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BaByliss 6421BDU Diamond Radiance Salon Dryer
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BaByliss 6421BDU Diamond Radiance Salon Dryer
This hairdryer boasts a revolutionary Diamond Radiance Shine System that combines smooth diamond infused ceramic and active ionic conditioners to leave your hair silky soft.
The added ions also help control frizz to give you beautifully smooth results and a wonderfully healthy shine. The powerful 2200W motor also ensures you can quickly dry your tresses when you're running late, with 3 heat and 2 speed settings to ensure you can easily tailor it to suit your hair type.
With a long 2.7 metre cord, you can comfortably move around too and the slim concentrator nozzle helps you to get a professional looking blow dry. This BaByliss hairdryer also has a cold shot button that sets your style and gives your locks an extra shiny finish.
- 2200W motor
- Powerful long-life AC motor
- Diamond infused ceramic outlet grille
- Active frizz-controlling ionic conditioners
- 3 heat / 2 speed settings for variable styling control
- Cold shot button
- Removable filter for easy cleaning
- Salon slim concentrator nozzle
- Hanging loop for tidy storage
- 2.7 metre salon length cord
- BaByliss 6421BDU Diamond Radiance Salon Dryer
BaByliss 2667U Curl Secret Hair Styler
With this curler you can effortlessly create beautiful, free-flowing curls without the salon price tag. It automatically draws your locks into the ceramic chamber, softly holding your hair and heating it from all directions. You can then simply release the styler for instantly gorgeous curls.
The ceramic style of the chamber ensures it doesn't tangle or damage your tresses as you curl and with such a simple to use design you can easily get a salon quality look from home.
This styler comes with 2 heat settings, along with 3 timer settings so you can create loose waves or tight curls with ease. There's even an automatic curl direction control for a natural finish every time. An auto shut off function means you won't have to worry about whether or not you've left your styler switched on.
- Ceramic curl chamber
- Professional heating system
- 2 heat settings
- 3 timer settings
- Audio beep indicator, alternating curl direction
- Heat ready indicator
- 20 minute sleep mode function, Auto shut off
- 2.5m swivel cord
- Heat protection mat
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss 2667U Curl Secret Hair Styler
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- This styler is not designed for use on very long hair and should not be used on hair lengths below the bust.
- This styler reaches high temperatures and is not suitable to be used on either synthetic or real hair extensions.
BaByliss 3045U Thermo Ceramic Heated Rollers
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BaByliss 3045U Thermo-Ceramic Heated Rollers
Create gorgeous curls and loose waves with these easy-to-use rollers. Each roller delivers a high heat performance, while the variable temperature control means you can tailor them to suit your hair type.
The heat ready indicator lets you know when you can start styling, and the rollers have cool ends to prevent burnt fingertips. The clips and metal pins are ideal for keeping them in place while you finish getting ready, before unrolling them to reveal beautiful curls with plenty of volume.
Each roller has a ceramic design to ensure they don't snag for a gorgeously glossy finish every time. This BaByliss roller set also includes 3 different sizes so you can experiment with your look.
- 20 thermo-ceramic rollers
- 8 large, 6 medium and 6 small rollers
- 10 super clips
- 20 metal pins
- High temperature performance
- 2 heat settings for different hair types
- Heat ready indicator dot
- On indicator light
- 1.85 metre cord
- BaByliss 3045U Thermo-Ceramic Heated Rollers
BaByliss 2082DU Ombr 235 Straightener
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BaByliss 2082DU Ombré 235 Straightener
This beautiful, dual toned styler has been specifically designed to create both straight and curly styles. With Advanced Ceramics for ultra-fast heat up to 235°C and maintaining constant high heat during use for fast results. The longer length titanium-ceramic plates can style larger sections of hair at one time for fast, smooth styling. A specially curved housing design makes the BaByliss Ombré
Styler ideal for creating curls and waves in the hair.
Multi-voltage with a slim design makes it ideal for use at home or away. Variable heat settings to suit every hair type.
- Up to 235°C with Advanced Ceramics for fast 15 second heat up
- Rounded housing design to create beautiful curls and waves
- Longer titanium-ceramic plates glide through the hair for an ultimate smooth finish and fast styling
- 20 temperature settings
- On/off button
- Auto shut off
- Multi-voltage for worldwide use
- 3m salon swivel cord
- Heat protection wrap
- 5 year guarantee
- BaByliss 2082DU Ombré 235 Straightener
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BaByliss 2285CU Curling Wand Pro
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BaByliss 2285CU Curling Wand Pro Styler
The BaByliss Curling Wand Pro Styler is the ultimate hair styling tool to create professional looking, kink-free curls. The wan features an extra-long ceramic coated barrel which is perfect for long locks and the Wrap Control™ feature along with barrel gives you beautiful, sleek, salon-perfect curls - effortlessly.
The Wrap Control feature gently holds the hair around the barrel, with a top temperature of 210°C for a long-lasting finish. You can also use the 5 digital temperature settings to create a range of looks, from sultry waves to corkscrew curls for complete versatility.
Ready to use in just 30 seconds it boasts an elongated barrel that makes it great for long locks, with advanced ceramics to maintain a constant high heat for even and professional results. The heat ready indicator lets you know when you can start styling too.
The 2.5 metre swivel cord gives you freedom as you style, while the auto shut off ensures you won't have to spend the day worrying that you've left your styler on.
- Top temperature of 210°C
- 5 digital temperature settings
- 25 mm -13 mm ceramic coated barrel
- Ready to use in 30 seconds
- Auto shut off
- Mains powered
- 2.5m swivel cord
- Wrap Control™ for easy winding
- Long barrel
- On/off button
- Heat ready LED indicator
- Cool tip
- Integrated heat rest
- Universal heat protective glove
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss 2285CU Curling Wand Styler
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BaByliss 2885U New Big Hair Styler
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BaByliss 2885U New Big Hair Styler
This BaByliss styler allows you to create a salon perfect blow-dry with dramatic volume thanks to the rotating brush that boasts an ionic conditioning system, giving your hair a wonderful frizz-free shine.
The large ceramic 50 mm barrel adds fullness and body as you dry, replicating the volumising technique used by the top hairdressers to get salon worthy hair.
The barrel has a multi directional design, with 2 rotation speeds and a 2.5 metre cord that gives you complete freedom as you style. The soft bristles ensure it doesn't snag or tangle either for gorgeously glossy locks.
With 2 heat settings so you can tailor it to suit your hair type, while the added cool shot function is ideal for setting your style and creating a long-lasting effect.
This BaByliss styler comes with a handy protective cover so you can easily pack it away without worrying about bending the bristles.
- 2 heat settings and 1 cool shot option
- Ionic conditioning system
- 2.5 metre cord
- Mains powered
- 700-watt
- 50mm ceramic barrel
- Soft bristles
- 2 rotation speeds
- Multi-directional brush
- Hinged rear filter
- Protective cover
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss 2885U New Big Hair Styler
BaByliss For Men 7810U Beard Trimmer
The BaByliss For Men Even Finish Beard Trimmer can be used mains or cordless for maximum power but with the flexibility and freedom of cordless use. The length-lock system ensures no slipping in use and maintains the length setting to guarantee an even cut. With 20 pre-set dial controlled cutting lengths from 1mm – 20mm perfect for creating the desired length beard.
- Mains or cordless operation - with the cord for sustained power or use cordless for total flexibility and convenience.
- No slip length-lock system guarantees an even cut.
- Electro-chemically sharpened stainless steel blades for exceptional precision and sharpness with no need for oiling.
- 20 cutting lengths from 1mm-20mm for various length beards.
- Precise dial control adjusts the comb guide in 1mm increments.
- Lubricating oil.
- Cleaning brush.
- 3 years guarantee
BaByliss Pro Curl 210 Tongs.
Up to 210°C salon performance tong for quick and easy curling results. With its Advanced Ceramics™ heating system it has ultra fast heat recovery to maintain constant high heat during use and is ready to use in seconds. The 25mm tourmaline-ceramic barrel creates perfectly defined curls with a smooth shiny finish.
- 25mm tourmaline-ceramic coated barrel
- Up to 210°C salon temperature
- 5 digital temperature settings for all hair types
- Advanced Ceramics™ for ultra fast heat up and heat recovery
- On/off switch with heat ready indicator
- Cool tip
- Integrated heat rest
- 1.8m swivel cord
- Auto shut off
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss Pro Curl 210 Tongs
BaByliss 5282AU Nano 1200 Watt Hairdryer - Pink
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BaByliss 5282AU Nano 1200 Watt Hairdryer
Who says practical has to mean boring? This compact travel hairdryer has plenty of power with a hot pink hue to add an instant burst of colour.
It also gives amazing performance, despite being only half the size of a regular hairdryer. The 2 heat settings allow you to tailor it to suit your style, with a slim concentrator nozzle for precision drying.
The multi-voltage feature ensures you can take it with you on your travels, while the lightweight design means it won't impact on your baggage allowance.
- 2 heat / speed settings
- 1200 watt
- Multi-voltage for worldwide use
- Powerful airflow for fast drying
- Concentrator nozzle
- Lightweight
- Compact
- 3 year manufacturer's guarantee
- BaByliss 5282AU Nano 1200w Hairdryer - Pink
BaByliss 5567U 2200w Turbo Hairdryer
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BaByliss 5567U 2200w Turbo Hairdryer
This BaByliss hairdryer is perfect for fast styling so you can get gorgeous results in double quick time.
The 3 speed settings mean you can give your locks a quick blast or spend time perfecting your look, with 3 heat settings that allow you to tailor it to get just the right temperature.
Once you've finished simply use the cool shot option to set your hair and get a gorgeous, long-lasting style. It also adds a wonderful shine for healthy looking results.
The ionic and ceramic technology adds to this, giving you glossy frizz-free locks. It also comes with a handy concentrator nozzle so you can direct the airflow and ensure you're in complete control.
- 3 heat settings plus cool shot option
- 2 speed settings
- Ionic technology
- Ceramic technology
- Mains powered
- Hinged rear filter
- Concentrator nozzle
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss 5567U 2200w Turbo Hairdryer
BaByliss 5344U Travel 2000w Hairdryer
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BaByliss 5344U Travel 2000w Hairdryer
This compact dryer has all the great power and performance of a full size dryer, with a folding handle that makes it easy to pop in your suitcase when you're jetting off on holiday.
With a 2000 watt airflow it gives fast drying results, along with 2 heat/speed settings that allow you to tailor it to suit your style. The concentrator nozzle is ideal when you want to spend more time perfecting your look for a professional finish.
This travel hairdryer also includes storage pouch and a multi-voltage design for complete versatility, giving give fast drying results at home or abroad.
- 2000w power
- 2 heat/speed settings
- Folding handle
- Multi-voltage
- Concentrator nozzle
- Storage pouch
- 3 year guarantee
- BaByliss 5344U Travel 2000w Hairdryer
BaByliss 7475U Super Clipper
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BaByliss For Men 7475U Super Clipper
The precise angle means the Japenese steel blades effortlessly cut through longer hair to keep your beard looking smart. The fine cut adjustment taper control ensures a high-quality, even finish too with 8 clipper cutting guides so you can vary the length to suit your style.
The lightweight body works with the cordless design to give you complete freedom as you trim, along with the option to use it corded for continually high power.
It takes only 3 hours to charge and offer 75 minutes of continued use, along with a quick 30 minute charge that allows for half an hour of battery when you need a quick trim.
The left and right ear taper comb guides give a precise finish without any unwanted cuts, while the cleaning brush and oil ensure you can keep it in top condition. There's also a handy storage pouch included.
- Japanese steel blades
- Precise angle
- Fine cut adjustment taper control
- Lightweight body
- Use corded or cordless
- 3 Hour full charge = 75 minutes
- 30 Minutes quick charge = approximately 30 minutes
- 8 Clipper cutting guides, grades 1-8
- Left and right ear taper comb guides
- Cleaning brush
- Lubricating oil
- Storage pouch
- 5 year guarantee
- BaByliss For Men 7475U Super Clipper


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The East Coast Greenway is a vast public works project that is creating a transportation infrastructure for cyclists and pedestrians along the Eastern Seabord. It is akin to the Interstate Highway System. Estimated build-out for the spine route is $3 billion. The East Coast Greenway Alliance (ECGA) is the driving not-for-profit force behind the Greenway, mobilizing leaders from the municipal to the federal level to invest in the project's completion.
Making the Greenway is an enormous partnership undertaking. The ECGA provides the leadership and coordination to ensure continuity and a consistent product, based on Alliance routing criteria. This is both a top-down and a bottom-up trail building process. It depends for its success on direction by the Alliance, federal financial support, and the involvement of hundreds of state and local government agencies, trail advocates, and other non-profit organizations.
While huge in scope and scale, creation of the Greenway is happening incrementally, one segment at a time. It will take decades to achieve the ECGA goal of a mostly off-road Greenway. Currently, and for many years to come, portions of the route temporarily follow roads that link the completed trail sections together and enable public use. We consider the on-road sections of the trail interim and continue to work to move them onto traffic-free right-of-way since our vision is for the ECG to be entirely off-road and traffic-free.
We approach our work with both determination and patience, knowing that the Appalachian Trail was largely on road for many decades and is achieving a fully secured off-road right-of-way only after 80 years of diligence. We acknowledge the long-term nature of this trail-making project. The East Coast Greenway Alliance is committed to working to achieve a 95% traffic-free route by 2030.
Spearheading this project is the East Coast Greenway Alliance , a non-profit headquartered in North Carolina that champions the ECG vision and provides overall coordination. The Alliance staff, Board of Trustees, Trail Council, and state committees each play a critical role in advancing the ECG vision.
The Alliance works to ensure continuity and a consistent quality of route by establishing a clear vision and orchestrating an advocacy effort to build the support for this vision. Our state committees provide the advocacy at the state and local levels with the Alliance board and staff supporting their efforts. The Alliance also builds support from federal agencies and national partner organizations, and coordinates a broad communications effort to increase awareness of the ECG vision. Where no local trail projects are underway, the Alliance assumes responsibility for establishing new trail projects.
The ECG is made up of four regions for planning and operational purposes:
New England: Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut
Mid-Atlantic: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Washington, DC
South Atlantic: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Southeast: Georgia, Florida
The Alliance board is the body charged with establishing the Greenway through a formal designation process. The board first approves the route corridor, which experiences some changes from time to time through a "designation" process and then the inclusion of specific completed trail as part of the ECG trail system. New trails are nominated by ECGA state committees, field checked by volunteers or staff against established criteria, brought to our Trail Council for review, and finally approved by the Alliance Board of Trustees .
The Alliance also plays a proactive role in defining new off-road route. While many sections of the Greenway are initiated as local trails, there are many portions of the route that will depend on the Alliance to determine a way to them bring off-road. 27% of the corridor still remains to be defined, and it will be up to the Alliance to make that happen.
Because this trail is a hard-surface facility, it does not lend itself to the kind of hands-on trail making by volunteers on back-country, soft-surface trails. There is some opportunity for that during the initial stages of cleaning up a given corridor, such as an abandoned rail line. Generally, we depend on professional design and construction to build our hard-surface route, which is done by local or state organizations. The Alliance does not build trail.
A great deal of the proposed route is already in public ownership, so only limited acquisition of right-of-way is needed, but that will undoubtedly be expensive and, in some cases, challenging.
Trail construction is usually organized by local or state agencies or volunteers. Here, a boardwalk and road connections are being built on the White Oak Creek Greenway in Cary, NC.
The funds to acquire, plan, and build the Greenway come chiefly from federal transportation monies that flow to the states and localities, usually via Metropolitan Planning Organizations (MPOs) for dispersal through both earmarks and programs like Enhancements, Recreational Trails, and Congestion Mitigation. Matching funds come from state and local governments and in-kind sources.
We estimate the full cost of our spine route at $2.1 billion in further investment, based on a cost of $1 million per mile, including the more costly infrastructure of bridges and tunnels. Such an investment will create thousands of jobs throughout the eastern seaboard. While complete records on the funding already allocated to and/or spent on the Greenway have not yet been compiled, it totals over $700 million to-date.
While still heavily involved in trail development, the Alliance's role is beginning to shift into marketing the Greenway for use. Initially, we have focused on making cue sheets, user maps and guides, and posting trail markers and informational kiosks along the route. We will also package travel itineraries for the model sections where much trail is complete, like our New York City Weekend Trip Planner. This will encourage families and others to get out and experience the Greenway on day or weekend trips or longer excursions. Eventually, the Alliance will promote use of the ECG and the network of linking routes as a vast travel network, via both our web and printed materials, but also using interactive kiosks planted along the route, cell phones, and other emerging technologies.
The Alliance does not own any portion of the Greenway and will not directly maintain or manage it. The trails that constitute the Greenway are owned and managed by local public bodies: state, county, and municipal agencies.
The Alliance plays a role in ensuring that the condition of this route is maintained. We monitor trail conditions to ensure long-distance users of consistency in fundamental trail quality. We will work to support the budget requests by local trail-managing agencies to ensure adequate maintenance levels. A longer-range goal is to secure the resources to establish a trail endowment. We could then make grants to local trails to provide the revenues needed to deal with emergencies or to embellish the trail with amenities, including public art.
The Alliance works through our 16 state committees who coordinate route selection and undertake our advocacy efforts to move the agenda ahead within each state. They bring hundreds of volunteers into the process of trail making. By building support from both citizens and public agencies at the local and state levels, they provide the legitimacy for this project.
Were it not for the civic energy behind scores of local trail projects, assembling the Greenway would a much more speculative goal. Virtually every community along our route is involved in developing bikepaths and multi-user trails, some of which will serve as sections of our route. Examples are the Eastern Trail Alliance in Maine, the Farmington Canal Rail to Trail Association and the Merritt Parkway Trail Alliance in Connecticut, and Triangle Rails-to-Trails Conservancy in North Carolina. This trail movement involves thousands of additional volunteers indirectly in the making of the Greenway. In many cases, the local trail advocacy organizations evolve into friends of the trail groups and continue working for the maintenance of these local trails. An excellent example is the Friends of Anne Arundel County Trails in Maryland.
The Greenway is being built and will be owned and managed by public agencies, chiefly municipal and county governments, but also by state and to a very limited extent by federal agencies. Their commitment to these local trails is evidence of the value of trails for their communities and to their economies.
Meeting and summits, such as this ECG summit in North Carolina, bring advocates and government officials together with ECGA staff to plan the Greenway. Photo: Matt Hayes.
In 1999, the ECG was designated a National Millennium Trail, a program administered by USDOT. However, it is not part of the National Trail System administered by the Department of Interior under the National Trails Act passed by Congress in 1968. The Alliance aspires to be included within the National Trail System at some point, but is currently focusing its resources on getting the trail built. To that end, federal transportation dollars funneled through state and local governments are paying for much of the cost of building the Greenway. In addition, the Greenway has received substantial support from the National Park Service through its Rivers, Trails and Conservation Assistance Program, mainly in the form of technical assistance for local trail projects but also through limited but important direct financial support to the Alliance.
The Alliance works closely with scores of other organizations who have a stake in the Greenway's realization. Some of our key partners are:
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The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) has put out a call for nominations to acknowledge those who are demonstrating excellence in the general aviation community.
Call for nominations for GA industry excellence awards
Foundation awards scholarship
The National Air Transportation Foundation (NATF) has named the first winner of its new Navigate Your Future Scholarship: Sebastian Perez, an upcoming freshman at Broward College in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
New president for NATA
The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) has named Thomas L. Hendricks as the association's new president. He succeeds James K. Coyne, who has served as NATA's president since 1994. Hendricks will start his duties on Sept. 1.
New general aviation scholarship debuts
The National Air Transportation Foundation (NATF) now offers the $2,500 Navigate Your Future scholarship, offered to a graduating high school student continuing his or her education in the general aviation industry.
Compensation survey now available
The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) has published the results of its 2012 survey of salaries and benefits for pilots, line-service personnel, and maintenance technicians, but you have to buy the report to get all the details.
Scholarship recipients revealed
The National Air Transportation Foundation (NATF) has chosen the winners of its Dan L. Meisinger Sr. Memorial Learn to Fly Scholarship, Pioneers of Flight Scholarship and NATA Business Scholarship.
New leadership for NATA
At its recent annual membership meeting, the National Air Transportation Association (NATA) announced the selection of James Sweeney, president of Fargo Jet Center, as chairman of the NATA Board of Directors and Marian H. Epps, chief financial officer of Epps Aviation, as treasurer effective immediately. Sweeney replaces Todd Duncan, chairman, Duncan Aviation, and Epps replaces Robert "Buddy" Stallings, president, Eastern Aviation Fuels, Inc.
GA visits Capitol Hill
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Agreement for general aviation security renewed
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) recently approved a five-year extension of its partnership with National Air Transportation Association Compliance Services (NATACS) to provide security in the general aviation sector.
NATA raises funds for combat wounded
General aviation alphabet group the National Air Transportation Association (NATA) has partnered with Veterans Airlift Command (VAC) to raise funds for their mission supporting our combat wounded. VAC is a charitable organization that provides free air transportation to wounded warriors, veterans, and their families for medical and other compassionate purposes. NATA and VAC established a special fund last year, NATA Wings for Warriors, to contribute to the organization. This year, NATA's support of VAC has been expanded throughout all of the association's major 2012 events.


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Commentary: HRC at Sunday's Immigration Rally
March 23, 2010
The following post on HRC's involvement in this weekend's comprehensive immigration reform rally and march is from HRC Chief Diversity Officer Cuc Vu.
On Sunday, March 21, 2010, members and supporters of the Human Rights Campaign joined hundreds of organizations to March for America and to call on Congress and President Obama to fix our country's broken immigration system. With the Latino GLBT History Project, Immigration Equality, Unid@s and the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, HRC stood with our LGBT brothers and sisters also to draw attention to equal immigration rights for LGBT families. The largest LGBT contingent was the Rainbow Riders, who filled 27 buses from Chicago, New York, New Jersey and New England. They were almost 1,500 strong! Other LGBT groups also attended, including the National Queer Asian Pacific Islander Alliance, but the crowd was so big that finding each other proved to be a difficult task. As a DC resident for almost 16 years, I've participated in a lot of marches and rallies and I've seen turnout ambitions fulfilled and fallen short. Organizers of the March for America projected turnout of 100,000 people, but actual turnout exceeded 250,000 by my estimate, filling 7 city blocks from 7th & Madison all the way to the Washington Monument. As I walked back to my car in the late afternoon, there were still more busloads of participants walking down 14th and 15th Streets NW to join the crowd on the Mall. Some of the buses were filled with passengers who had traveled as much as 24 hours to make their voices heard from as far away as Miami. The event was rightfully billed as the largest political mobilization since President Obama's inauguration. The crowd included many US flags and a few flags representing the country of origin for different groups. Handmade signs included "No Human Being is Illegal," "We Work for America," and "Workers, Taxpayers, Voters for Reform." From the stage, Marcela Aguilar Gonzales and her partner Ana spoke about being a lesbian couple from Guatemala and Mexico. They spoke passionately, saying that they are Latina lesbians, they are here, and they are not going into the shadows. After they spoke, nearly every speaker on the stage incorporated LGBT people into their remarks. President Obama addressed the crowd through a videotaped message, saying he would work to forge a bipartisan consensus on immigration reform this year. Several members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus joined the call for action. It was important for LGBT immigrants, supporters and our families to be visible because we are a part of the immigrant community, a fact that is often brushed aside in the immigration debate. Without this visibility and constant work to be included in policy and legislative discussions around comprehensive immigration reform, particularly the Uniting American Families Act (UAFA), our LGBT families will remain unequal. But passing UAFA, a bill that would allow US citizens to sponsor their same-sex partners for immigration benefits, is only one piece of achieving equality for LGBT people. As advocates of social justice, it's important for us to also stand up for the rights of the 12 million undocumented people who are our neighbors, colleagues and allies because they are the most vulnerable among us. In an Advocate piece, Kerry Eleveld estimates that the 12 million undocumented people in the US includes roughly 600,000 LGBT people. Lastly, it was important for LGBT immigrants and supporters to be at the March for America because we are at the front lines bridging the gaps that exist between the LGBT community and communities of color - gaps that make our efforts to win equality that much more difficult. In our LGBT contingent alone, we had people from Mexico, Viet Nam, the Bahamas, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Poland, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Philippines, China, Nigeria, and many more countries. After yesterday's historic march, HRC will continue to work with our partners to demand legislative action for immigration reform. For a list of the speakers at the rally who called for comprehensive immigration reform, check out the Reform Immigration For America blog here.
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Below are some poems sent in by readers for you to enjoy!!!
This poem was sent in by Ashlynn Phillips of Coweta, Oklahoma. It's her poem inspired by New Moon.
What do you do ?
What do you say ?
What do you do what do you say when you don't like him that way?
Jessica makes fun of you.
Charlie says what are we gonna do do do with you .
You go to your room and say hay hay hay.
What do you do?
What do you say?
What do you do what do you say when you don't like him that way?
You finally go to sleep you wake up and weep.
Its gonna be okay okay okay .
So what do you do ?
What do you say ?
What do you do what do you say when you don't like him that way?
You just let it all play out .
Cause with out a doubt .
It will work out !
This was sent in by Mariel Angelica Sabe from the Philippines. It's inspired by New Moon.
Here I am loving you still
This love is making me ill
Loving you is not against my will
But why am I all alone here standing still?
Didn't you promised me the same?
That both of us would take the blame..
All you boys are just the same
Leaving us girls to face all the shame..
I become so weak when I think of you
I suddenly don't know what to do
Oh how I wish I could redo
erase all my memories with you
Everyday I wake up thinking
That a piece of my heart is still missing
But I still keep on trying
To forget our love story's unhappy ending
Letting him go was not easy
As we said our goodbyes I felt dizzy
Being all alone is crazy
This feeling makes me lazy
Even though he caused me pain..
My love for him will still remain..
I won't forget the person who made me feel insane
Of this thing called love which I could never regain.
This New Moon inspired poem was sent in by Nicole.
I hurt myself
because you're gone
and in this night
I can't see dawn.
The pain is proof
that you were here.
your love has left-
you've disappeared.
There's this hole
inside of me.
it pins me down-
I can't get free.
You were the moon
that filled my sky
but now it's empty
and I want to die.
I hate that I'm weak.
I can't make you stay.
Without you my life
has drifted away.
Inside I am empty
but I pretend I'm not
it feels good to be numb
I wish for it a lot.
I just can?t help
Trying to hold on
But we both know
You?re already gone.
Here is a New Moon Inspired Poem sent in by one of our readers, Selina!
Enjoy! It is really good!!
The Graphic is by reader Margi!!!
New Moon
I'm being ripped apart
My world is falling down
He left me
Because he was not happy
So now my heart is broken
The days pass by
Without seeing you
I wallow in pain
They see it in my eyes
I need him back
Before I die
But then something happened
I didn't hurt as much
This boy from La Push
Is helping stitch me up
The months pass by
And I'm halfway heeled
But there will always be a hole
In what he didn't want
But what's this?
Alice is here!
I cry with cheer
That a Cullen is here
But something is wrong, I can see it in her eyes
Rosalie said something and Edward is going to die
Alice said there is not much time
I must make a dicition before the time dies
We rush to the airport
To save my true love
But what will happen
When the clock strucks twelve?
I rush through a crowd
In Volterra
The sun is high
Edward might die
I see him in the dark
Looking lifeless as I,
I tumble into him
And he says "Heaven"
I try to push him back
Into the dark
But then we see
Two men in black
Edward holds me tight to his back
A little girl comes
To lead us down under
It is cold and wet
But that doesn't matter
I'm with him, Edward
For now but not forever
What will happen
When we get back
I saved his life
But he won't want me back
The hole will get bigger
And time will pass
But I'll always love him
When time passes
We're on a plane
I saved him!
Now we'll let fate dicide
Wheather or not
Our lives will be tied
But he stays
And asks for forgiveness
But is this a dream
Or is this real
He takes my hands
And kisses my forehead
I have an idea!
And we're runnng in the forest
The Cullens vote for my immortality
Edward says no
Esme says yes
Rosalie says no
But wait
Let me explain
I would not have chosen this life for me
I'll give you a chance
To have pure glee
Jasper says yes
Emmett says "Hell, yeah!"
And Carlisle has the diciding vote
He votes yes
I thank them for their time
And say "let's take it out back"
Edward says "NO!"
With a protective stance
Carlisle says "after gradulation"
And Edward agrees
He takes me home
For maybe
The rest of eternity.
One of our readers, Ruth, from the Philippines sent in these poems she wrote inspired by the books Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse. They are very pretty poems. I hope you all enjoy!!!
Twilight Poem
Hear out my tortured soul
For I have nowhere else to go
You captured my dead, frozen heart
Now yours and mine'll never be apart
You took my breath away
And in my heart you'll always stay
You are my life now
Believe me, for this I vow
My brave and trusting love
From the heavens above
I'll do everything for you
And I'll always be true
When you called out my name
My life had never been the same
You kept my feet on the ground
'Cause my purpose had been found
Your chocolate brown eyes
Are honest and wise
Through them I could see
How you irrevocably love me
New Moon Poem
My Sun, this I can't believe
Now you're gone, how can I live?
You said, "You are my life now."
But you have broken your vow
My love, life, meaning, they're finished
I wish I could be diminished
The pain is excruciating
There's just no reason for living
I have shattered into pieces
I've been longing for your kisses
I want your arms wrapped around me
Sadly, these things can never be
Who can mend my broken heart,
Stitch it back and make it start
He's no more than my best friend
And it's not his work to mend
Nothing can ever be done
My prince is forever gone
I will always shed these tears
That will be falling for years
Eclipse Poem
I am being cut in half
Just wish that I could still laugh
Why is this happening to me?
They're wasting their lives for me
I only have my life to give
So he would never ever leave
But a part of me's still missing
And I don't know what's this feeling
Will I ever get to choose?
Or will I just die and lose?
It tortures me just to think
That I don't even what to blink
I realized I love him, too
But it's not enough to be true
I hope he'll get better again
So someday I'll be called his friend
Why can't I avoid these heartbreaks?
This is something selfishness makes
I don't want to hurt anyone
But I won't bear it if they're gone
It is too much for one person
Wanting is not a good reason
I couldn't force both sides of me
'Cause I could only set one free
I know who I can't live without
And I know it without a doubt
I have chosen eternity
The past's behind, I'm breaking free
Elissa sent me this awesome poem she wrote that is posted on her blog, http://twilightinrhyme.blogspot.com. It tells the story of Twilight all in rhyme. I posted it earlier, but in case you missed it you can read it here.
Well now she has done the same thing for New Moon on her blog.
It's pretty long so I just put the first part here to give you a taste. Click the READ MORE button below to read it all.
I think it's pretty Sweet!!!
Warning: There are a couple of curse words in it, but only a couple!
Thanks for sharing Elissa!!!
New Moon Rhyming: The Saga Continues
What happens when forever ends too soon?
The angst continues and it's called New Moon.
The second book of the saga by Stephenie Meyer,
Brings werewolves into the mix with humans and vampires.
But before this recap gets into all the sad and sullen
Let's scream or smile at the mere mention of Edward Cullen!!!!!
Bella and Eddie were still going steady a few months after Twilight,
Crazy in love and all of that stuff – but she still couldn't get him to bite
She wants to be transformed but he's repeatedly told her,
He's not making her a vampire – she'll just keep getting older
Read more..
Elissa sent me this awesome poem she wrote that is posted on her blog, http://twilightinrhyme.blogspot.com. It tells the story of Twilight all in rhyme. You guys have to check this out.
It's pretty long so I just put the first part here to give you a taste. Click the READ MORE button below to read it all.
Thanks for sharing Elissa!!!
Twilight: The Saga Begins…In Ryhme
For the Twi-hard fans of Twilight, it seems like a good time,
To chronicle the chronicles of the saga in rhyme.
Here's Stephanie Meyer's series, recapped and summarized,
Starting with the 1st book (& movie) that fans have immortalized
At the beginning of Twilight we meet Isabella Swan,
Our seventeen year old heroine who has got her "emo" on
Moving from Renee in Arizona to live with Charlie in Forks,
Bella hopes to slip in unnoticed and hide among the other dorks
But much to her dismay, at school she's clearly the hot new dish,
In fact, one Edward Cullen thinks that she would be delish!
Twilight and New Moon Pictures
This poem was sent in by our reader Lyn_Cullen. She is 23 and from Germany!!
You left me here alone
Without telling me where you´re going
You said this all went wrong
But my desire is steadily growing.
Cannot find you despite seeking
Nearly letting go my mind
Wondering if I could have changed it
Or if love has made me blind.
I need your help
But you´re not there
You walked away
This wasn´t fair
I cannot claim that you come back
So my world has turned to black
This all just happened awful fast
After it life wasn´t the same
The most annoying thing about
I don´t know who to blame.
Cruel to agree it hurt me bad
Always thought that I am strong
Misjudged myself, nearly despair
Forgot where I belong
I need your help
But you´re not there
You walked away
This wasn´t fair
I cannot claim that you come back
So my world has turned to black
I had to lose what I loved most
While standing in the rain
Instead of crawling after you
I let you go in pain
New Moon Movie and New Moon Merchandise
The next poem is by Abby. Here is what she had to say, "I made this acrostic poem about how much I luv Twilight."
I Heart Twilight
It's action packed.
Like the books,
Hooray for
Eclipse Movie and Breaking Dawn
Here are some poems sent to us by our reader Savannah from Germany.
Enjoy the poems!!
First One:
he loved her
he left her
she cryed
he thought she died
she came
he took the blame
he's trying to make her sane
they left
they voted
and now shes devoted
and so he says
"i'm here, i'm here with you."
and thats what i quoted.
Second Poem:
new moon i am poem
i am heart broken
i wonder if he really meant it
i hear his voice
i see him gone forever
i want him back
i am heart broken
i pretend he will be in my room when i wake
i feel like that wont happen
i touch the empty spot where his picture once was
i worry i will be alone
i cry because he is gone
i am heart broken
i understand what he did was for my own good
i say i am okay
i dream the scene when he left
i try to think of other people
i hope i will forget
i am heart broken
This poem was sent in by our reader Zoila. Her is what she had to say about the poem, "I wrote this poem from Bella's perspective & how she feels about Edward."
I really like it. Hope you enjoy!!!
Bella's Love
Fire vs. Ice, Fur vs. Stone.
But there is no competition. I know where my heart belongs.
Skin that's too hot vs. Skin that's too cold.
To try to break our unbreakable bond, he must be bold.
I don't care if he can make me warm while the cold win blows.
Because in my sleep I speak your name & this I know, you know.
It is tough though, losing a friend. But I'm gaining so much more.
Gaining a love that I never knew existed until I moved here to Forks.
I saw you walk into the cafeteria, the absolute meaning of beauty.
& I'm happy you couldn't read my thoughts, that you couldn't see through me.
He's sweet, he's nice, some people say he's the sensible path. But I'm happy with the one I've taken.
The one who makes me quiver & smile. The one whose heart I won't be breaking.
A perfect match. The lion & his lamb. Opposites surely do attract.
Because you're the only one I'll ever want & I'll never take that back…
This Poem was sent in by Siva. It's all about the Volturi Vampires. Enjoy!!
New Moon Poem
We are but gods in our world
We are the ones that you obey
The ones that you fear
We are the black cloaked ones
From your deepest nightmares
We are the royalty of our world
We are the ones you bow down to
The ones you listen to
We are the black cloaked ones
From your deepest nightmares
We are saints in their world
We are the ones the celebrate
The ones they wear red for
We are the black cloaked ones
From your deepest nightmares
We are the ones who control our world
We are the ones that punish our world
The ones who destroy them
We are the black cloaked ones
From your deepest nightmares
Oh dearest Bella Swan
You are but a human
Who knows not only about us
But too much about us
You have two choices too make
Join us,
Or leave us
The decision is not just yours
But also your precious Cullen's
I am sure my dear friend Carlisle
Will choose wisely
Oh dearest Bella Swan
I would enjoy human life
While it lasts
We will be back
Don't forget about it
We can just show up,
At anytime,
La Tua Cantante
What a waste of a life
The Twilight Saga: Poem
Always bloodthirsty.
The secret he must keep away.
Protecting his love.
To much knowledge shared,
turns his truth, to horrible lies.
Breaking his true love.
The bonds grow stronger.
The past becomes an open box.
Petrifying Love.
A life at hard risk.
Bonds two unfriendly forces.
Forever in Love.
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i got this from a friend of mine for free becuase he had just gotten an iphone 4s (hes not an audiophile) so he gave me this. I was gratefull ofcourse and i decided to try it out instead of my sansa. the sansa wins easily, the ipod sounds meh, not very accurate and the bass is uneven/rumbly. i then traded this for an ipod 5.5 which i rockboxed later on and now i am happy.


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December 13, 2006
This question is for women who have used online dating : What are your most common reasons for breaking off an email exchange with a man who you met through online dating? Also, once you have given the man your phone number, and he calls you, what are your most common reasons for not returning the phone call?
My question about breaking off email exchanges pertains to the following situations :
1) Where you sent the initial email, but eventually stopped returning his emails.
2) Where the man sent the initial email, but you responded at least once.
My question about not returning phone calls pertains to the following situation - you've emailed back and forth a few times (or IMed with each other), and you've given him your phone number. He calls you, but you do not call him back.
Both of these situations are pretty confounding, because, as the man, you never get any explanation of what you did wrong, and don't know what to do in the future to avoid the same fate.
However, the unreturned phone call is probably the most confounding situation of all. If she likes me enough to give me her number, why wouldn't she call me back when I call her? Are my voicemail messages really that bad? Or are women just fickle like that? Should I even bother trying to contact her again, or should I just give up?
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I'd say most of the time it's probably because they just don't feel a connection for one reason or another. It's probably not worth trying to find out the exact reason, because it's so subjective.
As for not returning calls, maybe she has realised she is uncomfortable with the prospect of meeting men this way, or has met someone else.
Either way, people really ought to be direct. But that being said, just give it a limit (say three unreturned calls or two weeks) and let it go.
No, women are not "just fickle like that." Believing in generalisations like that definitely won't help you find someone.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
"She's just not that into you."
Seriously. it could be any number of things, from perceived poor table manners to a misplaced comma to her being too busy to lack of connection to lack of common interests to you're-a-cat-person-she's-a-dog-person.
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It's been a bit since I've done online dating, but I imagine not much has changed. If I were to all of a sudden not email or not return a call, in any situation, it's probably because either I just determined things weren't going to work for some reason (possibly just a feeling without concrete evidence) and I didn't have the guts to say so or because someone else I was emailing with at the same time turned out to be a better option.
As for not returning a phone call after giving my number...well, for me, voice might have a lot to do with it. It's a big turn on or turn off, so...
In my mind, online dating is kind of a loose area. It's sometimes easier (though of course not necessarily better) to just stop contacting the other person if I think things aren't going to work out. No, it's not very nice. But it's my opinion.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
There's as many different reasons as there are individual women, and individual men.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
If she likes me enough to give me her number, why wouldn't she call me back when I call her?
She doesn't necessarily give you the number because she likes you. It's like a fake smile: It's easier than saying, "I don't think this is going to work out," which opens cans of worms.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
There's as many different reasons as there are individual women, and individual men.
Of course. But the reasons cluster. Maybe you are a unique snowflake in this, but the people on either side of you aren't.
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I often have a hard time just saying "No" when someone asks me for my phone number flat out. It seems horrendously rude, and it can be easier to give it out with the expectation that I'll never return the guy's calls than it is to invent an excuse that sounds both plausible and polite on the spot. While in the overall scheme of things it's not polite to leave a guy's calls unanswered, either, there's something kind of deer-in-headlights about trying to say "no" to the number request. I think it's because it's just such a fact-based question that refusing to answer it seems hideously mean.
This obviously only applies if you have asked for the number. If she's given it out to you without your having asked, then something else is going on.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
never get any explanation of what you did wrong, and don't know what to do in the future to avoid the same fate.
You may not have done anything "wrong"; there's no magic behavior formula that makes women fall for you. There may just have been no spark. Things may have heated up with somebody else. If you haven't even met yet, maybe she's changed her mind about the safety of personals and online dating. Maybe she's crazy. Lots of possibilities.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
If I stop emailing or don't return a phone call, it's because something made me lose interest. It could be something the guy said that turned me off, or it could be that I got busy or met someone else. Basically, everything
said goes for me, too.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
well, for me, voice might have a lot to do with it. It's a big turn on or turn off, so...
I figured that this might be the case in some situations. If you don't mind my asking, what makes a voicemail bad or good?
posted by
on December 13, 2006
"She doesn't necessarily give you the number because she likes you. It's like a fake smile"
Wow, that's pathetic. I'm not going to disagree with you because you're absolutely right, but the fact that it happens is pretty lame. I wish that more people were just up front and honest about their feelings. I've been rejected on online dating sites more times than I can remember. The very rare women that wrote back and told me WHY they weren't interested got a reply from me thanking them for being honest and wishing them good luck. (the biggies? I have long hair, and I am child-free. On match.com in particular, the kid thing is a huge dealbreaker.)
keno: this doesn't just happen in the online dating arena, it's been happening for many many years. Give her a call, leave a message, and if you don't hear back, call her once more a few days (4-6) later. If she doesn't respond, tear up the number, throw it away, and move on. Last thing you want is someone thinking your stalking them or something.
All you can say is that you tried. Don't take it personally. It's probably not something that's wrong with you anyway. Keep your chin up and move on.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Oh, and before anyone jumps down my throat, I followed my own advice a few years ago and met the most wonderful woman ever, and we've been together ever since.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
voicemail good: upbeat, straightforward, short. No "um", no squeekiness, no agressiveness. Practice several times before calling. I would never pick up the phone when someone would call me, because the quality of their message determined whether or not they got a call-back.
"Hi, this is _________, that man from (dating site). Give me a call back when you get a chance at (number). Looking forward to speaking with you." [click]
Say nothing else. And then wait for her to call back. Even if it takes a week. Calling more than once without a return is a no-no when you are just getting to know someone. I think with email, you can email twice without getting a return.
Met my current bf (and the last one, a 2-year relationship) through online dating. I think it's a great way to meet people. Just try to stay upbeat, and be as involved as possible in friends/activities not having to do with dating. Appearing to have more than 2 friends and more than 2 activities on your calandar make you seem normal and fun. It's possible--and advisable--to avoid emiting the scent of neediness while at the same time not being an asshole. There's no need to wait three days before calling after a date or any of that sort of goofiness. Good luck!
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on December 13, 2006
I met my current boyfriend through a dating site but I had to sort through a lot of weirdos and creeps before I met him (not to imply that you are a weirdo or a creep). While I was dating/meeting people on the internet I felt like I had to be very careful and protect myself (which people should do) but it made me very paranoid too. The slightest reference to sex usually made me break off communication, not because I am a prude but there were tons of pervs who immediately started in with it. It was as if just posting an ad meant I was going to immediately jump into bed with the first guy who emailed me. Some guys I'm sure were just flirting (non-aggressively) but it just raised my guard enough that I wouldn't meet anyone who triggered the caution switch. This was just my experience which may have no relation to your situation so good luck with the search.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
It's been a while since I did online dating, but when I did the men were banging down the doors, practically, to get my attention.
If someone said something inappropriate or I didn't feel a spark, either after phone or e-mail conversation, it was over. If I didn't like his personality, his feelings about vegetarianism or politics, his stories about his family, his writing style, his photo, his voice, his questions, or the reasons that he might be interested in me, there were plenty of other men out there that might provide a better match.
When I met my husband, I found his first e-mail to be so insightful that I sent him my phone number right away, as well as a time and date that would be best to call. When he called, we talked for more than an hour. When we went out a week later, we hit it off. But if he hadn't seemed smart or insightful from the beginning, I guess I wouldn't be so happy now.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
When I tried internet dating, I took non-response from men as a loss of interest in me or that they had simply met someone who interested them more and moved on. You mustn't take it personally and remember that most women who post ads online get a hefty amount of responses (relative to the amount men will get) they must sort through, so her attention is not focused solely on you. I never felt obligated to respond to everyone who sent me messages, especially when a lot of the messages sent seemed so cut and paste spammy.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Usually if I give a guy my phone number, I won't answer the first time he calls, for exactly the reasons mentioned above: want to hear his voice, how he speaks, what he says. Those things matter and I assume that hearing my outgoing message gives him some clue about me as well. But I don't think I've ever given my phone number to a guy that I
want to call me. i just want to hear him before I talk to him. I'll usually call back or send an email "sorry i missed you, try again at xx o'clock."
As for emails, sometimes it's something specific about what the guy said, sometimes it's just a feeling that you're not on the same wavelength, sometimes it's just that my focus has turned to some other suitor. When, after a few back and forths that dwindled off, I've gotten emails a that say "Hey, what happened? Are you still interested?" I generally write back and say that I've decided we aren't a good match.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
As mentioned previously, there isn't a blanket reason that covers all women and all situations. It's hard to do, but try not to personalize this so much. Rejection is never easy, but in one respect, you are one step closer to finding the woman that does want to call you back. And if you are ever in the reverse situation, treat others how you want to be treated.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
In the online dating scene, the part the guy doesn't see is how many other guys the girl is communicating with as well as themselves. When I still had an online dating account, I usually had two or three guys on the go at any given time. There is always a fair amount of competition. Even IMing them you are probably sharing her attention with other suitors talking to her at the same time. Loss of communication is usually due to a transfer of interest to someone else. You probably don't do something wrong per say, just that someone else did something more right.
If email exchanges have dropped off, it is polite to email a 'hey havn't heard from you in a while' and then see what, if any, response you get. Sometimes it is a deliberate ignore, other times it might just be carlessness. I lost touch with a guy once because I forgot who had sent the last email, and was in fact, waiting for him to write to me.
On the topic of phone numbers, I would actually say its worth changing tactics and supplying -your- phone number to see if she calls you. I was very very flattered when a guy offered me his number instead of repeatedly pestering me for mine. He got his requested face to face meeting, and I got a husband out of the deal.
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on December 13, 2006
Thanks to everyone who has been giving specific answers.
I know that Everybody's Different, It's Not My Fault, You Just Didn't Feel a Connection, and that I Should Just Be Myself. However, that sort of answer doesn't really help me at all.
I'm looking for specifics here. Why did *you* break off the email exchange? Why didn't *you* return that phone call?
Yes, I realize that there's no right or wrong way to go about online dating. However, sometimes, as a guy, you make mistakes, and wind up giving the wrong impression of yourself. This is what I'm trying to avoid doing.
The voicemail thing is a perfect example - I had no idea it was so important to so many women! To be honest, I really could care less about how a woman's voicemail messages sound. In fact, I take it as a given that calling someone for the first time is awkward, and tend to cut them a lot of slack. Since voicemail messages aren't important to me, I never really thought much about the ones that I was leaving. I'm sure that I have left plenty of "umms" in my messages.
Anyway, point being, you never get any real feedback from dating other then an unreturned call or email, which is why I'm turning to AskMe and asking for your specific experiences.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
I've had IM/email exchanges with men where at some point they just say something that either offends me or makes me think they're stupid. Since i figure everyone is likely on 'best behaviour' still at the point, I consider that a bad sign.
I once gave someone my phone number online, only because I didn't feel like getting into the conversation (an IM conversation, but still) about why I didn't want to. Or, I've given away the number before I really have any idea if the guy is someone I actually really want to pursue. If i'm busy or stressed or feeling apathetic about online dating on the day he calls, i might not bother to call back.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Ok, I'm a young woman doing OKcupid right now. The reasons I would stop replying to someone in either situation:
1. I'm a procrastinator, and after a week, I feel embarrassed that I'd put it off for so long.
2. He mentions something or says something a certain way that turns me off, so I write him off as an uncouth mouthbreather.
3. The conversation is so fake/meaningless, I feel like a fool keeping up the charade (That just might be me though.)
4. Most often, like above, there's just no spark/connection, and I'm going through the motions out of politeness. So it's meaningless when I just stop replying.
I would never give anyone my phone # through a dating site unless I'd been chatting with them for a looooong time.
And finally, this may be gender-stereotyping, but I do think most women are raised not to be blunt in their rejection of men. So silence/white lies, are their way of sparing the guy's feelings, because women can't bring themselves to say, "You are a boring, creepy nerd--don't ever try to contact me again."
(Also, as an aside, I'm a very late bloomer and have not been involved much in the dating scene, so I do not know anything about this elaborate mating ritual. I've noticed that I try to connect to an online stranger through their interests, while men tend to try to connect with me as an "everywoman." So there's a certain sameness in these online "pickup lines": hey cutie, I like your smile, etc., while I write, "So tell me more about your crossdressing tendencies." Which I guess is also stereotypical: guys decide to IM me based on my photos, while I decide to IM a guy based on looks + personality profile.)
posted by
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There is one stone-cold truth you can take away from this, which, though we are all snowflakes, will help with the vast majority of women:
Stop with the sex talk in the initial contact!
It's uncouth, it's boring, and it is freaking ubiquitous. I threw up my hands on internet dating for this reason. What the hell are these guys thinking? Their USP is -- that they like sex? That's all they got? I mean, yeah, I want to instantly get naked for absolutely any random stranger who contacts me on the internet, but I can only take my clothes off so fast --
topic of conversation might help the time go.
posted by
on December 13, 2006 [
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Online dating is like a mate buffet. You have to keep in mind that you probably aren't the only guy with whom the woman is in contact. She's probably getting so many emails, IM's etc. from so many guys (because that is the way it usually is for woman in dating services) that she probably isn't even paying THAT much attention to you.
And like those gluttons at the buffet who pile their plates up high with food, sit down and then become distracted by all the other options on the buffet that they didn't have room for the first time and will be sampling later, my guess is that these woman just became distracted by other men vying for their attention.
Someone new probably caught her eye before she returned your email and/or call, and she moved on before getting to know you better. It is rude of her not to let you know that she didn't feel enough of a connection to continue chatting with you. It happens.
She just wasn't that into you.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
To be blatantly honest I've dropped guys for the following reasons:
-too serious, too fast
-too sexual, too fast
too obsessive and clingy
, i.e. gets mad when I don't call or e-mail soon enough
-no discernible sense of humor
-values at odds with mine
-treats dating like picking out a major appliance, that is to say he's more interested in my vital statistics than getting to know me as a person
-too boring
-too dumb
-not attracted to them
-voice too feminine
-voice too old
-gut feeling it's not gonna work out
-has the same first name as my brother
-don't share the same interests
-likes the Barenaked Ladies or some other band I hate
-is too pretentious
The guys in question may or may not have been able to change any of these things. It quite likely wouldn't have worked out anyway. There is probably some chick somewhere who would love him just as he is. Possibly several.
Seriously, it could be anything. Don't sweat it and don't obsess. Everybody gets rejected from time to time. It's okay to feel a little down about it for a while but then you've got to let it go.
posted by
Jess the Mess
on December 13, 2006 [
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Reasons I ended potential relationships before they began.
* I realised he was out of my league and would be disappointed in my lack of education, sophistication, whatever.
* I felt our lifestyles were not compatible - eg an invalid pensioner who made lampshades for fun and felt let down that my hair which was shoulder length was not longer.
* He did something that creeped me out, but that either I could not put my finger on it, or it related to a past experience that was unfair to blame on him, but it just made him um unpalatable. Like one guy was the spitting image of my brother and that was just ew.
* He said something that I found was something I was not prepared to accept, but also that I was unwilling to argue (ie bigotry, sexism, racism, sense of entitlement).
* He talked about his gorgeous but insane ex constantly
* He was wishy-washy on a topic that I consider important
* His attention was not on me during our meeting but was constantly checking out other women
* Appalling dental hygene.
So you can imagine with those kind of experiences, my self-esteem might have suffered a wee bit and I didn't find it in me to tell the truth about why I wasn't interested, and I hate to lie. (However, usually, I did).
posted by
on December 13, 2006
I'll give specifics: I'm terrible at correspondence. If an email exchange isn't keeping my attention, I'll forget to respond, even if it's a good friend of mine, but especially if it's a stranger on the internet.
I try to always return phone calls, it just may take me awhile. But I hate talking on the phone, so if someone leaves me a pointless message, like "hey...what's up?...what are you doing?...we should hang out...call me" I would be less likely to make an effort.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Oh, you wanted specific reasons . . .
1. What Lychee said: procrastination
2. What everyone else said: they guy said something in the email that just turned me off. Either talked about living for [insert sports team] (boring!), how badly he wanted children (creepy to mention in initial emails), his ex and/or "just getting back into the dating scene" (do you really need me to explain why?), he mentioned sex or something of a sexual nature, some real-life examples: "nothing makes me hotter than a woman in a short skirt/thong/tight shirt" or "I'm a boob man . . . or maybe an ass man . . it varries. Do you have big boobs" (again, need I explain?), anything nauseatingly romantic (creeeeepy for an initial contact)
3. The guy said something that made me realize that we weren't a match for ideological reasons (ex. he says "I voted for bush and I'd do it again!") or lifestyle reasons (ex. he says "I go to church every sunday")
4. I just got a creepy feeling from the guy, even though I couldn't point to one particular comment.
Now, reasons I wouldn't return a phone call:
1. What Lychee said: procrastination
2. Shyness - I generally have a problem getting up the nerve to call anyone - even friends - because I worry I'll be bothering them or catch them at a bad time
3. I didn't like his voice, he sounded dorky, etc.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Why I broke off email exchanges with various guys:
a) it became apparent that his grasp of grammar was woefully inadequate
b) for some reason I got a "creepy" vibe from him
c) he was unwilling to say much about himself via email, but kept pushing for an in-person meeting (sorry, but I don't want to waste my time if you won't even tell me if we have basic interests in common)
d) he said his favorite non-fiction book was the DaVinci Code
e) sex-talk
too early in the relationship
f) there wasn't anything
, it's just that someone else I was writing seemed to have more relationship-potential (and he did! I married him this summer)
posted by
on December 13, 2006 [
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If I give someone my number and they call me immediately i get skeeved out. I also stop talking to them online at that point because it's rude to give fully mixed signals. I don't really feel bad for blowing people off if they leave insane-sounding aggressive voice mails for me twice a day. (I am a shy person, so probably half the girls out there get turned off if you wait too long to call.)
To be honest, I'm a pretty huge bitch when it comes to rejection. I write a lot of Dear Johns involving ridiculously long metaphors explaining why I think dear John is a giant goiter on society's neck. So becoming silent is kind of a compliment, for me personally.
posted by
on December 13, 2006 [
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When I was doing the online dating thing these are various reasons that I ceased contact with guys:
1. The guy pursued me even after I demurred (I said, "Oh, I'm really too busy to meet up right now," and he responded with, "Looks like I should just start sending flowers to where you work then!" Kinda sweet, but also kinda stalkerish)
2. I got overloaded with responses and couldn't keep up, and the guy took offense and sent me an irate message asking why I wasn't emailing him
3. I met someone awesome and stopped corresponding with everyone else I was speaking with
4. There was just no chemistry
5. There was a vague, creepy vibe
Whenever I felt the least bit uncomfortable with someone I'd stop corresponding immediately. That's a luxury of online dating...if someone creeps you out, you cut them off. In the real world they probably have your phone number or know where you live or where you like to get your books/coffee/drinks so you have to be firmer to get them to leave you alone.
I've also been in a number of situations that left me wondering, "Well, what did I do?" when someone stopped talking with me. Eventually I learned to just move on and find someone who enjoyed talking with me.
And I can vouch for the fact that online dating does work, since I met my husband (drezdn) on OK Cupid.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
1. he makes any mention of sex, even a mild "innocent" joke (most men have learned not to do this, so it is basically an intelligence test)
2. he fails to provide requested proof of identification as a real person!
3. procrastination on my part; it is physically impossible to reply to everyone
4. he can't formulate a coherent sentence (how will he proofread for me?)
5. he asks trite questions with obvious answers (makes #3 highly likely because I'm prejudiced that stupid people are more likely to become stalkers)
6. he asks uninteresting questions I wouldn't have any fun answering (makes #3 highly likely)
7. he asks questions I don't have time to answer (makes #3 highly likely)
8. instead of needing to ask questions, he is obviously PSYCHIC and delivers deep, ruminative insights into what kind of a person I am and why he and this person would be perfect together (making #3 more likely because I would rather verify with HippieShack78 that I am in fact deathly afraid of motorcycles; it was not a joke)
9. instead of asking questions, he is God's Gift to Womankind and already knows that he is exactly what I want; now it is my job to impress him (making #3 more likely because I am having too much fun telling JoeBlow499 about my favorite type of breakfast cereal)
10. instead of asking questions, he takes his paycheck as an indication of his understanding of human nature and delivers translucent sales pitches implying what kind of a person I am and how he can give that person whatever she wants (making #3 more likely because I'd rather explore a job offer at BluerEyes4U's brokerage firm or see if SoandSO77 will let me take photos of the data center)
6. he offers me a romantic vacation, most commonly involving a situation alone with him in the middle of a large body of water
7. his sense of humor doesn't appeal to me (many people have learned not to display their senses of humor in e-mail for this reason, making #3 more likely when there are no decent questions to answer)
8. the emotional tone of his attempts to overcome #3 even very vaguely hint that he has taken the slightest offense at anything I ever did or failed to do (an irrational reaction on his part because I don't even know him and in most cases still have NO proof that he is even a real person)
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Most of my reasons are similar to some of the other posters, however I'll add my 2 cents into the discussion.
Three big reasons that I stop answering emails:
1) The person writes several times over a period of weeks and never offers to meet. Don't get me wrong, I want to get a feel for the other person, know his interests, etc., but if I am writing for weeks I lose interest or conclude the other person just isn't that interested.
2) I realize the other person really does not have much in common/has no interests. etc. I am not looking for my clone, but I usually post a few of my interests (let's pretend eating eclairs, playing with legos, and swinging from tree to tree in the forest) and that similar interests/or that it would be great if he has many of his own interests. I may get an initial email stating he has the same hobbies and then in the second or third email will say he will mention that he has never owned legos, never tried eclairs, or been in a forest, etc, but gee he would do those things if he had someone to do them with. I think I am thrown by that because the person is just trying to fit a mold and does not have...I guess any interests. If the person were honest from the start and said - I love eating cupcakes, scuba diving, and reading comic books - I would find that more interesting than a person pretending to have interests that were never even real.
3) Just not that bright. The same way that some people are looking primarily for looks or aesthetics, I am looking for someone who is really intelligent, Some emails reflect little thought or neurons (or so it appears).
As for the phone, I will break the trend here and say that I really don't care overall what the person sounds like or the message sounds like.
However, similar to necessitas, I am a coward/shy and can't pick up and call someone initially (even friends before I know them that well). I may email the person back and say 'sorry I missed your call', but I have a hard time calling.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
I just want to say, I think it's a mistake to see this as a gender issue from the beginning. I'm a guy, I'm not even very attractive, and in online dating I've found that I'm the one who loses interest a significant percentage of the time...almost always, for one of the reasons listed above by the women who have answered. For example:
- I recently wrote one woman back, telling her that her initial message to me was ridiculously generic, and I didn't believe she even read my profile (she responded angrily that I was wrong, but I don't care).
- I talked to one woman on the phone (her idea) and knew immediately from her voice and the way she talked that I had no interest in meeting her. She asked me if I wanted to get together and I said yes and then never contacted her again, because it was easier than saying no.
- I had a date recently where she asked me at the end if I wanted to hang out again, and I said yes, because it was easier than saying no.
- I have, a whole bunch of times, initiated contact with women who then responded to my questions in ways that showed they were interested, but also complete morons, or just obnoxious, and I didn't write them back.
- Two different women, after exchanging several emails with me in which they sounded intelligent and cool, have weirded me out by offering to send pics of their breasts. It's not that I don't want to see them, but the fact they would offer is just so weird that it makes me certain something else is going on that I don't ever want to find out about.
Here is the core issue:
Both of these situations are pretty confounding, because, as the man, you never get any explanation of what you did wrong, and don't know what to do in the future to avoid the same fate.
The problem is that you are (probably) not doing anything wrong. All of us, including men, make decisions about who we're going to spend more time with, and many of those decisions are ultimately arbitrary. Nobody owes you an explanation for why they lost interest, and women are not unattainable sex goddesses who dole out favors to those who kiss their asses in exactly the right way...at least not those worth pursuing.
posted by
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I think the history of our 21st century society is going to be long and tragic if we cast aside human beings who care about real things like they were consumer goods.
Mark Twain once said "Be good and you will be lonely, most places", and to be honest I thought for a long time this site was one of the exceptions. Today I don't believe a lot of what I am reading. You don't have to love everyone who sends you an im, but its a living, breathing human being on the other end - so I hope you all show some respect and can expect the same.
I am crying in a metaphorical beer of course, but geez people other generations used to talk about the Golden Rule and its really not so outdated. A lot of the hostility I detected here seemed to be undeserved.
posted by
Deep Dish
on December 13, 2006 [
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Another specific comment:
--write (actually write and have by the phone) a list of interesting questions and/or topics for the first conversation. It can be hard to talk to someone on the phone for the first time, and if you can act like you're interviewing them a little, it will be more fun. Appropriate questions include:
any siblings? where did you grow up? what was that like?
what do you like about your work/main hobby?
have you ever [insert an interest of yours: hiking, online gaming, whatever]?
Like many have said above, stay away from sex-talk, and above all, keep it light. No "asides" about how hard online dating is. No talking about other dates other than in the vaguest terms "Yes, I've met a few interesting people; most people seem to be pretty smart/interesting" is a good line. Do not say anything cynical about how "women are" online. It's a big turn-off. No talking about loneliness. Act like you are meeting a new friend or colleague.
I think the second phone conversation (or an email after the first) is a good time to ask for a date. Ask something specific (e.g. do you want to meet to see art exhibit xyz and give them the option of suggesting something else if they want). Long phone relationships prior to meeting have bored me into moving on several times.
Again, good luck!
posted by
on December 13, 2006
1) Spelling. If there are more than about 3 obvious typos but more than a couple of spelling mistakes, I stop replying. Snobby? Sure. But true.
2) Talk of sex in the first MANY emails.
3) I met someone I liked more.
4) You kept pushing me for my phone number after I said I didn't want to talk on the phone, but meet instead. Maybe I'm weird in this way, but I'd rather meet before I chat on the phone. That might freak some guys out. Sometimes they push it.
5) Pictures of them with their chain mail or swords. Just not me, dude, no judgement.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
"- I talked to one woman on the phone (her idea) and knew immediately from her voice and the way she talked that I had no interest in meeting her."
Ah, I try to avoid the phone. See, back in the BBS days, more people were willing to just go ahead and have a brief coffee date. In the post-BBS days I've run into more people that just wanted to spend time on the phone. They just wanted to talktalktalktalk on the phone but resisted meeting with excuses like "Oh, it's too soon." WTF kind of crap is that? If I had met them in a bar, it wouldn't be "too soon" but because "Teh Internet" is involved, it's suddenly too soon? I finally decided to forget anyone that insisted on talking on the phone first. I played along with it and had a few encounters where I spent (literally) HOURS chatting on the phone and when we finally met in person, I got an email shortly afterwards saying "I didn't feel any chemistry, so forget about it." That's why I would rather just meet up with someone for coffee after a few emails. (Again, that has worked out great for me. My current girlfriend & I emailed a few times, moved to AIM, and then had coffee and it's been great.)
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Thank you all for your answers. They have lent some insight into a difficult situation.
It sounds like there are guys out there who are a hell of a lot worse at emailing then I. Guys really talk about sex in "getting to know you" emails? Sheesh. It sounds like a lot of email exchanges are broken off for good reasons.
Still, when I write an email that avoids all the obvious no-nos, but still don't get a response, it's incredibly frustrating - especially when it really does seem like we would have a lot to talk about if we had a real conversation. I just know that if I would have worded something in my email differently, I would have gotten a response. <sigh> Alas, I am destined never to know.
The phone number thing still gets me. And its weird, too. If I get a girl's number in a non-online scenario, like a bar or something, it really doesn't phase me when she doesn't call me back. Yet, with online dating, it really bothers me. I guess it's because when I spend a week or two exchanging emails with somebody, it feels like I'm investing time in the relationship. It seems weird that, after all that, the girl would just throw it all away on a whim. I guess it also doesn't help that a week or two gives me time to get my hopes up, which, for a guy in the dating world, is like poison mixed with black death.
I guess there are girls who will give out their number because they feel like they have to. This is passive aggressive, and does far more damage then a flat-out rejection. However, men are plenty passive aggressive, albeit in different ways.
The voicemail thing seems silly and shallow. But, hell, it isn't like men aren't shallow enough. Still, voicemails matter to some girls, so I'll try to get better at it. God, I hate leaving voicemails.
I don't even want to think about all the emails that any given girl gets. If I think too much about that, I'll want to chuck the whole thing and go off by myself and read a book or something.
So yeah, I guess every situation really is different. Some guys really are creeps, and some women really are fickle.
And occasionally, people somehow manage to meet each other.
Go figure.
posted by
on December 13, 2006
Don't waste time with people and get pissed off at them (and yourself) after it doesn't develop into a date. It's totally appropriate to suggest a date over the second email. Don't have more than one phone conversation without suggesting a date. And once a date is set up, you don't have to email again before then. Conserve your energy (and ego). If you're emailing someone for weeks before getting a number, that's a problem (IMO).
And--be aware--that EVERYONE gets rejected. I wrote to a lot of men who (like you mention) I'm certain I would have had an enjoyable conversation with in person. No response, even though they were still checking their accts daily. You just cannot take it personally. Maybe you look like someone they dislike. Maybe you love the band they hate. Maybe they don't like the way you part your hair. But that's OK. Someone else could love you for all of those exact same things.
Also, don't think about how many emails girls are getting. What's the point? If she's the right girl for you, it won't matter.
Good luck! Just write to as many people as you can stand, and be patient.
posted by
on December 14, 2006
In my opinion, the voicemail should be short, to the point. I also prefer meeting over talking on the phone (once someone has verified that he is a corporeal entity), so stay open to that. Then, I'd send a follow-up e-mail: "I missed you. Should i try again?" Then, she has the option to additionally avoid the e-mail. I personally don't care about voicemail, as long as he leaves one and it is short. Also, if I call someone back and the gretting is really long, it turns me off and i hang up (because it is annoying when you are in a relationship with someone and have to wait around forever to leave him a message).
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OceanaGold is a significant multinational gold producer with four operating gold mines and a portfolio of development and exploration assets in the South Island of New Zealand and the northern Philippines.
Our vision is to be a mid tier, mulitnational gold producer delivering superior shareholder returns in a safe and sustainable manner. Our values are: Respect, Integrity, Teamwork, Innovation, Action and Accountability
One of the most defining features of our Macraes operations is the strong proof that mining and agriculture can very easily co-exist. Hundreds of hectares of rehabilitated land which was once used for mining is now where thousands of sheep and cattle graze
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