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Modern Warfare 2 Won't Have Dedicated PC Servers, New Footage EmergesBy Chris Faylor, Oct 20, 2009 10:19am PDT Though Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 maker Infinity Ward recently told us that "PC [multiplayer] will be the same as it always was," the company has now revealed that the war-torn shooter will not make use of community-run dedicated servers.
"We've been building up this system on the backend called IW Net, to allow matchmaking for our PC users just like you have on the console," Infinity Ward community manager Robert 'fourzerotwo' Bowling explained on podcast BASH 123.
"You're completely reliant on IW Net and there's no dedicated servers or server list. You rely on IW Net for your matchmaking and finding games, but then you also have the private match, much like the other platforms, where you can go in and...customize the game rules, all via private match, and invite people to the server that way."
Bowling added: "The mentality is making it much more accessible to the PC community as a whole and making it where it's a lot less cost burden for our community members."
He also noted that the PC version will make use of some integrated Steam functionality, such as Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) technology, but offered few specifics beyond clarification that "our matchmaking is not through Steam."
While Bowling says Infinity Ward is trying "looking at ways we can improve the multiplayer game on PC and make it easier for everybody," the community is not happy.
"The silence that you hear is because we've got a community right now that is structured in such a way that relied on having dedicated servers," said one of the podcast hosts. Others expressed concern regarding latency, as games will now be hosted on home internet connections and machines instead, as well as the fate of mod support.
An online petition demanding dedicated servers popped up shortly thereafter, and currently has over 100,000 signatures. Bowling later told Appetite2Kill admin Peeter that "the response will not be ignored. I'll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions."
"Hardcore PC players lose very little to this change relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see," wrote Game Informer after speaking to Infinity Ward.
Citing a conversation with studio head Jason West, Game Informer explained:
He points toward the mounting feedback IW has received from PC fans of Modern Warfare who couldn't find a decent server to play on between all of the cheaters, the insular communities, and huge skill level disparities that the original game's community fractured into. "We thought maybe it would be cool if the fans could play the game," he laughs.
[...]Clans can set up private matches to do their training or what have you; all they lose is the ability to customize the game on a deeper level with mods and such. Infinity Ward sees the addition of solid matchmaking and community support like IW-run tournaments to the PC as a huge win, and not something that could be done under the old system.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 hits PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 10. Expect to hear more on the game and its integrated Steam functionality before then.
In related news, a new commercial for the game has emerged via retailer GameStop:
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By: TheMongbat x Show Full PostThis should be fun. Add to this the slow, creeping efforts of Comcast and other broadband providers to start charging penalties on "unlimited" internet access over a certain "limited" amount, and I see a recipe for good times.
It'll probably also be a gas to have someone who decides it's bedtime just shut his non-dedicated server (AKA his PC) down in the middle of a match. Additionally, I really can't wait to play on a server and suddenly see vicious lag, only to hear someone say "Oh, sorry guys. My virus software is running its scheduled sweep. Should be over in 20 minutes."
I approve this change!
WoW should not have dedicated servers either.Oct 21, 2009 6:30am PDTThis should be fun. Add to this the slow, creeping efforts of Comcast and other broadband providers to s... : TheMongbat
By: UMG x Show Full PostSooo... By no "server list", they mean no server browser... right? Aw sheeeiiitttt
Unlike most people here, I recognize that there is no sense in the stuck up "we're smart so user friendliness doesn't matter" mentality. I have been a PC gamer for 10 years and I own zero consoles. On the other hand, I think that there are a great many things that the PC could learn from the consoles for much better user experience. PC gamers have long believed the amount of routine headache they put up with is evidence that they are somehow more sophisticated than console gamers. Does anyone actually like to sit there and stare and an installation screen? With consoles, you can begin playing as soon as you put the disk in. This has been how it was from the beginning. Does anyone actually like spending hours on end searching for workarounds to crashes and error messages? Forums all across the internet are a testament to how hard getting a PC game to work can be on occasion. One time, Cod4 MP crashed on me with some obscure error message (dont we all love those) like "IM MP54_x.mp3.dll could not be found" ... Two hours later after trying dozens of solutions, I found that it wanted me to plug in my head phones. Don't we all wish that gaming on the PC was more about playing games and less about getting said games to work? This is something that consoles, beyond a doubt, do better than PCs.
In many ways, the patronizing attitude of many PC gamers towards console gamers is very misplaced. PCs aren't necessarily better than consoles just different. Notice how many PC gamers brag about their platform's superior hardware than get mad at the developers whenever a game comes out that's actually aimed at high end hardware?
That said, I would like to see a server browser. PCs are not necessarily better than consoles, but they are different. Matchmaking is well suited to consoles but it is not the best option for the PC. The mouse's precision and speed makes it easy to browse large lists of servers in a quick and efficient, manor, making server browsers superior (on the PC to) match making. Server browsers give you a high degree of freedom when it comes to choosing your server/game. The PC should have whatever features it's differences warrant, but have you people seen the Infinity Ward boards? The list of all the random, useless crap the PC gamers over there is just astonishing. It's like they think the entire world should drop what they're doing and attend to their every need. There are over 200 things that they want.
While, this is disappointing news, i feel as if it's forecasting a broader trend with the PC adopting the consoles strengths to become a better. There is no (non absurd) reason why PC gaming needs to be more comlpex than console gaming and/or chock full of headaches. And to be honest, now that I think about it, PC gamers are a bit too obsessed with "being different for the sake of it."
Competition? When did IW say that their new IW.net system won't let leagues play MW2?
Mods? How many people played mods for cod4. The game was great. Like many "inferior" console games, you didn't need any mods. The game was already fine. This whole "release a bad game and let the fans fix it" is a terrible idea.
Let's not also forget that mods played a role in enabling cheating. Consoles don't have modding and how much cheating do you see? None?Oct 20, 2009 6:56pm PDTSooo... By no "server list", they mean no server browser... right? Aw sheeeiiitttt Unlike most people ... : UMG
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They didn't say that they "won't let leagues play MW2", but there was this excerpt: However, say youâ : the archvile
If you get a chance I talk about the negatives that Consoles have brought into the gaming hobby in my fir... : wytefang
Are you on some delusional peace/love smoke? There is a format that exists in PC gaming, it is an "Open" ... : syn0r
Nothing IW is doing here will simplify your experience, you will still have to install your game, you wil... : Dark Hunter
By: STFUniversity x Show Full Posti'm glad they did this... i bought world at war for the PC a few weeks ago, and 90% of the servers have retarded rules. No jumping? No running? Jesus, you can't even walk while standing without getting banned. No grenades, no cover fire (considered blindfire), and there's a list of about 9 perks that aren't allowed on most servers. within a week i was banned from 20 servers for breaking these rules. if i knew beforehand that the dedicated servers completely watered down and ruined this game for multiplayer, i would have gotten a more dynamic game, like UNO.
i think matchmaking is one of the only things that consoles have on pc's. it's a much more social kind of gaming... i'm sure they'll allow you to add friends and invite them to your lobby, so you can play against other parties of the same size, making matches a little more rewarding. After a while, joining the team with dedicated server regulars and smashing an endless stream of casual, uncoordinated players gets a little old.Oct 23, 2009 8:00am PDTi'm glad they did this... i bought world at war for the PC a few weeks ago, and 90% of the servers have r... : STFUniversity
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Your arguments seem to come from a very casualistic view point of FPS game play. And I agree, matchmakin... : Miller_TYM
You are FULL of shit - this is simply a LIE. There are literally THOUSANDS of WaW servers online and I... : firstname.lastname@example.com
By: TreyTable x Show Full PostThis is wonderful. I bet this makes it less expensive for Activison to make the three versions of the same game. Besides, PC gaming is pretty much dead anyway, so why give away things to the smallest market share? I hope in the future that all PC games are $60 for a retail copy. Maybe they could have dedicated servers for people who pay an annual fee. That sounds like a great idea.Oct 26, 2009 1:33pm PDTThis is wonderful. I bet this makes it less expensive for Activison to make the three versions of the sam... : TreyTable
By: the archvile x Show Full Post4 days after the BASH 123 podcast, 1 day after the fourzerotwo.com article (http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745).
Fourzerotwo.com article comments: 118 pages.
Shacknews.com article: 642 comments
Petitiononline.com petition: 131,526 signatures.
The uprising itself is generating headlines: http://news.google.com/news/story?cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&ncl=dds1D0nI2kRHWuMk8LbGcQeFECYBMOct 21, 2009 8:35pm PDT4 days after the BASH 123 podcast, 1 day after the fourzerotwo.com article (http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p... : the archvile
By: tellurye x Show Full PostLet me explain why I like the Dedicated servers better:
1. Control - The reason why I prefer dedicated consoles is ease of control. Play L4D on valves servers and you will see huge lag, and a bunch of foul-mouthed 13 yrd olds who join your server (even though you select 'Friends only' - yes I double checked, obviously there is a bug in the code) without your permission and lag the whole time, flaiming, screaming N word through your speakers.
2. Distance - If your friends are local, why not use a dedicated server. Why all of you log into a server in another state, or another country, and have a crappy time.
3. Punted - We have no idea of the IT guy maintained that server or if it will crash every 3 seconds. A dedicated server, you know the condition of your machine, and it runs smoother.
Bottom line, when I run on the developers servers, I have nothing but problems. And I dont know a single PC player on my friends list that prefers developer's servers. But Im sure they are out there.Oct 22, 2009 6:21am PDTLet me explain why I like the Dedicated servers better: 1. Control - The reason why I prefer dedicate... : tellurye
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Are you high? Because you are not making the slightest fuckin sense, kido. : firstname.lastname@example.com
Stop swearing, stop insulting the masculinity of people who are clearly more mature than you and for god'... : Mr. Goodwrench
And just who TF are you? The Moral Police? Get lost, loser. : firstname.lastname@example.com
By: salceson x Show Full PostThat's the way you advertise things! Do something people hate you for and triple the sales.
I just wonder why PC community gets more and more titles screwed because of "consoleization"
If I would like to have console experience I would own a console. Well as I don't own one somebody thought I must be mad and made the choice for me. It's really sad but the main reason is money, this is making people forget who they are doing games for and why they are doing them. They won't get a penny from me for this one. Greedy bastards!Oct 21, 2009 9:42pm PDTThat's the way you advertise things! Do something people hate you for and triple the sales. I just wonde... : salceson
By: 1Mystic-G x Show Full PostNo dedicated servers
No server list
No mods or custom maps
No competitive gaming
Charging for DLC
Raised price
Seriously, what about this game is worth raising the price? If anything the game should be worth $40 retail or less as they're excluding everything that any respectable game includes. Their response to matchmaking is that people can't find a server to play on for various reasons... seriously? There were tens of thousands of servers for CoD4 two weeks after release.Oct 20, 2009 2:22pm PDTNo dedicated servers No server list Matchmaking No mods or custom maps No competitive gaming Chargin... : 1Mystic-G
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PC DESERVES higher standards. The Xbox doesn't. : Nighthawk0110
By: maulla x Show Full PostThis system is FINE.
You have private servers that you can create on the fly. An intricate party/matchmaking system, on a more secure service preventing cheating.
PC gamers need to stop complaining.Oct 20, 2009 10:28am PDTThis system is FINE. You have private servers that you can create on the fly. An intricate party/match... : maulla
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Way to not understand anything thats being lost here. It's clear you don't know what you're talking ab... : mexpak
Not that I agree with Maulla (I'm torn on this one) BUT I have to laugh at all the assumptions concerning... : wytefang
Nobody forced you to play 'shitty made community' maps in COD4 or WaW either, there are TONS of servers t... : vHazardous
Oh, and FYI - $10 says IW will allow custom matches to be launched from their IW.NET service, allowing pe : maulla
I'm sure you got a boner when host migration was unveiled. Guess what? PC gamers have never had to deal ... : mexpak
the positives are listed in this very article, they're absolutely legitimate, and based on actual user fe... : derelict515
I am still waiting for a legitimate complaint that is not addressed by a feature of matchmaking or is com... : maulla
fine? good luck playing 16v16 or more on a listen server and matchmaking on PC? ..what a joke : the.dyze
cod is not a 16v16 game. : maulla
16v16 does happen alot. But anywhere between 8v8 to 10v10 seems to be pretty normal on popular servers. : vHazardous
And on this service, it'll probably top out at 8v8, and even then, it'll be lag-tastic. : carbontree
CoD4 certainly was. : Vincent Grayson
there might be 2 or 3 maps large enough to house a game of that size in cod4. people who play on those se... : maulla
says the console gamer. lulz. : registry_error
"on a more secure service preventing cheating. " LOL you really think so? About the only thing bein... : vHazardous
Private servers don't bring to me what dedicated servers did (as far as I know). I understand that a ... : kinnoch
The main problems are host advantage and lag. Also, when IWnet is down, you cannot play. I honestly d... : bgtpcg1
Constant interruption when the host player leaves due to host migration? You're paying more (I was goi... : mexpak
Because the horrible lag when IWnet inevitebly matches me with people from faraway places with shitty con... : bgtpcg1
I would never trade some private match created on IWnet's servers for community run and managed dedicated... : Dr_Cube
You totally fail at understaning how dedicated servers work versus shared hosted aliases. : poopster2
By: LaneGresham x Show Full PostThe Cons:
* 5min Matchs! "The match making gets rid of the idea that I can stay on a server for a few hours. With the new system in place Ill have to 1: find a match, 2: wait for it to fill, 3: wait for everyone to vote on a map, 4: wait for everyone to ready up, 5: wait for the 30 seconds before the match starts. Is it me, or is that WAY to much effort and time to play for a 5min match!"
* Ping! "Get ready for a world of hurt when they replace the ping Integer with red/yellow/green bar, green meaning you'll get about 150ping at most. I wouldnt be surprised at all if they removed it all together and just said you where getting a good connection like in Gears of War 2, and yes I love console games, but heaven help us if they think that the matchmaking is smoother gameplay! With this system, the host will always have an advantage. Look at every other game that uses the matchmaking! L4D, Far Cry 2, Operation Flashpoint 2, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, GTA IV, etc... all of these game are impossible to get a good connection with their p2p connection, you will never get around 40ping, which in my opinion, is SMOOTH gameplay!"
* No dedicated server! "Dont tell me that a private match is the same thing! Lets say I treat it like one, Im not about to start a private match and wait for 20 of my friends to get online every time I want to play a custom Hardcore match! And Im pretty sure I wont be able to browse private matches hence the word PRIVATE, not to mention Im pretty sure you wont be about to rank on a private match."
* Charged Map Packs! "For us PC gamers we had to wait a month or two after the release of the map pack on the xbox 360. And Infinity awards response was "were working around technical issues…" In other words they were trying to find a way to charge pc gamers. Finally when the map packs came out for PC the only reason they did was because of support of other companies for their advertising, such as you see in the cornnor of the screen when you load up a map from the map pack on PC. Well thanks to the new system they found a way to charge us, which is ridiculous considering pc gamers have to pay extra up front for a beta of a system that hasnt been tested yet. And coming from a 5 year software engineer, this is NOT a way to test a new system thats going to hold millions of clients over p2p connections!
-LaneMaxOct 22, 2009 5:38pm PDTThe Cons: * 5min Matchs! "The match making gets rid of the idea that I can stay on a server for a f... : LaneGresham
By: mike44w x Show Full PostThis is why they made the pricetag of this game soo high $60 ... soo they can still gave high amounts of money even without the pc community
i have signed and im not buying this game until they sort it out!Oct 22, 2009 1:44pm PDTThis is why they made the pricetag of this game soo high $60 ... soo they can still gave high amounts o... : mike44w
By: Immunity x Show Full Post"Bowling added: "The mentality is making it much more accessible to the PC community" ".
PC users don't need stuff made "more accessible". We have brains and are able to reason and figure things out for ourselves - unlike our console brethren. Those that can't move on to the consoles where everything is done for them.
Enjoy the $60 pricetag IW - I won't be taking part. Perhaps once you've figured out just how badly you've mistreated your most loyal community (and the one which is responsible for you being around at ALL), and just how much in sales that extra slap in the face $10 fee actually COST you, you'll wise up for #6.
Anybody who buys this title is shooting themselves and others in the foot in the long run.
Take a critical look at this situation, take a stand, and speak with your wallet!Oct 20, 2009 12:16pm PDT"Bowling added: "The mentality is making it much more accessible to the PC community" ". PC users don'... : Immunity
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Counterpoint: It's not that big a deal and the community will adjust to the changes just like when dedic... : r_picmip 5
^^^ Bingbingbing : tohm82
Go play L4D and imagine that the only servers were valves and the player count was higher. Its fucking at... : Beady
Heh, I never got L4D, but I read a Slashdot commenter's account of the experience. That makes it seem li... : the archvile
Dedicated servers were introduced because: - Peer-to-peer IPX network games like Doom and Rise of the ... : the archvile
Counterpoint: Don't fix what isn't broke. : comiekazie
Nice troll. I play PC and console games. Does that mean on occasion I can figure things out? : Fred Garvin
I didn't see that remark as much of a trollish attempt as much as someone being just really ticked at the... : wytefang
Fred, I'd honestly like your opinion on the latter portion of my post above. I know you're a strong cons... : wytefang
You know, if you like the PC and you don't mind tweaking or grabbing updated drivers or manually searchin... : Fred Garvin
Fact, Garvin: Most console gamers want ease of use; be it because they're lazy, not in the mood for deali... : Dr_Cube
Hahaha, okay whatever you say. Like it's a bad thing to want to spend more time playing and less time fuc... : Fred Garvin
Fred, I agree with Dr Cube along the lines that the overall experience is being gimped more than anything... : silverback1138
I agree Silverback1138 - people always throw out the hyperbolic remarks about PC gaming like it's hours a... : wytefang
Gimped? I had months of fun with other Shackers playing CoD4 on Live. The ease of use more than made up f... : Fred Garvin
I had CoD4 on both XBL and PC because of friends that I have that pay on both platforms. The PC version'... : silverback1138
To each their own, I disagree. : Fred Garvin
Then you can play the console version because that sounds like the version that you want. The rest of us... : silverback1138
Well in all fairness, appealing to the whole "well the majority did this" argument isn't the most convinc... : wytefang
I knew you'd fuckin cherry pick and key off the "lazy" statement so you could bulk up your response but t... : Dr_Cube
So your superiority complex explains why PC gamers should be treated to things like half an hour install ... : UMG
That is in no way comparable to "having" to choose a MP server from a simple server browser. Having to in... : Pulveri
No, but my point was that the PC isn't the greatest gaming platform imaginable, It's got areas in which ... : UMG
"How can anyone believe that sitting there and staring at a progress bar for half an hour is "practical"?... : MechBFP
I don't understand why people gripe about install times. Yeah, it's time consuming to do, but it happens... : gokwyjibo
Uhm, have you ever seen what happens when you start up a console with a game? You're up and running in a... : UMG
Have you ever seen what happens when I click on the icon on my desktop? Guess what, a game starts. What a... : salceson
Those "few seconds" will be considerably shorter if the game is loading off a hard drive. : gokwyjibo
By: haysoos x Show Full PostHave any of you whiney fucking babies realized that you can just keep playing the original? Yeah, it's a crazy thought to a 12 year old mangina, but being a grown ass man, I realize that I don't have to buy the new version. WOW, right? The server style doesn't matter because you can just not play it.
Or did you dumbasses think that you would die if you didn't buy the new one? Shit kids, when CS: source came out, I didn't like it at all, and just went back to playing CS 1.6. I didn't get on any internet message board and make lists, I didn't whine and make a petition to valve, I didn't even shed a tear.
This all might be strange concepts to you guys, but it's pretty straight forward.
Don't. Buy. It.
Is that really so hard? What, are they taking dedicated servers away from CoD4? No? THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS THE ISSUE? You don't have to like the new one, and they don't have to make it your way. This is not burger king, and you aren't intitled to SHIT, you spoiled little assholes. I hope you all buy it and HATE it and wish you could have your money back but you can't. Then I'll be sitting on my couch, playing CoD4, enjoying the shit out of it on Xbox live, no giving two shits about the new version or it's server setup or any of you whiney little babies.
I would prefer it if you stopped playing games and stopped representing gamers though. If you could leave the US, or just get off my planet, that would be great, because arrogant little pansies like you irk me more than ANY part of ANY video game. I would play nothing but Daikatana for the rest of my life if it caused a black plague to wipe you people out.Oct 22, 2009 9:37am PDTHave any of you whiney fucking babies realized that you can just keep playing the original? Yeah, it's a... : haysoos
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Someone missed the point. : Jimbo Ro
Someone missed their medication. : shizzam8
I agree with the 'ass' part, but a grown man? ORLY? : Mr. Goodwrench
By: MechBFP x Show Full PostI had this game on my list of "Games to follow". I was only planning on getting it because I haven't played COD4 before and figured I may as well get this instead since it will probably be better. Well obviously not getting it now and crossed it off my list. What morons.Oct 20, 2009 9:21pm PDTI had this game on my list of "Games to follow". I was only planning on getting it because I haven't play... : MechBFP
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I only started playing CoD4 (singleplayer, played a friend's copy) a few weeks ago, and I now want to pla... : code-e255
By: Fred Garvin x Show Full PostHonestly, this game will sell like crazy as it is. No amount of protest is going to change their minds. It's pretty obvious they knew they were making a radical move and they expected blow back. Mount all the protests you want, but as long as the game is making monstrous bank they have no reason to change. It's a business and sometimes you have to piss off some of your customers to make a choice you think will be better overall. Would be nice to make everyone happy, but that's never going to happen. In this age of entitlement you could make the perfect game and give it away and someone would still bitch.Oct 20, 2009 3:12pm PDTHonestly, this game will sell like crazy as it is. No amount of protest is going to change their minds. I... : Fred Garvin
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I don't expect Activison to do anything about it, because they want to save face, and they are a bunch of... : bgtpcg1
Kottick is an asshole, but IW is run by decent guys and I doubt this was done 100% by Activision. : Fred Garvin
Totally agree with ya, BGTPCG1...except that IW are pretty cool and probably had their hand forced by the... : wytefang
I prefer to call them Lackofvision. : silverback1138
I think allowing both would probably be the closest thing to making everyone happy (and perhaps they will... : Vorlonesque
You're missing the point. If IW/Activision decided to release MW2 with a normal server browser, dedicated... : Link.
By: mystifier x Show Full PostI bet you anything that the producers are as pissed as we are about the whole thing and marketing execs want more control ($$$). I guess they underestimated PC crowd huh?
And piracy? Gimme a fucking break..Oct 20, 2009 8:20pm PDTI bet you anything that the producers are as pissed as we are about the whole thing and marketing execs w... : mystifier
By: thewindcriesmary x Show Full PostThis basically kills the game here in Australia. Playing console games online is already a joke and now we are getting the same piece of shit experience with pc games? Ever try matchmaking with someone on the other side of the planet? or trying to host games with our limited bandwidth? its complete and utter fail.
We have a very unique online experience here in aus, as all best dedicated servers are hosted by local ISPs and are run to a very, very high standard for all the popular games. How hard is it to join a freakin dedicated server? click multiplayer, sort by players ingame, then click join? and its especially easy here as you just see the name of a familiair ISP and click join (bigpong, internode, primus etc).
It really shits me, but i guess the more popular a sub culture becomes (gaming) the shittier, more diluted it becomes and the companies just start appealing to the feable mass market which isnt really appealing to anything, its just chucking a bunch of shit out the window and hoping someone pays for the privelidge of having it fall flat on your face.Oct 21, 2009 9:29am PDTThis basically kills the game here in Australia. Playing console games online is already a joke and now w... : thewindcriesmary
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Am I missing something? I understand this will affect your play with friends outside of the country, but... : r_picmip 5
By: scener x Show Full Postcrosspost from the chatty thread, but i screwed up and i was suposed to post here instead.. so here it goes:
US PC Game Software Sales
1998 - $1.8 billion
1999 - $1.9 billion
2000 - $1.78 billion (84.9 million units)
2001 - $1.75 billion (83.6 million units)
2002 - $1.4 billion (61.5 million units)
2003 - $1.2 billion (52.8 million units)
2004 - $1.1 billion (47 million units)
2005 - $953 million (38 million units)
2006 - $970 million
do you guys understand why now?
(source:http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=15831)Oct 21, 2009 8:46am PDTcrosspost from the chatty thread, but i screwed up and i was suposed to post here instead.. so here it go... : scener
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console numbers: 1998 - $3.7 billion 1999 - $4.2 billion 2000 - $4.1 billion (130.6 million units) ... : scener
Do these numbers include digital distribution such as Steam and revenue from pay to play games like World... : Pulveri
By: mobab x Show Full Posthttp://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html
I wonder if they ever polled for the number of CoD4 servers.
If MW2 ever takes off, they're going to need a ton of servers....Oct 20, 2009 7:50pm PDThttp://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html I wonder if they ever polled for the number of CoD4... : mobab
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Agreed; they have no f'ing idea. It's going to launch, they won't have enough servers, and it'll be an e... : the archvile
By: registry_error x Show Full Postno dedicated servers = no buy
smart move there IW...Oct 20, 2009 10:22am PDTno dedicated servers = no buy smart move there IW... : registry_error
By: nandu666 x Show Full PostWell, fuck it. I was looking forward to this game. So much for that. Maybe MW:3 won't be crippled.Oct 20, 2009 3:28pm PDTWell, fuck it. I was looking forward to this game. So much for that. Maybe MW:3 won't be crippled. : nandu666
By: richtard x Show Full PostSeems like CoD4 was just a little too popular, they don't want this one to nab sales from the next like that one did to WaW. That and the drip feed DLC so we end up paying shit loads more over time.
Still, the number of suckers who'll buy this anway is sure to be high enough to offset any loss incurred by those who know that we can have and have had better service in the past.
Unabashed profiteering chaps, they've got you by the short and curlies.Oct 21, 2009 3:56pm PDT
By: Miller_TYM x Show Full PostWTF is the point of playing online games if you have no good way to form communities with which to interact and become familiar with? The glory of a dedicated server was that you found a place to play a game with the same people over months/years of time.
Killing or being killed by "random nub player" has no where near the fun factor as killing or being killed by "that bastard I fight against day, after week, after month, after year".Oct 21, 2009 3:36pm PDT
By: Damarius101 x Show Full PostFUCK THEM.Oct 21, 2009 3:30pm PDTFUCK THEM. : Damarius101
By: Dark Hunter x Show Full PostLook guys, this is all about money, it has nothing to do with helping kiddie n00b players, or anti piracy, or preventing cheats or any of the other BS excuses they make, it is about exploiting the market and getting as much money out of you as possible
They have learnt from the console market that if they tie you into a specific network then they can bleed you dry with your purchase. First they get the initial payment from you for your purchase, you think you own the game and can play it online and enjoy, and for about 8 weeks you will, then they release a DLC pack, not much in it, 3 maps maybe a new spec ops map, and that will be $10 please, you don't have to buy it of course but if you dont, then you cant join in on a match making game because the servers wont support you, you don't have the new maps installed, so begrudgingly you pay your ten bucks, then another 8 weeks later and hello another DLC, then another DLC and it goes on and on and on
In the end that over priced game at $60 ends up costing $120 and that is what it is about, nothing more and nothing less, you the customer being screwed over and over and over, so enjoy your new IW.net, the rest of us sensible guys will say FUCK you Activision, IW and Vivendi, we are not blizzard fans, we wont pay for every little thing we do on our game.
Since Blizzard, vevndi merged they have decided to screw customers over completely, you only have to look how WoW is going, want to change your character in that game hey that will be $15 please, fifteen bucks to change your character type in a role playing game, i mean come on. You are all being screwed about time to wake up and realiseOct 21, 2009 2:06am PDTLook guys, this is all about money, it has nothing to do with helping kiddie n00b players, or anti piracy... : Dark Hunter
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You really didn't think this through. Matchmaking actually makes it easier for you to find a game with p... : r_picmip 5
You really didn't think this through. Matchmaking removes the choice from the player as to where he wants... : CatchmeintheRye
By: paketep x Show Full Post"Hey, PC gamers, you don't want to buy our $10 map packs?. Then, no more making new maps for you."
"Hey, we need to monetize IWNet a la Battle.net, but they won't come play on our network!. I have an idea, let's do like Blizz with SC2 and FORCE them to play on our net. No more dedicated servers!".
And that's all there is to this BS. Fucking Kotick everywhere, and another company that sells us for the green.
Way to go, IW. We had respect for you, you had respect for us, and everybody was happy.Oct 21, 2009 12:40pm PDT
By: yacoub35 x Show Full PostBowling added: "The mentality is making it much more accessible to the PC community as a whole
Looks like he mixed up PC gamers and console gamers. Console games are the ones that would benefit from a simplified system due to the nature of the device and its usage.Oct 21, 2009 12:14pm PDT
By: Bensam123 x Show Full PostThey're getting reamed on Slashdot as well right now:
I had a completely awesome post here, but the Shacknews page ate it when I somehow went backward on the page. Fuck.
Best example out of all I wrote though is this:
I would write a bunch of reasons about how dedicated servers give pc gamers what they want, if it wasn't going to fall on deaf ears. People want a place to go with people they like and form bonds, camaraderie, companionship, make rivalries, and have a forum to go to that isn't full of asshats where they can be a part of a community.
For those devs that get out. How would you like if your favorite bar or restaurant was randomly changed into something different each time you went there? Devs would reply that this place still serves mexican food or this place still serves cold beer. IT'S NOT THE FUCKING SAME.
Even though we're all anonymous online, people want a place to belong and a place that can feel like a home away from home. YOU'RE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM US.
It's not like I don't have friends IRL or play games with them. I do and even if there are dedicated servers we still hop onto a select few because we know they're worth our time. Even if I didn't play games with friends IRL which 99% of the time I don't because we have different wants and different schedules, I want a place where I can be a part of something and not feel like another nobody.
ModW2 was actually one of the games I was looking forward to buying in the last year, but that isn't really saying a lot. The PC gaming market is full of shitty ports or craptastic reiterations of the same game. I've actually been looking forward to more mods in the past three years (BF2, HL2, CoD4) then I have actual games. Hell I actually bought Crysis for Living Legends. I don't even care about Crysis or wanted to play it! Even after owning a copy I still haven't opened it up and played it cause it just doesn't interest me. It's just a bunch of shiny graphics with nothing good behind it.
I'm not going to say I wont buy another game from Acti-Blizz, because thats likely not true. I would say I'm not going to buy ModW2, but I probably will anyway. However, I can tell you that this is making a trend in the gaming industry and leading to burn out. It's why gamers are quiting and the industry is slowly dieing. We aren't going to magically pick up a console and start playing when we leave either. We will more then likely go watch some TV or go hang with some friends and reminisce about good games and dig SC out of a box and play it for a day before realizing how old and antiquated it is by todays standards.
PC gamers are not console gamers. We're nothing like console gamers and we have completely different standards and likes/dislikes. DO NOT TREAT US THE SAME. We can't be generalized as the bunch that joins a random server when our friends come over and sit around on the couch scratching our balls not really caring about what we're doing before TKing the entire team as a joke and then going out to find some bitches to fuck. We're a upstanding bunch that expect more from games and in doing so also live for them. PC gaming is a actual lifestyle and no matter how much developers flaunt consoles as the most awesomest thing, they aren't.
PC gamers have played consoles before and we choose not to play them because they're simply inferior by our standards and don't give us what we're looking for.
If devs are actually reading this post and are going to release some PR BS statement to help calm us down - SHAME ON YOU! Much like releasing a campaign or another new shiny patch before obsoleting a game. If things keep going the same way they are the PC gaming industry will eventually die out and it will be your denile of a problem and lackluster commitment to development that will be the root of it all. Of course before bailing out you will blame it all on piracy, because piracy is the reason people don't buy games, right?
Fuck. I remember when games were ported from the PC to the console and they were actually good. Thats not just being reminiscent either.Oct 20, 2009 2:46pm PDTThey're getting reamed on Slashdot as well right now: http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/20/0745221... : Bensam123
By: blankoboy x Show Full PostI was going to buy this game on launch day. They can go f*ck themselves now. I won't buy this game on any platform.Oct 21, 2009 8:11am PDT
By: eonix x Show Full PostTo those saying you won't buy the game because of its lack of dedicated servers, I say: Yes you will.
:)Oct 20, 2009 10:59am PDTTo those saying you won't buy the game because of its lack of dedicated servers, I say: Yes you will. ... : eonix
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While it's cute that you think you can read my mind, I really won't. I don't buy many games for the PC an... : noxiousgg
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Nope. : carbontree
Oh no, i really really won't. : richm74
No, I wont. : bgtpcg1
I say no, no I won't : jonin
i cancelled my preorder. now i'm waiting for what the community says after release, if the word is that t... : ShackFool
You don't know me. Go ahead, ask me if I eventually bought the two previous games that I said I would no... : the archvile
You are wrong. I cancelled my pre-order and moving on. I might rent it on a console to play the SP, that'... : mystifier
Report thought crime! : SumTingWong
Yes I will. : qwplayer
By: jkstanton x Show Full PostForced Steam integration = no sale. Bye. Adios. Ciao.
Here's an idea: How about selling the Steam version on Steam for people who like to feel that they're renting their games and for people who like to cede control of their games to another entity. And then sell the normal version in stores for the rest of us normal people.Oct 20, 2009 12:25pm PDTForced Steam integration = no sale. Bye. Adios. Ciao. Here's an idea: How about selling the Steam ... : jkstanton
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See ya later! : ajvitaly
A PCGamer who hates steam a shameful pcgamer. The server browser stuff I can understand and respect,... : hopterque1987
why would steam make someone feel like they were renting the game? it's installed on the system just the ... : Mansmells
By: Dark Hunter x Show Full PostWe run 5 public servers, with the CoD range on, CoD 2, CoD 4 and CoD WaW, our main server holds 36 players, and is completely full near enough every night., We are having to kick people to let our members get in. We have built a very large community with over 250 pubbers using us on a regular basis, the pubbers become friends and some even end up join the clan.
They like our servers so much because we run realism mods on there, we make sure the game is clean and have always at least 1 (often 3 or 4) MP's watching the server to make sure it is clean, respectful and a great place to play.
I have no intention of joining a server full of idiots i don't know, or is laggy as hell or plays the game in the vanilla mode as it comes from IW, we don't have our servers as run & gun servers nor do i wish to play on ones that are
All of our clan have cancelled their pre orders and no longer willing to support either Activision or IW, it was the clan support, the modders that made the call of duty series what it is, and to stab them in the back is unforgivable. over 100,000 people have signed the petition, it that relates to sales it is over $6,000,000 lost already. They can not ignore thatOct 20, 2009 11:08am PDTWe run 5 public servers, with the CoD range on, CoD 2, CoD 4 and CoD WaW, our main server holds 36 player... : Dark Hunter
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"We are having to kick people to let our members get in" this is what i hate about PC multiplayer. You... : zverozyab
"the modders that made the call of duty series what it is" I'm gonna disagree with you here and say it... : gnoleb
I'm ma let you finish, but I have to say that you don't know what he is talking about. It's one thing to ... : The_Turbinator
ya but the 2% "hardcore" guys arent what keeps iw in business and making call of duty games year after ye... : nova_x
You bunch really don't seem to understand. If you buy a game play it once get bored and never play it aga... : The_Turbinator
You're so right. The next COD game should be on wii, have fun family friendly colors and characters, and... : JediDwag
"We are having to kick people to let our members get in" i for one am glad you and your clique wont be... : nova_x
^^^ This is what I like about PC gaming... not the "we have to kick people" or the "realism mods" or what... : Dynotaku
Just because 100,000 signed the petition doesn't mean that all those people aren't buying the game. Some ... : GGAnate
By: fcm420 x Show Full PostThe whole match making , non dedicated server list stuff the online gaming industry has turned to is absolute crap.
I learned to accept it on consoles, even though its a terrible terrible system for online play even on consoles...
But when I saw Valve do it for Left 4 dead, Ugh!
I don't know what person at a game dev studio would raise their hand to vote for a server centric match making option that leaves very little "choice" to the player and dumbs down the server abilities on a pc.
looks like i'll toss this game out the door.Oct 21, 2009 4:33am PDTThe whole match making , non dedicated server list stuff the online gaming industry has turned to is abso... : fcm420
By: SonicusZ x Show Full PostThis just in! MW2 will limit the guns you can use based off your performance during the current match. The players in the lead will have access to weaker weapons while the last place player will be able to use super weapons such as the Blue Missile launcher that when fired, seeks out the lead player and kills them and any other nearby players. This new feature will make the game far more intense as now any person of any skill level will have an equal chance of winning.Oct 20, 2009 11:56pm PDTThis just in! MW2 will limit the guns you can use based off your performance during the current match. Th... : SonicusZ
By: nova_x x Show Full Posti honestly can't wait for iwnet and mw2 now on pc... it sounds great
although the "hardcore" are a vocal bunch... i'm sure iw realizes that the vocal minority is the loudest and the masses who are satisfied are nice and quiet because.. well... their satisfied.
i`m sure i dont need to tell them this though... they`ve likely already done their market research and have realized for every retard that likes ``mw2 N0 SNIp3rZ or Nad3s`` and plays exclusively on ``L33T C0D6 ClAn SeRvER`` there are probably many times more that just like playing Modern Warfare 2 by Infinity Ward and now wont have to put up with hunting for servers that arent retardedOct 20, 2009 12:32pm PDTi honestly can't wait for iwnet and mw2 now on pc... it sounds great although the "hardcore" are a voc... : nova_x
By: Frush81 x Show Full PostI dont feel like going through all the posts here can someone resume me really fast whats wrong with the "no dedicated" server?
I never played this game but I'm just curious why is it a big deal? (no mod obviously but thats not very surprising since they are releasing the game on every console).
Oct 20, 2009 1:47pm PDTI dont feel like going through all the posts here can someone resume me really fast whats wrong with the ... : Frush81
By: lolnub x Show Full PostHear ye! Hear ye! All hail King Kotick!
http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/the-destruction-of-blizzard/Oct 20, 2009 6:30pm PDTHear ye! Hear ye! All hail King Kotick! http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/the-destruction-of-... : lolnub
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By: hanged_man x Show Full Postim forming a group "Boycott Call of Duty MW2", this might get me a free copy or somethingOct 20, 2009 2:55pm PDTim forming a group "Boycott Call of Duty MW2", this might get me a free copy or something : hanged_man
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While the entire card is far from being finalized, TNA has revealed two matches that will definitely be taking place at the pay per view. In the first match, Samoa Joe, Low Ki and former WCW star Kaz Hayashi will be battling in a triple threat match for the X Division Championship. Seiya Sanada will be teaming with his new on screen mentor James Storm to take on his real life mentor Great Muta and Tajiri.
September 27, 2014
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August 16, 2014
"Heard Petey Williams retired last night. Such a great talent. Always enjoyed his work and working with him." - James Storm speaks on the surprising retirement of former TNA star Petey Williams
July 6, 2014
The decision to invite members of the Dallas Cowboys to Slammiversary 2014 proved to be quite an effective marketing move, as TNA was able to garner some mainstream media coverage from George Selvie being involved in a segment with James Storm and Mr Anderson. Among those that covered the incident were Dallas Morning News, TMZ, Fox Sports, CBS and a variety of local affiliates.
June 16, 2014
During a recent blog post, Jim Ross was asked what WWE needed to do in order to fix their product. The legendary commentator said that they simply needed to put on a better show and utilize their talents better. He praised Dolph Ziggler as a performer who needed to be push. Then, without solicitation, he praised James Storm and Bobby Roode of TNA.
May 19, 2014
In approximately two years, TNA has reduced the amount of contracted performers by nearly half, going from 60 to 33 during that stretch of time. Dixie Carter and company have been forced to allow performers to leave whenever their contracts expire because they need to become fiscally responsible if they wish to remain in business. Rumor has it that only Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Bully Ray, Samoa Joe, Abyss, James Storm, Bobby Roode and Mr Anderson have big salaries.
May 15, 2014
Earlier this week, news came out that Kurt Angle had been added as a last minute addition to the live events that TNA is holding this upcoming weekend. Word has now come out that the former world heavyweight champion will be teaming up with MVP to take on Ethan Carter and Brutus Magnus. Angle is replacing James Storm and Gunner, who are doing a show in England.
May 2, 2014
Since James Storm and Gunner are heading over to England this weekend to work a big anniversary show over there, Kurt Angle has been added to the TNA live events this upcoming weekend in Wisconsin. The move is designed to help with ticket sales, as Storm is one of the more popular performers on the tour. No word yet on who Angle will be wrestling on these shows.
May 1, 2014
TNA will be doing a couple of live events in Wisconsin this upcoming weekend, but James Storm and Gunner, both of whom are featured regularly on these tours, are not going to be available. The former TNA World Tag Team Champions are heading to England instead to work a big anniversary show for Plymouth Wrestling Alliance.
May 1, 2014
In a bloody I Quit match at TNA Sacrifice 2014, Gunner was able to force James Storm into calling off the match by breaking off a big shard of glass and threatening to jam it into the head of his former tag team partner. A very bloody Gunner refused to quit, even though he took quite the beating.
April 27, 2014
A video from Impact Wrestling of James Storm and Bobby Roode reforming Beer Money in a tag team match against Gunner and Bully Ray. TNA has been toying around with the idea of having Storm and Roode permanently joining forces again.
April 26, 2014
While they both have now established themselves as singles stars, there are talks backstage in TNA of doing a Beer Money reunion. The hope would be that James Storm and Bobby Roode can remain relevant while carrying the tag team division once again. It would help fill the void that is being left by the potential departures of Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian.
April 24, 2014
With so many of their performer contracts expiring this year, TNA officials have been busy with negotiations and signings. The latest person to put pen to paper is Gunner, a rising star in the promotion. With the deal, he is expected to remain with the company for a couple of years, and he is also expected to continue on his push since splitting with James Storm.
April 16, 2014
While the company has recently suffered the loss of AJ Styles and Chris Sabin, it appears that TNA has been able to retain one of their longtime stars. James Storm has signed a new multiple year deal to stick around. The former world heavyweight champion is expected to be given a nice push after he finishes up his program with Gunner.
April 13, 2014
Independent wrestling shows are usually done on the weekends, but a promotion in Tennessee has decided to do a rare one on a Wednesday. James Storm has been booked to be the headliner, and he will be going up against former TNA star Chase Stevens. Crimson, another former TNA star, is also working the event as well, but his opponent has not been revealed yet.
March 26, 2014
Internally, TNA is hoping that they can build up Gunner over the next several months, so that he can become a title challenger for Brutus Magnus and the world heavyweight championship. His program with James Storm and fantastic match at TNA Lockdown 2014 helped increase his credibility in the eyes of the fans. Management will be doing more of that as well.
March 15, 2014
At TNA Lockdown 2014, James Storm and Gunner put on a tremendous show inside of the steel cage. While they were both praised backstage for the match itself, both are receiving individual praises as well. James Storm is being lauded for making his opponent look like a million bucks, while Gunner is receiving words of encouragement because he is starting to look like a star.
March 11, 2014
In a crowd pleasing segment at TNA Lockdown 2014, Gunner was able to secure one of the biggest wins of his career by defeating James Storm in a Last Man Standing match after Storm was unable to get back up from a superplex through two steel chairs.
March 9, 2014
There are talks that James Storm will be having quite a bit role at Slammiversary, which was just recently announced to be taking place in Dallas. The feeling within TNA is that his southern gimmick would be quite the draw for fans in Texas. He is currently engaged in a program with Gunner, and that feud could be escalated into a top tier one by June.
March 7, 2014
While he is no longer feuding with Mr Anderson, who has been moved into a program with Christy Hemme and Sam Shaw now, Bully Ray will be facing his nemesis once again. The two of them will be headlining some live events for TNA this weekend, where they will be working a steel cage match. James Storm and Gunner are also working a featured match at the show.
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I am on cd 15, on bcp and I'll just be danged if Af didn't just show up AGAIN. I give up!!!
I am on cd 15, on bcp and I'll just be danged if Af didn't just show up AGAIN. I give up!!!
I had spotting/bleeding every two weeks for the first 3months I was on bcp. I was only on it for 6months but after the first 3months I would still spot just not regularly and not much. What bcp are you on? I was on a progesterone/estrogen combo (ortho-evra patch and then switched to Yaz). I've heard it's uncommon with the combos but relatively common to bleed/spot with the progesterone-only.
I'm on the Loestrin-Fe.
That's a low-dose bcp...may be break through bleeding.
...I'm so sorry you're having this added stress ! Thinking of you and praying!!
I've decided to stop the pills all together and if Dh wants to dtd, he'll just have to wear a condom. I go back to my Dr on the 13th and hopefully we can figure something out. It'd be nice to have Tanner's results so I can either stay off the pills until we TTC or either start planning for my hysterectomy.
I honestly can't believe you haven't gotten those back yet! I had tissue from one of my early losses sent out for the basic genetic testing and they told me if I didn't hear anything it's because everything was normal. I called 8wks later and nothing was in yet. I called at 12wks and they said the results were normal.
Praying you get those very soon!
I spoke with them again Friday. And, she assured me that Dh and I are fine. She said there was no reason why we couldn't have another healthy baby. But, they did find something wrong with Tanner and are doing more in-depth testing. I can't allow myself to get pg again until I know exactly what was wrong with him. More than likely there's nothing we could've done to prevent it then or with future kids, but I have to know for sure. Kwim? I told them my next appt is the 13th and would love to be able to discuss everything with my Dr. She said they'd"get on it." Ya, we'll see.
How frustrating. I'm sorry everything is taking so long.
It's such a rock and a hard place! We chose to move forward with ttc again after 6months on bcp with good results...really praying this happens for you too It's so hard not knowing though (((big hugs)))
Praying, praying, praying you get Tanner's results soon so you can determine a definite direction that is right for you.
Just out of curiosity, did you mean hysterectomy as in surgically removing your uterus or a tubal ligation?
No, I meant hysterectomy. I had a tubal ligation 12 years ago. Got a divorce and remarried. My Dh and I decided to have our own children, so I got a reversal done and had our little girl, that will turn 2 Saturday. I have adenomyosis and the only fix to that is a hysterectomy. So when I know I'm finished having babies, it'll all come out.
Oh wowsa! Really praying...that's huge !!
Thank you for the prayers. I really need them right now. It is so disheartening to think I may never be able to carry and love another baby.
Loestrin made me break through bleed for 6months post partum...it also made me gain 12lbs of water weight and my skin to break out like a teenager...switched to Yasmin and never had any other issues. Hang in there, mama
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I have gained 17 pounds and am bleeding every two weeks. I mean a full on Af, not just spotting. I'm cranky and just not me. I hate it too!!! I started watching my carbs and sugars 3 weeks ago and have lost 12 pounds so far. I'm slowly but surely getting back to my pre bcp weight.
I honestly think that particular pill is the devil, no joke...emotionally and physically was at my absoulute worst. my break through bleeding was not sptting either...it was changing a gazillion tampons a day(sorry TMI)...
Hang in there.
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I got a phone call from my MFM office this afternoon. She said they'd just received some result and wanted to schedule a time for the nurse to call me tomorrow. I hope that it's Tanners results and not the ones the genetics lady had already given to me. So, fx'd we have some real answers tomorrow.
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I know NOTHING! I was very busy at work and couldn't get to the phone when the nurse called. She left me a message. She said they finally have all of Tanner's results and they're too complicated to tell me over the phone. She only works in the office on Wednesdays, so we're scheduled to go talk to her this Wednesday at 9am. I tried calling her back but she was already gone for the day. That just seems so unfair to leave a message like that with no way for anyone to contact her to ask questions. I'm just a bag of tears. I can't eat, sleep or even focus on anything except what she might tell us Wednesday . I know it's in God's hands and no matter what happens, He's in control. Please pray for me and dh to make it through these next few days.
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What an incredibly frustrating message.
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That's just awful !! I'm so sorry
I can't believe she gave info like that in a message...very unprofessional!
(((Big hugs)))...praying for you through these next few days!
I love you ladies! Thanks for all your support. Three more long days, til I find out. Scared outta my mind!!!
((hugs)) I'm so sorry that happened. It's completely not right to leave you such a message with no way to get the results until Wed. Praying for your family.
Tomorrow is the day. Appt is at 9am,so I'll let ya'll know what I find out ASAP. Prayers needed and MUCH appreciated !!!
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Family, classmates, and politicians packed a church Saturday for a 3-hour long service in Hadiya Pendleton's honor.
Her mother shared memories while other speakers shared a message about stopping these senseless murders.
First Lady Michelle Obama and Senior White House advisor Valerie Jarrett were in attendance Saturday for the funeral of the 15-year-old who was slain last week. So were Gov. Pat Quinn, Attorney General Lisa Madigan, Mayor Rahm Emanuel, and County Board President Toni Preckwinkle.
And while the first lady did step forward to console Hadiya Pendleton's mother alongside the casket, neither Michelle Obama nor the politicians spoke to the gathering. Instead, it was religious leaders, friends, and family including Hadiya's mother.
Cleopatra Pendleton told mourners that she tried to keep her daughter busy so she would be out of harm's way in a city plagued by gun violence. She said no mother or father should have to bear such a loss - that for those in the packed church who know what that pain is like, she was sorry.
"You don't know everything. You don't know how hard this is. And those of you who do know how hard this is, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No mother, not father should ever have to experience this," said Cleopatra Pendleton.
Father Michael Pfleger called Hadiya Pendleton as the face of an "epidemic of violence causing funeral processions around the country." The prominent Chicago pastor told the packed church that "we must become the interrupters of funeral processions."
Dozens of friends described their favorite memories of Hadiya, ranging from her favorite foods --Chinese, Cheeseburgers, ice cream and Fig Newton's, to her hijinks in school.
"She's right here with us. She never left. She's right here with all of us, still whispering the answers in chemistry," one of her friends said.
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"She is a representative not just of the people of Chicago. She is a representative of the people across this nation who have lost their lives," Stuart said.
Mrs. Obama also met privately with the Pendleton family and the president sent a hand-written note, which was printed in the program.
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By Ron SavageFox 2 NewsWHITE LAKE, Mich. (WJBK) -- The Great Lakes National Cemetery in Holly says no dogs allowed, but one local military mom says that dog deserved to be buried there.After U.S. Army Sergeant Corey McCourt graduated from Livonia Franklin High School, he became an explosives expert assigned to an army mine detection team -- a real life hurt locker.He's done tours in Afghanistan and is still serving in the war on terror.He worked alongside a military legend, Mina, a male black lab who did nine tours of duty in Afghanistan, three tours with Sergeant McCourt."The dog sits in front of the bomb and my son, who does this, he goes in and he disarms the bomb after the dog finds it," says June Etlinger.Mina was also promoted to sergeant and then later retired with an honorable discharge from the army.But at the age of 13, Mina developed a serious lung ailment and sadly had to be put down. Sergeant McCourt is still fighting, but no longer with Mina."He just wanted him to have a good life the last couple of years of his life, and he let him do whatever he wanted to do because he earned it," Etlinger says.So with her son serving, mom volunteered to arrange for Mina's final resting place. She choose the Great Lakes National Cemetery in Holly. The cemetery serves as the resting place for our nation's military."My father is buried there and my grandmother and my grandfather are buried there. It's a beautiful cemetery and it's an honorable cemetery, and I just feel that Mina deserves that as well," says Etlinger.But when the family inquired about a burial for Mina, the Great Lakes cemetery administration told them a canine burial is not possible. It's not allowed."I don't think he's ever been asked that question before, so he was kind of like no, we don't do that here," says Etlinger.This family believes Mina should be treated just like a solider."I have the phone number to Washington. That was going to be my next step was to call Washington, contact somebody in Washington, because like I said, he may be a dog, but he's a solider anmd he deserves it," Etlinger remarks.I left a message with the Pentagon for clarification. We are expecting a return call soon.For now, Mina's remains are secured at an animal hospital in Michigan to give the family some time to find a solution.
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Alex's Oceanview Stay
17century, 1628, Spanish built Fuerte Santo Domingo in Danshui(Tamsui), Taipei. 1643, the Dutch East India Company built Fort Antonio on same site. They called Danshui(Tamsui), city of the oriental Venezia. 21 century, 2000, Alexs Oceanview Stay Start on the most beautiful view place of Danshui, Taipei. We offers the best stay experience in Danshui, Taipei, and a warm and comfortable living. Here giving travelers a spectacular view of the ocean, river & city. Rooms and beds are well maintained and we cater to all your needs.
Availability & RatesTo view availability and prices please select dates and click 'Update Dates'
B&B Facilities & Policies
- 24 hour reception
- 24 hour security
- Air Conditioning
- Airport transfers
- Bar
- Bicycle hire
- Bicycle parking
- Board Games
- Book exchange
- Breakfast not included
- Cable TV
- Cafeteria
- Card phones
- Ceiling fan
- Cots available
- Currency exchange
- DVDs
- Elevator
- Fax Service
- Free City Maps
- Free Internet Access
- Free Wifi
- Hair Dryers
- Internet Access
- Kitchen
- Laundry Facilities
- Lounge
- Luggage Storage
- Parking
- Safety Deposit Box
- Tea/Coffee Making Facilities
- Towels Included
- Wheelchair Accessible
Cancellation PolicyThis property has a 1 day cancellation policy. Failure to cancel within this time will result in a cancellation charge equal to the first night of your stay.
Must-Read Guesthouse InfoThis property has specific Terms & Conditions.
Alex's Oceanview Stay provides shared room (dorm) and private room accommodation to travellers from all over the world., we offers a wide variety of rooms, each and every one of them cozy and quiet at very good prices in Taipei. Check in time after 15.00
Check out time before 12.00
you can check-in at any time and we will watch your luggage, it's free luggage storage for early arrival & late leave.
Located Near
Alexs Oceanview Stay is located in the beautiful ocean & river view town centre of Danshui, Taipei.
Our place just next to Danshui MRT Station, only 1 minute walk away from Danshui MRT station exit 2.
Close to Danshui(Tamsui) Old street, night market, Golden Coast, Water Front, Danshui river estuary, �many historical sites and scenic spots...