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Where's iMessage for Android?
Why Apple keeps iMessage locked to a single platform in a cross-platform messaging world
iMessage is Apple's text and media messaging service, bundled into the Messages app on iPhone, iPad, and Mac. And that's where the platform support ends. There's no iMessage for Android or for Windows. There's certainly no iMessage for Windows Phone or BlackBerry. Unlike Apple's Mail, Contacts, Calendar, and iWork, there's not even an iMessage in the iCloud. But, on the heels of Facebook buying WhatsApp for $16 billion and BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) being far too late to the cross-platform party... should there be?
If our friends, colleagues, and family all use Apple devices, a few glitches aside, iMessage is close to a perfect solution. If our friends, colleagues, and family aren't all in the Apple ecosystem then iMessage falls back on SMS/MMS. Not everyone wants to use — or pay for — carrier text and multimedia messaging service, however, so that's where cross-platform IM like WhatsApp, Viber, Facebook Messenger, Line, WeChat, and others come in.
If Apple released iMessage for Android — and perhaps others platforms, including the web — then iOS users could both stay in Messages.app, and stay connected to their cross-platform contacts. Apple could also potentially gain a messaging user base as big as WhatsApp, Line, or the other giant services. So why haven't they?
BlackBerry's missed BBM boat
BlackBerry was once in a similar situation. Evolving from the pager they grew to support email first, then BBM. By 2006 they were an incredibly popular handset manufacturer with an incredibly popular messaging service attached to their platform. And those two things, their handset popularity and their messaging popularity, were inextricably linked.
By 2010, however BlackBerry's handsets had fallen behind iPhone and Android. There was talk of BlackBerry taking BBM cross-platform but nothing ever came of it. They were seemingly afraid that if they let their messaging system go, their users would go with it. It wasn't apparent to them at all that their messaging business could surpass their handset business. That BlackBerry as a company could be valued at around $5 billion and WhatsApp, a cross-platform clone of BBM, would one day go for $16 billion. So BlackBerry waited. They waited until many of their users had moved on and only then did they take BBM cross-platform. And instead of a position of strength and dominance, they find themselves fighting to survive.
Could Apple face a similar problem? Could keeping iMessage restricted to iOS hurt them the same way failing to make BBM cross-platform earlier enough hurt BlackBerry?
Products vs. businesses
Apple doesn't mistake their products for their business. Instead of protecting the iPod and the Mac, they pushed ahead with iPhone and iPad. Now, as digital music sales have tanked and PC sales have slowed, Apple is more successful than ever. That's because Apple's business was never iPods and Macs, it was personal computing devices. They try very, very hard to obsolete themselves before someone else can obsolete them.
Facebook has proven themselves to be similar. Facebook's business isn't Facebook. It's attention. Facebook is just a product. Rather than obsoleting themselves the way Apple does, however, they buy companies that appear to be on a path towards obsoleting them. Hence Instagram and now WhatsApp. Facebook doesn't care about people using Instagram or WhatsApp instead of Facebook any more than Apple cares about someone using an iPhone or iPad instead of an iPod or Mac. They just care that they're using Facebook products.
BlackBerry, on the other hand, thought handsets were their business and they were wrong. Handsets were just their product. Attention was their business as well. Namely the attention their phenomenal communication experience gave them. Security, physical keyboards, blinking notification lights, and the handsets themselves only contributed to the delivery of those communications to get and keep that attention, be it pages and email in the early days or BBM after it was developed.
Apple isn't in the attention business. Apple is not the compelling scene through the window. Apple is the window. Apple doesn't much care what scene you're looking at through the window, as long as it's Apple's window you're looking through. And that's a very different dynamic.
The secrets to success
To stay successful, BlackBerry had to make sure they kept their users' attention. Facebook likewise. Apple does not. To stay successful Apple has to make sure the devices through which people give their attention have Apple logos on them, regardless of where that attention is going.
Part of doing that is ensuring that iPhones and iPads provide a base-level of functionality right out of the box. The other part is making sure the iPhone and iPad remain the absolute best gateway to the internet and to apps beyond what they come with in the box.
iMessage is there to make sure anyone with an iPhone or iPad can easily keep in contact with the people they care about. Phenomenal HTML5 support and killer Cocoa frameworks are there to make sure any developer can easily and delightfully launch any other messaging app imaginable on the App Store. Which is exactly what they've done.
So where's iMessage for Android?
Apple has traditionally been a far better hardware and software company than they've been a services company. Not only wouldn't cross-platform iMessage play to their strengths, it would further burden their resources.
As much as you or I or many other people might like iMessage to go cross-platform, to be able to use Messages.app to chat with our Android and Windows and other friends, colleagues, and family, to use it on any device or on the web, Apple doesn't need it to. 1) Because iMessage's only major reason for being is to increase the overall value of Apple's actual business: personal computing devices, and 2) because every other service has gone cross-platform for iPhone and iPad, often first and best. Not only isn't that a problem for Apple, it's a key reason for their success.
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I don't believe that iMessage will make it out of Apple's ecosystem. That's is something that is closely tied to Apple products. Really, I know people who bought iDevices just for iMessage. It shouldn't be a problem right now with Apple because so many people have their devices. I would love to see it come to Android, but I doubt that will happen....
Nexus 5... enough said
As a Nexus 5 owner, iMessage is one of the few things I miss.
I don't see it happening either, although there is hundreds of millions of non-idevice users out there. I honestly believe bottom line that apple just doesn't care. What I mean is that they are not dying RIM/Blackberry who needed to make a move to stay relevant. Apple is at the top of their game right now, making money hand over fist. They do not need to lure customers in through a free messenger service to stay relevant as they are doing just fine as is. Nor are they hurting for money what so ever like RIM needs.
I don't think a lot of people believed that RIM would open their ecosystem either, but I believe that the only reason this happened was that they reached a point of desperation to try to stay relevant in mobile. Apple isn't in that position and I don't see them opening their ecosystem to other devices anytime soon.
I do wish Apple would make an iMessage app for Windows though like on Mac you could log into as use iMessage. Jailbroken RemoteMessages works well but a native solution is always better.
I agree that Apple doesn't have to add iMessage to Android. But they should consider adding PC capability. It would be very useful to use iMessage while at work. Same for iTunes Radio, open it up to the web.
Why they will put something great in a shitty OS? I like they keep it this way.. When you are with WP or Android you are wondering what App to download to send msg-s to people from other countries, to other carriers if your plan doesn't include free text msg-s to all carriers.. For people with iDevices this is not a problem. And if someone of your friends is with Android or WP you can always download viber or what's app.. But this is your choice, others have to use them.. And with iPhone 6 more and more people will jump to Apple... So this is great :-)
Dude your fanboyism is definitely glowing. Some people always find an excuse to bash other mobile Operating systems...
Nexus 5... enough said
Fanboyism? I have Note 3 and iPhone 5S.. Some people are here just for a number.. I see how my iOS is running, and how Note 3 with KitKat... Still some lags, app drops and 1000 more problems.. I am not Fan Boy, I just live in reality..
" I am not Fan Boy, "
Not a fanboy? 1000 more problems? Seriously?
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The nexus 5 is smoother , more fluid than any iPhone I have a 5s and had previous iphones . I wouldn't take a Samsung if it were free. Don't bash Android it's great as is iOS
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I also agree with you pure android is great and even me as an iPhone lover would make me want it. If I had to get an android phone it would definitely be a nexus 5 I can't stand all of the samsung crap and just samsung in general.
Yea not a fan boy alright
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Fucking idiots more like it.
Never fails one has to start and like a fungus it starts one by one.
I agree, nothing matches iOS's fluidity and speed even though they're on 2+ gigs of ram and 2+ ghz!
Who says android is another mobile Operating system?!! ROFLAMO
Um...you do realize that both Android and Windows Phone both have messaging fallbacks in place also. Not necessarily the same as iMessage, but there nonetheless.
Windows Phone has Facebook messaging built directly into their default messaging app. And seeing as Facebook is a pretty big service...that's nothing to sneeze at.
For Android, Hangouts (formerly Google Talk) is preloaded on every Android device. And with KitKat, Hangouts is the default messaging app. Again, it's there.
So yeah. Seeing as iOS users STILL download these other messaging apps in droves, the situation you provided (with WP and Android you're wondering what app to download to send msg-s to people from other countries) is still valid for them also. Especially seeing as iOS is not the dominant OS.
So please do not push your experience as a universal experience as it is only a localized experience for you. Thanks.
What would be cool is if ios integrated facebook messaging straight into their text message app.
I find iMessage to be one of the worst services Apple currently offers. I can get a message on my iPhone and maybe 10 minutes later it'll appear on my iPad and/or OS X devices. The inability to actually notify me of a message on all devices at or near the same time is incredibly annoying. I may not always be near the device that gets dinged first and I'll be waiting, and waiting and waiting for it to come across on the device I'm actually at and using. Before they even consider, if they ever actually do, bringing it to another platform, they seriously need to fix the issues they already have with the one platform they're already on.
That never happens to me. I get every message on all my devices within a couple seconds. Maybe you're the exception.
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I wish I was, because it could probably be easily fixed on my end then, but I know several people who have this issue. And I promise I'm not grandstanding either, I seriously know several who experience the same issue.
That's an ongoing complaint on these tech sites. The inconsistency with imessage on multiple devices.
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I certainly hope they do. I understand that they're making a service for hundreds of millions of people and it isn't always going to work for everyone. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but statistics don't mean squat when it comes to those who are actually affected.
I've actually talked to a friend who has suffered from this issue too and we were both really hoping Apple would have snapped up WhatsApp or a similar service because we've never had this issue with WhatsApp. But alas it was not meant to be.
Here's hoping the issue gets fixed sooner rather than later :-)
But whatsapp can only be used on your phone, and so that's probably why you have never had a problem with messages arriving out of sync...
Think for a moment. And this is not a dig at you, but if it is taking 10 mins there is something wrong with your network and not the devices. You have something out of sync.
You have made a VALID point however as to why Apple doesn't and won't play with the other kids in the pool.
It is tough enough to keep your own side of the street clean let alone everyone else's.
I can appreciate what you're saying and I certainly won't discount anything. With that being said, I don't believe this is the issue, at least not every time. A lot of times my iPhone and iPad aren't connected to my home network because LTE is faster, so I'll have WiFi off to get the best throughput and my Mac mini will get a message first while I'm laying in bed watching some Netflix or whatever. That becomes frustrating because I'm waiting for it to come through and then end up having to get up to see the message and even after reading it there, I'm still waiting for it to come through on one of the other devices that isn't connected to my network.
As a disclaimer, that isn't always true, that's just one example that I know has happened which makes me think it isn't my network.
And with all of this being said, I am a huge fan of Apple and this is one small issue that is frustrating to me, so it isn't like I've got major issues that push me to another platform.
As someone who's also an Android user, I couldn't care less. Bring on more Hangouts users. At least Google is making an effort to provide people who use other devices, than just Nexus or Android, to have access to their services. I support that.
For such an amazing and innovative company, this is such a crappy mentality (making something exclusive to its own platform).
Apple's business model is different from Google's. What works for one company does not necessarily work for the other. Google is in the business of providing online services in exchange for mining your data. Thus it's in Google's best interest to make their products available everywhere, for any platform, to increase their penetration. It doesn't matter if you use Google maps on safari for OSX or if you use an android phone, it only matters that you use google maps. Apple is in the business of selling you an appliance, if you will. They package their software into their hardware, and sell you an all-in-one package. They don't make much money if you don't buy their hardware. So as soon as you can explain how making iMessage available for android will increase iPhone sales, then you will have a compelling argument. Making services like iMessage available on competing platforms just dilutes the Apple brand and costs them money.
They don't sell the appliance without software to tell that hardware what its purpose is. And their software is amazing. You're right about it diluting the brand, but if their software/messaging service is that good, do you think they'd need to worry?
And do you believe Apple isn't 'mining' your data too?
No, apple is not mining your data in the way the Google does. There was an article just this past week about how advertisers aren't satisfied with the amount of data they are getting from Apple and Amazon about their users.
In either case, though, Apple makes it's money by selling you hardware. The software and the services are just their to further entice you.
Apple is certainly mining your data and your usage habits, and they explicitly reserve the right to do so - and to share it with third parties - on their privacy page. We know that they don't share demographic information with iAd buyers, anything else is speculation. That's a start, but, until they publicly affirm they will not do something, it makes more sense to assume any large company is doing exactly what their public policies claim.
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Yet they let you use windows to access iTunes?
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Yes because at the time you needed a computer to get music on an iPod. And most people used Windows PCs. Once Apple made iTunes for Windows iPod sales took off.
yea, but you already bought the hardware. See the difference? There really was no way around it at the time. The main goal was to get the iPod (Apple's hardware and Apple's software) into everyone's hand, and if you had to use a windows computer (via Apple software of course) to do it, then so be it. But once you loaded your music, you didn't have to interact with windows at all to use your iPod.
"So where's iMessage for Android?"
Right. I'm sure Apple will release iMessage for Android.
Just about the same time they release FaceTime and Passbook for Android.
Doesn't all the major plans include unlimited call/text but NOT unlimited data? Thus, heavy iMessage usage would bring you closer to your cap whilst normal SMS would not? I like iMessage and all but sometimes SMS is just faster and more reliable...
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"Doesn't all the major plans include unlimited call/text but NOT unlimited data?"
There is a whole world outside USA and normally, SMS are not unlimited or free. And international SMS are not free
iMessage is about connecting you to other Apple users. I'm sure noone wants iads and fees littering imessage. So how would imessage for everyone else pay off for Apple? Supposedly Apple doesn't mine your info, sell it, etc.
If someone can put together how this is worth billions to Apple (without becoming facebook or google like in terms of privacy and ads), then let's hear it. It looks like a major cost to me. BBM's solution? Sell stickers..
And it's worth pointing out, just as MS Office isn't really Office on other platforms, neither would iMessage.
iMessage is several orders of magnitude less complex than Office, and what complexity exists is almost exclusively server side. Technically, there is no reason Apple could not do it.
I agree financially it would be stupid. Technically simple or not, there is still a cost, and no real benefit to Apple. Anecdotally, several of my daughters friends switched from Android to iOS specifically because their team had almost all iPhones, and they used group messages. In my small circle, iMessage for Android would have been 3 lost sales right there.
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I think apple missed a trick by not buying and not going cross platform with skype. As apple would've worked wonders with the quality of it.
I agree that Skype quality was quite poor, but it has got so much better in the past month.
Also, Skype is possibly the widest reaching cross platform messaging and communicating platform - Skype is the reason Apple needs to expand iMessage, not BBM or WhatsApp.
Hopefully the competition from skype will push apple to make an even better product, so everybody's a winner
I think this article is slightly missing the point and doesn't discuss issues like why, in places like Europe where unlimited and free text messages are also the norm like the USA, text messaging is in decline and apps like WhatsApp are so popular.
I suspect the reason for this is that text messaging was originally part of GSM, the mobile phone standard used from the start in most countries outside the USA. In these countries, text messaging has been around since the early 90s - a lot longer than it has been around in the USA. Consequently, text messaging is viewed as 'old' in a lot of countries.
In places like the UK, text message numbers actually dropped last year - because people are moving to apps like WhatsApp en masse. Part of the reason for this is because these apps allow you to do more than texts do (such as send 'stickers' and larger files), and they also have a social aspect to them. Texting is what 'old people' do.
I think Steve Jobs used to like quoting Henry Ford when he said that if he'd asked the public what they wanted, they wouldn't have said a car - they would have asked for a faster horse. In this context, iMessage is the 'faster horse'. An attempt to streamline text messaging, when text messaging is already in decline in many countries.
There would be no real point in launching iMessage for Android or other platforms - people in a lot of countries wouldn't see any use for it.
Old but still widely used otherwise why are third party messaging services like Whatsapp cashing in? Or wireless providers still charging ridiculous fees and limiting texting?
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What I'm trying to say here is that there is a distinction between old fashioned 'texting' (SMS) and 'Instant messaging' apps like WhatsApp. I don't think it's been helped by a lot of the American media (who don't really seem to understand WhatsApp) describing WhatsApp as a 'texting' or 'SMS' app. It isn't. It's an instant messaging app.
The wider point is that old fashioned texting / SMS is in decline, and is considered 'old' in a lot of places. Instant messaging apps (like WhatsApp) are largely replacing SMS.
Is I messages not the same as in IM? we can see in real time that others are sending messages to us and vice versa.
Exactly how would making iMessage cross platform be profitable for Apple? What's the benefit to Apple?
what a crappy opinion/view of Apple you have.
New market share, penetration, exposure, advertising, revenue worldwide...
So Facebook paid lots of money for an IM and people are hyperventilating. FB is not sharing one orbit with Apple, or Google for that matter. Take a deep breath.
I'm more in-tune with the idea of iTunes being offered on other platforms. iMessage, eh.
It would be an interesting move, but I think Apple use iTunes as one of their tools to try and lock people into iOS .
I work for a wireless carrier and many people buy an iPhone just because of iMessage
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I'm guessing you're based in the USA. In other countries it isn't the case - people use WhatsApp and other similar apps instead, because they guarantee free messaging to whichever platform you're messaging to. That's why WhatsApp could command such a high price from Facebook.
I am from the US and currently live in the UK. I see more iPhones here than other smartphones. I don't understand your point. Whatsapp is avaiable on all the major OS's. It's not any different than installing Facebook Messenger on an iphone. iMessage is just another feature added to an iPhone.
And whatsapp is only free for the first year. .99 after.
Lol. You know whats funny about this article.. this is exactly how people felt about BBM on bb when bb was riding high. Thats the great thing about hindsight.. it always seems to make sense except you didnt realise it before it all went wrong. Apple and BB of course have different straregies but then again.. before you know it things could turn out that what works today might not work tomorrow. Only then do you realise that.. hold on, we have loads of users that loved Imessage but are moving to other products so maybe now we should go cross platform. A lot of people actually used bb for its handsets i.e the keyboards and comms experience like push messaging, multi-tasking, battery life etc.. not just bbm. However, bbm is one of its strengths that is easily applied to other platforms. Apple should go cross platform now as a lot of people already only want iphones because of imessage and facetime like one of the posters above already said (his reason for staying with the iphone is due to imessage). BBM and others already do this (yes they are late but.. apple would be later) so if things go wrong with the handset buisiness.. we'll be watching the bb type saga all over again. No offence Rene but i do think you mostly only like to see the +ve of apple strategy because its your chosen brand. The truth is nobody cares and people would all flock to what is hot at the time and you can sure as hell be sure that apple products would not always be that product to get. You seem to have forgotten already that it was only a few years ago that Bill Gates bailed apple out and saved it from collapse. This is exactly why google and Microsoft have always and already ensure they have their apps on other platforms. It's not to hard to figure out. The world has already moved on from closed eco system thinking. Think android. Think BYOD. Act now. I for one am a blackberry10 user but use whatsapp, skype and gtalk and facebook messenger also even though its mostly bbm i use however, thanks to bb comms experience the hub makes them all one app so if imessage came along id gladly use it too as long as its integrated into the hub.like the rest.
Nah mate. From my personal knowledge i can assure you that before bb began to "fail".. others wanted a bbm like experience thus you had the whatsapp's, the kik's and co step in and fill the void that bb refused to fill. Dunno about Canada or North America but here in europe.. UK especially that was the case. That is also why at some point bbm did work on some old nokia phone. It had nothing to do with Apple. The issue at the time though is bb was riding high and not interested in sharing what it saw as its competitive advantage. This competitive advantage is why it was so difficult for them to go cross platform. Even today, you still have those die hards that find it absurd and feel now that bbm is xplatform it spells the ultimate death of bb as we knew it. I beg to differ though.
Also, yes you are right that google services are not currently on bb10 or windows but thats merely a business cost/case decision and it does make sense. Note however that all google services were on the older bb's until sales dropped to its current levels so its not like it cannot happen again if by some miracle things pick up for blackberry and windows phone. Google would provide its services to any platform that has enough of a customer base to justify the cost of developing for and supporting its apps. Google will even kill its own services on its platform if it feels there is not a substantial level of use as we all know. Today, the iphone and android devices have the user numbers so it only makes sense for it to do so. Having said all that.. despite what you may feel apples core business is the fact is its the hardware it offers in regards to the ipod, iphone and ipad is what got it where it is today. Truth is they do what they do in the ios way which people have grown to love but that innitial attraction was the physical look. Even today people are on to them mainly for how they look with the way they work being an added benefit. You even have those.. yourslef inclusive that wish ios borrowed certain aspects from the other os's i.e. synergy from WebOS while others long for the leds or messaging methodology from bb or the way android is configurable and can be modified to each individuals preference etc.. You have loads who buy macs cos they're everywhere then moan that they cant do things the way they did on windows. IMHO.. Apples core business is design (and yes i'm aware of itunes, icloud etc but thats just as a result of the way the tech world was going and they had to do it to keep people on their hardware thus.. all locked in) ..and should that begin to falter.. they need stuff out there thats cross platform to at least keep them relevant until their next big innovation.
Just my 2 pence.
In the old world, company valuations were based on a multiple of revenue or free cash flow, while also factoring growth over time. But in the new world of social media, revenue is often something that will come later as the result of hyper growth while traditional valuation techniques don't apply.
Because Facebook doesn't control a mobile platform itself (unlike Google with Android), and with its stock rising, Zuckerberg likely felt it had to make this move now to add fuel to its transition to the world of mobile computing. If Facebook didn't make this move, Google, which reportedly offered $10 billlion for WhatsApp, likely would have.
Still, the fact is that we can't know today whether or not this is a good deal for Facebook. Clearly Zuckerberg sees a big piece of Facebook's future in WhatsApp, because he's paying more than 10% of Facebook's market cap for it, not to mention putting cofounder and CEO Jan Koum on its board.
Perhaps it boils down to what Kara Swisher said: "Facebook Price for Having No Phone OS? $19 Billion. A Must-Have Apps Play? Priceless." :)
I'd presumed that it was to prevent spam!
I like iMessage just for iOS it allows me to know who has an iPhone and communicating with them is free. Unless the same option would be available for Android, I don't see the need. Great read!
Ps.... Why are people still fighting over what phone a persons own. People have choices. That's android or IOS, it's there choice. No one has to like what you like.
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Thank you
Nexus 5... enough said
Rene, please would you guys consider writing an article about Telegram. Due to the comments here last week, I installed it and personally I think it's pretty good. Reading their FAQ made me feel warm and safe ;)
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Unless Apple would fully commit to creating an iMessage app for Android capable of handling SMS and MMS, I don't want it. It's anti-consumer to produce a service like this that is only available to Apple customers. Apple brags about how elitist their customers are. What the world needs in terms of communication is a complete overhaul of text communication. SMS and MMS, and even minutes are long-outdated. We need a new standard, and Apple cannot be the company to create that so long as they continue to only provide for their targeted middle-upper class consumers
I think one thing to remember is that Apple isn't going to do anything for Google period. Granted, Jobs is no longer at the helm but don't think his sentiments of going "thermonuclear" on Google and Android don't still reverberate throughout the company and their way of doing business.
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Google fundamentally believes that private messages are fodder for mining personal information. Apple does not. I can't see how Apple maintains control over iMessage on Android. Do you want every random Android app to have a backdoor to your conversations? Google is fine with that. Apple is not. I don't want to see Apple's communication services on Android.
If I were Apple, which I can assure you I'm not, would I want my messaging service on other platforms, which wouldn't run it properly, so that everyone could then say, "This iMessage app SUCKS!" Probably not. Probably...not.
why should they get imessage when we can't even get their keyboards? there would have to be some kind of mutual trade
Well both of those hold backs are due to Apple. Developers want to make keyboards for ios apple will not allow it.
Rene, you make an excellent argument against a cross-platform iMessage from Apple's point of view, but it is not a strong argument from my point of view as an iOS for two reasons:
1) Cross-platform iMessage would save me money (I still have to monitor my SMS exchanges with my non-iMessage friends because I'm on ATT 200/month text plan).
2) I find it inconvenient that I can not use iMessage on my Macs and non-cellular iOS devices to initiate or reply to messages from users off of iOS.
If it were cost effective to offer cross-platform iMessage, not only would an exquisitely executed iMessage on Android, et al, benefit iOS/OS X users, but it might also have a similar effect on non-Apple users that iTunes on Windows had. That single cross-platform product decision can not be underestimated in regard to Apple's current position.
"Apple has traditionally been a far better hardware and software company than they've been a services company"
Apple, justifiably, has been the target of this criticism (I've got complaints dating back to eWorld), but I would like someone with deep knowledge on the subject to discuss Microsoft's role in Apple's current iCloud services mix. Perhaps Apple's not the only enterprise carrying water this time around.
Apple opening up iMessages means more servers and more cloud power than they use now to service their actual customer base. What's the upside to Apple expending resources for these non Apple clients? That's like me paying for someone else's kids to take the MCAT not gonna happen!
Yeas that's not going to happen so why are we even talking about this.
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"Now, as digital music sales have tanked ..."
Isn't that a rather large overstatement?
I have heard other sources say that sales are "down a bit," but nowhere else have I heard that sales have "tanked," (which is generally used to denote a complete failure).
Rene is spot on. Search $19B doesn't make it brilliant Hamish McKenzie.
Specifically iMessage can be broadened. And deepened. "... WeChat, Line, and KakaoTalk look more like enhanced versions of Facebook, reimagined for the mobile era, than what they started out as: enhanced SMS services" McKenzie.
Seriously doubt it.
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Don't much care for iMessage. Not all of my friends use iPhones so I still need SMS. US carrier plans now have unlimited SMS anyway. It is nothing but a headache when trying to dual wield iOS and Android. Personally, there is no advantage to me using any more. If I have no cell signal (extremely rate now) I can use Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp.
Love iMessage
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Nothing unusual about Apple going back on promises.
When this was launched it would be "open", and my first comment was "when pigs fly".
Where did they promise that?
Why you so bitter?
Open? to...?
Think about what AT and T had to build for the basic phone in the early twentieth century.
The infrastructure and cabling, phones, plugs etc...
They were called a monopoly, but looking back in the day, who were they going to let in for just basic phone.
Take TV, satellite, cable. None play with each other.
There is no way Apple would be that stupid.
Lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY!
communication is about relationships and it's almost a certainty that a person will want to communicate with somebody who isn't on iOS. by not having a facility I (and a suspect many others) have moved to whatsapp etc which works across platforms without having to worry about compatibility
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ht_tp://imessageonandroid-com/ :-/
Lmao, there is a android app for imessaging, you just have to google it. Be sure and check out the fine print first though. They won't let me post the link here.
So either you wasted a lot of time writing this article or you are saying the app on the following link is not real, which is it? http://imessageonandroid.com/
Maybe Apple simply doesn't want Samsung getting their hands on it, reverse-engineering it and calling it S-Message.
Wow Thanku Admin for telling me
<a href="http://technoraise.blogspot.com/2014/04/Facebook-Removing-Messaging.html... removing messaging facility from iOS And Android app
This article has potential, but is off the mark on a lot. What does this even mean, "Instead of protecting the iPod and the Mac, they pushed ahead with iPhone and iPad. "
And they are a better hardware company than a services company? No, they aren't; and you don't mention a rather important part of their business... Software.
This article is riddled with missing bits and off-the-mark observations. Sorry.


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Autumn Johnson July 14, 2014 at 08:57 AM
Patch was bought out by a new company in January and laid off much of its staff. I cover 16 sites…Read Moreon my own right now so the local news is not the same as it was back when there was one editor per site. Patch has also added a national desk and is trying some new things with our approach to the news by sharing some state and national stories in addition to the local news. If you have any tips on local stories, feel free to send them my way! firstname.lastname@example.com
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---- — The original Christmas story once again came alive Saturday, with Rockport's presentation of its annual Christmas Nativity Pageant through the community's downtown streets.
The pageant, the 66th annual presentation, carried the Holy Family and others on its trek from Dock Square to the inn — disguised as the Rockport Art Association – and onto the manger on the lawn of the Congregational Church.
The idea of a living pageant in Rockport was originated with Dr. William F. Strangman and Mrs. Aldro Hibbard as a gift from the Rockport Art Association to the people of the town in the 1940s. The event and a following community carol sing once again drew hundreds of spectators who saw the story of the birth of Jesus unfold.


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---- — MT. PLEASANT — Todd Caldwell, Lisa Techel's father, took the stand at Seth Techel's murder trial Monday to tell jurors about his daughter.
Caldwell, who worked in the Wapello County Sheriff's Department, said he was close to his daughter. They were in daily contact, with calls and text messages. They would occasionally grab lunch together, since Lisa was a reserve deputy.
"I couldn't have been more proud. I couldn't have had a better friend," he said.
Caldwell teared up briefly while talking about Lisa, but his voice steadied as he was questioned about how he came to know Techel. He frequently looked right at Techel, who sat nearby at the defense table, as he answered.
The morning of the murder it was a dispatcher who sent Caldwell to the trailer.
"A dispatcher called me at home and woke me up. The dispatcher told me I had to get out to Lisa's house, that she had been shot and wasn't breathing," he said.
Caldwell's instructions at the scene to deputies to "Get him," were a reference to Brian Tate, he said. The defense has suggested Tate, who lived adjacent to the Techels, is a better suspect in the murder than Techel.
Tate had accused Seth of vandalism. Caldwell interviewed him as part of the investigation. Tate showed Caldwell rocks he said were thrown at his property and a can of dog feces he had collected. Both, he claimed, came were the result of harassment by Techel.
Caldwell didn't believe the accusations.
"What he was saying and what my son-in-law was saying were different. I tended to believe my son-in-law," he said.
The accusations were true, though. Earlier Monday, Michael Owings told jurors Techel enlisted him to harass Brian Tate. Defense attorney Steven Gardner characterized Owing's actions a "prank."
Tyler Batterson, another teen who was asked by Techel to "mess with" Tate, took the stand and recounted his interactions with Techel.
Batterson said he, Owing, and two others left dog feces in Tate's yard..
"Did you tell Seth Techel what you had done?" Brown asked.
"Yes," Batterson replied.
"What was his reaction?"
"He laughed," Batterson said.
Gardner's cross examination of Caldwell largely focused on his interactions with Tate. When asked whether he recalled Tate saying Seth and Lisa Techel were "possible terrorists," Caldwell said, "No. That's not true."
"That's in your report," Gardner responded.
Caldwell said that was his conclusion based on conversations with Tate, rather than a specific accusation made by Tate.
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Workers at the Regency Ceramics factory in India raided the home of their boss, and beat him senseless with lead pipes after a wage dispute turned ugly.
The workers were enraged enough to kill Regency's president K. C. Chandrashekhar after their union leader, M. Murali Mohan, was killed by baton-wielding riot police on Thursday. The labor violence occurred in Yanam, a small city in Andra Pradesh state on India's east coast. Police were called to the factory by management to quell a labor dispute. The workers had been calling for higher pay and reinstatement of previously laid off workers since October. Murali was fired a few hours after the police left the factory.
The next morning, at 06:00 on Friday, Murali went to the factory along with some workers and tried to obstruct the morning shift, local media reported. Long batons, known as lathis in India, were used by police who charged the workers, injuring at least 20 of them, including Murali. He died on the way to hospital, according to The Times of India. Hundreds of workers gathered outside the police station and demanded that officers be charged with homicide.
Curfew and other civil orders were imposed in Yanam because of the uprising that ultimately lead to the murder of the Regency president a few hours after being attacked with led pipes. Police reported that rioters also torched several vehicles outside the police station. Eight Regency Ceramics workers were injured in police firing that followed; the condition of two of them is critical. More than 100 protesters have been arrested.
India's factory workers are the lowest paid within the big four emerging markets. Per capita income in India is under $4,000 a year, making it the poorest country in the BRICs despite its relatively booming economy.
At Regency Ceramics, workers went on strike Jan. 1 over the wage dispute. The management had reportedly decided to slap a restraining order on five workers and managed to obtain an order from a high court saying that the striking workers should not come within 220 yards, more than the size of two football fields, from the factory.
Once news of Murali's death spread, the factory workers allegedly destroyed 50 company cars, buses and trucks and lit them on fire. They ransacked the factory. Residents joined hands with around 600 workers, while others were enroute to Chandrashekhar's house.
"Workers at the Regency Ceramics factory in THE INDIA raided the home of their boss, and beat him senseless with LED PIPES after a wage dispute turned ugly."
The India? Led Pipes? They beat him senseless – or to death? Did you outsource the writing of this article to a content shop in The India? I can't believe I'm reading Forbes. Where are the real writers? Where are the editors? And Wikpedia is now the source for article photos? There's no way I could get a job at Forbes, yet I've NEVER turned in copy like this at my humble little job. Look, everybody makes mistakes – you're probably a nice guy, and fairly capable, and I don't want to be an a$$. On the other hand, this is a serious gig. Step up!
"Workers at the Regency Ceramics factory in the India raided the home of their boss…"
The India?
"India factory workers are the lowest paid…
You mean Indian?
Are the editors on holiday?
They could be outsourcing, it's very common these days. Look at Yahoo's front page articles, they have all sorts of mistakes and omit lots of key information.
Why don't you treat your readers like the big boys and girls that they are, and just say "200 meters"?
Using a football field is also an incredibly confusing measure, considering that it means about eight different things around the world (e.g., American football / gridiron, rugby league, rugby union, Gaelic football, Australian rules football, "real" football / soccer, Canadian football)?
Don't mean to be harsh, but you *are* paid to write for a living…
Many, perhaps most, Forbes contributors are not paid to write for a living. Just FYI.
"Why don't you treat your readers like the big boys and girls that they are, and just say "200 meters"?"
Let him write HIS post and when you post we can all come over and nit pick what you've written.
Hey, its nice you get back to your readers in the comments section and the story was well written. However, "India factory workers"?, not good buddy! And you confused me when you mentioned in your comment above how this situation in India kind of reminds about Foxxcon and Apple. In china, they would never riot, they would rather commit suicide singly.


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The following is from the Dec. 17, 2007, edition of USA Today. SMU Professor Michael Hawn, director of sacred music in Perkins School of Theology, provided expertise for this story.
By Maria Puente
Most everybody knows what Christmas caroling is, but who does it anymore?
Students singing carols recently at SMU's 30th annual Celebration of Lights .
Sure, there's the new twist: virtual caroling. A Radio Shack ad shows how it's done: Little old lady opens her door to find video iPod. Out comes tinny sounds and tiny pictures of children singing Hark, the Herald Angels Sing. Next door the kids are waving from a window.
It's an appealing notion: Spread cheer without leaving the warmth (and the giant-screen TV) of your own home. Must be why YouTube boasts more than 300 caroling videos.
But has it come to this? Except for pockets of passion, traditional, in-person neighborhood caroling is practiced by a shrinking fraction of the population. . .
It's not too late to revive Christmas caroling, says Michael Hawn, professor of church music at Southern Methodist University in Dallas.
"It will take imagination and a willingness to break the ice," he says, "Singing is an act that naturally enhances a sense of community, whether it's Take Me Out to the Ball Game, the national anthem or Christmas carols."
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Wiz responded to critics who say he's become aggressive with his music, most noteably on his record "Taylor Gang" from the Cabin Fever mixtape.
"'Taylor Gang' is not a departure for me or my style. Anybody who's been connected to my whole career, they know the variations of where I go and my beat selections," he told MTV News backstage at the Woodie Awards during South by Southwest. "Lex [Luger, who produced 'Taylor Gang'] has been a real big fan since back in the day, and I've been up on his music for a long time as well, so it's just been bound to happen. He's a great guy and he's really talented, so it's just good to see him getting the shine he deserves." - MTV


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How in the world do you balance your home, your kids, and your work-at-home job? Get the whole family involved! On today's Home School Heartbeat, host Mike Smith shares some workable ideas.
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Your spouse and children's cooperation is integral to your success as a work-at-home parent. Chores, childcare, and schoolwork simply won't get done if your family isn't willing to exercise some responsibility. By delegating some of these tasks, you make it possible for your family to join with you in working toward a common goal.
Depending on the type of work you do, you may even be able to add your kids to the payroll! Most children love to help out with their parent's work. Depending on their age, they can help stuff envelopes or develop marketing ideas. Just remember to investigate the legal and tax issues involved.
By setting clear boundaries and respecting them, you can successfully balance work and family. Your children need to know exactly when and how they can interrupt you while you're working. And when your work hours are over, discipline yourself to shut down the computer, turn off your work phone, and give your full attention to your family. And until next time, I'm Mike Smith.


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One of my childhood friends had her leg amputated last year due to infection.
She's new to the area and I've gotten reacquainted with her. She's shared some of the trials of living with limb loss. One of her major challenges has been finding other people to talk with who have had similar experiences.
The Amputee Coalition of the USA says that 1.7 million people, or one in every 200, deal with limb loss. Limb loss is the result of accidents, infections, burns, diabetes, cancer, frostbite and congenital factors.
With my friend in mind, last week I went to Horizon Books to hear Randy Park, 56, a coach, athlete, teacher, father and husband, discuss his own limb loss. At 21, Randy was in a motorcycle accident. Sometime later, infection necessitated that his left leg below the knee be removed. Randy's story is featured in the book, "Full Circle" by Gordon Galloway.
In 35 years, Randy has had more than 80 surgeries and numerous prostheses. Currently, he's wearing a robotic ankle from the BIOM Company. The CEO of BIOM is a double leg amputee. Randy said many times during his presentation that his motivation for sharing his experiences is to help others. He commonly asks persons with limb loss what it is they want to do and then helps them find a way to do it. This includes playing tackle football!
One of my favorite moments from the presentation centered on the exchange of stories and ideas between Randy and retired Traverse City veterinarian and international ski champion George Lombard. George lost his leg in a farm accident more than 60 years ago. The two men discussed the role of sports in their lives, pain, diet, balance, sockets or what the stump fits into, ganglions or massive nerve tissue and neuromas, or tumors consisting of nerve fibers. George mentioned that with age, the stump of a limb can shrink and create difficulty in fitting the prosthesis. Arthritis in one's hips, back and other parts of the body can also add challenges to using a prosthesis.
Both men said regardless of how many years it's been, they can still remember the day of their accidents in complete detail: sounds, sights, smells — everything.
George and his wife Lorna have been married for more than 50 years. She literally beams when she talks about him. A retired teacher, Lorna told me that when she met George at MSU she didn't know he wore prosthesis. She said he's always been proud of his gait.
The Lombards have a long history of being very generous in their support of others in our community dealing with limb loss. George and Lorna looked at Randy's robotic ankle as they shared a story about George making his first prosthesis out of wood. At the end of the presentation, Randy and George removed their shoes and socks and took a side by side photo of their prostheses. I overheard Randy say that there are over 300 different types of feet people can select.
Randy's given many presentations and said a common question children ask him is whether he showers and sleeps with his prosthesis on. The answer is no.
As I said goodbye to George, Lorna and Randy, I thought of the 26-year-old Iraqi veteran in the news who just had a double-arm transplant operation at John Hopkins Hospital. I wondered how this person with quadriplegia would get along with his new limbs and the irony of science and technology expanding during war times.
I remembered my beloved high school driver's education teacher who used a hook for one of his hands and all of the folks without arms who manage to do everything with their feet. I reflected on other people I have known who have experienced limb loss and struggled with grieving and hardship and the stares and comments of the public.
My mind also wandered to the times one medical person or another told me that I might be better off having my legs removed. After all, they'd say, they don't work and you don't use them anyway.
Placing the copy of the book Randy gave me for my friend in my backpack, I left the store in search of her.
There was a lot to talk about.
Susan Odgers, a resident of Traverse City for the past 25 years, has used a wheelchair for 36 years. She is a faculty member at Northwestern Michigan College and Grand Valley State University. She can be reached via the Record-Eagle.


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Welcome to a rainy Monday morning and a holiday week. As you might expect, not a lot of art events are swinging wide the doors this week -- and quite a few are closing. I'd especially recommend getting to the "Wisconsin Moderns" show at the Dean Jensen Gallery before it closes if you can. Here is Stacey Williams-Ng's review of that show.
As the world at large seems to be gearing up for a week of mass consumption, i.e. the post-Thanksgiving shopping crush, consider supporting artists, local and otherwise, by doing some of your holiday shopping at Art vs. Craft. This year's fair, founded and organized by Art City contributor Faythe Levine, will feature 70 vendors of handmade items. I know I will be there.
Now, here's the rundown.
"Hunting for Art" at the Jura Silverman Studio and Gallery (Spring Green) on Nov. 26
"Disappeared" work by Hans Gindlesberger at Carroll University on Nov. 23
"Fall Photography Exhibition" at Carroll University on Nov. 23
"Dia de los Muertos Exhibition" at the Walker's Point Center for the Arts on Nov. 23
"The Good, The Bad and The Chimp" Grand Re-Opening at Luckystar Studio on Nov. 27
"Wisconsin Moderns" at the Dean Jensen Gallery on Nov. 27
"Someday My Prints Will Come" at the Racine Art Museum on Nov. 27
Michael Santini & Friends at the Cedarburg Cultural Center on Nov. 28
"Hunting for Art" at the Jura Silverman Studio and Gallery (Spring Green) on Nov. 28
"Contemporary American Prints" at the Kenosha Public Museum on Nov. 28
Betsy Byers, Polly Norman, Pauly Cudd, Susan Kattas, & Jospehine Geiger at the Phipps Galleries (Hudson) on Nov. 28
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In a Jan. 29, 2012 photo country music icon Willie Nelson performs during a fund raising concert for U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich in Lorain, Ohio. Organizers of a Colorado fundraiser say country music legend Willie Nelson cancelled an appearance Saturday Aug. 18, 2012. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Willie Nelson has proven to be one of America's most prolific songwriters. Turns out he's no slouch when it comes to memoirs, either: He has a new one due in November.
Nelson will release "Roll Me Up And Smoke Me When I Die" on Nov. 13. Publisher William Morrow says the American music icon will tell never-before-heard stories about his life, family, music, politics, Texas, religion and favorite recreational activity.
A news release says the book will include contributions from family and friends, artwork by his son Micah and a forward by author, musician and friend Kinky Friedman.
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World of Warcraft (WoW) players are sick to death of reading reviews that ask, "Is this game a WoW-killer?" WoW player Marco Lemos doesn't want any game to kill WoW, his go-to MMO for the past six years. But Lemos said, "I wants a game to challenge WoW, because competition is healthy and will make Blizzard innovate. I love WoW, but it's been very complacent for the last nine months." I asked him to play Guild Wars 2 (GW2) during the Headstart Weekend with me, to see what he thinks of the newest entry into the MMO genre.
The result: After only one session of ArenaNet's new game, he said, "I'm really, really impressed with Guild Wars 2. When there's a lull in WoW activity, between raids or we've cleared most of the dungeons, this is something I can do on a break."
Since this game can be played at your leisure, it's ideal for WoW players who want a change of scenery. WoW players who enjoy PvP will find that GW2 provides the balanced fighting they have been asking for years, said Lemos.
He said, "I will be playing them both."
I'll let the WoW player describe GW2 in his own words.
What I like about Guild Wars 2
- GW2 has an amazing graphics engine. The character models are top notch, much better than what I've seen in WoW for over six years. The world ambience, sounds, and music is perfect for the game's world. This is the first MMO that I've played where I don't immediately mute the game sounds.
- Character creation is one of the better ones I have seen in a long time. I was surprised with the amount of detail you can adjust the character model. Also filling out the history of your character is a nice touch, since it affects personal storyline quests, and choices you will make in game. Class choices seem spot on as well. Mesmer and Thief are the classes I rolled so far, and both seemed to be balanced. There were mutterings that Elementalists are overpowered, but I'll get a feel for that once I can do more PvP.
- Dynamic Events (DE) are nice quests that appear throughout different parts of the maps. You'll be running into those a ton if you go out exploring, like I did. Some are easy to find, some take more work. But just being in a DE area with twenty to thirty people, working together to succeed in the DE, was a sight to behold. I haven't seen that in a long time.
- As a thief, I loved the "steal" ability. The simple idea of gaining an ability from an enemy that you're fighting refreshes the whole idea of the thief/rogue archetype. I squeed in happiness when I stole a warrior's Whirlwind attack and used it against him. Depending on what you fight, you can steal different abilities. It adds a whole new dynamic to combat.
- I can't go back to WoW combat after this. Being able to jump, dodge enemy attacks, and attack on the move makes the combat more interactive. In WoW, people rely on a rotation of skills to maximize damage, whereas in GW2, your skill usage will depend on the situation. This applies even more to PvP combat, since the skills you select will either make or break your encounters.
The fact that different classes can use different weapon types, plus the fact you can hold different weapons in different Main Hand and Off Hand slots, blew me away. Using two daggers in MH and OH gives me access to different skills from someone using a dagger and pistol in MH/OH. Add to this the fact that you can do combinations with your skills to get a combined spell effect (either with your own skills, or another players) it surprised me. I'll say, it will be difficult to get used to WoW's rigid combat system again after playing this.
About the servers – this is a common misconception. The only thing that affects servers is World vs. World. Players can Guest on any other server they like to play with their friends. However, you can only play World vs. World on your home server.
I agree w/most of this post except for one thing about add-ons and macros.
One of the great things about GW2 is the fact you don't have mods and macros. No need for healbot and no need to create 100 macros in order to be viable in pvp (cough cough warrior/hunter), no need to add performance enhancing mods (DBM).
This although helped the community improve their game, it also gave players crutches and it also forced blizzard's end game design to revolve around the mods.
I'm glad it doesn't have either and I hope they never bring it.
I prefer Guild Wars 2, after playing WOW for 5 years. but one thing i find annoying at the moment, is this going into overflow zones, and when your teamed up, you are split, but you can still continue the quest or what ever, even if you in the middle of a quest, and then you accept the move from overflow dialogue, the fights gone, and you need to start again or find another event.
This overflow thing sucks and is getting a lot of people really annoyed.
Note that guild wars 2 just came out a couple months ago. Think how gw2 will become in 1-2 years allowing addons and such. It will get better within months and will draw people in even more. As for WoW if im not in a guild i dont like the game isnt that great. Thats the big thing for me about WoW. No good guild=boring assness. GW2 i think needs to make it so we can go on any server we want and make it so we can have more then 5 characters. So far thats the only thing i dont like about GW2.
"You're limited to one server"
Server limitations only apply to WvW. I've done quests and PvP with people across other servers, even some of our guild is on a different server and we play together all the time. Dungeon instances aren't tied to a server, and overflow servers allow cross server exploring. Chat, guild and friend lists are all cross-server. Guesting is also available soon and makes it even easier.
Actually, yes. It was there when the game started. I found that out accidentally. I was in an overflow area when a little asuran warrior popped up and helped me when I was outnumbered. We chatted, continued to adventure, friend listed, and then he applied to join the guild. This was all shortly after launch. We didn't find out until later that he was on a different server. So yes.. you could chat with people from other servers since the beginning… they just don't have guesting available yet.
But there's something you CAN do that usually works IF (and only if) you and your friend go in an overflow zone. Try to party up with your friend from the other server before you enter the zone, then go into an overcrowded zone together. So long as both of you go to overflow, you'll probably go to the same overflow instance. But if either of you go to the normal instance, you can't play together. So this option has become less and less available as the zone populations have spread out.
Actually, I stand corrected. It was actually available BEFORE release. I was with my guild in the beta events. We switched from the Fort Aspenwood server to Stormbluff Isle between events. Some of our guildies didn't get the message and created their characters on Fort Aspenwood. I was told by several of my guildie friends that they were able to join the guild and communicate with us in the game even though they were on the wrong server. So I don't know who this developer is that told you it wasn't available… because it was… back in beta. And I have a large group of people that can confirm that through experience.
Here is a link to a post on the gw2guru forums where people discovered you could do this during beta… http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/42462-guesting-and-guilds/, and it's been like this ever since. One of the posters is Notrub… he's a fellow guildie that brought this to my attention.
We could from the beginning of Beta, not just now. I know because I did it. It's nothing new.


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I am a fan of Hemant Mehta, as one of the few asian atheists online, reading his work got me writing my own stuff. However I disagree with his guest blogger, Kristine Kruszelnicki who is the president of the Pro-Life Humanists. I value free speech and differing opinions. I figure Hemant Mehta has the same ideas, …
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The question of who will back up Nebraska's presumptive starting quarterback Zac Lee has taken another turn with news that Kody Spano has reinjured an already tender knee.
Spano tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee during practice on Tuesday during a noncontact running drill. It's the same injury the redshirt freshman quarterback suffered during spring practice. Coaches say Spano is out for the 2009 season.
The focus now turns to three other backups: true freshmen Cody Green and Taylor Martinez and junior Latravis Washington, who played linebacker until switching to quarterback in April.
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Modular industrial power controls reduce energy use
Siemens Sirius Innovations line, a new modular power control system, is touted as efficient, flexible, and connected. Sized at 10 hp and 30 hp, they incorporate sustainable elements that make more efficient use of space, simplify assembly, and reduce power consumption.
Siemens Industry Inc. introduced the next generation of its proven Sirius Modular System of power control products with the Feb. 1 release of a new line called Sirius Innovations.
The Sirius Innovations line comes in sizes S00 (10 hp) and S0 (30 hp) and incorporates sustainable elements that make more efficient use of space and simplify assembly, while reducing power consumption. Increased power performance up to 40 A in a reduced 45 mm footprint is one key benefit to the space savings provided by the new products.
Additionally, Sirius Innovations include IO-Link communication modules that dramatically reduce control wiring and quickly snap onto contactors of direct, reversing and wye-delta motor starters up to 30 horsepower. The IO-Link modules also allow status and diagnostic data communication to the Siemens Totally Integrated Automation (TIA) platform. AS-Interface communication modules for motor starters have also been added to the product range.
"Sirius Innovations is a feature-rich new series of power controls that offers benefits to panel builders and end users alike," said Raj Batra, president of the Industry Automation Division of Siemens Industry Inc. "With the introduction of this new line, Siemens is setting a new standard in terms of capability and reliability while helping customers stay flexible in design, efficient in their processes and connected to critical information."
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Feb. 16 is the date for the 12th Annual Raffle Night with Casino Games fundraiser for the Weatherford Citizen Police Academy Alumni Association.
This event is held each February at the Senior Center in Weatherford.
Each year the event offers blackjack, craps, roulette, bingo, Texas Hold 'Em and prize wheels, not to mention great raffle items and food.
The economy may be tough, but numerous business people have stepped up to make this year's event possible by sponsoring tables, donating items and money to make the event enjoyable by everyone.
Corporate sponsors are Grogan Family Foundation, Weatherford Telegram, Sargent's Wrecker Service and Jerry Durant Auto Group.
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Before the adventures of the crew of the USS Enterprise, there were the adventures of the Seaview.
Video Rating: 5 / 5
Before the adventures of the crew of the USS Enterprise, there were the adventures of the Seaview.
Video Rating: 5 / 5
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Going back in time.
Video Rating: 4 / five
Here it is the full episode of green acres in full originality with original CBS network commercials. Take pleasure in.
Video Rating: 4 / 5
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black and white 1966 Green Acres show..opening theme song and video
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Apparently, we helped an audience member of Bozo the Clown discover a clip of himself online! This is awesome. How great is it that my funny obsession with old television shows could help Steven from Boston find a clip from way back when he was an audience member on the Bozo the Clown show?
Here's the note he sent us. I hope you get as big a kick out of it as I did:
I don't who you are or where you got these clips of Bozo the Clown but you rocked my world. I'll tell you how:
In 1966 at age 7 in first grade. I was on Bozo the Clown in Boston. I always distinctly recalled knowing where I sat. I figured even if it was 1966 out of 52 shows a year the odds were nil that I would be on one of these few shows let alone able to spot myself! So I sat studied each clip knowing where too look. I'd be sitting right next to Bozo's entrance in the first row at the very end. @#$%^ A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BINGO!!! I SPOTTED MYSELF!!! Are you *&^%$ kidding me?!?!?
You want to talk about outrageous coincidences and extreme randomness??? This is it . You won't find anything in life this absurd! This is 45 YEARS AGO!! ago, a local little TV show, a couple hundred shows Channel 5 had moved to Needham from Dorchester when it changed hands in 1970 (now WCVB), and has since been sold four times already, and those shows were trashed. This is Lottery number odds finding mysell here!!
The irony is that I used to work at Channel 5 starting in 1977 (who knew, 11 years later) and know a bit of the history of the sale between WHDH and WCVB. Quite a dispute over the license and I know WHDH did not want to sell their old shows to CVB as part of the sale. Most of them all got trashed.
Because I knew where I sat, I knew where to look. BINGO!!!! I found myself!! My mother dressed me in gray suit (and the boy to MY left was a long time childhood friend (who I haven't seen in 30 years) but know his Mom –she's best friends with my mother, was stunned too. She saw this and said yes, that's my son and Steven. Not many dressed their kids in red suits like that. Bombastically stunning!! I am beside myself after week of finding this.
I am in the very first clip/show that appears in the immediately when Bozo makes his big entry on the left side of the screen, in the first row between two boys wearing red suits..
This is absolutely stunning and random.
Where did you get these? Classic!
Thanks for posting it.
Check out more Bozo the Clown greatness on this compilation DVD from Amazon.com.
Here it is the full episode of green acres in full originality with original CBS network commercials. Enjoy.
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LBJ Visit Day: Mom & Anthony Parlor TV room 1966 60s * 1301 – 57st
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Frances [Mom] and Anthony [me] in 1966 Brooklyn. Mom has a bandage on her leg and hand because she and I were on our corner watching Lyndon B. Johnson's motorcade pass by. The motorcycles were first and she did not get out of the way in time. One of them threw her aside: the exhaust pipe nicked her leg and the handle bar smashed into her hand. Nobody stopped. I helped Mom off the ground. They started from the low end of 13th ave Boro Park, through part of Bensonhurst and into Bay Ridge. There was a recent article in The Home Reporter about this being 45 years ago since LBJ's visit. I have pix of Ford – a secret sevice guy yanked me off a pedestrian traffic sign. We have no luck! Note the BIG Zenith B&W television, 50s flooring and wallpaper, the wooden blinds from the 40s. Vintage Interior. In the early 70s we place an ugly drop ceiling up that made the room look small. No, I should say less large. We only still have that mirror in storage. Photo was taken using a Brownie with a flashbulb mixed with sunlight causing those light stripes across Mom's face. We got a COLOR Magnavox in 1966. Imagine: New Star Trek episodes in color as they came out on Sunday early evening! Barbra Eden looked nice in color too. Are YOU old enough to remember the TV Repairman visits with his big tube box and testers? Any comments or questions? Almost forgot: In one of the photos in this series I am playing "President of the United States [POTUS] in a little cardboard chair I made. Too cute..what a swell head! PS: I had started to take photos with the same Kodak Brownie camera at this time.
Panelists Tom Poston, Peggy Cass, Orson Bean and Kitty Carlisle try to figure out who is the daring young woman on the flying trapeze, Donna Meyers. Originally broadcast Sept. 16,1966.
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NORMAN — Is anyone surprised that after Anthony Weiner conceded defeat Tuesday in New York City's Democratic primary for mayor, he gave a reporter the middle finger as he drove away?
One of the first of five candidates to concede, Weiner, the disgraced former congressman, got only 5 percent of the votes. That's 5 percent too many.
In a string of disgraces, Weiner resigned from Congress in 2011 for sending women lewd online messages and pictures. He got into the mayor's race in May, only to get caught on camera doing the same thing under a pseudonym, Carlos Danger.
We hope this is the last time this walking punchline declares his candidacy for, well, anything.
In Tuesday's concession speech, Weiner acknowledged he was an "imperfect messenger." The message sent by voters was spot on.
So, while our last vision (hopefully) of former Rep. Weiner is that of him flipping the bird, it was the voters who ultimately made the same gesture to him at the ballot box.
Good riddance.
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