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Rove: We Need More Rand Pauls and Fewer Christine O'Donnells
On one hand, he's clearly right. On the other hand, do we trust Karl Rove to be able to tell which future candidates will be Rand Pauls, and which will be Christine O'Donnells?
On one hand, he's clearly right. On the other hand, do we trust Karl Rove to be able to tell which future candidates will be Rand Pauls, and which will be Christine O'Donnells?
Todd Akins are exponentially worse than your garden variety witch I thinkhappysalazar (acd614) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:58 am
oops that was me
good morninghappyfeet (acd614) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:58 am
He is clever to make this comparison.
do we trust Karl Rove to be able to tell which future candidates will be Rand Pauls, and which will be Christine O'Donnells?
No, but it shouldn't be hard. If we stop playing games here, all we need to do is look for a real record of votes and leadership on controversies, to see who is strong and has leadership ability and conservative principles.
Did the politician ban guns, or balance budgets? If they haven't done either, then those who have are more qualified. Our politics experts don't prefer this method because it eliminates the game and mystery, and also their power, which is based on 'electability'. We have been preferring electability to accomplishments for so long. The result is we lose elections. It's surreal.Dustin (73fead) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:00 am
Rove opposed both, he was for Grayson and Castle,
his track record this fall, what was the worst NFL team,
A few considerations:
1. FreedomWorks met with Rove before hardening their hearts on the way to sometime witch/prostitute reprising her run of two years prior.
2. Rove selected Mike Castle, career tick rejected by circa 54% of primary voters.
3. Rove had zero to do with the election of Paul over McConnell's choice in KY.
4. Akin was the least popular of three frontrunners in MO among Tea Partiers behind Brunner and Steelman.
5. Roughly 70%(I'd look it up but I'm short) of Crossroads supported candidates lost in 2012.
6. Rove is arguably more at fault than W. for our current enmiring with the Steaming Pile of the US.
7. Real genius does not require our believing it so that it be borne out. That is better termed a 'confidence game'. Remind one of another?gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:24 am
A lot depends on where the candidate is running. Paul might not have been able to win in relatively liberal Delaware, O'Donnell might have been able to win in relatively more conservative Kentucky.
I'll admit I'm stumped as to how GOP candidates lost in states that Romney carried.steve (369bc6) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:26 am
to the extent Rove wants to make the world safe for douchebags like Dick Lugar this is bad
to the extent Rove wants to make the world safe from douchebags like Richard Mourdock this is good
and even though his record suggests that he's simply too inept to be the man for this job people are willing to shovel obscene amounts of money at him, which suggests there's a substantial market for what he's sellinghappyfeet (acd614) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:38 am
In Western states, libertarian candidates, split the vote in at least Montana and N. Dakota,narciso (3fec35) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:39 am
Rove is an idiot – one of the most overrated political advisers of all time. And so, I do not trust him to "be able to tell which future candidates will be Rand Pauls, and which will be Christine O'Donnells".
On the other hand, I don't really trust anyone else either. Certainly not the GOP primary voters.A.S. (23bc66) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:49 am
everything you just said is not correct. The problem I have with the "people" at the top of the tea party organizations not the millions who are fed up but those who want to be the next rove is that they are:
F@cking Liars, pure and simple.
Todd Akin got there because the tea party supported a candidate even worse than him shoving out the vote for two other very qualified candidates.
First Rubio was never a Tea PArty member and neither was Scott Brown, thoe people were coached and funded by Rove and people like Rove who agree.
Johnson from Wisconsin also was not never was Tea Party – Tea PArty claimed him supported him, he thanked them he praised them but he wasnt picked by them, funded by them, he was just an ordinary person with an extrordinary gift.
Gary, these "Tea Party" candidates are not worthy of you and the massess of concerned Tea Party sympathizers, they are also rans who have been soundly rejected before who are falsely embracing a standard by spouting the right buzz words at the right time, like germany in the 20'sEPWJ (1cedce) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:02 am
And before the flaring starts no Tea Party "organizers/leaders" people are not Nazi's, but they are using the same Huey Long, FDR, Goebbels tactics of claiming, dividing, by these divisive, disengenious, extreme but subjective purity tests, and general just outright Michelle Malkin/Palin style name calling.
Candidates these people dont like they call "crony capitalists" "old boy network" "insiders" "establishment" – me what have they done – nothing thats right nothing.
But alot of socialist/facist/elistist name calling. And they damn well know the people they are trashing are good people, people on their side.EPWJ (1cedce) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:09 am
Let's remember they get rewarded for edited taping;
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/204551/austin-tice-david-corn-win-polk-awards/narciso (3fec35) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:12 am
"…and general just outright Michelle Malkin/Palin style name calling."
pot, kettle, black, some assembly required.redc1c4 (403dff) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:31 am
We need more politicians with integrity, intelligence and honesty and fewer has been washed up loser political advisors who should maybe think about retiring before they wind up wearing a tar and feather suit.Jcw46 (f33482) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:35 am
I misspoke earlier when I said " If they haven't done either, then those who have are more qualified. "
That's actually the core of the controversy. Was O'Donnell more qualified as someone who had never accomplished anything on policy than someone who had gone the wrong way on policy?
That's a tough call, and most of those who supported O'Donnell realized there was a huge risk of her being a flake, but also said they felt this was better than the sure risk of Castle being too moderate or 'progressive' (I hate our orwellian label system).
I came to this conclusion after that episode, but I think a lot of us are taking the risks in order to send a message to the GOP, the established politicians, the pundits: we will chose anybody over Republicans who go along with current ruinous policies of spending and government intrusion.
That O'Donnell was a striking example of rejecting a 'RINO' wasn't a bug.Dustin (73fead) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:36 am
Before we go too far in the current sport of Rove-bashing, it would behoove all of us to remember that Karl Rove knew how to get conservative voters to the polls. Romney's people had no clue, and that's a major reason why we are going to suffer through four more years of Obama.JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:20 am
10. PeeWee, your output is, shall we say, uneven.
""people" at the top of the tea party organizations"
Let it be agreed that 'leaderless grassroots nmovements' both attract carpetbaggers like Rove, Armey(who brought a gun to work the week of his denouement), etc., and self-appointed representatives of the hoi polloi who may bring value but are as unreliable as the cats they herd.
Michele Bachmann might be strained gnat of the latter(her excesses are greatly exaggerated).
"everything you just said is not correct"
Then perhaps you'd care to address an item or two with which you take exception.
Todd Akin got the whole of the f*ckwit vote, a smattering of baggers who in the main were divided by Brunner and Steelman whom you do not describe.
Johnson, indeed, is as you describe. Your point, however, escapes me.
Scott Brown, meh. Rubio, you'd better give us a timeline Squirrel Cache. Rubio came out of nowhere to crush Crist's hopes. If Rove ended on board it wasn't courage that brought him.
Cruz, Paul, et alia, owe Baggers plenty and admit same within recent weeks. Currently they are the only Senators worth their salt.
Now, take a few deep breaths, perhaps you can find a reasoned cause to emote.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:20 am
Rove was part of an administration that could have and should have gotten spending under control. They could have and should have gotten some kind of voter integrity reform through.
They are the reason the GOP has no credibility on balancing the budget. They were smarter than the Romney campaign, I will grant, but they are the weight that ultimately broke the GOP.
They were only 150 billion away from a balanced budget at times. Imagine if they had cut spending and kept the budget balanced! Eventually the democrats would have won power and undone the progress, but then the American people would have a choice between driving away from the cliff or driving over the cliff. Right now they have choices over how fast to drive over the cliff, and it's just not enough to beat the moochers.Dustin (73fead) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:23 am
"[no] Tea Party "organizers/leaders" people are not Nazi's, but they are using the same Huey Long, FDR, Goebbels tactics of claiming, dividing, by these divisive, disengenious, extreme but subjective purity tests, and general just outright Michelle Malkin/Palin style name calling."
Personally, I do not proof what I write, and no doubt, it shows. This sentence, its burden of implication, is just grist for the mill.
Rather than take up its problems, how's about you just re-write it and we'll forget the offense(s).gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:37 am
I don't want Karl Rove picking candidates any more than I want Pelosi picking them. How about we run peole with principles, someone that can communicate said principles, and doesn't think that the Constitution is subject to reasoned debate and compromise, or scared that if they don't play nice, the MFM might not be fair to them.JD (b63a52) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:39 am
This is hilarious.Jamie (029f5e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:40 am
20. Second.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:43 am
18. Dustin, agree. When nothing was vetoed by Bush, it was all over.mg (31009b) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:44 am
21. You're welcome. "There but for the grace of God go I".gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:46 am
Rove treated Col. West like an uncle tom in the Col's. recount.
Karl would be choice No.1 for the tar pot.
14. Like Woodward said at Corpulent's shoulder: "Some people will just never go away".gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:51 am
"And before the flaring starts no Tea Party "organizers/leaders" people are not Nazi's, but they are using the same Huey Long, FDR, Goebbels tactics of claiming, dividing, by these divisive, disengenious, extreme but subjective purity tests, and general just outright Michelle Malkin/Palin style name calling."
EPWJ – As usual, the spittle flecked name calling seems to be coming from you as reflected through the invocation of the names in your comment above. Control yourself, cowboy.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/19/2013 @ 10:02 am
I have an idea. Let Rove help the Democrap candidates!PCD (1d8b6d) — 2/19/2013 @ 10:34 am
20, JD, I'd run, but I don't have enough ammunition for my guns.PCD (1d8b6d) — 2/19/2013 @ 10:36 am
His conclusion is correct (FTMP), but I don't trust his judgement.askeptic (b8ab92) — 2/19/2013 @ 10:58 am
Please help me, I can't find any listing for the National TEA Party, and their National Leaders, or affiliates.
Do they have a national central committee like the Dems, and GOP?
Do they have a National Chairman?
Uh…No, we don't. We don't trust a single f#@king thing that comes out of Rove's fat pie hole. He's just trying to make nice with the Tea Party because every conservative in the country is running from him like the Hanta virus.
And if there is any justice in this world, he will have a stroke in the middle of a debate on Fox News in front of the whole nation. That way, we'll have proof and hundreds of youtube videos for posterity.Bets (bfca75) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:24 am
Every mother's son has good points and bad. Moreover, we're all going to answer for them, and I for one don't expect it to go well.
That said the GOP that includes Rove, Colin and Condoleezza needs to do less listening and more telling.
You pay the bills and frankly only one of these three has sh*t worth buying.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:32 am
rove's heart's in the right place
Team R has had a dickens of a time coming up with serious candidates lately
Plus it's kinda cute how he thinks the republican brand can be salvaged.happyfeet (4bf7c2) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:33 am
34. As the wife says 'my promises aren't worth diddly squat'–actually she doesn't put it that way but I past listening when she gets that far.
Anyway, if Jebbie is your GOP nominee, after a really serious vetting, and say Luap Danr is the Libertarian, you don't need my promise to figure which way I'll flop.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:38 am
Never forget the GOP establishment gave us Dede Scozzafava. Let them pick the candidates and they'll keep right on doing the same things they always do, following the same procedures, kissing the same asses, and yet expecting different results – and blaming the TEA Party, or Sarah Palin's bouncing baby boy.ropelight (917ca4) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:43 am
rove's heart beats only for himself.
and the repercussions have been devastating.
I think Rove's comment fails to miss the point that IN GENERAL it is important to move the party right, not left, and if electing a few Chris O'Donnell's it he cost so be it.
Only way to move the debate terms right, is to get people talking right (not left).Rodney King's Spirit (951136) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:06 pm
What this country needs are more Dr. Carsons, and many fewer Rosie O'Donnells.PCD (1d8b6d) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:09 pm
re #18
Imagine if they had cut spending and kept the budget balanced! Eventually the democrats would have won power and undone the progress…
Imagine indeed. Of course, they inherited a balanced budget from Democrats and immediately trashed it, but just because the second sentence requires as much imagination as the first doesn't mean the first one ain't valid.
I mean, in the recent campaign where the Republicans idea of budget cutting was to increase defense spending, provide another tax cut for wealthier people (taking their presidential candidate's tax rate to 0%), and balance the budget in Ryan's estimate in 28 years, one wonders where Dustin would get the idea that republicans were ever responsible for the budget.
Then again, that's why I vote LibertarianGeorgeJulian (b1153c) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:15 pm
Make Post-Partum Abortion legal.askeptic (b8ab92) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:30 pm
40. Now we're talking!gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:32 pm
16. Before we go too far in the current sport of Rove-bashing, it would behoove all of us to remember that Karl Rove knew how to get conservative voters to the polls. Romney's people had no clue, and that's a major reason why we are going to suffer through four more years of Obama.
Comment by JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:20 am
I have to disagree. Rove engineered some mighty slim victories, that's about it. His best showing was in 2004 when he eked out a win with 50.7% of the vote.
Rove is apparently proud of "no child left behind." He writes in his book Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight that he believes that's what put Bush over the top.
He does his usual analysis of the data of how that polled. The same kind of analysis that made him 100% wrong on election night.
There's nothing conservative about big government programs, but Rove believes in "compassionate conservatism." Which is really liberalism.
He represents all that's wrong with the GOP. Starting with giving the back of his hand to conservatives, who apparently are not in his view compassionate.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed being called a racist for opposing Bush and McCain's amnesty program. Then there was Medicare part D.
If Rove was "the architect" behind this then he was responsible for heading in the entirely wrong direction. And there's something wrong with his OODA loop that convinces him he's right. There were times during the Bush presidency when I wouldn't have objected very strongly if the Democrats had tried to impeach him, so dismaying was he at times.
That's not the way to get conservatives to the polls.Steve57 (60a887) — 2/19/2013 @ 12:49 pm
We need more Rand Pauls and fewer Christine O'Donnells
this is sexist and I would decry it in the starkest of terms
except for Christine is as nutty a hoo as you're likely to find in the lower 48happyfeet (4bf7c2) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:10 pm
OK look: I am not trying to pick a fight here, but let me point out that it is pretty common when those of us on the right face hard times and a strong challenge to our beliefs for us to form a circular firing squad and start talking about which heretic conservatives/Republicans we are going to drum right out of the party or movement. I saw this after the Presidential elections in 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012, and after the midterms in 1998 (after we failed to make gains during the Clinton impeachment) and 2006. At best, it forces us to recalibrate the message and revamp our principles; at worst, it makes us look panicky and bitter.
I'm not happy with the way the Bush Administration turned out, but is was a damn sight better than an Al Gore Administration or a John Kerry Administration would have been, and it is a whole lot eff'in better than the Barack Obama Administration has been. I have been reading Amity Shales' new biography of Calvin Coolidge and I would love nothing more than to get another Silent Cal back in the White House, but it is pretty clear that the Coolidges and the Reagans don't come along all that often, and even if they did it takes a measure of luck for them to make it all the way to the top.
My message is that we need to stop the infighting. The establishment needs to quit sniping at the Tea Party and the Tea Party needs to quit acting like the establishment has nothing to offer. Let's acknowledge that some of our favorite conservatives are going to disappoint us on some issues: Rubio on immigration, Christie on federal disaster help, Jindal on the culture war, and so on. Let's agree to not only search for the most principled candidates, but also the most electable candidates. Every now and then that gives us a Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, or Nikki Haley, instead of a Todd Akin or a Mike Castle.
Above all, though, let's not let the infighting distract from the message that the Obama Administration is systematically moving this nation away from its founding principles and to the mediocrity of corporate statism with a huge social welfare net. If not exactly Cuba or North Korea, he's trying to make us another Belgium or Portugal. We need to spend out efforts attacking this, not each other. Here endeth my rant.JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:18 pm
the Republican party has its own agenda anymore
it's all gun control and disaster pork and fetuses and means testing and amnesty and anti-gay bigotry with these ones
they can suck ithappyfeet (4bf7c2) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:26 pm
JVW, I don't think it's "infighting" to point out that when you actually look at Rove's track record it's no where near as impressive as his reputation would lead one to believe.Steve57 (60a887) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:40 pm
JVW #44 – you have expressed what I have been thinking for a while, and you have expressed it well !
As a mere humble fresh-off-the-boat (albeit last millennium) immigrant-become-resident-alien, it is disconcerting to see how many otherwise-intelligent folk here are swayed into attacking insufficiently-pure conservatives when the increasingly-corrupt current Administration is making more and more of a mess of this country and our economy …
Yup, Dubya shoulda vetoed some of the stuff from the final Congress of his second term … what does that have to do with the *fact* that the current Administration is night and day (and the next night too) worse for this country and our economy ?
happyfeet can be cute, some of the time, but his recitation of MSM talking points just emphasises the central point of my comment here !Alasdair (e7cb73) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:40 pm
"it's all gun control and disaster pork and fetuses and means testing and amnesty and anti-gay bigotry with these ones"
Mr. Feets – LOL. Those are the issues of the Democrat Racist Industrial Media Complex. You gone done and drank the Kool-Aid wifout saving any for anyone else.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:40 pm
JVW, I don't think it's "infighting" to point out that when you actually look at Rove's track record it's no where near as impressive as his reputation would lead one to believe.
With all due respect, Steve57, I don't know that I could have run winning gubernatorial and Presidential campaigns. George W. Bush had many outstanding qualities, but there were also plenty of personality quirks that could have easily derailed his candidacy. The fact that Rove skillfully brought him through four winning elections is pretty impressive to me.JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:44 pm
44. JVW, thanks for caring, but the republican party needs to walk the plank. Conservatives are done with compromise.mg (31009b) — 2/19/2013 @ 4:59 pm
mg, then by all means good luck winning statewide elections with candidates like Christine O'Donnell, Linda McMahon, Todd Akins, Tom Tancredo, and Sharon Angle. You'll need a lot of things to break your way to win with that lot.JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 5:25 pm
mg #50 – you have me curious …
In *your* eyes, what does the democrat party need to do ?Alasdair (8fa9b9) — 2/19/2013 @ 5:26 pm
In the end Romney lost because 1) his GOTV process was broken and/or sabotaged and 2) the crazy end of the evangelical spectrum couldn't vote for a Mormon and stayed home. Both these factors dragged all GOP candidates down.
I think it was funny watching the liars spin the lack of white voters as "minorities are a growing voting block". Fact is that millions of Republicans who voted for McCain for crying out loud didn't bother to show up. If Romney had got even McCain's numbers he would have won.
Rove had nothing to do with it, really. Neither did the Tea Party, as Romney was a lot closer to TP principles than McCain ever was.Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:09 pm
Rove had nothing to do with it, really. Neither did the Tea Party, as Romney was a lot closer to TP principles than McCain ever was.
Neither Rove, nor Romney nor McCain are anywhere close to TEA Party principles in any way, shape or form.WarEagle82 (2b7355) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:18 pm
50. Alasdair, democrats need to rot in hell. And the republicans continue to run rino"s like scotty no pants brown. Fagetaboutit.mg (31009b) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:19 pm
"We" need more people that win, and fewer people that lose?
Thanks for the scoop, there, Karl.Icy (ecf95a) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:38 pm
Kevin M., your comment turns out to be based on turnout figures that were not final. Romney did as well as McCain among voters in general, and better in some classes like independants. Obama just did barely enough better to edge out a win.SPQR (768505) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:41 pm
so, what you are saying SPQR,is that the margin of fraud made all the difference again…
if i had wanted to live in a third world country, i would have emigrated. 😛redc1c4 (403dff) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:16 pm
It's my understanding that Obama won primarily because of young voters.DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:38 pm
Kool-aid is a good value for my family and I like it cause I can control how much sugar my kids gethappyfeet (4bf7c2) — 2/19/2013 @ 7:39 pm
I know you know all this but in all the current confusion I just seek to remind you.
HotAir on Moonbeam's irrational exuberance:
"in light of the still higher taxes on the wealthy for which the state voted in November, certain taxpayers were paying off portions of their bills early in order to get some of their income off of the books before the start of the new year — meaning that January's surge will be offset by an April dip. Oh, how the optimistic budgetary cookies crumble, especially when you're counting on a highly graduated tax system to not severely alter people's financial behaviors. California has been hoping to make up for years of multibillion dollar budget shortfalls with Brown's budgeting scheme, but as Reuters pointed out last month, it relies on the wealthier getting wealthier, as well as an improving economy and high-earners sticking around to pay those heightened taxes — none of which seem like particularly safe bets."
Jer, "Check that, on further review, I've Linda Rondstat's bwains".gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:07 pm
51. "Christine O'Donnell, Linda McMahon, Todd Akins, Tom Tancredo, and Sharon Angle"
Mittwit Romney, Scottie Brown, Allen West, Tommy Thompson, …
Sans rhyme or reason we're really in a dark mood. Remember to tip the executioner, Pilgrim.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:14 pm
62. Cont. Remember when the GOP won elections? Remember when winning mattered?
You do? You're getting kinda long in the tooth there, relic. Got your affairs in order?gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:31 pm
Neither Rove, nor Romney nor McCain are anywhere close to TEA Party principles in any way, shape or form.
I did not call any of them Tea Party, and particularly not "value voters" Rove or "Gang of Weasels" McCain.
But, depending on what you call the TP, Romney/Ryan was closer to it than any Republican ticket since Reagan. To me, the Tea Party is about balanced budgets, low taxes and smaller government and really has no position one way or the other on social issues. A lot like the folks who voted for Perot in '92.
SPQR, yes, I was working from memory and they ran up the numbers later further than I thought.Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:42 pm
In short, the Tea Party is pretty much the bourgeoisie.Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:44 pm
I liked Jeffrey Lord's earlier piece, comparing Draper's jeremiad, with chorus from Cupp, to Donovan back 49 years ago, a little perspective.narciso (3fec35) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:44 pm
Romney has faded into oblivion it's my favorite quality about himhappyfeet (acd614) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:45 pm
Quinn thinks we can take this exorcism too far:
There's a named conjecture out there, "Any controversy can persist only so long before a charge of Nazism is levelled". I forget the name.
I'll see your Nazism and raise you a Sanctimony.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:48 pm
67. You have a gift.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:48 pm
No, the parallel is probably closer to the '44 race, with an establishment figure like Dewey,
and a conservative like Bricker,
70. Can't seem to find it.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:16 pm
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/02/19/twittering-dinosaursnarciso (3fec35) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:29 pm
72. Thanks, efforting.
This is how the splatter shakes out:
Here's the ongoing splatter:
Courtesy Doug Ross.
Spain isn't making it, debt 88% of GDP 2012 will be 94% end of 2013 is all over the news. Unfortunately that does not count the regions, which double it, or the banks, add 50%. 300 government officials stand indicted of corruption. Tipping point could be anything at all.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 9:57 pm
So, 'til Thursday then.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 10:16 pm
Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/19/2013 @ 8:14 pm
Uh, excuse me Gary, but I listed those names precisely because these were Tea Party backed candidates who failed to win statewide elections. You come back to me with Mitt Romney, Scott Brown, and Tommy Thompson, all of whom actually won a statewide election. Whose point are you trying to prove, mine?JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:49 pm
Are you playing the old "It's better to be really, really principled and get your ass kicked in the election and live under liberal rule than to actually compromise a bit and elect someone you agree with 75% of the time"? 'Cause that is a one-way ticket to loserville, my man.JVW (4826a9) — 2/19/2013 @ 11:51 pm
JVW #76 – do you think they will call them Obamavilles ? Or will they stick with the tried-and-true Hoovervilles ?
Sorta ironic that we, here in the US, have actually elected a Potemkin Administration …
(SIGH !)Alasdair (a28b33) — 2/20/2013 @ 12:12 am
76.JVW, You people have already compromised your will to stand the line. You people have been in loserville since R.R. You republicans are the gutless wonders of my time. Grow a pair, will ya.mg (31009b) — 2/20/2013 @ 1:23 am
Blind Faith had to be thinking about republicans when they sang" I'm wasted and can't find my
way home"
75. You are not excused. You will sit right there, young man, until you finish your peas.
Per the discussion with Pee Wee, the mere fact TEAs vote in some measure for a candidate does not mean they 'support', let alone selected the candidate.
Like O'Donnell, Akin and Tancredo predate the TEA Party. McMahon was an establishment pick all the way, Christie even travelled to CT to stump for her.
Sticking the TEAs with your losers is reprehensible, but precisely the gripe taken with Rove here.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:06 am
O'Donnell and Angle can be placed at the TEA doormat, but remember, Rove showed up in DE and announced, FreedomWorks attending, how the primary would be fought, that Castle was the anointed because he stood the best chance of winning.
It was at that point FreedomWorks dug in their heels.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:13 am
O'Donnell did as well as any of Biden's challengers in the last three cycles, Angle emerged after Lowden collapsed, Tancredo was substituted for McMillan, who was pinched on a bogus charge.narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 6:10 am
When you're playing against Le Chiffre, you need to know when to deal;
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/20/gingrich-why-karl-rove-is-just-plain-wrong/narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 6:38 am
this is what we're aiming for;
http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-washington-has-a-tradition-of-trying-to-silence-people/article/2522035narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 6:59 am
I recall reading a story about all the contractors to the Romney campaign who did not effectively use the mountain of donations and spent their efforts selling GOTV products instead of actually devoting themselves to winning.
Ace suggested this was about securing a paycheck.
Is it unfair to believe that a Tea Partier's campaign would be more devoted, albeit less slick? There are a lot of entrenched folks who make a career in the political sector who I have a difficult time trusting, even if they say they agree with me on most issues. I am concerned they are just staking out enough of a position to be better than democrats while giving themselves an excuse 'bipartisanship' for not actually solving anything. See 2001-2006.Dustin (73fead) — 2/20/2013 @ 7:27 am
Fact is that millions of Republicans who voted for McCain for crying out loud didn't bother to show up. If Romney had got even McCain's numbers he would have won.
Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 2/19/2013 @ 6:09 pm
Romney got slightly more votes than McCain. If you exclude CA, where Republicans voters have apparently thrown in the towel, his out performance vs. McCain increases. Some of Romney's total must have been new voters so there were still probably some McCain voters who stayed home or voted for Obama but it wasn't this 4 million number that erroneously was heard right after the election.Gerald A (fd4d6e) — 2/20/2013 @ 7:56 am
O'Donnell did as well as any of Biden's challengers in the last three cycles
Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 6:10 am
What is your point?Gerald A (fd4d6e) — 2/20/2013 @ 8:01 am
If after four years of this idiocy, the numbers are basically flat, we've lostnarciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 8:02 am
82. And as you pointed out earlier, Rove supported Grayson not Paul.
During this dustup Rove has even laid claim to working for, even running, the 1980 Texas' Reagan campaign. Just a flat out lie as Texans have politely informed us.
The reasons for the loss of Rove's early pick as 2012 POTUS are little disputed. The Brownshirts hit the streets early, banged on doors, told supporters there was an election, what the ward and precinct was, and had their unreliables vote early.
Meanwhile Romney's campaign blew $200 Million on partisan hacks and mercenary consultants.
Worried about swingers they picked up 4 Million but lost 2 Million poor conservatives who saw no change in their own circumstances on the horizon.
Result: the GOP lost ground.
No foot soldiers? No holding territory, is that a surprise?
Just north of 50% of the eligible population voted. Twenty five percent of the population selected POTUS.
Worried about where a victory might come from? What ever for?gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 8:03 am
Listen. We can all sit around and debate about why Romney lost. We can argue about the future of the conservative movement. We can all enjoy taking pot shots at Carl Rove (and believe me, this is one my most favorite past times). But every single one of us knows exactly what we need to do to fix the giant pothole of shit that we're all sitting in.
We have dig up the old man. We have to dig up Reagan.Bets (d491bc) — 2/20/2013 @ 8:14 am
There, feel better?
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/02/house-really-safe-in-2014/gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 9:12 am
89- How many of the "25%" voted multiple times like that precinct worker in OH?
She is not an anomaly, but the rule among the graduates of ACORN.
On the subject of elections, Newsmax links to some outfit called Lignet that is selling the analysis Benedict is retiring because a likely successor has emerged.
Four frontrunners, two from LA among them.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 10:04 am
We need more Rand Pauls and fewer Karl Roves.NeoCon_1 (9dccdd) — 2/20/2013 @ 12:25 pm
"Meanwhile Romney's campaign blew $200 Million on partisan hacks and mercenary consultants.
Worried about swingers they picked up 4 Million but lost 2 Million poor conservatives who saw no change in their own circumstances on the horizon.
Result: the GOP lost ground.
No foot soldiers? No holding territory, is that a surprise?"
gary – What kind of medals are awarded for hindsight heroism?daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 12:47 pm
gary gulrud #89 and daleyrocks #94 – did the "2 Million poor conservatives who saw no change in their own circumstances on the horizon" who stayed home and thus didn't vote for Romney not realise that they simply guaranteed the fulfilment of their own prophecy ?Alasdair (e7cb73) — 2/20/2013 @ 3:33 pm
Can't wait to see the republicans try and cram the Jersey pumpkin down our throats.mg (31009b) — 2/20/2013 @ 3:37 pm
Alasdair – Obsessing about the past is the only way to Win the Future!!!!!11ty!!!!!daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 4:43 pm
94. "What kind of medals are awarded for hindsight heroism?"
Sometimes you can be a real Bain in the hinder daley.
95. Well lets think about that for a moment. Sean Trende's analysis ending in that conclusion centered on SE OH, coal country.
Don't get me wrong, Romney did quite well, but his message was Republican boilerplate and his singular personal attribute, risk aversion.
It wasn't just he didn't connect as an emotional peer he had no vision to impart to these people, no heuristic to carry them from another unemployment check to happiness and security.
He wore mom ea just like the antiChrist. He slept at the corner of Wall and Broad just like the Alien. His boys have a $100 Million trust.
If you're expecting some hardcase down on their luck to meet you half way to buy your 'good runner' you're probably going to be disappointed.
These people are the salt of the earth. If anyone gave them a thought it wasn't obvious to them.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 4:51 pm
mom jeansgary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 4:53 pm
Awarded to mg and gary gulrud for negativity and discouragement above and beyond the call of Monday morning quarterbacking, the
God can't change the past but we think we can if we obsess enough on it
Award.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:11 pm
gary – Try prunes.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:16 pm
good job guys!happyfeet (4bf7c2) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:16 pm
Let's run 'stay puff marshmallow' next, he seems to be popular, by that I mean, abandoning your state's citizens to massive dysfunction, seems to work,narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:25 pm
Mr. Feets – We must move backwards in order to move forwards!
You know this because you think the GOP is all about anti-butt sechs, fetuses, testing people for meanness, undocumented aliens, and warring on teh wimmynses like teh media sez.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:25 pm
Let's run somebody who doesn't make it through the primaries! D'oh!daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:27 pm
Where is my purity and loyalty oath?
I DEMAND MY LOYALTY AND PURITY OATH!daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:29 pm
Yes, because saying 'Obama was in over his head' while they accused your of contributory manslaughter, and tax fraud, that really works,narciso (3fec35) — 2/20/2013 @ 5:37 pm
Johnson from Wisconsin also was not never was Tea Party – Tea PArty claimed him supported him
This is quite wrong. I attended a handful of Wisconsin Tea Parties that year and Johnson spoke at all of them. He definitely kept the tenets of the Tea Party in Washington. Don't know why anyone would deny that he's one of the Tea Party Senators with Rand Paul and Rubio.red (7b5f67) — 2/20/2013 @ 6:20 pm
Daley, you're a bust as a polemicist. Dustin proved that inside out and backwards.
Romney has you arse butt hurt because you were in the tank for him from the start and all of us who tried, with everything we had, to dissuade you got absolutely no where.
You are incapable of admitting oversights let alone errors. Back of the class for you sport.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/20/2013 @ 7:39 pm
Let's just move on and hope the GOP has someone we all can believe in in 2016.Dustin (73fead) — 2/20/2013 @ 11:50 pm
not true, he as supported by them, he praised them, he thanked them, but he's not one of themEPWJ (1cedce) — 2/20/2013 @ 11:53 pm
You know this because you think the GOP is all about anti-butt sechs, fetuses, testing people for meanness, undocumented aliens, and warring on teh wimmynses like teh media sez.
Mr. Feets is interesting because there are streaks of liberalism in him, meaning he's typical of a percentage of the electorate. Therefore, I can easily see a bit of squish coming out of such people on any number of occasions (such as at the polling booth on election day), which I don't say pejoratively — although I don't care for it in its modern-day form — but merely descriptively.
That has to be kept in mind, because a major opinion poll I just read online indicates that left-leaning biases continue to dumb down a good portion of the populace, well after November's election. Such a phenomenon deserves as much of the blame as much as anything else, including what Mitt Romney did or didn't do, or what Karl Rove did or didn't do, etc. IOW, the idiocy of liberal, self-entitled sentiment in the human condition — transcendent in time and place — deserves as much scrutiny as anything or anyone else.Mark (25e2eb) — 2/21/2013 @ 12:30 am
"Daley, you're a bust as a polemicist."
gary – I'm not a polemicist you moron. You love to spend your day gushing bile over the past while offering no suggestions for the future. I call that a waste of time.
Having Democrats laugh while conservatives/Republicans vomit all over themselves arguing who should and shouldn't pick candidates when it is actually the voters who pick the winners of primaries is just more fun than I can take sometimes. We just need to stifle dissent and take away choices and do things the autocratic way. Keep things pure, so to speak.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/21/2013 @ 1:16 am
Therefore, I can easily see a bit of squish coming out of such people on any number of occasions
The problem is that he isn't squishing. He actually has different principles than you and I have. He's actually pretty consistent about his principles.
So when squishing is a bad thing, and we cannot be a majority without practically all of us squishing on a lot of things, we run into a problem. I think we need to prioritize and get the spending fixed while putting most other issues on the back burner on a national level. Get the budget balanced first.
Having Democrats laugh while conservatives/Republicans vomit all over themselves arguing who should and shouldn't pick candidates when it is actually the voters who pick the winners of primaries is just more fun than I can take sometimes.
This is frustrating, but it's right. Romney beat the other candidates. That's unfortunate as I think other candidates were better positioned to criticize Obama, but I have no idea how it would have worked out on election day. I strongly suspect Obama would have won anyway because of moocher votes. If anyone has a solution to that I'm all ears.Dustin (73fead) — 2/21/2013 @ 1:40 am
Perhaps having conservatives own all the printing presses and all the television stations, along with controlling the education system (beginning with preschool and ending with graduate school) for 40 years would produce a conservative candidate. We are porked people.mg (31009b) — 2/21/2013 @ 2:53 am
115. OTOH, the Borg has begun to disintegrate over lack for donuts. EPA has lost another top official, tens of thousands of desk jockey's furloughed.
I think even old farts like us will get to see the end.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/21/2013 @ 6:37 am
110. Agreed. In so doing we put to rest forever the false trump of 'electability'.
Only the candidate on fire with vision will bring in the bystanders, a la Reagan. Mere stage presence like Christie, or flat orthodoxy like J. Bush will not cut warm doo doo.
Plainly 'compromise', viz. R. Paul's floor speech citing Cassius versus Henry, is an insidious practice and vacuous ideal.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/21/2013 @ 6:48 am
Whether from the keyboard of Ace or whomever the charge of 'purity' is and always has been a vile smear.
The Right has always been behind 'adequacy'. Obviously, with the Cliff in the rearview mirror, the exact constituents of adequacy has changed a bit.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:01 am
The problem is that he isn't squishing. He actually has different principles than you and I have.
Dustin, what I mean by "squish" is a person who is more likely to split his (or her) ballot — perhaps splitting for splitting's sake — mainly because such a person becomes nervous if conservatism and right-leaning politicians become too ascendant. It may have absolutely nothing to do with whether a person's principles are pliable and unformed or not (or what some people may think of when talking about "squish").
Such a person will grumble about liberal politicians and policies, but it's also very likely he or she will not help prevent things from falling further apart based on the belief that one can always vote with one's feet—ie, "I'll move to Colorado if things get really bad," or "I'll move to New Zealand if things get really bad."
There are plenty of squishes throughout California right now who aren't happy with the state (its economy and one-party leftist politics), and who've therefore relocated to other parts of the US, regrettably bringing their squishiness with them.Mark (25e2eb) — 2/21/2013 @ 7:49 am
It wasn't just he didn't connect as an emotional peer he had no vision to impart to these people,
Again, keep in mind that left-leaning sentiment is a major facet (or flaw) of human nature, evident throughout many societies, many peoples. It's more polluted and corrupt today than ever before, and to be unaware of how corrosive it is, is analogous to theorizing that a coastal town will survive the impact of a big tsunami if it's built strongly enough (ie, if a Republican or non-liberal candidate fits some presumed ideal or quality).
Mark (25e2eb) — 2/21/2013 @ 8:13 am
latimes.com, February 20, 2013:
President Obama goes into a busy spring of legislative battles holding the upper hand over congressional Republicans on key issues, a newly released poll shows.
In the fight over automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to begin March 1, Obama has a dual advantage: Almost half of Americans surveyed said they would blame the GOP if the cuts took place, compared with fewer than one-third who said they would blame Obama. Moreover, an overwhelming majority, 79%, say that additional tax increases should be part of any new deficit reduction deal, compared with only 19% who side with the Republican position that the deficit should be reduced solely with spending cuts.
The figures come from a new survey by the Pew Research Center, the first done as part of a new collaboration with USA Today.
The public was less united on whether other legislative goals were essential. Just over half gave that rating to immigration reform, another issue on which Obama holds a strong advantage in the poll… Over the last two years, the percentage favoring an enforcement-only approach has dropped, and Obama's approval rating on handling immigration issues has risen.
Separately, a new Bloomberg poll finds that 55% of Americans approve of Obama's job performance, the strongest support that poll has found since September 2009. By contrast, 35% held a favorable view of the Republicans, the lowest level since September 2009.
latimes.com, February 20: Californians' optimism about the state's future is down slightly since September, but is still higher than it has been for most of the past decade, according to a new Field Poll. The survey found that 48% of registered voters say California is heading in the right direction compared with 44% who believe the state is on the wrong track. That's down slightly from a September survey in which 52% of state voters said they were confident in the state's direction.
State voters give high marks to President Obama, whose approval ratings are higher than at any point since his first year in office. Sixty-two percent of those surveyed said they approve of the job the president is doing.
Obama's job rating reached a low point in September 2011, when the Field Poll put his approval rating at 46%.
California's view of Congress has also improved slightly, but is still generally negative. Just 23% of Californians surveyed said they approve of its performance. About three times as many — 68% — disapprove of the legislative body's performance.
^ I often point to France, Greece or Venezuela — or certainly Argentina — as examples of how bad things can get or become, in which much of the electorate says nothing but, "why, me worry?"
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves…"
"Whether from the keyboard of Ace or whomever the charge of 'purity' is and always has been a vile smear."
gary – If it's not a purge of filthy RINOs and linguine spined establishment politicians to purify the right, what exactly are you suggesting? Please educate me.daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/21/2013 @ 9:20 am
One thing the people decrying the "infighting" or the calls for "purity" need to understand, but don't appear to, is that there is a basic contradiction in the Republican party. Angelo Codevilla explains it well in this Forbes article:
As Country Club Republicans Link Up With The Democratic Ruling Class, Millions Of Voters Are Orphaned
On January 1, 2013 one third of Republican congressmen, following their leaders, joined with nearly all Democrats to legislate higher taxes and more subsidies for Democratic constituencies. Two thirds voted no, following the people who had elected them. For generations, the Republican Party had presented itself as the political vehicle for Americans whose opposition to ever-bigger government financed by ever-higher taxes makes them a "country class." Yet modern Republican leaders, with the exception of the Reagan Administration, have been partners in the expansion of government, indeed in the growth of a government-based "ruling class." They have relished that role despite their voters. Thus these leaders gradually solidified their choice to no longer represent what had been their constituency, but to openly adopt the identity of junior partners in that ruling class. By repeatedly passing bills that contradict the identity of Republican voters and of the majority of Republican elected representatives, the Republican leadership has made political orphans of millions of Americans. In short, at the outset of 2013 a substantial portion of America finds itself un-represented, while Republican leaders increasingly represent only themselves.
…The ever-growing U.S. government has an edgy social, ethical, and political character. It is distasteful to a majority of persons who vote Republican and to independent voters, as well as to perhaps one fifth of those who vote Democrat. The Republican leadership's kinship with the socio-political class that runs modern government is deep.
…Thus public opinion polls confirm that some two thirds of Americans feel that government is "them" not "us," that government has been taking the country in the wrong direction, and that such sentiments largely parallel partisan identification: While a majority of Democrats feel that officials who bear that label represent them well, only about a fourth of Republican voters and an even smaller proportion of independents trust Republican officials to be on their side.
…The civilization of the ruling class does not concede that those who resist it have any moral or intellectual right, and only reluctantly any civil right, to do so. Resistance is illegitimate because it can come only from low motives. President Obama's statement that Republican legislators – and hence the people who elect them – don't care whether "seniors have decent health care…children have enough to eat" is typical.
Republican leaders neither parry the insults nor vilify their Democratic counterparts in comparable terms because they do not want to beat the ruling class, but to join it in solving the nation's problems. How did they come to cut such pathetic figures?
As Prof. Codevilla points out in another part of his article, the GOP leadership never defends its base from charges of being "greedy, racist, violent, ignorant extremists." But when they won't even defend themselves from those charges how could you expect that?
The truth of the matter is that they believe it to be true. Which is why McCain and other members of the GOP leadership happily joined in with them calling their own base racists the last time they tried to pass an amnesty under Bush.
The fact is the establishment GOP is just as guilty as the Democrats in doing the two things that have destroyed Constitutional government. They've usurped the powers of the states and concentrated power in DC, and they've delegated legislative power to unelected executive branch departments.
This is why Karl Rove is no conservative when he brags about "no child left behind" as great election strategy for Bush's reelection. Because again, that was the Federal government concentrating more power within itself to take over what should be a state and local function. And it delegated regulatory authority, which has the force of law, to the Department of Education.
Saying that's not conservative isn't a matter of opinion. It is a fact. Because if what you wish to conserve is Constitutional government, and big "C" conservatives say they do, then you don't run around destroying federalism and the separation of powers.
I don't recall exactly at what point the Republican establishment became an advocate for big government against the wishes of its base, but its been quite awhile.
Boehner isn't "caving" to Obama when he agrees that sequestration will cause "deep" and "painful" cuts to government. He believes it. Which is insane because as Rand Paul points out all sequestration means is that over the next 10 years we'll spend $44 trillion instead of $45T. But government is Boehner's constituency.
McCain isn't "caving" when he votes for Hagel or demands more gun control. It's what he wants to do. Like with Boehner, you can't really call it "caving" if it isn't against his will.
Big government Republicanism isn't conservative. That's why Bush (although it was probably Rove's idea) ran as a "compassionate conservative." Conservatives want to cut the size of government. Big government Republicans don't think cutting government is compassionate; expanding government is.
They just run as if they want to cut the size of government. And that's the problem.Steve57 (60a887) — 2/21/2013 @ 12:07 pm
121. A purge generally is accomplished from within, Mr. Daley. This is just more RINO hue and ululation that they are being persecuted.
Oh, really. You've had your way with everything since Ronnie's first tour and you are the marked mens?
Yes, the so-cons day dream about a Mau Mau uprising, a Boxer rebellion, a Sepoy mutiny, but nothing of the sort has ever been a risk.
Not only are the Big Tenters feckless cowards, they are paranoid delusionists.
Victory is a sham goal. All you really want is to keep the plantation watered and your mint juleps coming.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/21/2013 @ 12:50 pm
122. Fair account. "How long?" narciso had a link to Jeff Lord at Spectator ticking it off back thru Dewey.
Which reminds me, he promised a sequel for today.gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 2/21/2013 @ 12:58 pm
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21 Suspects Named in Major East Texas ID Theft Ring
A four month fraud investigation conducted by members of the Tyler Police Department, FBI and other County and local police agencies has led to numerous suspects being charged with Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity.
Some 45 victims have called police since January, 2013 reporting their ID was fraudulently used stemming back to 2012.
The suspects were going on-line and obtaining multiple loans, using the victims' identities, and had the funds transferred into the suspect's bank accounts that they had set up. The victims were not aware of the fictitious loans in their names until they were contacted by the loan company for default of payment.
Investigators have identified 21 suspects at this time, who are predominately from Tyler, for their involvement in the fraud scheme. Investigators have obtained arrest warrants on these suspects for Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity, a first degree felony. Bond was set at $750,000 on each suspect.
A list of suspects provided below, includes those who have been arrested and those who police cannot locate that have an outstanding warrant for their arrest.
1. Brandon Sessions, 33, Rusk. Unable to Locate
2. Demarcus Osborn, 23, Tyler Unable to Locate
3. Jessica Osborn,24, Tyler Unable to Locate
4. Kachada Webb, 23, Tyler Unable to Locate
5. Michael Hunter, 24, Tyler Arrested
6. Lashundra Harris, 21, Tyler Unable to Locate
7. Tevin King, 19, San Antonio. Unable to Locate
8. Roderick TaylorII, 24, Tyler Unable to Locate
9. Derrick Griffith, 19, Tyler Unable to Locate
10. Christopher Pipkins, 24,Tyler Unable to Locate
11. Britani Anderson, 27, Jacksonville. Unable to Locate
12. Michael Earl, 23, Tyler. Unable to Locate
13. James Miller Jr., 29, Tyler Unable to Locate
14. Kedarius Oliver, 19, Tyler Arrested
15. Shavonda Jones, 28, Tyler Arrested
16. Russell Lowrie, 21, Tyler Arrested
17. Demarciar Nelson, 18, Tyler Arrested
18. Chartyll McCullough, 23, Tyler Arrested
19. Kendallyn Adams, 38, Jacksonville. Arrested
20. Kimberly Stewart, 27, Tyler Arrested
21. Desidre Harris, 17, Tyler Arrested
Officers and Investigators located another suspect this Wednesday morning in the 700 block of S. Peach hiding inside the residence. The suspect was identified as Michael Hunter. Hunter was transported to Smith county Jail and booked in on the outstanding felony warrant.
Anyone with information about the suspects involved in this crime is urged to contact the Tyler Police Department, at 903-531-1000, or Crimestoppers at 903-597-CUFF (903-597-2833). Crimestoppers will pay up to $1,000 for information that leads to the arrest and charges filed against the suspects in this case or any felony case.

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Monday, 30 August 2010 10:31
Part one of this article discussed the Zionist Jewish Israeli mother lode myth of God's Chosen People in God's Promised Land that gave birth to all other Zionist Jewish Israeli myths. Part two will discuss only the most dangerous of these myths, for discussing them all requires volumes.
Jews are one race. As God's Chosen People Jews claim themselves to be a pure-blooded one race tracing their lineage all the way back, at least, to Abraham if not to Adam. Their prophets, rabbis, and political leaders had emphatically always called on them to separate themselves from other nations and to intermarry to keep their "holy seed" pure. Yet if one walks through any Israeli city or through any Jewish community anywhere in the world for that matter, one can easily notice the huge racial diversity in the population. Jews come in different colors and ethnic characteristics. There are the blacks, the browns, the whites, the reds, the yellows, and the blondes.
The Israelites had mingled with and married within other nations. Even Moses, their holiest prophet, had married a non-Israelite; an Ethiopian woman (Numbers 12:1). The Israelite kings followed their prophet and married non-Jewish women. King David married Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite after causing his death (Samuel 2, 11). King Solomon had non-Jewish (Egyptians, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites and others) seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines (Kings 1, 11:1). The regular Israelite men and women had mingled with and married within other nations.
Like any other religion Judaism sought to convert other people into the religion. Many Arab tribes in the south of Arabian Peninsula adopted Judaism. They, later on, believing that the Prophet Muhammad was their awaited Messiah, converted to Islam. Judaism was also adopted by the Khazars and was made the state religion in the 7th Century. The Khazars' empire controlled southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, Azerbaijan, large portions of Northern Caucasus, parts of Georgia, the Crimea, and Northeastern Turkey. Such huge population has no blood relation to Abraham.
Many Zionist Jewish historians, themselves, had refuted the myth of Jews as one race. Dr. Shlomo Sand's study "The Invention of the Jewish People" (read the review of Simon Schama) and Israeli Professor Tom Segev's article "An invention called the Jewish people" are just two examples among many regarding this myth.
Adopting Judaism does not make a Jew an Israeli, adopting Islam does not make a Moslem an Arab, and adopting Christianity does not make a Christian a citizen of any Christian country.
The myth of Israelites' exodus from Egypt: This is not just a huge distortion of the Israelite history but also a distortion of world history as well. This myth starts with the sale of Joseph as a slave into Pharaoh's house and becoming, later after imprisonment, an Egyptian leader second only to Pharaoh and ends with Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt. It is a very well known fact to historians and archaeologists that ancient Egyptians were the most meticulous recorders of their history, especially of the lives of their leaders. Nowhere in the Egyptian records was found even a remote mention of Joseph, of Israelites, of all the many plaques inflicted on the Egyptians by the angry vengeful Judaic god, the Israelites exodus, or the drowning of the Egyptian army in the Red Sea. Huge doubts shrouded the personality of Moses cast further doubts about exodus as a historical reality. It is known that Jews thoroughly document the lineage of their prophets all the way back to Adam. Yet very little is known about Moses' family or his descendants. The descendants of such a great Israelite prophet would have expected to lead the Israelites for few more generations. Moses suddenly and mysteriously disappeared as he suddenly and mysteriously appeared.
None of the historical or archaeological records and studies mentions nor confirms the myth of the exodus.
The myth of Jewish persecution: Along their whole history the Jews have depicted themselves as the perpetual victims of other people's persecution. Anti-Semitism, claimed to be anti-Jewish although there are other Semitic people such as Arabs, is always being used to as an indication of people's hatred towards Jews. It is used as a defense mechanism the Jews use against anybody who criticizes Jews and the state of Israel. Zionists incite, encourage, and plan anti-Jewish sentiments and crimes to justify their claim of a need for a safe Jewish state. Israel uses anti-Semitism to justify its genocide of Palestinians and the theft of their country. Zionist Jewish Israeli literature want us to believe that all non-Jewish nations suffer from an irrational pathological hatred of Jews.
Talking to a 10-year old about the historical global persecution of the Jews he surprised me with the most logical question: "Why, what did the Jews do to deserve such a persecution?" The fact is that such an anti-Jewish sentiment originates from the Jewish attitude towards others. Their belief of God's Chosen People drives the Jews to consider themselves the global master race, to separate themselves in protected communities (Ghettos) away from all non-pure nations, to look down at other nations, and to consider others slaves and animals whose sole existence is to serve the Jews.
Since ancient history the Jews employed themselves into unfair monetary usury and recently into financial banking and debt industry. They traded heavily in alcohol, prostitution, human organ trafficking, and slavery. They had kidnapped Africans and sold them in the Americas as slaves causing the death of five to nine million Africans during transportation; a well documented holocaust (Who Brought the Slave to America?)
Anti-Jewish sentiment is the natural reaction of people to Jewish own pathological religious hatred and disdain to all other nations, and their manipulation, corruption, and damage to other societies through their debt financial usury financial organizations. American Israel Public Affair Committee's (AIPAC) manipulation of American financial systems, corruption of American politicians, manipulation of American foreign policy, and control of American minds and lives through manipulation of mass media and religious organizations is just an example of Zionist Jewish damaging effect on other nations.
Jewish Holocaust and the 6 million victims: The Holocaust is probably the most controversial subject since WWII. Holocaust is used by Zionists to instill guilt feeling in European nations, especially Germans, to extort money and political support from them. It is also used to instill a severe pathological phobia (same as anti-Semitic phobia) of other nations in the Jewish psyche in order to encourage Jews to immigrate to Israel. Furthermore, Holocaust is used to justify the illegal establishment of the terrorist state of Israel in Palestine and of Israel's genocide of Palestinians and to exonerate the Israeli army of all their violations of international laws, their crimes against humanity, and their war crimes.
Although there are numerous other genocidal crimes worse than the Holocaust with many millions of victims more than 6 millions, it is only the Jewish Holocaust that has been singled out to be sanctified even over God himself. Whereas it is legal and permissible to discuss all historical events, to blasphemy against all religions, and even to deny the existence of God himself, it is, though, illegal and not permissible to even discuss the Holocaust outside of its Zionist context. Severe punishable laws had been set up to penalize all those who dare to research, study, and discuss the real facts of the Holocaust. Yet many honest research historians (revisionists) were willing to face character assassination, physical assaults, disbarment from academic and professional associations, humiliation, long term imprisonment, and huge financial fines to courageously challenge the validity of the Holocaust.
Forensic and scientific researches and studies had casted a huge doubt over the validity and reality of the Holocaust. Studies show that it was impossible to burn 6 million people during the Nazi regime even with non-stop 24-hours operations. Studies also determined that the alleged crematory gas chambers were unfit for such operations. Chemical analysis of the walls of these chambers did not yield any residue of the alleged used Zyklon B gas to kill people. Historical records showed that Zyklon B was used to for disinfecting clothing and buildings in camps ravaged by the typhus epidemics.
Zionists point to the Nazi "final solution for the Jewish problem in Europe" as Hitler's direct order to exterminate the Jews. There was found no Nazi official order to exterminate the Jews. On the contrary this final solution was meant to encourage German Jews to immigrate to Palestine. Having similar racist elitist ideologies Zionist organizations worked with Nazi Germany to encourage European Jews, especially the very rich German Jews, to immigrate to Palestine to establish the state of Israel. It is a documented fact (other many documents) that Zionist had cooperated with Nazis to teach Zionist European Jews the necessary agricultural and military skills required to live in Kibutzims (agricultural communist farms) before shipping them to occupy Palestine. Nazi Germany had shipped many Jews, and transferred money, to Palestine to execute the final solution for the Jewish problem. Zionists, through the "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel" terrorist group, better known as Lehi or Stern Gang, had cooperated with the Nazis and conducted terrorist attacks against British troops in Palestine.
The Holocaust, or Shoah in Hebrew, means religious burnt offering to God to achieve some kind of blessings. Zionist leaders used this term to correctly reflect the deliberate sacrifice of comfortably living rich German Jews, who rejected Zionism and refused to immigrate to Palestine to establish the state of Israel, in order to gain sympathy for the Zionist cause, and to extort financial support from other nations. Zionist organizations cooperated with Nazi Germany through the Judenrats (Jewish councils in Ghettos) to hoard non-Zionist believing Jews into labor camps and to confiscate their properties, and to incite anti-Semitic (anti-Jewish) crimes such as the Chrystal Night (Kristallnacht) to scare the Jews into immigrating to Palestine.
The Holocaust has been described as an industry through which Zionism gains financial and political support to the backbone of its project "Greater Israel" in the Middle East. The cry of "never again", only to the Jews, justifies the founding of Israel as a safe haven to the Jews, which in itself is another myth, for Israel is the most dangerous place for Jews to live in. Although many Jews, as well as many other citizens including Germans, had been sacrificed and deliberately exterminated during WWII, the Holocaust alone will stay a controversial issue until it becomes permissible to study, and until related historical records are released to the public.
One wonders what would the records reveal that Zionist are afraid of!
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|1.8m long - 5335R/AR/180
|2.0m long - 5335R/AR/200
|2.4m long - 5335R/AR/240
|3.0m long - 5335R/AR/300
|3.6m long - 5335R/AR/360
|4.0m long - 5335R/AR/400
|4.8m long - 5335R/AR/480
|Sample - 14504/SAMPLE
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Southwest Arkansas Poultry Plant Fined by OSHA
The DeQueen, Arkansas poultry processing plant which is owned by Pilgrim's Pride Corp. has been cited with 11 safety violations by OSHA.Proposed penalties totaling $170,000 are pending for allegedly exposing workers to hazardous chemicals. The inspection began in January concerning the handling of anhydrous ammonia. in the refrigeration system.
OSHA says a willful violation, with a $70,000 fine, was cited for failing to document that the emergency shutdown system for the engine room was designed to ensure that the mechanical ventilation system was activated by an ammonia leak.