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Disgusting Oatmeal Cookies!!!
I made the most awful ones yesterday. Followed the recipe on the oatmeal box, which is how I'm sure I've always made them. I haven't made them in about 5 years so can't remember for sure.
They were hard, didn't spread out at all and even though they tasted OK, a real disappointment. I'm used to a soft,chewy cookie. What could have gone wrong? I used Butter Flavored Crisco, and then the usual ingredients. Any helpful ideas?
I make that recipe non-stop. Normally, I only use 1/2 the call-ed for butter, and even though they don't spread quite as much nor are they quite as soft as the full fat version, they spread sufficiently and are plenty soft IF I DON"T OVERBAKE THEM. Two minutes too long and you get a brick-hard cookie (which I still eat w/ abandon).
So my first suspicion is you overbaked them. They should just barely start taking on golden color when you take them out, and they should still be slightly gooey in the middle. If they are already quite firm when you remove them from the oven, they will be WAY hard as they cool.
I'm not sure why you substituted Crisco, but since trans-fats are used to give baked goods a crispy, flakey snap (as well as longer shelf life), I would think that might have added to the hardness.
Also, if you used the instant oatmeal that looks more like flakes than rolled oats (as is called for in some oatmeal cookie recipes that IMO suck), that might affect the outcome as well. Further, if your raisins are dried out, that's bad. Soak them in very hot water for a bit first.
Better luck next time!
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When I started making oatmeal cookies again after several years, I couldn't remember what kind of oatmeal grandma used. Since I had both kinds, I used a mixture of both, and that's what i have stuck with. The old fasioned give it a nice chew, but using some instant seems to make the surrounding dough kind of soft and puffy, like getting the best of both worlds.
I also never measure the oats or chocolate chips, as per family tradition. You add oats until it looks and tastes right (as long as the dough isn't super-dry, they come out fine), and as to chocolate chips, you add either as many as you desire or as many as you have on hand :D
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The recipe called for vegetable shortening, hence the Crisco, and they weren't over baked. They stayed exactly as placed on the cookie sheet, so if I put them on as little balls, that's how they stayed.
Am trying again today. Have never before had a failure with Oatmeal Cookies. Maybe it was a fluke of some sort.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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Huh. Are you using the Quaker Oats Box? If it says vegetable shortening, I guess I never noticed. I always use butter in place of any recipe that calls for margarine or vegetable shortening. If it's not Quaker, then I guess my reply is not really applicable.
One other thought: was your oven fully pre-heated? That might account for the little balls not flattening out. I have had that occur (I'm the queen of small disasters), but I think it was when I got too aggressive in pushing the butter-reduction envelope.
Anyhow, good luck, and I'd love to know how it turns out.
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The original recipe calls for butter http://www.quakeroats.com/cooking-and...
Everything you describe suggests to me that there was too much flour in the dough - I'd take out a tablespoon or so. Personally I'd also use butter rather than Crisco but that's mainly a taste preference - the differences in texture wouldn't be that apparent in a cookie. Good luck with batch # 2.
One step that helps maintain consistent results in baking is weighing dry ingredients. It is also much simpler and less messy. Humidity, or lack thereof, can make a difference in the amount of flour used. Also, I find cookies come out "softer" when I use butter, a bit more firm with half butter/half shortening, and crisp when shortening is used (e.g. Snickerdoodles).
Good luck with the next batch!
Our standard recipe is a modified version of the "vanishing" cookies-which are far too along the crispy/crunchy end of the spectrum. We double the oats and halve the flour. We also always add far more goodies (pecans, raisins, dried apples, dried cherries, cranberries, etc) than the original Quaker dictates.
You are not imagining things. I have two box lids with 2 different oatmeal cookie recipes under the same name on them. It appears they changed their classic recipe some time this past year and I also find the results disgusting....a pasty, blah version of the original recipe. The 'old' recipe calls for 1 Cup margerine or butter, 1 cup packed brown sugar, 1/2 cup granulated sugar, then bake 10-12 min. The rest is the same. I usually substitute the butter with 1 cup butter flavored Crisco.
I can only guess that Quaker has taken upon themselves to dictate how we should make our cookies more healthful instead of flavorful.....a move I don't appreciate AT ALL!
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what are the changes to the new recipe? I noticed it now called for 2 tbs less butter, but I didn't notice any other changes. thanks...guess I better write down the old one before I forget. FWIW, though, I think leaving out some of the butter is a plus, but I can't imagine monkeying with anything else.
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I find it amazing they keep changing the recipe! My recipe is based on the one from maybe the 70's, calls for 3/4 cup of crisco (I now use 1/2 cup of butter + 1/4 cup of oil), 1 egg, 1 cup brown sugar, 1/3 or 1/2 cup of sugar ( I use 1/4 cup), 1/4 cup of water, vanila, baking soda, 1 cup of flour and 3 cups of oats. Plus I add a cup each of chocolate chips, raisens, and walnuts.
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I have been using that same recipe for years! I tried using butter, but the cookies would spread out like flat pancakes, due to the faster melting-point. Actually, I do love this old recipe! I add 1 tsp. cinnamon, 1/2 tsp cloves and 1/2 tsp nutmeg. I also like to add 1 cup walnuts... For some odd reason, I do not like adding raisins unless they are chopped up first! Sometimes, for reasons I am not certain, my cookies will spread out flat! I am wondering if I should weigh out the flour or test my baking soda? So random!
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re: openeyed
The website has at least three different recipes that are very close to each other with the exceptions of three different levels of butter. Having made the version with less butter, I can imagine the more butter version being older and much better. Could also use a bit more salt.

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According to a 2009 poll, around 1% of American adults reported eating no animal products. In 2011 that number rose to 2.5%--more than double, but still dwarfed by the 48% who reported eating meat, fish or poultry at all of their meals. In this country, most of us are blessed with an abundance of food and food choices. So taking into account our health, the environment and ethical concerns, which diet is best? Are we or aren't we meant to be carnivores?
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Gene Baur, President and Co-founder of Farm Sanctuary, has been hailed as "the conscience of the food movement" by Time magazine. Since the mid-1980s, Gene has traveled extensively, campaigning to raise awareness about the abuses of industrialized factory farming and our system of cheap food production. His book, Farm Sanctuary: Changing Hearts and Minds About Animals and Food (2008), a national bestseller, is a thought-provoking investigation of the ethical questions surrounding beef, poultry, pork, milk, and egg production. It describes what each of us can do to promote compassion and help stop the systematic mistreatment of the billions of farm animals who are exploited for food in the United States every year.
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Chris Masterjohn pursued a career in health and nutrition after recovering from health problems he developed as a vegan by including high-quality, nutrient-dense animal foods in his diet. He earned a PhD in Nutritional Sciences from the University of Connecticut in 2012 and currently researches the physiological interactions between fat-soluble vitamins A, D, and K at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. He has published six peer-reviewed publications and has submitted one manuscript for review. He also writes two blogs. The first, The Daily Lipid, is hosted on his web site, Cholesterol-And-Health.Com. The second, Mother Nature Obeyed, is hosted by the Weston A. Price Foundation at westonaprice.org. The opinions expressed in this debate are his own and do not necessarily represent the positions of the University of Illinois.
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My father was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin ten years ago. The doctors told him he would need chemotherapy in three years, again in eight years, and his average life expectancy would be twelve years.
He switched to a whole foods, plant based diet after seeing 'Forks over Knives.' We as a family were upset. We loved meat and ate it almost every meal.
My father is thriving, and has not needed chemotherapy even once. At this rate he could live to be a hundred. I was highly skeptical until I saw the results. I decided to become vegetarian.
It was hard for me. I had always been the one quick to point out that 'vegetarian' was a Native American word for 'Bad Hunter.' After many attempts I realized how addicted I was to meat. Eventually I cut out everything but fish. Now I'm full-on veg and feeling better than ever.
I'm an extremely skeptical person. I have subscription to Skeptic Magazine AND Scientific American. But I can't fault the science or the results. Go veg. It's difficult, I know. You, like me, are addicted to meat. When you eat it, it dulls your taste to other flavors. Trust me though, it's well, well, well worth the investment.
Also, pretty much all non-rodent mammals are sentient. (And I'm not counting out rats and non-mammals by any means) So if you are a moral person who thinks that we should treat sentient Aliens morally, if follows we should treat animals the same way.
To EJ Diaz,
You're arguments are even more invalid than those you try to revoke. To your point that everything has carcinogens, that is like saying that the sun and an enriched rod of uranium-235 have the same effect on your health because their both radioactive, the point is meat has far MORE carcinogens which lead to the health concerns mentioned in the debate such as heart disease. Also there is adequate scientific evidence to support that arterial degradation occurs based on meat consumption that factored in other variables like overall diet. Also veganism has been documented as early as the 5th century A.D. practices by yogis in China, who thrived based on the diet despite their ethnic differences between the contemporary Anglo-Saxon descendants who adopted the practice. Also reinvention of a dietary practice is anti-evolutionary? Would you also say that the polar bears change in diet faced with shrinking ice caps is also anti-evolutionary, because I think you might not know what evolution is.
It was an enlightening debate.
Here's what I learned about the vegan position in contrast to the omnivore position:
Close-minded: Inherent in the title is "[no one] should eat anything with a face". There's no room for omnivores.
Anti-evolution: Imposing a one-diet-fits-all model even though it is unnatural for our evolutionary system based on
VARIATION. Yet, with no historical or anthropological evidence, the vegans assume that all peoples everywhere will
have the same nutritional needs genetically. Wishful thinking.
Ethno-centric: Not every culture has access to the vast array of pills, powders and produce that wealthy westerners
take for granted.
Weak science: Fallacy's abound! Avoid meat because it has carcinogenic elements? Bollocks. False-dichotomy.
Carcinogens are everywhere. Toast is carcinogenic! The question is, do the benefits of a particular food/diet
outweigh the carcinogens that you will ingest regardless? And that overly-simplistic blame-meat story of the
patient with bad arteries, not a word about his overall diet. Interesting. Also, no historical/anthropological
evidence that veganism even works long-term because there has been no documented culture that has ever been purely
vegan for generations. And there are no farming methods of significance to point to either, unless you count the 2
vegan farms mentioned, the older one having been around for a mere 3 decades. *sigh* No tangible, long-term working
models; only theories.
This shoddy evidence seems more an excuse to simply promote their ethic, "killing animals is wrong". Of course it's
noble, but this is not a position empirically provable with science. It is ultimately a BELIEF.
So ...
In short, the vegans use weak scientific arguments to promote a belief system that is ultimately close-minded,
anti-evolution and ethno-centric.
WOAH! Is it just me or does that sound familiar?
I don't know what's more alarming, that such faulty belief systems get a pass, or that they were able to convert
the audience with their rhetoric and come away the winners in the debate (even though the opposition had an open-
minded, pro-evolution, non-ethnocentric position with solid current, historical and anthropological evidence: a
working model farm based on millennia of farming tradition, Weston Price's multicultural research highlighting the
benefits of an omnivore diet, and an ethic that treats animals as sacred in the harmonious way of the Native
An enlightening debate, indeed.
Compassion is delicious! FOR THE MOTION!! xxx
The research the vegetarians presented are false. Meat does not cause heart disease as proof that I am a paleo dieter, eat meat at every meal, eat lots of butter and cheese, and yet I lose weight AND have reduced my cholesterol levels.
The studies mentioned did not take into account carbohydrate intake, which causes inflammation.
I grew up in South America, Buenos Aires, and as it is a huge meat eating country, so did we eat dead corpses which would be barbecued on the huge grill under our pool I never thought anything of it well into my older years... I became veggie in my 30's but still did not see the link that animals have souls, have the same organs, blood, feelings, emotions etc as we do. It's only by seeing films like earthlings.com and meet your meat, and listening to Phillip Wollen that helps educate one towards a more compassionate way of living.... to me a dog is a cat is a cow is a chicken, all animals feel pain, and as ex rancher The Mad Cowboy Howard Lyman turned vegan says... Sure, certain methods of production are more 'humane' than others, but never forget, there's no such thing as humane slaughter. I never saw an animal clicking its heels going to the slaughterhouse, saying, "Yippee, skippy, I'm going to be a McDonald's burger tomorrow!" There is always fear in their eyes. They know exactly what's going to happen"... Giving up meat or cutting it down is kinder all round as mostly everyone is beginning to learn these days!
Dr. Barnard and Mr. Salatin provided the better arguments of the night, however I was not swayed from any party. We kill local plants when we mass farm, therefore ecologically we are morally corrupt. We can not study all human life and diet, so any study could and should only pertain to the United States, and the ethnic diversity would still be an issue. To be truly Vegan, moral, and sustainable we would need to eat localized plant life only. True, maybe we should not all eat meat, but at the same time NO ONE has the perfect diet and we all are different.
absolutely brilliant carnivores. beautiful, rational argument by darwin's top tier species. like it or not, we're at the top of the food chain.
social justice? oh, you're in that crazy crowd. imagining injustices, usually, to justify stealing taxpayer property. it always boils down to justification for stealing private property, or blaming someone else for someone else's lot in life.
i have respect for my ancestors- they ate meat and we evolved bigger brains and smaller guts.
I am encouraged by some of the comments, and I'm also saddened by others. "wow" said to "let the human animal live the way it evolved to"? This same person argued that superior intellect came from eating meat. The sentence he wrote did not even make sense or make a complete thought.
Quite honestly, I came to this debate with an open mind. Clearly, the side for the motion was better prepared with science and evidence, and presented a much clearer and stronger case for the motion. There was little question in my mind that you could make a case that eating other animals was healthier for you, and no there is absolutely no doubt. Do a little research outside this debate, ask your doctor, read the resources available. All point to a meat free diet.
Very interesting debate. I came in believing that a vegan diet can and is a very healthy diet and I believe that one day I will switch to it. But I feel that the work that Joel Salatin was over looked by those arguing in favor of the proposition. I like the philosophy of his farm and approach, building his farm around an ecosystem and wish there were more studies around the overall impact of his ecosystem solution on the environment and human health. I was not overly persuaded by Gene, he kept correctly pointing out that most of our meat comes from factory farms but then compared that with local organic produce where most of our vegetables do not come from. Both sides made points but weren't always arguing the same thing.
Great job from all participants, including the moderator. Great to see both sides represented well and personally, I'm pleased that the majority of the people sided with the Vegan argument. It's difficult to debate against the motion on the health, environmental, and ethical positions of Veganism. This was an enjoyable debate.
Your show should be called Intelligence Run Amok. None of you would even be here if it weren't for Meat. What do you think got the brain activity beyond foraging for berries? What a waste of man power. If there are any left.
Gill Jacobs, what do you mean by "sentimentalizing" animals? All lives are precious. Of course lions can't be vegetarians. They are obligatory carnivores. Human beings are not. I wouldn't judge you or anyone for eating meat, but it IS possible to be healthy on a plant-based diet.
Heard today on WNYC, Feb 1, 2014.
My experience is similar to other commentaries: many meat eaters are angry and dismissive about vegetarian diets rather than the reverse. (And tend to make bazaar equivalencies such as the comment about killing microbes - just beyond the beyond.)
Stating that growing plant food uses more resources pound for pound than growing meat - an outright lie, by any standards.
For me, nothing is more offensive than specious reasoning and gross generalizations.
Joel Salatin:
1) (All)Science is subjective. Wrong. Not every study manipulates the data to conform to the hypothesis.
2) Vegetarians have increased dental decay. Wrong. See NIH and Mayo Clinic.
3) Forward facing eyes indicate a species are carnivorous. Wrong. Current thinking is this type of eye placement developed in animals living in cluttered (leaves, bushes, etc.) environments. Consider predators without this eye structure: killer whales, orcas, crocodiles, mongooses, tree shrews, snakes…
4) Going philosophical? could "…trade dead bodies and thin people and heart attacks all night"… what?
5) Re Jesus and Mohammad eating meat – when speaking of religion, one should always keep the historic setting in mind. In Jesus' and Mohammad's time, women were chattel, slavery was the norm, the husband could impregnate another woman if his wife is infertile (the issue was never his infertility), and so on.
6) Not mentioned: herbivores have longer digestive tract for processing plant material. Carnivores have short digestive tracts. http://dujs.dartmouth.edu/fall-2010/turning-waste-into-food-cellulose-digestion
After reading an article that moved me, I am embarking on a vegan diet.
I am not a Buddhist, but came across this across article.
All it needs is compassion.
Imagine you stepping on a nail, now imagine what a lobster feels when you dunk it in boiling water.
They scramble relentlessly trying to get out.
Now, the following story here made me think.
One day while cooking an eel in boiling water, this man noticed that this eel kept arching it's body out of the boiling water, but kept it's head and tail stuck to the bottom of the scorching pot. The eel eventually succumbed to death, and it's entire body just sank in. When the man cut the eel open, he found lots of eggs inside. Which tells us that animals are quite intelligent and aware of death and will do anything to save their offspring.
Also, the death of my dogs devastated me. My love for them made me realize that all animals feel love and pain, so this also greatly influenced me into eating clean for the body and spirit.
We,the human animal, can make choices.
That is the difference from other predators.
It is proven, that vegetarians live longer and a healthier life.
It just takes a little time to research how satisfying and tasty vegetarian dishes can be.
You will not miss meat and feel great.
When Joel Salatin mentioned Jesus and Mohammed, as wise and as sources of moral that should predict today's environmental questions, he COMPLETELY lost any credibility that he had left in this debate.
I wonder if the panelist FOR the motion (as well as those who voted for the motion) are philosophically consistent and think that an abortion is immoral on the same grounds used in this debate. The two issues may seem unrelated, but each time the team spoke about the moral reasons why killing animals is wrong, I kept feeling like I was hearing echo's of people who would be making a pro-life argument (central nervous system, can feel pain, there are other alternatives, etc)
1. if we stop artificially inseminating animals, there won't be so many.
2. i would ask the pro-eating animal side- would you kill the animal that you were eating before each meal? literally, go outside in the morning, kill the pig and then make it into "sausage", the for lunch, go outside, kill a chicken for your chicken "salad", etc.? why pay someone else to do your dirty work?
3. the conditions and danger of the workers in the factory farms is atrocious. and most are immigrants. americans don't want to do that job.
4. i to would ask the pro-animal eaters, would you murder your cat, and then go get another one, and then murder them? or your dog if you have a dog instead? what's the difference, really? to call one a pet and the other dinner is a huge disconnect. intelligence is the ability to make connections.
I heard this debate only on January 2, 2014, via a local NPR affiliate. For a debate beginning with both sides opposing "factory farming," the losing side missed an opportunity to make a key point against vegan agriculture. Namely this: If so-called factory farming is identical to "industrial agriculture," then how is vegan agriculture any different from industrial agriculture or today's version of commercial organic agriculture, both of which rely on food trucked hundreds or thousands of miles? The only true local agriculture--resilient agriculture--is that which regenerates its own fertility forever, and has the smallest possible carbon footprint. As Joel Salatin effectively argued (especially when mentioning the work of Allan Savory), grazing animals, their hoof action and their manure are key components of local foods systems. In short, animals are part of our ecosystem and must be factored in per the contributions they provide. The question, then, is how to do so in the most humane way possible. A animal sanctuary implies merely a kinder gentler zoo.
Robert R. Fiske states "As much as we like to 'think' we can 'think our way' into a new role in the ecosystem, I find it mainly audacious and a bit silly of us to try to believe that."
As a species we not only thought our way into a new role in the ecosystem, we have achieved it already. We are the only species that has reproduced to an unsustainable level and in so doing we are destroying life on earth.
What is audacious and a bit silly Robert, is to believe that we can continue on this path of destruction indefinitely. The United Nations has stated that a global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger and the worst impacts of climate change.
The enormous weight of suffering that animals endure in meat and dairy production is important and most people do indeed put a higher moral value on sentient beings than they do on vegetables, moulds and yeasts! Shame on you, Robert.
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American College of Physicians
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Womens Forum: To Err is Human
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Enhancing Patient Satisfaction
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Tick-Borne Diseases in Wisconsin: Clinical Update and Practice Pearls
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The Challenge of Obesity in America: Options for Medical Treatment
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Woodward, Okla. —
CLINTON - Woodward finished play in the I-40 Baseball Classic with a 3-0 win over Elk City Saturday morning.
Francisco Alvarez tossed his third shutout of the season and struck out 16. He allowed just 2 hits and walked 5.
Woodward pieced together runs in the first, third and fourth innings.
Garrett Hines ripped a 2-out double in the first inning and scored on a single by Troy Reddoch to give the Boomers a 1-0 lead.
In the second, the Boomers made it 2-0 as Kade Marlatt singled and later scored an error.
The final run came in the fourth inning when Marlatt was hit by a pitch and eventually scored on another error.
The Boomers had other chances, leaving 2 runners on in the third inning and then bases loaded in the sixth.
Lane Reazin had a triple in the seventh inning but was stranded.
Alvarez was in control most of the way, striking out a batter in every inning and striking out the side in the fourth and sixth frames.
Elk City put runners on second and third with one out in the fourth before a pair of strikeouts ended thinning.
In the seventh, the Elks advanced a runner to third but he was erased at home plate.
Earlier in the tournament, the Boomers lost 4-0 to Sayre and defeated Cordell 5-3. A four-run sixth inning sparked the Boomers past Cordell as Garrett Hines singled, Alvarez doubled, Kyler Ferguson tripled and Reddoch homered. Ferguson was the winning pitcher.
The Boomers will take an 8-10 record into a busy week as they host Shattuck on Monday at 4:30 p.m., Perryton, Texas on Tuesday at 4:30 p.m. then go to the Kingfisher portion of the Piedmont-Kingfisher Tournament. On Thursday, the Boomers face Putnam City West at 12:30 p.m. and Hennessey at 3 p.m. They play Kingfisher at 7 p.m. on Friday and the placement games are Saturday.
Woodward's softball team, coming off a consolation championship in the Arnett Tournament, also has a busy schedule this week.
The Boomers go to Pioneer on Monday and to Mooreland on Tuesday to play the Bearcats and Fairview. On Thursday, the Boomers go to the 35-team Best of the West Tournament in Weatherford where they will play Hollis at 3:15 p.m.


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The third-largest U.S. supermarket operator is setting up stations in its produce, meat and deli departments that feature the fixings for fast, easy, home-cooked meals that can feed a family of four for less than $15.
"Research shows that most people don't know at 4 o'clock what they are having for dinner that night, and in many cases, these hurry-up meals result in less-than-balanced and more expensive food choices," said Jim Smits, Supervalu's group vice president of fresh foods merchandising.
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Martin O'Neill has been confirmed as the new manager of Sunderland, taking over from Steve Bruce on a three-year contract.
The 59-year-old, who has previously managed Leicester, Celtic and Aston Villa, is expected to watch his new team from the stands as they visit Stoke ahead of his job officially starting on Monday.
O'Neill is vastly experienced and has a strong reputation in the game, with his most recent achievement being to steer Aston Villa to three successive sixth-place finishes in the Barclays Premier League between 2008 and 2010.
"I hope I can help Sunderland to a very successful period - that's what I've come for"
- Martin O'Neill
He enjoyed successful spells at Leicester City and Celtic - winning domestic honours and securing European qualification with both.
"It's a very nice feeling to be back in football and to be the manager of Sunderland. It's a big moment for me," said O'Neill.
"I'd heard about what a good club it was but coming here, seeing the stadium and training ground, I've been bowled over. It's absolutely fantastic.
"I hope I can help Sunderland to a very successful period. That's what I've come for and that's my driving ambition."
Prior to his spell at Villa, O'Neill spent five years at Celtic, winning three SPL titles, three Scottish Cups and a League Cup, as well as taking the Bhoys to the 2003 UEFA Cup Final.
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Two Justice Department officials have stepped down in the wake of a report issued Wednesday detailing the agency-wide failures involved in the Fast and Furious operation, according to a statement by Attorney General Eric Holder.
Kenneth Melson, the former acting director at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, announced his retirement, effective immediately. He had worked for the Justice Department for more than 30 years but stepped down from the position of acting ATF director last August. In the inspector general's report, investigators called Melson's oversight of Fast and Furious "deficient."
Holder also announced he has accepted the resignation of Justice's Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein. His career had spanned 15 years, including posts in Baltimore and New York. The IG's report identified Weinstein as one of the highest-ranking officials with detailed knowledge of the operations and cited him for not bringing to light the "inappropriate tactics" used in them.
Holder praised his former deputy.
"Jason has dedicated much of his career to fighting violent crime and has led highly successful efforts around the country in this effort," Holder said in a statement. "The American people are safer because of his work."
Holder said the other individuals cited for wrongdoing have been "referred to the appropriate entities for review and consideration of potential personnel actions."
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Pittsburg State's defense limited Avila to six points in the first 17 minutes of the second half and pulled away for a 65-41 victory Saturday in the Pizza Hut/Fairfield Inn Thanksgiving Classic at Missouri Southern's Leggett & Platt Athletic Center.
The Gorillas shot 46 percent (25-of-55) from the floor while Avila was at 29 percent (15-of-51, including 4-of-20 in the second half).
Sophomore forward Lizzy Jeronimus, who popped in 29 points in the Gorillas' victory over Evangel on Friday night, netted 16 points to lead the Gorillas and was named the tournament's most valuable player. Guard Drew Roberts scored 15 points, and center Lauren Brown had 12 points, nine rebounds and three blocked shots and also made the all-tournament team.
"It's a good weekend," Gorillas coach Lane Lord said. "We won two games, and we got to see some combinations that we needed to see in games. But it looked like we hadn't played in two weeks. I thought we got a little bit better (Saturday) but we have a long way to go to be a championship basketball team.
"We probably played too many people both days, but this is the time of year to do that and see what kids can do and can't do and what we need to work on. We got a lot out of the weekend."
The Gorillas play host to William Jewell at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday.
Psu men 73, Southwestern 60
PITTSBURG, Kan. — The Gorillas pulled away in the second half to claim the nonconference win against the Moundbuilders of Winfield in John Lance Arena.
PSU (4-1) led only 35-34 at the half. It took its first double-digit lead at 53-43 with 11:13 left in the contest. The lead slipped to seven before the Gorillas constructed a 12-point lead.
The biggest advantage for PSU was 15 at 73-58 with 1 1/2 minutes left.
Kaleb Porter, whose accuracy from 3 was 3-for-5, scored 17 points for PSU and Javon McGee snared 15 rebounds and tallied.
The Gorillas also received double-figure scoring from Courtney Ingram with 13.
Southwestern (8-3) was paced in scoring by William Tisdale (16) and Taylor Johnson (15). Tisdale added seven boards.
PSU held a slight advantage shooting from the field — 42.6 percent to 41.7 — and led 41-30 in rebounding. The Gorillas sank 16 of 25 free throws to 11 of 20 by Southwestern.
Southwestern, which overall hit nine of 23 treys, shot only 28.6 percent from the floor in the second half.
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THE ISSUE: Howard County's annual Military Appreciation Days observance.
OUR VIEW: We join more than 60 local businesses in saluting our family members and neighbors who served in the U.S. military.
On Sunday — Nov. 11 — America will honor its military veterans, past and present. The tradition started in 1919.
President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Nov. 11 a day of "solemn pride in the heroism of those who died in the country's service and with gratitude for the victory" in World War I.
This past Saturday, Kokomo and Howard County started observing Military Appreciation Days through Nov. 12. Recently retired Howard County Veteran Services officer Bob Ladd once said it's the only celebration of its kind in the state.
Military Appreciation Days is the brainchild of Rick Riddle, the one-time manager of Kokomo's Golden Corral restaurant, who just relocated to Evansville. The restaurant chain began serving free meals to veterans 11 years ago. It will again from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Nov. 12. It's called Military Appreciation Monday.
The Kokomo Golden Corral served 1,600 free meals to veterans four years ago, and neighboring Half Moon Restaurant and Brewery joined in the observance.
That's when Riddle decided he could help make the observance even bigger.
This week, more than 60 Howard County businesses – from restaurants, auto dealers and photography studios to jewelers and hairstylists – will offer discounts for veterans. Last year, 70 businesses participated.
About 8,000 Howard County residents are military veterans, according to the local Disabled American Veterans chapter. We join the Golden Corral, Half Moon Restaurant and Brewery and the other participating businesses in thanking our family members and neighbors who served in the U.S. military.
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Heat will intensify into the Pacific Northwest with mostly dry conditions.
It's a wet morning on the New York state throughway with showers and storms from Albany to Buffalo.
A cluster of showers and storms in the Central Atlantic could organize into Bertha before the end of the week.
Why is the weather within the eye of a hurricane usually clear and calm?
Pleasant conditions for Monday night game at Citi Field.
Residents in Lexington were busy Sunday afternoon cleaning up after a storm that brought down trees and damaged homes.
Heavy storms will continue tonight from the Northeast to the Tennessee Valley, with another round of heavy storms expected Monday.
Triple-digit heat swept over the Sooner State on Saturday hospitalizing five people with heat-related illnesses.
Severe thunderstorms left thousands without power in the Midwest Saturday and will track east into the mid-Atlantic on Sunday.
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Gyeongju, South Korea -- Gyeongju City contain a remarkable concentration of outstanding examples of Korean Buddhist art, in the form of sculptures, reliefs, pagodas, and the remains of temples and palaces from the flowering of this form of unique artistic expression. The ruins of Hwangnyongsa, the Temple of the Yellow Dragon, have provided a wealth of archaeological data.
Seoul, Korea -- The famed Bulguksa in Gyeongju province, South Korea, an UNESCO World Heritage site houses Korea's National Treasure No. 21, the famed three-storied stone pagoda, Seokatap.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Italian archaeologists say they have discovered a cemetery that reveals complex funeral rites dating back more than 3,000 years in Swat valley.
Seoul, South Korea -- Bulguksa temple in Kyeongju, Korea is a UNESCO World Heritage site and literally means the "The Temple of Buddha's Country." Here in the center courtyard, two pagodas, known as the Dabotap and Seokgatop stand in grandeur. The two pagodas symbolize the incarnations of Buddha.
The Grand Opening of The 2011 Millennial Anniversary of The Tripitaka Koreana on September 23rd in Gyeongsangnam-do, Korea
SEOUL, South Korea -- The opening of the 2011 Millennial Anniversary of the Tripitaka Koreana on September 23rd in Hapcheon, Gyeongsangnam-do, Korea, will offer a rare opportunity to appreciate the actual blocks of the Tripitaka Koreana, recognized as the world's best woodblocks of the Buddhist scriptures.
Seoul, South Korea -- Buddha never left any written texts of his own, but over thousands of years his teachings have been transcribed through ancient scrolls, like this one.
Seoul, South Korea -- A travel diary by an 8th-century Korean monk is in Korea for the first time, a full 1,282 years after it was penned. Currently owned by the National Library of France, the manuscript is exhibited on temporary loan to the National Museum of Korea.
TOKYO, Japan -- A pledge by Japan to hand over cultural artefacts from the Korean peninsula's last dynasty has been welcomed in South Korea -- particularly by a monk who spent four years trying to make it happen.
SEOUL, South Korea -- An 8th-century book written by a Korean Buddhist monk after traveling in India and Central Asia will be temporarily brought home from France, where the book has been preserved since its rediscovery in 1908, a museum said Tuesday.
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Dorothy G. Clow
STAMFORD — Dorothy G. Clow, 64, lifelong Stamford area resident, passed away peacefully at home, Friday, March 22, 2013.
She was born May 25, 1948, in Stamford, the daughter of Michael and Jennie (Hallock) Swart.
A homemaker, "Dot" enjoyed gardening, the woods and mountains, music, western movies, and loved cats.
Surviving are her longtime love and companion, Gordon Roe; two daughters, Linda Clow and Brenda Lane; a stepson, Kenny Clow; four grandchildren, Justin, Brittney, Jonathan and Tyrell; three brothers, David Swart, Roland Swart and Frank Hallock; and nieces and nephews.
Predeceased were her husband, Kenneth Clow; two sisters, Bonnie Banks and Deborah Dixon.
Visitation: 1 p.m. Tuesday, March 26, followed by funeral services, 2 p.m. at Stamford Baptist Church, with the Rev. Waylen Bray, officiating.
Contributions to Heart of the Catskills Humane Society, Box 88, Delhi, appreciated.
Arrangements entrusted to Hall-Tari Funeral Home, Stamford, under the direction of William A. Tari.


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---- — BEULAH — Tax foreclosure on a lakefront home valued near $800,000 could be a "windfall" for Benzie County.
A Crystal Lake home at 7189 Crystal Drive in Benzonia Township was foreclosed in April because Huntington Bank failed to pay more than $25,000 in taxes, County Treasurer Michelle Thompson said.
The home sits on 100 feet of lake frontage and is valued at $760,000, Thompson said. It will be auctioned in August unless it's purchased by the state, county or township.
Money eventually could flow to the county's general fund if the house is auctioned for more than its value, Thompson said. A spokesman for the Michigan Department of Treasury said proceeds first go into a delinquency account. The balance can be transferred to a county's general fund in the second calendar year following foreclosure.
"We've never, ever had enough money where we needed to know what the next steps were," Thompson said. "This one on Crystal Lake is kind of an oddity."
Benzie County businessman Terry Money said vacant lots on Crystal Lake sell for at least $400,000. He referenced a 100-foot lot that auctioned for that price four or five years ago.
"This home has been remodeled and there are additions on it," Money said. "Bottom line is it's a windfall ... it's an extremely valuable property."
Thompson said she's seen 50 feet of lake frontage sell for $200,000.
"And some of those had railroad beds and streets going in the middle of them, and some of them have the trail. They're still that desirable," she said.
Thompson did not know why Huntington Bank didn't pay taxes. Huntington received seven notices dating back to 2011, she said.
"It's kind of an odd thing in general for the county to foreclose on such a large parcel," Thompson said."Twenty-five thousand dollars worth of taxes versus $760,000 of value, you can generally come up with that money."
"Huntington intends to work with the county to address questions about the property, and has no further comment at this time," said bank spokesman Brent Wilder.
Thompson said the Crystal Lake property is among 18 foreclosed parcels this year, the county's highest number yet.
"In these troubled times with all the foreclosures going on, our county staff and treasuer are doing a really good job," Money said.
The Crystal Lake property and others will be auctioned Aug. 7 at the Little River Casino Resort in Manistee and will include online bidding.


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Lavandin, Grosso - Organic
- Botanical Name: Lavandula hybrida
- Origin: France
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@tqh2013 said: Hey guys,
Dealer here in Southern California is trying to sell me an alarm for Civic EX for $700. What is the difference between the "Security System with Remote Entry" and an alarm. I looked up Honda.com and "Security System with Remote Entry" is standard on EX. The Security System and alarm is the same to me. Not what is the difference and if the dealer is pulling my chains. Any help is appreciated.
If you do not want an aftermarket alarm, do not buy it - tell the dealer to provide you a unit without an alarm or go to a different dealer. Who is the dealer? Knowing what dealer is doing this will help the rest of us SoCal shoppers.
Thanks, Bill G
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I'm looking to lease and like the civic lx 2013, no dealer add-ons. MSRP was 19,755. Initial deal was a special of 2k down and 159/month (excluding ttl, and I think excl destination?). I am new to leasing so a lot of the numbers are confusing to me, but would love some input.
In the end, they quoted 195 including tax (excluding title, license),
I have a trade in valued at $500 Would put $500 cash down (though I'd rather not put anything down).
The money factor was .00011 (I think).
They discounted the MSRP to 17,600 (something like that); Residual Value: around 11,280.
It's in las vegas, so the sales tax is 8.1%. the $500 down would cover first month and 197 left is cap cost reduction (I think that's how they got down to 17,600, but honestly I can't remember all of the numbers, so it could be more than 17,600).
And frankly, I didn't want to put any money down -- I still think they valued my trade too low -- kbb is 1341, edmunds is 1140 (something around there), so I was hoping to get closer to 1000 for it as a trade in and not put any money down. It's a 1997 nissan maxima GLE with 78k miles in ok cosmetic shape, but still runs great and is very low mileage wise -- I just want a nicer car.
Is this a good deal?
I'd like to get it down closer to 180 including tax (I'm from LA and just visiting family in Vegas, so I would register it in LA, and tax there is 9%, though I'd be fine with a paying the difference for LA and having it be a bit over 180). They also told me the money factor is .00065 in LA -- this confused me -- why can't I use the money factor where I lease instead of where I register? Is it because the tax is based on where I live/garage the car? Or...?
Is 165-170 plus ttl doable?
What is a good lease deal at this point?
@tqh2013 said: gmanusmc,
The place i visited was Honda cars of Corona. They also tried to sell me a package with wheel lock, mud-guard, trunk tray for $800. I told them thank you and walked out.
Good job - don't blame you - those things can be bought for a fraction of that (if you want them, that is)
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@hmmhmm3 said: $16.1k seems ridiculously low. One VA dealer I called that I know sold for $17k is refusing to give a quote online or via phone. Is demanding an inperson visit for a quote.
Some of the so called "Prices Paid" numbers in forums such as this one can be a bit...well..." enthusiastic" Be aware of that!
Just bought a 13 Civic Lx sedan here in the Bay Area, CA.
18,300 out the door w/ tax, title, licensing, etc.
Breakdown of the fees include:
- Purchase Price of car (w/ dest) 16,338
- Document Fee: 80
- Tire Tax: 8.75
- Sales Tax 9%
Total: 18300 OTD
This included the dealer-installed options: edge guard film, mud guards, wheel locks, and a aftermarket Karr alarm.
Financed through Honda at 4.5%. Didn't get lowest rate due to credit. But very happy with price.
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bought a New 2013 Honda Civic EX-L Navi 4DR Sedan for $20,800 -$500 Honda Incentive= $20,300 + Tax $1450.00 +Doc Fee $250.00 +$50.00 Licence Fee= $22,100.00 OTD price from Honda Marrysville Dealer,Ohio.
2013 Honda Civic EX-L Navi -4DR Sedan OTD: Price of $22,100.00
I assume this is a good Deal for EXL Navi, where the true car quoting me a base price of $22,000.00 , where i got $22,100.00 OTD.
@bbb99 said: Looking for the best price on a 2013 Honda Civic LX in Austin, TX. I got a quote of 19k before ttl, what's the lowest I can go? It looks like people are getting it in the 16k range before ttl.
You should be able to do a lot better than that. For the LX, there are a lot of reports on here where people paid around 16k before ttl. I paid 16.3k if you look a few posts back.
@11tybillion said: if someone wouldn't mind..i keep reading all these posts, and people keep mentioning trying to get 1000 + dollars off "invoice".
Is that the Factory Invoice + Destination fee? Or does "invoice" mean MSRP? Sorry, just really confused
Factory invoice is exactly what it is. Do a search here on edmunds under the new car buying guide. For example, the MSRP for the Civic LX is 19,775 with a factory invoice price of 18,433. There are plenty of folks on here that paid 1-2k off of invoice price before taxes, title, and licensing as those vary by state and county. For example, I paid 16.3k in CA if you look a few posts back.


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Contrary to what I wrote in my review of "Michael Clayton" - and though you can't really tell by watching it - some exterior filming was done in Wisconsin. The film stars George Clooney as an attorney torn between his conscience and loyalty to a corrupt client. A pivotal plot point occurs in Milwaukee, and the story a lawsuit filed by a Wisconsin woman.
I previously blogged about some of the local angles, including audio of a local TV newscast.
But Jerry Huffman, communications director of the Wisconsin Department of Tourism wrote in an e-mail that his department "has been involved with the film for more than a year and, albeit, small there are real Wisconsin touches in the film."
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The Marquis de Lafayette's heirloom sword from 1792 went missing Tuesday night, and it was up to a group of first-year students to find it. Skillman and Kirby librarians and information technology staff hosted a high-tech scavenger hunt where clues were left around Skillman and Kirby libraries to reveal the location of the lost treasure.
Students used QR (Quick Response) readers on their cell phones and library research services to find the clues. QR codes are small patterned squares which provide digital information after being scanned by a computer or the camera on a smart phone. The first 20 students to find the sword, which was located in Kirby Library, won prizes and got their pictures taken with the sword. The hunt wasn't just for fun; it provided new students with an interesting way to get acquainted with library staff and services.
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Linux Device Roundup
In this article, Linux Journal speaks with four Linux device experts—Henry Kingman, Rick Lehrbaum, Shawn Powers and Bill Weinberg—in a virtual roundtable to take the pulse of Linux-based devices. They discuss the state of Linux-driven devices, their promise for the future and which ones are their favorites. Our roundtable participants are some of the best-known voices and "virtual pens" in the Linux device space:
Henry Kingman has edited the renowned site LinuxDevices.com since 2003. Kingman started his Web publishing career in 1998 at ZDNet, building a massive TipZone database largely composed of Microsoft software bugs.
Rick Lehrbaum is the founder and editor of the popular site DeviceGuru.com, an independent blog devoted to new and emerging device technologies. In addition to founding LinuxDevices.com—now a part of DeviceForge.com—Lehrbaum cofounded Ampro Computers and consults for companies in the embedded market.
Shawn Powers is the celebrated Gadget Guy product reviewer for LinuxJournal.com and Associate Editor for Linux Journal. He is also technology director for a K–12 school district in Michigan.
Bill Weinberg is an Independent Analyst and Consultant at LinuxPundit.com. He also serves as General Manager of the Linux Phone Standards (LiPS) Forum and Mobile Linux Weatherman for the Linux Foundation. Previously, Weinberg was with Open Source Development Labs (OSDL) as Senior Technology Analyst and manager of the group's Mobile Linux and Carrier Grade Linux Initiatives, as well as a founding team member at MontaVista Software.
Henry Kingman: Some trends in the world of Linux may be:
Using desktop and server software instead of special "embedded" software (Nokia started this trend).
Using Linux in place of an RTOS (real-time OS).
Better "free" sources of Linux, such as the kernels, BSPs and filesystems supplied by chip or board suppliers and open-source projects.
More commercial support options, with hybrid service/product companies like Embedded Alley making headway.
Better tools, with the industry aligning behind Eclipse and its top-level Device Software Development Platform.
Trends caused by Linux may include:
Ridiculous feature proliferation, such as multiple radios in mobile devices, car stereos that can park the car, vending machines that phone in orders and so on.
Ubiquitous networking.
Ubiquitous Web control interfaces.
Near-ubiquitous media rendering and GPS.
Richer interfaces across the board.
Ever-shorter product life cycles.
Rick Lehrbaum: First, Linux is really well established. It's become the default choice for devices with 32-bit processors—that is, developers tend to start with the assumption that they'll use Linux and use something else only if they require special capabilities, or if the "politics" of their company are strongly stacked in favor of an RTOS or Windows CE/XPe.
Second, Linux has become the default OS for several device categories, including the emerging MID, Netbook and Nettop product categories; traditional thin-client terminals; Wi-Fi routers; set-top boxes, such as TiVo and the Roku Netflix box; and very significantly, mid- and high-end mobile phones.
Shawn Powers: I think largely the idea that Linux is no longer a buzzword, but rather the norm, is very significant. It's almost unsettling that so many devices are incorporating Linux, and yet that isn't as unique and exciting as it used to be from a marketing standpoint. Back in August at LinuxWorld, I noticed a huge trend in that so much of the conference was Linux, but wasn't really about Linux. It's as if we've finally taken over the world, and it's not as exciting as we thought it would be.
Bill Weinberg: Linux is becoming increasingly ubiquitous as an embedded software platform. From data gleaned from analyst reports and from my own direct contact with OEMs, about one-third of 32- and 64-bit designs are using Linux. Application areas include mobile telephony, consumer electronics, automotive systems/GPS, telecommunications and networking infrastructure, even medical and aerospace/defense.
Trends that I see include consolidation of systems/software platforms—mobile in particular. The visible manifestations of the trend toward consolidation include the merger of dot-orgs like LiPS and LiMo; companies like ACCESS, Azingo, Purple Labs and others joining LiMo and embracing that platform spec; Intel embracing Ubuntu/Canonical as part of Moblin and also buying OpenHand; Wind River buying Mizi Research; and Sun refocusing the role of Linux-based JavaFX Mobile to complement Google/Android.
Frankly, more important (in my humble opinion) than ".organic" mergers and activities is ORGANIC consolidation. In particular, if you look at the range of FOSS and commercial mobile platforms (including those mentioned above), you will see a consolidation of foundation components around: the Linux kernel 2.6, glibc, GTK+/Cairo/Pango, WebKit, GStreamer and Java (still a must for legacy interoperability). This development is illustrated in Figure 1.
The second major trend is that the upward motion of the value line put OEMs in the pilot seat. OEMs and integrators have a better range of choices with regard to buying and/or building a Linux-based embedded platform and toolkit. They can certainly turn to OSVs, like MontaVista and Wind River, and/or smaller packaged product/services companies. They also can purchase application-purposed vertical stacks for mobile, automotive, MIDs and so on from companies like those mentioned above. They also can, with more confidence than ever before, self-integrate bits directly from OSS projects with their value-added internal code and ISVware. And, they can mix and match. This development is illustrated in Figure 2.
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SAN FRANCISCO -- We're just about ready for Game Two of the World Series. More outstanding pregame ceremonies as MLB honored veterans' service. Great video narrated by Tom Brokaw, appearances by the likes of Jerry Coleman and Tommy Lasorda (he got only 50-50 cheers-boos). The standard flyover (I've seen it 100 times but it's still impressive -- and ear-splitting).
You want the latest news? Where ya been all day? Lots of updates on the blog -- including a photo tour of the ballpark for the benefit of those who haven't made this trip. Be sure to stay with the blog every day during the series.
Our Internet issues of last night seem to be taken care of and we should have plenty of thoughts during the game. Remember, no pitch-by-pitch updates as per MLB rules but you can follow the MLB Gameday page here.
Repeating the lineups:
Detroit: Jackson, cf; Infante, 2b; Cabrera, 3b; Fielder, 1b; Young, lf; Peralta, ss; Garcia, rf; Laird, c; Fister, p
San Francisco: Pagan, cf; Scutaro, 2b; Sandoval, 3b; Posey, c; Pence, rf; Belt, 1b; Blanco, lf; Crawford, ss; Bumgarner, p.
The Giants' screechy PA announcer has done her daily duty of imploring the fans to scream and wave their orange towels for the benefit of FOX's sign-on. It's time to play. Keep it here.
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End-1st (0-0): The first pitch from Bumgarner to Jackson was high for a ball at 5:09 p.m. PT. The temperature is 64 degrees. Very nice. Both teams went down 1-2-3, with Bumgarner striking out the first two men he faced. The crowd roared as Pablo Sandoval came to the plate after his 4-for-4, three-homer Game One performance. And he was hacking but lofted a lazy fly to left on the first pitch.
End-2nd (0-0): The Giants make a great play to cut off the game's first run at the plate but, seriously now, what in the world is Tigers 3B coach Gene Lamont doing sending burly Prince Fielder first-to-home on a double to left with nobody out? Just a terrible coaching move.
Fielder was hit by a pitch and chugged around the bases on Delmon Young's rope into the left-field corner. Scutaro came over from second base to get the relay and make the throw from just on the infield dirt after Gregor Blanco overthrew SS Brandon Crawford, the initial cutoff man, and Buster Posey got the tag down on Fielder's right (rear) foot just before the left one got down on the plate (above). Great play by Scutaro, who can't do any wrong this month.
Instead of second and third with no outs and Jhonny Peralta up, the Tigers had an out. Peralta popped up on the first pitch and Avisail Garcia fanned. No runs. Could have been a big early inning against Bumgarner, who was drubbed in his two previous starts this postseason.
In the bottom of the inning, Fister got out of a two-out bases-loaded jam by getting Bumgarner on a lazy pop-up to Peralta at short but Fister bears watching the next couple of innings. He took a line drive from Gregor Blanco right off the coconut -- top of the head -- and it deflected all the way to center field for a single. He stays in and looks unfazed. Crazy. The trainer came out and checked on him (right) and apparently found no problems.
Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle, who covers the Oakland A's, immediately tweeted shock that Fister was allowed to continue. She covered the scary liner that felled Oakland pitcher Brandon McCarthy in September and McCarthy developed a life-threatening brain bleed a few hours later.
End-3rd (0-0): Fister trudged onward with a 1-2-3 inning (although Scutaro looked like he beat a chopper to short but was called out after a head-first slide into first). Bumgarner added two more strikeouts in his perfect frame. Fister at 49 pitches, 32 strikes; Bumgarner at 39-25. Two hits for the Giants, one for the Tigers.
End-4th (0-0): Two more 1-2-3 frames, although the Tigers got close against Bumgarner as Cabrera lashed a liner that Sandoval speared and Fielder took Blanco deep the wall in left.
End-5th (0-0): The linescore is 0-2-0 for the both sides. That said, this favors the Giants because of bullpen strength. The Tigers can't possibly use Valverde anymore and the Giants have a full complement of guys down there. Fister is at 86 pitches (58 strikes). Bumgarner is at a stunningly economical 56-36.
End-6th (0-0): Fister at 108. He's gotta be done -- with 13 2/3 scoreless innings in his last two starts. Just like Verlander said after the game last night, the Tigers have other guys too. Drew Smyly and Octavio Dotel warming in the pen. Fister gave up one hit after getting plunked in the head.
The Tigers have to find a way to get to Bumgarner (left, after striking out Infante in the sixth) because the bullpen is not in their favor.
End-7th (1-0, Giants): The Giants take the lead on Brandon Crawford's double-play ball with the bases loaded and no outs. Yes, I know the Tigers are trying to defuse the big innings but playing the infield back when you only have six outs to work with? Wow.
Smyly relieves Fister after Pence pulls a leadoff single through the left side. Brandon Belt walks on a full-count pitch and Blanco drops a perfect bunt that rolls and rolls and rolls and STOPS on the edge of the grass for a single. Giants getting every break.
Santiago Casilla in for Bumgarner to start the 8th. Final pitching lines:
Fister: 6+ IP, 4H, 1R, 1ER, 1 BB, 3K, 114-76
Bumgarner: 7 IP, 2H, 0R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 8K 86-54
Mid-8th (1-0, Giants) Another 1-2-3 inning. Giants three outs away. Cabrera and Fielder don't bat in the ninth if Tigers go down 1-2-3. Leyland will get roasted if they lose 1-0.
End-8th (2-0, Giants): Pence droves home an insurance run with a bases-loaded sacrifice fly. Sergio Romo coming in. Giants three outs away from a 2-0 lead.
IT'S OVER: Giants win, 2-0, and lead the series, 2-0. On to Detroit.
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Simon Katich backs Hampshire to win Champions League T20
9:50am Wednesday 10th October 2012 in Sport
SIMON Katich has backed Hampshire to win the Champions League T20 – at his expense.
Hampshire will play Simon Katich's Perth Scorchers in their final Group A game on October 23 if they get through the qualifiers.
It could effectively be a quarter-final, but Katich (pictured) – who captained New South Wales to the inaugural CLT20 title in 2009 – says: "If Hampshire get through qualifying, which they should do, they will have a great chance of reaching the latter stages, and going on to win the Champions League.
"It will be an interesting game against us if they get through as they know about me and I know all about them.
Their strength is their ability to play as a team and they have many match-winners and guys who know their role.
"Dimi's a great captain for his ability to be up front with the ball and his batting sometimes wins matches on his own. The key for Hampshire is to start well, there isn't time for them to slip up.
"The other teams are OK but should not worry Hampshire too much although the team from Pakistan (Sialkot Stallions) can be very unpredictable."
This could be Katich's last tournament.
He will decide whether to return to Hampshire after the CLT20, but will continue to play club cricket in Australia, regardless of his decision.
"I'll take some time to make up my mind about Hampshire next year and see what the future brings after cricket," he says.
"I still enjoy playing and had a fantastic time at Hampshire, it's great being involved with such a fantastic group of blokes.
"I felt I moved around well in the field – I got my leg pulled all season because younger blokes like Sean Ervine couldn't quite believe I was really 37.
"Sean kept saying that I made him look old!"
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