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Just on the off-topic/culled component: On the whole, and knowing Rok, I definitely think that Rok was off-put in the way people post, probably not aware YMAS is a let loose area either. I also don't think he understands that the TAGS we have here on Bullshido actually represent something compared to say Sherdog etc where it's just a "POST COUNT" type deal. So, not having spoken to him about it, his pre-conceived notion could have been "Oh, here's this guy with lots of things above his name, acting like how I think an online bully would act on other forums and talking out his ass and telling me his point of view and feeling like it's belittling mine because I'm a new poster etc etc guy obviously doesn't train enough to be picking on me in this thread." That combined with his aggressive responses to Omega kept escalting things between them; but I think it's a misunderstanding from his point of view. But I'll let him clear any of that up~!
I guess a 'firey' introduction to Bullshido, haha.
For me it's not the case of "I know best for all" but that 'I know my body' and if I can give feedback that would make me happier in class, awesome.
Our classes are pretty cool, and the instructors are all open to feedback and mention as such at the end of every so class. I was very close to asking to tone down the starts of the classes from so much cardio and what I felt was over the top stuff for warm ups and then they were adjusted before I said anything.
Usually we're there before the offical class flow rolling, drilling, and leading into just free-rolling ourselves in a tiny free space so we're past warmed up by the time we hit the main class; I realise this isn't the same for everyone, just something from my point of view.
E.G. instead of running around doing fireman's carries with the weight on my discs out of alignment, I'd rather drill shooting doubles and lifting my partner, or duck unders to body lift from the back to warm up my back etc.
We have specific times for open mat classes for free-rolling, and for our set classes we almost always are doing techniques or drills, and I don't think most people want to skip this. Sometimes I FEEL like I want to do more free rolling, but that's to practice technique in a live way to see if I can hit setups, feel timings I've been working on. But it was a very short time when I wanted to ONLY ROLL (like 2 weeks at the beginning of blue belt when I wanted to try leg locks all the time) and not do any technique at all. So with my experience at our gym the classes don't seem to want this, or we just have enough access to other times to do this enough it's not a overlying problem.
Sometimes it is awesome just to have those classes (leading up to comps, gradings, or otherwise) as just a quick warm-up and then rounds at 20% - 50% - 75% - full control all class, but this is only at very specific times.
I only have small adjustments in my world view as I gain further information to review and decide if I need to reformulate an opinion. I'm open minded, but have also always challenged my own assertions, also relying on a lot of empirical evidence as to the 'why' of things, and that's how I understand them. Which is why, I guess, I'm taking time to respond and hunt down a reason for things now ;).
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OK I have had a lay off for a bit because of work. And I am an unfit fat **** at the moment.
Did some sparring with the coach (2 five minute rounds)
I was pretty us less and a punching bag after about 30 seconds.
I had the opportunity to learn and improve my game. I had the responsibility to help prepare my coach for an fight.
And I failed in both because I did not have the conditioning that hard warm ups provide.
I actually Said because we have discussed this thread in the gym"this is why we do hard warm ups"
If you are not conditioned to do he class how do you learn anything from it.Whitsunday Martial Arts Airlie Beach North Queensland.
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Excuse my bloody silly tablet and weird spell checker.Whitsunday Martial Arts Airlie Beach North Queensland.
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I thought the warm-ups sucked when I first started training. I had only quit smoking 2 weeks earlier, and I started getting tunnel vision toward the end of my first warm-up. I didn't understand what the whole point of that crap was, or how all of these silly exercises would help me learn how to tap people out.
Fast forward about a year: I'm 30 lbs lighter, and I can roll with you for 30 minutes on end without gassing. I'm good at conserving my energy, I'm extremely focused on technique over power, and I'm starting to learn a little bit of jiu jitsu instead of moronic smashing/wrestling. I'm not much stronger than I was when I started, but I can handle knee on belly without tapping out, and I can last over 30 seconds with someone on top of me now....none of which were possible before I conditioned my body through these warm-ups to deal with jiu jitsu.
I'm by no means an expert, or even anything above a novice.....but the one theme that gets repeated a lot whenever I talk to higher level players is that your muscular reaction should be so solid and technical that you don't have to think about it. If you're thinking then moving, your'e going too slow and your opponent can adjust for what you're doing. I don't feel like I can get to that level of the game through drilling alone, I have to have complete control over my body and know that I can quickly snap over from one position to another as I'm rolling to survive/submit.
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bridge 1: Spaz
bridge 2: ego
bridge 3: strength
bridge 4: not dealing with strength
bridge 5: linear thinking
bridge 6: definitive moves
BTW this is me talking out my ass. I'm making these bridge names as I'm typing this without too much thought in why I have come to these conclusions. It was just to help you understand my mindset.
If I may share an anecdote; I showed up to a seminar I was supposed to put on as a SAMBO instructor. I watched everybody roll and my determination what I would show everybody. I sat everybody down and told them I would show them the crossbody armbar. You should have seen everybody's faces, I had 1 purple belt, a few blues, lots of whites and mixture of Japanese Ju Jitsu and Judoka blackbelts. I told them that I knew they wanted to learn leg locks but I think they would get more from the armbar. I then told them I would refund their money if they thought they didn't get anything from the session.
After 4 drills, breakdowns and critiques I invited each of them to come out on the floor and roll. The purple belt, 1 judoka and two blue belts took me up on the offer. I armbarred each of them within 4 minutes. I ended the session by telling them that it's neat to learn all these fun unique maneuvers but by doing it they neglect their basics. It's usually around blue belt when that happens.
I don't know what to tell you why this happens. My theory is that by blue belt a person has developed the ability to tap people without too great of an effort so they want to take off with it and they learning curve shoots up. They learn all these moves without really knowing why they work, I mean truly knowing why. Even today I learn different things about leverage and maneuvers of the basics and to me that's fascinating. Sure I can pull off flying toe holds, jumping kimura's, D'arce, Brabos, Weaving Heel Hooks, but it normally comes down to understanding the basics.
The reason why I shared this anecdote is for you to understand that things you may dismiss today as not necessary you may find useful tomorrow.
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Interview Details – Applied online. Long questionnaire. One-on-one interview a week later with HR person. Then one week training with 2 other new hires. I got Women's Shoes with best commission in the store- 10%. Probably hardest job in the store though with all of the running around for indecisive women.
Interview Question – What makes you want to leave your current job for this one? Answer Question
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I applied online and the process took 2 weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom in June 2010.
Interview Details – I applied online for a retail position, but in no particular department. I received an e-mail within a few days to set up a phone interview within the week. The phone interview was with that stores HR Manager and about 15 minutes long consisting of generic retail questions - What is good customer service?, Why Nordstrom?, What do you like about retail? At the end of the call we set up a time to interview in person. I interviewed with the HR Manager at the Nordstrom I applied to. Very relaxed interview. a lot of the same type of questions: Best/Worst customer service experience? Do you follow fashion? What is your best/worst quality., Expand on your previous experience. At the end of that interview the HR Manager excused herself to see if the department manager was available (I was still not told at this time what department), she was not so we scheduled a second interview. At the second interview I met with the department manager, a lot of the same type of questions/getting to know you, and also a few regarding specifics to her department. I had previous experience with fitting suits, and outerwear so I was placed in Studio/Narrative and Coats (in season), though I did not apply for this specifically. During the interview the department manager did a role play exercise involving me trying to help/sell her a specific blouse. I honestly did terribly, but told her that I was a quick learn and would take and apply any sales advice. I left the interview not feeling exceptionally confident, but the department manager called me within several days offering me the position.
Interview Question – Role playing exercise trying to sell specific products. View Answer
Negotiation Details – I did not negotiate. They offered me a high (for retail) base starting hourly salary because of my experience, and was told that it was expected that I would eventually be making more per hour with commission.
If your commission for the day figures out to be higher per hour than your base salary that will be your hourly salary for that day, if it lower then they use your base hourly salary - so you will never earn lower than your base salary per hour.
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I applied online and the process took 2+ weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom.
Interview Details – The process begins with an online application, if approved there is a phone interview and possible a second phone interview, the next step after this is an in person meeting with a Human Resources Manager, and finally an interview with the Department Manager of whom you are applying for.
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Negotiation Details – No negotiation.
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I applied online and the process took 1+ week - interviewed at Nordstrom.
Interview Details – Applied online - uploaded my resume, references, and other stuff. I got an email back the next day or two telling me to set up a phone interview online. I scheduled it, and waited for the day I'd get the call. On the day of the scheduled phone interview, the manager? interviewer? called about two hours late, so just make sure you're open two hours before and after your original time slot. The questions were pretty simple - Why Nordstrom? Give an example of good customer service? - and after that, the interviewer forwarded my information to the manager of the department I was applying to. She then set up a face to face interview, which was also pretty casual. It was one-on-one, and short (15 minutes max).
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I applied online and the process took 2 weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom in November 2013.
Interview Details – Very laid back, easy going and friendly. Arrived to Customer Experience and waited to be escorted to the back of Nordstrom. The manager arrived not long afterwards and led me back to a small room with a table and two chairs and we sat down and she asked me various questions about my experience.
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Negotiation Details – It was very relaxed and easy.
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I applied online - interviewed at Nordstrom in June 2014.
Interview Details – Created account on the website and then applied online for a position. Got an email the next day asking me to chose a phone interview time. I scheduled the next open slot which was about a week later. I scheduled it for 4pm but they only called around 4:45, keep a two hour slot open for your phone interview. The phone interview lasted about 10-15 minutes. They asked about 5-7 questions but nothing hard. Then the lady told me she would like to schedule a in store interview with a manager and asked me what department I was interested in. The in store interview was scheduled for about 4 days later and there was a group of us waiting. Then one by one we each were taking to a different area by the manager or assistant manager of the department we wanted to work in. Then the interview lasted about a half hour.
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I applied online and the process took 1 week - interviewed at Nordstrom in February 2013.
Interview Details – I got a call within 2 days of applying. We talked on the phone briefly and then did a quick face to face interview. They talk a lot about working off commission. It helps if you have before. They are all about customer service. The job you apply for online isn't always the job they have for you when you are in the interview. After the find a fit department, they take you down to meet the manager and the manager makes you sell an item in the department. It can either be super fun or nerve wracking! I got a call and was hired within the next 2-3 days!
Interview Question – Honestly the most difficult question which isn't difficult at all is When have you had an unhappy customer and how did you handle the situation. View Answer
Negotiation Details – No negotiation, you work off commission.
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I applied online and the process took 4+ weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom in May 2014.
Interview Details – I applied in April as soon as they posted openings for the seasonal sales associates and I scheduled a phone interview a week later. The phone interview was really short, she just asked why I wanted to work at Nordstrom, an example of a time I went above and beyond to achieve a goal, and a couple other questions. I was still at school so she told me to come in on their next interviewing day and that I would be able to choose the department I wanted to work in (based on what would still be available since some previous seasonal employees would be coming back).
For the in-person interview, I was extremely nervous going into it and was expecting a pretty formal interview. However, I arrived 15 minutes early and right after I got there, a woman came to lead us over to the interview room where they had multiple interviews going on at the same time at tables spread out around the room. My interviewer was really nice and laid back, which made me feel much more comfortable. During the interview, she was summarizing my answers and writing them down but it was pretty low pressure--we even got off topic a couple of times so it eliminated most of my nerves. However, a couple of questions I wasn't expecting but as long as you come prepared with a few specific examples of times you have been successful or have reached a goal etc. you should be fine. Also, you don't have to have retail experience to answer the behavioral questions, you can use any examples from your life.
After she finished the questions she talked to me more about the job and then showed me around the department. She asked me a few questions about how familiar I was with the department (brands I could name and trends that were in style this season). Then she gave me a simple scenario where she was a customer and I had to pick out a few items I thought she would like. She asked me what I should do if the customer wanted to buy everything I picked out and I didn't really know so she told me that you want to try to build relationships so you should ask the customer how to contact them if there is a sale or event going on. Finally, she gave me her business card and I e-mailed her the next day to thank her and then she called me back that same day to say I got the job!
Interview Question – 1. Example of successful teamwork, 2. Example of competitive situation, 3. Example of a time someone expected too much out of you, 4. Example of working hard to achieve a goal, 5. How will you reach your sales goals?, 6. Why are you interested in *specific department*?, 7. Come prepared with questions to ask them Answer Question
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I applied in-person and the process took 4 weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom.
Interview Details – On line applications. If you have previous experience in sales You need to go in after you apply. Talk with the manager or managers. Get noticed. A lot of people apply.
Interview Question – Most questions deal with how you can show excellent customer service. Answer Question
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I applied online and the process took 2 weeks - interviewed at Nordstrom in May 2010.
Interview Details – Applied online, was invited in for the interview (it was seasonal, for their anniversary sale). The interview took place in a big open conference room, and a lot of other people were being interviewed as well. There was a waiting room and you had to wait until your name was called. Was hired after the first interview. I sent them an old fashioned thank you card after the interview.
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He played Officer Jon Baker on the 1970s show "CHiPs," but Larry Wilcox is now playing the role of stock fraudster.
Wilcox, 63, the former small screen state trooper, was sentenced to three years' probation today in a Florida federal court on a securities fraud conviction.
The Securities and Exchange Commission says Wilcox was involved in kickback scams run by more than a dozen penny stock promoters. They were caught in an FBI undercover sting operation offering to pay kickbacks to pension-fund managers or stockbrokers for using clients funds to buy penny stocks.
A tearful Wilcox told the judge he is broke as his wife sat in the courtroom sobbing.
"I think my actor's pride and ego led me into areas well beyond my ability to perform," he said.
Wilcox pleaded guilty in November and faced a maximum sentence of five years. But he avoiided jail time with probation and 500 hours of community service.
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Snot Sucker: a New Form of Entertainment
01.14.11 Snot Sucker: a New Form of Entertainment
Wow, who knew snot could be so exciting? Wait, let me re-phrase that - what non-male over the age of say, 15, finds snot so exciting? Well as it turns out, my whole family does.
Let me explain. My 5-month old recently came down with a cold. I ran down the checklist of things to do - Steam, check. Hydration, check. Sleep, check (for baby but not mom). Snot removal...uh-oh.
Stepping back for a minute, when MightyNest first added the Nosefrida Nasal Aspirator/Snot Sucker I thought, "ewwwwww, I would never use that." And then when my daughter was born I thought "ok, I'll buy it and make my husband do it." Good plan.
(In case you're unfamiliar with the product here's how it works: you place one end up against your baby's nostril and the other end in your mouth. You suck and voila, the snot comes out...into the tube...up towards your mouth. Yep. But don't worry, there's a very good filter so snot never actually comes anywhere near your mouth).
But there was a problem with my plan - my husband was out of town when my daughter came down with the cold which meant I was flying solo on the snot-removal task. Great. So, the first thing I did was grab the nasal aspirator our hospital gave us. The result - a crying, terrified baby and zero confidence that I had even made a difference.
So I sucked it up (pardon the pun) and grabbed the Nosefrida and boy am I glad that I did! My daughter hardly even flinched and didn't shed a tear. And not only that, but I could actually see the results (i.e. lots of snot) and feel good that I was actually helping her breathe easier.
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By the time many of the 55,507 who witnessed the Bears' victory were heading for the exits, Baylor players and coached basked in their 49-26 rout in the Bridgepoint Education Holiday Bowl at Qualcomm Stadium on Thursday night.
"The running game was huge," said Baylor senior quarterback Nick Florence, who also came up big by completing 10 of 13 passes for 188 yards and two touchdowns. He ran for another score. Florence broke Robert Griffin III's single-season school record for passing yards during the game, finishing with 4,309 yards.
"I just happened to followed the Heisman Trophy winner, so for me, I just had to go out and be me," Florence said. "I'm not Robert, I'm not 6-3 and I don't run a 4.3. I just had to be me."
Baylor's offensive line cleared holes for running backs Lache Seastrunk and Glasco Martin. Seastrunk, voted the bowl's offensive MVP, ran for a game-high 138 yards and a touchdown on 16 carries, while Martin added three touchdowns and 98 yards on 21 carries.
"Best O-line in America," Florence said, "and we've got the best backs in America. They've done a heck of job running the ball."
Baylor rushed for 306 yards to only 33 for UCLA. Overall, the Bears, who averaged 578.8 yards during the regular season, compiled 494 yards of offense compared to 362 for the Bruins.
The yardage disparity was among the reasons the Bears (8-5) captured their fourth straight victory and pinned a third consecutive loss on the Bruins (9-5).
"It was a tough night against a really good football team," UCLA coach Jim Mora said, "but we're going to continue to work hard.
"We've got a long ways to go to become the team that we want to be. The team that we want to be is a national champion. Tonight showed us how far we have to go, but we're determined to get there, and we're heading in the right direction."
Baylor also got a boost from its defense, which sacked UCLA quarterback Brett Hundley six times and pressured him for much of the contest. Defensive end Chris McAllister, selected the defensive MVP, recorded two sacks.
Baylor limited UCLA running back Johnathan Franklin, who entered the game with 1,700 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns, to 34 yards on 14 carries.
"We had a lot of time to prepare for this game," McAllister said. "We kind of knew the sets we were going to get and how the linemen were going to set, and we were able to take advantage of that. I think everything showed on the field today."
Hundley finished 26-for-50 for 329 yards. He threw three touchdown passes, one of them a 34-yarder to Logan Sweet on the final play of the game. UCLA's Jerry Johnson had five receptions for 116 yards.
"It is what it is," Hundley said.
Baylor dominated the first half and rolled to a 35-10 lead at the break.
Martin capped a 53-yard, six-play drive with a 4-yard touchdown run for a 7-0 lead with 8:01 left in the first quarter.
The Bears scored again on their next possession, marching 84 yards in seven plays, as Florence connected with wide receiver Antwan Goodley on an 8-yard scoring pass with 4:22 remaining in the first period. Florence's 48-yard completion to wide receiver Terrance Williams helped set up the score.
Florence followed by hitting a streaking Tevin Reese down the sideline for a 55-yard touchdown pass, giving Baylor a 21-0 advantage with 11:08 remaining in the half.
A Baylor turnover led to UCLA's initial score of the half. Two plays after defensive back Randall Goforth recovered Baylor tight end Jordan Najvar's fumble at the Bears' 21, Hundley found Joseph Fauria in the end zone for a 22-yard scoring pass, cutting Baylor's lead to 21-7 with 6:55 left in the second quarter.


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Manchester Crimewatch: Fender-bender crash leads to drug possession charge
Katelyn Poisson, 20, of 21 Paige Hill Road, was arraigned March 8 on a felony of receiving stolen property and a misdemeanor of disobeying a police officer for giving a police officer a false name. Bail was set at $10,000 cash/surety bail.
The drug charge stems from Poisson allegedly having heroin in her possession at the jail after her arrest. She had allegedly concealed the drug within her body.
Poisson could enter no plea to the new felony charge, so a probable cause hearing was set for March 27. Bail on the new charge is $5,000 cash/surety.
Aggravated DWI charge
David Zaitsev, 22, of 3 Tiffany Lane, Bedford, pleaded innocent Friday in Circuit Court, Manchester District Division, to a misdemeanor charge of aggravated driving while intoxicated and trial was set for April 15.
Zaitsev, whose license was revoked in 2011 for an underage DWI, allegedly had a blood alcohol level of .16 or more when he was arrested on Main Street early Friday.
He could enter no plea to a felony charge of possession of a controlled drug (Ecstasy), so a probable cause hearing was set for March 27.
Bail was set at $2,000 cash/surety.
Felony charge this time
Craig Bienvenue, 20, of 6 Surrey Lane, could enter no plea Friday in Circuit Court, Manchester District Division, to a felony charge of receiving stolen property, alleging that he had in his possession a Macbook Pro laptop whose owner had reported it stolen. The laptop computer was later pawned for $210.
Bail was set at $1,000 cash/surety, with conditions barring contact with the laptop owner and barring Bienvenue from the pawn shop. A probable cause hearing on the felony was set for March 27.
Bienvenue had been arraigned March 8 on a misdemeanor charge of theft by unauthorized taking and prowling, a violation, in connection with allegedly going through vehicles on Peabody Avenue and having $120 in coins and other items in his backpack that are believed to have been taken from vehicles. He is scheduled for trial April 11 on those charges, for which bail was set at $500 cash/surety.
Copper thefts alleged
A Goffstown man who has been indicted by the Hillsborough County North grand jury on 2012 charges of burglary and theft by unauthorized taking was arraigned Friday in Circuit Court, Manchester District Division, on two new felony charges of theft by unauthorized taking and a misdemeanor of possession of burglary tools.
David Major, 43, of 140 Elm St., is accused of entering a secured Fairpoint Communications property at 100 Gay St. Wednesday and Thursday and removing copper wire valued at more than $10,000. He is accused of having in his possession, when arrested, tools that included two flashlights, gloves, and wire cutters.
Police said Major was a passenger in a truck driven by Michael Kirwin, 32, of 58 Lafayette St. Kirwin allegedly cut the fencing to gain access to the property and both men allegedly worked together to remove the copper wire.
Police said the two men were responsible for a similar theft the preceding night and Kirwin reportedly sold the stolen wire to Manchester Metals at 87 Union St.
Kirwin was charged with two counts of felony theft, as well as criminal mischief and theft by deception. He was released on $5,000 cash/surety bail and scheduled for arraignment in Circuit Court March 27.
Says it never happened
Steven Martel, 43, of 396 Manchester St., pleaded innocent Friday in Circuit Court, Manchester District Division, to a misdemeanor charge of simple assault that alleges he slapped his girlfriend across the face with an open hand.
Martel told Judge William Lyons: "It never happened."
Martel was apparently unaware that his girlfriend had been escorted out of the building for being loud and disruptive when he told Lyons: "She's here right now to drop charges."
Lyons told Martel that it is the state that brings the charges, not the victim. Martel declined to apply for a court-appointed lawyer, even after Lyons said a conviction could put Martel in jail for a year.
Bail was continued at $1,000 personal recognizance with conditions barring contact with the alleged victim and barring Martel from the 396 Manchester St. address.
Trial was set for May 21.
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An artist's rendition of a habitable moon orbiting a gas-giant planet. / David A. Aguilar, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Nevermind the Ewoks. For astrobiologists, the best part of Return of the Jedi was probably the gas-giant planet Endor and its accompanying forest moon. This bizarre concept—a habitable, Earth-like world orbiting a massive planet like Jupiter or Saturn—has proved so captivating that it has inspired not only Avatar, the highest-grossing movie of all time, but also a canonical 1997 peer-reviewed research paper published in Nature.
Besides the idea's pure novelty, there are sound reasons for scientific interest in habitable "exomoons." The growing consensus is that after the Earth, the moons of giant planets like Jupiter and Saturn appear most likely to harbor some sort of life.
Europa has a vast liquid-water ocean beneath its icy crust that may be enriched with nutrients from the moon's rocky deep interior. Enceladus is a water-ice slushball that seems to have pockets of liquid water beneath its surface, which betray their presence in vaporous plumes jetting from the moon's southern polar regions. And Titan boasts not only a subsurface water ocean but also a thick atmosphere, complex organic chemistry, and a global methanological cycle that mirrors the aqueous rhythms of life on Earth. These are only the most notable and scrutinized potentially habitable moons in our solar system—there are others even more mysterious.
Even generously including Venus and Mars in the inner solar system's tally of habitable places, the outer solar system still offers more worlds where life could conceivably exist. When it comes to the search for alien life in our own backyard, moons are the next great frontier, even though they are quite different from the environments we're used to on Earth. And, according to David Kipping, an astronomer at University College London, moons may also be the next big thing in the search for life beyond the solar system.
Kipping has developed a way to look for habitable exomoons using NASA's Kepler mission, and says that we could conceivably discover one before finding another convincingly Earth-like exoplanet. It's even possible, he says, that the homeworlds for the majority of life in our galaxy more resemble Endor or Pandora than our familiar planet. As you read this, Kipping and his colleagues are sifting through the new Kepler data, looking for the telltale signatures of Earth-sized exomoons circling giant planets in the habitable zones of distant stars.
Is all this too outlandish to be true? Is Kipping on to something, or has he been watching too much Star Wars? I chatted with him about his ideas and research to give you the information you need to decide.
Lee Billings: How can someone detect an exomoon?
David Kipping: Detecting exomoons is very similar to how astronomers detect exoplanets. The oldest way to try to find exoplanets is known as astrometry, which is basically just looking at stars very carefully and watching to see if they periodically wiggle and wobble about on the sky. If a star exhibits that periodic motion, that's an indication that there's a planet in orbit and tugging on the star. To look for a moon, we do the same thing, but we look at a planet instead of a star.
The way we can measure these wobbles is through the transits that we see when planets are fortuitously aligned with our line of sight. A transit lets us measure both the position and the velocity of a planet at that moment in time. So by repeating this measurement over and over, we can see if the planet's position or velocity is changing. If it is, then that means something is tugging at it, which could be a moon or an unseen perturbing planet.
LB: I'm guessing you can tell the difference?
DK: Oh yeah. There are two dovetailing measurements, transit-timing variation (TTV) and transit-duration variation (TDV). TTV just measures the instant that a transit occurs, which means it's very sensitive to the position of the transiting planet in its orbit. TDV, on the other hand, measures the length of the transit, which can give you the planet's velocity. If the planet is moving faster, its transit duration will be shorter, and vice versa. For moons, the velocity shift is always out of phase with the position shift. So we look for that phase shift by measuring both TTV and TDV.
It's just like a swinging pendulum: When the pendulum hits its lowest point, it's moving at its maximum velocity, and when it swings to the top, its highest position, it has a momentary velocity of zero. If we detect that pendulum-like short-period phase shift for a transiting planet, we know it's definitely caused by a moon and not something else.
LB: How did you come up with this idea?
DK: I had this idea in 2008, when I was working out models for the shapes of the light curves we might see from Kepler. I was studying this very carefully, thinking about the different properties we could measure for a transit and how reliable they were. And I realized you could see TTV without knowing necessarily what was causing it. I started imagining the Earth going around the Sun as if it were a transiting planet seen from far away, and it struck me that our Moon would have a big effect there, that the Moon's orbit would periodically pull our planet around and change its velocity, therefore changing the transit's duration. That led to the two papers I wrote where I proposed how to find exomoons.
LB: How important is Kepler for looking for exomoons?
DK: Kepler is the most precise instrument we have for this at the moment. I worked on a feasibility study for Kepler, to see how well it could do, how small of a moon we could detect. And we found that in the best-case scenario we can detect habitable-zone Earth-like moons down to about a fifth of the Earth's mass. A more realistic scenario might be targeting exomoons of about one Earth-mass. In that case, there are about 25,000 stars in Kepler's field of view that are bright enough to give us sufficient signal-to-noise so that we can look for such objects. If these sorts of large, Earth-like moons exist, we should be able to find some of them in the next year or two with Kepler.
LB: How do you assemble a target list for this? What assumptions do you make?
DK: We have to think very carefully about selecting targets. There are two competing tensions: Whether or not a moon could be present in the first place, and how easy a moon would be to detect. In terms of detecting a moon, you want shorter orbital periods that give you more transits per unit time, which allows you to see more events and build up better statistics. You also want puffy, low-density planets, planets that cast a big shadow but aren't too heavy. That combination would give you a big transit and also a bigger signal from any accompanying moon.
But in terms of a moon's probability of existence, short-period planets aren't where you'd prefer to look. For example, "hot Jupiters" are just no good; we wouldn't expect moons to be around them for dynamical reasons. It's like Mercury or Venus in our own solar system—we think they were too close to the Sun and its gravitational influence to keep any moons they may have had.
Planets with longer-period orbits, wider separations from their stars, should have better chances of harboring moons. We already know from radial-velocity searches that there are plenty of Jupiter- or Saturn-mass planets in the habitable zones of stars. These sorts of planets are out there. We just need to look at the ones that transit and try to find some moons.
For the new Kepler data release, the sweet spot would be big, low-density planets around lower-mass stars, K- or M-dwarfs, that have already displayed several transits. You'd get the enhanced perturbation from a big moon and you'd be getting enough data to feasibly work with, but since the stars don't have much mass, their gravitational influence is less, and the moons are less likely to have been ripped away before you can detect them. That's where we might find an exomoon in the near term.
It's looking good. There's a new interesting paper from Eric Ford, where he and his team have been doing transit-timing on all the new Kepler candidates. And they found that at least 12 percent of all planetary candidates for which transit-timing could reliably be detected are actually showing TTV. Which means that these candidates are being perturbed by something. Whether that's another planet, or a moon, we have to do more work to be sure.
LB: You're making it sound easy. It's not, right?
DK: There are lots of things that make this difficult. We prefer single, isolated candidates rather than ones in multi-planet systems, like the packed planets in Kepler-11, for example. The planet-planet gravitational interactions there make subsequent analysis harder, because you have to delete all those timing changes in search of any from a moon. We try to avoid candidates with eccentric orbits, because that can indicate disastrous early history filled with planet-scattering events that moons might not survive. Then there are variations in the co-planarity of the planet-moon system—how much they orbit in the same, shared plane can complicate your analysis. Some configurations will make it easier to discern the moon's gravitational tug, and others will hide it.
Analyzing these things takes time. A single candidate can take a month or more. We have to clean the data of spurious signals from cosmic-ray hits on Kepler's detectors and process it a few times to make sure the signals are robust. Then we generate a synthetic data set that doesn't have a moon in it, for example, and make sure we recover a null result. We have to do a lot of self-checking before we're sure anything we're seeing is real.
LB: Okay. So let's say you find a potentially habitable exomoon or two in the Kepler data. What then?
DK: Well, for most of the Earth-size planets we'll find in Kepler's field, it will be hard to really pin down their mass with radial-velocity measurements because their stars are so faint. It's not impossible but it's hard. And without their mass you don't know their density, which means we don't really know what these planets are made of. Moons, by contrast, automatically give you their mass and thus their density because they are detected through dynamic gravitational effects. So it's straightforward to say whether a moon is rocky or icy or gassy, whatever. That's important for quantifying habitability. And what it means is, we might learn more about small rocky bodies from studying Kepler's exomoons than from studying its exoplanets.
Unfortunately, as I said, almost all of Kepler's stars are quite faint, so it probably won't be feasible to look for atmospheric biosignatures like oxygen or methane or anything like that for Kepler's planets or moons. But if Kepler shows that plenty of moons are out there, the next-generation of transit surveys would be expected to find a certain fraction of moons orbiting transiting planets around nearby, bright stars. If a nearby exomoon has an orbital separation from its planet like the Earth and its Moon, it would be feasible to follow-up and look for biosignatures in that case using something like the James Webb Space Telescope.
LB: Right. Getting back to how you came up with this idea, imagining our solar system seen from afar, what planet-moon systems here could an alien astronomer see?
DK: The big two are the Earth-Moon system and Neptune's moon, Triton. For something like the Galilean moons of Jupiter, and even Saturn's moon Titan, the mass ratios are too small for us to currently detect, even when you add all the moons together. Kepler does have the photometric precision to detect Saturn's rings, though, and I think we'll find some ringed worlds with Kepler soon. But for the sorts of moons Jupiter and Saturn have, which are formed from the gaseous disk around their planets early in our solar system's history, that process seems to yield unfavorable planet-moon mass ratios.
Earth's moon is different. It's irregular. It formed from a Mars-sized impactor throwing debris around the primordial Earth. Triton is probably the remnant of a binary object that wandered too close to Neptune, where one of the objects got captured and the other got ejected from the solar system. For irregular cases like these, there's not really a mass limit, and you can imagine all sorts of odd configurations happening. The question is, are these moon-forming events rare or are they common? If they are common, I'm very hopeful that we'll find several exomoons with Kepler. But if it happens that the vast majority of moons form like the Galilean moons did, I think we'll need to wait for the next generation of space-based telescopes to find them.
The real point is, we still don't know how common rocky planets are in the habitable zone, let alone moons. It could conceivably be that there are more Earth-like moons in the universe than there are Earth-like planets, which, if true, gives a pretty different picture of what life might typically be like across the universe. This is so fascinating because no one has ever done it before. If we find an exomoon, that would open up an entirely new field of astronomy, just like the first detection of an exoplanet did.Discuss
25 Responses to "Stranger than fiction: The search for habitable exomoons"
Theophylact says:
Other early fictional inhabited gas-giant moons include Titan (in Heinlein's The Puppet Masters and Vonnegut's The Sirens of Titan), Triton (in Delany's novel of the same name), Jinx (in Niven's Known Space universe) and even the Earth (in Niven's A World Out of Time, it's been moved into orbit around Jupiter when the Sun heats up enough to make its present neighborhood uninhabitable).
DarthVain says:
Life maybe, but likely primitive, or not as we know it.
The obvious problem is large gas giants so far as I know typically exist outside the sweet spot of "habitable" zone. Thus any moon of a gas giant will likely be far enough away from the sun as to make it pretty damn cold. You would have better luck maybe finding ice microbes than any forests, unless they are composed of very different materials and processes that life as we know it exists. There is some thought that some of these moons, would be subject to large amounts of fluctuating gravity from orbiting such a massive object, and as such the constant squeezing and crushing could mean that they stay volcanic longer, and that this heat and gas productions might make life more habitable. Of course that is a pretty harsh environment by itself, let alone having to deal with the gravity itself.
So I would say, if forest moon's like endor's does exist I would suggest they are by far rarer than even ideal Earth type environments. While its wonderful to speculate we can only really extrapolate from what our current solar systems is composed of. Basically assume that our solar system is typical rather than atypical and go with that.
Lee Billings says:
Hi Darth,
Good news — we actually are talking about gas giants in the habitable zone. There were several such worlds known prior to Kepler's latest data release, though they don't transit, so they aren't suitable for the observations Kipping discusses. But now Kepler is finding these things by the dozen in the habitable zones of stars. And many of the planets it is finding — notably the "super-Earths" and "hot Neptunes" — have no analogs in our own solar system. So it may well be that our solar system is atypical in at least that way.
Anonymous says:
Does anyone know of a sky sim for exomoons?
The closest I've found is the recent what would other bodies look like in the place of our moon. It's easy enough to imagine you're on Europa with Jupiter filling the sky.
But what about the day/twilight/dark/night cycles on a planet orbiting a planet orbiting a star? Assuming you're not locked into a tidal orbit what type of sky would you experience through a rotational period around the planet?
Kimmo says:
Does anyone know of a sky sim for exomoons?
The closest I've found is the recent what would other bodies look like in the place of our moon. It's easy enough to imagine you're on Europa with Jupiter filling the sky.
But what about the day/twilight/dark/night cycles on a planet orbiting a planet orbiting a star? Assuming you're not locked into a tidal orbit what type of sky would you experience through a rotational period around the planet?
Celestia will do the job.
It's relatively straightforward to plug in whatever numbers you want, too.
DarthVain says:
of course using power armor and blasters and getting owned by care bears with sticks and rocks doesn't sound very competent either.
I always thought Ben was joking when he said "Look at this accuracy, these can only be done by imperial storm troopers."
In that it must have been like wild missing shots everywhere…
Xeno says:
I don't know why anyone isn't thinking about the social aspects of this but society would change dramatically (much less the effects it would have on our psyches) to live a somplace where the ENTIRE PLANET was is pitch blackness!
If the had a 24 hr rotation not too big of a deal (although hourly blackouts would take getting used to with the moons rotation) but if it was the size of jupiter, you would have the entire planet blacked out by the planet for a period of a couples days. This means no solar power and the planet getting colder and colder with each day (as we rely heavily on the sun for our weather).
Movies make it seem simple and fun but it's actually a far more complex thing when you take into account how a large astronomical body can have an effect on a smaller one. Moons would be hard to inhabit and it would be a tough life.
Anonymous says:
Interesting post, but it wasn't Ewoks and Endor that started the idea of habitable moons . . . try "Farmer in the Sky" by Heinlein, a nice 1950′s rendition of terraforming and colonising Ganymede.
Sapa says:
Looking for clues in the movement of planetary bodies is all well and good but personally I am not satisfied with present explanations for the precession of the equinoxes here on Earth. If our present explanations are wrong and we are in fact influenced by another large body then isn't it possible that wobbles in the movement of other bodies may be caused by factors that are not taken into consideration?
quitterjunior says:
Dear BoingBoing:
You get me laid. And I live in Texas…
jon_anon says:
Lee, thanks for the confirmation. It is simultaneously frustrating to think there might be a system very near by that this method would miss because of an orthogonal viewing angle, and uplifting to think that all these planetary discoveries (and the ones to come) are from the very slim proportion of systems whose orbital plane is oriented to match our line of sight.
I understand that a view from above or below the orbital plane allows us to see the 'wobble' better from the pull of nearby planets–but unless I'm mistaken this method will not allow us to detect earth-sized wobbles at earth-like orbits for the foreseeable future, with optical resolution being what it is, right?
Lee Billings says:
Actually, Jon, it's relatively straightforward to make those astrometric observations using a custom-built interferometric space telescope. NASA poured hundreds of millions of dollars into developing the technology to do this, and had planned to launch a space telescope called the Space Interferometry Mission (SIM, later downgraded to SIMLite) to survey nearby stars for planets.
But despite all that sunk cost, SIM failed to make the cut in the recent Decadal Survey, a high-level report from leaders in the US astronomy/astrophysics community that is meant to prioritize missions and lay out the near future of the field. That left a pretty important capability gap that planet-hunters are scrambling to fill. I wrote about this in a lot more detail in this recent Nature News feature article: http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110202/full/470027a.html
Check it out!
RedShirt77 says:
If titan has no life, I think we should take some there.
I mean and leave some sort of marker that lets the glow in the dark fish people that eventually evolve there that they were planted there by Aliens.
There version of the History Channel could run shows about us, like ours does about imaginary aliens.
Maggie Koerth-Baker says:
Sooooo … NASA should engage in interplanetary, long-term trolling?
RedShirt77 says:
Oh, that's a good idea too. Leave a DVD of Carrot Top's "Chairman of the Board" movie Sealed in resin so 100 million years down the line when they decode it, they will be completely fucked.
Brainspore says:
Such a discovery would raise so many questions. For example, would those aliens refer to exposed-ass-based taunts as "planeting?"
ColHapablap says:
Yavin IV, the Rebel base in the original Star Wars, was also a moon orbiting a gas giant (Yavin). I always wondered why they didn't just blow up the main planet with the Death Star, but instead went all the way around it to take out the one moon.
Yeah, now who's cool.
Anonymous says:
Total SW tangent (which is embarrassing because I am deeply interested in the primary topic, in fact it's why I clicked), but my sense is the Death Star could only blow up planets/moons of a certain size. Yavin, the main planet, was just too big.
This is merely a hunch based on the scenes we did see in Star Wars and not on any scientific data; just observable. Yavin seemed *much* bigger than Alderaan or Yavin IV; obviously, since it filled the screen and we never got to see the whole thing.
DarthVain says:
While not presuming to know the technology behind the DeathStar, I know having discussed before that the empire was more about fear than anything else. Sure blowing up a planet is pretty cool, but now you don't have a planet. All you really need to do is wipe out the population, which presumably would be a heck of a lot easier than blowing up a whole planet.
So while even if one planet is too big to blow up, surely it is at least enough to seriously f-up the population there. Unless it is an all or nothing weapon, it either blows up an entire planet or doesn't even nudge a kittens whisker… which I would say is a bit of a flaw in a galactic super weapon… just sayin'…
jon_anon says:
Hey Lee, thanks for these posts. Can Kepler and other transit-detecting approaches only detect planets if a system is edge-on to us? What percentage of systems are likely to present edge-on within the tolerance of this approach? If anyone was looking at our solar system from above or beyond its plane, they wouldn't detect anything, right?
I guess if I've understood this right it means that the results are even more positive, if they've managed to find so many planets in the small percentage of systems that just happen to be edge-on to us.
Lee Billings says:
Hi Jon, thanks for reading them!
A planetary system doesn't have to be exactly edge-on to us for us to detect some transits, but the window of orbital inclination deviations from edge-on is pretty narrow, within something like 5-10%.
Observers examining our solar system at an orthogonal angle to our general orbital plane wouldn't be able to see transits, no, but they would have the opportunity to see almost the full astrometric reflex motion of our Sun as its planets tugged it around in their orbits.
You have indeed understood the gist of things correctly: Only a fleeting fraction of planetary systems display transits for our line of sight. So this is just the tip of the iceberg, really. Planets are everywhere!
karl_jones says:
Never mind the exomoons — Jack Handey is worried about the Gas Giants:
Whether they ever find life there or not, I think Jupiter should be considered an enemy planet.
– Jack Handey
Sapa says:
I hope our trusted scientists don't leave any more signposts pointing to us like Carl Sagan did in the 70′s. They could be taken as invitations to partake in interstellar refreshment by aliens akin to the ones that Sigourny Weaver spent so much time keeping away from us in the Alien movies. Hopefully at least it would deter the builders of interstellar bypasses to make a detour around our little backwater.
I still think we first ought to look more seriously at contacts that have already taken place here at home.
angusm says:
I'd be curious to know what the effect of the radiation belts surrounding a giant planet would be an accompanying habitable moon. Are such belts typical to all Jovians and, if so, what proportion of its possible moons would be subject to radiation at levels harmful to life?
A giant planet might also be an uncomfortable neighbor in that it would draw any stray debris towards it, and its moons would probably stop some of the inbound matter (the moons of our own giants are heavily pitted with meteor impacts). A rain of rock and ice might be either a kickstarter or a killer as far as struggling early life (and even advanced life) was concerned.
It would be interesting to speculate on the effects on complex life (or culture) of other factors associated with a giant neighbor. If the moon orbited the giant in the plane of the ecliptic (which seems plausible), you'd probably get frequent eclipses, plus days when the giant was reflecting an extra dose of sunlight onto the 'night side' of the planet. And what if the moon was tidally locked to its giant parent? That would make things interesting.


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India is ready to throw down the gauntlet with the EU over a generic drug dispute that began in November 2009 when Dutch authorities seized a shipment from India bound for Brazil. Since then a resolution has
been hard to come by as reported by Reuters. India says it is ready to file with the World Trade Organization if an "amicable" settlement can't be reached.The seizures in question involve generic drugs not under patent any longer in India or to the destination country. The seizures occured in European countries through which the drugs were being transported purportedly in response to complaints by EU manufacturers.
India and Brazil feel mistreated by "rich nations" as two developing countries with rapidly growing markets - and not by coincidence burgeoning generic drug industries. India's Dr. Reddy's Laboratories and Ranbaxy Laboratories are among two of the fastest growing generic drug producers in the world. Some Medical Advocacy groups side with the emerging countries as they fear the disputes could lead to lack of access of drug's for poor nations.
The EU and India have been in trade negotiations since 2007. Trade between the two currently stands at 78 B euros and could mean another $9 B in exports for India if the two could ink a formal agreement. The US, crucial to any final deal, wants to see emerging nations like India and China open their markets to the West. The US is being looked to by participants to drive the negoitation to a conclusion. Stay tuned.
Posted by Bruce Lehr March 31st 2010.