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MerCruiser Corrosion FAQs
- How can I find my closest authorized MerCruiser dealer?
- How often should my seawater pump impeller be serviced?
- When my boat is stored in the water, should my sterndrive be stored in the "up" or "down" position?
- What do I need to know about corrosion?
- What is the length of the corrosion warranty?
- What is a MerCathode and what does it do?
- What is a galvanic isolator and what does it do?
- My sterndrive paint is peeling and/or blistering. What is going on?
- Why is my stainless steel prop rusty?
- Can I use anti-fouling paint?
How can I find my closest authorized MerCruiser dealer?
Authorized MerCruiser dealers in the United States and Canada can be found under Find a Dealer on this website.
Links to regions outside of the United States and Canada can be found on the Contact Us page.
How often should my seawater pump impeller be serviced?
Every 300 hours or 3 years, whichever comes first.
When my boat is stored in the water, should my sterndrive be stored in the "up" or "down" position?
Sterndrive should be stored in the down position to ensure that the anodes are in the water for maximum corrosion protection.
What do I need to know about corrosion?
The good news is that corrosion can be prevented! Marine corrosion is a fact of boating life, but you can protect your investment with diligence & proper maintenance. As the boat owner, YOU are the most important key to effective corrosion protection. Here are some things you should know:
- All MerCruiser sterndrives come standard with aluminum sacrificial anodes a three-year warranty against certain types of corrosion (see your Operation, Maintenance and Warranty manual for more details). SeaCore models receive a four-year limited corrosion warranty.
- Bravo sterndrives are also equipped with a MerCathode, optional on Alphas.
- Magnesium anodes are suggested for fresh water use ONLY & can be purchased from your authorized dealer.
- Anodes & sterndrives should be inspected on a regular basis for signs of corrosion. Do not paint anodes.
- Not all anodes are created equal. Don't sacrifice your sterndrive's protection with the use of poor-quality aftermarket anodes.
- The MerCathode should be tested annually by an authorized dealer for proper operation. Do not paint or power-wash the MerCathode.
- Your particular boating environment may require that you install additional anodes or other protective devices.
- Whenever you add stainless steel accessories (for example props or trim tabs) it's a good idea to have the corrosion resistance checked to make sure it is still adequate
- If you use shore power, you should have an approved galvanic isolator installed to protect against stray current corrosion (electrolysis) from your dock, from your boat's accessories or from other nearby boats.
- Corrosion can be caused by many factors, such as the wrong type or improper application of anti-fouling paint, marine growth, stray electrical current (electrolysis), an improperly wired or damaged MerCathode, etc. These types of conditions are not covered by the warranty.
- Before you notice signs of corrosion, contact your authorized MerCruiser dealer to arrange for an in-the-water hull potential test where the boat is primarily moored. This test will help the dealer determine if your protection level is adequate.
- See your Operation, Maintenance & Warranty manual for more information.
- A very informative pamphlet on corrosion "Marine Corrosion Protection Guide" (#90-88181301) is available. Please call 1-800-MERCURY to request one.
What is the length of the corrosion warranty?
The corrosion warranty is for three years from the original date of purchase of the complete power package for 1988 and newer MerCruiser product. SeaCore models receive a four-year limited corrosion warranty. See the complete corrosion warranty under the section titled Warranties or in your Operation, Maintenance & Warranty manual. Protection against certain types of corrosion damage must be provided by using such systems as the Mercury Precision MerCathode system and/or galvanic isolator. These certain types of corrosion damage include damage due to stray electrical currents (on-shore power connections, nearby boats, submerged metal), etc. It is the owner's responsibility to ensure that all necessary anti-corrosion devices are in good working order and are providing adequate protection.
What is a MerCathode and what does it do?
The Mercury Precision MerCathode system provides automatic protection against galvanic corrosion. It is a solid-state device that operates off a boat's 12-volt battery and provides protection by impressing a reverse blocking current that stops the destructive flow of galvanic currents. If your power package does not come already equipped with a MerCathode system, Mercury strongly recommends that you install one, particularly if your boat is equipped with a stainless steel propeller or other submerged stainless steel hardware. The MerCathode should be tested annually by an authorized dealer for proper operation.
What is a galvanic isolator and what does it do?
The Mercury Precision Galvanic Isolator is a solid-state device that is series connected in line into the boat's green safety grounding lead ahead of all grounding connections on the boat. This device functions as a filter, blocking the flow of destructive low voltage galvanic (DC) currents, but still maintaining the integrity of the safety grounding circuit. A galvanic isolator is only necessary on boats utilizing a shore power connection.
My sterndrive paint is peeling and/or blistering. What is going on?
One of the first signs of galvanic corrosion is paint blistering (starting on sharp edges) below the waterline, with a white powdery substance forming on the exposed metal areas. As the corrosion continues, the exposed metal areas will become deeply pitted, with the metal actually being eaten away. Galvanic corrosion of aluminum sterndrive units, or any other underwater aluminum on your boat, is accelerated by attaching stainless steel components like propellers, trim planes (if connected to engine ground) and after-market steering systems. Whenever you add stainless steel accessories, it's a good idea to have the corrosion resistance checked to make sure it is still adequate.
Why is my stainless steel prop rusty?
Stainless steel propellers can discolor and form areas of light rust. Brushed finish stainless props are more susceptible than brightly finished stainless steel props. Rust stains can occur from polluted water, galvanic corrosion from the boat or marina, or from oxygen depletion. The propeller can be easily cleaned with rubbing compound or Scotchbrite. Do not use steel wool. After cleaning, use chrome polish to protect the finish. Stainless steel props can also turn white from calcium or lime in the water. In this case, clean the prop with household mineral bath and tile cleaner. Again, do not use steel wool. Follow-up with chrome polish to protect the finish.
Can I use anti-fouling paint?
Anti-fouling paint may be applied to boat hull and boat transom, but you must observe the following precautions:
- IMPORTANT: DO NOT paint anodes or MerCathode system reference electrode and anode, as this will render them ineffective as galvanic corrosion inhibitors.
- IMPORTANT: If anti-fouling protection is required for boat hull or boat transom, copper- or tin-based paints can be used if not prohibited by law. When using copper- or tin-based anti-fouling paints, you should avoid any electrical interconnection between the MerCruiser product, anodic blocks, or MerCathode system and the paint. Allow a minimum of 1-1/2 in. (40 mm) UNPAINTED area on the transom of the boat around these items.
- Sterndrive unit and transom assembly should be painted with a good quality marine paint or an anti-fouling paint that DOES NOT contain copper, tin, or any other material that could conduct electrical current. Do not paint drain holes, anodes, MerCathode system, and items specified by the boat manufacturer.


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The Washington National Guard on Thursday plans to break ground on a $27 million headquarters at Joint Base Lewis-McChord* for a unit that seeks to tilt the battlefield in its favor by influencing the decisions of enemy leaders.
The new building will house the Army National Guard's 56th Information Operations Group, which is composed of citizen soldiers trained to help commanders execute goals by shaping the opinions of their opponents and of foreign populations.
Elements of the National Guard's 96th Troop Command also will have offices in the new building.
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The schools recently entered into articulation agreements, one of which allows students to earn three credits toward CCC's Criminal Justice Program by completing security and law-enforcement courses at CV-TEC.
In addition, students can also earn seven credits toward the college's Electrical Technology: Electronics or Wind Energy and Turbine Technology programs through participation in CV-TEC's Electrical Design, Installation and Alternative Energy Program.
"These two new articulation agreements provide seamless transition from CV-TEC to Clinton," CV-TEC Director Barry Mack said in a news release.
The two schools, he added, have a history of working together to bring students access to higher education in a number of career and technical fields.
Through CV-TEC's Security and Law Enforcement Program, which is the only high-school chapter of the New York Corrections and Youth Services Association in the state, students can earn security-guard certification through the Division of Criminal Justice Services and certifications in enhanced security guard and teen community emergency response team through the State Office of Homeland Security.
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5 Reasons to Grant Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
It's time to get serious and implement the only immigration reform that will work.
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5. There Are Too Many Illegal Immigrants To Do Anything Else
According to the latest estimates, there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in America. That's a lot of people. It would be exceedingly difficult to deport them all—if not totally impossible. Indeed, even attempting to do so would require a massive expansion of government bureaucracy, particularly in the form of new government workers to round up illegal immigrants, process them, and deport them. The inhumanity of this approach goes without saying: Individuals would be ripped away from their families and communities. And there would also be dire economic consequences from removing millions of hard-working residents from the domestic labor pool.
It's time to face the facts: The millions of illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States are overwhelmingly law-abiding, tax-paying, and hard-working. Grant them amnesty and let them continue to make America a better place.
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But they broke the rules!
/ statist mode
This is the last time, I swear...
/ idiot mode
Awesome. I'll sign you up for the volunteers for a tax audit list.
Something about casting stones and no sin....
So unless I have never "sinned" I can't call murder wrong? Okkkkaayyy
Setting aside issues of justice and rights, it is the "selfless" GOP politician who gladly accepts 11 million Democratic (or future Democratic) voters. Are politicians really that principled?
Reasons to grant amnesty.
1. We need more Democrats.
2. We need to undercut the wages of the working class.
3. We need corporations to exploit cheap labor.
4. We need more people on welfare.
5. We need a bigger government.
Sounds good, guys! And the food will taste delicious!
I saw some Hondurans who put the lie to Shikha Dalmia's assertion that "no one works harder than a Mexican immigrant". Perhaps her analysis was flawed based on her acceptance of "the similarity of wetbacks".
2 good reasons to make an exceedingly short article needlessly 3 pages long:
1. To increase ad revenue
2. To piss me off
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We should link citizenship to taxes paid. Pay $100K in cumulative taxes, get citizenship, no questions asked. This would weed out a lot of the folks who just want to vote themselves free stuff, and be more appealing to conservatives who are afraid of brown people.
If a Mexican pays $100K in US taxes and uses $300K in public services that doesn't sound like such a great deal for the US. Besides, they usually get it handed back as an EITC. To a typical first generation Mexican with four kids US citizenship is worth approximately $750,000. He and the four generations that follow him probably won't pay that much in taxes combined.
It's unlikely that somebody who paid 100k in taxes would consume 300k in services.
Additionally, people who collect the EITC are, by definition, not paying taxes.
Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
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On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax
administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not
Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable
No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.
******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with
fraudulent data.******
The Treasury report found that "One common type of
fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement
(Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."
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There was a time when I believed that libertarian ideas deserved a more considered response than a fast punch in the mouth.
I must have been out of my mind.
Tell you what, a perfectly voluntary situation (as long as we have a welfare state and positive economic intervention by the state) is for all the open borders droolers to contribute voluntarily to the welfare programs, so the welfare bums can then vote for democrats and thus force everybody else to pay for the welfare bums at the point of a gun.
The wages of statism is more statism; you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you are going to have a welfare state wherein everybody who supports his own life is forced to support the lives of those who don't care to support themselves, then you either A. lock down the borders and deport every illegal alien you can find, so "the family" doesn't have to pay for them or B. end the welfare state and economic intervention so to eliminate the obviously perverse incentives they represent. Why is this so fucking hard to understand? Why are the pussytarians at Reason so hellbent on destroying America, just like the lefties who hold your leashes?
Or C. fence off the welfare state rather than the borders. Allow immigrants to enter, live, and work on a visa that has no promise of citizenship and explicitly denies targeted welfare to the immigrant and his children.
Why is this so hard to understand?
Why is this so hard to understand?
I don't know. Ask the reason-staff who seem to think "comprehensive reform with a path to citizenship" is the preferred option and several pro-amnesty commenters who equate the right-to-travel with the "right to vote"
Who are these staff? Don't confuse taking advantage of current events as a jumping off point for an article with support for the legislation that prompts that jumping off point.
Most of the staff appears to recognize, with most experts in the field, that if you don't solve the problem of next year's immigrants, whatever you do with today's illegal immigrants is not solving much.
Unless the US massively increases legal immigration, especially on the low end of the skill spectrum (there's no contention on the high end, and of course the protectionist middle class keeping a fence around the middle end), "comprehensive reform" may as well be called "noncomprehensive reform".
What about the pressure Mexicans put on local law enforcement, schools, and housing? We really don't have a need or a place for them. So kick them out and keep them from returning.
Just like politicians always try to prove how 'Christian' they are to other Christians, the Libertarians that inhabit the Reason comment section, try to out-Libertarian everyone else.
They cling to the libertarian ideal of open borders while ignoring reality.
Until we dismantle the welfare state, which is funded by the confiscation of labor/property by threat of violence and/or incarceration, the concept of open US borders is fucking asinine.
Skyhawk is 100% right. Couldn't have said it better. Unless the govt stops the redistribution of wealth, this whole article and ideals are a complete waste of time and thought.
I posted this the other day but can not help myself when immigration and welfare are mentioned.
I like it.
I question the proposition that except for their immigration status they are generally law abiding. To work, you need to provide a SS number. So, every illegal immigrant that ever held a job was, by definition, guilty of providing a false SS number and potentially identity theft.
Be that as it may, I would agree that in a perfect world we should have the liberty to travel, live and work where ever we choose. However, we do not live in a perfect world. Ours is a generous welfare state financed by prosperity retarding taxation levels and disastrous deficit spending. Under those circumstances, the libertarian ideal of freedom of movement and association must give way to more practical considerations.
Or working under the table. Lots of undocumented workers work under the table, and even pay taxes on those earnings.
How the hell are you "working under the table" if you"re paying income taxes? My understanding of that phrase means that you aren't paying taxes.
Lots of undocumented workers track their earnings and file a return. I guess they feel a responsibility to do so. Be skeptical if you must, but it happens.
^^Total Bullshit^^
"Ours is a generous welfare state financed by prosperity retarding taxation levels and disastrous deficit spending. Under those circumstances, the libertarian ideal of freedom of movement and association must give way to more practical considerations."
The best reason of all for amnesty...
Props for the avoidance of the neologisms "undocumented immigrant" and "unauthorized immigrant", Ed.
Not to mention 'undocumented worker'. Yeeeeecccchhh!
Reason could shorten this article by saying that they want open borders, therefore they don't want to punish past illegal immigration or discourage future illegal immigration.
They would have nothing else to write about after that, since every other article is another rationalistic pie-in-the-sky about how great it is to import millions of third world bums who don't have to play by *any* of the economic rules that American citizens have to play by.
Regardless of whether you're right (bums) or I'm right (not bums), regardless of the fact there is a welfare state, if you want to be consistent about freedom, the natural thing to do open the borders. Of course, to be "practical" about it you have to eliminate the welfare state, at the very least to calm down all of your fretting about what a drain immigrants would be. The source of the problem is clearly the nefarious welfare state, NOT immigration.
"The source of the problem is clearly the nefarious welfare state, NOT immigration."
If we legalized out of status Americans (I had to try it once), wouldn't they take in 3 times more than they paid in, just like legal Americans? If you came here as a 50 year old, you might be eligible for medicare benefits in 10,15 years and Obamacare next year.
Illegal aliens also receive 4.2 billion in tax refunds (or says fact check, hmm). It's not too difficult to receive welfare, or should I say, fool the federal government. All in all, the impact of immigrants (negative or positive) in this country probably isn't all that great.
I'm not sure if immigration is a "natural right". I don't think you should be denied entry because of your race or your belief. Your own government shouldn't prevent your from leaving. But can you relocate to another nation without leaving any record there? Lots of people wish we would just drop dead.
It seems like only robots who can pick fruits 5 times as fast as any human laborer can resolve the illegal immigration issue. Maybe that's why Latinos don't like capitalism?
You might convince me to let them give them a chance in the back of the line, but never that we should just give them all citzenship after they cut in front of the line. Let's not reward bad behavior.
You seem to be protesting breaking a government law that is deliberately designed to prevent people from coming into the country in a reasonable time frame, ie, 'red tape'.
Hmm, seems like it's time for some border crossings into Reason's LA and DC offices. Why not? We'll work real hard, throw you a few bucks to cover expenses. Sure, some of us will commandeer a few computers, write a few unauthorized blog posts, muck around with payroll, etc.
But anyone should be able to settle in wherever they damn well please, or so I hear. But then again, sometimes I don't hear things too clearly, what with the apples clinking up against the martini glasses and all.
But hey, personal property rights. Why, they're just for suckers and nativists and mouth-breathers and right-wingers.
This from the same fucking pansy website that went to closed registration JUST BECAUSE OF ONE TROLL---White Indian!
So let's all March on Reason. In groups, as individuals. Whenever we feel like, day or night, with good intentions or not.
Oh, you're not in favor of that. I guess that makes you a fucking bigot!
See, Reason actually owns there office. You don't own this country, you collectivist twat. I don't need you permission to invite people onto my land or hire them to work at my business.
If I owned a business, I couldn't violate company hiring policies (agreed upon by shareholders and such) and Human resources to just hire anyone I wanted.
You have to meet certain requirements to become a citizen here, just as you have to satisfy the job requirement (not to mention passing physicals and other conditions set by the government, depending on the job) of a company to be hired there.
No one can "own" a nation, but it's ruled by laws passed by the government and their citizens.
No! No! No! You don't get it!
Private Property = Magic Invisible Line
National Borders = Magic Invisible Line
Cosmotarian = Someone who's self-empowered to decree which Magic Invisible Lines are holy and sacrosanct and which ones can be disregarded at your pleasure because they're only arrrrrbitrary!
Individual Rights = an individual can do whatever he wants so long as he does not violate the rights of another individual
Government Powers = a government can do only what it is explicitly empowered to do and it cannot violate individual rights without compelling and specifically applied cause
Those are what distinguish one "magic invisible line" from another.
Your problem is that neither one of those statements are true, wishful thinking on your part notwithstanding. There are plenty of laws on the books that prohibit behavior not directly infringing on the rights of others. Your definition of "rights" is not one that has ever been recognized in any nation, at any time in history.
Secondly, the government is very much authorized to regulate and enforce immigration laws, your yanked out the ass "rights" notwithstanding.
So I guess that means
Yokeltarian = Someone who confuses the fallacy of composition with sound argumentation.
There is a difference between legalization and becoming a citizen. (The last entails the first, of course.) Of the 5 points, only #4 might be construed as support for granting citizenship. Even then, it's stretching a little. IMO, no one who is here illegally should ever be granted citizenship, though there would be exceptions (adoption by a citizen, etc.).
Regarding your point that illegal aliens pay taxes:
(1) What is your actual evidence?
(2) A lot of people who pay social security tax only get all or part of it back through the EITC. One of the reasons they established the EITC is to mitigate the social security taxes low income people pay. Don't forget the additional child tax credit, which is a refundable credit.
(3) You say that illegal aliens file with fake social security numbers, thereby paying social security tax on which they won't get benefits. But could they also be using these fake numbers to get food stamps, medicaid, medical and such? You seem to be ignoring facts/possibilities that get in the way of the conclusion you want -- which is the illegal aliens are hardworking and pay taxes and get nothing back.
So let me get this straight, S. Dragon.
If I walk into Reason and commandeer a computer and rewrite S. Dalmia's blogs, eat Nick G's lunch and have B. Doherty's paycheck routed to me, none of those persons could complain because none of those individuals "own" Reason? Just like I have no say in the country's policies simply because I don't "own" it?
Furthermore, dipshit, I do own this country. We all own it. We the People. We the Citizens. We the Legal Residents. Not We Whoever The Fuck Shows Up and Refuses to Say Who They Are.
No wonder why True Libertarian ne'er-do-wells hate cops and military. You have no concept of protecting what is rightfully yours, other than by silly fucking word games.
You could be invaded by leprous Barbie dolls on crack, they'd kick your ass and you'd call it freedom.
It's simply amazing to me the hypocrisy around here.
Veins burst out of your blessed Rothbardian heads when someone whispers "Eminent Domain."
Yet, hordes of men, women and children from everywhere on the planet, by train, by plane, by automobile and on foot practice eminent domain (with the total support of THEIR government)*** and you applaud it.
Just like New London has no right to take Susan K's farm WITHOUT ASKING, Joe Foreigner has no right to settle here WITHOUT ASKING.
***How do I know that? How do I know foreign govs love illegal US immigration? Well, it's pretty fucking rare that any country asks for their people back unless they're politically connected, wealthy or they've embarrassed their native country.
Joe Foreigner has no right to settle here WITHOUT ASKING.
Asking whom? If I have land to sell and he has the money to buy it, what business is it of yours?
Are you fracking serious? The right to enter into contracts and the right to enter and settle in a country are two utterly different things.
MANY countries do not allow non-residents to own property. Try buying a house in Bermuda unless you're a legal resident.
Ah, yes. I remember Jefferson's words now...
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equalsubservient to the Government, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happinessobligations.--That to secure these rightsGovernment powers, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their justpowers from the consentdomination of the governed
Given your grasp of eminent domain, you should recognize that, when the United States government tells me who may live on my property and who I may employ in my workplace, that is a taking of my private property rights for (perceived) public benefit. It is you who are advocating eminent domain applied against the rights of residence, employment, and association of individuals under US jurisdiction.
Joe Foreigner does ask. He asks his landlord. He asks his employer. They both say Yes. Who is the US to abrogate all those rights?
Are you retarded?
Umm, Mike, before JF can ask a landlord, he has to ask the persons at the border first, because the very same system that (theoretically) mans the border is the very same system that treats your property deed as having value instead of it being just a piece of paper.
As a society, yes, as a group of individuals, we have to come to certain (COLLECTIVE
Hmmm. My deed talks about the county and the state. Nothing about the federal government, the border patrol, or immigration.
But thanks for tagging yourself as a collectivist. That saves a little work.
So - exactly who are you relying upon to enforce the rights guaranteed by that deed? Given your aversion to collectives, I assume that when your friendly neighborhood street gang decides to commandeer your house, you'll be handling the matter yourself...
Yes, because if we had a system of "hue and cry", that group of autonomous individuals engaging in voluntary cooperation would totally be equivalent to a collectivist system of coercion.
Looks like we need to add the fallacies of special pleading and equivocation to the list.
Yes, because groups of autonomous individuals engaging in voluntary cooperation to prevent crimes is so very, very effective.
Really? That's all you got, an anecdote? There are hundreds of counter-examples; however, I have a feeling you're not interested in those, so I'll leave you with this anecdote. My mom knew the killer, Moseley. He sat in her kitchen once. I guess he was a friend of a friend. Anyway, he asked her out and she told him no because even then she knew he was a sick, creepy piece of shit.
You're correct in asserting that the United States Constitution doesn't recognize allodial title. Thanks to the 5th Amendment, the ultimate landlord of all real property in the United States is the Federal government, that is fee simple title is the highest title an individual can claim.
And maybe you're fine with that; however, many libertarians see it as unjust. There are strong arguments from the libertarian viewpoint against this state of affairs. For example, Thomas Jefferson, hoping to convert titles to real property to alloidal title held by private individuals, fought tooth and nail against the continuance of fee simple title. Start with the paragraph that begins, "That we shall at this time also take notice of an error in the nature of our land holdings, which crept in at a very early period of our settlement."
As a society, yes, as a group of individuals, we have to COLLECTIVELY define certain things.
We all have the same take on personal property. What is yours is yours and mine is mine under the law. Within that same collective, we've also defined residency requirements. So, yeah, dude, believe it or not, the government does define who you can hire, etc.
You got a better way to organize a society than to have collective definitions of things like property rights, residency requirements, currency value?
Why is this so hard to understand?
But then again in your world, the deed that says you own 1313 Mockingbird Lane, is relevant only to Mike and Mike's concerns. No collective agreement needed.
Me? Fuck that piece of paper. No government is telling me that a piece of paper that says "Mike's property" is gonna infringe on my freedom--which also just happens to be to live in my mobile home on 1313 M-bird Lane.
Property and property rights precede and preexist the state. The state merely recognizes them, subdivides them, records them, and defends them. The state does not invent them.
It's pretty clear you believe that might makes right. Do you believe that there are any normative principles that might should try to follow? Or does the collective define the collective's power, done and done?
"A natural right is a right inherent to our humanity, and the freedom of movement is such a right. The idea that immigration needs to be "authorized" by the government flies in the face of that freedom."
If something is a natural right, should it not be protected somewhere in the world? The inconvenient fact is that the authority to restrict aliens from its territory has always been an inherent part of sovereignty. The sovereign may choose not to exercise that authority, but the authority is never denied. Immigration is no natural right.
"The government doesn't own the country and political borders are just lines on maps."
When did White Indian start writing for Reason?
Immigration is no natural right.
Really? I know some folks who would disagree with you.
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. ... He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
That's not asserting that people have a right to immigrate, that was asserting the sovereignty of the states because the king was exercising it against the states interest. The quote recognizes that there should be some "Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners", one wonders at the necessity of that if immigration is a recognized natural right.
That's not asserting that people have a right to immigrate, that was asserting the sovereignty of the states because the king was exercising it against the states interest.
Balderdash! Your reading requires some incredible twists in semantics.
The quote recognizes that there should be some "Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners", one wonders at the necessity of that if immigration is a recognized natural right.
The Founders weren't anarchists. They believed laws could be passed to protect and strengthen natural rights.
"Your reading requires some incredible twists in semantics."
Stop projecting. The quote you used in no way, shape, or form suggests the king was violating the rights of potential immigrants, just that his policies were not in the interests of the states.
"They believed laws could be passed to protect and strengthen natural rights."
In absence of any suggestion of immigrant rights, the acceptance "Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners" presumes an ability to regulate the migration of foreigners, not an inalienable right.
Actually, "Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners" presumes an ability to regulate the naturalization of foreigners. As well it should, since naturalization and citizenship are not inalienable rights.
#6 Because all my white girlfriends were too damn stupid (no offense, I never could find myself a libertarian female).
Pretty sure that's a fantasy dude. I mean, I've seen a couple on the videos this site posts, but they're located in a preserve in LA. I don't think they exist in the wild.
Damn. My dreams are crushed. Actually, I do know one, come to think of it. Not exactly a looker, though.
Totally off topic...but...
Did anyone here see the video of neurosurgeon Ben Carson from John Hopkins telling Obama at the national prayer breakfast that we need a flat tax, that the affordable care is not really the best way to do things (he offers his alternative) and that Americans are too damned PC? I like this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyHegP255g
#PathToLegal yes. #PathToCitizenship no. Immigration may be great for America. Allowing people from corrupt, broken cultures laden with horrible values to become citizens, bring their broken cultural values here and pollute our culture is not good. These people have not come here to change, become Americans and adopt American values. They have come here to feast from out plenty and to infect our culture.
For an in your face truth go to the boarder and talk to the Americans there that see all this fuzzy wuzzy talk as pure BS and live with the reality of getting shot on a daily bases. How much is most when you're talking eleven million?
You can have a welfare state, or, you can have open borders.
You cannot have both.
There is a third way which the Democratic party seems to be aiming for;
Pass a Constitutional Amendment saying;
"Every Human Being on earth is an American citizen with full rights and priveledges, and from the moment they step onto American soil shall be elegible for all support and benefits available to all native born citizens.
Any Human Being who is deprived of the ability to step onto American soil, because of poverty and distance shall have equal opportunity to avail themselves of full benefits by applying at the nearest American embassy, in person or by mail."
We can crank up the presses and print money until anyone, anywhere who sees a U.S. Dollar breaks out laughing.
You can have a welfare state, or, you can have open borders.
You cannot have both.
You can have a welfare state that is closed to immigrants.
The only honest reason amnesty will happen is #5 – there is no political alternative.
But don't worry, this amnesty is not as bad as the last one, and waaaay better than the next one.
Just read this: When the Pew Research Center recently surveyed Latinos and asked whether they preferred high taxes and big government or low taxes and small government, they preferred high taxes and big government by a 75–19 margin.
Sleep tight, America. Only racists believe in borders.
Just a terrible, terrible article for many reasons.
1. The first reason "Immigration Is Good for the Economy" is true on the macro level. Obviously being able to pay people $2/hr to pick food or doing cleaning work lowers the cost of those services for those that consume it. But what about the impact on people that work in those industries. There are 23+ million Americans who are unemployed/underemployed who could have some of the jobs currently held by those working illegally. Yes, there is a net benefit to the economy by paying people lower wages but at the same time there are individuals hurt in the process. This is never addressed in the article. (to be cont.)
2. The 2nd reason "Illegal Immigrants Already Pay Taxes" seems to be more for an article covering "Myths of Illegal Immigration" rather than an argument for amnesty/legalization. Regardless, the author cites the fact that many illegal immigrants currently pay FICA taxes and says "there's not even a pretense of those payments leading to eventual benefits." Thus, illegal immigrants are currently contributing money to Soc Sec that is not tied to any future benefit payments. But if they were given proper legal status then those benefits would be linked to the worker--it isn't clear if the current legislation would backdate money paid before legal status was granted or if benefits would only start accruing once the illegal immigrant is legalized. Regardless, this, if anything, is an argument AGAINST granting amnesty. Under our current system (supposedly) millions are paying FICA taxes but not getting FICA benefits as Soc Security currently runs yearly deficits & Soc Sec/Medicare costs continue to explode. Once an illegal immigrant is legalized, he/she would be paying the same amount of FICA taxes ( if he/she is one of the 8 million are already "supposedly" paying them) but now be entitled to benefits in the future, making the solvency of SS & Medicare even worse than they are now. So I'm confused as to what exactly the argument is for amnesty.
3 (part 1). The 3rd reason is just downright stupid. "While illegal immigration is a crime, the act of crossing the border without authorization is a mere misdemeanor." Ok and? DUI can be charged as a misdemeanor. Sexual assault can be charged as a misdemeanor. Assault & Battery can be charged as misdemeanors. Are these crimes not important because of their "misdemeanor" status?
"Immigrants, in fact, may help drive crime down." Completely false. If you take a large pool of immigrants (say none of which commit crime) and add them to the existing population, then the crime rate would go down (since the denominator has increased). But if even one commits a crime, then the overall amount of crime (or number of crimes committed) has increased. So unless the author has some idea of immigrants patrolling neighborhoods/streets to reduce crime, his assertion is completely false.
"all manners of violent crimes dropped dramatically since 1986, the last time an amnesty was granted to illegal immigrants". Has this author ever heard of correlation does not equal causality? Apparently not.
4. Yes, immigration is a natural right. However, that right is subject to the rules & regulations that the country/territory one intends to visit imposes on its visitors/immigrants. And this phrase "Treating law-abiding people like criminals" makes absolutely no sense. Illegal immigrants that have entered the US illegally are criminals, they aren't law-abiding by definition. Those who have overstayed their visas aren't law abiding by definition (techinically they aren't criminals just by this act). So the illegal immigrants the author is pushing to get amnesty for are by definition not law-abiding and those who entered the US illegally, used someone else's SSN, not paid required income/FICA taxes, etc. are criminals as well.
5. "It would be exceedingly difficult to deport them all—if not totally impossible." No one has said to deport all illegal immigrants. Please cite one politician, ONE, who has called for deportations of every single illegal immigrant.
"even attempting to do so would require a massive expansion of government bureaucracy, particularly in the form of new government workers to round up illegal immigrants, process them, and deport them." You mean more ICE & BP agents? Since that's pretty much exactly what they do.
"Individuals would be ripped away from their families and communities." So what? It's not the fault of the US citizens that illegal immigrants put themselves in situations where they could end up being removed from their family/communities. If we applied that logic to everyday life, no person who has been convicted of a crime & is part of a family would ever go to jail.
3 (part 2).
"Yes, 14 percent of federal inmates are illegal immigrants, but they are largely there for immigration violations." What study/statistic is the author using for this claim? You only get jailed solely for an immigration violation if you are previously deported and then caught trying to re-renter (10 years). I'd venture to say this claim is false but without any type of reference it's impossible to say.
Again, this author makes the common mistake that pro-amnesty types often make which is look at the crime rate among immigrants, instead of looking at overall number of crimes committed. The issue with illegal immigrants & crime is not that immigrants commit crimes at a higher rate than citizens/permanent residents; the issue is that crimes committed by illegal immigrants (especially those who have been arrested for previous crimes or previously deported or had prior run-ins with law enforcement) are preventable.
Also the author does not mention anything about identification theft/using someone's SSN/TaxID fraudulently in related to crime. Additionally, the current legislation ("framework" technically) along with prior bills (2007) only disqualified someone who had been convicted of 1 felony or 3 misdemeanors. So individuals who have been convicted of 2 misdemeanors are allowed to stay and get legal status. Why?
A good way to evaluate the claims in the article would be to look at a jurisdiction where amnesty is a de facto accomplishment already - Caliifornia. If you like the results there, have at it...
First point: [citation needed]; Straw man; Increase in population in a given area will decrease availability of jobs.
Second point: Illegal Immigrants take from SS alone, upwards of 12-13 Billion Dollars. That is more than they put in. Very nice in cherry picking evidence, Ed.
Third Point: Generalization; Illegal Immigrants are still breaking a law- look up the definition of illegal.
Fourth Point: This same argument can be used if I wish to enter in your house and your property; This is my human right to be on your property, inherently.
Also, your article said that "...moving them would be too difficult...", so by that syllogism, if there are too many murderers and not enough room in jail at the moment, we should just let them go because it is too difficult?
In closing, I am starting to wonder how you got the ability to be allowed to write an article with such horrible fallacies as this backing your arguments, and I use the word "arguments" loosely, as most wouldn't consider anything here a valid argument.
You people don't even no how much illegals have stolen from American citizen. They stole your children's education. Think of all the money spent on educating illegal. That should have been spent on your American children. That was American taxpayer's money that was for your children. Instead, they got overcrowded classroom, less materials even more book that we didn't need for our children, but for illegals. Generations of American children have been cheated out of the higher education that they should have gotten. Now you know why there's has been and on going dumbing down of American children.
You see when the Illegal drain off all the state education money. The states had to go to the Government for money. The Government took over with the Department of Education. Unionize it all and now you pay three times as much for education that by their own admission is a failure. Those Mexican students that they want to give amnesty to are the ones you pay for the last 12 years. And, what do we get we are call racist. They should be thanking us. Another lie is that illegals pay Tax's. They don't pay State Tax and they don't pay Federal Tax's. How could they? That would mean that the Government knew where they were living and did not go and arrest them for being illegal. The only tax's illegals have been paying is State Sales Tax.
"...in 2006 an estimated 8 million illegal immigrants—up to two thirds of the total—paid taxes, including both income taxes and Medicare and Social Security taxes."
Fascinating, but hardly persuasive. In order to obtain employment (other than the most menial, cash based job) it's necessary to have a Social Security number. Since we're talking about illegal immigrants, the Social Security number itself must be obtained illegally.
Taxes, including income, Medicare and Social Security are then withheld, as required by federal law. Yes, there is "not even a pretense of those payments leading to eventual benefits." That's hardly a testament to the integrity of illegal immigrants. From their perspective, it's just the cost of doing business.
"Undoubtedly, even more illegal immigrants would pay taxes if they didn't have to worry about possible deportation as a consequence." Right, everyone lines up for the opportunity to pay more taxes (even John Kerry). Yee-hah! We get to hand over more money!
It's fine to support legal immigration, but making nonsensical assertions in an attempt to recast criminals as saints is preposterous.
Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM
By James Walsh
On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax
administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not
Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable
No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.
******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with
fraudulent data.******
The Treasury report found that "One common type of
fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement
(Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."
Read more on Newsmax.com: Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
my roomate's step-sister makes $60/hour on the computer. She has been laid off for 10 months but last month her paycheck was $21308 just working on the computer for a few hours. Go to this web site and read more http://www.FLY38.COM
How much $ do remittances remove from the US economy? All the while enabling the Mexican oligarchy to keep the peasants just enough above the line of revolt?
How much $ do remittances remove from the US economy?
Scratch an anti-immigration zealot, find a mercantilist.
Source: Inter-American Development Bank, March 2006 report, "Remittance 2005". Mexico remains the largest recipient of remittances, at over US$20 billion, followed by Brazil and Columbia which for the first time reached over US$6 and US$4 billion respectively. Central America and the Dominican Republic combined to reach over US$11 billion; and the Andean countries totaled almost US$9 billion.
As much as 50% of remittances are unreported. As published in the Development Prospect Group Briefing #3, "This amount only reflects transfers through official channels. Econometric analysis suggests that unrecorded flows through informal channels may add 50 percent or more to recorded flows. Including these unrecorded flows, the true size of remittances, is larger than foreign direct investment flows and more than twice as large as official aid received by developing countries."
Perhaps the open boarders push is just some cynical long ball move.
Since you can't have a welfare state and open borders
Then if you want to get rid of the welfare state, open the borders
Sure we will have to go tits up broke first and might break down like the Balkans but it is worth the risk because borders are an artificial construct from a bygone era of civilization, right?
I'm all for it. Whoever is responsible for the pagination in the article should be deported, though.
my roomate's ex-wife makes $67 every hour on the laptop. She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her pay check was $12737 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more here http://www.FLY38.COM
The Immigration law battle is not only between economists and politicians but is basically a racial issue. Those of European origin believe that the law should prevent people of color from living here. But the aroma of Spanish food is in the wind and its spicy odor will have to be sniffed by those that demand the US remain an extension of Europe.
" Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida argued this morning on "This Week" that a key provision of the bill, the so-called "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants, would not give anything away".
Sure it does Senator, it gives or sells our American citizenship to 11 million illegal aliens that broke our Immigration Laws to get here!
It's sad when some politicians and segments of our population want to degrade our American Citizenship to the point where it has no value or meaning.
"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnestybill like this."
-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.
"The agreement we just reached is the best possible chance we will have in.
years to secure our borders, bring millions of people out of the shadows and.
into the sunshine of America".
May 17, 2007.
Ted Kennedy -- Senator from Massachusetts.
Member of the Democratic Party.
" Obama of course denies any talk of amnesty, saying instead that he wants illegal immigrants to pay penalties, pay taxes, learn English, and then go "to the back of the line."
The line to enter our country starts inside the border of their own country,not ours!
That's the way the "LEGAL" system works and there's nothing in our immigration laws that says otherwise.
The inscription at the base of the Statute of Liberty concludes, "I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" It says nothing about welcoming people who bypass our entry doors by climbing walls, swimming rivers and sneaking under border fences.
"But what's wrong with granting amnesty to hard-working, tax-paying individuals whose only crime is their immigration status? "
It's what they do after they get here!
Illegal alien caught with someone else's passport
From the NY Times:
In 13 years in and around New York, Augusto Noguera built an impressive
life. From humble beginnings in Paraguay, he became a mainstay of his nation's
expatriate population, running a division of a construction company, working
for charitable and political causes, and entertaining visiting dignitaries
at his house in Flushing, Queens.
The crowning moment came in September, when President Fernando Lugo of
Paraguay appointed him to an administrative post in the government's New
York consulate. It was a job Mr. Noguera had eagerly sought, friends said,
as payback for supporting Mr. Lugo and other candidates in last year's
There was just one problem: Mr. Noguera was an illegal immigrant.
Today, he is locked in an immigration detention center in Arizona, awaiting
deportation. His botched appointment has deeply embarrassed the Paraguayan
government. And it has stirred a mix of shame, anger and dismay among his
countrymen in New York, who have been agitating for a more robust consulate
to help them build organizations and raise their community's profile.
'...The fact that foreigners are eager to pick crops, clean houses, bus tables and produce allows more of us to afford cheaper food...'
What has that go to do with being a 'nation of laws not men'? (And notice the clever wording - foreigners - instead of dealing with the facts and the issue - illegal aliens who have broken our laws by entering this country.
Has everyone gone nuts in this country? Why did we send so many men to their deaths in WWII if not to protect 'Borders Language and Culture"; or, at a minimum to expect men and women to honor their oath to defend and protect our Constitution?
I would like to ask the man who wrote this a simple question. Would you go yourself - or would you send your son to the first to land on Normandy on 6/6/1944 knowing that future generations would just ignore the law? I would have run off to Canada. No way I would ever fight for what this country has become today - you can keep your cheap shoes and burgers.


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Does anybody know why Farragut got power surges every hour on the half hour between 4:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. today? I thought maybe it was just my neighborhood, but a friend of mine in Island Home said they'd been getting them too. I would blame it on weather, but the every hour on the half mark precision makes me wonder.
I admit to being asleep
I admit to being asleep during those hours so I don't know if we got them or not (also in Island Home).
But we're on KUB power and I suspect you guys are on LC so it's hard to imagine a connection.
Curious to hear what others report.
Yeah I only kept waking up
Yeah I only kept waking up because my computer surge protector (in my bedroom) kept beeping when it switched to battery. The electricity went out for about two seconds each time. I was up for it when it happened at 7:30, but I was gone by 8:30. It's just really puzzling to me.
It's a throbbing vein in a
It's a throbbing vein in a particular forehead.
Heh. Maybe it will have burst
Heh. Maybe it will have burst by the time I get home.
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This remix of Wale's Diplo-produced "Slight Work," would seem like your average Maybach Music-and-friends affair if it weren't for the addition of Mase. Rumors have been circulating that the gone and back rapper, who joins Wale, French Montana and his old Bad Boy boss Diddy here, will join MMG. That's not unthinkable: Mase has been a crew-hopper in the past, at one point aligning with 50 Cent and G-Unit. If you're a Harlem World nostalgic missing Mase's molasses-y flow, his urgency here may be a bit of a disappointment. But even when he speed-raps, you can still hear his dimples in voice.
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I write about Millennials, workplace trends, and career mavericks.
My Millennial-aged girl friends and I never doubted that we would accomplish all of our life goals. Everything, thus far, has pretty much gone according to our plans. We were accepted into the right college, landed the dream job, and developed a network of amazing friends. Our apartments are beautifully decorated and we have closets full of stylish clothing. Romance hasn't been entirely sidelined, but we don't waste our time trying to cultivate a relationship unless someone is really amazing.
But now, a growing number of Millennial women are beginning to fret over the unanticipated consequences of prioritizing our careers before love. And I only need to look at my group of friends to see this reality. Again and again, year after year, my successful, gorgeous, and amazing friends remain kiss-less on New Year's Eve. And on Valentine's Day. And on the 4th of July. The only dateable men we encounter are either attached, gay, or otherwise involved in "it's complicated" situations. We are coming to the realization that we were unwittingly playing a game of musical chairs — while everyone was pairing up, those focused on our careers are left standing alone.
And we can't figure out what is happening.
"I don't think the issue is that men used to be great and now they're not," says Jezebel's Katie J.M. Baker. "Women used to feel more pressure to get married and have kids earlier, and prioritize those goals above the others." Add to that women's ability now to be self-sufficient financially and supported socially by so many friends in the same boat, it shouldn't be that surprising so many Millennial women are single. Except to us singletons, it isn't supposed to be this way.
When it comes to romance, Millennial women are typically described using several broad strokes that don't reflect nuance or contradictions. We are the hook-up generation. We are afraid of commitment. We are ball-busters or fairy-tale dreamers. Each cliché may have elements of truth, but the fuller story is a result of several influencing and interconnected factors.
For one, it's not as if we are holding out for Jake Gyllenhaal, but we do have certain non-negotiable expectations for potential mates that include college degrees and white-collar jobs. Life has always gone according to our plans, so why wouldn't we land a man with these (reasonable) requirements?
This unwillingness to settle for less than we think we deserve is joined by a lax attitude towards searching for potential mates. We're busy dominating the world. We don't have time to hang out at bars. While some of us explore online dating or take a more proactive approach, the majority of Millennial women have long assumed we would meet Prince Charming via friends, or through their own social circles. "Why should we waste our precious time and energy unless we meet someone we really connect with and care about?" asks Baker. "I think it's great that Millennial women are picky and don't feel as much pressure to be in monogamous relationships as did previous generations. I do think all Millennials, not just women, are used to the idea of being able to 'curate' experiences — that's why so many people are into online dating, because you can pick and choose character traits — and that makes people wary about settling down, especially when, in a city like New York, there are so many options."
Unfortunately these assumptions bump up against the growing inequality between the two genders. Millennial women have taken it for granted that they will pair up with equal partners. But increasingly, there aren't enough of these men to go around. Women now outnumber men on college campuses, and single, childless women out earn their male counterparts. In fact, as author Liza Mundy writes in her book, The Richer Sex, Millennial women are increasingly finding two options when it comes to romance: marry down or don't marry. "There needs to be a cognitive behavior change in what are [considered] important traits," says Mundy. "I talk to so many women who are obsessed with finding men on their level. They want someone as ambitious, engaged, and high-achieving as they are. They maybe need to rethink that to seek a partner who is supportive, rather than competitive."
Or, accomplished women hold firm in searching for impressive men to help them feel they are getting anything out of the partnership. "They have this list of qualities (smart, has a job, knows something about culture or the world, etc) that seem pretty reasonable, but so few men meet the requirements," says Melanie Shreffler, a marketing consultant on Millennial culture. "Going back centuries, it was just a contract between two parties. Love and even friendship or liking each other weren't important. If you were lucky, they developed over time. But now, we think we can find a guy who will be our best friend, our other half, who we will love before we marry. Finding that in a guy that we also find attractive makes the probability of finding a "good match" even less."
Plus, many Millennial women are in the uncertain "grey" age range where we aren't sure if we need to start stressing out over our single status and lower our standards. Or whether we simply need to remain patient that the right man will come along.
There is also an odd paradox in that Millennial women can be outright ambitious in their professional lives, but the same approach towards dating conveys desperation. "[Marriage] is a worthy goal," say Mundy. "It's strange that it's stigmatized. When women work as explicitly hard to find romance and they do for their careers, they are seen as man-hungry. It's a shame since studies show that marriage makes one healthier and happier. There's no shame in wanting a great life."
At the very least, Millennial women can always turn to those in relationships for helpful dating solutions. "If your utmost priority is to find a mate, maybe you should think about the qualities that are most important to you and keep that in mind when writing people off," says Baker. "But I don't want that to come off as me encouraging women to 'settle' — because I'd personally rather be single than in a relationship with someone who isn't worth it."
And there's always the popular suggestion to move to another state with a more favorable male-female ratio. It worked for my sister who found her boyfriend in Alaska.
Good solid summary of millinneal romance.
Millennials live in a social world where the rules of romance that existed when they were born did not apply when they reached maturity. So every relationship has to be negotiated with one's partner, as there are no rules for romance for this generation. What's impressive, however, is that those women who refuse to settle and finally do find a man to marry generally have great relationships. Yes, not everyone gets to do that in this brave new social world, but those who do get there have a very low divorce rate.
I understand the frustraion, however. The first question I hear when I gvie a presentation on romantic relationships is "where's the men?" or "why are men so intimated by successful women?" I try to be nice when I tell folks that when you earned the power to be in charge and act independently, it came at a price. Men have heard since the 60s that they're useless, and all to many have caved in and just given up trying to be something for somebody else. And doing their own thing is not getting them very far–with the exceptions of those few creative geniuses we hear about.
Upon reading this, I am so thankful for my wife and for her love. We met and got to know each other over the course of 3 years, and finally married when we realized we fully trusted each other. We found love, trust and friendship; things that matter.
Both her and I have already had to make personal sacrifices to get this far. For example, I had to extend my stay in an isolated city I hated because she wasn't ready to move elsewhere with me at the time, and this caused me to miss lots of professional opportunities. And now that we've moved, she's far from her family and must meet friends. But those three things – love, trust and friendship – carried us through.
The sad truth about your love life and in fact your entire life is that it's just been one long run towards the carrot that this culture collectively holds in front of itself. Stylish clothes, the "right" college, a "network" of friends, the apartment… think about the way you talk about your life. You are so focused on your acquisition of credentials and materials. That and your thoughts on finding a mate speak to your life philosophy, which is not "What's in it for me?" but rather is "What does this culture SAY is in it for me?"
Thus your obsession with the physical and professional credentials of the prospective mate. Just be honest with yourself – you're more concerned with how the relationship would appear, rather than what it really would be. Supposing tomorrow you really did find that perfectly credentialed guy, would it make you happy? Would it make both of you happy knowing you're constantly checking each other for signs of lost profitability? What if you had children and their behavior was not "right," as in it's different from the carrot you've been running after all your life and threatens your child's ability to run after the carrot. Would you be one of those mothers who gives prescription drugs to their kids to maintain their profitability to your (publicly visible) life? And what about when you grow so old and sick that you can't even go to the bathroom normally, will said child not just put you in a nursing home and wait out your passing, because taking care of you would likely result in social down-scaling?
To conclude, you ARE settling for less and you always have been. Peace.
The issue of so few acceptable men to date comes down to simple social physics. Basically, men differ from women in that they require women in their lives to mature during their formative years. The women spend their formative years working on their careers while the majority of men never grow up. Then when the women try to get married they can't find anyone because most of the men have been left behind in a permanent adolescent state, mentally ill or become homosexuals. The only current two solutions to this problem are to either force by law women to act as girlfriends or to create a completely virtual solution whereby young men have virtual augmented reality girlfriends who help them to grow up. Neither solution will be even technically possible for at least a decade so it remains up in the air what to do now.
"Basically, men differ from women in that they require women in their lives to mature during their formative years."
If the corollary was also true it would be saying that the author, and women like her, are immature because they focused on the female adolescent drive of pleasing others by achieving according to the standards of others. When what they really needed was a man in their lives to help them mature as a woman is expected to in this culture.
(Despite truth in extended adolescence of modern middle-class and above culture, I know the above is false, and I also know Gumaer's post is false. Individuals need various things to "mature"; there is no one-size-fits-all.)
I think one of the lessons of this generation is to not put off love and marriage if the opportunity presents itself. I'm not saying to grab the first guy who comes along if he's not the right fit for you, but I have many friends who avoided this problem by marrying in their early and mid 20s, some during college, some as young as 20 or 22. (Btw, I am a gen-x-er, and most of my friends have just turned 40.) They still went on to do graduate work and have careers and children. They and their husbands were facing the challenges of advancing their educations and starting out in their careers together. It wasn't always easy, but they made it through and divorced in no greater numbers than the general population. In fact, none of my good friends is divorced.
I think we need to stop thinking linearly about one life goal succeeding the previous one and realize that sometimes it's fine to work on them simultaneously.
Time to hit the sperm banks ladies!
Interesting piece. When you go up the ladder, it is normal to marry down. It is what men have been doing for ages.
When you get older and want to marry up or equal, how many free men will be there that correspond to your criteria?
The main point though is that it seems to me that you and your amazing friends are seeing relationship in a very one sided, egotistical way. Are you ready to change? Can you give? Why would a man want to marry you? You are too perfect.
"There needs to be cognitive behavior change" – to me that sounds like brainwashing and social engineering, the essence of some modern day feminist thoughts. It appears that at least some of them would love some kind of role reversal, boys playing with dolls and girls playing with guns if you will – just see their reaction to the Swedish Toy catalog. It's kind of ironic that an ideology called feminism is so determined in stomping out any femininity in women and tries to force it upon men.
Anyways, I think Ms. Faw has done very well analyzing the situation facing the privileged millennial woman, and I think a lot of the older men will just grin and say "told ya so!". While a good job with high income and a degree make a man more attractive, as she points out, the same doesn't hold true for a woman. Inequality would have helped with her relationship goals because then there would always be the higher/equal status men whom she and her friends desire. Men meanwhile still are mostly looking for youth and beauty, which is more likely to be found in younger women. So for all the forced social change, for all the self delusions, people are still the same as they were for ages. People who now claim surprise and disappointment have just had their head up their ass.
"Having it all" – Ladies, you are about to find out what men have known since the dawn of time: only a very few members of human-kind (historically male) get to "have it all."
The rest of us get to have "some," or "none-at-all." If we're lucky we get "most" of what we hope for from life. But don't let my appraisal of your chances of a "perfect" life get you down, you're obviously doing something right!
You, your small cohort of friends, and the few thousand like you gals, is not the set "Millennial women", or even "Professional Millennial women".
Psychologically speaking, everyone is imbalanced. Your problem with your inability to find acceptable mates is merely life telling you you've ignored one of your lesser-developed instincts, while focusing on your greater-developed instincts.
As a man for whom the mate-seeking instinct isn't as weak as yours, I don't understand. But I can sympathize based on the fact that credentials have little pull for me, and that this attitude has brought up serious issues in my own life.
Bet my standardized test scores are significantly higher than yours, despite the fact my HS and college GPAs are in the tank compared to yours! Which is one of the reasons you value credentialed men, while I found a very smart, very knowledgeable, but un-degreed woman.


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By Konstantine Fekos
Meadville Tribune
More than 40 faculty positions and five academic majors at Edinboro University may be cut as part of a proposed plan released by school administrators, who are trying to balance a $5.5 million structural deficit for the current fiscal year.
The proposal would make way for programs that may foster better enrollment and growth, President Julie Wollman said Wednesday.
Also outlined were several factors administrators claim influenced the university's current deficit, including declines in high school enrollment in the northeast U.S., EUP enrollment and state funding as well as an increase in unspecified fixed costs.
"We don't know what's being cut," Wollman said, stressing the plan's preliminary status regarding "the budget, costs of different areas and alternatives we've put on the table."
Discussions regarding alternatives to retrenchment and faculty cuts have been held most notably between administrators and the Association of Pennsylvania State College and University Faculties (APSCUF) with another meeting scheduled for this Friday.
Jean Jones, president of Edinboro University's APSCUF chapter and professor of communication, felt the report blindsided faculty upon its alleged university-wide release.
"I cannot express how disappointed I am, not only with the plan, but also with the process the administration has used to release (it)," Jones said Wednesday. "Since it involves cutting faculty jobs, the administration should have discussed it with APSCUF before making it public."
Also outlined in the proposal are Bachelor of Arts degrees in German, music, music education, philosophy and world languages and cultures, which may be eliminated aside from minor studies and general education classes.
The proposal indicates "so little student demand" and a "declining trend in interest" in the aforementioned majors, Wollman said. "(They're) not viable any longer."
"Unless there's some sort of miracle, the philosophy major will go to moratorium," said Dr. Corbin Fowler, philosophy professor.
Fowler, one of three remaining philosophy instructors in the newly restructured English and Liberal Studies department, isn't happy about the idea, but he believes it to be inevitable.
"I would be astonished if there was a reversal," he said. "They want to reduce the remaining three (philosophy professors) to two in order to save money."
Programs graduating less than six majors a year over a five-year period are considered for moratorium, Fowler said.
As a result, the university may instead focus on new or revised programs which indicate potential growth, including animation and digital arts, integrated media production, industrial psychology and forensic computing.
"(The proposal) is very preliminary," said Anthony Peyronel, chairperson of the communication and media studies department. "We appreciate our department being seen as having the potential for growth, but there aren't a lot of specifics at this point."
Continued talks with faculty and staff regarding the proposal may carry well into next fall, according to Wollman.
Jones emphasized APSCUF's continued attempts to work with administration in finding alternatives to retrenchment.
"I think it's also safe to say that management's actions (Wednesday) will likely change the tone of Friday's meeting," she said. "If retrenchment letters go out, we're still going to the table hoping to find alternatives to what they're proposing."
The administration's deadline to send a retrenchment letter to tenured faculty is Oct. 30, in accordance with the APSCUF collective bargaining agreement.
Wollman reported 80 percent of the university's budget as personnel and administration needs to look at potentially overstaffed areas given the current 16:5 student to faculty ratio.
"(The ratio) is misaligned," she said. "There are fewer students and too many faculty (members)."
EUP has already cut 11 unspecified managerial positions with another 13 managerial and staff positions considered under the proposal, Wollman added.
The Tribune's attempts to contact additional department chairpersons and student government were unsuccessful.
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