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Dr. Stephen Stanford
Interviewed By Steven F. Crane
11 March 2013
Oral History Program
Weber State University
Stewart Library
Ogden, Utah
Dr. Stephen Stanford
Interviewed by
Steven F. Crane
11 March 2013
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Dr. Stephen Stanford
ca. 1964
Dr. Stephen Stanford
April 19, 2013
Abstract: Stephen Stanford participated in an oral history interview with Steve Crane
of the Ogden Rotary Club on March 11, 2013 to talk about his experiences in the
Army Air Force as a C-46 aircraft pilot. Stephen enlisted in the Air Force in July
of 1941 and served in World War II where he was responsible for flying gasoline
and ammunition to the front lines until his separation in 1946. He then went on to
become a professor at Weber State University and retired in 1986.
SC: This is the second session of the 2013 Ogden Rotary Club and Weber State
University Veteran's Project held March 11, 2013 at the George E. Whalen
Ogden Veteran's Home. My name is Steve Crane, a member of the Ogden
Rotary Club, I will be conducting this interview. Also present are Stacie Gallagher
from Weber State University, Robert Harris of the Ogden Rotary Club and my
wife, Donna Crane. Our guest at this session is Stephen Stanford. This session
is going to be about Mr. Stanford's military service. What is your date of birth?
SS: The 16th of May 1920.
SC: What branch of the military did you serve in?
SS: The Air Force.
SC: What years did you serve in the Air Force?
SS: I went in July 1941, just before Pearl Harbor, and I came out on the 29th of
December 1946 after Hiroshima.
SC: What rank were you when you left the service?
SS: I was a 2nd Lieutenant.
SC: What was your job in the Air Force?
SS: My purpose was to fly the C-46, which is a very big airplane. We would haul
trucks in the back of our plane. Our main job was to haul in the Pacific Theater
and we would go from the Philippines to the front lines of combat to deliver
gasoline and ammo. Then, we'd go back and pick up the wounded just off the
front lines and fly them back to the hospitals.
SC: How did you come to be in the Air Force?
SS: I got my private pilot's license in 1940 and decided to enlist. I enlisted on July
16th, 1941. It was a voluntary enlistment.
SC: Where were you trained?
SS: I got my private pilot's license in Logan, Utah. I went into the Army Air Force in
1941 and when I got into the Army Air Force, they were calling for volunteers to
train as glider pilots. I entered that program and got my silver wings as a glider
SC: Did you ever fly gliders?
SS: Yes, you bet.
SC: Where did you fly gliders?
SS: Just in training in Dalhart, Texas.
SC: What aircraft did you say you flew?
SS: The C-46, it's called the Curtiss Commando. It was a very big beautiful airplane.
It would carry not only a truck, but it would haul 52 infantrymen with all their
equipment. So, it was pretty big.
SC: Where were you trained to fly that aircraft? Did you have to go somewhere to
learn how to fly that aircraft or were you already trained?
SS: We were already trained.
SC: Where did you serve? What campaigns were you involved in as you flew?
SS: I was sent to New Guinea, the Dutch East Indies just two miles off the equator.
We set up a base on Biak Island. I went to Leyte Island in the Philippines which
was where I was for three years. In fact, I was there when they dropped the atom
bomb in the war. I was in the Philippines. I was stationed for a long time in
SC: What were your feelings when the atom bomb was dropped?
SS: Some things you can explain. You feel awe. A-W-E—awe.
SC: You said you were in the Philippines when the atom bomb was dropped.
SS: I was actually on the island of Okinawa.
SC: What were your feelings about the dropping of that bomb?
SS: I was glad that it was over.
SC: Did you feel like that was going to bring Japan to peace?
SS: My squadron went right on to the island of Japan as part of the Army of
Occupation to take over the island. I lived in Japan for three months as part of
that occupation group.
SC: Were you concerned about the problems of trying to invade Japan? Were you
going to have to fly if the invasion of Japan had to happen? Were you worried
about the death toll that would result?
SS: No. We accepted it as reality and that was it.
SC: You said you were flying soldiers to various locations. Did you see combat
SS: That's a very interesting question because on several occasions, I just missed
some major battles by sometimes 20 or 30 minutes. The battle of Leyte Gulf was
regarded as the most significant naval battle of the entire world and I was there.
We were coming in with a load of gasoline and we saw all this activity on the gulf,
so they said, "You can't land because the airstrip is being used for the fighters."
So, here's Leyte Gulf and we went round and round and literally had a ringside
seat of the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
SC: That was the Japanese Navy with the U.S. Navy?
SS: Yes. That was regarded as the outstanding, most severe battle of World War II in
terms of loss of both Japanese and American shipmen.
SC: Was it a turning point in the war?
SS: Oh, very much. Very much.
SC: Until then, the Japanese had been the aggressors and from then on they were on
defensive. Is that true?
SS: Right. The loss of Japanese vessels and battleship aircraft carriers in the area
and that was a focal point for the climax of the war. It wasn't too long after that
they dropped the atom bomb.
SC: You were flying around watching that battle from above? What did you see?
What were your experiences there?
SS: The Japanese had some giant guns. The guns shells were probably 16 inches in
diameter. We sunk two of their carriers, three of their battleships, and many
destroyers. I think historians agree that it was the turning point of the war with the
SC: Did you actually see aircraft carriers sinking?
SS: No. It was really quite cloudy. We would fly through the midst of the fighting. We
could see all the ships, but I didn't see them sink.
SC: What other major experiences did you have during your time in the Air Force that
you could share with us?
SS: The most important thing we hauled in our planes was gasoline to refuel the
fighters. We would pick up 50 of those big oil drums and fly them up to the front
lines of combat where there were fighter planes had an airstrip and they'd empty
them out. That was the point at which we would go back and get more ammo. It
was very rare to haul personnel. It was mostly ammunition and fuel.
SC: Were you ever shot at?
SS: Oh yes. What was interesting is we expected to be shot down anytime because
there were Zeros flying in the area too. We'd come back and find bullet holes in
our plane. We were pretty close, probably within a half mile.
SC: As you're flying with all of this gasoline, did you worry about getting hit? You
were basically in a flying bomb, weren't you? If you had gotten hit, you had all
that gasoline on board.
SS: Pilots don't worry. We do what we do and it's like you're part of the machine
itself. It's very automatic. I can't remember spending five minutes worrying about
what was going to happen or whether I was going to come out alive or not. It just
never crossed my mind. We just did what we had to do. When you're flying a
plane, especially in cloudy conditions, you take things as they come and be glad
you're still alive. I have to tell you about one episode that was very interesting.
We took off at midnight for a base down in the East Indies. We took off at
midnight hauling gasoline and planned to land at the break of dawn to deliver our
gasoline. Here we were, hauling these 50 gallon drums and as we came in we
saw all the planes on the strip were burning. They just finished strafing and were
raiding that particular airstrip. We were about 20 seconds, maybe a minute and a
half away and we could still see off in the distance the Zeros just raided the field
and they were just leaving. They didn't see us, or they would have come back
and got us too. They had just strafed and bombed the airstrip. I think everything
on the ground was on fire. We landed about 20 seconds after the last one.
SC: They just didn't see you or else they would have come back?
SS: They didn't see us and didn't come back. I think that was our closest call.
SC: Any other experiences like that you can share with us?
SS: On one trip, we came in to land and a plane was taking off in front of us and
while it turned it stirred up a cloud of dust, so we lost sight and our plane was out
of control. We approached the ship and crashed into two parked C-46's off the
side of the strip because we couldn't see.
SC: Were you loaded with gasoline at that time?
SS: I don't think so. I believe we happened to be empty on that trip. That was a close
call. We discovered later on that the plane that was taking off on the strip was
loaded with ammo.
SC: So they were a flying bomb.
SS: If that cloud of dust hadn't kept us from landing, we would probably have run
head-on into the other bomber loaded with ammo.
SC: Your life was saved by a cloud of dust.
SS: Yes.
SC: Were you ever wounded yourself?
SS: No.
SC: Do you have any other experiences? These are marvelous experiences you're
sharing with us. Can you think of any other close calls or experiences that you
can share with us?
SS: I guess it was mostly just a routine delivering and hauling back and forth.
SC: Did you feel like your planes were reliable? Did you feel confident in the aircraft
you were flying?
SS: There was never any question about that. The C-46's are very remarkable and a
very beautiful airplane and very big. Can you imagine putting a truck in the back
of an airplane? A full size army truck would just fit into a C-46.
SC: How many props did it have?
SS: It had two engines, four props, and 2000 horsepower, a really powerful engine.
SC: They would drive a truck into the belly of your airplane and you would deliver it
SS: Oh yes. We put up a ramp on the side of the plane and opened the doors and
made sure the truck was anchored.
SC: Did you have some really close friends that you made during your time in the air
SS: That's kind of hard to answer because, like I said before, you felt like you were
part of a big machine or an operation that was very impersonal. I don't remember
any personal friendships except the people with whom we flew in the routine over
and over again.
SC: Were you the pilot?
SS: We took turns and would switch between pilot and co-pilot. If the pilot flew in,
then I would fly back. Actually, the other pilot would be the captain in charge, but
we both had the opportunity to fly.
SC: How many crewmembers were in this aircraft?
SS: The pilot, co-pilot, navigator, crew chief, and sometimes a second crew chief.
SC: So, four of five would be the crew. Were they from all over the country?
SS: Yes.
SC: Did you have the same crew flight after flight?
SS: We were pretty well assigned to one particular plane. There were others in our
squadron, but basically we were a number of little units that were pretty well
coherent within themselves.
SC: Do you feel like your experience in the Air Force changed your life? Was it a
turning point in your life?
SS: After the war was over and the dropping of the bomb, shortly after we were sent
to japan to occupy it, I was released and came home. Being a Mormon, I left the
Air Force so I could go on a mission with the LDS church. That's why I left my
squadron, so I could serve the mission.
SC: Where did you serve your mission?
SS: In Canada.
SC: You came back and where did you attend University?
SS: I came back and enrolled at BYU and met my wife in 1965.
SC: Has your wife passed away?
SS: Yes. Last week. Just a few days ago.
SC: I'm so sorry to hear that. Do you have children?
SS: Eight children, seven boys and one girl.
SC: That's a great family. Do they live nearby?
SS: They're in and out all the time. They're really close.
SC: Where else did you attend school?
SS: I went to BYU and graduated with a bachelor's degree and stayed for another
year and got my master's degree. I went to the University of Colorado and got my
doctoral degree.
SC: Did you come back and teach at Weber your entire career?
SS: Most of the time. I took some sabbatical leaves in Tennessee and Wisconsin.
Most of the time was at Weber. Twenty-two years at Weber.
SC: When did you retire from Weber State?
SS: In 1986.
SC: Mr. Harris is wondering what your experience was like during the time you were
in Japan in the occupation forces.
SS: Before I went into the Army, I had majored in college in landscape architecture.
When we took over the country, our squadron was assigned to a place called
Fussa, Japan. Because of my training in landscape architecture and because I
had a lot of flying I requested a chance to help beautify the airbase. They put me
in charge of the landscaping crew and gave me a whole bunch of Japanese
workers to work on the environment and clean up the trees and shrubbery. I did
that for almost three months. I was at the top of the list for those that had enough
points to go home, so I was the second one in my squadron to be sent back to
the states.
SC: During that period of time you were in charge of beautifying the Japanese
SS: Yes.
SC: How were you treated by the Japanese?
SS: It was like little puppets. I couldn't feel any personality at all. It was very
automatic. They were just doing what they were doing. I can't remember ever
developing a personal feeling toward them. Of course, I had an interpreter all the
SC: But you were treated with respect, of course, you were their boss.
SS: That doesn't seem to be the word. It's kind of like a feeling of automation or
something. It was like we were puppets. It was very impersonal.
SC: They were just doing what they were told. There weren't any interactions with
them much.
SS: After they gave you a work crew of about 10 Japanese, I would tell the
interpreter, "I want that done and this done." He'd go talk to the Japanese and
he'd spend almost a full minute talking to them. I don't know if they understood.
I'd say five and you'd see 20 or 30 back and forth, but we got along fine.
SC: Is there anything else about your military service that you think we ought to know
about? Any other experiences you would like to share with us?
SS: I think those are the basic points. The two really close calls that I mentioned
were probably outstanding.
SC: On behalf of all of us, I want to thank you and all who served with you for what
you did during that time. You've been called the greatest generation and I think
that certainly is an appropriate title for you. We really do appreciate it. I also
appreciate you sharing your time and experiences with us. It has meant a lot to
SS: I thank you for the opportunity. I've enjoyed every minute of it.
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Professional No-Limit Hold'em: Volume I - Ed Miller - (Intermediate)
Phil Gordon's Little Green Book - Phil Gordon - (Beginner)
Harrington on Hold'em Vol. 1 - Dan Harrington - (Beginner/Intermediate)
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Kill Everyone - Lee Nelson - (Intermediate)
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|Reggie's girlfriend Patience Huthwaite Jnr. was pregnant with our father (also Reginald) when he was posted with the Norfolk Regiment to Iraq to participate in the first battle of Kut, where he eventually went missing, presumed killed, on 22nd April 1916.
Reggie and Patience were not married and our father was eventually brought up in London for the first 14 years of his life by his maternal grandmother, Patience Huthwaite Snr. He was christened with his mother's surname of Huthwaite, although he was a Bryant.
Reggie Bryant came from a large family living in Diss, Norfolk.
He became a corporal in the Norfolk Regiment, but appears to have been trained at Colchester Barracks before being posted to Iraq.
His letters indicate a typical soldier's acceptance of his lot in life, and his enjoyment of a few 'jars of beer' with his mates. He even requests his girlfriend, Patience Huthwaite, in one letter, to meet him outside the barracks with a 'treacle tin of beer' as he was missing his pint.
The letters from Iraq to his mother are very poignant. They describe sitting by the Tigris looking across at the mountains in the distance. His last letter to his mother was written only two days before he went into action against the Turks at Kut, and was reported missing, presumed killed.
Patience Huthwaite eventually married Reggie's brother Clarence Bryant after the war, and therefore kept the name of Bryant going.
Editor's Comment:
Photograph at top left is of Reggie Bryant when a private, in Service Dress, with the cap badge of the Norfolk Regiment.
The group photographs, top right and bottom left, show Reggie as a private wearing the unusual Blue Simplified Jacket (not to be confused with the infamous 'Kitchener Blue' uniform, worn by the man standing next to Reggie, bottom right, with cloth shoulder titles denoting his particular Battalion), an early war emergency issue.
Cpl. 14668 Reginald Bryant, 2nd Bn. Norfolk Regiment, missing in action 22nd April 1916, is commemorated on the Basra Memorial. Son of May Bryant, of 6, Waveney Rd., Diss, Norfolk, and the late John Bryant. One of six brothers who served. The 2nd Bn. served in Mesopotamia as part of the 6th (Poona) Division, Indian Army.
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|Richard Marshall (Norwich and Norfolk Millennium Library Submission Day 8th April 2008)
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We all know bars and restaurants are supposed to be checking identification cards, but we also know not all do. So there are police officers and teenagers out there doing undercover work to keep them on their toes.
The Arizona Department of Liquor has a CUB program, in which CUB stands for covert underage buyer. The Arizona Department of Liquor sends in a teenager with their real IDs to try and buy alcohol. If they're successful, the cops are there to bust the sellers.
"You never know what we're going to run into in the night," said Sgt. Wes Kuhl with the Arizona Department of Liquor. They go on CUB stings a few times a month. This time, they let us tag along.
"We get some sort of complaint that a location is selling to an underage," Kuhl said. "We can only check those places per state statute."
After they get the complaint, the undercover officers check it out, usually by sending in the CUB.
"Not every high schooler gets the opportunity to go and do undercover work," said one of the CUBs, Zack, who will soon retire because a CUB cannot be older than 19. Zack said he usually gets a buy 50 percent of the time.
"I've had friends who've gotten hurt from drinking alcohol and from other teenagers drinking alcohol in car accidents and whatnot," Zack said.
"In 2012 we had a buy rate of about 38 percent, so approximately four out of 10 places have sold alcohol to our underage buyers," Kuhl said. He said that number seems a little high, considering all restaurant, bar, and liquor store owners learn about this program when they get their license.
"It's no surprise, we're not trying to deceive anybody, we're just checking compliance," Kuhl said.
On this sting, we went to nine different places that sell alcohol. First, one of the liquor department's undercover cops walks in. Then, the CUB follows a few minutes later.
At our first few locations, the bars and restaurants turned the CUB away like they're supposed to, like Poppy's Place in Tempe.
"I asked for his ID immediately because he looked really young," said Nicole Vidana, a waitress who refused to serve Zack.
If the place is compliant, they'll get a letter from the liquor department saying they passed the test. But not everyone gets that pat on the back. At Valley Fair Liquor Store in Tempe, we followed close behind and saw the clerk sell a beer to the underage buyer.
The clerk that sells the alcohol gets arrested for selling to a minor, which usually leads to a fine. The establishment also gets cited, which can range from a fine to revocation of their liquor license.
On our sting, only one other location sold to the CUB - Dave's Place in Phoenix.
And while there's surely other places the undercover officers would rather be on their Saturday night, they know the CUB program is vital to keeping the peace.
"Our job is to protect the public and protect the safety of the underage people and also people on the streets of Arizona," Kuhl said.
We reached out to the managers of both locations that failed the CUB challenge, but we have yet to hear back. In the 10 years the CUB program has been in place, they've visited nearly 3,000 bars, restaurants, and liquor stores and about a third of them failed the test.
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DC/Williamsburg is high up on our list of places to visit.
Funny enough I don't really like crowds either...but willing to deal on vacation. Daily living though, I much prefer burbs to city life.
DC/Williamsburg is high up on our list of places to visit.
Funny enough I don't really like crowds either...but willing to deal on vacation. Daily living though, I much prefer burbs to city life.
I honestly didn't enjoy Disney much either. It was pretty boring IMO. Ky even thought it was pretty boring and he was the one who wanted to go. Luckily I thought of going to Universal Studios too and he REALLY liked Universal and if I get the itch for an amusement park that is not Cedar Point in Ohio, then I may consider driving the 5-6 hours to Orlando and going to Universal again. Even Elle liked it. But I highly doubt I will want to go to any amusement park other than Cedar Point. I hope to go in 2014 as Ky has never been.
Suja if you do go to Disney just do like we did and go during late winter or in Sept/Oct as those are "low" periods and hardly anyone is there so at least you won't have huge crowds around you trying to gawk at cartoon characters lol!
And Bridget I think the beating me down comment is pretty funny too. I am going to use in on DH! I am also an exaggerator at times and it is one of DHs pet peeves. Plus my DH is crazy aggressive in heated discussions, like if I were a random woman who doesn't know him and didn't grow up with a lot of aggressive boys/men, then I would be afraid of him and he could be seen as some sort of abuser. He will go on and on during conversations and I do liken these exchanges to "beat downs" but I call them "verbal tongue lashings." And so I can use another phrase to describe his overt oral aggression during heated discussions. He is also overly physically expressive in anger, his eyebrows move a lot, even the one up/one down, which I also think is pretty sexy lol!
DH hates a joke me and my dad have where I will tell my dad some idiotic thing that someone said to me and DH and dad will ask "did he make that face?!?" Because DH has an angry/surprised face that basically exudes the feeling "you are a f*cking idiot" and it is pretty hilarious and will stop people in their tracks. Everyone in my family noticed "that face" when they first met him because he likes to start arguments about various controversial topics that most people don't care about in day to day life, mostly politics but sometimes religion, his main topics though are racial things - something I attribute to his being a native of Chicago, he doesn't say racist things against others but just can see racism in any media commercial or television show or radio program, his favorites to racially critique are commercials. You'd be amazed at what racially sensitive people like my DH find offensive on commercials, and after his explanations, you too would see the racism lol! And to make it clear it is not just racism perpetuated against black people that he sees, it is all sorts of racism - we have discussions about how people like him are the reason why "racist" and "racism" are losing their strength since he calls any and every form of discrimination, including gender discrimination at times - racist. If you don't agree with him regarding the racism shown in various commercials - especially commercials with black people dancing to hip hop music, like in many McDonald's commercials (he also doesn't like those commercials because he doesn't think too many black people who eat McDonald's all the time would be fit enough to dance lol!) then he will think that you feel that all black people do is eat McDonald's and dance! He also doesn't like those taco shell (I think Ortega) commercials with the hispanic people on them because he feels they characterize all hispanic people as eating tacos all the time and the fact that they speak Spanish in the commercial reinforces the stereotype that all hispanic Americans are illegal, non-English speaking "others" not assimilating in American society. He sees many forms of gender discrimination, especially against men (insert eyeroll) but I do kind of get his point in that many commercials men are portrayed as bumbling bufoons and after we talked about it, I now notice this in commercials as well so he has rubbed off on me in a way.
Speaking of exaggeration, I do it a lot, but I try to make it clear that I'm doing so. So, for example, If there were 10-15 wasps all swarming around and it upset me, I wouldn't say there were hundreds, I would say there were a bazillion.
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Erin, you think it's a Chicago thing? My MIL noticed that moving to Chicago from Milwaukee. She worked in health care related offices that were diverse in both places....except in Chicago she said everything was about race to some of the women.
I have never been to Cedar Point either but used to go often to Six Flags in IL. The thing I like much better about the disney parks is the detail on the rides...the decor, the robotics, the educational aspect of some of them....it's just so much more an experience. The older I get, the less I care about the mega coasters. And I strongly dislike waiting 2 hours for a ride...common at six flags....but disney kept us moving and even the lines were often interesting. Maybe next time we go down, we can hit up universal....just didn't have time for it last time.
Haha, I tend to use bazillion a lot and DH is like, really? LOL He's a lot more literal than I am.
Oh, and Erin, as you know we went to Cedar Point (what, 2 years ago now?) and I LOVED it! I'd definitely go again. If you want, I'd be willing to tentatively plan a trip there at the same time you're going to be there so we could meet up.
And Jen if you like movies and shows/plays, you'd love Universal. They had a lot of parades when we were there as it was Mardi Gras season. They also had a Barney show that Elle liked. They have a Dr. Suess area for little kids at Islands of Adventures where the little kids can ride on cute Suess-themed rides. That was my favorite part and Elle still says "Mommy, remember when we rode on that ride through The Cat in the Hat" and will procede to tell me everything about that trip. She talks about it more than Disney. They also have some great design and the Harry Potter portion was unbelievable in how it reminds you of the book - really cool area there and if anyone is a Harry Potter fan they should check it out. Ride lines weren't that long either. Ky and B, DH's little cousin who's 12, got on every ride 10 times because wait times were 5 minutes or less. Waits were longer at Disney than Universal. The longest we waited was 10 minutes for a ride based on The Sneetches, an easy roller coaster which was also one of Elle's favorites.
Cedar Point is a pretty huge park too and it has some of the best coaster in the world, but they also have a lot of shows. I don't think it is as artistic as either Disney or Universal but it is a ton of fun and is chock full of activities. It is also on the beach at Lake Erie and they have a water park and many resorts near it so it can be just as fun and exciting as Disney or Universal IMO. I like coasters and no place has coasters like Cedar Point. I went to Six Flags here in Atlanta when I first moved here and never went back because they were crap compared to Cedar Point even though they are nearly the same cost.
Chrissy, I hope you got some sleep eventually. I have used Melatonin or GABA to help me sleep at times. I could send you some GABA to try out if you're interested. The melatonin is liquid, so I don't think that would ship very well. Just let me know.
My DH is a mac daddy exaggerator. If he catches a fish, it gets bigger and bigger every time he tells the story. I, personally, have a tough time with him taking liberties with the truth because I worship at the altar of specifics (a reflex from my job), plus I take things so literally. But I've come to accept hyperbole as a lovable part of his personality. The only time his exaggeration REALLY bothers me is when we're arguing, and his version of events include distortions of the way things really happened to support his point of view. It's really maddening, and I've told him that it erodes my trust in him when he can't stick to the facts. Call it an "open issue" in our marriage, and we're working on it. Or at least I'm working on it. LOL.
ETA: I had to edit the paragraph that was here earlier. Erin, on the topic of your hubby's hyper-awareness of racism, I'd posted the article about the racist tweet from the Greek athlete. I'd earlier said I could see both sides, but after reading this latest translation of her tweet (earlier translations I'd read did not include the phrase "at least"), I feel like it was undoubtedly racist now. I guess I didn't fully get the context of the tweet. For some reason, I thought she'd been talking about African atheletes visiting London for the Olympics and thought it was just a stupid joke, not about the existing African population in Greece. Moreover, it appears racist given her history of sympathizing with what was described as the extreme right-wing party in Greece, which I also didn't know about.
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Yeah, Mylah the exaggerations become a huge issue in our relationship to because he will say things like, "You ALWAYS beat me down. You NEVER let me discipline the children" and other such broad statements that lose all crediblity with me when the reality is that I say something to him about once a week for something he is totally out of line for in regards to the children and yeah, we all now know his idea of a "beat down". I also take issue with him telling the kids they NEVER clean up their toys or they ALWAYS back talk when the reality is they usually are awesome and he is just upset at one particular moment that they are being difficult. And to a child, that is straight up line as they don't have the blurry lines between truth and fiction the way adults do.
I will be totally happy if I never go Disney world or the like. Rather be at the ocean and so far kids seem to feel the same. None of us like crowds or loud atmospheres. We have actually left a few library activities before they even started because it starts to get too crowded and both Savana and Kai will say they just want to check out books and leave. I am more than happy to oblige!
It drives me insane the way the media portrays men as idiots on almost every sitcom. They also portray the wife as a total biatch. I used to like that show Kind of Queens
and that show along with Everybody loves Raymond are the worst for that. Some children's books do the same. Berenstain Bears, for one.
Erin that does sound fun! I would love to be able to take two weeks in FL next time and get to see and do much more.
Bridget, when we did drive to disney, we meant to go to the ocean as DH has never seen one before but ended up running out of time....and on the way home we were going to detour a bit but the hwy was closed we needed to take due to grass fires so we just drove home. Wish we had gotten around to doing it but next time. DH did want to see the ocean and check it out but other than that, we aren't really sit on a beach soaking up sun people.
I have to admit that I love Berenstain Bears. I was going to be a children's librarian until my prof for that class gave me a bad grade on a paper.....a paper about our favorite childhood book and mine was a Berenstain Bears. My paper was well written but the bad grade was for loving a "bad" book. No way could I have taken more classes with her.
I don't really watch any sitcoms...haven't in a while other than like Showtime. Mostly I like hour dramas. or sitcoms from the 80's/90's.
I didn't mean to ignore the PP about taking an RX (sorry, I forget who posted it. Work is a mess, as always). I'm terrified I'll be one of those people that sleep/drives or does something equally crazy. As it is, when I'm under tremendous stress I have a tendency to sleep walk. I do not dare take a drug that has that as a possible side effect. I have no clue if the two are even remotely related (have a natural inclination to sleep walk, and the actual experience of it while on those medications), but I don't want to risk it.
chrissy I feel the same way about those drugs. I will try some nyquil or benedryl but nothing stronger. I have been known to sleep walk....within the past two years I have woken up in the wrong room twice...and once I took a sort of semi shower in my sleep (woke up naked with a towel and sort of wet). OMG, no way would I take ambien. Plus the reports of sleep eating...I am trying to lose weight as it is.
Erin, that Ortega taco commercial is just ridiculous! I remember the first time I saw it thinking, "Is this what these people think Hispanics are like?" And to make my own sweeping ethnic generalization, most people I know who are enough in touch with their Hispanic roots to speak Spanish in their homes don't buy those nasty pre-made taco shells, anyway. I'm not the type of person who goes looking for racism everywhere, but that one hit me upside the head.
Interesting about the Chicago/racism connection. I don't know (or know well, at least) very many people from Chicago but the one I know the best is one of the whitest people I know and in my experience I've never heard her discuss race. I do know she is fairly fluent in Spanish as a second language and has done internships in Mexico working with disadvantaged kids, so it just doesn't fit the picture in my head for her to be racist. But I wonder if, it being such a segregated city as you say, that maybe it's a black/white thing? I can imagine that in her case her upbringing was probably fairly privileged so she just didn't think much about race, but that probably isn't the same from someone on the other end of things.
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I have started potty-training S. for real, now that I don't have any upcoming travel to deal with. He has been going when I ask him to for a long time, but he doesn't go when he needs to. So now I'm doing the extensive every 10 minute sit on the potty, cloth training pants, remove all the rugs from the floor, lots of laundry thing. He pees every 10 minutes when I put him on the potty. If I wait more than 10 or 15 minutes, he pees in his pants. This part of the process, and the next few months (heck, the next six months) of potty emergency-gotta-go-right-NOW! are going to be such a pain in the behind.
DH is out of town on business. I'm staying up late as per usual. I'm still not caught up on all the stuff I have been meaning to catch up on, but I did balance my checkbook and pay some bills already.
SCUBJIA to say that this room is the exception to everything I posted in the "is it coming to an end" thread in Random.
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Here I am dancing and playing pool. I'm so beautiful. So are my friends. We are beautiful and happy and dancing because we are eating.....McDonald's.
You too can be beautiful and a great dancer but only if you eat McDonalds....Ohhhh it is sooooo good, look at me eat this sandwich.
Go to McDonald's. Be a beautiful, cool, hip-hop dancer...just like me.
Ky cracks up laughing and any other of his friends/cousins when they are over and I do this. I do it with car commercials too. There was one that played during the Olympic ceremonies that featured a black guy with a split screen and some hip-hop music playing, on one side he was in the office and the other he was in the club and I basically stated all the above like McDonald's but also said "see, you need to get (insert car) so you can be a professional, proficient worker AND cool and get all the ladies at the club like me. Get a (insert car) oh yeah (in my Barry White voice)." B, our little cousin was cracking up and was like "Hey, that is kind of what they're saying." I have always done this because I think most commercials are pretty stupid and I like to point out how they are trying to encourage people to buy things making them think they will be a certain way, only if they buy that particular object in the advertisement. Due to my silliness surrounding commercials, Ky now is always telling me about how ridiculous a show or advertisement is and how they are trying to sell him something he doesn't need. I've always loved commercials though, but I just want to act silly when they're on, not get into deep political discussions about racial politics or gender politics (DH and I have good discussions though about gender politics especially because since he points out so many male discrimination features of various TV programs, I now do the same for him. Yesterday we were discussing how the men's gymnastics guys, most of them wear pants, yet female gymnastics athletes don't, and how that can be seen as sexualizing teenage girls and food for pedophiles).
LOL Dana.
Seems like here is one of the more active places where conversation happens. I have seen a lot of slow down too....and really a lot of rooms are boring. And nobody seems to want to start much in terms of new and interesting threads. The lid is kept tight on drama...which is nice that nobody gets feelings hurt BUT it is a lot less interesting.
Yeah my MIL has been living in Chicago area for almost 10 years and found that race was a huge deal there. That nobody could criticize (and these were always ladies in her office) the black women at all. For any reason or it would become all about race. Not that they were coming in an hour late or taking an extra 45 min or more at lunch....it was always racial even if others got talked to about the same exact things. And this was two different places she has worked down there. Very different from the women she worked with in Milwaukee.
L, maybe S will surprise you and potty train quickly? He sounds fairly advanced and has the twins as a big kid example.
On my happy note of the day...yesterday was weigh-in at work (after the class ended a small group of us is continuing to meet for a half hour every week). I was down another .9 so my total is 12.4 lbs. I am doing pretty good keeping track on WW this time around. I think that I'm starting to be able to feel a difference. I have never stayed on something this long or lost this much without using medication or surgery.
Plus we have classifieds at work which is really nice. I have sold and bought a few things before. Someone was selling some cricut cartridges and I picked up two retired ones for only $15 each and they look like I could use them quite a bit. So I'm happy about that.
Cool, Jennifer. Scrap away!!!
Dana, now I guess I'm off to stalk your thread in Random. I almost never leave this room. On top of my time constraints to post anywhere else, it's just soooo cozy in here.
Erin, similar to your DH, my girlfriend teaches Women's Studies with an emphasis on the portrayal of women in the media, media literacy, facilitating the healing of distorted body images and promoting healthy body relationship. She blogs a lot on Ms., Elephant Journal and Jezebel.com. She sees misogynist subtext SO quickly. I feel like she'd be capable of finding something negative about any portrayal, whether it's of a strong female ("she is showing that women aren't comfortable in roles of power") or a weak one ("how stereotypical and helpless!"). Sometimes - particularly if the woman being depicted is a fictional character - I tell her to ease up, to let the characters be themselves, warts and all, just as we are in reality. But she is so focused at all times on the underlying statement about women as a whole. I guess it's good to have people out there to act as media police and raise awareness of the sociological impacts of the way groups are portrayed, but I personally wouldn't want to consume my media with her "glasses" on at all times. It would take much of the joy out of it for me. Plus, I still haven't figured out what - to her - represents the ideal female protagonist. She finds something wrong with every one.
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Chrissy, I'll PM you some links about GABA after I take the train into the office.
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Oh yeah, and WTG on 12.4 lbs Jennifer!! Whoo!!
Gwenn, I went to poke around in Random and noticed for the first time that you were made a mod. They made a good choice in you! How did I not know that, and when did that happen?
I never really had the time to spend outside of my own birth room (which has ported itself over to FB too) and this thread, so I can't really comment on things slowing down outside of here. I will selfishly just say that I hope enough activity remains out there to sustain these forums altogether, so I can continue to enjoy my time in here. Maybe I'll make the time to participate out there once in awhile to help the cause. Ooh, or perhaps there should be a concerted "forum revival" effort by the regulars to lure newcomers to Random from the most common APA entry points - i.e. Pregnancy and New Moms. "Operation Bring Back the Mama Drama"
I pretty much never watch commercials. I DVR so much that I just ff though most of them. Or watch things on demand. Or if watching live, I often pause the show and will do something else for 10-30 minutes....the dishes, take the dogs out, use the bathroom, clean up after the dogs, talk on the phone....that by the time I get back to the show, I can FF though all the commercials until I catch up.
That would really take a lot of joy out of reading or watching tv/movies if I picked apart all the characters so much. I cannot imagine what a perfect woman example would be. Whole conversation and I started playing that Meredith Brooks song B*tch in my head....love the line, I'm a little bit of everything all rolled into one.
I love love love reading....fiction almost always. But I found myself going crazy in lit classes trying to look for symbolism in everything. It just took a lot of the joy out of it.
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Oh, and PLEASE start a bring-back-the-mama-drama campaign!
Dana, I really totally agree with your comment from Random, but my somewhat newly-made mod hat was getting a little worked up over it, honestly because I think since I've become a mod, there's been precious little drama for us to mod! Really only one thread I can think of and that wasn't of the proportions of other drama I've seen on here. But what I have noticed is that the forum members (myself included) have a tendency to self-mod, or point things out to others in a thread with potential to get touchy, to prevent drama before it starts. My mod hat appreciates it, but really we do need the ability to have high-level conversations among adults. I guess that is a skill not everyone has and it's sad. Let's circle that point back to Erin's teaching critical thinking to her kids. Start young, folks.
I can see her point with certain things that are just blatantly misogynist, though. That stuff is out there and I'm not defending it.
Jennifer, congrats on losing that much weight!
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I had to tell you guys this. I had mentioned previously a friend of mine whose son was born the day before Mira, who struggled over 5 years and through 3 miscarriages to have her son. She has been trying to get pregnant pretty much since he was born, and just posted that she's pregnant again, another February baby. She is 43, and both pregnancies are the result of IVF.
That's brilliant for your friend, Suja! My two kids have been sleeping brilliantly lately and I have thought to myself, 'I am glad we are getting through all the babyness phase of life because getting at least 6 straight hours of sleep at night is amaaazing!' My SIL, on the other hand, gets all sad and romanticizes having a baby. She's got 3 (her youngest is 18 months old) and she says she'd have more if she could convince her DH.
Speaking of the SIL, we all went out yesterday with some other mums from school and one of them said something that annoyed me. We have a regular group of mums we see every other week or so socially, so they know us pretty well. Well, any how, we were at an event yesterday that was geared for kids Travis' age and up, so I had quite the time keeping Cash entertained and eventually had to put him in the stroller because he was so tired that he was starting to scream and cry when anyone tried to stop him for doing something dangerous. And this mum who has 2 of those kinds of kids that listen to her every word and never do anything naughty when anyone else is around said, "Oh, is he ever happy? Every time I see him, he is so moody." I just looked at her and gave her a look and said, "Really?" I'm proud of myself for not saying something like, "Oh, we can't all be lucky enough to have boring robot children, can we?" Cash is not moody. He's just a little boy who likes to try to push the boundaries and expecting him to be all right with being tied down to the stroller for so long is not realistic.


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Sustainable Finance
The risks and opportunities that (some) CFOS are overlooking
Two powerful and decades-long trends in business look set to intersect with increasing impact in coming years: the steady, significant expansion of the chief financial officer's (CFO) role, and the still-evolving effects of sustainability considerations on corporate strategies and operations. Although many CFOs have sustainability on their screens, some have yet to fully engage with the new risks – and opportunities – that the "sustainability imperative" presents.
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- Only one-third of CFOs describe themselves as fully involved in sustainability strategy and governance; one-fifth plan to get more involved in the next two years
- Nearly half of the CFOs surveyed are planning capital investments that will support the implementation of sustainability initiatives
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Coronary Angioplasty
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Coronary Angioplasty
(Balloon Angioplasty; Percutaneous Transluminal Coronary Angioplasty [PTCA]; Percutaneous Coronary Revascularization )
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Reasons for Procedure
Possible Complications
- Bleeding at the point of catheter insertion
- Damage to the walls of arteries, causing you to need more procedures or surgery
- Heart attack or abnormal heart beats called arrhythmia
- Allergic reaction to x-ray dye
- Blood clots
- Infection
- Stroke
- Temporary kidney failure
What to Expect
Prior to Procedure
- Your doctor may need to test your bodily fluids. This can be done with blood tests.
- You may need heart pictures and function tests. This can be done with:
Talk to your doctor about your current medicines. Certain medicines may need to be stopped before the procedure, such as:
- Anti-inflammatory drugs (eg, ibuprofen) for up to one week before surgery
- Blood-thinning medicines such as warfarin (Coumadin)
- Metformin (Glucophage) or glyburide and metformin (Glucovance)
- You should take aspirin before and during the procedure. Your doctor may also prescribe clopidogrel (Plavix) before the procedure.
- The night before, eat a light meal. Do not eat or drink anything after midnight.
- Arrange for a ride to and from the procedure.
- Arrange for help at home after returning from the hospital.
Description of Procedure
How Long Will It Take?
Will It Hurt?
Average Hospital Stay
Post-procedure Care
You may be sent home on blood-thinning therapy. This may include one or more of the following:
- Aspirin
- Warfarin
- Clopidogrel
- Prasugrel (Effient)
- Dabigatran etexilate (Pradaxa)
- Ice may help decrease discomfort at the insertion site. You may apply ice for 15-20 minutes each hour for the first few days.
- You can make lifestyle changes to lower your risk of complications of heart disease. These include eating a healthier diet, exercising regularly, and managing stress.
- Ask your doctor about when it is safe to shower, bathe, or soak in water.
- Be sure to follow your doctor's instructions .
Call Your Doctor
- Signs of infection, including fever and chills
- Redness, swelling, increasing pain, excessive bleeding, or any discharge from the incision site
- Your arm or leg becomes painful, blue, cold, numb, tingly, swollen, or increasingly bruised
- Nausea and/or vomiting
- Pain that you cannot control with the medicines you have been given
- Cough, shortness of breath, or chest pain
- Joint pain, fatigue, stiffness, rash, or other new symptoms
American Heart Association http://www.heart.org
National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov
Public Health Agency of Canada http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca
Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada http://www.heartandstroke.com
American College of Cardiology Task Force. American College of Cardiology/Society for Cardiac Angiography and Interventions clinical expert consensus document on cardiac catheterization laboratory standards: a report of the American College of Cardiology Task Force on clinical expert consensus documents. J Am Coll Cardiol . 2001 Jun 15;37(8):2170-2214.
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Bain S, Moheet AM, Rasmussen P. Which patients benefit from carotid stenting? What recent trials show. Cleve Clin J Med . 2008 Oct;75(10):714-20. Review.
Bravata DM, Gienger AL, McDonald KM, Sundaram V, Perez MV, Varghese R, Kapoor JR, Ardehali R, Owens DK, Hlatky MA.Systematic review: the comparative effectiveness of percutaneous coronary interventions and coronary artery bypass graft surgery. Ann Intern Med . 2007 Nov 20;147(10):703-16. Epub 2007 Oct 15. Review.
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Revision Information
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Birth of a classic
The Kinks' recording of 'You Really Got Me' in the summer of 1964 would establish them as one of Britain's most important bands and Ray Davies as a songwriter to be watched, notes Gordon Thompson, professor and chair of music. More.
A 'beacon of tolerance'
As Temple Sinai approaches its golden anniversary, its membership speaks to the 'charismatic drawing power' of Rabbi Linda Motzkin, Jewish chaplin at Skidmore, and her husband, Rabbi Jonathan Rubenstein. More.
Culture wars have a new turf
Soccer offers a new turf to play out the "culture wars" between cosmopolitanism and traditionalism, writes Andrew Lindner, assistant professor of sociology. "It is a divide ... between a relativist worldview that embraces diversity and global culture and an outlook that aims to maintain what they see as traditional American culture." More.
Faculty-Staff Achievements, Sept. 22, 2014
Wolff's essay receives "notable" citation, Brodie's work on exhibition at the Sage College of Albany, Ginsberg reflects on Scotland's vote. More
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By Taryn AsherFox 2 News ReporterLIVONIA, Mich. (WJBK) -- Police searching for a serial shooter who has targeted cars, including ones traveling I-96, are questioning anyone who even comes close to matching a description of the suspect. A local man shares his experience after being stopped.Joel Johnson was pulled over at I-96 and Six Mile in Livonia last week. He says he was treated like he was actually the suspect."I had no idea why I was getting pulled over," said Johnson.Like any other Monday morning, Johnson left his Walled Lake house and headed for his workplace in Plymouth. The shipping and receiving manager headed east on I-96, got off at Six Mile and noticed police flashing their lights."I had a green arrow to turn left, so I was quite confused," he explained.Police say they stopped him for his tinted windows, but that's not why officers searched his black Chevy Cobalt."Before I had a chance to say anything, he said, 'Do you have any weapons in the vehicle?' So I was like, 'No sir,'" Johnson said."Said, 'Will you please exit the vehicle?' So I did, and as soon as I got out, he said put the hands on the vehicle and remain calm, still, don't make any sudden movements. This is all for my protection."Johnson was told he caught the attention of authorities because his black sedan looked similar to a vehicle possibly driven by the suspected shooter of the I-96 corridor. The officer called for back up, searched Johnson and his vehicle."I thought it was a little much to be frisking me down, putting me on the side of the car and making me feel like a suspect," said Johnson.Police are clearly not taking any chances as they search for the person who is said to be responsible for shooting at moving cars since October 16. Cars have been struck in Oakland, Ingham, Shiawasse and Livingston counties, but only one motorist has been injured.Investigators are reviewing nearly 2,800 tips looking for the suspect believed to be a white man in his late twenties or early thirties. They think the gunman is from the area, one reason why Johnson's car registered to his wife's father in South Lyon had police taking a closer look.Johnson calls the 35 minute ordeal inconvenient, but he's glad police are taking the proper precautions and hopes the real shooter is caught before it's too late."I think it's absolutely senseless and reckless. I don't know why anyone would just literally shoot another person. They don't have the right to take another person's life," he remarked.Police have increased patrols. The reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction is $102,000. If you have any information, you are asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-SPEAK-UP.
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Comments On Jun 22, 2014:I went to a local track on day after school in the pouring rain eager to try out my new tires they worked pretty fair on hooking up in the soft dirt and mud but about an hour into riding i noted my front tire slipping more and more and my rear spinning more. The knobs started to fall off i am now missing half the front tire knobs and many rear tire ones. DO NOT GET THIS UNLESS U FEEL LIKE BUYING A NEW TIRE DAILY it wears extremely quick in soft dirt nevermind how quickly it would wear in hard pack
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Comments On Apr 15, 2014:I've used the rear tire. This thing hooks great! i put it on there last year and i race Hare scrambles and don't have the money to change tires every week. i still have this thing on the rear and it has wore but no knobs have broken off and it still hooks up great. this thing lasts long and keeps it traction on all kinds of terrain. ill definitely be buying another! Thanks rocky-mountain and pirelli for the great service and great tires!
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Comments On Apr 09, 2014:I bought 2 mx extras . Both tires failed in less then a half hour ride time. The cable in the bead broke. I contacted pirelli they said it was installed incorrectly. We race and change tires every two weeks . I've changed hundred of tires. These tires are junk. Don't waste your money. I can't chance failures at race speed.
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Comments On Dec 10, 2012:These tires are great! Pirelli has made some crappy tires in recent years, which really hurt their reputation. The eXtra ones are the tires to get. They last forever, great traction, are lightweight, and are easy to mount.
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Comments On Oct 23, 2012:Rear hooks up really well on soft and intermediate dirt. Predictable but does slide a bit on hard pack. The front works great on everything. This is the best wearing tire I've used on my 250 two stroke. No chunking even on rocky tracks. I like them better more than the Bridgestone 403/404 combo.
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Comments On Oct 01, 2012:This is an alright tire good on hard pack not real good in Mud or real soft stuff holds up pretty good on a KX450F for the price I would buy another one.
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Comments On Jun 20, 2012:This tire started coming apart after 2 weeks of riding. Had to buy a Bridgestone after using this tire for a month. Complete wast of my time and money.
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Comments On Apr 27, 2012:These are more of a race tire than an enduro tire. The lifespan is average for a race tire. They are a good predictable tire. I dont see what makes them Xtra though.
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By Andrea IsomFOX 2 News
DETROIT (WJBK) -- A Detroit teenager is behind bars after neighbors say he broke into a woman's home, stole her computer and tried to sell it back to her a few days later.Stephanie and Michael Schmidt say the teen broke into their neighbor's home on Pembroke a few days ago. He made away with a laptop, several television sets and a few bottles of alcohol. The Schmidts helped their neighbor clean up and filed a police report. But it was a few days later when the burglar returned to the scene.Michael says the teen offered the woman's computer back in exchange for $40. Thinking on her toes, the woman agreed to buy it back the next day and told the teen to come back for the money. When he returned, Detroit police were waiting to arrest him.The woman's laptop was returned to her, but police say her televisions were sold and the alcohol consumed.
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