the Cooperative Program is what we give to God and His Kingdom as a church body," Harrison said. "We are investing in God's Kingdom."
While East Shore has received CP support for some of its ministries, such as for a sound system for a church plant, the benefit of Cooperative Program giving is more intangible, Harrison said.
"The biggest benefit, for me, is what we see God doing through the Cooperative Program in Pennsylvania, South New Jersey and throughout the world," the pastor said. "To be a part of that is awesome and a blessing."
East Shore used the Transformational Church assessment tool from LifeWay Christian Resources to learn how God can most effectively use the church in the expansion of His Kingdom. At a retreat in November, members got a better handle on what God's desire is for East Shore, the pastor said. Church planting will continue to be a major thrust.
"I am so passionate about helping plant churches in our area," Harrison said. "We grow, and we give families away to church plants.
"A church needs to give itself away," he said. "There are not very many biblical churches or evangelical churches in our area, and there are a lot of people who don't go to any church on Sunday."
East Shore helped plant Living Legacy Church in Hershey, Pa. Now the two churches are partnering to plant churches in the Capital Region of Pennsylvania and are working with Transcend Church and Redeeming Grace Church, both new launches in Harrisburg.
Partnerships -- such as the one between East Shore and Living Legacy -- multiply effectiveness, said Harrison, president of the state convention's executive board for the past four years.
"It's a blessing to both churches when together they can do something neither one could do alone," the East Shore pastor said. "That same principle is what makes the Cooperative Program work so well. Together we can do so much more than any of us could do on our own."
Pennsylvania, an ethnically diverse state and state Baptist convention, has more than 12 million unreached people, Harrison said. This includes a fairly large refugee community of Bhutanese who were settled in the central part of the state by the United Nations.
East Shore, outside the beltway and northeast of downtown Harrisburg, is in the planning stages of a partnership with an inner-city African American church. In addition, a church planter from the Congo is in Harrison's Leadership Training Program. He is training to reach people from Africa who live in Pennsylvania.
"Some years ago our church hosted and helped plant a Ukrainian church," Harrison said. "While that church has since flourished and gotten out on its own, it wasn't always easy. There were a lot of lessons learned....
"I know what Cooperative Program giving means to us here," Harrison said. "There simply aren't enough churches to support the work God has called us to do. We could not do what we do without the Cooperative Program."
About half a dozen East Shore members lead a Bible study each Wednesday at the Keystone halfway house for soon-to-be-released prison inmates; and on Sunday, the church van brings those who want to attend Sunday morning worship.
Another group of East Shore members ministers through KidsHopeUSA at an elementary school near the church. Still other members provide meals several times a year at the back side of the Penn National Racetrack, which is near the church, to support and encourage the ministry of Chaplain David Dow, who links with the Baptist Resource Network. Another couple have faithfully ministered for more than 11 years to truckers passing through on Interstate 81.
Co-pastor Bryan Lingle leads the East Shore Biblical Counseling Center, where several members have been trained to share Scripture as a way of helping people address issues in their lives. The church also helps with the local recreation center and many other community projects.
"We are a very busy church," Harrison said. "We cannot do all the good things that come along ..., and sharing Christ in our region can be a real challenge. We just desire to do what God has called us to do, and do it very well. Another [challenge] is that we are failing to properly disciple our people, and we are working hard to correct that.
"But we are already seeing God at work," the pastor said. "I think God has given us a unique calling because of the number of people with unique skills He has brought here."
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This game show classic takes a Royal twist as a Royal leads each team.
Manager Ned Yost sits down to talk about the Royals roster and preview the upcoming season.
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GM Dayton Moore discusses his assessment of 2013 and outlook for 2014 and beyond.
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A trial date has been set for Madison, Nebraska, man after police say he shot another man in the face at this Norfolk nightclub in November.
Today, 28-year-old Jordan Beehn pled not guilty to felony assault and weapons charges.
He's accused of shooting 28-year-old Alberto Zepeda-Flores during an altercation outside the nightclub.
His trial is set for April 8th.


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Give Your Medicine Cabinet a Makeover!
August 26, 2011 Beauty by the Numbers
Walgreens pharmacist Shereif Sorial gave tips on how to reorganize your medicine cabinet, starting with expired medication.
"Expiration dates are for real. Once dates are reached, products become less effective," Sorial explained.
As for four must-haves medicines you should always have handy, Sorial said, "Walgreens-brand Tylenol; two kinds of anti-allergy medication, one long-acting and one short; Benadryl, liquid form; and antacid tablets."
For more information and the best ways to dispose of unused medication, visit FDA.gov!
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