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Germany's Black Forest and Cologne
After visiting Germany's greatest Gothic Cathedral in Cologne, we'll enjoy the good life German-style at a top mineral spa and try our luck at the Versailles of casinos in Baden-Baden, then crank some old-time music and explore an open-air museum in the romantic Black Forest.
Travel Details
Hotel Am Markt
Marktplatz 18
Tel. 07221/27040
Fax 07221/270-444
Baths of Caracalla
For a modern experience, spend a few hours at the Baths of Caracalla, a huge palace of water, steam, and relaxed people. More like a mini-water park, and with everyone clothed most of the time, this is a more fun and accessible experience for those intimidated by nudity. The baths are an indoor/outdoor wonderland of steamy pools, waterfalls, neck showers, Jacuzzis, hot springs, cold pools, lounge chairs, saunas, a cafeteria, and a bar. After taking a few laps around the fake river, you can join some kinky Germans for water spankings (you may have to wait a few minutes to grab a vacant waterfall). Then join the gang in the central cauldron. The steamy "inhalation" room seems like purgatory's waiting room, with a misty minimum of visibility, filled with strange, silently aging bodies. Nudity is limited to one zone upstairs (Römerplatz 1, tel. 07221/275-940).
The highlight of most visits to Baden-Baden is a sober two-hour ritual called the Roman-Irish Bath. Friedrichsbad pampered the rich and famous in its elegant surroundings when it opened 120 years ago. Today, this steamy world of marble, brass columns, tropical tiles, herons, lily pads, and graceful nudity welcomes gawky tourists as well as locals (Römerplatz 1, tel. 07221/275-920).
Baden-Baden Casino
The impressive building called the Kurhaus is wrapped around a grand casino. Built in the 1850s in wannabe-French style, it was declared "the most beautiful casino" by Marlene Dietrich. Inspired by the Palace of Versailles, it's filled with rooms honoring French royalty who never set foot in the place. But many other French did. Gambling was illegal in 19th-century France...just over the border. The casino is licensed on the condition that it pay 92 percent of its earnings in taxes to fund the state. The amount of revenue it generates to help the state fund social services is a mystery, but insiders estimate that it's more than $30 million a year. The staff of 150 is paid by tips from happy gamblers.
You can visit the casino on a guided tour in the mornings, when it's closed to gamblers, but the casino is most interesting to see in action, after 14:00. You can gamble if you want, but a third of the visitors come only to people-watch under the chandeliers. The scene is more subdued than at an American casino; anyone showing emotion is more likely a tourist than a serious gambler. Lean against a gilded statue and listen to the graceful reshuffling of personal fortunes. Do some imaginary gambling or buy a few chips at the window near the entrance (no tennis shoes, tie and coat and collared shirt required for men and can be rented, passport absolutely required, under 21 not admitted, liveliest after dinner and later, pick up English history and game rules as you enter, Kaiserallee 1, tel. 07221/30240).
Black Forest Open-Air Museum
This offers the best look at this region's traditional folk life. Built around one grand old farmhouse, the museum is a collection of several old farms filled with exhibits on the local dress and lifestyles. Make time for the grain mill (north of Triberg, through Hornberg to Hausach/Gutach on road B33/E-531, tel. 07831/93560).
See the Travel Details above for recommendations highlighted in bold, excerpted from Rick's guidebooks.
[1] Hi, I'm Rick Steves, taking time out from writing my guidebooks to be your travel partner. This time, we're back for more of Germany and we're here with the family. Thanks for joining us.
After visiting Germany's greatest Gothic Cathedral. We'll enjoy the good life German-style at a top mineral spa, try our luck at the Versailles of casinos, crank some old time music and explore the romantic Black Forest with my favorite travel partners: Anne, Andy and Jackie.
In this series, Europe's our playground — and Germany's in the heart of the fun. After a stop at historic Cologne we ride the train to the resort spa of Baden Baden, then hop south through the highlights of the Black Forest.
We're crossing the Rhine and coming into Cologne.
There's a lot to see in Cologne. But our first mission... stow these bags. Station lockers work great.
Rick: First we need to find our train out of here.
Later we'll be heading for Baden Baden — our train leaves at 16:09. That gives us just enough time for a quick look at Germany's fourth-largest city.
The train drops you in the shadow of Cologne's great cathedral in a compact and people-friendly center.
We'll see quaint small town Germany later. And that's fun, but modern Germany isn't sitting on a stump, wearing lederhosen and yodeling. It's a no-nonsense lean and mean business machine with 80 million people packed into a country the size of Montana.
This arch was the north gate of the Roman city. It reminds us that this street — and city — have been thriving for 2,000 years. Medieval Cologne was Germany's biggest city — the crosspoint of two major trading routes.
While World War II bombs destroyed 95 percent of the city center, there's not a hint of that today on what locals claim is Germany's first pedestrian shopping mall.
After the war, the traffic-free Old Town was rebuilt with a park and riverside bike paths. Many Rhine cruises start from here. The Rhine was the northern boundary of the Roman Empire.
This museum is filled with Roman artifacts — perhaps the finest in Germany.
Anne: But when traveling with kids, we're good for one major sight a day... and today that's the Cologne Cathedral.
This is Germany's most art-packed Gothic church.
Cologne has long been a religious center — perhaps the most important in Germany. 1,700 years ago, Constantine — the first Christian Roman emperor — gave Cologne its own bishop.
The Cathedral facade, while finished according to the original 13th century plan, is "neo-Gothic" from the 19th century. See the tip of that spire 500 feet high? Here's a life-size replica.
This church makes you feel small. It's designed to... it reminds us of our place in the vast scheme of things. Stained glass — enough to cover two football fields — bathes the church with divine light.
The church was begun roughly 700 years ago. But it wasn't completed until 1880 — just about in time to celebrate the unification of so many German states into one modern Germany.
This mosaic shows an archbishop holding the earlier cathedral that stood on this spot centuries before this one was built.
Religious relics were a big deal back then and Cologne had some of the most important. This sumptuous 800-year-old reliquary holds the bones of the Magi... three skulls with golden crowns.
These "Three Kings" of Christmas carol fame were, after their trip to Bethlehem, considered the first Christian pilgrims. They've inspired countless pilgrims from medieval to modern times to visit Cologne.
And Pilgrims brought in lots of money. That's why Cologne decided to build this magnificent and much bigger church.
Another pilgrimage stop and the art treasure of the cathedral is the Gero Crucifix — carved in 976. With a realism and sensitivity 300 years ahead of its time, it shows what the crucifixion was all about: the human Jesus was dead. It's great art and powerful theology in one.
On the way out, find the statue of St. Christopher — the patron saint of travelers. He's always the big guy with the pilgrims' staff and Jesus on his shoulder. For 500 years he's looked out for pilgrims and travelers alike.
We've got ten minutes to catch our 16:09 train. Packing light is even more important for train travelers than for those traveling by car.
Families need to pack light too. Each kid carries his or her own stuff. Our limit: one carry-on-the-plane-sized bag per person.
With speedy trains and frequent departures, town hopping by train is a breeze. We've had a taste of big city Germany. Now it's time for romantic forests, cuckoo clocks, and Germany's top spa town.
Baden Baden specializes in utter restfulness. This is where Germany recharges its batteries.
Public transportation in Europe makes travel without a car easy. In Baden Baden, the tourist needs only bus #201.
Buses run every ten minutes. Buy tickets from the driver, validate by stamping a time on it, 24-hour tickets can be a great deal, and remember...
Jackie: Kids go cheaper.
Number 201 runs from the train station straight through the town center. Like many European old town centers, Baden Baden's is closed to private vehicles and serviced by a great bus system.
19th century Baden Baden was the playground of Europe's high-rolling elite. Royalty and aristocracy would come from all corners to soak in the curative mineral waters-and enjoy one of the world's top casinos. Today this town of 55,000 attracts a more middle-class crowd, tourists in search of a lower pulse and Germans enjoying the fruits of their generous health care system.
Hotel am Markt is my vote for Baden Baden's best small and friendly hotel. Herr and Frau Bogner offer expert travel advice, comfortable rooms, and a great price.
It's inexpensive because it's family-run and there's no night clerk, TVs or mini bars. Andy and Jackie have settled right in.
For me, a hotel's location matters most. We're right in the cobbled old center, the baths are just a block away, and it's quiet.... [bells] Thankfully the bells stop at 10 pm.
For me, the highlight of Baden Baden is a visit to the Baths. There was a mineral bath here in Roman times. It's been said that Emperor Caracalla himself may have soaked away his rheumatism right here.
Today there are two very different baths. A baby sitter we arranged through our hotel is taking our kids to the modern water park called the Caracalla Baths. This huge complex comes with the therapeutic works — but to some customers, it's simply lots of wet fun.
Meanwhile, Anne and I are going to the more aristocratic Friedrichsbad for a sober 2-hour ritual called the Roman-Irish Bath.
For the cost of a good dinner, you get the works. Men and women are separated for most of the routine. The ticket gets you in... releases your locker key, and gets you out — as long as you finish within three hours.
Attendants help you stay on course.
Attendant: The first time? We take shoes, you have a shower, then you go on, okay?
Rick: Danke.
Freidrichsbad is powered by a steady river of hot and therapeutic mineral water. After a welcoming shower, you soak and sit in an series of peaceful pools and exquisitely tiled sauna rooms.
The routine seems complex — especially when you're naked, new here, and don't speak the language. Thankfully, multi-lingual signs, arrows and numbers lead you from room to room.
Ahhh, stop number six is a highlight: the soap brush massage is rough, slippery, and finished with a good Teutonic spank.
You'll glide like a swan under a divine dome in the central pool. This is the one "mixed" area — shared by men and women. The dress code is always nude. Being your average American, that took some getting used to. But once inside you find it's an elegant experience — sedate and safe.
A great thing about travel is contrast. After all this hot water, there's no better contrast than a cold plunge.
After the icy plunge the attendant dries you in warm towels. Finally, wrapped in a cocoon, you lay clean and thinking prenatal thoughts in the mellow yellow silent room.
Traditionally, bathers cap the experience with a sip of the thermal water. After Freidrichsbad you'll feel, as they say, five years younger-or at least no older.
At the Baden Baden Casino, the gambling starts in the afternoon and goes until the wee hours.
Coat and tie are required... and rentable. I guess this one'll do.
Built in the 1850s, this is — according to Marlene Dietrich — the most beautiful casino in the world. Inspired by the Palace of Versailles, it's filled with rooms honoring French royalty — who never set foot in the place.
Anyone over 21 is welcome to try their luck. But you don't need to gamble. In fact, a third of those who go in just observe. Linger under goldfinger cupids and listen to the graceful reshuffling of personal fortunes.
The next morning we took the 30-minute tour the Casino gives daily — the only time kids are allowed inside.
Guide: Now a little bit in English. You are in our most beautiful gambling hall, the Florentine Hall. And Dostoyevski, a Russian writer, liked to gamble here in this room. He visited the room often, and described it in his work, The Gambler.
The casino may be the toast of Baden Baden...but it's the bread and butter too.
Guide: You are now in the private casino, and the private owners must pay concession for gambling, that means that since long years they must pay 90 percent, 9-0, to the land of Baden-Wertenbag for having the concession.
The casino wins 35 million a year and 90 percent of that goes back to the city and state in taxes.
More aristocratic Old World elegance surrounds the casino — offering charms even the newly penniless can enjoy. The Trinkhalle's 300-foot-long portico is decorated with frescoes recalling romantic local legends.
Back when Baden Baden was famous as the summer capital of Europe, this was the place to see and be seen. Kaiser Wilhelm the first was a regular here for 40 years.
He may have enjoyed the Baden Baden Philharmonic just as visitors do today.
Baden Baden seems made-to-order for strolling. Bestow a royal title on yourself and promenade down the famous Lichtentaler Allee. Prince Andrew and Countess Jackie don't quite get it. The lane meanders along the Oos River past grand old spa hotels built in Royal fashion during Baden Baden's 19th century heyday. This art nouveau rose garden — with dozens of kinds of roses — is a fragrant bonus.
Baden Baden is a gateway to Germany's Black Forest — a range of thickly wooded hills stretching 100 miles south along the French border. Rural areas like this are easier by car so we've rented one for this part of our trip.
The Black Forest is a hit with German holiday-goers — city folk whose doctors have prescribed some serious "R and R"... and families... out a-wanderin'.
And, like the locals, our family enjoys the fresh air, great views and wide open spaces that come with a good Black Forest walk.
Thickly wooded and, for centuries, isolated and mysterious, people called this the Black Forest... that's "Schwarzwald". Now, rather than black, it's a bright and sunny vacation land. But even today, in remote villages and farmsteads, local dialects survive and traditions are strong.
Staufen is an ideal small-town base for exploring the southern trunk of the Black Forest. Rolling or strolling through the pedestrian-friendly cobbled lanes... or day dreaming under gingerbread buildings, the town's a delight. Staufen is a good example of why — for many travelers — Europe's charms are best found in small town packages.
Perched above the town, a 15th century castle — ruined by the Swedes in the Thirty Years War — today seems only to protect the vineyards.
Staufen is on Germany's wine road and locals here are proud of their hometown wine. Germany's forte is white wine.
Waitress: This is wine from the castle.
Rick: Okay, Good.
Waitress: Cheers!
It comes trocken, halb-trocken, or suss — that's dry, half-dry, or sweet.
Cuckoo clocks are one of the region's touristic claims to fame — and around here, time really is money.
Shops are perpetually wound up and ready to greet the tourists.
Rick: Now I see this tiny little word here, does that say Switzerland?
Guide: No, that says Germany. They are all made in Black Forest.
Rick: Completely? Every little part is from the Black Forest? Why are there three pine cones?
Guide: One is for the cuckoo, the second one is for the clock, and the third is for the music.
Rick: Can we try?
Guide: Yes, I will show you.
The town of Furtwangen's impressive German clock museum offers more than a chorus of cuckoo clocks. It traces the development of time-keeping devices from the dark age to the space age.
Black Forest clocks date back to the 17th century. Simple and made almost entirely of wood, they were the first affordable clocks. And accurate?... to within 30 minutes a day.
From here, clocks evolved. The local knack for mechanical cleverness found fun ways to announce the hour — like the Dumpling Eater. At 3 o'clock he eats three dumplings... or at least one dumpling three times.
Over time, locals mixed automation into their clock making. Here, when this super clock from 1880, strikes noon, the apostles pass before Christ, each bowing as they're blessed.
From these same villages and same techniques came fanciful music boxes. The calliope is a classic. This one's called "an orchestra in a cupboard". And it takes no practice to play the grind organ.
Smart parents punctuate their sightseeing with breaks... and we're munching the famous... and extremely decadent Schwarzwald Kirschtorte... that's Black Forest cherry cake.
Rick: Jackie, tell me what's in your cake.
Jackie: There is chocolate, whipped cream, almonds, and of course, cherries.
Rick: And a little bit of schnapps.
The Black Forest Open-Air Museum is near the village of Gutach. It's a creative folk life show-and-tell housed in original buildings moved here from all around the Black Forest.
The museum staff is happy to explain the exhibits. Around the turn of the first millennium, Europe harnessed the power of the wind and water with mills like this.
Ingrid: This corn needs to be ground four times to get the real flour out.
Rick: Ingrid, what's the mask for?
Ingrid: They were superstitious back then and this kept the fungus away.
With no shortage of animals to feed and traditional crafts to learn about, open-air folk museums are great for families.
Ingrid: Because of the poor farm land, locals needed alternatives. They did basket weaving like this man, glass-blowing, clock-making, and forestry. In fact, this mill is one of only three still working in the Black Forest.
Whether grinding flour or making planks from Black Forest logs, small but powerful innovations like these kicked off a chain of industrialization which helped to shape the Europe travelers enjoy today.
From modern Cologne, to elegant Baden Baden to old time Black Forest hideaways — and with the kids, I hope you've enjoyed our look at this slice of Germany.
Thanks for joining us. I'm Rick Steves. Until next time, keep on travelin'.


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The permit for a Hamilton Mill area restaurant was suspended Jan. 3 after numerous violations were noted in a health inspection report. According to the report, restaurant management was instructed to call to schedule an opening inspection on Jan. 4. See below for details from the report.
El Molcajete
2590 Hamilton Mill Road, Suite 110, Buford
Score: 69
Last inspection: 1/3/13
Click here for report.
Observations and corrective actions:
- Violation of Code: [.03(5)(j)1&2 ] Employee drinks, without straws & lids, stored on top of cold top cooler, hot holding cabinet. Drinks were discarded. Employees shall consume food only in approved designated areas separate from food preparation and serving areas, equipment or utensil areas and food storage areas. Drinks shall be in a single service beverage cup with a secure lid and straw. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.07(3)(b) ] Empty paper towel dispenser in the prep area. Paper towel restocked. Ensure paper towel is stocked at all handsinks. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.06(2)(o) ] Knife stored in kitchen handsink. Wiping cloth stored in service station handsink. Knife, wiping cloth removed from sinks. A handwashing sink shall be maintained so that it is accessible at all times for employee use. A handwashing facility may not be used for purposes other than handwashing. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.04(4)(c)1(i)-(iii),(v),(viii) ] Raw chicken, raw beef stored above raw fish in the line drawer cooler. Fish moved above chicken, beef. Raw shell eggs stored behind ready-to-eat sausage, cut tomatoes in the cold top cooler - contamination risk. These foods were discarded because they >41F. Raw hamburger stored above raw fish in the 6 door freezer. Raw hamburger and raw fish stored above ready-to-eat tamales and pizza in the 6 door cooler. Raw chicken stored directly on top of raw hamburger in the 6 door cooler. Pizza & tamales moved above raw animal foods. Raw animal foods organized by minimum cooking temperatures. Unwashed produce above uncovered salsa in the walkin cooler. Unwashed produce moved away from salsa. Food shall be protected from cross contamination by:(i) Separating raw animal foods during storage, preparation, holding, and display from: (I) Raw ready-to-eat food including other raw animal food such as fish for sushi or molluscan shellfish, or other raw ready-to-eat food such as fruits and vegetables, and (II) Cooked ready-to-eat food. Separate raw animal foods by minimum cooking temperature. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.04(6)(f) ] Potentially hazardous foods in the right side of the cold top cooler were >41F; foods on the left side of the cooler were 41F. Cut tomatoes 45F, sausage 52F, 56F; Fresco cheese 45F; American cheese 50F; raw shell eggs 47F. Foods were discarded. Sour cream cold holding for 6 hours in the cold top reachin cooler was 45F-47F. Sour cream discarded. Potentially hazardous foods in the walkin cooler were >41F; see temperature chart; ambient air temperature of cooler was 56F. Foods that were cold holding were discarded; foods that were cooling were moved to the 6 door freezer. Person in charge called for service in the morning; the service person had not yet arrived. Potentially hazardous food (time/temperature control for safety food) shall be maintained at
- 41°F (5°C) or below. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.04(6)(d) ] Refried beans cooling in the walkin cooler for 2 hours were 115F, 108F, 110F; not cooled to 70F within 2 hours. Beans were discarded. Cooked potentially hazardous food (time/temperature control for safety food) shall be cooled: (i) Within 2 hours from 135°F (57°C) to 70°F (21°C); and (ii) Within a total of 6 hours from 135°F (57°C) to 41°F (5°C). IF THIS IS A REPEAT VIOLATION ON THE NEXT INSPECTION, YOUR PERMIT MAY BE SUSPENDED. Corrected On-Site. Repeat Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.04(6)(g) ] Flan, black beans, refried beans, soup were not date marked. Foods were dated or discared because temperature was >41F. Refrigerated, ready-to-eat, potentially hazardous food (time/temperature control for safety food) prepared and held in a food establishment for more than 24 hours shall be clearly marked to indicate the date or day by which the food shall be consumed on the premises, sold, or discarded, which is including the day of preparation a maximum of seven (7) calendar days from the day the food is prepared if the food is maintained at 41°F (5°C) or below. Corrected On-Site. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.04(6)(e) ] Salsa (multiple containers) and chicken were cooling in deep, plastic containers on the prep table. There were 2 ice paddles in the chicken. Person in charge stated they cool these foods this way for 3 hours, then put them into the walkin cooler. Beans were cooling in mostly covered, deep, plastic containers, pyramid stacked 3 containers high, in the walkin cooler, below food held cold. Cooling shall be accomplished by using one or more of the following methods based on the type of food being cooled: (i) Placing the food in shallow pans; (ii) Separating the food into smaller or thinner portions; (iii) Using rapid cooling equipment; (iv) Stirring the food in a container placed in an ice water bath; (v) Using containers that facilitate heat transfer; (vi) Adding ice as an ingredient; or (vii) Other effective methods. 2. When placed in cooling or cold holding equipment, food containers in which food is being cooled shall be: (i) Arranged in the equipment to provide maximum heat transfer through the container walls; and (ii) Loosely covered, or uncovered if protected from overhead contamination during the cooling period to facilitate heat transfer from the surface of the food. New Violation.
- Violation of Code: [.05(3)(a) ] Sufficient equipment not provided for cold-holding foods; walkin cooler not properly working; ambient air temperature 56F. Person in charge called for service this morning; service person has not arrived yet. New Violation.
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Hi z4racing. If you are in an area that has a decent level of competition, I suspect that you should be able to get a 2005 Z4 for a few hundred dollars over dealer invoice minus any incentives. You can find the invoice price of the exact car that you are considering by looking in the following section of this site: Edmunds.com New Vehicle Pricing. You also may be able to get a feel for how much you will have to pay for this car by visiting the following discussion: "BMW Z4: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
The incentives that I mentioned earlier are the $3,000 dealer cash that BMW is providing on 2005 BMW Z4 2.5 models and $5,000 that is has on on Z4 3.0 models.
Once you have an idea of the selling price that you want to pay, let me know and I can use BMW's actual lease program to estimate what your car's lease payment should be like.
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Hello Addi. This car's lease program varies depending upon how long you lease it for and how many miles per year you are allowed to drive. For now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. If you were to lease a 2006 BMW Z4 3.0i through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00175 and 57%, respectively. You've made a good choice in the '06 Z4. I am amazed by the fact that this car fills the price slot of the old 2.5 model but it has more horsepower than the top of the line 3.0 used to.
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Thanks Car_man for the info. I usually lease for 12.0m miles; however, for the time being I will use the 15.0m you supplied. Also, they are giving a $1,200 cash to dealer through 4/30/06. I was also quite pleased when I received the new catalog on the Z4 showing the horsepower and torque. They have thrown in a few upgrades to justify the new price structure. Have a good day. I appreciate.
My lease is up on my current 2003 Z4 on May 23rd. I am planning on leasing a 2006, however I don't want to take delivery on my new car for three weeks after my lease end date because I Will be away. Can I extend my lease by one month and how does that work? I actually took delivery on the 2003 three weeks early because the car came in earlier than expected. Also, they are currently offering a $1500.00 incentive on the 2006 through April 30th. Should I take my chances and see what is offered in May? Any info you could give me on this will be greatly appreciated.
BMW FS' specific policy on this matter, but I suspect that like most banks it allows its lessees to extend their leases for a couple of months at their current payment. It's difficult to say what BMW's incentives will be like on the '06 Z4 in May. Its current program for this car is scheduled to run through April 30th. Given the fact that BMW only introduced the '06 Z4 in Mid-February and it already has begun to provide fairly aggressive incentives on it, I doubt that you have to worry about the support on this car disappearing, but only time will tell exactly what will happen for certain.
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gokhangulec Posts: 23Hey Car_man,
I am planning to lease a 06 Z4 si:
price: ~ 44000
15K for 36 months
You said MFR is 0.00125 and residual 57%. What about negotiating the price of the car? Do you think I can take this down to invoice? Below invoice? Do they have any rebates from BMW?
Thanks a lot.
PS: I've a 05 Z4 2.5, stick with premium pack and I am paying 370$ per month inc. taxes. (15k for 27 months, and this includes tire insurrance) I thought I could trade this lease to somebody else pretty quickly.
Hi Car_Man.
Do you have MF and residuals for the 06 M Roadster Lease?
Also, I'm turning in my '03 Z4 3.0 in pristine condition with only 15000 miles. Can I ask the dealer to buy this car back from me since, according to KBB and NADA and Edmunds, it is worth thousands more than the residual? I thought maybe we could split the difference so that I wouldn't have to sell it myself and use that money as cap cost reduction on the new lease. Crazy?
Thank You!
Car Man,
I am now thinking that I may want to re-lease my current 2003 Z4 for one additional year. Would BMW do a one year lease? I would only want a one year lease and not a two year. What do you think the cost of doing this would be? I like the color and looks of my Z4 more than anything they offer on the 2006 model year. Any information that you could give me regarding this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Car Man! :confuse:
Hey gokhangulec. BMW is already providing $1,500 dealer cash on the 2006 Z4 3.0si. As a result, you definitely should be able to get one for at least dealer invoice, and probably a little below. Make sure to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars recently: "BMW Z4: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
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Hi Sam. Unfortunately, BMW is not currently providing any sort of lease support on the M Roadster, which by the way is a great car to drive . As a result, if you were to lease one through BMW Financial Services right now, you would have to use its standard lease money factor. BMW FS' current buy rate standard lease money factor is .00300. This car's residual value will depend upon how long you lease it for and how many miles per year you are allowed to drive it. If you were to lease an '06 M Roadster through BMW FS right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its residual value should be 54%.
If your car is actually worth more than its residual value, there is a decent chance that you can profit from it by working with a dealer. You may want to stop by the following discussion for an extremely accurate assessment of your car's current value: "Real-World Trade-In Values".
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MILLEDGEVILLE — Work sessions could be added to the Baldwin County Board of Commissioners monthly schedule. Pending regular meeting approval, the first called session is tentatively scheduled Thursday, Jan. 31.
Commissioners Tommy French (District 2) and Johnny Westmoreland (District 5) were appointed by commission chair Sammy Hall (District 3) to research the notion after the first monthly gathering last Wednesday. Staff collected information about other counties' work session protocol.
Both assigned commissioners and staff met Thursday to brainstorm the right course of action.
County attorney David McRee said the board has flexibility with the setup. The commission can establish any structure or conduct code particular to the work session.
McRee suggested establishing a trial run before making any changes to the code of ordinances.
When county manager Ralph McMullen arrived 20 years ago, he said the commissioners had work sessions that morphed into various committee meetings.
Both commissioners agree that work sessions provide the board and the community with more time to hash things out.
County finance director Dawn Hudson said additional meetings are vital to public education. Instead of discussion behind county doors, the work sessions could help the community understand the issues.
McRee mentioned the commission could vote during a work session, as long as the meeting is established by the code of ordinances or called and posted effectively.
County representatives debated meeting procedures for public participation adopted by the previous board set at two minutes. This time limit applies to all open meetings.
McRee said the public comment portion would have to be amended or the commission would have to setup different rules for work sessions if it deemed more speaking time necessary.
Work session recommendations for every fourth Thursday around 6 p.m. are on Wednesday's regular meeting agenda.
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Nampa police arrested Susana Cordova Quijano, 34, of Nampa in Caldwell late Sunday afternoon.
She is charged with second degree homicide in the stabbing death of her 36-year-old boyfriend. Police have not released the victim's name.
The victim's roommate called police to their home in the 500 block of North Franklin Street in Nampa at around 7:20 p.m. Saturday. They found the victim at the home. He had been stabbed once in the chest. He was taken to a local hospital and was pronounced dead.
Neighbors gave police information to identify Quijano as a suspect. Police found her walking down the street in Caldwell. They arrested her without incident. She is being held at Canyon County Jail without bond.
At a press conference Sunday, Sgt. Tim Randall with the Nampa Police said the homicide appears to be the result of a domestic dispute between Quijano and the victim. The couple had a history of domestic violence.
Police have not located the murder weapon. They believe it was a knife.
Quijano will be arraigned at 1:30 p.m. Tuesday at Canyon County Courthouse.


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Continuing a tradition that began in 1900, St. Barnabas Charities will provide free holiday meals to community members alone or in need.
Free, traditional turkey dinners, complete with all the trimmings, will be served on Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, Nov. 22, at the two nursing homes operated by St. Barnabas Health System.
Meals will be served from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the dining room of St. Barnabas Nursing Home, 5827 Meridian Road, Gibsonia.
The dinners will also be offered from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the dining room at Valencia Woods at St. Barnabas, 85 Charity Place, Valencia.
Reservations are appreciated but not necessary by calling St. Barnabas Nursing Home in Gibsonia at (724) 443-0700, or Valencia Woods at St. Barnabas in Valencia at (724) 625-4000.
No questions will be asked of those enjoying the dinners and confidentiality will be honored.
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The offseason.
Oddly, I dont think Ive looked forward to an offseason this much in years. For starters, itll be nice to see what a Terry Ryan can do when hes in charge right from the beginning. Also, there is at least a 50-50 chance that we see a long-time Twin player traded. We get to (hopefully) watch a rotation be built via the deepest free agent starting pitching market in several years. There is even a Twins prospect already strutting his stuff in the Arizona Fall League.
(Ill admit, there are also some personal reasons Im excited for the offseason too. At the top of the list is Twins Daily. Being able to count on a Twins story every day, and being able to jump read and discuss all the rumors and implications of trades and signings is going to be awesome. Second is Gleeman and the Geek. I really enjoyed getting together with Aaron Gleeman on a weekly basis, throw back some beers and talk baseball for a few hours.)
So lets look ahead to what we can expect .
- October 24th The release of the TwinsCentric Offseason Handbook. (Also, the 1st game of the World Series.)
- The End of the World Series Eligible players can file to become free agents. (Also, when the TwinsCentric Offseason Handbook 30% discount expires.)
- Sixth day after the World Series Free agent market opens. Teams can sign free agents.
- December 3-6 Baseballs Winter Meetings, which means plenty of trade talk.
- December 6 Rule 5 Draft
- January 25-27 Twins Fest
If this year is anything like last year, expect Terry Ryan to move fairly quickly. Last year he had almost everything wrapped up by Christmas, signing
- Jamey Carroll on November 16th
- Ryan Doumit on November 23rd
- Matt Capps on December 6th
- Josh Willingham on December 15th
- Jason Marquis on December 22nd
- Joel Zumaya on January 18th
There is a man after my own heart. Not only does he make moves fast, but he has the decency to do so on a weekly basis so I can spread them out over winters worth of podcasts.


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I celebrated with a religious costume last night:What? I didn't say it was a serious religion. Tonight I'll probably celebrate by reading more papers for class and getting some coding done. Grad students are pretty scary.
Oct 30 2010
Natural genes no longer able to be patented
From the NY Times: Reversing a longstanding policy, the federal government said on Friday that human and other genes should not be eligible for patents because they are part of nature. The new position could have a huge impact on medicine and on the biotechnology industry. I feel as someone starting their PhD in Genome …
Oct 29 2010
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Oct 29 2010
Anyone doing NaNoWriMo?
Every year as October comes to an end, I get excited for three things: 1. Halloween! It's my favorite holiday. What's not to love about dressing up in silly costumes?2. The day after Halloween. Fuck yeah, half priced candy!3. My birthday, wooo! But there's one thing that I simultaneously look forward to and fear: National …
Oct 29 2010
Indiana doesn't care about GLBT rights? Shocking
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Oct 28 2010
I'm published! …Wait a second
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Oct 28 2010
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Oct 27 2010
Want to make some easy cash?
Christine O'Donnell's campaign is offering $1,000 to anyone who can show that separation of church and state is in the Constitution. Wait, what's that? They want that exact phrase, even though the concept is well understood through case law? Whoops, how silly of me to think a Teabagger running for office would have a better …
Oct 26 2010
Troll physics explained
Rage comics are one of my guilty pleasures. Combine them with my love for science, and you can't go wrong. A physics professor was asked to explain the (lack of) science behind some of the funnier "Troll physics" comics. Here's one of my favorites: "DM: Jumping off the ground – or even a chair on …


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Traction Bars, axle wrap and wheel hop
I am looking at getting some traction bars for my truck. I have always had an issue with the vibration at take off since the lift. I added the spacer on the carrier bearing and that had helped. Since then I went to a 5" block instead of the 4" block. For a while now the vibration at take off has been getting worse and I think may be leading to some of the driveline problems I have been fighting. I thought about a bigger spacer but I think the driveline angle looks pretty good and a bigger spacer I think would put to big an angle at the transfer case. So I am looking at traction bars.
Procomp makes one but wants something around $500 and most other ladder bars are like that. Now tough country makes a lighter duty bar that goes on the leaf spring to frame (and is $130). I am not doing drag races so this would probably work with my driving. the question is with the 5" block does anyone think that this other type will still work since the bar doesnt attach to the axle per say. would it still allow axle wrapping?
Here is a link to the one I am looking at.
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Interesting issue David...here is a little bump for ya.
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Those look something like the load leveling kit that @SurrealOne installed http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/sho...pension-Review
I don't know how effective they would be at stopping wheel hop. It may help some with wrap. But, with the bars being so short, and the mounting plate being so far away (5") from the axle, I think that you may have leverage working against you. I had the procomp with the duel shock kit on my truck. The mounting plate mounts right on the axle. I never had an issue with wheel hop or axle wrap again. They looked awesome and worked very well.
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I saw that thread by surrealone originally a while back, they looked good but I already have airbags and at the time of the write up wasnt thinking my issue may be wheel hop/wrap. I ordered the tuff country's yesterday so I will probably install them next Saturday (not tomorrow). I will post how they worked on the vibration (hopefully it works or the wife will be pissed . I can hear it now. "spending more money on the truck?"). It definately wont do as much as ladder bars but if it does enough for the vibration then I'll be happy. Now the only thing I am worried about with fit is clearance from the airbags. They are fairly close to the spring pack, and the track bars will have a bolt there so there's always issues.
CHeck DIY4x for there traction bar or Off Road Design. you'll need to do some welding but they way cheaper than 500 and are probably better built
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I had a set of Rough Country Ladder bars on my 99 4x4 Tacoma (9" lift 36" tires, 410 HP 3.4ltr) after using the RAS system like Surreal has, on my 2011 Silverado (1500/2wd) I ended up swapping the Ladder bars for a set of RAS load levelers, the difference was extremely noticeable, in addition to getting rid of axle rap they also help with sway control and keeping the truck level when I hook up the boat or car trailers.
As much as I liked the ladder bars a couple negatives they had were limiting articulation (yes the RAS limits articulation but not as bad) angle of approach on certain obstacles, and they didnt do anything for sway control or load leveling.
The RAS provides a much better bang for the buck over a set of Ladder bars.
i may have to get a RAS system in my truck soon. all these things it helps with. i know im not running a big lift, but on occasion the rear end does a little shimy thing i have noticed.
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the over leaf spring trac bars come in today so I will try to install them this weekend. Hopefully not a waste of money but we will find out.
This is the kit. Only a few pieces
I had to disconnect the airbag bracket to allow the axle to drop. This was somewhat of a pain getting the jack stands on the frame high enough so I could eventually get the axle to fully lower.
This is how the bracket is supposed to be installed, but the airbags are close to the axle and the upper bolt would have been in the way.
So I flipped the bracket around. The lower holes in the bracke are centered so this just moved the bolt to the tire side where there is more clearance. this also offset the bar towards the outside of the spring than towards the inside. The minimal change I dont think will make a difference (but then again I am not paid to think).
A 7/8" hole needed to be drilled into the stock spring hangar. This is where flipping the bracket around made the hole a little closer to the outside edge of the spring hangar but there should still be enough metal as I tried to keep it as centered as possible.
The threaded end had the nut, washer, bushing (on both sides of hole) just secured and not tightened and then greased and installed the rear bushing and crush sleeve. Installed and torqued the rear bolt. Part at hangar is still loose.
At this point the axle and tire are lifted again to install tire (and to reinstall the upper airbag bracket).
With the tire installed and the truck lowered and weight back on the tires, the front part of the track bar is finally tightened
The instructions say to tighten the rear and front nut on the threaded part so I tried to equally tighten both sides by going back and forth until tight (directions said 45 lbs so I didnt crank on these one but they were tight).
Final pic of the installed trac bar. We are going to take the truck out today when we do our shopping, so I will see if it fixes the vibration at take off (which was the whole reason I bought these).
Heres to crossing my fingers and I will update later. I am supposed to retorque after 500 miles and then again every 3k.
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Sidney Badon Jr. will keep his seat on Groves City Council for another two years.
Badon pulled in 330 votes or 62.74 percent of the total ballots cast. His opponent, Rob Vensel brought in 196 votes or 37.26 percent of the total vote.
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120. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????rustyroot Apr 7, 2012 1:06 PM (in response to XxTaKeNoTeZ_22xX)
No offence mate but its practice.
If you only played MW2 running around with the intervention, then you will quickscope by the time you reach prestige.
I spent one prestige using nothing but the Barrett.50cal and had some awesome one shot kills.
The point is, yes it does take a lot of skill and practice and yes not everyone can do it but is it right to have it in the game.
Did the devs initially intend to create quickscoping, no.
Did it create a passionate community within the franchise that constantly posted videos on Youtube and brought more attention to the game, yes.
Have they only kept it in the game to keep you happy, yes.
Just look at all the moaning ******* when Blops came out and suddenly snipers could only snipe. If you could quickscope on Blops then total respect for you but you were the minority.
MW3 is so desperate to please everyone that no way would they stop quickscopers, same way they help players who die a lot to get death streaks or kill streaks that keep the count even when you die.
Regardless of what side of the fence you sit on the fact is that quickscoping is now a fundamental part of the franchise and will continue to be around just like ghost,assassin and silencers.
121. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????ghamorra Apr 7, 2012 1:56 PM (in response to Zubby83)
Quickscoping is so easy to do. It takes little skill and little practice when you have Quickdraw. As long as lag doesn't throw off the hit detection a quickscoper can rule the match
122. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????killerconfirmed Apr 7, 2012 2:06 PM (in response to Zubby83)
Well...luckscoping...as i call it...is quite annoying. the only reason anyone does it,is for a quick easy kill..and thats the truth..no matter what you tell yourself. no skill at all..none..keep telling yourself you are good,or whatever you want...if you luckscope on my team..i will expose you and cause us both a death...so if you have a luckscoper on your team...expose him...do it enough times and he will leave..or change his class.
123. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????squiggledyboing Apr 7, 2012 2:56 PM (in response to OuTkAsT15)
SMOKE,SMOKE and more SMOKE!,yep,spam the SMOKE grenades.......if they cant see ya....they cant kill ya!...throw on a bit of recon pro and they`re sitting ducks
124. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????doctorDAVE Apr 7, 2012 3:03 PM (in response to Zubby83)
My solution for quickscopers is to UAV spam and use portable radar since they can't use Assassin. If three or 4 of your guys on your team do this, there won't be as much of a problem.
Oh, and HardScoping is the way to go
125. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????dlundebjerg28 Apr 7, 2012 3:43 PM (in response to Zubby83)
No matter how sick of quickscoping you are, its gonna be part of the game. Learn to deal with it, because quickscopers are pretty easy to beat.
Besides some of the suggestions above, dropshotting is a really easy way to beat quickscopers. Stalker is another good way. Its alot harder to quickscope a moving target than it is to quickscope a stationary one.
126. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????dtrain4569 Apr 7, 2012 3:46 PM (in response to Zubby83)
doctorDAVE has it right. I'm an aggresive sniper and UAV spam is the bane of my life.
127. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????mike030270 Apr 7, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to rustyroot)
I hate to say it but I totally agree. They try to please everyone, which will screw most in the long run.
128. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????el2kay Apr 7, 2012 3:58 PM (in response to Zubby83)
Why did this thread come back to life?
129. Re: Who else is sick of QUICKSCOPERS????thisguygotcha Apr 7, 2012 8:48 PM (in response to Zubby83)
1st off I have over 4000 wins and hardly ever come across qsers. Also that being sait, the kill cams are not actually portrails of what actually happened. You ever see a killcam where you didnt shot even though you know you did? Of course you did, we all have. If your bad enough to have someone say this is a good lobby for me to QS in then you need to evaluate your play. Cause I QS when I get in rooms with terrible ppl. So if your always getting QSed Im gonna assume you are a terrible CoD player


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Cellar/Tasting Notes "Dark red-ruby. Sexy, almost decadent aromas of plum, redcurrant, iron and smoked meat. Then juicy and bright in the mouth; began a bit lean and peppery but put on weight as it opened in the glass, without any loss of energy. Finishes with suave tannins, a note of cedary oak and lovely subtle..
Cellar/Tasting Notes "The 2006 is relatively forward and seductive, as one expects La Conseillante to be, with a dark ruby/purple-tinged color and a beautifully sweet nose of black raspberries, plums, kirsch, cedar, and licorice. A broad, savory, seductive, full-bodied mouthfeel with superb ripeness, silky tannins, and..
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Cellar/Tasting Notes "Think of this wine as the 1998 on steroids! Showing better out of bottle than it did from barrel, this wine has put on considerable weight. It is full-bodied, masculine (as most vintages of Trotanoy tend to be), with loads of earthy, foresty notes intermixed with black and red fruits, a meaty,..
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I've been a huge Bruce Willis fan for longer than I care to mention (suffice to say I used to watch first-run episodes of Moonlighting, OK?) and I often jump to the guy's defense when one of my inevitably clueless friends makes a knock on the guy's acting skills. OK, so maybe he's not due to be an Oscar winner any time soon, but Willis (almost) always provides a colorful character whenever he's around. He's gruff, tough, likable and sardonic. I find the actor eminently enjoyable whenever he's on-screen ... almost. Like any other constantly-working actor, Bruce Willis has made his fair share of lame-egg movies -- and when Bruce
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From that one paragraph alone, you should be able to figure out everything that happens up to the beginning of Act III -- and if you've actually seen the trailer for Perfect Stranger then you can also tell me how the flick ends. In an effort to bring some sense of mystery into a two-character story, the screenplay conjures up an assistant / sidekick / lovesick weirdo known as Miles. As played by Giovanni Ribisi, the character's every bit the one-dimensional Exposition Machine. (Until Act III, anyway, when the outrageously predictable "twist" is interrupted by a sub-twist that's as tiresome as it is insipid.)
Perfect Stranger is ultimately a big-budget big-name mess from top to bottom, a homogenized and entirely pre-packaged "thriller" that doesn't even bother doling out any "thrills." (When your most intense sequence involves -- gasp -- a glitchy computer monitor, you know you're dealing with one inert potboiler.) Whenever the movie slows down to a crawl (which is often), director James Foley simply reaches into his bag of lazy tricks and tosses something towards the screen: Hazy flashbacks, corny dream sequences, and extra-red herrings limp into view with very little enthusiasm. And the screenplay's no work of art either. "All it takes to commit murder are the right ingredients at the right time," whispers one character early on -- and the line struck me as funnier than just about anything ever delivered by Adam Sandler or Rob Schneider. (I wasn't alone either; audiences were chuckling openly at Perfect Stranger. Needless to say, the flick's not a comedy.) All premise and no plot, the movie limps forward only on the steam of non-stop, ham-fisted plot exposition. (One character, a redhead chatterbox, exists ONLY to wedge as much "set up" into the movie as she
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LAWRENCEVILLE - Concerned for little lungs, Gwinnett Clean and Beautiful is requesting parents turn off their cars at 10 local schools.The anti-idling campaign hopes to convince parents that air quality is more important than air conditioning as they try to reduce the rate of vehicles idling at the schools from 60 percent to 30 percent by the end of the school year. The pilot program will then be rolled into other county schools, the organization's director, Connie Wiggins, said. "We need to have a place to begin," she said. "We want to heighten awareness." Already, she said, schools have signs that say "No Idling Zone, Little Lungs at Work." The anti-idling message will be built into curriculums and people will be rewarded for turning off their cars. Often, Wiggins said, parents get to their children's schools 20 or 30 minutes early and sit with their engines on. She said most parents probably don't think about the negative impact the practice has on air quality. "I think people just forget," she said. "They don't think about certain things." Wiggins said she hopes parents and children will talk about turning off their cars and will become more knowledgeable about how easy it can be to help the environment. Monitors will also hand out printed material and talk to parents in line about the effort. "Gwinnett Clean and Beautiful has always been about what individuals can do to change our community," she said. The schools involved in the pilot program are: ' Arcado Elementary ' Duncan Creek Elementary ' Dyer Elementary ' Fort Daniel Elementary ' Jackson Elementary ' Kanoheda Elementary ' McKendree Elementary ' Sugar Hill Elementary ' Sycamore Elementary ' Taylor Elementary
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Officials say that the new production method – laser engraved in grayscale on rigid polycarbonate – and a bevy of other subtle feature changes will make the licenses virtually impossible to forge.
"We see the New York driver's license as the first line of defense," said J. David Sampson, executive deputy commissioner of the State Department of Motor Vehicles.
The portraits on each license will change from color to black and white. Personal data will be engraved and a small "ghost image" portrait of the driver will float in a transparent window and will be visible from the front and the back. The new cards will be so stiff, they sound like a compact disc when dropped.
New York is the second state to adopt this technology. The first was Virginia in 2009. Pam Goheen, a spokeswoman for the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles, said that since the change, the department had not seen a "credible" forgery of a Virginia license and any attempts at counterfeiting so far have looked "awful."
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- In a large glass bowl, mix the cider vinegar, mustard, garlic, lime juice, lemon juice, brown sugar, salt, and pepper. Whisk in the olive oil. Place chicken in the mixture. Cover, and marinate 8 hours, or overnight.
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First let me say, that I always find it less than amusing when someone changes an ingredient (or several) in a recipe and then remarks the dish was not as good as expected. That said, I did change some of the ingredients in this recipe ONLY because I had chicken breasts on their last legs (so to speak) defrosted in the fridge and I had to cook them last night. So I went ahead and made the marinade but substituted lime and lemon juice with margarita mix. What can I say? It's the only citrus I had available! But my, oh my, what a fantastic result! My husband raved about this chicken all night long and again today. I was only able to marinate it for a few hours, and I used the broiler instead of the grill, but the results were still spectacular. Wonderful flavor and very tender! I think the key is to cook them only the amount of time required and not a minute longer. I also reserved some of the marinade before soaking the breasts, so when they came out of the broiler I placed them immediately into the sauce. Oh my word. Heavenly. I mean, this is likely going to be the only marinade I use for chicken breasts for some time to come. Can't wait to try it with the actual lime and lemon juice! Now, I'm wondering how this would work with shrimp...or pork...
OMG! Received this recipe from an internet friend and absolutely loved it! Only change I did was I used 2 tbsp whole grain mustard, and 1 tbsp dijon mustard, then used hand blender to smooth out marinade some. Cubed chicken and poured half marinade in bag with chicken and the other half in another bag to put in the freezer for future use and marinaded for 8 hours. Skewered chicken/green pepper/onion/pineapple and grilled on each side (4 sides) 2 minutes each, basting with a little left over marinade left out of the bags. It was wonderful! I'll be making this all summer! TY!
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It was really good. I like this kind of marinade. When I throw stuff together on my own, I find that I use many of these same ingredients- mmm. I didn't have time to marinate and grill but I put the marinade (made a 1/2 recipe) in a glass baking dish with the chicken (sliced up 2 boneless breasts to make cutlets) and baked at 350 until done. I do that often in place of grilling chicken- the meat soaks up so much of the tasty marinade that way, and it's so fast.
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Amount Per Serving (6 total)
- Calories
- 337 cal
- 17%
- Fat
- 16.4 g
- 25%
- Carbs
- 22.4 g
- 7%
- Protein
- 24.8 g
- 50%
- Cholesterol
- 67 mg
- 22%
- Sodium
- 736 mg
- 29%
Based on a 2,000 calorie diet
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was doing flys and back muscles in the mid back cramped up (Monday), I've been in pain ever since....
i starting to get worried, different parts of my back are constantly in pain, i think i need to seem someone....
I think you answered your own question.
That's the problem w. just trying to wait out an injury - you usually end up w. complications because other muscles will overcompensate, leading to further new injuries.
A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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