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Topic: The longevity of prog (and rock) music
Posted: March 18 2014 at 10:37
What will happen with the prog rock we hear today in, say, 100 years? Will it still be here? Will it still be known? I ask because as of right now it's difficult to ascertain the longevity of any artist or genre in rock music in general. The oldest truly popular rock artist today might be Elvis and he's still not really that old or that popular anymore. Yes, our bands like Yes, Genesis, KC, etc, are still revered and popular among prog fans but at least a good percentage of the people listening to them are people who were fans from the start, in those bands' heyday.
I'm talking right now about levels of longevity like the ones that some classical composers (check my avatar). Even if few people will still listen to music composed by them, even in 100 years they will probably still be studied and their music still used, if only in academic settings (I certainly hope not).
But what about rock and prog artists? I think The Beatles might be the ones legitimately aiming for immortality, true immortality (like in "everybody who watched us perform live is dead and their children too" immortality). Opinions?
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 10:44
Interesting question I have thought about a fair but myself.
My take is that the way that music is not only recorded, but, crucially, retained now in digital format, makes it far more likely that digital age music will last a lot longer than much of the analogue age.
Having said that, there is a truism. Classic culture, be it poetry, prose, music, art, whatever, always stands the test of time, and will always be enjoyed.
Therefore, I truly believe that in some 200 years time The Beatles, Floyd, and other massively influential artists will still be listened to and discussed and played.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 10:55
Good question. One of those "time will tell" situations. Some of the original Rock & Rollers from the 1950s have already been forgotten. What used to be the local "Oldies" station now won't play anything earlier than about 1965 simply because of the aging demographic and the need to appeal to slightly younger listeners. They are far more likely to play Hall & Oates rather than Little Richard. The big band jazz singers my grandparents used to listen too haven't been on the radio in decades. It's always out with the old and in with the new. Forget what came before you, it's today that matters. If not for this wonderful website I would not have half the Prog bands in my collection that I do now. There are so many good bands I had not even heard of until discovering PA. If not for us loyal followers of a music that many shun it would most likely disappear. A sobering thought indeed. I love classical music too, but the city I live in (Kansas City) doesn't even have a classical music radio station! There are few people I know who actually enjoying listening to it. I'm sure the music will always be there to be studied as you indicated though.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 11:09
I'd base my
answer to that question not only on the quality but on the quantity of prog music
having being released over the last 40 or so years alone.
Apart from that I'm fairly certain that the future will contain its fair share of Brintneys, Gagas and Justins for the masses.
Edited by npjnpj - March 18 2014 at 11:16
I like the music of any era, regardless of when it was made.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 12:20
Hmm...I think the 'will prog rock last ' discussion was done not that long ago on a similar thread but at any rate imho if it's good music, no matter the genre, it will last.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 14:33
As long as there is recorded media there will always be niche interest in whatever has been recorded.
We have lost so much music from the past 400 years because it was never recorded. Music from the past only stood the test of time because a succession of later musicians perpetuated its popularity or rediscovered and reintroduced it, in the days before recorded media and mass publication of musical score in the form of sheet-music, manuscripts were hand-written and few in number. If a compose fell out of fashion, or wasn't widely known, the chances of any of their work surviving is slim.
With vinyl, tape, CD and digital media we have the ability to not lose anything (though I fear if we put all our faith in teh interweb then we could lose everything), and if it is there then there will be people who want to hear it. 20 to 40 years ago it would be unheard of to find the electronic music of Dr. Samuel J Hoffman (1940s) or Daphne Oram (1950s) in a record store, but now I can hear them on YouTube and buy the album from Amazon.
And if we can obtain and hear this music then there will be musicians who will be inspired by it. The longevity of a genre is a natural consequence of that genre being created and documented - genres may go in and out of fashion but they are always there somewhere, they never completely die away.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 14:35
A separate question is whether the human race will survive another 200 years. If we don't, maybe the hardier species remaining on the planet can still enjoy all those Yes and Genesis albums. Ah. But what will they play them on? Who will pay for the electricity? This poses a problem. I hope it doesn't come to that.
Assuming we do, in all seriousness, I'd say maybe 1% of all the great music today will still be remembered 200 years from now. Luckily, thanks to Bandcamp, that still comes out to a couple of million bands.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 14:51
Strangely enough, I was talking about this t'other day, and I raised this.
Like most of a certain age, I started off on vinyl and cassette, and then embraced the cd era.
When the download era started off on teh interweb, I embraced this as well, until seeing you making the (very cogent) argument on this site about the temporary nature of such things. Since then, I have gone back to buying cd only, in other words having a physical copy. I have also converted all of my (legal ) downloads onto CD-r as well, just in case.
The example of MySpace is a very good one here. Shed loads of money and content, all gone. I am sure there are others .i cannot put my mind to, as well.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 18:03
It helps if the instrumentation and talent for playing it survives. The violin has pretty much stayed the same since Stradivari made his. However, it remains to be seen if "wire on wood" (Fripp's term for playing electric guitar) will survive in another fifty or 100 years. Already, we see that electric guitars & basses are being shunned by the youngest generations in favor of computer games & other diversions.
The phrase "rock is dead" has been bandied about for many years, so I'm far to proclaim it over. However, all popular musical forms seem to wane. How many of us go out to hear barbershop-quartet music, for example? Once hugely popular, this is now very much a niche (I've sung a bit of it, so I know!).
By the time any of us would have to worry about it, we'll be dust. I'm very happy to have lived through the original wave of prog music and now its renaissance. Something tells me that very good music will survive in some form, if not intact as we hear it.
Much of the music we love is now forty years old, or older. I sometimes wonder what the lads in the dormitory at college would have done if I regularly played forty-year-old music in 1973? I think I would have been pitched out of an open window. The fact that we listen to this stuff DAILY (I just enjoyed "Going For The One," a fantastic work!) speaks for itself. Also, I'm heartened that younger generations are being turned onto the music.
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|Post Options Quote Reply Posted: March 18 2014 at 19:00
Perhaps rock music will even die long before that 100 years is over, but I think we all know what happens in 2112.
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The classic prog bands won't reach near the level of the great composers, partly because there just wasn't as much music before the 20th century, and partly because they aren't as good. I think their music will last more than anything other than classical, jazz and the Beatles though.
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Do apes even like music?
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I bet they do.
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Gentle Giant created a new form of music according to Keith Emerson so I think their music will be studied by academics way into the future. The rest will be regarded as a passing fad imo. The Beatles are not prog so they don't count.
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Tongue in your not inconsiderable cheek?
Very good idea for a thread certainly. It should be borne in mind that even in my lifetime (I'm 51) Prog was relegated to that 'unclaimed fart in the elevator' circa 1979 when no-one would be seen dead admitting to liking it (apart from those routinely ostracized and ridiculed for same i.e. Hippy Prog fans) However, as Dean points out, the vagaries of fashion do not change the quality of what is being appraised. Given that the digital realm has now preserved so much of our musical past (though storage mediums still wither) here's a word of warning about the negative side of longevity by way of an anecdote:
Phillip Glass studied under Nadia Boulanger and she told him that the weakness of American composers was their having no sense of history. Glass responded to the effect that this was their strength i.e. innovation can often be curtailed by an immersion in the past
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For an approximate idea of how today's (or yesterday's) music will be regarded in 100 years time, just consider how we currently regard the music of 100 years ago.
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I was very impressed with the Downmat 7 and had used it on several extended ski mountaineering trips. The insulation worked very well preventing heat loss when sleeping on snow which was the whole point.
My friends were using Thermarests supplemented with closed cell pads (thinsulite), carrying two sleeping pads seemed to ad a fair amount of bulk, however weight was not significantly more.
Only one problem Downmat only works if inflated and if the valve fails (twice now, both times replaced by d/m) you are going to be sleepless until you get home. I could not figure out a way to repair or rig the broken valves in the field.
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I'm getting older and softer and this pad caught me up 10-15 years. A bit tricky at first to learn how to inflate, then it's GREAT. Light, compact and self contained. You'll love it.
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Brilliant. Incredibly warm, incredibly comfortable. Kicks Therm-a-Rest. You can choose to pack it in quarters - incredibly short but fat and dumpy - or in half which makes it longer, but thinner. Handy! Stuffsack makes a good pillow.
Inflation tip. Smash the pump sack hole onto the valve. Push real hard, and it'll sit much further on and not pop off during inflation. Don't bother to roll up the sack fully to pump it, just kind of roll it once and crumple it and pump. Works a treat.
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I bought my Downmat 7 a couple of months ago and have just had the opportunity to use it this past weekend. I decided it was time to update my sad little blue foam pad with something a little more technical and, let's face it, useful.
I spent about two hours deciding between the Exped Downmat 7 short and the Thermarest Women's Prolite 4. Basically they were the same price when you added the cost of a stuffsack to the Prolite, but the Downmat is a lot thicker and supposedly warmer (higher R-value) which is important to me as I always wake up cold in the middle of the night.
The only "downside" of the Downmat is the short length I chose - the long one seemed unnecessary as I am 5'5" and typically sleep while hiking with my feet on my backpack, in addition to the significant added weight of the long mat which is also a lot heavier than the Prolite 4. However, if you can't get past the fact that your feet are not on the pad and weight is not a huge issue, then I would still go for the Downmat.
I did do some test runs at home before taking it out (just in case I wanted to return it for some reason!). All I can say after using it this weekend is that I'm in LOVE. After a tough 6 hour hike with a lot of elevation gain (read: every muscle was sore) I woke up the next day feeling GREAT. This pad feels more like a mattress than a sleeping pad; you will not notice any rock, bump or tree root underneath you. I did not slide off it at all even though the tent was on a bit of a slant (maybe something to do with the "tube" construction?) and I actually slept through the night without getting cold.
A nice feature is a simple thing - two tabs on one end that you can attach a pillow too which effectively lengthens the pad a little. As for pumping it with the stuff sack, it only take about a minute or two but I usually find that the sack pops off the mattress nozzle at least once which sets me back...still working on my technique there. And I have topped it off with a breath or two to fully inflate it although even when I didn't do this I didn't actually notice any loss of comfort.
Maybe I would be enthusiastic about anything better than the blue foam at this point but I stand by my decision and strongly endorse this pad for comfort and warmth.
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GEORGETOWN, SC (WMBF) – After touring the destruction left by the Front Street Fire, Governor Nikki Haley assured the gathered crowd that Georgetown is going to be okay.
"Georgetown is open for business," Gov. Haley said, encouraging people to support the businesses that are still open. "These were small businesses. These were mom and pops who got hurt."
In total, seven historic buildings were severely damaged or destroyed by the fire that ripped through the town's historic district early Wednesday morning, and 10 businesses in total are affected by the fire.
"We will rise through the ashes," Gov. Haley said.
Georgetown County EMS director Sam Hodge confirmed that the loss from this fire is 10 businesses and about 130 jobs.
"Now begins the investigation," Hodge said. "Georgetown Police and state investigators are going to find out what happened."
Georgetown Police Chief Paul Gardner added that the State Law Enforcement Division's arson team is on site, looking into reports about the fire starting outside one of the buildings.
"This is definitely one we leave to the pros," Chief Gardner said. "This is why we have ATF and SLED's arson team down here."
Later in the afternoon, as crews sifted through rubble, one SLED agent stopped a backhoe long enough to pull out a damaged electrical conduit from Limpin' Jane's. He then proceeded to take several photos of the damaged equipment.
"Investigations are already underway," Gov. Haley said. "This is how it should be done."
Georgetown Fire Chief Joey Tanner admitted that there was initially a water volume problem when fighting the fire, but disputed reports of a slow response time. He said there was a four-minute response time.
"Yes, it may have taken a few extra minute to get the ladder truck up," Tanner said. "Life safety was first." Crews worried first about evacuating any residents in the threatened area, he said, then focused on fighting the fire.
Jeanette Ard, a Georgetown Councilmember and local businesses owner, lost her business and her home in the fire.
"She lost her business," Gov. Haley said. "She lost her home above it. She's also committed to the fact that we're going to build it back up again."
Ard said that she brought her business to Front Street during a period of revitalization for the area.
"Now we're going to have another revitalization thanks to the help of the state and the community," Ard said.
Gov. Haley confirmed that because the fire was not a natural disaster, Georgetown is not eligible for funding from FEMA. However, she said she is looking what they can do from a historical and tourism aspect.
Haley said that funding is "going to be more private."
Haley said that a Front Street Fire Relief fund has been set up, and donations can be made at any First Citizens Bank.
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While many of our trees were losing their leaves this fall, I received a picture from Hermitage historian Jim Sharp of a Gingko tree in full yellow glory at The Hermitage Home of Andrew Jackson.
He said it was the oldest tree on the plantation and had survived the 1998 tornado that took out so many beautiful trees.
I was curious to know whether Andrew Jackson himself had planted it, since Gingkos are native to China.
Tony Guzzi, VP, Preservation & Site Operations and Marsha Mullin VP, Museum Services & Chief Curator tell me that no one knows for sure if he planted it or not.
They estimate that it is 150-200 years old and it was seen in photos taken at The Hermitage during the 1890s when it already had a stout trunk. Gingko trees grow very slowly after 40 years of age.
Andrew Jackson died in 1845, so it was definitely there during his lifetime.
One good thing about the Gingko tree at The Hermitage is that it is male and does not produce the terrible odor that gingkos are known for.
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Tampa, Fla. • In the sea of delegates at the Republican National Convention, there's one group of Mitt Romney fans that doesn't just think he's a great candidate, they think he's a great friend.
Although Romney was born in Michigan and lived most of his life in Massachusetts, Utah has adopted him as a favorite son, and many Republicans from the Beehive State have their personal stories of rubbing shoulders with Romney.
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"This is my third time as a delegate, [and] it's the first time where I feel like a friend, someone I know, is the nominee," says former Utah House Speaker Dave Clark.
For most Utahns, the Olympics was their first introduction to the man now leading the Republican ticket this fall.
Romney swooped in after a scandal rocked the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, and many in the state credit him for leading the Games away from financial disaster and saving the state from embarrassment.
Tack on the four years Romney lived in Utah while at Brigham Young University, the home he owned in Deer Valley for years and, of course, the Mormon faith he shares with about 60 percent of Utahns and you've got a very excited hometown crowd cheering on their local-kid-does-good.
Utah Republican Party Chairman Thomas Wright noted that the delegation landed fairly good seats at the Tampa Bay Times Forum, near Romney's running mate Paul Ryan's home-state delegation from Wisconsin and a confetti toss from where Romney will accept the nomination Thursday.
"Governor Romney hasn't forgotten his friends in Utah," Wright told the delegation early Monday.
Beyond some friends Romney has in Utah's convention group, there're also some with closer ties: Rep. Jason Chaffetz has served as a surrogate for Romney across the country; Kirk Jowers, the head of the University of Utah's Hinckley Institute of Politics, worked as a lawyer for a pro-Romney political action committee; and Taylor Leavitt is the son of ex-Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt who is now heading up Romney's transition team should he win the White House.
One of Romney's sons, Josh Romney, is a delegate, too.
The Utah Republicans in Tampa heard from Josh Romney on Monday and are hoping to see other Romney family members attend the delegation meeting later this week, but the former Massachusetts governor isn't expected to drop by.
Then again, as Gov. Gary Herbert notes, he doesn't need to because the Utahns have already shaken his hand many times before.
"I think I know him pretty well," says Herbert, who first met the Republican White House contender when Herbert was a Utah County commissioner during the Olympics. "I consider him a friend. He's called me a friend."
Utahns have contributed about $4.8 million to Romney's campaign so far this cycle and that's in addition to millions some businesses in the state have forked over to a super political action committee backing his candidacy. And, as Herbert noted, it's a very good bet that Utah will vote for Romney come November. The last time the Beehive State went for a Democratic presidential candidate was in 1964, when Lyndon B. Johnson defeated Barry Goldwater in a landslide.
House Majority Leader Brad Dee says Utahns have had the opportunity to see Romney's personal side, know his family and have witnessed his ability to lead.
"To me, he's a very approachable person," Dee said. "That's the side the nation needs to see. We in Utah already know that side."
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What impact do you imagine if positive recognition and appreciation were expressed in the ~home~ in a public way so others could see?
Positive recognition affirms us. In a family, where we come from - what impact do you imagine positive words of recognition and appreciation for: the efforts we make, things we do, or who we are, can have on a family, an individual, and/or a child?
IF you feel like taking this one step more ... assuming you have concluded that it would be a good impact, how do you imagine it would affect the future of that person?
Is positive recognition and appreciation a powerful thing to you?
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pat gilbert 100+Jan 29 2013: Based off of the empirical evidence seen around helicopter moms and the scoreless sports leagues. It would appear the kid gets a sense of entitlement without any sense of exchange or accomplishment or effort.
I would say giving a kid a false sense of worth or esteem is as bad as a false sense of low self esteem.
Feb 1 2013: Hi Pat,
I am blessed to have a psycho-therapist for a mom and she has a breadth of experience; from family counseling, marriage counseling and working with youth inside of our military bases (worldwide). I mentioned to her the views of yourself, and Bob, and she concurred. The language is the key: praise vs appreciation. Praise vs 'positive' recognition.
Praise is defined as: to express approval or admiration of; commend; extol (verb).
Appreciation is defined as: gratitude; thankful recognition (noun)
Recognition is defined as: the acknowledgment of something as valid or as entitled to consideration. Or, the acknowledgment of achievement, service, merit, (noun)
(footnote on definitions. there exist more than one, I chose these to be most applicable ... :-) )
I suspect that you, and the others, worry about unearned and misplaced praise. My mom admits that this IS becoming a problem in our youth and it is leading to social development problems, which may or may not translate into their adulthood. It is something that is growing in our workplaces too. Or, as someone else exampled, our volunteer programs.
My questions rests more on the words: appreciation and positive recognition. They seem to define: that a person has evaluated, or considered, the action, or person; determined it, or them, to have earned, or been found worthy of, expressions of merit. I believe that is why appreciation and positive recognition can be so powerful. Perhaps we intrinsically know that to receive those expressions, it has been determined to warrant such expression.
What are your thoughts?
I think of Pavlov a lot ... especially with trying to bring up kids! What follows what ... :-)
pat gilbert 100+Feb 2 2013: Actual communication, nice.
I prefer to think of it as an acknowledgment or a reward. It reality you control people with the acknowledgment. If someone is not willing to do something he is not going to do it. But if you treat them with respect and understanding and good communication they will climb Mount Everest for you.
The key I think is to acknowledge the act or accomplishment. The danger is in acknowledging them for just being there or praise for nothing.
This actually is quite ubiquitous, a few examples:
Getting paid for being there and not what you produce. Getting paid time and a half for being there longer and probably because you were slow. The pay is the acknowledgment but not for production as it should be but for "being there"
Sports without keeping score. The acknowledgment is for being there not for winning. Life is a game and there are definitely winners and losers. Learning how to win is one of life's most important lessons. And the academics say sports are superfluous, when I look at them I can see why they say that.
Welfare and unemployment extension. The acknowledgment is for being non-productive. Let alone workers comp or disability. The country is turning into a bunch of marshmallows.
If I guy comes up with a great invention that raises the standard of living of everyone he gets taxed to death. The acknowledgment is not only if you are dysfunctional we will take of you but also if do something excellent we will punish you.
If you stand out from the collective also know as peer pressure we scorn you. The acknowledgment is scorn for not fitting in, so the collective has stated that there must not be any prejudice of any kind. The problem is that this has gotten to the point that you cannot evaluate the value of anything as this can be interpreted as prejudice. The problem is that this makes people stupid as one of the primary requirements of intelligence is the weighing of things.
Feb 2 2013: Pat and Elizabeth,
Your exchange started with Pat's comment...."I would say giving a kid a false sense of worth or esteem is as bad as a false sense of low self esteem."
I agree with this statement, and everything you both have written, as this perspective evolved. I also agree that a sense of entitlement is emerging in our culture....perhaps based on the fact that kids are given a false sense of worth, and are not required to put any effort into the process.
This seems sometimes difficult to balance, because we want to encourage and support people in the life journey, and let them know that they are valuable without "weighing of things", as Elizabeth says, so sometimes we may go overboard with praise and forget to reinforce the piece about cause and effect? Actions and consequences? If we consider these elements, which I think are important, there IS a "weighing" process, by which we consider the "value" of something/someone.....yes?
My perception is that we can offer each other all the elements with respect, appreciation, consideration, authenticity and honesty. I believe that we can incorporate all the "tools" necessary to support balance......WHEN we are genuine, authentic and honest....which, of course is another "tool" we can pass on to others:>) What do you think?
Feb 2 2013: A fundamental teacher is the culture.
The government has perverted the culture to one of entitlement.
As I stated earlier the key is the acknowledgment and the examples I gave.
And the key to that is acknowledging the accomplishments not the person.
A big factor is that the free market forces in objectivity not subjectivity as then the individual attention is extroverted rather than in the case of the entitlement introversion. Extroverts have their attention on the objective which puts them at cause introverts have their attention on themselves which puts them at effect.
Examples of this are ubiquitous:
Hollywood is filled with the Paris, Lindsey, Kim types who are addicted to attention which puts their attention on themselves and puts them at effect which is the primary reason they auger. This is the primary malady with all of the child stars who become effect through this simple mechanism
The current POTUS is also effect through this mechanism.
The movie Spinal Tap a parody of rock stars and how crazy they get with this addiction to attention and being effect. In one scene one of the musicians was very insistent that they have M&M candies of only a certain color in the dressing room.
Feb 2 2013: Pat,
I agree that culture, and what is accepted and/or rejected by the culture certainly influences behaviors within the culture. I do not agree that the government has, all by itself, "perverted the culture". After all, we, as citizens are part of the government.....yes?
I agree that it helps to seperate the person from the accomplishments, and that is a difficult perception to embrace, although very possible:>) My mom always said....love the man...hate the behavior.....so as a child, I learned to seperate the behavior from the person. It is not, however, an easy concept to embrace if one is not regularly exposed to it. We, in our society, can certainly continue to encourage it:>)
I do not agree with your perception of extroverts/cause...introverts/effect. I believe those who exhibit extrovert OR introvert behaviors can ALL experience the concept of cause and effect. I personally tend to have BOTH extrovert AND introvert behaviors at different times in my life, and I can tell you that the lesson of cause/effect/consequence was firmly taught to me, understood, and embraced as a child:>)
Feb 2 2013: Yes the government absolutely influences the culture and has created one of entitlement through welfare, the CRA and owning a house is a right, WIC, medicare, student loans, and a alphabet soup of other benefits. As one who voted for Obama this is something you do not understand. As to we are the government yes that is true and I suppose the most evil there is is the the entity that no one takes any responsibility for which government is the embodiment.
The introvert/extrovert thing is specific to the subject. E.G. Celebrities are obviously extroverts but but their attention is on themselves.
Your disagreements are duly noted.
Feb 2 2013: Dear Pat,
I DO understand what you are talking about....I have read MANY of your comments:>)
I take responsibility for MY PART in the government process, and that's all I can do. It doesn't really help to talk about what everybody else is doing....nor is it relevant to me to try to determine where celebrities attention is focused. We do not KNOW what is going on in the mind and heart of other individuals, and anything we try to project is simply speculation.......in my humble opinion:>)
I sincerely hope that my AGREEMENTS are duly noted as well:>)
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Regular folk drive up America's Pikes Peak in about 45 minutes. In winning The Race to the Clouds, the hill climb up the mountain, French rally legend Sebastien Loeb cut 80 percent off the time.
Every year in late June, Eric, his wife, Mary, and her mother, Mary-Jo, leave their home in Kansas and cross the state line for an American road trip. This year, Mary-Jo wanted to see Colorado, first the small city of Pueblo, then Colorado Springs and then on to the highpoint - an assault on 'America's Mountain': Pikes Peak.
It was on this mountain 120 years ago, on July 22, 1893, that the lyrics to the immortal anthem America the Beautiful came to songwriter Katharine Lee Bates, "and I probably won't be around for the130th anniversary," says the elderly Mary-Jo in the backseat of the Volvo, her white ringlets bobbing in the rear-view mirror.
The road winds around the famous mountain, a beloved American holiday destination. One curve follows another with no end in sight, each of them steeper and narrower than anything the three road trippers were familiar with in their native Kansas. Mary grips the ceiling handle nervously, but Eric has everything under control. There are hardly any guide rails on the side of the mountain road and Eric has to resist the urge to peer over the edge. Tyre marks scar the narrow curves - so narrow that Eric has to come to a halt to see around each bend.
Soon, the family becomes aware of a number of tyre marks leading straight out, over the edge of the abyss. Mary gasps for breath in the passenger seat. In the back, Mary-Jo grins in apparent delight. "Altitude euphoria," mutters Eric as he navigates the next serpentine turn. "What have they got me into?"
An icy wind is blowing when they reach the summit of Pikes Peak; the 12.4-mile ascent has taken them 45 minutes. The three Kansans turn their gaze east, to the Great Plains from where they have come -hundreds of miles laid out before them like a vast, crumpled map.
In the souvenir shop they buy an ashtray, a sweatshirt and a few fridge magnets. Then it's time to start their descent. Some 1,440mbelow, skillful mechanics are putting the finishing touches to a small fleet of high performance cars and motorbikes. The following day, these vehicles will tackle 20 of the most legendary kilometres in American road racing, when they take part in the 91st running of the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. The Unsers, the Andrettis, the Millens, all of them have proved their mettle here - in the infamous mountain race to the summit.
In the late 1980s, the Europeans left their mark on this race for the first time, pulverising the course record with a succession of rally cars. With four-wheel drive and upwards of 500hp, they tore through the 11-minute barrier on the gravel road to the summit.
The famous road was laid with asphalt in 2012. At this point an ambitious local could manage it in 11 minutes, but that was too slow to break any records. By the end of 2012, the 9 Minute Club - comprising those daring drivers who'd made the summit in less than 10 minutes - was five-strong. New Zealander Rhys Millen held the record with a time of 9:46.164, with French driver Romain Dumas 0.017 seconds behind in second. Making up the five was Japan's Nobuhiro Tajima and the two motorbike riders, Carlin Dunne of the USA and his compatriot, Greg Tracy.
The latter pair didn't use petrol or diesel on their way up to the summit in 2013; instead they trusted their fortunes to electric energy. Indeed, this was in many ways a race made for the electric engine: conventional petrol-burning motors have to cope with performance loss at high altitudes. Despite large turbochargers and advanced electronics, there simply isn't enough oxygen to burn. Anyone who makes it to these heights having surrendered a quarter of the horsepower they had in the valley has really done their homework.
Electric cars don't have this problem, of course, but their batteries - even in a relatively short race like this - are heavier than fuel engine units. And even if big name car manufacturers like Mitsubishi are now putting their name to some of the electro projects, this still remains pioneering work: little more than glorified tinkering.
Of course, there won't be a whisper of this when it comes to the overall victory. Not when the challenger is celebrated French rally driver Sebastien Loeb. The main topic of conversation here on the mountain is not whether Loeb can crack the record in his specially developed Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak, but by how much. In training, his car - 875hp strong, 875kg light- burned a few seconds per kilometre from the competition, including the two current record-holders Millen and Dumas. America loves winners and there are huge expectations of Loeb. The 39-year-old is feeling the pressure.
A break between two training runs, and the nine-time rally world champion has retreated to his trailer. His blue eyes blaze, thrown into even sharper relief by stubble now turned pepper-and-salt. He sprawls on a bench, relaxed. Although of slender build, his powerful upper arms are testament to the work he has already done, taming both mountain and car.
"First I had to establish trust in the Peugeot," he says. "I had to find out how nervous the car was and what I could do with it. During a test in France we sorted out the major problems - transmission too long; suspension too hard; steering too direct - and on the first run in America the car did everything I wanted it to. I don't know what the old rally cars felt like on Pikes Peak, but this one's insanely fast."
Nevertheless, can he really go at 100 percent speed here - on these miserly roads clinging desperately to the flanks of the infamous mountain?
Loeb hesitates: "Let's say 99 per cent."
There's another major drawback: unlike the World Rally Championship (WRC) there is no co-driver to dictate the curves to him during the journey. How well does he know the route?


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Liverpool's defense nearly squandered a strong attacking performance by giving up a penalty late to Stoke but debutante Simon Mignolet came to the rescue.
Didier Drogba has been ruled out of Chelsea's match against Sporting Lisbon with an ankle injury.
Striker Stevan Jovetic is back in contention for Manchester City after recovering from the thigh injury which he picked up during training while on international duty with Montenegro at the beginning of September.
Christian BENteke took a big step towards a return to first team action after the striker played for over an hour on Monday for the Aston Villa development side marking his first appearance since March with a goal from the penalty spot.
Mixed injury news for Arsenal ahead of their UEFA Champions League home tie against Galatasaray on Wednesday as Jack Wilshere could be available but Aaron Ramsey and Mikel Arteta are ruled out.
West Bromwich Albion are making their move in the table after their second consecutive win comes easy for them, a 4-0 win over Burnley, with Saido Berahino scoring his second brace of the season.
The Arsenal midfield was plunged into crisis on Saturday after Mikel Arteta, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere all suffered injuries during the North London derby at the Emirates.
A thunderbolt deep into stoppage time from Everton defender Phil Jagielka was enough to share the spoils at Anfield but post-match celebrations were muted by the news that Kevin Mirallas is facing an extended period out due to a thigh injury.
Arsenal were on the front foot for most of the match but needed an Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain equalizer to rescue a point from Spurs in the North London Derby.
Younes Kaboul was everywhere clearing balls, intercepting passes and providing a physical presence as Spurs managed a draw despite enjoying very little possession at the Emirates.
Everton looked to be on the losing end of the derby with their fierce rivals, Liverpool, but a late strike by club captain Phil Jagielka in stoppage time rescues a point for the Toffees in a 1-1 draw.
Steven Gerrard scored a classic free kick in the 65th minute to give Liverpool the advantage over Everton in the Merseyside Derby, but the Toffees would equalize in the final minutes to leave things at a 1-1 draw.


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This weekend, when the Bard Center for Curatorial Studies's Hessel Museum, in Annandale-on-Hudson, N.Y., opens "Matters of Fact," a new exhibition of works from its collection, it will also unveil a new name for one of its existing galleries: that of the photographer Robert Mapplethorpe.
One of the Hessel Museum's three main exhibition spaces is being renamed the Robert Mapplethorpe Gallery in recognition of an unrestricted $500,000 grant from the Robert Mapplethorpe Foundation, the nonprofit organization founded in 1988 as the controversial photographer was dying of HIV/AIDS to support his legacy, photography in general and support research into HIV/AIDS. The gift is part of Bard CCS's 20th anniversary fundraising campaign. Read More


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SAN DIEGO (CBS 8) - Hundreds of students and faculty gathered at the Chabad Hebrew Academy in Scripps Ranch Wednesday for a special Hanukkah holiday celebration.
Newly-elected Bob Filner stopped by to help light the school's giant 40 foot menorah. In order to light it, they had to get onto a lift.
Attendees were also treated to a special holiday concert put on by students during the fifth night of Hanukkah.


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Staff were excellent. Location pretty close to everything.
Carpets could do with a good clean
The breakfast was the same ever day they need to change it the shower was either cold or very hot. The sink didn't work well and the staff was very rude . they didn't come clean the room..I would not stay there again
Staff were good, plenty of clean sheets and towels, excellent restaurant, food good. Breakfast free and good. Room clean apart from carpets. Good basic hotel
No bible, carpets needed cleaning in the room and corriders. Small pool for size of hotel.
the wi fi was perfect
poor breakfast not clean carpet noise outside
Loved the ice machine Staff were very accommodating when I was locked out my room (allowed me to snooze in the lobby)
Water jar always empty in the lobby My friend was able to bolt lock me out of our room Pillows could have been better
Quiet location. Quick, early check in. Nice pool. Ample parking. Nice food at associated casino. Good vfm
A little smelly
We got a smoking room, even though we explicitly requested a non-smoking. The room SO stinky!!! The girl at the reception said it was a "preference" and not a "requirement" and as far as the hotel was concerned they provided the room and the rest was our problem. Eventually, they gave us a non-smoking room for additional money, which was bigger and had more beds then we needed. The water in the sink did not go through.
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rooms smelled bad need to be upgraded
Of course the price :) Complete value for money. Moreover, it is approx. a mile from the strip which takes about 10 mins walk and is very convenient. Very ideal for solo travelers like me when the classiness of the hotel is not so important. This hotel is basic but comfortable.
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My mom and I shared a king size bed and I didn't even notice that she was there. Was an easy walk to the strip and there is a 711 right next door so you can grab a bottle of water to stay hydrated. Will definitely be staying there again when I return.
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Cont. breakfast too far for the disabled. By the lobby would have been so much better - and there was room in the lobby as well
location on walking distance from Strip Area! Room was very good. Breakfast very good. Parking
Personnel was friendly but did not look not too much interested in the guests.
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The Ellis Island side driveway can be a very noisy. I try to avoid a room on that side of that wing, but I could not be accommodated for my seven nights this trip. Tuesday to Tuesday. Once settled, I hate moving.
Cheap price for a weekend
Access to exit on upper floors, housekeeping knocking on doors too early & several housekeeping carts blocking the hallway.
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Close to the airport, with complimentary breakfast. Nice service at the desk. Good restaurant on site.
The place is rundown, with paint coming off outside & lots of defects just painted over-needs total refurbishment. Bathroom very poor condition.
We stayed at the Paris hotel for 2 nights before moving to this hotel after a night in the Canyon. This place has free hot drinks in the lobby and coffee in the bedroom and free Wi-Fi which was good enough for a Skype video call and it has a complimentary breakfast included. There is a small pool outside which is good enough for cooling off between bouts of such bathing. The brown bread at breakfast was the softest I have known in the US. There is no resort fee at this place.
It is not on the strip however only 5-10 minutes walk to the very centre of the action. Budget hotels do not get any closer.The breakfast was very basic but at least had fruit, cereal, toast, waffles and porridge.
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I only had to take 1 dose of 60 MG at evening meal and in the middle of the night I awakened to go to the bathroom but not without knocking over a bookcase, falling into the corner of a wall (knot on my head and multiple bruised ribs, huge brusies on my back, bottom and legs). Crawled (somehow--don't remember) to bathroom and crawled back to bed--don't remember how. At 11am the next mor ... Show Full Comment
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I am Bi-Polar, and am more prone to the depressive side of the infliction as to the manic side. Ziprasidone has made a HUGE difference in my being medicated. I don't have as many manic episodes as before this medication (racing thoughts, and the other popular side effects of being manic), and I can take it with/without food and it works the same. I wholeheartedly recommend this med. BTW, I ... Show Full Comment
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Having a serious bout of Akathisia with this. Very restless, agitated, super hypoanxious/hypomanic. Psych is working on dosage adjustment. Started soon after psych raised dosage from Geo 60mg night only to 40mg A.M. and 60mg P.M. Currently on 60mg A.M. & 60mg P.M. She is taking me down to the 40 A.M., but I think I am going to suggest a goal of 20mg A.M. I HATE the akathisia feeling. It makes ... Show Full Comment
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