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HOUSTON, TEXAS -- My experience with CONN'S has been by far the worst experience yet!!
PART 1: I went into the store Friday with a friend who was purchasing some merchandise. After listening to the sales pitch I thought to myself this isn't a bad place maybe I should see if I get approved. Of course I was approved for the $2000 amount (which I'm not finding is a norm). I picked out a couch and a camera. For whatever reason the transition couldn't be completed that night and I was asked to return the next day.
PART 2: Saturday morning I'm getting calls from Conn's to come by the store and finish my purchase. I arrived Saturday afternoon and was sitting around the store for several hours not doing anything. I left went and sat down at a deli, ate and came back and STILL had to wait some more. When I finally told the sales man TAI I was leaving and I wanted to just say forget the whole thing he hurried and followed me to the car with his manager, Shawn who would assist me from there. All the sudden everything went really fast. He told me to sign some papers not really explaining them and told me to sign two of each and I received neither. He gave me the camera and set up a delivery date for Monday and because I work it would be before 11am but he didn't know an exact time. Mind you I haven't paid for anything yet.
PART 3: I leave the store with my friend who originally went in to make a purchase. She had to pay a deposit and it was really weird that I didn't have to. We were in the car and Conn's hadn't collected any money from me nor did they have a way to. I considered not worrying about it but then thought that was really the dishonest thing to do. So about an hour after leaving the store I called back and made them aware of the store manager's mistake and paid over the phone. I was told that I would receive my receipt and some important documents Monday during my delivery.
PART 4: Monday comes around and I'm sleeping in waiting for my delivery. I've taken off of work so I'm losing money but I don't mind you have to do these things some times. At about 8am I receive a call and it's the warehouse. The guy on the phone lets me know he'll be there to deliver my couch anytime between 1pm and 4pm. Uh hello sir, just like you I have job that I need to go to and I live alone. I was told in the store before 11am. I would've taken off work but I had an important meeting right at 1pm. I was then informed that I would get another call on Tuesday and that the time would be unknown again. I was told by the CSR that they would make sure it would be before 11am this time.
PART 5: Tuesday comes along and so does 8am. No phone call from Conn's. So I finally decide to call about 9am and talk to the warehouse. I'm now informed over the phone that my delivery will come between 3 and 6pm. I'm sitting at home waiting because you said 11am. Okay oh well. I go into work (late mind you) and tell my company president I'll have to leave early at 3pm. Thankfully it wasn't a big deal. I asked to get a 30 minute call prior to getting my furniture so I could leave work and meet them. 3pm comes and no call so I keep working and working. At 4pm I decide to leave work and go home and wait for my delivery. I'm sitting at home at a 5pm I decide to call Conns right when I decide to call them and cancel the whole order literally as the man on the phone was pulling up my account the delivery man calls and states that he's lost outside.
PART 6: The delivery man was beyond rude on the phone and this would later continue in person. It was at this time about 5pm so traffic was kind of bad and it had just finished raining really bad. I gave him perfect directions to my building but because he had to make a sharp u-turn and then an immediate right in a large truck he wasn't able to get to me which I completely understand. On the phone he has an attitude with me like it's my fault though. He ended up parking his truck 2 building over from mine which meant they would have a little bit of a distant walk. I tried to get him to come into the back parking lot but he had an attitude at this time and was rude and irritated. They decided to dolly the furniture from the truck pass two buildings and up to the 3rd floor where I live. LOL bad idea but hey whatever. So, they finally get the furniture to my apartment and he asks me to sign a paper confirming I received the delivery. I did. I asked for my receipt and paperwork and of course he had no clue what I was talking about ugh!
PART 7: I'm not worried about the paperwork at this time I'm just finally happy to have my new couch. Now I can move around and worry about other things in life lol. As I'm touching my couch on the back end of it it's a huge metal piece sticking out the end! It's small enough not to see if you're not looking for it but big enough to see now that you know it's there. Being that I didn't know it was there I cut my thumb really really bad. Majority of my thumb was sliced across this metal piece which caused bad bleeding and is restricting my typing right now (I'm sure you can tell) lol.
PART 8: The next morning (today) I called Conn's to get my paperwork and tell them about the metal piece. Here is where the fun begins. I called the (877) 358-1252 number and get an immediate answer after like 1 one ring which was really weird to me for such a huge company. The girl who answered the phone was beyond rude and ghetto (ugh I hate using that word because it can be a good thing but it was bad in her case... very very very bad lol). I was informed for the first time ever that paper I signed with the delivery man was stating the we inspected the couch and that it was perfect therefore I wouldn't get an exchange. Then when I said I wanted to return the couch I once again hear for the first time that there is a no return policy which was NEVER mention to me. She called the store manager who told her he told me all this when he took my payment and gave me a receipt and some booklet brochure type thing. Hello?!? How can I get that if I didn't pay in the store. Remember I paid over the phone being stupid honest Billy?!? Anyway she argued with me, refused to allow me to speak and then hung up on me.
PART 9: I called back. (Wow this story is getting long, let me speed it up). I called back talked to a nice guy named DANIEL in collections he said oh no worries we'll help you out it hasn't even been 24 hours yet let me get you to the right department for a return. He transferred me to another lady who was equally as rude as the first. I'm at this point hot and want to return the cramp because I now hate this company with a passion. Her attitude was off the chain and I couldn't deal anymore so I asked to speak to a supervisor. She told me she was the supervisor. After going back and forth for a while she finally transfers me. The next lady, Crystal, I spoke to was very calm, polite and helpful (so I thought). She informed me I couldn't return the cramp but I could do a volunteer repo. At this point that's exactly what I want to do. I don't care what it does to my credit I just don't want to deal with Conns anymore. She tells me to go to the store and they will help me with the volunteer repo and they will come pick up the furniture. I'm finally happy and can breathe. Mind you ALL these phone calls are while I'm at work.
PART 10: Less than 5 minutes after happily ending my last phone call. I get a call from Shawn the store manager to find out what's going on. I tell him the whole very long story and he tells me I was informed wrong. I was told not to come back to the store ever again if I planned on returning the stuff. If I wanted to return it I needed to speak the customer help line that I just hung up with and that I would have to find a way to return the material myself. I didn't want to stay on the phone with him long because he too was very rude so I hung up the phone and called back the helpline. I now get a chance to talk to Geraldine. I'm learning names very well lol. She tells me this whole long story about the last lady was wrong and that they won't pick up the furniture but I can still do the volunteer repo. She transfers me. I'm on hold for 20 minutes and nothing. So I call on my other line. Now I'm on hold for the repo department on two phone lines. The second line I had been on hold for about 5 minutes when a lady answers I tell her what I'm waiting for and she puts me back on hold. About two minutes later Geraldine answers the phone surprised that its me. I know this because she says
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LUFKIN, TEXAS -- In March of 2011 my husband and I bought a bedroom set with mattress and box springs. We had to have it delivered/setup, the delivery guys would not come into our home and did not set up our bedroom set. We noticed when we were setting the bed frame up that the head board and foot board had some problems the head board had a crack all the way down the back of it (like someone stepped onto it) and the foot board had spots were someone had touched it with glue on there hands then tried to stain over it letting the stain run all the way down the foot board. I called Conn's and spoke with my salesman about it he said hold and got the manager on the phone then the manager told me we will order you a new head and foot board it will be here in 3 days. 4 days later I called to check on the bed and found out it was never ordered, the salesman then ordered it and hand delivered it plus set the whole thing up for nothing for all the problems I had with the bed and the manager.
In February 2012 I called to set up service for my mattress I had purchased in March 2011 due to the mattress starting to sag and push out the sides it was set up for March 2012 the service tech came out took his pictures and measurements and sent in his report, I called 2 weeks after the service tech was out and check the status of the report I found out that it was closed due to "nobody was home to do a service call for" I gave them the name of the person who came out the time they arrived and the time he left they then informed me he no longer works for them and they will set me up for another service call in 6 months since I missed the last service call. In October 2012 the service tech came out and took pictures and measurements again (this time it the sagging was much worse than before) the guy said he would file the report and I could call in 3 days if I have not heard anything 3 days came and I was about to call them and a voice mail came in telling me to go pick out a new mattress they were replacing it.
In early November of 2011 my husband and I purchased a living room set from Conn's, had to pick it up because it was going to be after Thanksgiving before they could set up delivery. We picked it up and set it up at home, on the loveseat the whole chair started falling toward the left and it was becoming noticeable when you looked at it. In March of 2012 I called and set up service the first of 4 (8 if you count the 4 for pictures and then 4 for the service) service people came out did his pictures and said we need to order parts they will be shipped here and a tech will come out and replace the parts. The parts arrived and set in my living room for a week before I called service to ask when they were coming out I was told there had been no request for a tech to come out and they would schedule one, he came out replaced the parts and that was that about a 2 weeks later I had to call service again for the same problem (this time you would just fall to the arm of the chair) The service guy came out took pictures and ordered the same parts and told me the same thing about "when the parts arrive the service tech will be out here to fix/replace the parts" I waited 3 days and called to make sure a service guy would be coming (he was) he came out and fixed it again and told me the same thing "if there is anymore problem just call service".
In July of 2012 I called for service to come back out for the same problem they again did the same service and I ended up call for them again In September 2012 when the tech came out to do the pictures and all that he does I let him do it waited a few days called to check on the service was told the man was going to be there Monday between 8am-11am to fix the problem I said that was fine the guy arrived with the part fixed and was about to leave when UPS dropped off the part he told us to keep the extra part if we wanted to which we did. I called in again but told them this was going to be replaced because they have already been out to fix the same issue 4 times they told me I could not get it replaced because I did not buy the warranty I then told them that I have not even had this a year and it was sold to me broken they said all they can do is keep sending out service techs to fix the issue and I could only have it serviced 6 times before I was charged the service fee. I told them that there would be no reason to set up service because I was going to the press about this and would be bring the furniture back to there front door, I hung up with that person got on the computer and sent emails to the local paper about what was going on I also called BBB and Cat napper (the maker of the living room set).
I was called in September 2012 by Conns head office saying that a new loveseat was ordered and I could pick it up whenever I wished. I went to pick it up and the store manager told me that I would have to load it myself that her employees would not touch that couch, I said that was fine with me I went to go find it and she told me I was not allowed to go in the back room that she would have it brought to the front door for me then I must load it myself, 2 really nice young men brought it to the front and loaded it for me and told here she could not do that to a customer (they were both fired 2 weeks later). In April 2013 we had to buy a microwave due to ours catching on fire, so I went to Conn's and picked it out. I had to do an in house credit for personal reasons, got everything done and even showed them my homeowners insurance. I was going to have an 11.00 a month payment for 12 months. I went in on May 19, 2013 and made a payment of 11.00. Before I made the payment my balance due was 105.33 so, when I made the payment my payoff should have dropped to 94.33 which I thought it had. I went in on May 21, 2013 to go ahead and pay it off the new pay off was 106.48 after the 11.00 was taken off for a payment, the cashier called customer service they told her the computer was right and the customer was wrong. I asked to speak with them she then told me that because I was paying it off sooner than the 12 months that there is interest that is where the balance of 106.48 comes in.
When asked why my sale slip says 105.33 due in full she said it was and error and Conn's is not responsible for errors like that. I told here my payment book tells me that I owe Conn's 94.33 and that is what I will pay if there is any problem then Conn's can take me to court. She then told me that I was being rude and not giving here a chance to fix the mistake/misunderstanding.
I asked her if she could please tell me why there was and additional 5.00 charge on this account and she said it was for insurance. I told her she was wrong because the salesman took my papers and made copies of them showing my home owners insurance. So I asked her " so I was being charged for insurance which I already had, plus I'm being charged more for paying it off early." She said, "No, you are going to pay the 106.48 owed on the account or it will be turned over to collections." I said, " I will not give you a dime. You can turn me over to collections and I will contest this and see you and Conn's in court." I then hung up.
Two hours later, my cell phone rang and Conns was calling me to tell me there was a misunderstanding and my balance due is 95.00. My husband went and paid it off, even after telling him not to.
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No Interest scam, three ways.
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MCALLEN, TEXAS -- A couple of years ago, we got a front loader Whirlpool Washer and Dryer from Conn's in McAllen, Texas. They were promoting a "No Interest" payment plan. So, like naive idiots, we jumped in with both feet, since our washer was on the fritz. They had the monthly payment price figured so the interest would kick in, so we asked the salesman to figure the payments so we would have everything paid off in full by the final payment, with no interest. He did (supposedly) and we made our payments of $118 on the due date, or during their 10 day grace period, though they released the hounds on you, calling you with extremely harassing calls if you were in the "grace period". We were never, ever late.
Well, we were getting down to the last payment, and I noticed that if I made my last payment of $118, I would be $3 short of having the total amount paid off, and the $500 of interest would kick in. I realized that despite our request to have the entire amount paid off before the interest kicked in, they were making it a few bucks short so if we didn't catch it, they would still make their money from us off the interest. Feeling good that we didn't get caught in their little deceptive trap, I knew I had to pay $121 on my last payment (August 2009), and I'd have it paid off, and would be saved from having to pay $500 in interest. I went in a Conn's store on Monday, August 3rd to make my final payment, and was told that because I didn't make the final payment the day before on Sunday August 2nd, that I was going to have to pay ALL the interest. I told the checker that I didn't even know they were even open on Sundays to take payments, which she said they were. I asked her what about the 10 day "grace period" to make the payment, and she said that it doesn't apply on the last payment. She said that all the interest was accrued at midnight on August 2nd, and even though I was paying just a few hours after that, I would have to pay ALL the interest, and not just some of it for being a few hours "late."
So, we got the people on the phone at Conn's "Customer Service" and they gave me the same old lines they probably tell all the other "suckers" like me that had been screwed over by Conn's on this deceptive "no interest" program. So, I asked for a manager, and she explained to me that she could put in a request for "forgiveness on the cash option," and that it would be reviewed by senior management, and that I would be notified within a week.
Never heard from anybody after a week, so I called them up, and was told that the request was on file, but it had not been reviewed yet. She said that there were so many of these requests, that they were taking a long time to get through all of them. I guess a lot of other people were getting screwed over too. She finished the conversation by saying that I should call by the end of the month. So, I called at the end of the month, and was told the same thing (hadn't been reviewed due to huge backlog of similar requests, and to call again next week). Well, today, on September 4th, we started getting harassing calls from their collection people wanting us to pay up. So, I called to talk to the customer service, and was told the same thing, it hadn't been reviewed and to call back later. I told her if I did that, the payment would be late, if it wasn't "forgiven." She said that's all she could do, so I talked to her manager. This person, who was talking so ghetto, I could barely understand her, started out saying the same thing. She said I could fax in the receipt with an explanation, and that would be reviewed by Senior Management, which had never been mentioned by any of the previous people I had dealt with at Conn's. Then after going around and around with her for about 10 minutes, she finally came out and said, "No one is going to even look at this, because you were supposed to make the payment on that Sunday, and even if you didn't know we were open, and made your payment a few hours later on Monday, all the interest is now due. There's no way out of it, and there's no use in waiting any more, because you will be denied." Then, when I tried to explain the situation, she wouldn't even let me explain, she would just butt in during the middle of my sentence, saying we had nothing else to talk about! When I told her I would appreciate it if I could finish my sentence, she started getting really rude! She said there was nothing more for us to talk about and I had to pay the extra five hundred bucks, and there was no way out of it. That she was the highest level of management I could talk to, since senior management did not take phone calls. I asked her, so why she told me to fax the receipt to them then, and she just kept telling me how I just needed to make the payments, and then she hung up on me.
So, beware of Conn's "no interest" program, because if you make every payment in full, and on time, they'll figure the payments deceptively so you'll have to pay the interest anyway. And, they'll set it up for you to make your final payment on a Sunday, (which isn't a typical day I pay bills since I'm in church and spending the day with my family), so you'll hopefully pay a day late. Then, they'll tell you to keep jumping through hoops and giving you hope after the fact, and wasting your time by telling you they're going to review the situation, which they were never planning to do from the start. None of the things that they said was true, and all they are out for is a one-time customer, and not return customers.
Our next purchase after getting this washer/dryer paid off is for a 52 to 55 inch LCD flat screen TV, and Conn's would have been one of the companies we would have shopped. But after their deceptive practices, we will NEVER, EVER step foot in a Conn's store again!!!! Somebody else will be getting our business. And with a family of four young children, we will be buying a lot more appliances, computers and furniture that Conn's could have been considered for. But not now. Plus, we own a photography business, which uses camera and computer equipment which Conn's sells. Sorry Conn's, after this little rip off scheme you pulled on us, you burned the one and only bridge between us! You, Conns, are the losers in the long haul. And it's kind of a bad time to be alienating and ripping off your customers that have made on time payments over two years, when the economy is this bad. As a business owner, we know it's much easier to keep an existing client, than to go beat the bushes to find another faithful client. We'll make sure to tell all our friends and family (which are a bunch), and will post this all over the web and on Facebook, on which we have hundreds of friends. The good thing is we have come out a little wiser (though this lesson cost us $500) to these types of schemes and will hopefully be able to not fall for this sort of thing in the future. We just hope this helps someone else out, and can keep someone else from getting ripped off by Conn's (which is such an appropriate name!!!)!!!!
Lance and Deborah Krueger
McAllen, Texas
Company Response 1/29/2010:
Dear Conn's customer,
We would like to apologize for the problem you have had with our company and would like to resolve your complaint for you. Please contact us at:
1-877-358-1252 or via the web at http://support.conns.com
Thank you
Conn's customer support
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saj80 on 2009-09-04:
First, if you are in the "grace period", you are late. Second, why didn't you figure how much to send each month to ensure it was paid in full before maturity. I have used these plans before, and always figure a payment based on one or two months shorter than the full term, so I know it will be paid in full. Third, one minute, one hour, one day, one week; it doesn't matter on the last payment. If not paid on or before the actual date due, accrued interest for the entire term will kick in. You made a gamble in waiting until the day payment was due (actually, a day later), and lost.
bargod on 2009-09-04:
I think allowing the salesman to do the math for you on the payments was your downfall. It's in their best interest to make sure you don't complete all the payments before the due date.
Anonymous on 2009-09-04:
Since you spend your Sundays in church and so are unable to pay your bills then, you should have paid the bill that Friday or Saturday instead.
And how dare you say you were "screwed over by Conn's on this deceptive "no interest" program." You screwed yourself trying to work a plan for which you couldn't do the math.
MaggieMcT on 2009-09-04:
You knew the due dates, you didn't meet them, and not just the last one either apparently. There's nothing deceptive about it.
PepperElf on 2009-09-04:
I agree... you knew the rules but chose to "hope" they wouldn't apply to you
and found out the hard way that they do indeed apply
BokiBean on 2009-09-04:
What a ridiculous way to get that interest...late on the last payment and because of that, all interest for the duration of the loan is due now? What a ripoff.
Sorry you learned the hard way and thanks for putting your experience out there. You might be able to save someone else the trouble.
Slimjim on 2009-09-04:
How is it a rip off? The terms clearly state you must pay all the balance ON TIME within the year to get the interest waived, and the poster knew this. They learned a lesson here about cutting things close and also that being past your due date, is in fact, late. An unfortunate ending for the poster which would have been nice if it turned out differently, but when the day is done, it was their error. No rip off, no scam. Everything was up front and disclosed.
Anonymous on 2009-09-04:
They got you good dude. Sounds like they're pros at it. slim, it is a scam if Conn's set it up to be $3 short at the final payment.
PepperElf on 2009-09-04:
slim - exactly. the rules were clearly written out in plain English.
BokiBean on 2009-09-04:
Deborah, what rate of interest did they charge you in the end?
rsflores9 on 2009-09-22:
grace period=late.
if you could not make your payments on time, you should not have opened an account with ANY store.
any store, not just conn's, has this policy. that is why LATE CHARGES exist.
iFAM30US on 2013-08-28:
My experience with CONN'S has been by far the worst experience yet!!
PART 1: I went into the store Friday with a friend who was purchasing some merchandise. After listening to the sales pitch I thought to myself this isn't a bad place maybe I should see if I get approved. Of course I was approved for the $2000 amount (which I'm not finding is a norm). I picked out a couch and a camera. For whatever reason the transition couldn't be completed that night and I was asked to return the next day.
PART 2: Saturday morning I'm getting calls from Conn's to come by the store and finish my purchase. I arrived Saturday afternoon and was sitting around the store for several hours not doing anything. I left went and sat down at a deli, ate and came back and STILL had to wait some more. When I finally told the sales man TAI I was leaving and I wanted to just say forget the whole thing he hurried and followed me to the car with his manager SHAWN who would assist me from there. All the sudden everything went really fast. He told me to sign some papers not really explaining them and told me to sign two of each and I received neither. He gave me the camera and set up a delivery date for Monday and because I work it would be before 11am but he didn't know an exact time. Mind you I haven't paid for anything yet.
PART 3: I leave the store with my friend who originally went in to make a purchase. She had to pay a deposit and it was really weird that I didn't have to. We were in the car and Conn's hadn't collected any money from me nor did they have a way to. I considered not worrying about it but then thought that was really the dishonest thing to do. So about an hour after leaving the store I called back and made them aware of the STORE MANAGER'S mistake and paid over the phone. I was told that I would receive my receipt and some important documents Monday during my delivery.
PART 4: Monday comes around and I'm sleeping in waiting for my delivery. I've taken off of work so I'm losing money but I don't mind you have to do these things some times. At about 8am I receive a call and it's the warehouse. The guy on the phone lets me know he'll be there to deliver my couch anytime between 1pm and 4pm. Uh hello sir just like you I have job that I need to go to and I live alone. I was told in the store before 11am. I would've taken off work but I had an important meeting right at 1pm. I was then informed that I would get another call on Tuesday and that the time would be unknown again. I was told by the CSR that they would make sure it would be before 11am this time.
PART 5: Tuesday comes along and so does 8am. No phone call from Conn's. So I finally decide to call about 9am and talk to the warehouse. I'm now informed over the phone that my delivery will come between 3 and 6pm. WTH I'm sitting at home waiting because you said 11am. Okay oh well. I go into work (late mind you) and tell my company president I'll have to leave early at 3pm. Thankfully it wasn't a big deal. I asked to get a 30 minute call pprior to getting my furniture so I could leave work and meet them. 3pm comes and no call so I keep working and working. At 4pm I decide to leave work and go home and wait for my delievery. I'm sitting at home at a 5pm I decide to call Conns right when I decide to call them and cancel the whole order literally as the man on the phone was pulling up my account the delivery man calls and states that he's lost outside.
PART 6: The delivery man was beyond rude on the phone and this would later continue in person. It was at this time about 5pm so traffice was kind of bad and it had just finished raining really bad. I gave him perfect directions to my building but because he had to make a sharp uturn and then an immediate right in a large truck he wasn't able to get to me which I completely understand. On the phone he has an attitude with me like it's my fault though. He ended up parking his truck 2 building over from mine which meant they would have a little bit of a distant walk. I tried to get him to come into the back parking lot but he had an attitude at this time and was rude and irritated. They decided to dolly the furniture from the truck pass two buildings and up to the 3rd floor where I live. LOL bad idea but hey whatever. SO they finally get the furniture to my apartment and he asks me to sign a paper confirming I received the delivery. I did. I asked for my receipt and paperwork and of course he had no clue what I was talking about ugh!
PART 7: I'm not worried about the paperwork at this time I'm just finally happy to have my new couch. Now I can move around and worry about other things in life lol. As I'm touching my couch on the back end of it it's a huge metel piece sticking out the end. WTH?! It's small enough not to see if you're not looking for it but big enough to see now that you know it's there. Being that I didn't know it was there I cut my thumb really really bad. Majority of my thumb was sliced across this metal piece which caused bad bleeding and is restricting my typing right now (I'm sure you can tell) lol.
PART 8: The next morning (today) I called Conn's to get my paperwork and tell them about the metal piece. Here is where the fun begins. I call the (877) 358-1252 number and get an immediate answer after like 1 one ring which was really weird to me for such a huge company. The girl who answered the phone was beyond rude and ghetto (ugh I hate using that word because it can be as good thing but it was bad in her case... very very very bad lol). I was informed for the first time ever that paper I signed with the delivery man was stating the we inspected the couch and that it was perfect therefore I wouldn't get an exchange. Then when I said I wanted to return the couch I once again hear for the first time that there is a no return policy which was NEVER mention to me. She called the store manager who told her he told me all this when he took my payment and gave me a receipt and some booklet brochure type thing. Hello?!? How can I get that if I didn't pay in the store. Remember I paid over the phone being stupid honest Billy?!? Anyway she argued with me, refused to allow me to speak and then hung up on me.
PART 9: I called back. (Wow this story is getting long, let me speed it up). I called back talked to a nice guy named DANIEL in collections he said oh no worries we'll help you out it hasn't even been 24 hours yet let me get you to the right department for a return. He transferred me to another lady who wsa equally as rude as the first. I'm at this point hot and want to return the cramp because I now HATE this company with a passion. Her attitude was off the chain and I couldn't deal anymore so I asked to speak to a supervisor. She told me she was the supervisor. After going back and forth for a while she finally transfers me. The next lady, CRYSTAL I speak to was very calm, polite and helpful (so I thought). She informed me I couldn't return the cramp but I could do a volunteer repo. At this point that's exactly what I want to do. I don't care what it does to my credit I just don't want to deal with Conns anymore. She tells me to go to the store and they will help me with the volunteer repo and they will come pick up the furniture. I'm finally happy and can breathe. Mind you ALL these phone calls are while I'm at work.
PART 10: Less than 5 minutes after happily ending my last phone call. I get a call from SHAWN the store manager to find out what's going on. I tell him the whole very long story and he tells me I was informed wrong. I was told NOT to come back to the store ever again if I planned on returning the stuff. If I wanted to return it I needed to speak the customer help line that I just hung up with and that I would have to find a way to return the material myself. I didn't want to stay on the phone with him long because he too was very rude so I hung up the phone and called back the helpline. I now get a chance to talk to GERALDINE. I'm learning names very well lol. She tells me this whole long story about the last lady was wrong and that they won't pick up the furniture but I can still do the volunteer repo. She transfers me. I'm on hold for 20 minutes and nothing. So I call on my other line. Now I'm on hold for the repo department on TWO PHONE LINES. The second line I had been on hold for about 5 minutes when a lady answers I tell her what I'm waiting for and she puts me back on hold. About two minutes later geraldine answers the phone surprised that its me. I know this because she says "Oh I think I talked to you earlier". I told her I'm still on the hold she puts me on and she transfers me again. I held on for a few more minutes and hung up.
Now I'm completely stuck. I have no clue what to do. I don't want anything to do with Conn's. I'm willing to take the loss of the deposit and even rent a truck to deliver the furniture but I can't get a hold of anybody or help from the people I talk to. This has been the worst experience ever. All of the employees from in store, delivery and CSR are all extremely rude!! I'm at a lost of what's the next step to do from here. #UGH
I would NEVER recommend this company to anybody!! Not even my worst enemy.
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FORT WORTH, TEXAS -- Please read this letter I sent to SVP, it explains it all:
Mr Brucehart,
I would like to first thank you for reading this email. I feel it very necessary to tell you about my recent experience with your store manager at the Cherry Lane Fort Worth Texas Store. After many purchases made at this store and receiving wonderful customer service each time, my husband and I decided to purchase an HD TV. On January 7th 2008 we went to the store and Jonathan Key was our salesman. He was a nice young man and we looked at several TVs but Jonathan pointed out that he had a TV on clearance that should be just fine for us. This was an AKIA 32" Flat screen HD TV. I told him that I felt unsure because I had not heard of this brand before but he assured me that it was a really good brand and your store had been carrying it for quite some time and never had any problems. So we purchased this TV for $499.99.
Well sometime in July 08' while watching TV it just turned off. After looking around and trying to plug it into a different outlet, I determined that it was the TV. I asked my husband to take it to Conn's and find out what we should do (we had purchased a service warranty). When my husband got to the store he approached a salesman and explained the problem. The man directed him to a phone, dialed customer service and handed my husband the phone and walked away. After waiting on hold for about 10 minutes my husband got frustrated, hung up and left. So then a few days later I went to the store myself and requested to speak to the store manager. This was Mr Van Woods and at the time he was busy so I patiently waited for him.
When he approached me I pleasantly told him of my deli ma and requested he tell me what I need to do to fix the situation. Well this is where it gets good. Mr Van Woods, in a VERY condescending way said: "Mrs. Grantham, just as we probably explained to your husband, this TV is no longer carried in this store so there is nothing we can do to fix it. Now what we CAN do is sell you a more expensive TV as long as you are willing to pay the difference in cost.".. This confused me a little since I purchased a warranty so I said: "Can we not send the TV to get repaired?" and his response was this "Mrs. Grantham, we could send it to our service department but MOST likely the problem will turn out to be customer abuse so it would be in your best interest to let me see what we have in stock and you can upgrade as I said before."
All of these things were said to me in a very condescending way with him standing over me as if I was some really stupid little girl. So I stood up and told him that there is no way it could be customer abuse because the TV has not been moved and then he says (I cannot believe this one), he says: "Ma'am have you ever heard of a power surge!".... At this point I am so stunned by his tone with me and his inability to just simply say "Mrs. Grantham, here at Conn's we try to make sure that every one of our customers have a wonderful experience with their purchases and I am very sorry that this has happened to you. I will be happy to refer you to our service department or you could upgrade your TV today its up to you." These are very easy and non confrontational words but Mr. Van Woods is VERY incapable of such. I ended up leaving very upset (to the point of tears) and calling the AKIA warranty department.
This of course brought me nothing because AKIA no longer exists (which may explain why the TV was on clearance and Jonathan was so eager to sell it to us and With a boss like Van Woods, who has no integrity, I would not be surprised that his employees are the same way.) Anyway the warranty company had some man come and pick up my TV and they kept it for 6 weeks before giving it back to me the same way he took it. AKIA is not shipping out power supplies and so any AKIA unit can not be repaired. So here I am back to square one... Well the point of this email is really to let you know how horribly I have been treated by Van Woods at this store so I will get to it.
My next trip to the store was Friday September 5th. I had been speaking to Cathy Brown in Beaumont, she said that she would call Mr Woods and tell him to get me a new TV. When I arrived at the store he said he had not talked to her and then he starts calling service. (this is of course after he made sure to condescend me some more by explaining that he couldn't possibly remember me since he deals with so many customers everyday) Well this email is already to long and I am just going to say that he humiliated me in front of other customers and my husband and refused to satisfy me as a customer of Conn's. He had a Toshiba 32" Flat Screen HD TV for 569.99, which is only $70.00 more than what I paid but he refused to write off $70.00 and exchange my TV.
As he and several other employees at your company explained to me, Conn's does not and will not ever write off $70.00 in order to keep a customers business. The funny thing is that all the times I was on hold with your customer service department, I get to hear a recording that says that Conn's has been doing everything in its power to make sure every customer is satisfied since 18 something. What a joke! The interest that I have paid on this TV that does not work is $109.75 so why is it that I can not have the Toshiba for $70.00 more. That does not include the interest that I paid from purchasing a dishwasher, dryer, stove, 2 laptops, 3 I-Pods, a flat screen monitor, microwave, pots and pan set, freezer, sweeper and a futon.
I think that my service to Conn's is well worth $70.00 and I am so very disappointed by the way that I have been treated that at this point it is all principle. I will never ever purchase anything from Conn's again and I will definitely let everyone I talk to know how I was treated. Strangers and friends alike will hear my story since I plan to contact the local television station here who loves to catch businesses practicing unethically.
I am very sorry that you had to be bothered by this as I really did make GREAT attempts to reach Bill Ward who is the District manager in this area. However after being told by several of his managers at others stores that he would not help me anyway, I finally gave up. (I did leave many messages for him with no response) I would strongly advise that you remove Van Woods from contact with customers as I can not see how there would be any way he can manage this store that is in a very bad location without running it into the ground.
I appreciate your time,
Wendy Grantham
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BenSteph118 on 2008-09-10:
I can empathize with every part of your letter. I too received the same kind of treatment from not only the manager but assistant managers and the salesman who initially sold me a faulty laptop and a love seat that never came. This was from a different store in Texas, no surprise. I am eager to find out if your letter was ever responded to so that I may make the same effort.
2SickAndTired on 2008-10-30:
This is apparently Conn's Standard Operating Procedure. I received the same treatment, but my product was still within its 30 day from receipt window. Does anyone know if there is a class actions being pursued?
mom2six on 2009-02-12:
I'm wondering the same. It seems that they sell defective products, pocket service fees and try to get you to spend more money upgrading your appliance as a standard way of doing business. They use their service representatives to mollify and stall so that items are no longer available. And we've all been put on hold to listen to the free upgrade recording that they have no intention of honoring. Interesting.
LuccyLuu on 2009-02-27:
I had the same problem with my dishwasher it was broken when they delivered it and they told me they would be back in 2 weeks well they say you have 10 days from delivery to get it replaced how can you do that they came back in 2 weeks my 10 days was up
LuccyLuu on 2009-02-27:
I don't care who you know you will not get this problem resolved I have family that live in Vidor and knew the Mr Conn personally and if you mention that to the people at conns they laugh. They do not care about you or your situation. You are waisting your time, energy, and voice. If you want my advice get a lawyer! All costomers of Conns need one.
registeremail on 2009-06-20:
I'm afraid that it's probably too late to help Ms. Grantham, but I had a similar experience with Van Woods at Conn's that I was finally able to resolve. Perhaps my experience will help the next reader.
We bought a lower priced Whirlpool clothes washer at the Conn's on Hulen Street, and were immediately dissatisfied. It was way too loud and although the timer dial had a "delicate" setting (that to us implied a 2-speed motor), if you set it to delicate, it would just run at full speed, pause, and then run at full speed again. That isn't delicate! Initially we tried to make-do by closing the utility room door and doing delicates by hand, but after having the washer for less than a week and a half it broke down due to a manufacturer's defect in the timer.
We bought the washer at a local brick-and-mortar store for service after the sale and because Conn's has a 30-day return policy. (After all, you can't "try out" a washer in a store). We contacted the then-store manager to return the washer or exchange it for a different model and were told that she could not process a return because the washer was broken! She said that we had to go through the service department for a return. The service department told us that they could not handle a return, only a repair. We weren't interested in keeping the washer, since we were dissatisfied with it before it ever broke, so we again contacted the store. The managers had since changed to Van Woods and asst. manager Billy Brink, and they said the same thing- no returning the washer (even during the 30-day return period) because it was broken!
After multiple attempts to contact Conn's corporate customer service by phone (no help there), speaking to Conn's DFW service manager Greg Leblanc (no help there), trying to contact Conn's district manager Clay Roberts (wouldn't even return phone calls, so no help there), we finally got a response to an email sent to Conn's customer service. Never mind that the response to the email came after THREE MONTHS!
It turns out that Conn's is apparently being investigated by the Texas Attorney General's Office for their handling of extended warranties, and in response to that investigation and other issues they have recently created a "Customer Help Group" that dug up our old thus far ignored email and contacted us. The Customer Help Group really seems to want to help, and is actually EMPOWERED to help. They not only resolved my problem to my satisfaction (took the washer back, refunded ALL of my payments including delivery fees, waived the re-stocking fee, etc.) but they also arranged to have district manager Clay Roberts and store manager Van Woods call me to apologize for their lack of help.
I would encourage anyone with a customer service issue to speak with the store manager and try to resolve the problem. But failing that, try calling Conn's customer service department at 1-877-472-5422 and ask for help. If the customer service agent can't or won't help (or just transfers you around aimlessly or cuts you off), ask for the Customer Help Group. If you have a legitimate concern and are willing to be persistent, I'll bet that you'll eventually get the help you'll need from them.
Hope this helps.
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Conn Artist Worse Place to Do Business
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DALLAS, TEXAS -- Conn's refuse accept responsibility for their sales practices. The 12 months same as cash is not even listed in the contracts. People beware this is only a verbal agreement in which they will find any reason not to honor. Conn have engaged in, and will continue to engage in the unlawful practices set forth below.
Conn's have caused and will cause immediate, irreparable injury, loss and damage to myself, and will also cause adverse effects to legitimate business enterprises which lawfully conduct trade and commerce. Despite the lengthy and high pressure sales presentation, I was not presented with a copy of the actual terms and conditions of the 12 months same as cash at the time of the sale in the store. The actual terms and conditions of the 12 months same as cash are not made available to the consumer and not disclosed by Conn's prior to the sale. Unknown to the customer at the time of sale, 12 months same as cash contains exclusions, limitations of liability, cancellation penalties, and an arbitration clause—all of which are designed to favor Conn's.
In addition, at the time of sale the consumer is misled to believe that the 12 months same as cash is for 12 months and will cover the product for the one year period; the actual terms of the agreement, are quite different and state that the agreement "expires" upon any payment that is over 10 days late.
That Conn's refused to honor the terms of agreement and continues to advertise it under false pretense.
Conn's in the course and conduct of trade and commerce, have directly and indirectly engaged in false, misleading and deceptive acts and practices declared to be unlawful by the DTPA §17.46(a). Without limiting the foregoing, Conn's also have violated DTPA §17.46(b), by engaging in the following conduct: false, misleading, or deceptive acts or practices in the course of trade or commerce.
Therefore causing confusion or misunderstanding as to affiliation, connection, or association with, or certification by, another. By representing that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, characteristics, ingredients, uses, benefits, or quantities which they do not have or that a person has a sponsorship, approval, status, affiliation, or connection which he does not. By representing that goods or services are of a particular standard, quality, or grade, or that goods are of a particular style or model, if they are another. By advertising goods or services with intent not to sell them as advertised. By representing that an agreement confers or involves rights, remedies, or obligations which it does not have or involve, or which are prohibited by law. By failing to disclose information concerning goods or services which was known at the time of the transaction if such failure to disclose such information was intended to induce the consumer into a transaction into which the consumer would not have entered had the information been disclosed Because Conn's have engaged in the unlawful acts and practices described above, Conn's have violated and will continue to violate the law as alleged. Stay away from them you will be trapped like me and my family and get nothing but excuses on how they refuse to fix the issue at hand. I am referring this to the Attorney General Office. This predatory to all Texas citizens
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conns employee on 2014-07-08:
You were given a contract with a 12 month no interest policy stated in it there is a whole page dedicated to it, you must have never used credit before ever, because every other credit company takes away your no interest option after one day late we give you ten days to keep it. Furthermore there are no penalties for paying off early, or going over the 12 month option your payments are set up under the assumption that you might have something happen that will leave you unable to use the cash option, so there is no balloon payments for you, you are also able to pay off early and still pay less in interest than you would have normally. You really need to read your contract.
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Con 's at Conns
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First of all In my line of work I deal with the public and I mean a lot of people which are now not shopping at Conns due to my personal experience. Conns has owed me a little over 100.00 dollars for 5 months which they took out of my personal checking account after I paid off my mattress set. They have given me the run around at least 2 times a week since October. I have been a loyal customer for 3 years. I should have been aware after the dishwasher I bought for 475.00 broke down 3 days after warranty and they would not send out a repair man. I paid 75.00 for a repair man from my area to come to fix it but, he said that the dishwasher had internal problems and could not be fixed. Because 3 days is 3 days and I try to follow the rules of a establishment that I do business with, I excepted the situation and bought one from Sears, which is still working great after 2 years. Well a good sell at Conns turned my head and I again bought from Conns, a mattress and box springs. Which I paid in good faith, even paying off early. Conns let the consumer set up payments 3 months in advance so that is the how I set my payment plan up with Conns, every 3 months I called and set up the 3 payments from my checking account, I paid off my mattresses off early and told Conns to not take out any more payments due to pay off. The next month they took out a payment. I called them and told them of the mistake on their part. They wanted proof so my bank sent proof. They said they would send me a check in 10 days. In ten days, no check. But 10 days late another withdraw to Conns was taken out of my account. I called, was sent to 3 different departments, said again to send the proof. I did this. I called a week later and found that I had been taken out of the system, It took 2 more phone calls to get me back in the system. I have ask to talk to a supervisor and have been told to leave my number. Five months later I have never received a phone call from a supervisor or anyone else for that matter. So, I have taken the matter to a Lawyer, and me and about 32 other people are sending out mass emails and forwards telling people to stand together and don't let the big businesses take our hard earned money out of our pockets any more and start holding them responsible for how they treat the people that have made them who that are, we have lined their pockets the least they can do is return to us respectable, fair and courtous relations. Conns will lose a lot more if every one stands together and stops buying from businesses like Conns that get rich off of people that look for deals and have to watch their pennies, most people that buy from Conns live from paycheck to paycheck we deserve better treatment. I now save my money and pay cash and only when the item is on sale. That interest that you will save buy not buying at Conns on Credit will hit them hard if you take your business elsewhere. Thanks, Brendadiane
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Anonymous on 2011-02-18:
Did you report them to the BBB? Give it a try.
PepperElf on 2011-02-18:
why the bbb? they have no legal power
however if you were charged twice you may want to talk to a lawyer or your banking institution about the issue
Anonymous on 2011-02-18:
no legal power, but I know a lot of people who get better results from reporting to them.
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Conn's service department is a CON
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BEAUMONT, TEXAS -- First issue is when I initially bought this window unit, I also bought another unit in addition for my master bedroom. I was told by the salesperson that this was an excellent product and that her brother had it and it would "freeze" his room. When I got it home, it would not cool off my room at all because there was not enough BTU for the room. I called the store on the next business day and they told me that I could not return it, so here I am stuck with a AC that I can't use due to the salesperson lack of knowledge on the unit and also informing me of false information. I still however had the unit in question in the living room and LOVED it.
Well on Wed, Aug. 6, 2008, after having it at only 3 months it stopped working. So we went to Conn's and bought a new one for the bedroom since it would not cool off the room, needless to say it would not cool the house off either if we opened the doors. So we got a new unit from Conn's on 08/06/08, came home and put it in and was too late to bring the broke living room one in. So my husband took the day off from work so he could bring it in to the service dept. He was told to wait in the lobby because they had nothing in the back and they would be able to look at it right then. He waited for about 20 min. before someone came out and asked if he had been waited on. He told them that it was back there and they told him to wait some more time that it would be looked out. After waiting another 20 min. approximately, they came back out and told him that it would be another 15-30 min and for him to come back. Well he told them that he would have to come back home since we don't live in that city and he had nowhere to go. They told him that they would call him and let him know what they found. I waited on Friday and Saturday for a phone call and nothing ever came.
Well on Saturday I called the "service dept" and found out that they closed at 5pm and it was 5:22pm. I called corporate to complain and figure out why no one called to let me know what was going on. Well I spoke to a Customer Service Representative and he let me know what the manager's name over the local service dept. and told me that he could not really do anything that I would have to call on Monday. He also told me that they could have "loaned me out an AC." I was so excited over the news that I could possibly have an AC unit until I would get mine fixed. I waited until Monday at about 1:30pm and tried calling the Service Dept. again thinking it would have been enough time for lunch. I called the automated answering service and waited 8 min. and hung up and called again and waited 10 min. I called the College St. store and asked if the Service Dept. had another number that I could call, because I do not live in the same city so I could not just drop in. He let me know what they were at "lunch" and I told him about the "loaning out an AC" and he told me that they stopped doing this YEARS AGO and that the Customer Service Representative just told me something so he could get off the phone. So that right there really upset me. I waited a few more min. because the person at the store told me to wait because they were at "lunch."
I finally called again and waited for someone to pick up the phone with no avail. I finally called back to the store and they told me that I had to WAIT on the phone until someone answer. He gave me an extension number of #81, even though they automated answering service says 4 digits, no 2 digits like he told me. He told me to get comfortable and don't hang up that it would take a while before they answer. I called again and waited 16 min. before I hung up.
I then called corporate again and got this wonderful person on the phone who told me that she would get an Expedited Form on it and make it a priority. I told her that I was going to run to the Service Dept. since they were not answering the phone to see what kind of progress they were doing. I walked into the Service Dept. and they looked up the service slip. He told me that there was no "update" on the status of work. I asked him why they told my husband originally on 08/07/08 that they would call him. He told me that he didn't know why because they don't tell people that. He then told me that they don't tell people to wait while they look at it because it takes up to 14 days to EVEN LOOK AT IT, NOT TO GET IT FIXED. I told him that I would like a timeline and he said that according to when I brought it in that it would be 14 days to look at it. He said that it could be while before it got fixed. He then went on to tell me that he could not "prioritized" my service to put it in front of others, that it would not be fair. I then told him that I was not saying that I was anyone special that I just wanted some answers and wanted to know if I needed to go ahead and buy a new one while it was getting fixed. He would never look me in the eyes and never would give me a straight answer.
I asked him to get the manager. He told me that he would be with me in a minute. The manager came out to the lobby looking at who might have wanted to talk to him. I told him that it was me that wanted to speak with him. I told him that my first issue was with them not answering the phones. He then told me that the calls go to a Call Center at corporate and they don't get any calls. I asked if they had a direct number and he told me NO! Then I asked why my husband had to unnecessarily wait on 08/07/08 and he said he had no idea why they told me that because they don't do that. Then he told me that there was nothing that could be done that it would get looked at in the order that the services were brought in. Which is totally understandable. I just want some answers. I told him that I was no happy with the treatment that I have had and that it would be the last time I spent any money at Conn's. I told him that I had contacted Corporate on them and that there was an Expedited Form being put on it to get fixed, so I guess they had never seen that yet because he had no idea what I was talking about.
He then told me that I had his word that he would get someone to look at it this Wed or Thur, 08/13/08 or 08/14/08. I once again asked if I had his word on that because I didn't want to have to raise HELL. I just want my AC fixed. By this time, the woman behind me proceeded to tell me that it has taken 3 months to get her weed eater to get fixed that they had just called her and she was there to get it. I asked him if this is the normal procedure about how long things get fixed. Then there was others in thereby this time and I asked them if this had happened to them. I had one guy tell me it took 4 months before he got his laptop computer back. Another guy told me that he has brought his AC unit back 4 TIMES. He also told me that each time he has been in there that there was always someone else complaining about their service. Another woman told me that it took 3 months for her camera to come back. I then asked him again if this was normal. He said that with the weed eater that the Lawn and Garden is a different dept. than the Appliances. He told me that when they had their stuff in there that they had been extra backed up and it was rare for it to be like that. I then asked if it was going to be 3 months before I got my AC back. He told me again that someone would look at it on either Wed or Thur of this week. I then told everyone in the lobby that everyone needs to write to the local paper and express our feelings at Conn's Service Dept and Conn's itself.
I didn't want to start trouble I just wanted answers. I told him that if you say something, then you should act upon it. If someone at the Service Dept. told my husband that they would call him back, then call him back and let him know that it is still getting looked at. And when someone brings something in to get fixed, then their policy should be that they tell the person that it would be up to at least 14 days to get around to it. I told him that after this was paid off I would NOT buy anything from Conn's again, thinking this could happen again. I have had the worse time with Conn's service, Customer Service on the phone and in the store with regards to the Salesperson telling me false information. I am very upset and will make sure others know of my problems with them. I have now bought a total of 3 window units in 3 months, 1 of which should not have been purchased at all.
I have now written to the BBB since they are a member. I also sent a letter via email to "customer service." I also told them if I didn't receive feedback on this matter that I would be taking my story to all local papers. I know it might not do anything, but it would at least show people what kind of crooks that Conn's are.
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HOUSTON, TEXAS -- I am a customer of Conn's and have been for over 10 years. I have bought every major appliance I own plus smaller items from Conn's. When I need anything electrical, I go to Conn's before anywhere else.
I am extremely shocked and appalled with the way Conn's has been treating me. After YEARS of never missing one payment on my Conn's accounts, I have begun receiving numerous phone calls from an automated system from Conn's reminding me to make my payment. This wouldn't be so bad if it was once, but is numerous phone calls for several days on every phone number which belongs to me, even if I have already made the payment!
When these phone calls started in August, I called their customer service department to ask why I was suddenly receiving these calls. The representative gave me a stock answer that it was just a simple system set up to remind the customers about payments. He agreed with me when I pointed out my excellent payment history with Conn's and he told me that he'd get the system to stop calling me.
Imagine my surprise when just TWO days after Hurricane Ike badly affected my area, Conn's automated system called every phone I own 5-7 times each day again. Did they honestly believe that in the middle of recovering from a hurricane my family needed the added burden of dealing with these relentless phone calls?? Again, a one time reminder would have been sufficient, IF they felt the need that you had to it all, which I still cannot comprehend. How about after a natural disaster, they just turn the system off for a few days?
This morning I took the time out of everything else I had to contend with to actually make the payment to my Conn's account (via the telephone so it would be immediate) just so that Conn's would stop tying up my phones with these relentless reminders. Imagine my disgust, when Conn's called three more times to remind me that my payment is due.
I have just called the customer service number again after the THIRD time they have called today, only to be told by their representative that "that's just the way the system is set up..." I asked the representative to please only deal with those customers who are delinquent with payments and leave me alone, or suggesting to call just ONE time if they really felt the need to call all loyal customers. I told him that I had actually MADE the payment this morning and could he please get the calls to stop?
He gave me a verbal shrug and just kept repeating that "that's the way it's set up."---I asked him who could fix it and who I could talk to. He then gave me the number of a "corporate office"---713-676-1153---guess what? It's not a working number. Can I now call and harass Conn's several times a day to "remind" them to give customers working numbers? You'd think a company who could come up with a system who could "speak" my name every time it called, could at least have a working phone number for a corporate office or have a representative who could give me the corrct number. I didn't dare call him back again to actually get the correct number and waste more of my precious time.
I am going to find every public forum I can to let the public know of the insensitive and shameless methods Conn's uses of "getting" money, especially during this trying time. It's bad enough when families are not recovering from life changing disasters, but to have this happen only two days after my family has suffered losses, is trying to reach family members, and is trying to get life back to normal is absolutely unforgivable.
I also feel that the system should be "set up" in a much more accommodating manner. It should not call customers who are not delinquent or late with payments and it should not call so many times, for so many days, on so many phone numbers. For heaven's sake, we have NEEDED our phone lines the last three days for more dire purposes. I am sorry I ever did business with them and I am even more sorry that I was such a good customer who gave them all my business and who made my payments on time each month, as I've been given no accommodations for that whatsoever. I've only been harassed.
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Slimjim on 2008-09-18:
Simply make sure your payments are on time as agreed and the system won't call you. It sounds like I'm simplifying it because it is simple. Loyal means jack if you are missing due dates. Sure, maybe their system is aggressive in your case with your probably good payment history, but it is an automated system designed to motivate late payers across the board. I honestly don't see how you can justify spreading the news on the net about them calling you because you missed a payment. That';s what creditors do when they are not paid.
cherpep on 2008-09-18:
The poster states that they have never missed a payment. If they are receiving these phone calls after paying timely on a regular basis - it's pure harassment. However, I have never heard of phone calls being made to regular-paying customers just to remind them that their payment is almost due. If this is the case, I would quickly pay off the account, perhaps with a low-interest card for life, and call it a day.
BCM on 2008-09-18:
I specifically said that I have never missed a payment nor has a payment ever been late. And they specifically told me that they are starting to call everyone---not just those with late or missing payments. So the system WILL call me regardless. I completely understand if I ignore my payment schedule. That's the point--I don't. Thanks cherpep for your advice.
DebtorBasher on 2008-09-18:
Contact your State Attorney General's office. If they are calling all of your phones 5-7 times a day it is clear harassment. Especially when you are paid on time with them AND you advised them to stop calling. Keep the recordings, times and dates of all the calls and report them. When I worked at Chase, we were instructed to make "Courtesy" calls to mortgage customers a few days before their payment was due to 'remind' them of their due dates. This was usually done towards the end of the month when Chase was concerned they were not going to reach quota for the month. Their reasoning was, If we call them, and they plan on paying us anyway, the will most likely make the payment while we are on the phone with them instead of waiting until the last day. Many of them did just make the payment over the phone to get us off their backs, others would say we will get it the same time we get it every month as agreed. So, I think in your case, they know you pay every month, so they are going to contact you, hoping you will make that payment sooner so they can reach their monthly quota. Especially if your due date is within the last week of the month.
Slimjim on 2008-09-18:
My apologies BCM. I did scan it carefully and I see you never did say you missed one. I figured this was a reminder of a past due date, but you are saying it is a reminder call of an up and coming date!? I must agree with you then. A system like that should be reserved for email only and is a ridiculous policy to have a dialer broadcasting unwanted payment reminders. I think I would call them one more time and tell them you will file a formal complaint if the reminders continue. After that, follow basher's advice.
Anonymous on 2008-09-18:
Thanks for the info, as to 'why' this is a practice. AmEx was doing this to me three years ago...calling at least once a day two weeks before the payment was due to 'remind' me with 'courtesy calls'. Like the OP, reasoning with them accomplished nothing.
DebtorBasher on 2008-09-18:
Even when I was doing Business to Business collections. We had to make those courtesy calls if we were behind our quota for the month. We would call the high balance accounts (Even if it wasn't due yet) and we would have to leave messages such as, "I'm calling to verify that you received your invoice and confirm all the billing information is correct. If there are any errors on the invoice please contact me and I will be sure any errors are corrected to prevent any delay in payment". Or if we actually got them on the phone we'd tell them the same thing and when they said they got the invoice and it was correct, we would ask for the "Expected payment date" and if it was too close to the end of the month where it may not be received until the beginning of the next month (If they were mailing it out the last week of the month or later) I would suggest overnight payments or automatic deposits...and our company would pay the fee for it. Whether it is Business or personal accounts, it all comes down to getting as much as they can before the end of the current month.
BCM on 2008-09-18:
Wow! Thanks so much for the useful information. I didn't know that this was a standard practice among some companies. And what is weird about this is Conn's seems to have just been doing this since August. I would not mind a one time call, like I said, or a "courtesy" reminder call, but the influx of these calls is just absolutely ridiculous. I think I will contact my State Attorney General's office. Thanks again, everyone!
DebtorBasher on 2008-09-18:
If it just started in August...there's a good chance they are approaching the end of their Fiscal Year and wants to get as much money in as possible.
DebtorBasher on 2008-09-18:
Uh Slimbo...that's Basher with a Capital "B"!
LuccyLuu on 2009-02-27:
According to the Fair Debt Collections Practices act, debt collectors may not call you before 8am and after 8pm. if you want them to stop calling you, you need to send the a certified letter telling them to stop. They are also not allowed to call you while you are at work. Remember these collectors do not care about you at all and you do not have to answere any questions. You owe the collectors nothing! You do not have to be nice if they are not nice!
DebtorBasher on 2009-02-27:
Luccy...debt collectors can call you from 8am until 9pm in the debtor's time zone. Depending on what State they live in they CAN call at work, until they are notified not to.
jose arredondo jr on 2014-06-28:
I purchased a microwave and air conditioner on March 9th 2014, I made down payment $92.00. Total purchase including Insurance I never requested or was made aware until I researched my contract at home the sales never told me they were adding $81.00 insurance, so my total purchase $715.87. When I got home I did the math, and total was wrong thee A/C price is $247.00 thee microwave $319.00 Taxs $43.40 total $619.98 plus down payment $92.00, Now on april 1st 2014 I made payment $60.00 , on May 2 2014, I made another payment $94.00, on june 2nd.2014 I made another payment $100.00. on june 9th 2014 I began getting automated calls at least every 6 to 7 minutes, when I called them they told me I had not made any payments and I needed to make a $354,00 payment I told them I had my receipts of payments that person told me I needed to fax proof of payments which I did on june 11 thee calls started again, talked to customer service they assured me this was mistake on there part the calls stopped for 3 days on June 19th 2014 once again the calls began But this time I was told my account has been turned over to collections for none payments which I told I already sent FAXED receipts of payments and bank statements PROVING payments have beenmade was told to wait 72 hours for account update, then the call continued from june 16th to present june 27 2014 telling me I owe them $1579 00 because of none payment so drove to the store sat there with salesman for 3 hours took all my receipts bank statements PROVING I never ever missed any payments I spoke with several l Managers from conns they all had different outcomes some said I only made 1 payment some said I never made down payment some said I Have never made anypayments I have spent hours days with conns customer service everytime they say ittakes 72 hours to correct thee problem I got 4 letters this week from conns telling me my account is in default and has been reported to credit bureaus and that I now owe them $2100.00 These people continue to call my phone every 6 to 7 minutes everyday. I have got to thee conns store several times this month of june 2014 taken my receipts even mailed Faxed my PROOf of payment yet this folks at Conns REFUSE to properly update credit my Payments and our Att Gen refuses to help all they did was end me a worthless consumer compliant form for me to fill out telling me there is NOTHING they can do expect take my complaint. WARNING do Not waste your time calling thee conns customer service or faxing proof of payments don't waste you time calling Conns they always say it take 72 hours to update your account, NOTHINg Get done and thee conns customer service idiots have poor 3rd grade communication Skills I mean VERY POOR uneducated communication skills. What can I do to Resolve this problem or whom can I contact to get Satisfactory RESULTS and have this resolved today. contact me at firstname.lastname@example.com
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Never Buy From Conn's. Ever!
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BEAUMONT, TEXAS -- I have been witness to two horrific accounts of rude customer service, overcharged billing, unwillingness to cooperate with existing warranties, and just overall poor business ethics.
My first encounter occurred when I was working at a Lamar State College Port Arthur's theatre department's office. We had ordered two huge flat screen plasma TV's and mounts for our stage, and they were to be delivered the next day. They promised they would charge us 899 each for the TV's and 200 each for the mounts. It didn't arrive the next day, it arrived four days after the order. We needed the TV's for a show that was opening soon, and that four days stressed us.
When we unpacked the TV's, one was broken. It would not turn on. So we called and they said they would be out the next day to bring a new one and replace it. They arrived a week later. We got it up just in time. (Note: each time we called, we never got speedy, friendly service; we were always put through the wringer.) Then our financial office called us a month later. CONN'S charged us $999 each for the TV's, not $899.
We called everyday for three days straight to get them to fix it. We didn't understand, we wanted to pay them, but no one would help us. We got the ringer, no one knew who could fix the problem. We left messages with everyone. The last day, we were transferred around for an hour and a half. No one was in to help us, everyone had left, or was still at lunch, or on vacation- (it was 2:30 on a Wednesday). We finally got through to someone who said it wasn't her job to help us, but she would because she felt sorry for us. We made it clear that our department would never buy from them again.
My parents had purchased a washing machine about a year and a half ago, and a warranty. So when it stopped spinning, we called them to come fix it. A few days later they came to fix it. They said it couldn't be fixed, and we could get it replaced. The next week (and lots of dirty laundry and trips to the laundromat later), they called and told us to come in tomorrow to find a replacement. They were treated to a money hungry, commission seeking, totally disrespectful sales person, who refused/ignored my parents request to see a copy of the original warranty and receipt. The girl told them at one time that the machine was less than a year old, and another that it was a year and a half. She protested when my mother implied that they would haul off the old machine, saying, "why would Conn's want a broken machine." Without giving them a copy of the original receipt, she stated that my parents paid $300 to for the old machine. My parents paid over $500. She tried to blow it off by saying that it was like a car, "it depreciated in value over time, so that's why it was less." Then later she said that was what they paid, it didn't depreciate. Without an original receipt or warranty, how were they to know if that was true? This situation just happened today, and we have still not completely resolved it. We will be reporting them to the Better Business Bureau, and it has become my job to post this all over the internet. They are an awful company, who don't care about quality or service. The way I see it, it's my duty to complain to everyone.
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hugs and rainbows on 2007-11-15:
Correction: With my parent's washing machine, they came out four times, never fixed it, all the repair people would say is, "We'll call you later." It was yesterday they finally got a call to come in and get a new one.
MRM on 2007-11-16:
The name of the business should have given you a clue of what they're all about as well as other complaints about this business.
Anonymous on 2007-11-16:
Is this Conns a "rent to own" place?
Nothing but complaints about these kooks
darth_salesman on 2008-04-06:
dude, for 999 you probably got the 42PC5D (42in LG Plasma) or the HPT4254 (42in Samsung Plasma) either way, Plasma sucks. you shouldn't have done that. I work for conns and I have never sold either of those tvs. I always step them up to the bigger LCD tvs. and that is not a lot of money that conns is making, and it is all about money.
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AUSTIN, TEXAS -- We have been struggling with Conn's for the last 2 weeks to have our top of the line KitchenAid appliances delivered and installed correctly. Here's a history of the nightmare we've been through with them:
12/2/05- Range delivered and installed. Would have been great, though I noticed a dent on the stainless steel front. Problem: They have none in stock to replace so they leave the dented range for us to use until one comes in. They only offered a $100 price concession for the dent on a $1600 range.
12/3/05- We arrived from out of town to a house full of gas. The gas company came out, turned off the gas and told us the range was not installed properly (they broke the fitting where the gas line connects to the stove). Fortunately our house didn't explode. Conn's came out the next morning to correct the problem by installing a new gas line, but said that's all they could do without replacing the range. It still leaks.
12/5/05- A new range comes in. We had also ordered a dishwasher that would be in stock this week, so we scheduled delivery to have the range traded out and a dishwasher installed on 12/9.
12/9/05- I took the day off work to expect delivery since they can't be more exact than a 3 hour time block. After not receiving a call making us aware of the delivery time, I call the warehouse. They inform me that the dishwasher hasn't come in yet, so they will not be delivering anything. I have wasted my day and my frustrations mount. I call the salesman to find out why we didn't get a call in advance. He was going to contact the "district manager" (who I am now convinced does not exist) and let us know what is going on, but our calls were not returned.
12/12/05- Salesman calls and says our range can be swapped out at our convenience, so we set it up for the following afternoon.
Salesman shows up in his beat-up pick-up truck with our $1600 range in the bed. He comes with no one to help him unload it, so he expects me to help him drag it into my house! Then he goes to disconnect the original dented range, but after pulling it out and trying to unhook the gas line, he tells us he's not authorized to touch gas lines. How did he expect to swap them out in the first place?? He leaves us with two stoves and calls the install guys to set up a time to come by the next day to install the new stove and take out the old one.
I call Conn's to speak with the manager to let them know the situation and they freak out and tell us that we can't have two stoves in our house since we only paid for one (even though we also paid a comparable amount for our dishwasher that still has not come in) and says she'll have to send him back out to pick up the new one they just dropped off. We told them we wouldn't be home.
12/14/05- The install guys call and even though they get my voicemail, they come by anyway at 9am (even though the salesman told them we would not be available until 4pm--luckily my husband was working from home and here when they came by). The install guys unwrapped the new range and noticed that it is not just dented, but the entire side is caved in. Hmmm...couldn't have been a result of unprofessional delivery, now could it?
Then they tell us that they can't take either of the stoves away because they were only asked to install the new one. They tell my husband they can come back in the afternoon after getting permission to take the range away, but they never do.
I call the salesman who returns my call an hour later. He tells me he can have the new stove and dishwasher installed on Friday...it's a fairly pleasant conversation and I say okay. I also let him know that if there is any kind of problem with the appliances, we will be returning both for a full refund.
Then it goes downhill...
He asks if he can come by tonight at 7pm to pick up the range. I tell him that it's not a convenient time since we have plans, so he suggests coming the next day telling me that they are adamant that we not have two ranges in our house (do you think we want both?). Then he asks if he can come by at 6am before we go to work and I tell him that I don't want to deal with this before my day even begins. He mumbles something about his manager calling us, says he understands what I'm saying, and hangs up on me.
Next time we're going to Sears.
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crewboy on 2005-12-15:
You are a lot more patient that I would have been! By this point I would have demanded that they cancel both the range and the dishwasher and refund all of your money. If they refuse, I would take them to small claims court since you have the documentation. Enough is enough already.
Anonymous on 2005-12-15:
I was in appliances as a manager for a while. It's difficult to hire, keep and schedule help to do the work for that wage. I'd suggest you call the company and let them know your problem. Call and call again. Some of us regulars have pull, and can maybe make a phone call.
KateM on 2005-12-15:
You could have sued their asses for the gas leak alone. I say give them one more chance to rectify the situation and let them know your lawyer is getting involved. After all their BS and the VERY dangerous gas leak they should be giving you the damn thing for free.
Oh and Pirate your advice is stupid. Keep calling? Yeah right, no wonder you work in a dead end job at an appliance store you have no sense.
spiderman2 on 2005-12-15:
I can't believe that after the gas leak thing they didn't bend over backwards to take care of you. Can you image the lawsuit if they had blown your house up. Remind them of this.
Slimjim on 2005-12-15:
Kate, like everyone else, cares less what you want pirate. She certainly has more right than you to post her opinion here, especially when it's so drop dead true.
fletcmo on 2006-03-05:
After receiving 4 defective refrigerators in less than a week from Conns Lakeline mall store and constant dissatisfaction from the managers, I called for the CEO, TOMMY FRANK.Supposed to get my money back but, still working on food spoilage.Never to return or recommend. Free advertising. Good luck. BBB,ATTORNEY GENERAL AND CHANNEL 7 ON YOUR SIDE ARE GOOD SORCES TOO.
LoveyOne on 2006-08-13:
I know this great attorney out of san antonio, Texas that can help if they are herassing you or destroying your property in any way. they also handle the debitors, collectors, and herassers from companies give them a call! the Law Offices of David Schafer. they can help with NO UPFRONT COST!!! 1.210.348.0500
darth_salesman on 2008-04-06:
yeah, but the salesman took time out of his day to get back to you, I work for this company. it can be a little hecktic sometimes.
jewely1781 on 2009-01-06:
I have the same problem! I paid an exorbitant sum for my washer and dryer. I also purchased the extended warranty. My dryer did not work for approximately the first month and a half! Any calls to the customer service line was useless! I even went as far as contacting the VP of Service-Farah, and the VP of Customer Service-Allen Sheppard-who basically wanted me off his phone as soon as possible. When Farah contacted service in Dallas-they even gave her issues. Now my machine is broken-again-even though they originally replaced major parts-motor and heating elements-multiple times-not to mention replacing the whole unit. I did NOT buy bad machines-my in-laws are from overseas-and they are some of the best selling-most requested machines over there! The problem here is the fact-and the latest service repairman admitted to it-they do NOT know much about these machines. Why sell them-with a warranty-if you don't have trained technicians to repair them? I have even offered to pay the manufacturer to come out and repair them-at my cost and have Conn's re-imburse me. The manufacturer can't because Conn's has to give them the approval to repair-and even after asking Conn's multiple times to give the manufacturer approval-they still haven't. Now-they were supposed to overnight a part last Friday-to be installed last Saturday. It is now Monday-and I haven't even received a call back. And when I call in-I get the run-around. And this is after waiting over a week for them to come out to even look at the machine. Do NOT let them fool you-the Service manager would have you believe that their repairmen don't work after 6pm-the service team has no problem working late when it serves their purpose-we once waited all day on a Saturday for a service guy that was supposed to be there before 12pm-he didn't show until approximately 8:30pm. This is not my only issues with this company. When they delivered-we paid for next day delivery-it didn't arrive. Also, we once waited over 3 1/2 hours for a salesperson to help us in store-cash in hand to buy a sofa and 37 inch TV. We stayed only because my husband and I-newly wedded had searched far and wide for a sofa and this was the only one we could agree on. This was of course-the day after we bought the washer and dryer-it hadnât delivered yet-other wise I would have rather sat on the floor than to give them any more of our money! I used to be a loyal customer-as was my entire family-we will never shop there again. We would rather pay more-and have good service!
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