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Toyota Avalon Limited vs Lexus ES 350
It is quite possible for two engines with the same compression ratio to have different octane requirements. Why? Engine Management System is the answer. Once the heat of combustion takes place and expands to the cylinder's walls, how efficient this heat is managed depends on plumbing layout and the ECM and ECUs design/configuration to adjust the fuel mixture accordingly.
Here's another related case: One of my co-worker has an '08 BMW X5, 4.8i. The compression ratio for this engine is 10.5:1. The Owner's Manual states that "premium unleaded gasoline with a minimum octane rating of 91 is REQUIRED." On the other hand, my '08 Avi, with a compression ratio of 10.8:1, has no premium fuel requirements and runs extremely well on regular with no engine knocking whatsoever. By compression ratio alone, this does not make sense; my avy should be gulping premium too. Seems like the [non-permissible content removed] are beating the Germans in this area (jeje).
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The Avalon and the ES350 use the exact same 2GR engine. Even the Avalon suggests premium for "enhanced performance". My guess would be that on the Lexus requiring premium fuel is not a big deal for most buyers where on the Toyota nameplate it may be. If you notice the Avalon is rated at 268 HP on reg and the Lexus is rated at 272 on premium.
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See the comments above. Certainly, different engines can require different octane with the same compression ratio. Here, we're dealing with the same engine, with the added power coming from (probably) the added advance the knock sensor-controlled engine will allow with premium. The same power increase is also likely available to any 3.5 l car (Avalon, Camry, etc.).
My Owner's Manual states that either regular or premium yields optimum engine performance (it is "either"; not just premium). Contrary to popular belief, the 268HP cap on the Avalon's 2GR-FE won't be increased by switching to premium fuel alone. That engine has to undergo serious mods in order to increase the horsepower output even by a few digets.
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The 2GR-FE engine from the Avalon is the same thing as what is installed in the ES350 the slightly higher HP rating in the ES is from the requirement of premium fuel. Here is a shot of the owners manual from the '06 Avalo, showing my point: "for improved vehicle performance...."
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Anyone with a 2008 Owner's Manual for the Avalon sold in the U.S. can check page 414; It says nothing different from what I stated earlier.
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One of the engines has a tweak that the other doesn't. In very simple terms, horsepower depends on the thermal efficiency of the engine. Fuel type alone won't increase this efficiency.
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A 2GR - FE is a the same no matter what they put it into. They share all the same specs. Even on the spec sheet for the ES350 it reads:
"Ratings achieved using the required premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 or higher. If premium fuel is not used, performance will decrease"
What does that tell you? Do you really think Toyota would tweak this engine for a lousy 4 HP? The "tweaked" version of this engine is the 2GR-FSE which is direct injected and used in the IS/GS and makes a little over 300HP.
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hanscua Posts: 3I'm planning to buy or lease a Toyota Avalon Limited in the very future, which would feel luxury like the Lexus ES 350. The Lexus ES 350 has a power tilt and telescopic steering column and the Toyota Avalon does not have a power tilt and telescopic steering column. Before I buy or lease a Toyota Avalon Limited in the very future, I'm requesting the Toyota Avalon Limited to offer a power tilt and telescopic steering column for the late availability 2009 model year available at Toyota dealers by October, November, or December of this year 2008 so I can buy or lease a 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited with a power tilt and telescopic steering column and feel luxury like the Lexus ES 350 rather than having the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited still offer a manual tilt and telescopic steering column. If the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited comes with rain-sensing variable intermittent windshield wipers, heated and ventilated front seats, power rear sunshade, wood grain style leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob, wood grain style interior, perforated leather seats, steering wheel mounted audio and climate controls, vehicle stability control with traction control and brake assist, 2-way driver's side memory systems, 8-way power driver's seat with power lumbar support, optitron meters with tachometer, speedometer, coolant temperature gauge, fuel gauge, and digital odometer with twin trip meters, smart key system with push button start, JBL synthesis AM/FM stereo with 6-disc in dash changer with hands free phone via bluetooth, optional dynamic laser cruise control, optional 8-way power passenger seat with power lumbar support, power windows with driver and passenger auto-touch up/down, power door locks with anti lockout feature, power moonroof, chrome outside door handles, etc., then the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited should come with power tilt and telescopic steering column rather than a manual tilt and telescopic steering column.
lexpaul Posts: 40I wonder how someone could preach the virtues of the Avalon Limited to a Lexus forum, it's funny by stuff happens. The Avi and 350 are targeted at two different types of buyers. The Avi is a nice vehicle and I considered buying one myself and I know about all the features trust me, but what sold me on the 350 was its size and looks AND features. I simply don't want a big car. If I considered anything other than the 350 it would probably be a 08 or 09 CTS. The 350 looks better and I like how it drives. Now that is subjective, because someone else may come along and say, "Hey the Avi is the greatest car since the Model T" So, lets appreciate that no matter what, some folks will relish vanilla ice cream while others will relish strawberry and move on. Most of the folks who buy the 350 have already considered the Avi so you're preaching to the converted (converted to 350), Go to a Chrysler 300 forum and try to convert them..... :shades:
I don't think people will shop Avalon after driving ES, totally different car
Really? Same engine, same frame, mostly the same suspension...... They drive similar, the size is the biggest difference. IMO if you need the size go for the Avalon, if you like the smaller vehicle go for the ES at a small price premium.
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Camry, Avalon, ES, Highlander, Venza, RX share same engine, transmission(next model year for crossover's), etc. Are they all the same, no, it all depends on need, taste and $$$. ES stands out and is much better than the Camry or Avalon, go figure. Also, if the customer is less than 50 years and choose Avalon over ES for size than they have serious health issues called obesity.
"Also, if the customer is less than 50 years and choose Avalon over ES for size than they have serious health issues called obesity. "
Nice gratuitous insult. Not needed. I've looked at both, currently drive an ES300, and the ES350 is not acceptible because of the compromises made to styling. The rear door opening has been squashed to go after the 4-door coupe look. I want to take friends and clients out without apolgizing for the accomodations.


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No lineup changes for the Sabres tonight and no Evgeni Malkin for the Penguins. He took the morning skate but still needs practice time on his injured knee. The Penguins have called up Dustin Jeffrey from Wilkes-Barre of the AHL, where he was his team's leading scorer, and he'll get into the lineup tonight.
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Disclaimer: A little tech trouble at the start of the chat with Crosby led me to miss about the first 20 seconds of my opening question on the winning streak but Crosby's answer was a simple, "Each game is tough. you try to prepare accordingly. We've been competing hard with a lot of effort and getting a lot of big plays from everybody. We just want to keep that going."
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Thanks to an impressive win over No. 3 Portsmouth, top-ranked La Salle has solidified its grip on the No. 1 spot in the latest Rhode Island High School Football Media Poll.
La Salle gained six points and three more first place votes from last week, increasing its lead on No. 2 Hendrickren from two points to nine. The Hawks won their game, shutting out South Kingstown.
The rest of the poll stayed relatively stable, except for two teams. Cumberland moved up four spots, from No. 16 to No. 12. The Clippers are 1-1, with a competitive 12-6 loss to Division I Cranston West and a shutout of Division II Central, 28-0.
Woonsocket plummeted in the rankings, from No. 10 to No. 19. They were thrashed by No. 7 Johnston, 43-6, on Friday night. The Panthers moved up two spots in the poll with the win.
Now that they're in Division II, North Kingstown has definitely looked better this year, but they're still more toward the bottom of their division than the top. The Skippers have a win over Coventry – an unranked team – and a loss to West Warwick.
The poll is compiled thanks to the hard work of Eric Rueb, a sports editor with Southern Rhode Island Newspapers. Patch's ballot is cast by Stephen Greenwell, the local editor of the South Kingstown and Narragansett site.Rank Team Points Last Week Patch # 1 La Salle (10) 276 1 2 2 Hendricken (3) 267 2 1 3 Cranston East (1) 250 4 4 t-4 Barrington 211 6 9 t-4 Portsmouth 211 3 3 6 Westerly 197 7 6 7 Johnston 190 9 11 8 Tolman 183 5 5 9 Cranston West 165 8 8 10 St. Ray's 143 12 16 11 West Warwick 139 11 7 12 Cumberland 104 16 15 13 East Providence 103 13 10 14 Chariho 95 15 13 t-15 Middletown 87 17 17 t-15 South Kingstown 87 14 12 17 Shea 62 18 NR 18 Moses Brown 39 20 NR 19 Woonsocket 35 10 14 20 East Greenwich 33 19 18
Dropped from poll: None.
Also receiving votes: Exeter-West Greenwich 14, Mount Pleasant 13, Hope 8, Warwick Veterans 8, Central 7, Rogers 4, Toll Gate 4, Smithfield 3, Tiverton 2.
The Rhode Island Sports Media football poll is voted on by 13 local media members who regularly cover Rhode Island high school football. The poll is administrated and compiled by Eric Rueb of Southern Rhode Island Newspapers.
PATCH BALLOTRank Team Media Last Week 1 Hendricken 2 1 2 La Salle 1 2 3 Portsmouth t-4 3 4 Cranston East 3 7 5 Tolman 8 4 6 Westerly 6 5 7 West Warwick 11 6 8 Cranston West 9 8 9 Barrington t-4 9 10 East Providence 13 11 11 Johnston 7 17 12 South Kingstown t-15 10 13 Chariho 14 14 14 Woonsocket 19 12 15 Cumberland 12 15 16 St. Ray's 10 16 17 Middletown t-15 NR 18 East Greenwich 20 NR 19 Exeter-West Greenwich NR 19 20 Rogers NR 18
With a couple more games in the books, the ballot process gets clearer for me. In general, Rhode Island football usually has tiers:
- The best teams are almost always in Division I. In past years, the rare non-division, non-Injury Fund games between Division I and Division II or III teams have normally been dominated by the teams in Division I. And amongst Division I, it is very, very rare for Hendricken or La Salle to be below No. 5.
- Because of this, I generally tend to keep Division I teams in the Top 10 to 15 of the poll. (Only two exceptions spring to mind: North Kingstown didn't really belong in Division I the past few years, and one year, Cranston East went 0-for a majority of a season, before finally sneaking into an end of the year poll.)
- Generally, a couple Division II teams – two to five – can hang with the Division I teams.
- And off of the above point, a couple Division III teams – two to five – normally can hang with the Division II teams.
- Usually, my ballot only have one Division IV team, at most. For the two years I've been voting, the non-division record of Division IV teams is something like .250.
With all that in mind, here's how the teams in respective Patch towns fared this week:
- Barrington moved up to a tie for fourth with Portsmouth after beating Cranston West 14-0. West fell to No. 9 with the loss. In my ballot, I have West No. 8 and Barrington No. 9. In reflection, I should probably flip-flop them. I'm still undecided as to whether Barrington is in the lower half of the division, or if they're a playoff team in Division I that just happened to get beat by a tough Division II Westerly squad.
- Coventry did not get any consideration for inclusion in the poll. The Oakers are 0-3, and have been outscored 71-12 this year, despite only playing one Division I team.
- Cranston East moved up to No. 3 on the media ballot after beating No. 8 Tolman 21-13. It's a nice win for East, and I bumped them up from No. 7 to No. 4 on my ballot. East has a big game against Barrington on Saturday – It's an early season game that could have big playoff ramifications, since both teams look like they could be in the hunt for a playoff seed.
- For Cranston West, see the Barrington entry.
- East Greenwich isn't a traditional football power, but the Division III squad snuck into the No. 18 spot on my ballot, and into the No. 20 spot on the media poll. Although the results aren't on RIIL yet, the Avengers beat Ponaganset, an impressive win to me, given that Ponaganset was in Division II last year. East Greenwich has a tough test this week, as Tiverton is usually a tough team at home.
- East Providence played a non-league and non-Rhode Island game against Foxborough. As a result, they stayed steady in both the Patch ballot and the media poll. The Townies get to host Hendricken this week – Good luck.
- As mentioned above, Johnston beat the tar out of Woonsocket, a week after Woonsocket beat Division I East Providence in a non-league game. Johnston is now in the thick of the poll with Division I teams as a result, and will need to beat Mt. Hope on Friday to stay there. Woonsocket tumbled down the polls, and probably won't get a good chance to rise until a game against Westerly two weeks from now. Woonsocket's opponent Friday, Warwick Vets, traditionally isn't a football powerhouse.
- In their first two games, Middletown tied Division II Mt. Hope and then beat the snot out of Division IV Central Falls. However, the end of 2011 lingered in my mind with them – They made the Division III Super Bowl thanks to a Narragansett team that committed about 40 personal fouls, and then got completely steamrolled by Rogers. But with the Vikings now in Division II, the Islanders look like the early favorites in the division, especially after putting up 58 against Burrillville. I have them at No. 17, the highest Division III team, as a result.
- Mt. Hope didn't get serious consideration from me. They have a tie against a Division III team, a 43-point loss to a Division I team and a 23-point loss to a Division II team. To make matters worse, their next two games are against Johnston and Chariho, two teams that look like contenders in Division II.
- Narragansett is winless so far this year. No consideration for the poll as a result.
- I kept Portsmouth at No. 3 in my ballot, despite the 42-25 loss to La Salle. If they had beaten La Salle, I probably would have moved them to No. 1. The Patriots have a key early-season game at Cranston Stadium against West on Saturday.
- Rogers is winless so far this year, although they've only played against Division I and Division II teams. However, until they do win a game, I can't really justify ranking them much higher than their current position of No. 20. Another loss knocks them out for a while. They play at Cumberland on Friday.
- South Kingstown hasn't scored a touchdown since August – and that was an Injury Fund game against Division II Chariho. As a result, the Rebels are the lowest-ranked Division I team, and probably won't have a chance to dispel that reputation until next week, when they play at Portsmouth on Sept. 29. This week, South Kingstown hosts Attleboro.
- Tiverton took care of business against Narragansett this week, winning 33-20. However, they also have a 26-18 loss to Division IV Hope on their dossier. A win against East Greenwich this weekend will get them a spot on my ballot, at the expense of the Avengers.
- For Woonsocket, see the Johnston entry.
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Bears (3-3) vs Buccaneers (4-2) (London)—Bears scored 30-34-39 points in their three wins, with a TD on defense or special teams in all three games- they scored 13-17-13 in losses. Bucs were outscored 41-3 in first half of their two road games this season- five of their six games were decided by 7 or less points. Chicago is 10-4-1 vs number in last 15 games where spread was 3 or less points; Tampa Bay is 3-7-2 in its last 12. Teams used to be division rivals; Bucs are 3-2 in series since then, with last three meetings all decided by 3 points, the last two going OT. Bucs are 19-13 vs spread in game following their last 32 wins; Bears are 7-6 after their last 13 wins, but 0-2 this year. NFC North teams are 10-6 vs spread in non-divisional games; NFC South teams are 8-8. Bears are 3-6 in last nine pre-bye games (2-4 last six as pre-bye favorite); Bucs lost 35-7/38-13 in last two pre-bye games (2-7 last nine as pre-bye dog).
Redskins (3-2) @ Panthers (1-5) – Who gets starting nod at QB for Washington after Grossman's 9-22, 4-INT nightmare Sunday? Carolina allowed 28+ points in all five losses; their only win came on rainy day here, only game they've been favored to win this year. Panthers are 7-3-1 vs spread last 11 times they were favored by 3 or less points; their defense is having trouble getting off field- opponents converted 19 of last 28 3rd down plays. Home side won last six series games, with Redskins losing 20-17/20-17 in last two visits here, their only losses in nine series games (eight of nine decided by 4 or less points). Carolina lost 21-7/23-6 in last two pre-bye games- they're 0-5-1 as a pre-bye favorite. NFC East road teams are 5-2-1 vs spread in non-divisional games; NFC South home teams are 5-3, home favorites 3-2. Last four Washington games stayed under total, with totals of 34-27 in two road games; four of six Panther games went over.
Seahawks (2-3) @ Browns (2-3)—Mike Holmgren runs the Browns now; he ran Seahawk franchise for long time before that, so this game probably has little extra in it for Cleveland. Seattle is 7-20 vs spread in its last 27 games as road dog (3-7 if road dog of 3 or less points), 5-17 in its last 22 post-bye games- they covered last three games as an underdog, after losing first two games by combined score of 57-17. Hawks came east and upset the Giants before the bye- they have seven takeaways in their two wins (+3), none in three losses (-5). Browns scored 17-13-17 points in last three games, needing last-minute TD to beat the dreadful Dolphins; they're 7-12-1 vs spread in last 20 games where spread was 3 or less points. Cleveland has been outrushed in every game, by average of 50.2 yards- they're 2-9 in last 11 games as home favorite, 0-3 this season. 6.0/5.4/5.1/4.3. Seattle won two of three series games, but teams last met in '07.
Chargers (4-1) @ Jets (3-3)--- Jets are 0-3 vs teams with winning records, giving up 30+ points in all three games, but all three were on road; offense has total of 405 yards last two weeks, converting just 7 of 26 on third down, so huge edge at QB for San Diego, which has held four of five opponents to 275 or less total yards (Patriots gained 504 against Bolts). Lot of subplots here, with Tomlinson going against old team and Schottenheimer coaching against team his dad used to coach—Chargers fired Marty despite his almost taking them to Super Bowl. San Diego won six of last eight post-bye games, covering three of last four as post-bye dog. Gang Green won last meeting 17-14 at San Diego in '09 playoffs; they've won four of last six series meetings, with two of four wins in playoff games. Jets are 4-8-1 in last 13 games as favorite of 3 or less points, San Diego allowed 17 or less points in all three home games, but allowed 35-24 in two games on foreign soil.
Texans (3-3) @ Titans (3-2)—Big game for sliding Houston club that lost three of last four games and has been outscored in second half of every game this year (total of 72-37 in last four games); loss of stars on both sides of ball (WR Johnson/DE Williams) proved critical in winnable game at Baltimore last week. Favorite covered all three Houston road games; Texans are 0-2 as road dog, losing 40-33 at Saints (+4), 29-14 (+7) at Baltimore. Tennessee gave up 14 or less points in each of its three wins, 16-38 in its losses- they've already beaten Ravens/Broncos at home, allowing 13-14 points. Houston is 3-2 in last five series games, after having been 2-11 in first 13 meetings; Texans lost seven of nine visits here, with five of seven losses by 7+ points. Houston has been lost three of last four games, Tennessee is 6-3 in last nine games as divisional home favorite- they won four of last five post-bye games. Five of six Houston games stayed under the total.
Broncos (1-4) @ Dolphins (0-5)—Miami is incredible 6-29 vs spread in last 35 games as home favorite; they're honoring 2008 Florida Gators here, team whose starting QB was Tebow, who gets his 4th career NFL start here for struggling Denver, which is 0-7 in Miami, with five of seven losses by 10+ points. Fish are 0-2 at home, losing by 14-10 points; 0-5 teams don't have much of home field edge, especially when opposing QB is college hero from that area. Broncos allowed 22-17 points in its wins, 23-49-29 in losses- Miami hasn't scored more than 16 points in any of its last four games. Broncos are 3-6 in last nine games as home favorite, 1-1 this year (14-17 at Tennessee, 49-23 at Green Bay). Dolphins are favored for first time this season. Denver is 16-5 in its last 21 post-bye games; Fox was 5-1 in his last six post-bye games with Carolina. Four of five Denver games went over; last four Miami games stayed under.
Falcons (3-3) @ Lions (5-1)—Falcons have gone LWLWLW so far this year; they scored 30+ points in their wins, 12-13-14 in losses. Since 2008, they're 6-7 as road underdogs. Detroit allowed 23+ points in three of last four games, and trailed all four at halftime. Atlanta is 1-2 on road, winning at Seattle, losing at Chicago/Tampa. Third straight home game for Lions, who were outrushed 203-66 last week and converted only 2 of 15 third down plays- they're 26-31-2 in game following their last 59 losses. Falcons are 28-31-1 vs spread in game following their last 60 wins. Detroit is 6-4-1 in last 11 games as single digit favorite. Atlanta is 4-3 in last seven series games, after being 6-20 at one point; they're 4-15 in Motor City, but this is their first visit since '06. Three of Falcons' last four games stayed under total. NFC South road teams are 3-5 vs spread in non-divisional games. N FC North home favorites are 5-3.
Chiefs (2-3) @ Raiders (4-2)—Oakland lost QB Campbell (collarbone) for season last week, traded for Carson Palmer Wednesday, which leaves Boller as starter for this game; he's not good. Raiders are 5-2 in last seven series games, with three of five wins by 3 points- their OT win here LY was first time KC lost in last eight visits, and first time Oakland swept season series since '01. KC won last two games after 0-3 start, scoring 22-28 points vs Vikings/Colts (combined record, 1-11). Silver/Black allowed 38-31 points in only two losses (Bills/Patriots, combined record, 9-3); they're just 3-10 in last 13 games as home favorite, 1-0 this year. You're reading Armadillosports.com. Chiefs lost last four post-bye games, with three losses by 11+ points. Raiders are 7-4 in last 11 pre-bye games- this is first time since '05 they're favored in pre-bye game (2-3 last five). Last three Oakland games stayed under the total; average total in last ten series games, 31.5.
Steelers (4-2) @ Cardinals (1-4)—When Pittsburgh hired Tomlin as coach, they passed over Steeler assistants Whisenhunt/Grimm, who went on to desert, where they won NFC in '08 but lost Super Bowl in last minute to Steelers; this is their first meeting since. Cardinals lost last four games, three by four or less points- favorites covered Arizona's last six post-bye games; Redbirds lost four of last five (0-4 as post-bye dog). Steelers are 1-2 on road, scoring 7-10 points in losses at Ravens/Texans, and slogging thru 23-20 win at Manning-less indy (trailed 13-10 at half). Pitt has only two takeaways this season, with an amazing (for a 4-2 team) minus-11 turnover ratio. Steelers are 11-17 in last 28 games as road favorites; Arizona is 9-4 in last 13 games as a home underdog. Redbirds are 1-1 at home, getting hosed by terrible non-fumble call at end of 31-27 loss to Giants. Three of last four Cardinal games stayed under total. NFC West underdogs are 6-9-1 vs spread in non-division games, 1-4-1 at home.
Rams (0-5) @ Cowboys (2-3)—Sad-sack St Louis been outscored 86-9 in first half of last four games; they've got guys coming in off street and starting at CB. Only one of their five losses was by less than 12 points- they're 6-7 vs spread in last 13 games as double digit dog. Last 11 Dallas games were decided by 4 or less points- Pokes' only wins this year were by 3-2 points; they're 1-9-1 vs spread in last 11 games as a favorite, 4-8 in last dozen games as double digit fave. Addition of WR Lloyd should help St Louis offense right away, since he played for McDaniels last two years in Denver. NFC East home favorites are 1-5 vs spread in non-division games; NFC West underdogs are 6-9-1, 5-5 on foreign soil. Home team lost six of last eight series games, with Rams winning four of last five visits here, but impossible to endorse visitors until they at least compete for an entire 60-minute game.
Packers (6-0) @ Vikings (1-5)—Green Bay is 7-3 in last ten series games, winning 28-24/31-3 in LY's series; average total in last five series games is 51.6, but just 44.3 in last five in Metrodome (Pack 5-3 in last eight visits). Rookie QB Ponder gets start for Vikings after dreadful 39-10 loss last week in Chicago; McNabb looks washed-up, so might as well find out if the kid can play. Minnesota is 1-5, but with only one loss by more than seven points; they're 3-9 vs spread in last 12 games as home underdog. Packers coasted last week, are 5-1 vs spread this year, 8-5 in last 13 games as road favorite- their only non-cover this year was at Carolina, when Panthers covered thru back door late. League-wide, home underdogs are 6-4 vs spread in divisional games this season, but Vikings have been outscored in second half of every game this year (outscored by total of 100-29). Packers are 4-0-1 vs spread in last five games as pre-bye favorite.
Colts (0-6) @ Saints (4-2)—First series meeting since New Orleans won improbable Super Bowl title two years ago; this game was put in primetime because Peyton Manning is from Crescent City, but he ain't playing- winless Colts are 1-2 as road dogs, losing at Houston (7-34, +8.5), Tampa (17-24, +10), Cincinnati (17-27, +7). Indy has actually been very competitive in every game but the opener, but they've worn down in second half, outscored 71-34 in second half of last five games. Saints are 13-9-1 vs spread in last 23 games as home favorite, 2-0 this year, beating Texans (40-33)/Bears (30-13). Payton had broken leg/torn MCL operated on Monday, will call plays from press box, but he also missed two days of game-planning NFC south home teams are 5-3 vs spread in non-divisional games; AFC South underdogs are 5-8, 3-6 on road. Four of Colts' last five games stayed under total. Red flag for Saints are four takeaways in six games- they haven't had a game yet with 2+ takeaways.
Ravens (4-1) @ Jaguars (1-5)—Bully Ravens (four wins this year by 15+ points) against rookie QB playing on team that lost last five games, with three of five losses by 10+ points. Baltimore is 7-1 in last eight series games after losing first eight to expansion Jags- they're still just 2-5 in last seven visits here, with last win 10 years ago, and over last decade are just 5-10 as non-divisional road favorite. Ravens have superior record in game after bye, but last four years, they lost second game after the bye. Jags scored 13 or less points in four of five losses (five TD's, 26 3/outs on 58 drives); they're 10-19 vs spread in game after their last 29 losses. Ravens are 23-17-2 vs spread in game after their last 42 wins. Baltimore is allowing 76.6 rushing yards/game, held last three foes to 3.6./3.0/4.9 yards/pass attempt. Jaguars have been held under 4.0 ypa in three of last five games. Five of six Jacksonville games stayed under total; four of five Raven games went over, with Baltimore scoring 35-37-34-29 in its wins.
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Saturday, September 3, 2011
JUNE 29, 2010 - Fish and Game Commission refuses to recognize tribal gathering rights at meeting in Stockton
By: Dan Bacher
On June 29, the California Fish and Game Commission voted 4 to 1 at its meeting in Stockton to approve a "preferred alternative," an amended version of the "unified proposal" developed by fishing, environmental and tribal stakeholders to create a network of marine protected areas on the North Coast.
Commissioners Richard Rogers, Michael Sutton, Jack Baylis and Jim Kellogg voted for the alternative, while Commissioner Daniel Richards voted against it.
Natural Resources Agency Secretary John Laird, a strong supporter of Arnold Schwarzenegger's privately-funded Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative, claimed that the Commission decision was "a major victory in the effort to establish Marine Protected Areas on the north coast of California." He applauded the Commission for voting for an exception for area tribes to "continue hundreds of years of subsistence fishing."
"As we promised earlier this year, we have devised a pathway to begin the process to allow tribes on the North Coast to continue ancestral fishing practices in many of the areas most important to them," said Laird. "This is an extremely important decision to move the Marine Life Protection Act forward and to show respect for the sovereign tribal nations."
Laird said the plan will allow tribal gathering to continue in State Marine Conservation Areas (but not State Marine Reserves) by tribal users. "The gathering can continue where a factual record can be established that shows ancestral take or tribal gathering practices by a federally-recognized tribe in that specific Marine Protected Area," he stated.
"We sincerely appreciate the opportunity to work closely with the sovereign tribes of the North Coast and hope this provides a framework for future efforts on important conservation and environmental issues," said Laird.
Unfortunately, Laird failed to asked Tribal leaders about how they felt about this so-called "major victory."
Yurok Tribe: "an unjust and patronizing step"
In contrast with Laird's attempt to give a positive spin to the decision, the decision actually "failed to affirm traditional tribal gathering," according to a statement from the Yurok Tribe, the largest Indian Tribe in California with 5,500 members.
According to "Option 1" that the Commission adopted, tribal members sixteen or older would have to use a state recreational fishing license in addition to a Tribal ID and be limited by state regulations.
"I cannot accept the part about the fishing license," said Yurok Tribal Chairman Thomas O'Rourke Sr. "The Fish and Game has taken an unjust and patronizing step. No one can separate these resources from our culture."
Option 1 states: "Tribal gathering to continue in SMCAs (not SMRs), by specific tribal users, where a factual record can be established that shows ancestral take or tribal gathering practices by a federally-recognized tribe in that specific MPA (marine protected area), and by allowing only those tribes to take specified species with specified gear types."
The Northern California Tribal Chairmen's Association and the Inter-Tribal Sinkyone Wilderness Council, representing all of the recognized tribes in the study region, proposed a motion that would have affirmed traditional tribal harvest managed by individual Tribal governments.
The motion states: "Consistent with the tribal gathering general concepts described in Option 1…Traditional, non-commercial tribal uses shall be allowed to continue unimpeded within the proposed SMCAs and SMRMs in the MLPA's North Coast Study Region for all federally recognized tribes that can establish that they have practiced such uses within a specific SMCA or SMRMA."
However, the Commission refused to approve that motion, instead adopting a version of "Option 1" with the controversial new language as the "preferred alternative."
"We've said from the beginning tribal rights are nonnegotiable," Chairman O'Rourke Sr. affirmed. "We've said that because we are in charge of our destiny. We will never concede our rights or governing authority to the state over our waters."
Tribal members will gather, regardless of Commission decision
Tribal members at the meeting indicated that they would continue to gather as indigenous people have done for thousands of years, regardless of the Commission's decision.
"Even if traditional gathering is banned, we will still continue to gather," said Georgiana Myers, Yurok Tribal member, during the public comment period prior to the Commission vote.
To protest proposed restrictions on coastal gathering proposed under the MLPA Initiative, members of the Yurok, Hoopa Valley, Karuk and other Tribes before the meeting on Saturday, June 18 gathered seaweed, mussels and clams at three beaches on the North Coast.
"Our message is 'Don't mussel us out,'" said Dania Rose Colegrove, Hoopa Tribal Citizen and organizer for the Coastal Justice Coalition. "We're here to stay - we've been gathering here for thousands of years."
She pointed out the hypocrisy of the MLPA's "marine protected areas" restricting tribal gathering and fishing, while doing nothing to stop ocean industrialists from destroying the marine ecosystem.
"How is it that the MLPA doesn't protect the ocean from big oil, wave energy projects, water pollution, military testing and all of the people who want to mess up the ocean, the people with big money," Colegrove emphasized. "Now the North Coast has been opened up to military testing by the Navy."
For more information about Tribal resistance to the MLPA Initiative, go to: http://www.klamathjustice.blogspot.com.
Commissioners voice concerns with MLPA Initiative
Two Fish and Game Commissioners expressed their concerns with the MLPA "preferred alternative" and the controversial process in general.
Commissioner Richards, the one Commissioner who voted against the MLPA plan, responded to DFG Director John McCamman's statement that the cost of enforcement of the MLPA coastwide would be a "a range from $9 million to $43 million."
"I have one thing to interject here," he stated. "If any organization I ever had anything to do with turned in a business plan, and said their budget was somewhere between $200,000, and $4.6 million, I would say, "YOU'RE FIRED!"
In spite of voting for the "preferred alternative," Kellogg declared, "I'm for Option Zero. Things are fine the way they are."
A broad coalition, ranging from fishing industry representatives to environmental groups, from county governments to Native American governments, supports the decriminalization of the traditional tribal harvest of coastal resources. Representatives of fishing groups, environmental organizations and Tribes from throughout Northern California spoke in support of protecting traditional tribal gathering and the proposal by the Northern California Tribal Chairmen's Association during the meeting's public comment period.
The "preferred alternative," along with two alternatives including "Option Zero," will now undergo review under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). The Commission is planning to adopt the final plan for North Coast marine protected areas in early 2012.
This option, as approved by the Fish and Game Commission, will be reviewed during an environmental impact study over the next several months. If the commission approves the findings of the study, the newest Marine Protected Areas will be established on the North Coast.
Commission chooses October 1 as effective date for South Coast MPAs
The Commission, in another controversial 4 to 1 vote the same day, chose Oct. 1, 2011 as the "effective date" for implementation of the marine protected areas in Southern California under the MLPA Initiative.
On Dec. 15, 2010 the Commission adopted regulations to create a network of "marine protected areas" (MPAs) in the South Coast study region. This network of 49 MPAs and three special closures covers approximately 354 square miles of state waters and represents approximately 15 percent of the region.
"The regulatory package is being prepared for the Office of Administrative Law (OAL) and the date selected allows time for OAL review and approval, finalizing the lawmaking process," stated Jordan Traverso, DFG spokesperson.
A coalition of fishing groups opposed the selection of the October 1 date, noting that "process of developing Marine Protected Areas in the South Coast study area was significantly flawed."
"The Commission acted without the required statutory authority to act," said George Osborn, spokesman for the Partnership for Sustainable Oceans (PSO). "It violated the Coastal Act and it violated the California Environmental Quality Act. The process mandated by the MLPA was subverted by the MLPA 'Initiative' and by the creation and actions of the BRTF."
Osborn emphasized that public records "clearly demonstrate that members of the the BRTF engaged in private meetings not open to the public or noticed to the public, in which policy matters were discussed and decided upon before the so-called 'public' meetings of the BRTF. We believe the process was illegal and violates California statutes. The MLPAI was anything but 'open and transparent as is so often proclaimed."
United Anglers of Southern California, the Coastside Fishing Club and Bob Fletcher are engaged in multi-tiered litigation in San Diego Superior Court challenging the legality of the MLPA Initiative. To date, they have won three court victories in a row.
Saturday, June 18, 2011
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Tribes Express Coastal Gathering Rights
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Tribes express coastal gathering rights in ancestral territory
Tribal members will meet at several locations on Saturday to practice traditional harvest
Armed with only tribal identification cards, Native Americans from Tolowa Country to the Wiyot Nation will be assembling on culturally critical beaches Saturday to harvest marine resources.
"We don't perceive traditional tribal gathering of ocean resources to be some kind of delinquent activity, but the state and feds do," said Yurok Tribal Heritage Preservation Officer, Bob McConnell. "We harvest from the ocean for our ceremonies and physical health. It is time to decriminalize our culture."
"The Tribe's rights are nonnegotiable," added Yurok Chairman Thomas O'Rourke Sr. "As long as we are here, we will continue to gather in culturally appropriate way that is beneficial to all species."
State parks and national marine reserves and parks do disproportionate and unjustifiable harm to California's indigenous people who need access to marine resources in order to perpetuate complex spiritual practices and life ways.
"Our methods of take enhance these resources rather than harm them. We offer as evidence the abundance of coastal resources prior to European contact," McConnell said. "Prayer is an integral part of the process as no life can be taken without acknowledgement of that life. We thank the creator and the plant/animal for that life each and every time we gather a resource."
Decades have passed and public perceptions about Native Americans have changed since most of the rules that govern California's coast were signed into law.
"These government bodies have made criminals out of people for embracing their culture. We want the people of California to know that and join us in the process of reversing it," McConnell concluded.
Tribal members are encouraged to gather at their favorite spot. There will be tribal members at Patrick's Point State Park at 5:30 a.m., Clam Beach at 7:30 a.m. and Wilson Creek Beach near Klamath at 8:30 a.m..
Contact Matt Mais
Yurok Tribe
(707) 482-1350 ext. 306
Tribes express coastal gathering rights in ancestral territory
Tribal members will meet at several locations on Saturday to practice traditional harvest
Armed with only tribal identification cards, Native Americans from Tolowa Country to the Wiyot Nation will be assembling on culturally critical beaches Saturday to harvest marine resources.
"We don't perceive traditional tribal gathering of ocean resources to be some kind of delinquent activity, but the state and feds do," said Yurok Tribal Heritage Preservation Officer, Bob McConnell. "We harvest from the ocean for our ceremonies and physical health. It is time to decriminalize our culture."
"The Tribe's rights are nonnegotiable," added Yurok Chairman Thomas O'Rourke Sr. "As long as we are here, we will continue to gather in culturally appropriate way that is beneficial to all species."
State parks and national marine reserves and parks do disproportionate and unjustifiable harm to California's indigenous people who need access to marine resources in order to perpetuate complex spiritual practices and life ways.
"Our methods of take enhance these resources rather than harm them. We offer as evidence the abundance of coastal resources prior to European contact," McConnell said. "Prayer is an integral part of the process as no life can be taken without acknowledgement of that life. We thank the creator and the plant/animal for that life each and every time we gather a resource."
Decades have passed and public perceptions about Native Americans have changed since most of the rules that govern California's coast were signed into law.
"These government bodies have made criminals out of people for embracing their culture. We want the people of California to know that and join us in the process of reversing it," McConnell concluded.
Tribal members are encouraged to gather at their favorite spot. There will be tribal members at Patrick's Point State Park at 5:30 a.m., Clam Beach at 7:30 a.m. and Wilson Creek Beach near Klamath at 8:30 a.m..
Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Assert Your Native Gathering Rights!
Saturday, June 18 · 5:30am - 8:30am
Your gathering place or Patrick's Point 5:30am, Clam Beach 7:30am, Wilson Crk near Klamath 8:30am
This Saturday, the Klamath and Coastal Justice Coalitions are calling on all members of local tribes to gather coastal resources at their traditional gathering places. Members of the Justice Coalitions will be harvesting coastal resources at Patrick's Point State Park at 5:30 am, Clam Beach at 7:30 am and Wilson Creek Beach near Klamath at 8:30 am.
"It is our sovereign and sacred right to harvest coastal resources according to ...our customs. We will no longer allow the state or the feds to criminalize our culture." said Hoopa Tribal Citizen Dania Rose Colegrove, an organizer for the Klamath Justice Coalition.
Local Tribes use hundreds of coastal resources for ceremonial regalia, medicine and for subsistence. Under the proposed Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), tribal citizens face fines and potential incarceration for harvesting for traditional purposes in a culturally appropriate way. Regulations against indigenous people in state parks, federal marine reserves and the proposed MLPA areas are an unacceptable and outdated threat to native sovereignty and culture.
The Klamath and Coastal Justice Coalitions are native alliances formed with the aim of protecting tribal rights. The KJC played a large role in pushing forward the removal of four dams on the Klamath River and is currently working to ensure California's Marine Life Protection Act honors tribal sovereignty.
Friday, June 10, 2011
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What to do if you are stopped by the police
There are 3 distinct categories of police interference with a citizen's liberties: Conversation, Detention and Arrest. It is important to identify your situation so you know your rights, and, remember, anything you say can and will be used against you! Stay calm and in control of your words and actions at all times.
• Mere Conversation - LEVEL 1
Police officers have the same right as any other citizen to approach you and inquire about circumstances of interest. However, absent any reasonable suspicion that you are involved in criminal activity, an officer cannot detain you.
You do not have to provide identification to an officer at this level unless you are in a motor vehicle.
You do not have to answer any questions.
Determine if you are in a Level 1 situation by asking if you are free to leave.
• Detention - LEVEL 2
If an officer reasonably suspects you have been involved in a crime, they may detain you for questioning. You may invoke your 5th amendment rights and remain silent. You must provide identification upon request at this level (name, address, d.o.b.). You do not need to provide your social security number.
Giving a false name is a criminal offense.
You do not have to consent to a search.
However, if the police have probable cause or a warrant your consent is not required.
If the police say they have a warrant, ask to see it.
Police may pat down your clothing if they have a reasonable suspicion that you are carrying a concealed weapon; do not physically resist but make it clear that you do not consent to any further search.
What you choose to say to the police is important—it can be used against you later and can provide the police with probable cause to arrest you.
Don't run away even if you believe what is happening to you is unreasonable or unlawful; this may lead to your arrest.
Remember officers names and badge numbers and write down everything about the incident as soon as possible.
• Arrest - LEVEL 3
You have the right to remain silent—wait for your attorney before saying anything.
Ask for an attorney immediately upon being taken into custody.
If you refuse to provide a name and address while in custody, you will not be eligible for release or a court appointed attorney in most circumstances.
Within a reasonable time, the police must allow you to make a phone call to your attorney and they may not legally listen to that call—but assume that they will.
Do not talk to fellow arrestees regarding the circumstances of the arrest—you never know who might be listening.
You must be provided adequate medical care while in custody. If you are on medication, inform the jail of that fact immediately and repeatedly.
If you have dietary restrictions for health or religious reasons, the jail may be required to provide you with alternative meals. Inform the jail of your dietary needs as soon as you arrive. If the jail fails to accommodate those needs, begin the grievance process immediately.
What Happens Next?
Take photographs of any injuries right away. Get medical attention and copies of the medical reports.
Either while in custody, or shortly upon your release, you will be required to appear in court for an arraignment hearing.
Plead NOT GUILTY to all charges. Apply for a court appointed attorney if you so choose. You will receive a future court date to appear.
Make contact with your attorney as soon as possible. It is your responsibility to remain in contact with your attorney, this may be frustrating, but will be essential to your defense!
If you remain in custody, you have a right to a jury trial within 60 days in Oregon, or within 30 days in California.
If you choose to go to trial, it may be your responsibility to locate and secure witnesses on your behalf.
If you are found guilty at trial, or elect to plead guilty, you are allowed to delay sentencing at least 48 hours. At the sentencing hearing, you may be ordered to serve jail time, so be prepared to report to jail immediately.
Friday, March 25, 2011
April 1, 2011 - Speak for the Klamath Benefit!
April 1st 2011
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Wednesday, December 8, 2010
MLPA Attempts to Ban Traditional Tribal Gathering along North Coast by Dan Bacher
A panel appointed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to implement his controversial Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative will consider amending a motion that will, in effect, ban traditional harvesting by Indian Tribes until the legal authority to regulate the Tribal uses is clarified by the State of California and California Tribes.
This amendment will be discussed at Schwarzenegger's Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) meeting this Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 10 am via teleconference. BTRF members will be distributed between locations in Crescent City, Eureka, and Fort Bragg, in a thinly-veiled attempt to prevent a unified protest by tribes, fishermen and environmental activists.
"The MLPA is trying to ban any and all gathering along our coastline, including NO TRADITIONAL gathering whatsoever, in marine protected areas," said Georgiana Myers, organizer of the Klamath Justice Coalition and Yurok Tribal member. "I urge people to speak out against this insane idea of taking away what is not theirs to take!"
Yurok Tribal representatives and other North Coast Tribes expressed strong opposition to the original motion four, the "Enhanced Compliance Alternative," by Gregory F. Schem, at the October 25-26, Blue Ribbon Task Force, (BRTF) meeting in Fortuna. They did so on the specific grounds that once the BRTF started changing the unified proposal, "it would be an invitation to make further changes," according to a draft letter to BRTF Chair Cindy Gustafson by Thomas O'Rourke, chairman of the Yurok Tribal Council.
The unified proposal, developed by Tribal, fishing and environmental stakeholders in a long and grueling process, included the recognition of traditional Tribal subsistence and ceremonial uses in a process that has been characterized by conflicts of interests, institutional racism, and the violation of numerous state, federal and international laws.
This recognition was only made possible under the pressure of non-violent direct action in Fort Bragg on July 21, when over 300 people including members of 50 Indian Nations, recreational anglers, commercial fishermen, environmentalists, and immigrant seafood workers peacefully took over the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force meeting to protest the MLPA's violation of Tribal rights.
Schem claimed in a letter to Gustafson on November 16, "After initially reviewing the two documents I went back to the October 26 video and reviewed the deliberations, as the language staff developed does not appear to capture the intent of my motion for the North Coast Enhanced Compliance Alternative MPA Proposal. My intent was to provide to the California Fish and Game Commission an alternative MPA proposal that came closer to meeting the science guidelines to ensure that the statewide system of MPAs would help achieve the goals of the MLPA."
Many feared that the task force, dominated by oil industry, real estate, marina development and other special interests, would renege on the unified proposal – and they apparently have done this by convening this meeting to amend the proposal.
"Our worst fears have already been realized," said O'Rourke. "The proposed additional motion for BRTF consideration is: 'only include proposed allowed uses with a moderate-high or high level of protection for any MPA…all proposed uses with a moderate moderate-low or low level of protection would not be included.'"
"Almost all of the Native American traditional subsistence gathering species have been characterized as moderate or less in the level of protection," said O'Rourke. "The net result of the motion and clarification would be the IMMEDIATE TERMINATION of Native American marine harvesting rights. The Yurok Tribe notes that you cannot fairly characterize yourself as being a supporter of Tribal Rights when your first action is to immediately terminate those Native American rights."
"The Regional Stakeholders Group, (RSG) and Unified Proposal was a unique effort that brought consensus among all stakeholders of the North Coast Group. Such a consensus has not been achieved in any other MLPA Group area. The RSG made it very clear that they wanted a ribbon to provide for Native American harvesting. To the extent that also required recreational uses they were still in support of allowing both uses while the legislature was deliberating," he stated.
O'Rourke noted that throughout the process the Stakeholders Group was concerned that their nearly unanimous view was not always being properly or strongly enough portrayed to the task force. With its letter, the Yurok Tribe is including a petition signed by 28 members of the RSG. The purpose of the petition was to make sure Native American uses would be continued throughout the MLPA process.
"The Unified proposal and Native American subsistence rights were supported by an amazing 31 public entities in Mendocino, Humboldt, and Del Norte Counties," said O'Rourke. "Clearly, the proposed amendment completely changes the Unified proposal. It is ironic that there was so much praise for the North Coast Stakeholders coming up with a Unified proposal and so little adherence is now being proposed. Others areas of the State will no doubt conclude there is little value in working together to come up with a common proposal that can so easily be cast aside."
O'Rourke said the California Fish and Game Commission has provided for a "regulatory avoidance ribbon" for both Native American and recreational uses in other MLPA regions. For example, the Commission approved a proposal to amend subsection 632 (b) (11) Title 14 CCR Re Stewarts Point Marine Reserve to allow for Tribal and recreational use at the June 24, 2010 and September 16, 2010 Commission meetings. However, this was only done under the pressure of a historic Kashia Pomo blessing ceremony that was held at Stewarts Point (Danaka) on April 30, the day before this sacred site was scheduled for permanent closure.
"After all the testimony and input from Native Americans and the support of thirty one North Group area governmental entities, the Yurok Tribe is frankly shocked that the proposed motion recommends that the North Group area have greater restrictions against Native American subsistence harvesting than has occurred anywhere else under the MLPA process," said O'Rourke. "We believe a compelling case has been made about the number and strength of Tribes in the North Group Area and that a wise public policy would include Tribes as part of the management solution at all stages of the process."
"To come out with an interim policy so strong against the Tribal uses is worse than if you had stated nothing. When the California Fish and Game Commission considers Native American and recreational users avoidance, as in the Central Coast Region, the Commission will have to do so against expressed opposition by the BRTF. Such specific and express opposition to Native American avoidance has not existed in any other MLPA," O'Rourke continued.
The Yurok Tribe requests the following substitute motion be adopted: "The BRTF intends that Native American and recreational uses be continued in all North Coast Region MLPA designations until such time as the California legislature allows for separate Native American subsistence marine gathering."
The MLPA's panel's attempt to terminate Tribal gathering rights is a clear violation of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act and the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.
Article 32, Section 2, of the Declaration mandates "free prior and informed consent" in consultation with the indigenous population affected by a state action (http://www.iwgia.org/sw248.asp). The amendment also violates Article 26, Section 3, that declares, "States shall give legal recognition and protection to these lands, territories and resources. Such recognition shall be conducted with due respect to the customs, traditions and land tenure systems of the indigenous peoples concerned."
The Yurok, Tolowa, Kashia Pomo, Cahto and other North Coast Tribes have harvested seaweed, mussels, abalone and other marine life in a sustainable manner for thousands of years in the inter-tidal zones of the North Coast. There is no evidence whatsover that this traditional activity has "depleted" any species to warrant closures.
Recreational anglers, commercial fishermen, seaweed harvesters and grassroots environmentalists are all appalled by the MLPA's attempt to renege on the unified proposal and the protection of tribal rights. Jim Martin, West Coast Regional Director of the Recreational Fishing Alliance, said, "Schem's amendment is outrageous. I have no idea what he is thinking. This amendment circumvents the local process."
Schem, the sponsor of the controversial motion that would in effect ban tribal gathering, is no stranger to charges of conflicts of interest under the MLPA Initiative. During a Fish and Game Commission meeting earlier this year, Bob Fletcher, former Deputy Director of the DFG, claimed there was evidence that two members of the South Coast MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, Bill Anderson and Greg Schem, agreed "to sign off on everything else" in return for not putting a reserve in an area where both had marinas and business interests, according to Jim Matthews of http://www.OutdoorNewsService.com.
Schem and Anderson, both appointed by Schwarzenegger, are strange choices for "marine guardians" Gregory F. Schem is president and chief executive officer of Harbor Real Estate Group, specializing in marina and waterfront real estate investments, including a marina, fuel dock, and boat yard in Marina del Rey, in addition to other California assets. William (Bill) Anderson has been president and chief operating officer of Westrec Marinas since 1989. Westrec Marinas is the nation's largest owner and operator of waterfront marinas.
Fletcher, the Partnership for Sustainable Oceans and United Anglers of Southern California are pursuing multi-layered litigation against the MLPA Initiative. On October 1, a Superior Court Judge in Sacramento issued a ruling confirming that two panels overseeing the MLPA Initiative must comply with the California Public Records Act. Judge Patrick Marlette ruled that the Marine Life Protection Act Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) and Master Plan Team (MPT) are state agencies and are therefore compelled by California's Public Records Act to share information with representatives of angling/conservation organizations working to protect recreational ocean access.
The unified proposal, including any amendments to the "enhanced compliance alternative, will be presented to the Fish and Game Commission on February 2, 2011, after Governor-Elect Jerry Brown takes office.
Georgiana Myers is urging everybody concerned about environmental justice and the protection of Tribal rights to show up at the teleconference locations on Thursday, December 9, at 10 a.m. to speak out in opposition to the task force's attempt to terminate Tribal rights. The locations are:
Flynn Center
981 H Street
Crescent City, CA 95531
Red Lion Hotel
1929 Fourth Street
Eureka, CA 95501
C.V. Starr Community Center
300 South Lincoln Street
Fort Bragg, CA 95437
Please see the meeting agenda and the briefing documents at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_120910.asp.
For more information about the Coastal Justice Coalition and Klamath Justice Coalition, contact:
Georgiana Myers, Coastal Justice Coalition: (707) 951-5548, sregonlady [at] yahoo.com
Frankie Myers, Klamath Justice Coalition: (707) 951-5052
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"I have something to prove to the Sabres and Vancouver," Kassian said today in Rogers Arena. "As a young player in this league, you have to make a name for yourself."
Kassian was shocked to be part of General Manager Darcy Regier's deal that brought center Cody Hodgson to Buffalo.
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I don't know about that. can he really make 205. what really bothers me is why did he have a talk with dana about IF he loses. Is he losing confidence? where did you hear this? If this is true I also will lose confidence in him. but on the positive side, at least he sees sylvia as a threat and is being humble about it and he might be cautious enough to win this time. I'm not counting either of them out though.
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I personally believe arlovski could totally dominate the lhw division, including lidell.he's to strong and quick for most.
Im with you. What I dont uderstand is AA should get a title shot rite off the bat, who really wants to see Chuck beat up guys he allready has before, so let me guess Tito vs Chuck2, Chuckvs Horn3, Sobral vs Chuck3( if Chuck were to loose). AA would run it if went down.
That big goofy bastard is turning into a friggin monster. Hes in better shape every fight and hes getting sharper too. He's no joke, if he gets in the kind of shape these other guys do.I mean REAL good shape. He's gonna keep knockin mofos out. He's not exactly my type of fight either, but he is for real.
yeah, as someone else stated earlier, even if Andrei loses again, he is still by far the second-best heavyweight in UFC. He just has to bide his time until Timmy starts dippin into the roids again, and then clean out the rest of the division. But he won't lose, so this is all pointless theorizing.
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He could shave. There's five pounds.
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He could shave. There's five pounds.
The only way Arlovski makes 205 is if he spends some time in a concentration camp.
AA is extremely lean at 240-250. I agree with the above posts. If he lost 30 or more pounds alot of that is going to be in muscle. It would be interesting to see but its not gonna happen.
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A Somerset man accused of producing, possessing and receiving child pornography pleaded guilty this week to some of those charges in federal court.
Eric Whitson, 35, appeared in U.S. District Court on Tuesday for a re-arraignment on two of the four child pornography charges that had been handed down by a grand jury in December.
Whitson pleaded guilty to one count of producing child pornography and one count of possession of child pornography. He had also been charged with two counts of receiving child pornography. The U.S. has moved to dismiss the receipt of child porn charges, according to court documents accessed electronically by the Commonwealth Journal.
Whitson was arrested on November 21 by Somerset Police Department detectives and agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation at his home on Cooper Drive in Somerset.
Authorities were carrying out a federal arrest warrant based on evidence of child pornography found on items taken from Whitson's home during a search. The arrest came after a two-week joint investigation conducted by SPD and the FBI, which began on November 5 after SPD received a complaint from an alleged adult victim who stated he'd discovered a camera in Whitson's bathroom.
An affidavit filed by a federal investigator states that the hidden camera allegedly discovered by the victim — and later obtained by authorities — was allegedly placed in a position where a person could be captured from the waist down. The affidavit states that the recording "could also be viewed in real time from Whitson's bedroom on a monitor." Authorities allegedly found a videotaped recording of a 16-year-old male who used the bathroom in Whitson's home, along with a recording of the victim who made the original complaint.
Along with the recording device, SPD also obtained through a second search warrant computers and multiple forms of digital storage. SPD officers and detectives "searched through hours of VHS tapes, DVDs, and CD-ROMs and found images suspected to be child pornography," according to Lt. Shannon Smith, with SPD.
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At the start of the offseason, QB Carson Palmer told the Bengals he wanted a trade, and if he wasn't granted that, he would retire. On Tuesday, Bengals owner Mike Brown told reporters the team has no intention of trading their quarterback.
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