text:
Go to Admin » Appearance » Widgets » and move Gabfire Widget: Social into that MastheadOverlay zone
Transgender fighter Fallon Fox was the subject of an insult laden tirade by UFC heavyweight Matt Mitrione during an episode of The MMA Hour on Monday.
Fox responded to Mitrione's comments via her facebook page on Tuesday.
More MMA
"Matt Mitrione went well beyond disagreeing with the medical experts who say I should be able to compete as a woman, and personally attacked me as a fighter, as a woman, and as a human being," she wrote. "His comments do not reflect the spirit of our sport, where most competitors uphold values like respect and dignity."
Mitrione was promptly suspended by the UFC for his remarks for violating the company's recently implemented code of conduct policy.
Last week, Florida officials closed an investigation into Fox's licensing application, allowing Fox to compete at her next scheduled bout for Championship Fighting Alliance on May 24.
Fox has been the center of controversy for several weeks while her licensing application was being reviewed after she failed to disclose that she was born a male. Her next opponent is scheduled to be 2-1 fighter Allanna Jones.
Fox is 2-0 in her mixed martial arts career and is coming off a 39-second knockout of Ericka Newsome on March 2.
Be sure to Like MMAWeekly.com on Facebook and Follow @MMAWeeklycom on Twitter.
If he/she had to go threw this when is cybor Gona go threw the same thing I mean we all know she was born a man
Cyborg has kids and Ovaries
Fox does not.
Give Christine the respect she deserves.
1. She does not have kids.
2.her ovaries are probably fries from the man juice
3. cheaters deserve no hespect.
sick burn bro
I don't think he should be able to fight or compete in any gender specific sport. That being said, at 37 years old it won't matter for long.
you're a joke. freak-show, take it to the circus.
Matt is correct a man is a man and should not be fighting women PERIOD!!!!!!!
Just saying 'period' doesn't make it true, regardless of the !'s you put after it.
Biologically Fallon Fox is a man. He has XY chromosomes, thus is a man. No law or set of drugs can change that. Thus He will always have an advantage over a woman. And that is true.
an advantage in fighting for sure, we don't dare want to start an arguement about men having an advantage in all aspects
Correct, I was referring to fighting.
Why not ? Its true !
Men will always have a physical advantage over women !
"Biologically Fallon Fox is a man. He has XY chromosomes, thus is a man" …Wrong…..check the following….
genetically fox is male, phenotypically fox is male. The person in this vid has a disease that prevents cells from responding to certain sex hormones, they are still genetically a male and phenotypically there is a range of "sexes" that are assigned to people with this disease. You have proven nothing.
Does he fight? I would like to see him fight Fallon Fox, just not fight a woman is that to much to ask for?
I see your point* and found the read and video interesting and educational. However, are you implying Fallon Fox may have this condition? Or is that common knowledge? I somehow doubt it.
*For those who want the fast version essentially there is a condition where one can be born with XY but their body is unable to respond to the Y as it normally does and the result is human being who's body and mind grow as a female.
No, read again! i made no reference to Fox…just replying to Maddawgmar's statement that " He has XY chromosomes, thus is a man" . There are XY women (androgen insensitivity) and XX men (SRY translocation). I'm a science geek and I find the issue complicated. But i do know that there are pseudohermaphroditic women with much more estrogen than "normal" females and they are allowed to compete with women….. more references on a complicated topic….there are males, there are females, and there are in between (transgendered). People are so quick to condemn Fox, but what are their opinions on pseudohemaphroditic women athletes, with undescended testes pumping out elevated levels of testestosterone, competing with other women? It is complicated!!! Read up on the topic and you tell me what is a real man and what is a real women!
That is a different case that still does not pertain in any way to Fox, Did Fox grow up in that same exact case manner with those abnormalities? You got to compare bananas to bananas not bananas to oranges. Just don't be a nutcase about it.
There is no reports that there is a genetic disorder. Don't you think that Fallon Fox would have said that he had these genetic anomalies. He doesn't. He is a man.
so you're insinuating that guys fighting females is all good? especially at the professional level? thats laughable
Isn't it? There are a large number of reasons a man of the same weight as a woman has the advantage in a brawl.
Just because your indoctrination tells you that people with disabilities, disorders or part of a minority is ALWAYS in the right, doesnt make it any more logical.
The logic and scientific fact underlying the statement make it true. Period.
Actually yeh Putting "Period" after it does make it true !
I read that on the internet. They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true ! I tread that on the internet too !
Ed Winegarner: You do not get to say what is correct. SORRY!!!!!!!!!! (not)
Women on their period?
I don't agree with the suspension.. a stern warning would've worked fine. I don't think she should fight women, but it should really be up to the women that she wants to fight I guess..
The CoC is fairly clear, and Mitrione broke his contract. Fair's fair.
It doesnt take alot of Courage to hit a woman, It takes alot of COWARDICE, if he would like to fight men I support that, but I will never support any man hitting a woman EVER.
Doesn't take a lot of courage to post and flame away on a comment without even registering, lol
I dont see youre real name.
I just reread what I posted, please point out where I said to use their real name? I said "registered"
whats the difference between bajafox and guest? It doesn't take any more courage to post under bajafox than guest. I cant use my real name because of how I make a living whats your excuse?
Fox has no part in this sport. He is an abomination of humanity, has anybody ever heard "playing the hand they are dealt"? If your born a man you live and die as one same for women. Transgender was not an option 10-20-30 years ago never was in the history of mankind. Sometimes science aint so cool rather than cure cancer we "cure a persons mental deficiency" through cutting there penis off and give them hormones WTF is that!
He wont go far in the sport,
He is only collecting notoriety.
he will leave eventually with a smile possibly that of the greatest troll job ever.
Whatever bit of man Fox has left he should do one of two things walk away and live your life without shaming a great young sport and not hit women ever again. I accept gays and lesbians I love them I have family who are, yet I under no circumstances approve a man hitting a woman and no matter what he is a MAN.
Some men would have the balls to off themselves.
What does Fox have left in him?
Fox has a lot of courage, is an inspiration to a number of women and transgendereds around the world, and I'm quite content to watch her fight.
It doesnt take alot of Courage to hit a woman, It takes alot of COWARDICE, if he would like to fight men I support that, but I will never support any man hitting a woman EVER.
If you want to talk about courage talk to my cousins they came out of the closet and didnt change there sex. They went about life happily and strong.
Telling people of your status from the very start would exhibit courage. I don't know what's courageous about not telling anyone until you got outed.
It takes courage to admit you have an issue and to work through it. It takes NO courage to give in to your issue, then expect the whole world to bow down and accept it also.
Perspective! If you ask a child what they would like to eat, the child will likely respond ice cream or something of the sort. If you ask another child, their answer will likely be the same. A doctor is like a candy store owner. Who gives a s*** what the candy store owner thinks. Rules are there to protect, not unfairly benefit one side under the guise of being a woman. If he or she or whatever politically correct label it wants to be identified by wants to fight, then fight a man you cowardly little liar.
I think in fact what the doctor thinks is paramount here, seeing as they have cleared her to fight women. So yes, I do "give a s*** what the candy store owner thinks".
However I do agree with TheEdit that she should have disclosed her status right from the start.
Yea because he/she is your girlfriend…
fox is a freak and sickening.
You sir have a lot of courage. I want to fight your mom. And I bet the thought of that makes you mad. Good now you know where we are "ALL" coming from
You may as well be a women beater your self !
Hey everyone, it's a bigot!
a bigot cuz he doesnt agree with a dude hitting a female? hah where is your logic dude, it grew to the ripe ol age of 32 i believe and then had it done, how you dont see a problem with this is insane. and let me ask you something, why does when anybody disagrees with anyone now a days they are considered a bigot? in that case you're a bigot.
Hey everyone it's a douche bag !
As far as Fox competing against women, you're bang on. But referring to Fox as an abomination just denotes a complete lack of understanding and fear of what you don't understand.
Hitler was an abomination insofar as the term "humanity" is concerned and all it entails, Stalin was an abomination, but just because someone in their psychology feels themselves more a woman than a man or vice versa (and there are far, far more than you think), and uses modern science to do something about it, does not make them an "abomination". Troubled, confused maybe … but calling Fox an abomination is small minded and a little ignorant to be blunt.
I think some may even find your implication that transgenders are "troubled" or "confused" offensive.
nope my view is that they don't want to live. you play hand your dealt and you make the best of it. you cant trick people into not doing so.
Right. We live in an overly sensitive world where, to be politically correct, one has to sacrifice their freedom of expression to a too stringent degree sometimes or else. I'm not saying we should all have the right to say what we want without consequence. There are always consequences. You call a bigger, stronger man an a-hole to his face, and you'll learn that lesson really quickly.
The fact is, someone who is born a man, and feels so strongly that they are a woman at heart that, aside from hormone injections, they have to surgically alter their appearance, is not a being who was born into this world untroubled. That's just common sense.
You think they were comfortable in their own skin and just A-OK? Really?? When I don't like my appearance, I train hard, get a haircut, upgrade my wardrobe, maybe buy a suit or three … I don't have my penis removed.
You don't have to sacrifice your freedom of expression. You can keep saying stupid offensive stuff if you want, but when people are offended they will judge you. The real problem in today's "PC" world is that people who are bigots and such are angry that people call them out on being trash. People spout off crazy racist / xenophobic crap and are then shocked when people call them on it. It's not the 50′s anymore, or even the 80′s. Say all the ignorant crap you want. People are allowed to hate you for it. Also. Fallon Fox has every right to undergo whatever procedure he felt fit to have done. Good for her. She just shouldn't be fighting women. See you don't have to be ignorant to oppose her fighting women. Just because you support the right of a person to do such things doesn't mean there isn't an unfair competitive advantage.
Yeah, people who have absolutely no moral compass and no fear of (or no belief in) God.
where was God when the 20 little kids got slaughtered in Conn??
With the children no doubt, loving and caring, while probably so wondering about this veil of tears we call life that we insist on inflicting on ourselves.
Know Christ, know peace.
take a hike wimp.
I replied in the general post , so that all could read.
Don't start that crap. God gave man free will and if this really happened those responsible will live in hell for all eternity, that's where and what GOD will do. Read the Bible and get your self off the internet if you don't know GOD. Learn, do your own research and stop screwing with someone else to do your homework, you fuzz ball.
Sir_Roy I wrote a response earlier but I believe it did not go through. To paraphrase my response it goes like this. Thanks for the well written and detailed response. I recognize the error of abomination for lack of a better word. My stance still remains the same.
An abomination is something that disgusts God. So this could potentially be an abomination. So that doesn't necessarily make him ignorant for saying that. Just to be clear though I'm not saying it is and in the end it will be between God and Fox not us. I don't agree with this necessarily but then again I don't understand it so how could I agree with something I don't understand. I was born a man and feel like that is what I am suppose to be but I don't feel what others feel or am i in there situation so I try to just live and let live.
Yeah but God doesn't exist. And if he.she/it did ANYTHING could 'potentially be an abomination'….
I believe God exist but fair enough about anything could be a potential abomination.
Ohh, I forgot that God doesn't exist. You just ended the whole argument, RoadToad. Ohh yeah, except that approximately 4+ billion people do believe in God, and the 2+ billion people who are unsure.
But we're all just dimwitted, right? Because it's reasonable to believe that this entire universe just sprouted into being by natural forces alone. Even Richard Dawkins admits how infinitely unlikely that is. He just thinks space aliens possibly 'seeded' life onto Earth. Go read "I don't have enough faith to be an Atheist."
It shows how you non-believers are making even more of an unjustified leap of faith than believers under the guise of science. At least believers admit to faith; you cannot do that.
In fairness, it should be pointed out that, of those 4 billion, there is a vast array of conceptions of "God" – not one. Some believe God is human. Others do not. Some believe God is male. Others do not. Some believe God is not a living being but more of a spirit or force. And some think about God as a sort of collective conscience. Evoking God, let alone what God is thinking, is a highly dubious proposition, and does far more to expose the ambiguous veracity of your faith than anything else.
I don't think the argument from popularity is actual evidence for your position. Also it isn't faith to not believe in god, any more than it's a sport to sit on the couch. By that logic never coloring is also art.
She as a person is not an abomination, but what she is doing IS an abomination.
Fox is severely mentally ill. Quadruple abomination.
"Transgender was not an option 10 -20 -30 years ago" really? Check out the former pro tennis player Renee Richards from the late 70′s and early 80′s. Born Richard something, allowed to play in the LPGA.
Is transgender an option at birth? have you given birth to a transgender baby.
a person with a mental problem that caused them to get their genitals mutilated desrve help and sympathy not hate from random trash like you.
Shouldnt let him fight though.
Why are you being so Overly Presumptive, and dragging race into this? Seriously Black, White or Mexican which I am, race has nothing to do with this so refrain your white trash comment, my white friends wont like it so much. Cool story bro 99.999% of all life that exsisted on earth has died or gone extinct. Do you understand the concept?
I change it to just trash before you made this reply. That any better?
I could give a heh either way. Nothing personal here life goes on and your still a little b*** namaste c**ksucker.
whats this? "b*** namaste" And whats with the extinction thing one your other post? Why do you sign your post at the bottom like an ass? Youre a joke, nothing personal followed by insults. Mental defective.I couldn't possibly illustrate your stupidity as well as you are. I have a feeling Im wasting my time on a teenager here.
For the record you have been re-graded from little bitch to retarded little chimp bitch.
pathetic, you've been owned son, accept it.
You dumbass. Mental Problems. Screw you. Who cares what others do with their own lives as long as it doesn't harm others there is nothing wrong.
if that's your philosophy then why, screw me? So deciding to get your d*** cut off is perfectly healthy thinking to you? Is fox not harming others?
Why does getting a sex change or taking hormones, treatments which are approved of by doctors, psychologists, philosophers of biology, and psychiatrists, count as something outside of playing with the hand that one is dealt with? If people are born with poor vision, they shouldn't get glasses? If people are born without hearing, they shouldn't have corrective surgery? Regardless of whether people are born with certain issues, or some of those issues are a result of other causes, that is no reason that they shouldn't change things. This is not to say that necessarily every person who identifies as transgendered is fully justified in the way that they wish to express that identity, but only that your argument is based on false premises.
Funny how bad people are at understanding that they lack the knowledge or intelligence to have any right to voice an opinion and draw such strongly worded ethical judgments against others from them.
Why does a simple problem have to be so complicated. people who are born with poor vision are treated with glasses not eye surgery. Its like saying I dont like my brown eyes I will change them for Blue Eyes, people who are totally blind deal with it and learn brail they dont replace there eyes. If a person is born with poor hearing they have the option for hearing aids, there no ear replacement or surgery seeing that it is more complicated than a gender change. If a person wishes to be trans thats on them and no one else, if that same person tells me he is woman that is where I disagree. Boyd Burton was born a male fathered a child had the gender change when he was a full grown male how can I say yes your right. Its practically lying, why are you guys constantly trying to say that he is not a male constantly defending someone who says he is not a male when he was born a male, bypassed the U.S. psychological examination and clerical work and surgery too. He said he was a female when he fought either though he was and genetically is still a male XY. There is no lack of knowledge, at this point all you Fox supporters are no better than the bible thumpers who are against him too.
This really isn't about transgenders, its about safety for athelets in combat sports.
And she has been declared as safe to fight so there is no issue here.
You should think before you type. That was just stupid !
"Sometimes science aint so cool rather than cure cancer we "cure a persons mental deficiency" through cutting there penis off and give them hormones WTF is that!" I think thats the best comment i have ever read on the internet, <3
Excellent summation of the issue.
Totally agree with you. I just want to say that because of the probable amount of backlash you will receive just for making this comment.
Unfortunately, our culture is now self-obsessed, selfish, and the people in the culture only idolize one thing: themselves.
Also, throw in some punctuation now and then.
Because something has been the case in the past, it should always be that way? Wrong. Sure, you have to play the hand you are dealt, and living in a society with the technology to to undergo gender reassignment surgery and hormone therapy is certainly a card in your hand. I don't agree with Fallon Fox fighting women, but to go off on her right to undergo surgery and live as a woman is just stupid. You and people like you are starting to make me embarrassed to be an MMA fan, you f****** cretin.
Well if Fallon whould have came clean in the first place their
wouldn't be so much controversy he lied so where is Fallon's
suspension that's why some people won't take MMA as real sport because they let this sick bastard thrash women like its
a freak show
She didn't lie. She's not obligated to tell people publically about her surgery.
So its ok to trick people I would think if you seen a
attractive woman and she got that same surgery
you would like to know right by not telling it shows
that person true colors as someone who likes
to undermine with no real honor to themself
In this situation… yea you are. Legally.
'his surgery'
publically, no, but it certainly is something that need be mentioned to the commission that is presiding over the fight. after that, it becomes a safety issue for the opponent and it becomes public knowledge.
so yes, fox doesn't have to jump on twitter and announce it to the world, but people acting like it should be a secret need to rethink the chain of events that took place to get to where we are now.
maybe in other aspects of her life, but clearly it is an issue with the commission
I say boycott Fox don't watch any of his fights let that man
find a new line of work
Actually, considering her courage, I'm inclined to watch her fights specifically because of this.
'his courage'
You need to reevaluate exactly what courage is. Explain what's courageous about not telling anyone until you had no choice?
You keep saying courage, i don't think you want what that means.
What is courageous about getting your balls chopped off just to fight women your bigger and stronger than?
What if they grew back….. Creepy, impossible but creepy
i get where you're coming from about fallon being 'courageous' for entering such a intense combat sport…in fact you could say all fighters have courage…and for fallon being the first transgender fighter to compete..i can see why you'd feel more inclined to highlight her courage…however, i think true courage would've been to openly disclose that she's transgender to the commission…that would've been true courage!! to openly tell the commission she's transgender and to ask them where to go from there…to openly compete as a transgender fighter from the start instead of going 3-0 and then being 'found out', as she herself put it…if fallon was an honest fighter and open, she could've been a story about courage and an example of a proud transgender athlete but instead she chose to lie and hide her past hoping to compete without ever being recognized…that doesn't show courage..in fact, all it has done is draw more confusion and negativity towards transgender fighters/athletes….she had a chance to be courageous, but instead she chose to lie…
regardless there is nothing courageous about a guy fighting a female. what do yall not understand about this?
to be honest i don't know enough about the surgery or hormone replacement to know if its fair or not fair…all i was saying is just because fallon is transgender it doesn't mean she is automatically courageous as suggested by the op, i think if the necessary steps were taken in the beginning a lot of confusion would have been cleared up..
well said, be clean from the start, as strong and tough as mma women are, Fox fighting ladies is not fair, I would like to hear from the 2 fighters he/she beat already, and ask if they thought the fights were fair??
And I get why you suck at life.
It's a dude!! not a her, get it right.
I really hope the UFC doesnt cater to psychos like you who take pleasure in watching a girl get brutalized by a man.
"Her Courage" ? I think you mean "It's Courage"
Your are an Idiot ! Fox has no courage if it did it would be fighting men !
While your at it we should boycott UFC until Matts return.
fox has never had a televised fight anyway.
Why wasn't Dana suspended for this rant? lulz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0jFj4Cq1dc
There's a "Code of Conduct" policy? Uh oh. What are the Diaz brothers gonna do?
You arent a woman – you wanna fight start a transgender league
That's what I've been saying. The only fair fight would be against other transgenders
I'd still let it blow me
But now diaz fans cant blow fox, sorry guys.
Say it to my face motherfucker and I will Bitch slap you. #209
HE is a man plain and simple, you cannot change bone structure with medicine when someone is 31 years old, maybe when they are prepubescent. has the bones of a man, has the chin like a man (will be able to take a punch much better than a woman), even with drugs to bring strength down he will still be stronger than any woman he faces
i think he has a point but could have expressed himself in a different way, i too am an mma fighter and someone who believes strongly that a man should never hit a woman. I understand society may accept you as a woman but picture yourself before the surgery punching a woman in the face. Just because you had a doctor change how you look doesnt change what you are, a man so stop beating up on women.
why do you believe that a man should never hit a woman? WHat about a really big buff woman on steroids and shes trying to steal your wife purse?
People should not bully others, men not hitting women ,even when they deserve it, is just plain sexist and silly.
Sorry UFC, you are wrong. I dont care what a persons sexual orientation is, this is about physiology, if you are genetically a man, you should not be fighting women, I dont care if you "see" yourself as a woman or get your God given parts visually made into a womans. The DNA is male, and if you lied about your birth sex to fight women, then yes that makes you as Matt Mitrione labelled you: " a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak. And I mean that. Because you lied on your license to beat up women. That's disgusting. You should be embarrassed yourself"
sick yes, mentally sick but a sociopath? disgusting to many yes, a freak? technically that might be true as well but this guys is has a serious mental problem why the hate? DeNigro? are you one of those sicilians descended from rape victims of the moors?
About my lineage, yes, I most likely am. But there is no hate in that comment. Any man who looks to professionally beat on women is a sociopath., and a freak
Sick, I guess there is a new saying, "if you cant beat em, cut your **** off and beat women." if it ever got into the UFC I'm sorry but UFC would loose myself and lots of other fans right away. Every violent contact sport has its own classes and genders for a reason, if it really wants to fight so badly then it needs to start its own tranny division and everyone will be equal, ******** men beating on other ******** men. That would be truly fair. men vs men, women vs women, tranny vs tranny.
so you think he got a sex change to have an advantage fighting? Goddamn you are one stupid mofo. Do the world a favor and kill yourself and your family to cleans the gene pool. How are you intelligent enough to use a keyboard?
Mitrione may have been a little harsh but it's not like he was wrong. This person should not be competing with women period. Regardless of what she sees herself ass. No matter what hormones and surgeries you undergo… you cannot change nature. Her bone density and muscle strength are still that of a natural born male. Estrogen cannot change that. If she wants to compete, it should be with men. That is the only fair way.
its obvious to non-retards that the personal insults is what got him in trouble not his opinions on transgender fighters.
So Fox is allowed to fight, but Mitrione isn't. Figures. When will liberals realize MMA isn't swimming or other such sport. It's fighting. They're allowing a dude to fight women. That is just messed up. Sure, give her equality everywhere else, I am all for that, but not in a cage. That is dangerous and messed up.
remember that nearly all scientist are liberal, politically. It is science that wins this argument so you can thank liberals.
There is a big difference between a 130 pound man and a 130 pound woman. A 130 pound man has more denser muscle fibers, just like a chimpanzee has 6 times the muscle density of a man, which makes them 6 times stronger than a human being, even though they may be smaller and lighter. Just because he had his genital removed doesn't mean his core genetics are gone as a result of it. The fact of the matter is , he has man strength, and just because he's taken hormones to make him more female like, it still doesn't change his muscle density. He is a complete coward who want's an obvious advantage to make money by beating up women instead of fighting men, and trying to play the gay card to get support for what he's doing. He's a complete joke.
You probably outweigh Rhonda Rousey… Care to take her on in the Octagon?
which male UFC fighters at bantamweight do you seriously think rousey could take out?
Fox is a clown, and this Christopher LaHaise is a joke. It's so trendy these days to be different that all the kooks are coming out of their hiding spots and attempting to stand tall. I'm all for individuality and free to live life as you choose, but you don't get any special treatment for being different. You aren't awarded any unique rights or free passes. You cry for equality but you want all these additional benefits? If you kooks are the same as us then you get what we get!…A normal life. Fox is a man. If he wants to live life as a woman than that's fine. But cheating the system isn't part of that. The dude went through puberty as a man, developed muscles and bone structure as a man. And now he's kicking the s*** out of women and thinking he's a badass for doing so. He is 36 years old, ex-Navy, and fighting martial arts as a man against women. That's it. End of story.
lol what a joke! it got a sex change so it can fight women,
sounds like complete s***. Let it fight men.
This person should be restricted from fighting because they will make the sport go the way of wrestling and boxing.
You are all so ignorant! This is not a man beating on his wife! This is a woman who wants to participate in the sport she loves. Her opponents are not being forced to fight her, it's their choice!
As for MMAPundit, "I accept gays and lesbians, I have family who are" is the new "I have black friends, I can't be racist" line. Grow up!
You are the coward who uses the internet to bully someone into submission (yeh that was on purpose, keeping it light and all).
Also just because someone is gay (referring to your cousin) does not mean they want to change gender you idiot!
hmmm so a dude beating up on chicks isnt a bully huh? sounds like the biggest coward out there, bet you're a women beater to huh? also you cant change gender, its impossible dude.
This "dude" you are talking to is a woman, and no, dude, I am not a woman beater, that is not to say it's impossible due to my gender. If I hit a woman in the street, as with everyone else, I'm a woman beater.
In a controlled, organised, professional fight I would not be.
Fox is holding an unfair genetic advantage in being male – genetically speaking he is a man. No one can argue that point. To attempt to do so is denial in the name of some faux "political correctness".
Fox should not have the right to step into a cage and fight women because Fox is genetically male. It's that simple. All the hoopla that surrounds needlessly complicates the issue.
I'm not arguing the genetics of it at all but obviously she has been physically cleared to fight women. That's all there is to it.
What if I told you I'm black, it would be awkward. Yet being Mexican I ask you to please not get races in, this is not about race. As for coward hey I got my opinion you have yours if you meet me one day would you still call me a coward? Also have a nice cup of STFU OP your getting way to presumptive I wish you nothing more than a special place in history for The Darwin awards.
As is pretty clear in the post I was stating the ridiculousness of those lines so no, it wouldn't be awkward if you were black.
I appreciate you have a right to your opinion, and I mine. However the "Some men would have the balls to off themselves" part of your "opinion" is just disgusting.
And yes, if I met you, I would still most likely consider you a coward for essentially telling someone to "off themselves" anonymously online.
So when chael trash a country and talk lies its OKAY? but when you tell the truth and trashtalk a liar its WRONG? wow!
they didn't have the policy at the time cheal said that stuff, It was implemented after rousey said that dumb s*** about the school shooting.
Besides most brazilians never heard what cheal said because they dont have electricity.
So ufc is a sport where you can legally beat a woman. Interesting!
UFC is not a sport.
It's called mma
Dude whoever you are please stop using the handle MMAPundit. its causing confusion. Please don't Fallon Fox this up.
Did he have a chop-a-dicktomy. Still a dude.
The arguments that folks are having on the internet seem to focus not on Matt's under-educated stance on transgendered people and sex reassignment surgery, but on Matt's point that a man should not be fighting women. Fox not being a man aside, I can say from experience that sexual dimorphism can only take you so far in combat sports. I can name quite a few women who routinely beat me up while I was at peak physical condition during my competitive taekwondo years (one of whom is currently the Super Fight League flyweight world champion, by the way). Women in combat sports didn't ask Matt and others talking about this to protect them from the horrors of fighting a woman who used to be a man. These women can take care of themselves pretty darn well already.
so youre saying mma should be co-ed and this would not be an issue?
I am saying that Fox is a woman. She is fighting other women. There isn't an issue here.
If you believe that gender and biological sex are different things then I suppose you could call fox a woman. Problem is that fox is fighting biological females and fox is a biological male. Gender is not the issue, sex is.
haha this dude here really questioning respect and dignity? hah you're a dude fighting females, exactly how much respect for the sport is that? this is insane, i dont wish death or injury on anybody but this one time i wouldnt mind seeing this idiot have his ability to fight females taken away career ending injury. mma also isnt about dudes beating up chicks but you're sure as s*** doing that. hah
In my opinion for Fox to be courageous he would be asking to fight men at the weight he competes at, not women. We all know dudes are built differently, we are naturally stronger, carry more muscle and have thicker bones etc.
But let's all face it, we all know Dana will sign it to the UFC after a few more wins….
no he will not.
Dana will not sign her.
call yourself a woman?? my ass..
she/he can do whatever wants to.
but please. you aint a woman.you are a tranny..
class act!!
Sonnen was way more offensive and insulting then Mitrione yet he was not cut, rather he was hyped up for it.
The truth behind the story is that Dana White wants the ***** dollar.
Dana if you read this, even though Matt went on a tirade his tirade was not bigoted, he was not saying fox was a freak because he is transgender and decided to cut his strom off. He was saying the person is a freak because fox, operation or not, was born a man has the frame and bone density of a man and is fighting women and that is what makes him avfreak not the fact he had the operation.There are many that feel Georges st Pierre has had his penis removed. Would it be ok for him to fight a woman? Would florida allow Georges to fight in invicta if he comes out as transgender next year? People are trying to use this as some kind of political statement for transgender rights. Florida needs to realize fox is not a woman fox is transgender! They are not the same.
WTF??? You were making some solid points … till you tried to compare GSP to Fox. Who the 'f' in their right minds believes GSP had his little Georges removed?? I get what you're kinda sorta trying to say with that … but the supposition there's a group of morons out there that actually believe, outside of being merely derogatory, GSP is snipped is stupid bud.
Sir Roy some one is using my handle. I dont understand how disquss works let alone I believe all my comments and responses have not been displayed.
"There are many that feel Georges st Pierre has had his penis removed" WTF?
the only truly nonsexist dynamic is to make MMA co-ed. There would rarely or never be a biological woman fighter but that shouldn't matter if we don't look at sex.
is this a cat or a person with a mental problem that mutilated themselves? Dont call mr. whiskers a man, he is a kitty cat and always felt like a cat inside, ever since he was a kitten.
I meant to be funny but 100% honest I don't see the difference between this guy and transsexuals. Could one of you thumbs downers please explain?
The world was a better place to live when the people like the school shooters, Mr. Fox, Mr. Kitty and the people who pander to their obvious mental illnesses used to be institutionalized for their and societies safety. They may have been eating green jellow for life, but they weren't tattooed for life, missing body parts or facing murder charges.
ANY of you people who say that FALLON FOX is a REAL woman; I ask you if
YOU would have sex with "her" Sign on the dotted line and put your name
(with pride) and tell me you TRULY consider him a woman…I cant wait to
That is not the issue buddy.
You are dooomb
i wonder how many guys hes been with didn't know they were really with a dude. ouch, always check for an adams apple
Fallon Fox is a fictional name. The idea that this guy is a woman is a farce. You can put a NASCAR body on a 1984 K-Car but it doesn't make it a racecar. Maybe Fox didn't get the surgeries to make him look like a woman so he'd have an unfair adv. in the fight game, but he does. 5 KO's all in round 1 pretty much is the proof of point. I so want to see Matt Mitrione grow his hair out, get some implants and take the woman's MMA circuit by storm. LOL. Seriously though, if he continues to fight women, that sets a president for other men to get their knobs chopped off and fight in womens MMA. This is not a gay/lesbian/transgender rights issue, it is about a man knocking the s*** out of women and being paid for it. This is not good for the sport. I share Mitrione's feelings but probably would not go on record using the language he did to describe Fox, though I think it is accurate.
See…this kind of dumb ignorant white trash talk is what I am referring to.
You are a class act my friend.
Its frightening that someone is actually defending a guys right to beat up women, and expect to get paid to do it. Growing your hair and taking estrogen to get boobs, doesnt change anything. He went through puberty and adulthood as a guy, and thats what he is.
Of course Fox is 2-0 in HIS MMA career. He's beating on other women. 39 second knock out … no kidding. Has the world lost their f'n minds?? I cannot believe they're allowing him to beat on more women in the Cage. I'm speechless.
As far as I'm concerned, the two women he's already beaten should receive legal counsel … because I'm pretty damn sure they have well founded grievances to follow through on…
yea experts who want money what a joke just his bone structureis going to b different and stronger!!! sooo stupid!!
I would say to those of you who keep referring to Fallon as "HER" that you take an anatomy class.Whatever we are created by God as,so we shall remain. What we are determined as at the time of our birth is what we shall be until we leave this planet. No amount of hormones or medical technology can change that fact. God creates men and women. Man creates mutations. If in doubt refer to birth certificates. All people have the right to choose their own destiny in which depending on their choices either brings reward or punishment. That being said, it is HIS choice to live as HE chooses but i don't agree with HIM fighting women. Nuff said!
You are dumb.
Her and he are simply English words to refer to classes of people
God creates men and women.
God ALSO gives you choices.
And the U.S. government decided to treat transgender males as women, FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.
Fallon was born a man. Fallon had surgeries. Is FALLON now biologically a woman? No. To be a biological woman you have to have all of the material traits of a woman. Essentially what you have in Fallon is a man that did plastic surgery to resemble a rough appearance of a woman.
But man vs woman, in the legal context, is more flexible. So you can, under the law, get those procedures done and be LEGALLY considered a woman.
Should she be allowed to compete in the women's division? If her opponent consents and the promoters agree, then Fallon can fight girls. But should her achievements be considered achievements of a woman fighter? Not unless those that are affected (other female fighters) all give consent.
The problem will occur when Fallon KOs 20 female fighters in a row and a question pops up whether FAllon should be ranked ahead of Ronda.
The answer is no.
Weight and gender classifications in MMA exist for a reason. And unless we could scientifically prove that Fallon has no advantage over female fighters due to her birth gender, her achievements are not woman MMA fighter's achievements.
you are right about there being a diff between legally being a woman and biologically being a woman. Most just feel that biological sex is germaine to this issue.
what issue?
99% of the people here can't even understand the difference between the two concepts.
I'll make it clear. These four points summarize.
1. Did Matt Mitrione make offensive comments. YES. Regardless of the truth behind his comment, he shouldn't have used those white-trash words.
2. Is Fallon a Woman? Biologically, No. Legally, Yes.
3. Should Fallon be allowed to fight? Yes, if the opponent consents after thorough knowledge of the entire situation.
4. Should Fallon's wins be recorded as wins in the women's division? No, unless every one of her competitors (let's say top 30 women) agree to accept her into the women's division. She cannot simply stack up wins against consenting female fighters and be ranked ahead of biological female MMA fighter…That would be unfair.
The U.S government did not choose that for him. He bypassed it by going to Thailand to get his sex Change operation. FACT.
thats because the best genital mutilation doctors are in thailand not for a legal reason.
when did I say that the US gov choice anything for Fallon Fox???
The law has recognized sexual orientation changes for many years buddy.
You, as an individual, may assume the legal status of a woman, although biologically you may not be able to do so.
Yes. There was a law on this buddy. The U.S. government decided to treat transgenders males as women for legal purposes. You can legally get married to a man. This is not a loophole in the law that remains to be fixed buddy.
Legally one must disclose all pertinent information why is Boyd Burton not following protocol to disclose himself beforehand?
I understand there's an unfair strength advantage for Fox, buts let's not get TOO carried away with this "man beating up a woman" like she's completely vulnerable and weak. We are talking about women who fight mma and are trained for combat, and not Miss Prissy Princess with her little tiara, helpless and Oh, woe is me!"
Your point is weak. Cain Velasquez shouldn't be allowed to be in the same ring as Ronda Rousey. It doesn't matter that Ronda is a the women's champ.
Fallon and her supporters are missing the point. In the context of gender, I completely support her choice to becoming a woman. It's her life.
But there are reasons why we have women's division and men's division, and different weightclasses even within each division.
You have to fight someone holding everything else but fighting abilities equal. If weight and sex (biological sex) are factors, then Fallon Fox is not competing in women's division.
What we are seeing is transgender women vs biological women. This is some sort of catch-gender fight.
I train in mma and regardless of what you choose to believe women cant take or deliver a punch like a man or match strength for strength with one grappling. If it were possible EVERY major sport wouldn't separate them.
women that weigh my weight are like grappling children, strength wise, I can beat women way above my experience level and its no surprise to them when I do, THEY'RE WOMEN!!!
Where the heck would you be grappling with woman to begin with??!!
Are you some guy who wants to prove something to yourself …or them?!!
Then why has HE chosen to fight weak opponents and COMPLETELY DOMINATE AND CRUSH the WOMEN HE fought
Another ignorant wanta-be mind-reader. Fallon was a beginner at MMA so of course wanted to fight those that she had a better chance against. And she trained extra hard to be in top (woman) shape for the fights. But it was her mental work that gave her the real edge, as she scoped out her opponents in advance and spotted their strengths and weaknesses, and used that knowledge to her advantage.
Fallon is better trained, stronger mentally and smarter fighter …THOSE factors are why she won her fights and early on in the fights …not some "secret gender" aspect. So try given credit where credit is due!
I felt you had good points after your "strength" assumption in the first sentence. But the fact is that without her old (male level) testosterone in her system for six years (four years over the needed two years for a complete change in muscle advantages) she has NO strength advantage except whatever she can get from good training since her medical transition. I have personally seen a trans-woman who before her SRS bench press 250 lbs with no problem and two years later couldn't even do 10 girl-style pushups (from the knees) she had lost so much muscle strength.
A recent study just on the news shows that a moderate exercised person will see significant muscle strength lose in just 2-3 weeks of laying off exercising and a well trained athlete will do the same in just 10-12 weeks (and far below their prime level). Guess what 24 months of no testosterone and no regular exercising will do?
As far as taking Estogen, some might think that would reduce muscles even moreso but in fact the reverse occurs, it helps with muscle mass. so just like with natal woman who have both high estrogen and 1/10th the average male levels (but varies a lot by woman) woman have TWO forms of muscle building hormone support. Fallon as with most MtFs has LOWER than average female levels and takes only moderate-amounts of female hormones.
So sports policies that REQUIRE trans-woman to take female hormones (though most do prefer to take it to support their secondary gender attributes) IS ACTUALLY helping the t-woman be able to gain muscle strength! …just like with other woman!!
And remember now Fallon is WAY past the two year requirement mark for hormone suppression (about NINE years since she took hormones BEFORE she had SRS) so that eliminates any "male born strength advantage" factor. Just doesn't exist!
Fallon$ promoter ha$ got to be loving thi$
Doubt it, but AFC is probably milking this issue just to stimulate interest in the new woman's side of MMA.
Why would you become a women to start professional fighting..makes no sense to me..why not just fight as a man
I have a feeling the two choices are not related to each other.
She would have gotten a sex change regardless of whether she was gonna be an MMA fighter.
And should decided to become an MMA fighter after she got a sex change.
This is not like Kenny "Kenflo" Florian getting a sex change to win a UFC belt.
How would the final result differ? What if Jose Aldo decided hes a woman? If its ok for fallon how could you possibly tell him its not ok? Men are men and women are women i cant believe anyone really doesn't get that.
wtf are you talking about?
"Why would you become a women to start professional fighting" <–this is what the guy above said.
I am saying that Fallon Fox did not get a sex change to join women's MMA. I never said anything about whether she should or should not fight.
Also, you my friend, can't seem to understand the subtly at issue here. Fallon cannot biologically become a woman, although she may get surgeries that make herself look like a woman.
But the society and the law recognizes gender to be a non-physical concept. It is a role you assume. And YES, you can legally change your legal sex status.
come on. you really think it was a strategy? The guys messed up in the head about his sex and wants to fight, seperate things. Let me guess you're around 14
Here is the real problem. Because Fox was born as a man, he has some natural advantage to fighting women. Sex change or not, He still possesses stronger upper body strength than a woman. This puts him at an unfair advantage. And it is still like…a man, beating up women.
I could care less about what sex she thinks she is or he or whatever, IT HAS NO PLACE IN THE RING BEATING UP WOMEN! If you are BORN a MAN you should have to fight a MAN, period!
I wish there really was an lgbt !community" , if there was one, they could all go there leave the real world alone
this is about biology and MMA not homophobia.
Absolute insanity is all this can be described as. Matt was 100% correct in his take on the situation and the UFC should be ashamed of their decision. Hopefully this will cause a boycott of UFC PPV untill Matt gets his job and apoligy.
I CO-SIGN (*MATT MITRIONE*) to THE FULLEST .. FALLON FOX aka BUFFALO BILL from SILENCE OF THE LAMBS shouldnt get to FIGHT WOMAN because she was BORN a MAN .. I dont CARE how many YEARS (*IT*) has been taking PERFORMANCE DE-HANCING DRUGS (Lmao)
Absolutely correct and who if anyone makes sure he she it is actually taking these hormones?
very valid point.
Gee ..were you aware Fox had had SRS in 2006 which eliminated the need too take testosterone blockers. And her surgery was well before the two-year minimum requirement to have had suppressed to normal female levels (or no natural testosterone in her system at all). So any such testing was a long a mute point by her first fight .Any other testing would be whatever is typical for all fighters.
Now in the recently implemented policy there is testing for both testosterone and estrogen hormones within the first two years but Fox is long past that and no way to go back and prove anything unless she took them by a particular type of doctor and can document that, which was the remaining medical point that needed clearing up, but now she's been cleared to fight as scheduled in May.
Why is it that we never see and transgender women-turned-men….. in sports…. ohh thats right. Females are physically inferior to men. So why would they think it is ok for men-turned-females to compete against women? Makes no sense.
Because up to now most transitioned later in life, past prime professional sports age, many wouldn't want the intense scrutny and hate that obviously comes with any trans-case as Fox well demonstrates is out there just waiting to pounce on someone (no doubt in part to drive trans-persons OUT of the public eye).
Secondly, most don't advertise their private medical past even if they do sports, then thirdly participation of trans-persons in sports is getting pretty usual these days, so the novelty aspect for breaking news is wearing thinner. But believe me if you look hard you will find some examples in nearly all sports!
And the more correct phrasing is MtFs (male-to-females and conversely, which uses two basic sex terms – "male" and "female, not gender ones which is what "man" and "woman" are, given there are two different sides in a single person).
And in fact EITHER trans-woman or trans-men can participate in sports but trans-woman tend to get more attention because of the greater hate for them in general by a segment of the public. And given the average woman is shorter-smaller than men in general and many sports favor bigger taller bodies then fewer trans-men find equal opportunity as much as trans-woman do, so it's most sports that is slanted towards bigness and strength so sports in general that are popular tend to be biased towards male-bodied athletes. .
Conversely there is very few opportunities for trans-woman to do well in such sports as woman's gymnastics, although there is the exception of male bodied athletes like Johnny Weir in skating that instead of being gay was transgender could probably hold their own against many natal woman ice skaters!
So blame it on how society have always tended to favor sports that lean towards male bodies, and even then on the upper range of height, strength and stamina. So just a matter of sports-leanings and percentages.
They are called sickos you psychopath.
No, their condition before being treated is called "Gender Dysphoria." And later they are just called WOMAN and FEMALE!!
What you claim is you being a sicko hater!!
Whewww!…what drug were you on when you wrote that deranged croppolla?!
Stop heterophobia!
This isn't about sexual orientation at all, they fight as their assigned sex regardless of that aspect.
And the big lie you are pushing is that allowing others full rights somehow diminishes the rights of another group (hteros in this case), but that is simply untrue.
So drop the reverse false logic. No one is buying it.
Dana,I Totally agree with Matt .Only God can make a woman.
Or another woman lol.
She did create Adam …good enough for me!
If god was real…..
its not longer cool (n freakin 2013) to casually throw aro reference ence to ancient deities, even if you are typing from the south.
That's why God gave doctors the knowledge and abilities to help these people change their sex to match their gender!
God works in mysterious ways!
Hey if you want to mutilate your body thats fine but dont go fooling yourself into thinking your a woman. You cant have kids or a period you were not born with a vagina YOUR NOT A WOMAN!!! ITS DISGUSTING THAT EQUAL RIGHTS HAS BECOME SO TWISTED!!!
class act buddy.
Matt Thew you are a class act.
Does this make you feel like a bigger man?
Unfortunately I would have to agree with you yet let me translate what he is saying in a more eloquent manner;
Hey if you would like to go through a gender reassignment its ok, I could care less, yet under no pretense should Fallon Fox consider himself a woman. Fallon Fox can not birth kids, let alone have a menstrual cycle because Fallon Fox was born a male, NOT A MAN A MALE. It disgusting that equal rights has been so unwillfully twisted.
-MMAPundit esquire.
Speaking bigot talk in calmer terms doesn't change the arrogant and bigoted nature of those claims. I just debunked all that stuff to his and one of your similar comments, so won't repeat them again.
Trying to go Repub right-winger on this is typical. Your kind doesn't get to tell woman what their function is OR what constitutes a woman …mind your own damnn business!
She, just like any other trans-person, has the right to be and live the life as the gender they are and identity with mentally. And there are laws that govern who is what sex for public purposes, and that is NOT decided by YOU! …or your minority band of transphobic haters.
So take your lame excuses to attack the ENTIRE trans-community and bury it. Those cheap tactics don't fly, here or anywhere else.
BTW, you are the disgusting one here!
OP calm down and take some dumb dumb pills.
You clearly do not know what you are speaking about. I am not a (Repub right-winger) I am an independent former liberal "Bill Clinton" switched in 2008. How about that there is a fact that you didn't know henceforth you lead me to the conclusion that you do not know a thing about the matter at hand. Because how on Earth can one overlook a fact that being born with a penis, having XY chromosomes at the most simple of basis would prove that he is actually a HE.
How about this you go trans yourself into the corner when the big boys are talking. Nobody cares about trannies, they care more about trannies beating there friends, daughters, and sisters. Don't overlook facts and don't overlook reality. You are nothing but a grain of sand in the beach
Fact is on THIS TOPIC you went to the right-wing end …and so far from what Bill Clinton and President Obama's stance is on trans-equality rights!
Fact is I am a profession adviser for woman whether cis-gender or transgender, and have more related trans-medical information in my little pinkie that you have in your whole body.
You calling them "trannies" shows your true colors as an ignorant stupid bigot, and who should just keep your hate to yourself.
And DNA is NOT a social criteria for assigning sex at birth, neither for you, your mother nor Fallon. Nor for sex RE-assignments either. And would fail if government ever tried to enforce DNA testing.
Besides being transgender has nothing to do with one's initial physical aspects but the gender identity of the person. So don't try to wipe out that group of people by attempting to negate that basic condition by shoving some body aspect into it.
Plus practice has shown, and that it can be effectively dealt with, and more and more laws are being passed to protect their rights. And those are needed because of arrogant bigots running around like you!
Don't get politics involved in this, your presumptions of me are of fallous mindset to say the least, There is enough of it in fighting there is no need for it in MMA so drop it OP.
Fact is we are in the internet a lot can be made up I have held my position from the start. So who am I to believe let alone take into consideration. Word of advice OP dont post your profession nobody gives a s*** let alone would believe it. As is your title of Profession adviser could just very well be another word for life coach.
Average Man that I am I can tell you that the first thing I that comes to mind in regards to your profession is a Trans-sexual life coach based on your emphasis and stance that I have read.
You complaining about trannies is like me complaining about being called a s****, let it go! It will never change as is more new words would come into existence to redefine the negative connotation. The sooner you get over it the sooner it would stop OP so please OP get over it.
DNA is a major criteria in every day life it is the building blocks to life. DNA can liberate a falsely imprisoned man often times on pretenses of race. DNA is essential to life and justice so to say it is not social criteria for "assigning sex at birth" it is quite honestly the most blatantly ignorant thing I have ever heard.Logic dictates if your XX you are a female, XY you are a male/
Hypothetical situation
If you commit the perfect crime and leave DNA that says look for an XY suspect when in fact its an XX in appearance how long do you think the person can get away with it? How long do you think they will go out and find that person?
In my eyes Boyd already committed a crime's "Perjury" which is a fact you cant lie in fight contracts. Assault on women Boyds first 2 opponents were unaware of his gender change, they both stated that they have never been hit so hard by any other women. Those are the facts that I know and have seen. I
Seize the day and go trans yourself CX
-MMAPundit M.D.
Don't tell me …you're another Republican running for office …equating baby-bearing as the main function of a woman …like we need more than SEVEN billion people on our over-populated planet!
Fact is that baby-bearing isn't a requirement for any particular woman to BE a woman….so can and some can't, and even then some do, and some choose not to pop-em-out. And having periods …who cares…they aren't fun at all!
Trans-equality rights are here and growing …get over it you fruggin' bigot!
I wonder how she was medically cleared to compete to fight women? Did he/she suddenly decrease producing natural testosterone levels and increased etrogen to that of a woman? Were they able to test weather her muscles are developed similar like to females? whats the difference with a man putting on a wig and joining a woman's league? So if a woman became a man would she be "medically" cleared to fight with men? what reason's would there be that would disallow a woman (turned man) to fight other men? Physical gender superiority? How is that not relevant when the coin is flipped? Why don't we see more washed up basketball players change genders and play in the WNBA? im just asking questions i dont know much about this whole thing…. all i know is that if we see fallon dominate in the sport then obviously there is a problem.
the issue was treated as a legal one not biological. Fear of litigation is the only reason HE was cleared.
I think it was more than that.
The dude takes estrogen shots.
by more than that you mean to say you think the biology was considered in this issue? I dont believe physicians were consulted in this matter or we would have heard that.
Actually the trans-related rules are quite typical for high-level sports, amateur and professional types. Some requirements use "hormone treatment" only as the minimal requirement and (for now) the Olympic Games uses full SRS (lower surgery) as the requirement which in practice both accommplish the same thing (but SRS is more permenant and verifiable then "how long on T-blockers and taking female hormones).
Know that highly trained medical professional from all over the world were involved in the long process of formulating the trans-medical requirements, and MMA simply adopted the same type of requirements as other professional sports have used for years now, and found to be quite adequate both in performance and ranking of trans-athletes (in fact have tended to UNDER-perform after all the effects of medical treatment had time to be fully effective.
Also note that Fallon far more than met the minimal two year requirement, and in fact was SIX YEARS till her first fight!
Try reading REAL articles on Fallon and this issue, like on CNN, and you can find lots of details on her transition and career timeline on there. Or google "sports transgender medical" or something similar. Plenty online!
Not all you say here and elsewhere is wrong (she does take Estrogen), but it's clear you are still a transphobic and rude bigot by calling Fallon a "dude."
Total BS! Don't apply to be a mind-reader …you suckie at it! And your "HE" shows what a total dumb transphobic hater your are. So nothing you say is even worth any consideration. Now go frug yourself!
Brock Lesnar should make a comeback as a flyweight trapped in a heavyweights body.
and anyone that consents to fight her after a full disclosure.
Seems you are stuck on disclosure …an idea.without merit. Why? So other woman fighters can decline to fight? Or that they would have insight on HOW to fight Fallon with some presumptions in mind?
Fact is that it's now open knowledge so there is no need for any special disclosure, and secondly any decent fighter scopes out their potential opponent by looking at fight tapes, and observing their body build/reach and preferred fighting methods and level of competence. Making assumptions merely on "used to be male" really provides no solid info given the wide range of body builds and fitness of fighters.
Third, such forced disclosures opens up fighters to lots of potential scorn and smear by fans of the woman they desire to fight, and some fans. And some woman fighters might not fight them due to ignorance or scorn for fighting a "transgender" woman. So unfairly discourages them having other woman to fight which of course is one intention of the haters of them.
And then the overall public harassment is a comment goal of haters of trans-persons, in hopes of discouraging transgender fighters from entering the sport given they would have to disclose their past medical history openly. Or to try to get them to quit …just like many are trying to get Fox to do!
Plus the guidelines provide sufficient balance and protections and doesn't need "must disclose" to opponents in advance!
So screw the haters for trying to make it hard on these fighters who have already qualified by the rules!
You're just a freaky bigot…not worth paying an attention to. So go stuff it!
The only way to resolve this issue, is for Mitrione to get a sex change operation and meet Fox in the center of the octagon to work out their dispute in heels!
in a very lady like manner
My bets would be on Fox then …Mitrione will be tripping all over the place!
Chael Sonnen said: "If the UFC lets Anderson Silva walk around with earrings and pink shirts and fight then it's alright to let Fox fight! His high pitched voice doesn't fool anyone!
Pink shirts and earrings doesn't mean someone is gay …much less transgender.
There is a real jackass on here…. Christopher! I guess you would support a 35 year man, lying about his age to fight in youth competition. I think your using the word "courage" to describe what you don't have the balls to do. C'mon out bruh!
yeah, Fallon Fox should get her license taken away or suspended for not disclosing sex change prior to the fight.
I hope that was intended to be a facetious comment!
But if not, let me say such "disclose in advance" claims are based on false assumptions, one being that she isn't comparable to other woman fighters, and that has not been proven thus far.
The argument is starting to become much more different from what I see now. It is more of an argument as to weather Fallon Fox is or is not a woman.
He was born a man, and all these bigots are saying he is a woman. These Bigots are no better than Bible thumpers it was written in the book so it is true WTF is the logic in that?
Who are they to tell me what is and what is not. How hard is it to see and not blur the lines. XX XY, if Fallon Fox would have been born a woman it would XX yet was born Boyd Burton with XY chromosomes and no ovaries.
Why is that so hard to see, there is scientific evidence that proves he is a MAN. FFS use some logic people.
Then you are going down the same ignorant rabbit-hole that the rest of the bigots have gone down….that of playing judge, jury and God of who is a man or a woman, and that is WAY beyond the scope of this issue for MMA fighting and for the minds of the bigots who try to sound like medical experts.
And anything beyond the fight-equality issue is really HER private business and haters often try to use these kind of issues an excuse to dump on the whole transgender reality in society (which reality has already been established in the related medical and psychological fields).
So with those boundaries in mind …we see you avoid the fight-muscle-hormone key aspects and attack her "supposed" DNA (just your pure assumptions as to what her's is to begin with) as if you were some genetics expert, and pretend there are no variances and variations in types of DNA ..for males or females. Fact is they tried that approach for the Olympic Games, but only for suspected sex indeterminate cases and found that highly athletic woman tended to have much more atypical DNA and HORMONAL variances, many which were more typically male-like than the average woman. So they STOPPED DOING BLANKET DNA TESTS!!
And that process never even applied to transgender athletes because their situation was about the gender identity of the athlete, and not some physical variance. And they have an entirely different set of criteria than any potential Intersex case. So apples and oranges.
So stop with the false "must have a certain physical marker/traits" and stop trying to apply any physical condition onto transgender persons ..those don't apply here. The only ones that do are of the type already prescribed by the medical trans-rules (mostly hormonal based and timelines/testing requirements) already well established and implemented by UFC in 2012, unless you can positively cite another potential advantage that would be 100% universal to trans-woman athletes vs cis-gender ones.
So it's not some basic "is she or isn't she" side-road argument here, but about competitive equality and competitive opportunity. And should stay that way.
Is Mr. Dana afraid of violating "freedom of speech"
wtf? Freedom of Speech applies vis-a-vis the goverment you tard.
If the government violates your freedom of speech, you have a freedom of speech issue.
Just curious. Are you mexican?
I like the subtle aspects of that question ..;-)
Matt violated his good conduct clause of his contract by making very personal attacks on another fighter (and one he will never fight himself) and just came across as a total hater and bigot, which reflected badly on both the UFC and MMA as a sport trying to get more acceptance and credibility with the general pubic …not just big mouth redneckss.
Bravo my man Matt Mitrione! I'm not interested in watching Fallon Fox fight unless one of the real lady fighters knox his lights out!
Matt was duly suspended so whoopee to you liking what he said …just shows how low of primate you are.
And since you can't predict if Fox will lose or win in any particular fight then you will have to watch her fight every time she goes into the ring …so see you at the fight in May then that she's been cleared to fight??
BTW, those who will watch to see her win or lose …Fox wins either way!! And for sure more will tune in to watch her fight now that Matt has helped make her even more famous!
I challenge any of the transphobic people on here saying 'a man is a man' to go read an article or two or 100 featuring stories of kids who very early on say things like, 'Mommy, I think god made a mistake'. Gender identity and sex are not always the same thing. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean its an abomination. Is the actual issue of fighting a tough one? Yes. But how about we try and deal with difference for once without burning people at the stake. And I am sure most of you are not fighters who are making all of these uneducated statements. I think MMAWeekly has done a great job reporting on this, BTW.
Mind you, you are talking to a typical MMA fan boy TUF noob crowd here.
Not exactly the smartest people on the planet.
That is true …those knee kicks to the head can do some real damage!
It has happened for centuries sometimes it is natures way of saying it messed up. It used to be called natural selection. now a days its just a second chance or resistance depending on the perspective.
Everyday it gets better and better for the LGBT community and its ok you equal human beings, yet it annoys that each and every day you guys are getting louder and louder for the stupidest reason or purpose on earth, you guys are really becoming annoying "us men get easily annoyed, treat us like pitbulls fair warning". it astounds me how irrational your community is I am personally discusted that you guys would rather come in and focus your attention on Fallon Fox than this here which in my opinion is horrendus http://www.prisonplanet.com/photo-of-gay-man-who-walked-through-muslim-suburb-of-paris-with-boyfriend-causes-shock.html
Who is worth fighting for, I say that guy I would help in the fight for him.
So please to the LGBT community all you other people who call me a bigot take a good long look at yourself I just for once realize that I will treat you with the upmost equal disdain I hold for everybody your not special you are just as stupid as the rest of society.
some people are born with deformities and that is sad. Fox was not one of these. Gender identity and sex are not the same thing and what should matter here in regard to mma is sex.
Fox's sex is now female and even been medically and legally so for about seven years now …so that is a done deal. Most comments try to deny that reality and use this sports aspect as an excuse to attack all of the trans-community and their medical and legal status across society.
Fox didn't have a deformity per sec, but a misalignment of her body and mind, and since being transgender is unchangable then a person has the right to change their bodies, to whatever extent, to match their mental gender identity.
But as much as sexual orientations other than opposite sex exists, so equally does gender orientations. Few people deny gays exist, but way too many still deny that transgender folks do. Yet it's suspected similar variances in the developmental in-womb stage creates either or both types in a person.
So being transgender is real for some people, the treatment options are well established and the medical and legal recognition exists in most states, as well as for jobs and many professional sports. So haters just need to accept those realities .. and get on their their own lives! And let others live their's!
MMA now allow woman and should continue to let trans-persons fight as the sex/gender they are. The rules for this are sufficient!
Fox is disgusting and should be thrown in jail for fighting women when he is a man.
Just stupidd trash-talk not worh a plugged nickel.
Feel better now you total bigot???
Just because he had surgery, he would still be physically different than a woman.
Different than average in some ways but very similar in others. But in the critical way, which is muscles type and strength, that is the critical aspect for MMA fighting. And that has to do with hormone type and duration (not even having GRS surgery). Plus keep in mind that even cis-gender woman (natal ones) have a wide variance in body size/build and muscle size/strength/stamina so one could find some woman with a body size/shape extremely close to Fox has at this point.
Fallon and other transgender woman ARE woman, even if they are not typical in all ways, but then very physical athletic woman tend to be atypical as a segment of woman to begin with (some are bigger, stronger, more testosterone naturally in their system, etc).
Just look at the top tier woman's basketball players, vollyball, and tennis players to see how untypical they tend to be compared to the average 5'4 size 14W woman. Thank goodness!
she used to have a **** for 30 years. is ok if ex he wants to change her sex, but it does not imply that she could fight a woman without advantage
You share no medical support for that view ….so not worth responding to except to suggest to go online and read in articles (like CNN) all she went through for years …and her lack of any male-style testosterone (noting that ALL natal woman have some T in their systems as well!)..
The required medical period is two-years of hormonal treatment and Fox went SIX years before her first MMA fight …so that is WAY enough time to lose any innate advantage!
How does someone born a man know what it feels like to be a woman and vice versa? It doesn't make sense to say you feel like a woman if you have never been one.
Don't use this narrow instance in order to attack the basis for anyone being transgender. Trans-persons exist, and re-assignment paths are well established, so doesn't need re-justification just because you are looking for excuses to challenge if they exist.
They do exist! ……now get over it.
Fallon Fox is against all of God's laws of nature. just a freak but the UFC gives this freak face time. disgusting and sad.
First of Joe Shine
Leave God out of this. Nature you can state God has no part in this at all.
Leave the UFC out of this they have absolutely no involvement, they are a company that hires individuals who make there own choices. Did you hear that comment from a UFC employee not a contractor "which all fighters are" no!
Get your facts strait. Also Give Christine Cyborg Santos the respect she deserves.
what idiot will end up kissing this freak Fox?? Cyborg?
Given what you're stated in all your trash comments perhaps you as an idiot will try to kiss this woman?
I would feel sorry for Fox if you did!
Fox needs to fight men,or all the transgender women she wants
That would be totally unfair since Fox is and has been a woman and a female,and doesn't have the testosterone that men have to build muscle and has been fully feminized head-to-toe.
But with her highly developed skills if she did she would put up one heck of a fight!
Got nothing against Fox,but no matter how many opreations and harmones you takw ,you are still a man.I think its chicken s***..I think Dana is a f****** Hypocrite,and unfair and he abuses his position.He has insulted a lot people himself..Mitrione made sense..he could toned it sown but he was very truthful.he is a man fighting woman.
Dana and the UFC are at no fault. They said nothing there contractor spoke not them. I cant hold you accountable for something you did not say. its not fair to you or anybody including the UFC.
Fortunately misinformed haters and bigots like you aren't in charge of who is a woman or man in society. Fallon has been medically and legally certified as a woman and female, and that is plenty good enough!
Matt is the idiot who grossly attacked this woman and in effect ALL woman in general as he acts like he's in charge of woman's bodies! He just needs to mind his OWN BUSINESS and not get involved in who fights on the woman's side of MMA.
Mitrione's very aggressive trash-talk only makes sense to other transphobic bigots!
Everybody please upvote this comment this is worth fighting for
Nick Newell to the UFC dude is a legit beast who is tearing people up with one hand. He is a Champion and a beast he needs to be challenged in the UFC.
Would it be a fair fight if a women turned man be an evenly matched with a man born man????? No it wouldn't, so its bulls*** that all this shemales lovers keep defending that guy or it thing.
Nothing like asking question that are twisted and answering them yourself. Talk about straw arguing!
And for any reason using "shemae" slander shows you are a total bigot against ALL those who are transgender and the trans-community. So you opin is worth about as much as what I flush after taking a dump. But mine smells much better than you!
You're not a freaking women your a MAN. Mr Fox
Oh …just because you say so?
Let's see…that's about as credible as a one y/o saying they are President of the United States.
Not credible at all. And doubt this excellent woman fighter,Fallon Fox, even gives a shitt what you think.
This is madness. The UFC suspended him for calling a spade a spade, yet this MAN is getting paid to knock out women??? Get Ronda Rousey on this bulls***, pronto.
Apparently you can't differentiate between stating an opinion and making slanderous hateful personal attacks.
So just how far down in the gutter is your mind?
Kick any kittens today??
Let her fight cris cyborg first then we'll see how bad she really thinks she is!
Sorry, I meant he! Hahaha
That's funny?…sounding like the bigot you are?
Must be that before you didn't sound hateful enough to your fellow KKK friends. Well, now you fit right in.
Christina-Xena forgot to take her estrogen pills this morning after she took her roids. She is feeling very hostile. Watch out.
More stupid cheap attacks by you …just your speed in life.
You define what a true loser is!
"I consider myself to be a pretty strong female, and she's hands down the strongest person I've ever fought," Alyssa Vasquez told MMAjunkie.com.
Vasquez faced Fox in an amateur bout in Rockford, Ill., this past April, and did so without any idea that Fox was a transgender woman.
"I thought she was taking steroids or testosterone or some type of enhancing substance," Vasquez said. "That's what I assumed."
Fox immediately shot for a takedown during her fight against Vasquez, achieved full mount and then finished the fight via armbar before the end of the opening frame. Vasquez said Fox's strength was evident almost immediately, which led her to suspect that the loss might not have been completely legitimate.
Then they should have called for a drug-test immediately which Fallon would have passed …oh, wait …they already test fighters after a fight!
Fact is Fallon is a dedicated fighter who trains hard and has a strong competitive mind-set, and willing to put in the time and effort to be a good fighter. Claiming she has some unfair bio-advantage or cheated somehow is just the talk of a poor loser!!
Alyssa …you lost because Fallon was the better trained and more skilled fighter ..get over it!!
"Alyssa …you lost because Fallon was the better trained and more skilled fighter ..get over it!!"
No she lost because Fallon Fox is a f****** man !
You have to be about the stupidest person alive if you beleive this thing doesn't have an extremely unfair advantage !
BOTTOM LINE: Fallon Fox is a CHEATER and you are a complete IDIOT for praising this piece of ****!
WHY do you like to beat up girls, ypu may have a transgender operation, but you still a GAY man, you p,o.s.
Yeeeee-hooooo…nothing like a total LGBT bigot flying their true colors!
The fact you even acknowledge that "gay men" exists also implies that transgender persons exist, since the causes of each characteristic (processes during pre-natal growth) are increasingly found to be very similar!
You can't accept one without accepting the other orientation also exists! …LOL! And if being transgender exists then as the true woman Fallon is she COULD be either lesbian or straight, or bisexual or Pansexual etc. since sexual orientation is a slightly different type of outcome than being transgender.
And it's you that is a total POS !!
Yeeee-hooooo! LOL!!
Mitrione was calling Fox a sick freak because he was a dude for 30+ years and now he beats up on women, it's twisted and I agree.
Of course a bigot like you would agree …sick hateful minds think alike. You calling her "he" shows you are a total transphobic and hater of all trans-persons.
Before her transition Fallon was a woman who was born male-bodied and then she transitioned her body to became female and aligned with her womanly mind and spirit.
Its happens, lots of times to lots of people …so get over it!
I guess the fact that he was raped repeatedly by her uncles and grandfather had nothing to do with it.
Sexual abuse has never been shown to "make someone gay or transgender" so is just more crappolla from you!
Calling Fallon "he" proves your are a stupid rude bigot, and therefore anything you claim is just lies, just like this claim of rape is!
Okay you want to be a woman and your man. Why must you be a woman that beats up other woman . Most women are not in MMA, can't you be satisfied as a transgender not in the MMA circle.
First of all SHE is a WOMAN, not "a transgender" and she is a woman AND female now, and has been for years. Secondly she isn't 'beating up" an opponent per sec but engaging in a ring fight competition …not some street brawl or bar fight. Thirdly being a transgender woman or man shouldn't place limits on what activities they get to paticipate with in life. The idea of being a "limited woman" is akin to saying someone is not good enough, and Fallon is plenty good enough as a woman/female AND as a MMA woman fighter …so she can do BOTH!!
lol "her facebook"
Fox is disgusting and vile. Giving up your crank doesn't make you a woman.
She went through a lot more than GRS …she is now a woman head-to-toe!
Let's see if he can conceive a child. Oops, not a woman. Still just a sick, disgusting freak.
Giving birth is NOT a requirement of being a woman …lots of cis-gender don't EVER have a kid! Fact is Fallon was a woman from birth (her mental gender) …it's only her assigned birth sex that was the problem, and now she's just fine with her transformed female body!
The real freaks in society are you backwoods redneckss!
Fallon Fox should be disgraced and thrown out of the human race.
Joe, you would be the first to go!
All he changed was his sexual organs. He still has the unfair mechanical advantages that God gave men in upper body strength. The category he should compete in is male.
Him hitting a female would be completely inappropriate, even if she was a technically superior fighter. The promoters may make a quick buck on this one, but they risk harming the sport by moving it from a sport to reality TV.
I won't be watching, a man hitting a woman just isn't honorable And drags the whole sport down. This makes us all out to just be a joke. Minestrone you should be re-I stated and lauded for defending the honor of all real fighters.
Men have a tremendous upper body strength advantage to women. Cutting off your little buddy doesn't change that. To have a real woman lose the women's championship to a man, whether he has disfigured himself or not would make this reality TV and not a real sport. If I I stall an electrical cord and sit on the kitchen counter with a slice of toast in my mouth doesn't make me a real toaster. It does call my sanity into question. May God help mr. Fox with his issues, but hopefully he will not add to them by hitting or grappling with any real women. I truely feel sorry for him, it must be a really horrible situation to be in, but I only watch real sporting events and I believe this is a promoter's game that lowers the whole sport. I would re-instate Mr. Mitrone.
Fallon Fox is disgusting and vile and sickening and makes me vomit.
All bigoted claims that reflect very badly on you …and nothing about this fine woman fighter!
Dane White is 100% wrong on the Matt Mitroine suspension. No more PPV's for me.
So you support open and public hate speech??
Joe Shine, sorry I couldn't reply earlier but I had to go show friends your post. Hey Emo child stick to whining about how kids like you who believe in nothing can't be trusted with a gun. You couldn't hike in my world, because you need values, strength, honor. Not exactly something Emos are know for. What part of my hike do you think you can hang on my time As an Infantry Officer, Border Patrol Agent or working on the same Federal Prison units John Gotti , the original World Trade Center Bombers and Tommy Karate Pitera. No weapons but your hands in Federal Prison for the Officers and back then no vests. No referees here. You know why kids like you kill other kids—believing in nothing, having no values you puke out the first time the going gets tough. You have no respect for anything, and in turn everyone laughs at you. You wouldn't go into a church or synagogue, because that would take discipline and humility to learn the wisdom of our ancestors. If Transgender people want to fight Transgender people, I fully support that, but a man hitting a woman is just sick, Emo garbage. I will pray that you develops the strength to handle the firearm freedoms that every generation has had the strength to handle.
Know Christ, know Peace, no matter what the battle.
Is this some catch-all spiel you unload in comment sections?? Not worth reading.
I am not a religious man yet I am a man of God.
Weapons guns and such is not a right or a choice it is a burden of man. I fear and worry when the new generation picks up its arms for it does not know the Burden placed among them. Men are not ready or capable let alone cognicent of the reponsibility and power they hold in there hands. There are not enough men ready and able to handle this burden let alone raise one to handle it. I love my Guns but I too hold the with contempt for the Burden it carries the Burden of being man which I deal with every day is heavy, yet being born a man I adjust and adapt to it there is no changing. You gotta be strong to make it, and you gotta be strong to handle it.
You can't make a geezer a women by putting him in a dress and chopping off his tackle. Fox should have confessed at the start it shows he is dishonest.
Such rude hateful phrasing and false statements. What trans-woman go through affects them from the inside out, and even their brain structure has been shown to change permanently in just six months on female hormones!
She was and is a medical and legal female and therefore there is no requirement to disclose her gender past to opponents. Plus she meet all disclosures for trans-fighters which were only established in 2012! So stop claiming she was dishonest …such claims are those of a transphobic bigot!!
Christina is a hate troll full of ignorance and intolerance. She is the most racist person you will every meet. You conservative-phobic piece of shiet.
You are such a liar. Trying to attack those like me who believe in the truth and in equality for ALL people, doesn't put me into your sick perverted hate category.
As always you are a total liar.
i feel that some of you guys are missing the point here. This guy then turned woman in later part of his life is technically stronger than a woman. He knocked out this woman in 39 sec. in his last bout. This is an issue of a man trying to make in a woman's sport which tech. he has an advantage and he knows it. Also not to mention that he failed to mention this on his application. if this is the case they need to let him fight in mens arena or in a transgender bout with some other guy who turned woman. I think the guys who think it okay for a man to hit a woman is okay and shows how your stance on this in your own views. Guys a man born a man will always be strong like a man and there are sometimes that woman are stronger than some of or nerds or less fortunate in this department, but, she is still tech. a man.
For someone who pretends to be "tech" savvy when it comes to the body of trans-woman you sure don't know what you're talking about! With the combination of no testosterone and with female hormones in their body their muscles go through a complete change/reduction and become very feminized in just two years. Since Fox went SIX YEARS before her first fight she is WELL OVER the required two years set by real tech savvy doctors! So any muscles and strength she has is strictly due to hard training!
Plus I have seen trans-woman who as their former guy self could bench press far over their own weight, then in just 2 years on full hormone regimen couldn't even do a male-style push-up! They could barely do eight girly push-ups!!
So please stop with all the false medical claims. And no!…after hormones and GRS she is NOT tech a man ….far from it …she is a woman AND female!
Roy, i disagree with you on freedom of expression, this has nothing to do with his freedom or his rights. what about the women that he fought and did not let them know he is a man that turn women. what about their right to know that he is a man and let them make the decision to fight or not. I think you feel it okay to hit a woman and just because he turned fagg in later part of his life, he has no right to fight women in a ring. fight a man if you really are a man….
Wow! You are such a total transphobic and homophobic bigot! Been to any good KKK rallies recently???? Sad to say but you are truly not much of a real man if you have to trash-talk on anyone and them being themselves.
Believe it or not the KKK is changing they are becoming more tolerant, we should accept them and take them into our society if not you are KKK Phobic and a bigot, it seem's as if the survivalist instinct has kicked in n their pea brains trust me I know I have seen them because I am total stranger on the internet professing my allegiance to Boyd Burton.
Sad to say this but you are truly not a human being if you dont act civil and appropriate, calling everyone a bigot and phobic wont get you no where.
Your a freaking human being act like one and re-think your ideologies cause you are heading down a slippery slope Idiocracy.
For there to be truly peace there must be no soldier. The greatest instrument of war is man and his ideology our history of violence must be changed through eliminating our soldier they are our true weapons they are us. We must look for more within us and less outside of us. What we have inside is more valuable than whats out for value is internal as it is eternal.
Fox went through puberty as a Man, has bone density of a Man, muscle density of a Man. The Politically Correctness of this stinks to high heaven.She-He should NOT be able to fight as a woman. This whole issue of these freakish Trans – Genders is creepy.
Can we say "transphobic hater" of all trans-persons?!!
Anytime you attempt to de-sex AND de-humanize someone it really just shows what YOU are …and that is a shameful excuse for a human being!…much less as a man.
I like how the majority get all mad that a guy is hitting women, but hosts of men blame the women if they get raped. A really confusing culture. You figure with all this chivalry 1/6 boys and 1/4 women wouldn't be molested or raped with all of these super strong righteous men out there defending our communities…
hey , you aint a chick ! i know man but thats the only way i
can b.s my way into beating up women . imo this dudes a women beater and legally getting away with it .
You get the "most stupidd" award of the comments section, claiming anyone would undergo full social and medical gender transition in order to fight woman …LOL! …you are such a loony!
You know what… you can alter your looks and call yourself a woman but your strength will always be that of a man.. so yes I call this unfair and should not be allowed unless she is fighting another transgender fighter.
Another fake doctor I see. Hormone therapy has a tremendous affect on the human muscular structure! …and after her testosterone is gone (note natal woman have some naturally!) then her muscles become the same as other woman. She only started training and building them well after her medical transition and then was four years later before her first fight (the requirement is only two years in ALL!)
I have seen fairly muscled body builders lose all their male mass in just two years, and look completely female. And Fallon has now gone over eight years!!
Actually Freak Fallon, you look like a damn dog.
She looks a lot better than your mother!
You are NOT a woman!
Blah, blahh …blahhhhh …same ole unsupported crappolla! Yawwwwwnnnnnnnn.
….but you're a man…..!
That's not your call, nor are you above the law.
So you are WRONG!
But she's a man. Law has nothing to do with it. I don't have anything to do with it. You don't have anything to do with it.
Just because you cut off his Johnson doesn't make him a woman.
Genetically, he's a man.
Why argue that?
That's a major "load" you are carrying …in effect to claim you speak the absolute truth! Fact is we don't do at-brith sex-assignments (and that is all that is ….a assignment ..whether right or wrongly so) based on an infant's DNA …(though in rare cases some Intersex cases may test and consider that as one factor but not the sole factor, and a gender assignment may in fact be delayed until the gender identity of the child is able to be expressed and observed). And neither is DNA even a factor in transgender cases and sex RE-assignments later on by society.
Also you fail to distinguish between the public's due interest in someone's medical business and their own private ones. The use of DNA for public purposes is limited to "matching up" later on and only if the person becomes a convicted criminal at some point.
Next this is about gender identity, and you suggesting some physical aspects tries to eliminate that as the most important over-riding aspect for the INDIVIDUAL. And government has no business trying to force someone to live as one sex or the other …this isn't some dictatorship type society!
Plus DNA varies like crazy and is a poor test for sex overall, as they found out when they tried it for the Olympic Games..
So DNA is DOA for sex-assignment …and will stay that way!!
NOT A WOMAN END OF STORY,,,DRs WILL SAY WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD BUT FALLON WILL ALWAYS BE A MAN
Blame the doctors….yea right. Fact is a surgeon is the last person a trans-person usually sees, and then years after their social transition. So stop with all the "talked them into it" crappolla. And Fallon was NEVER a man inside, she's ALWAYS been a woman and in time her body/sex was allowed/made to match her womanly mind (don't forget not, gender is in the mind, sex is just a few physical aspects).
PS And shouting in all caps is so childish!
Boyd literally went to a Thai surgeon who sole duty is to do gender changes. He went to Thailand bypassed medical reviews and psychological exams here in the states. So in essence what David said is half right. Talked into going the cheapest way possible without AMERICAN medical board reviews both physical and psychological that in essence is cheating.
Boyd Burton is a liar that is a fact. Try to dispute please you ignorant biased bigoted terrorist of logic and fact and sensibility.
Mama said knock you out
LL Cool J Circa 1989
Whoever suspended him is the biggest bitch ever. I used to like Dana White but he is the biggest bitch ever. Trying to control what fighters have to say. What is that? Also, this guys Fallon Fox, yes he's a guy, is just playing the victim role like a bitch. Guess what you may act like a woman but physically you're not a woman and you never will be no matter what surgery you get. Your able to produce higher levels of testosterone no matter what. If the gay and lesbian community approves someone who has been a man for 30 years of his life beating up other woman than that's just sad and disgusting on their part.
No, Matt was being an open bigot and doing personal attacks instead of speaking directly to the issue at hand.(the medcal fairness issue in terms of fight-aspects).
As it is Mitirone came across as an anti-LGBT hater and someone who is totally transphobic. It's not even his business to decide who can fight and in what segment/division as he is simply someone who fights based on a contract, not a AFC owner or invested partner, and way over-stepped his boundaries and legal position..
No doubt you support his open hate rant cause you are just as much a hater as he is.
And being the winner of a fight event does not mean they "beat up" on someone else.
you are BORN either a man or a woman. a few are BORN as a llittle of both. society accepts all 3 and even has a soft spot for the latter. but when you are MADE a woman and you USE that to BEAT UP other WOMEN and MAKE MONEY, then being called a freak is too soft a term my friend….
Being a man or woman is a MENTAL aspect including gender identity. Sex is about the sex characteristics and trans-woman do get very function primary parts and all the secondary ones with hormones and surgery, so don't confuse being a woman with someone being a born female. Fox was born with a woman's mind and finally got her male-born body to more closely match her womanly mind by becoming a female, even if not totally a typical one. Trans-woman are simply just another type of woman.
Plus all that many sports require, including MMA is to suppress testosterone to NORMAL FEMALE levels, or lower for two years prior to fighting, then to take some female hormones. Plus implying Fox became a woman in order to "beat on" OTHER woman or to make money is an ignorant and twisted view! So not true!!
This freak should be executed for his crimes against nature.
You are one sicko transphobic hater. I suspect the law enforcement where you live have you on their monitor list …you need to be! You are a danger to all society!!
Boyd is a human being I wont execute one for lying, but I will expel him from fighting women.
Her name is Fallon Fox …at least call her by her legal name you total bigot! And you aren't in charge at all, so trying expelling that reality.
suspension lifted , more supporters for Mitrione than Boyd Burton. Logic is safe for one more day and an innocent man went through his due process. Today is a good day and I am happy to give my money to the UFC to watch great men and warriors perform at UFC 159 tomorrow.
Would like to see Sonnen win for nostalgia WWF not WWE nostalgia.
Yet Jon Jones is the truth greatest combat athlete ever? We will see.UFC159
I gotta say today was a good day -Ice Cube
you are a class act.
like the disease that is affecting your brain?
© 2013 MMA Weekly All Rights Reserved.