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Quitting Smoking Causes Mouth Ulcers113 messages in this subject.
|Its been five years since Ive smoked and still every month break out with mouth sores. I get four or five with each breakout is there any help out there this is miserable and if youve never had them you dont realize how painful they really are!!
|Dee 28 February 19
|I started having recurrent mouth ulcer when I quit smoking. And sometimes it is accomodated by swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Help?
|Dong Lapina 16 November 18
|I always get a flare-up in mouth ulcers when I quit smoking (I quit every so often, stay off them for say 6 months, then start again).
|Joe Tschirley 6 May 18
|I am now smoke free and canker free for 16 months !!!! its been a 30 year journey tried everything nothing worked except smoking or prednisone prednisone makes you nuts after a week and it blows you up like a melon !stop and listen remecade works you have to take forever 6 times year but it works awesome ! I had been to 10-20 doctors over the years 99 precent had no clue! hooked up at Yale with a dr David hauss gastro dr he is in hamden ct have your dr reach out to him this is the only thing that truly works after 30 years of trying all the stuff your reading abound none of it worked this does !!!
|kevin 13 April 18
|I quit for 6 years once and it was rough. I would have canker sores for about 1 week, then a few days without and then they would be back. I never thought that smoking would get rid of them. When i started back up they all went away. Since they I have tried to quit many times using anything i could, but the sores would always get me smoking again. I cant eat, drink, or talk. I work in healthcare and have talked with many types of doctors and they dont have answers. The last time i quit i had 25 cankers sores at once. some were even in my throat so I could not swallow. i did get checked for strep but it was negative. needless to say my mood was not great and my wife and kids always thought i was angry with them so i was putting them through hell too. I have given up on trying to quit. Not being able to eat and drink will kill me a lot faster than smoking. At least with the smoking i can still enjoy life and my kids wont have memories of Dad always seeming like he is angry.
|Dave 8 January 18
|Just dissolve a tums on the sore, and do it a few more times over the day and it will be gone real soon!
|Brady 16 November 17
|Im suffering from mouth Ulcers since 3 years....I had recently started smoking, when I have a ulcer in my mouth I smoke if feels like that it is healing soon. Normally it takes 1 week to heal, but with smoking it heals within 4 days like that. Does smoking heals Ulcers in mouth or it is more dangerous?
|Agassi Dan 19 October 17
|I quit smoking four days ago and i am facing 1 mouth ulcer i cut it many time but it occur again.doctor says it is mouth ulcer and it can be cure within 6 days but i am very afraid of this ulcers
|Khurram khan 10 August 17
|Vaping has definitely given me one of my worst and most painful out breaks (24 ulcers). they are ruining my life
|John 1 August 17
|Is it ok to suck smoke stop Lozenges, even though they contain nicotine? I have two or three sore spots after six weeks.
|Thelma Berry 15 July 17
|I had quit smoking for a little over 2 weeks. Been a pack a day smoker for well over 25 years. Second week contracted very nasty cold and soon afterwards my first cold sore or mouth ulcer. Have not had one since I was a kid so it directly correlates to quitting smoking. Might add I had to buy a new bottle of Nyquil as I had not had a cold in over 8 years the bottle had expired. SO guess it is time to deal with the next phase of quitting, finding something that works for me to combat these things. Hoping the more water thing will do the trick. Best of luck to all of you and don't give in to the smoking. You're doing great. Don't let them win. :)
|Edwin Bailey 6 May 17
|Regardless of all the pain from ulcers you might associate when smoke free is nothing compared to the pain you will suffer as a smoker with ulcers
|peter 16 March 17
|I stopped smoking on the 13 th Jan 2017 and my mouth is a mess. Antibiotics from the dentist haven't worked and my breath smells awful with all the infected ulcers and absesses going on help
|Jinty 18 February 17
|Remicade works big time !!!!
|Kevin 25 January 17
|I'm quitting smoking using an e cigarette and I keep getting them by my teeth which causes rubbing 😞. But I was drinking an herbal tea one day and it didn't hurt anymore. I did some research and the hibiscus that is in some teas has anti inflammatory properties
|Alex 19 April 16
|I will tell you how to destroy mouth ulcers,very,very,bad ones.My wife is Serbian,i am english.I stopped smoking and i had a mega serious bout of ulcers,so much so was the pain, that i could not eat more than a couple of mouth fulls of food..I had them for several days,in pain all of the time.
My wife one day who adored Peppers,the hotter the better made a double hot curry.We had curry on a regular basis of our diet,but this one she went to town on
with the small green and small red peppers,plus garlic,cayen.She served it up and she was a brilliant cook,"the best"!.
So i took a spoonfull knowing before i put it in my mouth i was going to be in pain,weather we were eating bread,chese,ice cream,or whatever.Now i can take alot of pain,i have been burned by Hydroflouric Acid in my time and stood the pain,but your mouth and tongue are very sensetive.Well i manned up and i loved her cooking,i put the first spoon full in my mouth and "oH! the pain was overwhelming but i got it down,"i said that i can not eat anymore,but she encouraged me by plating on my manhood mind,and said you baby! I took another spoon full and i could not believe it.The ulcers went numb,i finished that curry and had no more discomfort that night.When i awoke in the morning,the ulceration was still there.But there was no pain whatsoever"GONE ALL DISCOMFORT WAS GONE"!! "So if you have ulcers and have the courage? you know what to do
|Terry 26 March 16
|Have quitted smoking for over 2 years by using e.cigarettes when all my pals thought I was crazy with this funny little artificial device.
I gradually reduced my nicotene mixture to zero and then finally left my e.cig kit in the drawer.
Now I feel fine apart from these pesky ulcers which pop up now and then so just pop on some bonjela which helps the stinging.
This forum has been very useful in that it highlights this common side effect.
No more cigs here.!!!!
|Terry 25 March 16
|i haven't smoked for 4 days-----no mouth ulcers-------i do have cold symptoms and lips are numb and lining of mouth has mucous----what should i do?
|pat 28 February 16
|I've quit a few times. I'm on my third month and I'm suffering from two mouth sores right now. The first time I attempted quitting smoking I got mouth sores really bad. I remember reading an article in a medical journal that gave a pretty scientific and reasonable explanation. I can't find that article for the life of me but it basically said something to the affect of your body detoxifying and the toxins get in your blood steam and need to get out and the best way is thru the soft surface of your mouth--causing an ulcer. Either way---it doesn't help with the pain. The only thing I have found that helps is a spice called alum. It's very cheap. It's a spice used in pickiling. You apply it to the sore and it drastically reduces the pain and sores are usually gone in a day or two. Hope this helps.
|Richard 21 February 16
|I have been smoke free for 3 weeks , my mouth is very sore
|Julie 27 January 16
|There is absolutely a correlation. And I have found what works at least for me. When I feel ulcers coming in, I start pounding Acidophilus. 6-8 capsules a day. It has worked in not only preventing ulcers but the few that come through don't last as long. I searched for years and I'm telling you...PLEASE try it. It has saved my life. I lost both parents to lung cancer and continued to smoke for years cause the trade off in mouth and throat pain (yes....I had them down my throat) wasn't worth it. You can pick it up at any Vitamin store or even grocery stores now.
|Kristy Jackson 20 November 15
|I first attempted to give up smoking in 1996. My digestive system went way out of tune and I ended up being diagnosed with stomach and duodenum ulcers caused by Helicobacter pylori. That attempt lasted 6 months.
In 2010 I decided to give it another go and, again, my all digestive system was out of sync and soon after I was again being treated for Helicobacter pylori, that and the following year.
The mouth ulcers started before any other problems and I tried to control the problem many ways, including anti bacterial mouth washes, diet, Vitamin Bs to mention a few, but to no avail, the mouth ulcers continued non stop for the next 3 years
Early 2014, living with a smoker, I succumbed to the odd puff or cigarrette and soon realised that I was not getting mouth ulcers. Basically, one cigarette a day (if that) seemed to control the depressing mouth ulcer problem.
September this year when I contracted bronchitis and cut out all smoking, easy enough since I no longer get the craving ... in a month the mouth ulcers returned :(
Not a doubt in my mind that it is connected but try to talk to a doctor about it. I guarantee it will be taken that you are finding 'excuses' etc. Persevering to see if the Helicobacter pylori becomes a problem again.
|Genia 13 November 15
|I agree that stopping smoking can cause mouth ulcers!!!! (and big ones too) I stopped 3 years ago had 3 or 4 the size of my small finger nail. When they started to go ( 3 to 4 weeks) then more would come. It was endless so after 5 months I started smoking again!!
Then I stopped smoking again 3 months ago > Here we go again I have 4, I can hardly eat (soup or scrambled egg and spoil myself with a cottage pie sometimes) I'm giving it another month and starting smoking again if they do not cease.
I can't believe that the way medical treatments have moved forward so fast in recent years a treatment for ulcers cannot / has not been found
|Gary Sharpling 7 November 15
|Bi-carb &water.mix to a paste swish in the mouth several times day,&also clean teeth with paste instead of toothpaste.also checkout B vit.especially B12.
Hope this remedy helps.
|Brent 22 September 15
|I was successfully able to quit smoking 3 years ago and have been smoke free ever since! It was tough but stuck by my motto - I can never have one again if I ever want to quit. It helped me through tons of temptations!
Onto mouth ulcers! As a child I remember getting Ulcers here and there but they never were that painful and usually healed in a few days. I started smoking at around 15 (terrible I know) and after starting I never seemed to get any more mouth ulcers. It was like smoking STOPPED them. Fast forward 17 years and within 3 months of quitting, I got a very large ulcer. And by large I mean I could have competed in that years Canker Sore World Championship. It grew to almost the entire size of my bottom lip. After about 3 weeks, it healed and I went about my way thinking nothing of it. Then a month later, another, then another, and so on for the last 3 years. Some have been horrible (like the one I currently have) and others go away pretty quickly. My doctor told me there is no relation, but I disagree.
I feel that there is a connection between quitting smoking and mouth ulcers. Although I much prefer my clean lungs and heart over a few big ulcers per year :) I currently treat them with Triamcinolone Acetonide and usually they stop spreading early. However the one I just got, my prescription ran out and grew to the size of a dime. I just got a new tube and sheesh does it hurt putting this stuff on a big one but heres hoping it clears up in a few days!
|Ryan 5 September 15
|last cigarette on June 26 2015 and i am feeling great however i sleep 4 hours a day I hope sleepless will go away soon
|yassin 5 August 15
|Last cigarette on 4-July 2015 and feeling great for 19days+ , however I noticed I got mouth ulcers which was very rare for me before 4-July around 2 weeks and seems it has been getting worse, from 2 spots to 4-5 spots, it hurt! :( And I keep taking Vitamin C 2000mg (is it too much?I saw someone shared his experience and he took 4000mg daily) daily to try to make it better. Hopefully it would work out later. =(
I wonder if it is the more cigarettes you smoked the more severe the mouth ulcer you would experience. I quitted at the same day with my friend (who used to smoke 2 cigarettes a day for 10 years while mI was 1 pack a day for 12 years) hasn't developed any symptoms like mouth ulcers yet.
It darn hurts but I will NOT surrender! I have never breathed in such FRESH air to my lung and felt like I am gettin younger. I'll keep you guys updated my situation. I gave up cigarettes coz I dun wanna give up my life!
Sorry for my bad English and typo.
|Keith 22 July 15
|Try mix of benadryl and Malox
|brisn 20 July 15
|I had my last cigarette on feb 6 2015.And it makes me feel proud to remember the day I quit. Its been three months fighting with withdrawl symptoms like ulcers ,anxiety ,depression ,lethargy ,dry mouth,heavy head,confusion.But things are changing I am able to sense my surroundings better, I can hear taste smell again . I felt like zero bit everything changing now. Also distance yourself from alcohal for several months so to not have cravings. Smoked the imagimary cigarette sometimes At first.
|ac 14 April 15
|I've been trying to quit smoking for years, now I am able to quit for once and not have ulcers! What did I do different? I prayed to Jesus to remove them and have been using listerine every time they hurt. I can't promote prayer enough - it works when you have faith!
|JasonD 25 March 15
|I stopped smoking 1 month ago now i aml expiriencing lining in my both cheeks and to many mouth and tongue ulcers ....what do i do now ...
|Rahul 3 February 15
I gave up smoking some eighteen years ago. I stopped in October and was constantly ill, catching one virus after another during the winter months. My mouth was also full of ulcers. I awoke one morning with, what I thought was a piece of chewing gum beneath my tongue, but in actual fact it, proved to be an enormous and very painful ulcer. I did, whilst smoking, have a productive cough but this stopped almost immediately.
I was advised by my GP that when heavy smokers stop smoking, without any nicotine substitute, their immune systems. for a while, becomes compromised and it is for this reason that the ulcers and illnesses occur. As stated, I stopped during the month of October which, with a compromised immune system, was probably the worst month to choose.
Please if you are suffering, do not give up; these awful symptoms do subside. You will be able to laugh heartily without having a coughing fit; your skin and teeth will improve tenfold. Everyone knows about the health values. But for me, I know that I no longer smell.
|Megan Rees 18 January 15
|After 35 years of smoking weed I quit and had numerous symptoms. I had a sore under my tongue right away and had bleeding of the gums for two months. I also had a past back injury flare up and a past ankle injury. I was crippled up for a week or two unable to work or walk even with a cane, but the syptoms went away and I was back to being perfectly fine. I had horrendous and very vivid nightmares that went on for two months. Increased body odor, bad breath and my vagina smelled like male semen when I am celebate. The good news is all of these symptoms did go away, give it about 90 days to clear up, then I have felt better than ever after that.
|Melissa 19 December 14
|I have quit smoking 2 weeks ago from now. I have been getting mouth sores since then. Its like the mouth sores go away after 2-3 days and some others pop up. Have any one felt the same please???
|fox 19 December 14
|Until your body heals.
Good Lack.
|Alexander. 6 December 14
|I stop smoking cold turkey after 25 years and then .... Tree and half yard of Mouth Ulcers !
so i'm back on 5 cigarette a day Ulcers gone completely the same day. i will reedus smoking to 3 - 2 - 1 a day ....
but never again i will stop cold turkey!
don't waste your money on Madison that do not work there isn't any!
i have tried it all including diets
Go back to smoke one a day and stay there.
then divide your cigarette it into 6 puff a day .. smoke inhale only one and cut the cigarette with Scissors
and save it for later.
after one week light up your cigarette and ONLY small it breed the smoke twice.
cut it again and repeat. use only one cigarette a day.
Good Lack.
|Alexander. 6 December 14
|Definitely Sucks getting these sores. One here on the tongue, One there,... then the lip. Err!! All within a week and 2 days after quitting. Hope its temporary.
|Luke 2 December 14
|I have been suffering with mouth ulcers since I gave up smoking in January this year. Alomost nine months now. However, I went to my GP surgery and spoke to a locum. It was suggested I try rinsing my mouth woth 100mg of Doxycycline (dispersible) four times a day for three days ...spit don't swallow cos it's four times the usual daily dose. It really helps. It hasn't got rid of them completely but I get a couple of weeks respite and then they start creeping back. I've used this about four times now. It is such a relief to have no ulcers...even if it's only for a week or two. I'm trialing the same for 6 days to see if it knocks them off for good. Fingers crossed.
|Fiona B 6 October 14
|I posted on 25th November 2013. Glad to see Colin B's post - that's exactly how I'm going about it. The foods are different - in my case its more nuts, dates, (some) deep fried stuff that triggers it, but the reaction is the same. If I stay away from these foods the ulcers keep away. If I take something from this list, it takes a few hours to a day and the mouth starts to feel different. If I eat more from this list it gets worse - all the way to a full-fledged attack of the ulcers.
I have a feeling its more a change in the body because of nicotine withdrawal and not the smoke. There's another post in here where the lady mentions the same thing - if I remember correctly she started using a bit of nicotine every day and that resolved the ulcers.
Until there is a cure, I guess this is the way to go about it. I have one other problem, though. I get bleeding gums. At present its an antibiotic course every few months, but if this doesn't resolve in another couple of years I guess there is a prescribed gum treatment that sounds absolutely ghastly.
|MK London 1 October 14
|I got so many mouth ulcers after giving up smoking, 10 to 20 at a time, more coming before they had cleared, I would not eat or speak, after months of doctors and internals no better off, it got so bad that I gave up and satrted smoking again, after only a few days they were getting better and in a week or so all had all but gone, so I gave up again, this time knowing what was coming, tried every treatment which only worked for a while then got used to it, so I went down to 5 cigs a day, which meant I was getting the ulcers but not as bad but still bad, 3 to 10, so I guessed that the smoke was effecting my mouth - how, it must have been coating or changing the lining, whay, what effect did that have, no doctors new, so I went on a very strict diet, only eating very plain food, and after months of working out what was causing the ulcers have found that for me tomato, peppers, bacon/gammon all cause them, where broccoli, pineapple, corn etc will make them worse, and other foods cause hives, that when eaten togther turn to ulcers, the list I have is larger than shown, what I hope is that in reading this it helps someone else, cutting all but basic food out, until you are ulcer free, then add foods back in,
For me it took over a year of going without foods to test the different results and work out what was causing them, logging everything I ate, tomato as I found out is in so many differnt things you would not think of,
I still get ulcers when I eat the wrong thing, of have a steak that must have been cooked on the same as tomato or gammon, but they do not hurt as much or last as long, and only 1 to 2 at a time,
I hope in reading this it helps someone else,
|Colin B 29 September 14
|Does anyone know if smoking WHILE having a mouth ulcer is safe?
|Paul 10 September 14
|This was such a nasty problem, unbelievable the pain and aggravation!! Ask for that medication in the form of a dental paste, it works over night!!
|ANTHONY D 9 September 14
|ANTHONY D 9 September 14
|i had the same problem when i quit 10 years ago, mouth ulcers so painful, tongue, inside of cheeks/lips, throat, went to many doctors, had blood drawn, cultures of the ulcers, everything you could imagine. sometimes i had up to 40 of them as soon as they would get better, new ones were coming. i started smoking after 5 and 1/2 months of not smoking. now 10 years later i have decided to stop smoking again. i am gonna try weaning myself from cigs, i was a 2 pack a day smoker. for the last week i have smoked under a pack. i know this is the hardest way to quit, but hoping that gradual decrease of nicotine will make my chances of not getting ulcers better. will let everyone know if it works!
|Maria, New Jersey 24 July 14
|These nasty. Canker. Sores are caused by hplori. Infection your stomach gets infected and people. Or doctors didn't.know stomach ulcers that can lead to stomach cancer. You WILL also get canker sores. Read about hplori infection
|Angie tlompson Matthews 21 July 14
|A spoonful of honey has worked for me
|Linda Barker 12 June 14
|Glad to think that i'm not ALONE!! I got very paranoid about this problem and thought I was HIV positive until I get tested and it was negative, but still I got this mouth ulcer again and again!! Thankfully, I read an article saying that you likely to develop mouth ulcer when you quit smoking.. I always used "TAWAS" or "ALUM" it works effectively! But you must take the pain!
|Jhai 14 April 14
|My throat n mouth r killing me! My VOICE Even HURTS!!! Whaaaat? Seriously...quiting 2pack a day habit HURTS!? I have soars all over my throat n mouth n the only reason I am able to bare the pain is I take high doses of pain meds for my arthritis. I can't imagine quiting without pain meds! To all of u out there... ur NOT CRAZY! I have no idea what the big secret is....y don't doctors acknowledge this n help?!
|Sadie 11 March 14
|I have been following this message board for years at the same time have quit four times with same results severe soars no answers ! Some say it's better than cancer , they don't understand the severe pain ,unbearable pain and yes to the point of going mad ! Endless doctors no answers ! I know I've tried as hard as I can but sad to say the smoke gets rid of the soars.
|Kevin 8 March 14
|Doctors have no clue on this I've been to Yale to NYC no answers ,this is my 4 time same insanity five weeks imabout to throw towl in .as far as better than cancer ,wait a few more weeks see how you feel !!
|Dave 4 March 14
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Stopped smoking now for 4 months. I smoked for over 40yrs and I get the mouth ulcers I use warm water and salt to rise out your month.But today I was at Walmart and bought a mouth wash for these ulcers.It is call Orajel Antiseptic Rinse for all mouth sores. It is working and I only rinse twice today and my mouth is feeling great! Try it don't go back to smoking.
|Vickie Guzaldo 5 February 14
|I have not smoked now since October 13 had one mouth ulcer.But I'm still on the e cigarette so perhaps that's why I don't get them??? But my friend dose not have any nicotine replacement and her lips and inside her mouth is coverd.. Why is this??? Can any one answer this please
|Diana osman 1 February 14
|I quit smoking 5 days ago and have a huge sore under my tongue for about 3 days. But somebody on this message board put it beautifully "It's better to have a tongue full of ulcers than a tongue full of cancer" Im hoping some antiseptic mouthwash will get rid of it. Good luck people xoxo
|Bachibawlz 5 January 14
|I suppose the comforting thing is that this looks like a common occurrence! (Fat lot of good in resolution, though..).
I gave up smoking over 3 years ago and used nicotine replacement therapy for about 2 months before quitting nicotine altogether. I have no desire to go back to smoking, but have had this mouth ulcer issue creep up gradually. I don't think I had this problem initially, but its possible that it started soon after stopping nicotine and I didn't notice it until it was really obvious. I know its grown in severity over these 3 years and now is quite severe and always around the corner - clears for 2-3 weeks and then starts again, lasting a couple of weeks too. I'm trying my best to figure out what triggers it. I'm pretty sure nuts and dates (both my all-time favourites) seem to aggravate it.
Mouth washes, bonjela, lozenges and what-not help but not much. I can't wait to have the medical fraternity figure this one out. Its obviously an imbalance created by nicotine cessation. I don't like the idea of using nicotine again as that is the real habit-former and drug in tobacco.
Just be wary of gum disease. I've had one bout which required antibiotic treatment, but I ignored it initially thinking it was part of this mouth ulcer nonsense. So don't sit on this issue (ie bleeding gums).
|MK London UK 25 November 13
|I gave up smoking for 5 years but was plagued the whole time with mouth ulcers I tried everything to get rid of them but nothing worked so I started smoking again and for a year was pain free. I've now stopped again and within 2 weeks I have 5 ulcers and as soon as one goes they are replaced with another somewhere else in the mouth. After a lot of research I have decided to give Nicotine lozenges a try not that I need these to stop smoking but have heard they can work to put the ulcers at bay. I only have 1 or 2 tablets of the lowest strength nicotine and they do seem to work.
|Krystina 4 November 13
|Zhizi - Watermelon Frost is a traditional Chinese treatment that people recommend. As for "western" treatment I'd suggest Oralmedic or Kenacort (triamcinolone acetonide paste) to be the most potent. There are lots of other suggestions here on the board too. Good luck in your search, hope your dad stays off the smokes.
|Dom Walton 24 October 13
|I am a Chinese, I think the medical technology in China is not developed, so I want to look for help from your developed technology. Do you have some useful medicines? Could you please recommend some medicines to me?
|Zhizi 24 October 13
|my dad has the same problem for the last 8 months. He has tried many cures include traditional Chinese herbs, but nothing improved. Now he feels so painful and wants to smok again......so I search the internet...does any one have some effect ways?
|Zhizi 24 October 13
|I really feel that these ulcers are caused by the stress in our lives. Whenever I go on vacation or jump out of routine for a little while, they ALWAYS subside. But, whenever I jump back into routine - they come back. I do have a high demand job and it is very stressful. I have about 3 medium sized ulcers in my mouth right now and it hurts to talk and/or eat. I've tried L-Lysine, mouthwashes (prescribed and OTC), saltwater, etc. Also, there is ONE medication that did help but it costed an arm and a leg (Valtrex). It's made for herpes and I believe that these ulcers are a viral infection that flares with stress. If you think about it, after smoking...you don't feel the effects of stress - many of them a day, and there you go - no effects of stress. So that's probably why we don't get ulcers when smoking.
|Jason 15 October 13
|Plzz Help me i dont want this ulsers ,they are much painfull when i am asleep, i quitted smoking 3 weeks ago. The ulcers are all over my mouth it seems that they gonna cover my lips also. The ulcers in tongue are the most painfull one
|Roshan Daruka (India) 29 September 13
|Further to my message earlier, I have got another doctor's appointment on 10 Oct and I'm going to ask for some possible antibiotics that might prevent these ulcers from coming - I won't leave the doctor's until I get something that hopefully will get rid of them for good.
|Stella 21 September 13
|I stopped smoking just over a year ago and since then I have had constant outbreaks of mouth ulcers, some of them quite large - they are always very very painful especially when eating and drinking or they just sting - it's like chewing hot razer blades!!! They even wake me up in the night because they are stinging!
I have stopped smoking before in the past but after a few weeks I started again because of the ulcers and as soon as I started smoking again the ulcers never came back! This time though I've gone over a year without smoking and I don't want to smoke again but these recurrent mouth ulcers are driving me mad! I went to my doctor a couple of months ago and she had never heard of this happening - she prescribed me with hydrocortisone tablets which she told me to take 4 times a day as soon as I feel a mouth ulcer coming. I still got the ulcers and the tablets stopped them getting worse but they don't prevent them! If I don't take the tablets in time then the ulcers will just get bigger and worse. I have trawled through the internet to look for a prevention of these horrible ulcers but I can't find anything. Even my doctor said I may always get them - annoying when I know I could start smoking again and they will go away!
I definitely don't want to start smoking again.
Does anyone have any advice? (I've tried all the painkilling mouth washes, mouth gels etc etc and nothing eases them - I've tried Bonjela, Anbesol and many others - even tried mouth wash and toothpaste from Holland & Barrett but nothing helps)
|Stella 21 September 13
|Nearly eight months since I gave up smoking, and still getting mouth ulcers. Tried everything but antiseptic mouth wash is the only thing that helps. As time goes on they do do seem to be getting better. Good luck to you all
|Tracey Searle 15 September 13
|I quit smoking about 4 months ago and have recurring mouth ulcers ever since. I'm now taking Folice Acid Tabs and DS-24 Supplements - tried almost everyting on the market for ulcers in my mouth with no luck. Yesterday I found a new one called "Aloclair Gel" will see how it goes with this one, I see that you get it in a mouthwash and a spray as well - on the box it says No Stinging, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Alcohol Free - With Aloe Vera Extract....well hope this will do the trick - Good luck to you guys
|Shalene Fisher 28 August 13
|Every time i quit smoking i get Canker Soars :(. I need help......
|Ex smoker 2 July 13
|My husband smoked for 36 years and used Chantex to finally quit about 4 years ago. Am so proud of him. However the poor thing has been plagued by mouth ulcers ever since. He is constantly spraying his mouth with cloriseptic to numb the pain. He has always said that its because of quitting smoking and I don't want him to go back to the cancer sticks...I'm going to send him to our Dr. And see if he can help him.
|Kim in florida 25 June 13
For this problem try applying coconut oil in the tongue two to three times a day . wash the mouth with salt water before apply oil.Don't allow the mind any excuse to start smoking again...........A MOUTH WITH ULCER IS FAR BETTER THAN A MOUTH WITH CANCER, : )
|mohan 4 June 13
|I sm0ked for a year.alm0st 15cgrts a day,then i left smoking,it's been 6weeks and these m0uth ulcers wont leave me...
it's like out of the frying pan into the stove.
nothing helped,left spicy food,candies,soda,milk. but n0thing happened,i even drank too much water but no effect.even those medicines wont work.
Better live in hell as king rather than a servant in heaven.
i'm gonna start sm0king again!!!
|Sharjeel 12 May 13
|I have to say reading through all these messages,I've laughed and cryed.This is day24 for me giving up smoking and my mouth feels like a lawnmower has had ago at. So glad I read them was just gonna go buy some fags and thought nope I drink a lot of fizzy drink so gonna DRINK WATER HAHA THAT SHIT REALLY WORKS and see what the doctor can give for some pain relief. Will let you know if it works good luck everyone hope all your ulcers disappear. I know I can't wait to eat and be able to enjoy other than my mouth burning like he'll. XXXX
|Lorraine 12 May 13
|At @ 2 weeks without cigarettes, I suddenly had several, painful mouth ulcers under my tongue. Did online research and decided to try l-lysine (OTC amino-acid tablet). The next day, the little ones were gone and the big ones were smaller and less painful. By the second day, they were gone. I continued the l-lysine for a couple of days and have been mouth ulcer free for a week now!
|Tessa 14 April 13
|I olso stop smoking now for five months, and since stop I got these ulcers in my mouth, under my tongue on the side and down the throat on the side of my tongue, can not see it but when I swallow water it hurts and it hurts very much. I ask the doctor for some medication and he prescripe Oracot but I can not use it because it is so far down my throat that I cannot reach there. I have a talk with my sister in South Africa and she ask her Pharmarcy what can she tel me what to use. They said I must get Andolex C or Orachlore an spray in in my mouth and throat. So I am going to get it today and wil let you now if it work or not. They olso said to get Frolic Acid and drink five every morning. I wil olso get that. What I cannot understand is that there is no doctor that can help us.
Wel if some of you want to try that I am going to. Good Luck.
|Juliana 8 February 13
|I quit smoking 3 1/2 years ago and I have had mouth ulcers ever since. I am so tired of them. Yes, they hurt and hurt bad. I have tried mouth washes, changed tooth brushes, stop eating candy etc. but they come back! I have thought about starting back smoking but it was to hard to quit this time. I went to classes and took Chantix. I wonder if Chantix had anything to do with it???? But I will keep trying to do different things, something has to help!
Gwen Feb 2012
|Gwen 4 February 13
|I quit smoking a month ago and have ad canker sores all thru my mouth ever since! I can't stand it, I can hardly talk right, its embarrassing and I am frustrated! I am about to smoke again to get rid of them! I smoked for 30 yes and am really proud to quit! My husband quit with me and he isn't getting the same reactions as me! Ugh!
|karen d 31 January 13
|I'm experiencing the same problem. Been a lil over 3 months and I haven't had one for 12 years I've been smoking but as soon as I quit a couple popped up. I don't have them as consistently and severe as some of you have described but I suppose that explains why I'm having bad quit zits along the jawline to make up for it.
I remember getting them when I was a kid and my mom used to give me this dark green powder that tastes a tad bitter but bearable. I'm usually dab onto the sores right before you I go to bed with a finger or buds right before I go to bed so it has more staying power and I don't lick it off by accident. When I wake up next morning, my sores don't hurt like a bitch as it does usually when u wake up in the morning than throughout the day and it actually feels like its healing. Do it again for the next 2 nights if required and it disappears. I had no idea what it actually is except that my mom buys it from a Chinese medicine store and calls it watermelon powder. Googled and found out that its call Xi Gua (Watermelon) Shuang (Frost). I found a couple of sites online that sells it but not in the traditional powder form but in a mouth spray form. Personally I'm not sure if the mouth sprays work as well but I would buy the powder that come in little plastic tubes/tiny vials. Perhaps they developed the mouth sprays for more convenience throughout the day. I recommend that you get both. This is afterall an aged old remedy. But please give it a go before you pick up another cancer stick guys!
|Shaz 12 January 13
|i had a mouth ulcer to the rear of my mouth and suffer headaches and generally feel tired fatigued, i had anti-biotics and it has cleared i believe the mouth ulcer but still feel terrible, i had all my bloods done at hospital yesterday and come back fine, i had my tonsils removed 3 years ago at 33 and havent been the same since, i no longer smoke and dont drink alcohol that often anymore any suggestions?
|Peter Lee 36 4 January 13
|hello to my fellow mouth ulcer pals i have been of work sick for 7 weeks with mouth ulcers and canker sores and i gave up smoking 3 months ago. When i first quit smoking i took extreme nausea, then a month later along came the mouth ulcers. My doctors told me it was herpes and so treated me with acciclovoir after 6 courses later which have lasted a total of 40 days they have now told me we dont know what it is and so have refferred me on to the rheumatologist my doctor took some bloods and my folic acid and iron in low and so they have commenced me on a course of folic acid and iron supplements and my ulcers have started to clear and feeling a lot better. Then i went to my dentist today and i was informed that when you smoke the lining of skin around your mouth and gums all thickens and toughens as an inflammatorry ressponse to the harmful chemicals in tobacco but when you quit this lining depletes and becomes very thin also when you are low in iron and your vitamin b's and folic acid this can all cause thinning of the linning on your gums mouth and tongue!!
so i hope and pray that by eating a very healthy diet and cutting out maybe on the sugar and crap i will start to feel a lot better and stop taking mouth ulcers i hope this helps someone else!!
|troubled mouth ulcer 21 December 12
|The funny thing is that I was one of the unlucky people who was born with canker sores. I have had them my entire life. It totally sucks. When I started to smoke, they went away. Whenever I try to quit, they come back. It's so hard because I hate the way I feel when I smoke. But the relief from a life of pain in my mouth is just so amazing. I really wish that I could find a way to make these sores go away in a healthy way. I have tried so many things. Nothing has worked.
|Joshua 5 November 12
|makes you want to start smoking again....this hurts...
|amy 6 August 12
|Sad to read so many people suffering the same thing after quitting. I am one of you.... All about the same...
|Ronnie (Singapore) 26 July 12
|Hi guys, helpful to know this is related to quitting smoking and hopefully not something more serious. I didn't smoke cigarettes, smoked a lot of weed, just quit, and a week later, multiple, painful ulcers emerged on my tonsils and under my tongue. Causes a pretty bad sore throat and can even keep me up at night. Worst in the morning, probably after I've been snoring. The only thing I've found helpful is to drink lots of really cold water, that crunchy ice with small bits feels very relieving on the back of my throat. Ice cream and soda help, too, but I don't think consuming lots of sugar is helpful in the long run. I've heard that a lot of the ulcers are caused by yeast infections, which flourish when you eat a lot of sugar.
|TT Austin 14 June 12
|Hi guys,
Glad to know I'm not alone in this. I have quitted smoking near 4 months. Funnily, in the first 2 months, my ulcers were not that bad. But lately I began to get recurring ulcers. The ulcers on tongue hurt the most.
But most importantly, we shall NOT smoke again. We shall win this war.
Smoking sucks!
|Fung 7 June 12
|DRINK WATER!!!! this shit works, I forgot how I went on 'training' and never had a single cigarette, and never got sick for more than one day at a time. IT WAS ALL THE DAMN WATER I WAS DRINKING. drink like 8 20-ounce glasses before going to bed at night. youll wake up to piss a million times but it's a way better alternative to the hellish pain in your mouth.
|MikeO 26 May 12
|Currently, I have more than 50 ulcers in my mouth, cheeks and tongue. The doctor said that it is normal due to the heat and hot weather. But now I understand why, like most of you guys, I just quit smoking!!!damn!!!I am so hungry and thirsty, and whenever i tried to spit it is like that my lips and tongue is being sliced and it burns...
|Abe Lah 27 April 12
|Hey. I have just given up smoking 2 weeks ago and I feel terrible. My mouth has exploded with mouth ulcers, I have counted up to 8 now, plus 5 which have joined together!! The pain is so intense!!
I have been to the doctor who has given me a antibiotic mouth wash, which doesn't seem to be doing much. My mouth and lips are all dry and cracked and I never realised I would have this!! Really gutted as I have finnaly quit after 10 years and now I am faced with this pain everyday :(. Will it ever end...........???
|Thomas s 22 February 12
|I quit smoking three times and would always start again not because I wanted to smoke but because I knew the cigarretes would make my sores go away. I had up to ten sores at a time within a couple weeks of quitting lasting me up to to two months then I started smoking and they disappeared within a week. I have to let you know I have found what works for me right now. I joined a gym and they put me on a really healthy diet of protein light carbs and vegetables. I only drink water. It has been two months with no sores. Basically when I quit smoking change your diet too. No soft drinks, fast food, candy etc. but most of all no spicy foods!!! I would like too see what happens when others try this. Also it gets your body leaned down too so that's a plus. Good luck and trust me this is working for me big time.
|Paul 10 February 12
|Just make sure you drink alot of water and keep you mouth clean
|Josh 16 September 11
|i have suffered with mouth ulcers eveytime i have quit smoking for the past 15 years-i quit for the last time in oct 2010-the mouth sores were unbearable-pressured my doctor for a solution or i would have to start smoking again to keep my sanity-she talked to a ear nose & throat specilist who thinks it is a yeast infection that is kept under control when i smoke-started me on nystatin for 2 weeks to be followed by a special mouthwash for 6 weeks to retrain my mouth-have been on nystatin for 1 week now & mouth seems to be doing well-hope this helps anyone who has suffered like i have-it is a real condition & you are not crazy-good luck
|diane 21 August 11
|i have mouth ulcers 3 years off the cigs my doctor asked was i stressed was i washing my mouth right i believe the mouth ulcers come to the surface due to other health problems ive bowel problems and seens i stopped smoking i have found out i have a heart mumor anyone getting mounth ulcers should start taking there health and life styles much more serious as the damage we dont know or see are beyond the mouth ulcers!!!!!! trust me i know stay away from the cigs and re address your life style.
|sue 10 August 11
|I have been a mouth ulcer sufferer for all my life. Even when i was a child, have tryed all sorts to get rid of them but nothing has worked. I find a lot of things just mask the pain for a little while. Vit B, Vitamin supplements, Mouthwash, Diet change, Salt water washes, baking soda and more nothing seems to work. Have given up smoking for nearly six months and am at the end of the line cant handle the pain any longer and have decided i would rather be a stinky non healthy smoker than live in constant pain.
|Robyn 29 3 August 11
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|I gave up smoking the first time 5 yrs ago and withen a couple of weeks i sufferd with huge mouth ulcers they would start as a sting then start going red then develope into big white ulcer and would take 3wks to clear and by that time another was coming!! they made me feel so ill i couldnt eat sleep or talk! went to my G P several times but wouldnt admitt it was a side affect, tried everything even tried chinese herbel remedy which was like drinking tar!
afer over 3 years of suffering couldnt take no more so stared smoking the odd cig and yes the ulcers went!!
now i dont want to smoke in secret and stopped again and within 2 wks the blinking things are back!!
i know i wont be able to go through that again!
|Eirlys 4 July 11
| myself and my husband give up smoking togather ,its been 4 months now ,he has been suffering with mouth
and troat ulcers and iv been suffering from a horrible taste in my mouth like you would get with reflux .doctor put me on gastric tabs and IBS tabs ,i must say although i feel great this last 2 weeks i still have the strange taste in my mouth ,i believe the yrs of smoking has upset my taste buds ,i smoked menthol cigs, and this time we both quit for good we have had no cravings which is brill, but my poor husband suffering badly with those awfull mouth ulcers .hes taking vitamin b and eating more fruit for vitamin c ,i keep telling him its his brain making him feel poorly so he will go back to smoking ,im sure soon it aill all stop.
|lorraine 16 June 11
|I gave up 20 years ago and started smoking again, using ulcers as an excuse, now £100,000 down the drain on cigs, gave up last week, few mouth ulcers but using red wine to numb the pain, the smoke from cigs kill off the bacteria in your mouth but your body will adjust without them.
|Mark 29 May 11
|Don't do it,don't go back on the ciggs,have you tried takeing vitamin c,the last time I quit my mouth was so bad with ulcers this time I've been takeing vitamin c,I'm still getting mouth ulcers but its not so bad
|sharon 24 May 11
|I quit smoking 5 months ago- I have been the sickest i've ever been in my life since! Within 2 weeks of quitting I had a 'bacteria infection' called Acute Viral Pharangetis- effects the throat, no medication for it-my throat felt like chunks of choppped wood in it- that lasted TWO months, lost a $500 week job, i couldnt talk,- I have had ulcers ever since NOT ONE DAY free, have quit 2 jobs since,it makes you SO frustrated feeling bad so long-to eat,talk,the pain keeps you awake. Been to the E.R. twice, got percaits for pain-took a job moping floors,housekeeeping thinking it would be easier job since i woulndt have to talk as much- done the yougurt,lysine-listerine-etc I'm going back to smoking! this is NOT a life- i quit to be healthier, to feel better! i'll take the earllier death than this constant pain-i have been able to taste/enjoy ONE meal in 4 months- i'm going back to smoking- if that is the only way to STOP this for me!
|pat king 13 May 11
|@Keith thanks for the tip! After several doctor visits with xrays and blood tests, I was diagnosed with GERD
(Gastroesophegal reflux disease) and was told to change my diet and lifestyle completely! The disease was mainly caused by years of smoking but also stress and certain foods play a key role in developing the condition.
It's been a couple of weeks since the diagnosis and all my ulcers have disappeared. I am fighting the disease still and trying to adapt to these new conditions. With no coffee, tea, carbonated drinks, alcohol, tomatoes, oranges, lemons, sugar, processed meat and dairy products, life can seem empty and lonely. But I have had to accept and acknowledge my conditions and at the end of the day I choose to stay ulcer-free and healthy!
Smoking cessation had probably caused a number of blisters in my mouth but it was the acidic food that made them grow back in numbers and cause all the pain!
It isn't just one thing causing the ulcers. Often two or three causes make these conditions almost impossible to control and diagnose. Smoking can mask a problem for a long time and once you quit, they reveal themselves in multitudes.
|Eugene 19 April 11
Thank you for your reply. I have been to serveral doctors and not one of them can agree on a diagnosis. Too bad there isn't a test for Bechets. I personally believe i don't have it even though I do occassionally have genital sores. Who knows what is causing them. I only had them maybe a couple times whereas I have the oral ulcers continuously everyday nonstop for the last 2 yrs. I thought I was doing something good by quiting smoking, I didn't realize the pain it would cause. I just want my life back!!
|Tammy 14 April 11
|Tammy, given you have both oral and genital ulcers, it definitely indicates Bechets and you need to see a doctor for a proper diagnosis.
|Rachel 14 April 11
|I quit smoking almost 2 yrs ago. Like many of you I had mouth sores ocassionallly but 2 weeks after I quit smoking I developed severe mouth sores/ulcers. One will heal 2 will replace it. I currently have 10 sores in my mouth. I can barley eat, drink, or swallow. My doctor says it has nothing to do with quiting smoking which I don't believe. He sent me to a dentist who burned the sores with some knd of acid to try to kill the nerves (which did not work) he then sent me to a dermatalogist who decided I have something called Bechet's Disease he prescribed antibiotics and liquid steroids which didn't work he also sent me to an eye doctor because Bechet's causes blindness... the eye doctor acted as though my dermatalogist was crazy. I have also been to my female doctor because believe it or not having all these sores in my mouth and swallowing excessive amounts of yucky saliva I occasionally develope the same ulcers down below.... that doctor said it was an std...which I know is not possible. But out of all these doctors not one will prescribe a pain killer. I am in sooooo much pain I can barely function to care for my children...
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!
|Tammy 12 April 11
|I've always suffered cankers/mouth ulcers but since quitting smoking i.ve had some of the worst including cold symptoms. my GP gave me a prescription called Oracort. It is pretty amazing stuff! it goes on the ulcer like a paste that sticks to the gum. the pain is immediately subdued and overnight the inflamation reduced by 50%. 2 days and its gone.Listerine is also a great way to kill the bacteria in the mouth and reduce the pain of canker,ulcer sores.smoking acts as antibacterial so listerine or alcohol based rinses can help in replacment. hope this helps.
|Laura 2 April 11
|@Eugene..........I found a cure that has helped me, i have suffered for 5yrs with ulcers and now there all gone, i got a inhaler from my gp. Its to be held in ure mouth and not inhaled, it has a strong steroid in it and kills the ulcers, its called Clenil Modulite 100 (Beclometasone dipropionate). Its working for me, have had no ulcers this 2 mths now and its great. The inhaler is used for asthma but the steroid in it kills the ulcers, try it out
|Keith ruddy 30 March 11
|I quit smoking a month ago and 10 days after I got two huge sores on my throat. It took about 10 days for them to disappear. The pain was indescribable. I couldn't eat, drink, sleep or breath. After that I got multiple sores on my tongue and inside the lips. Not only do they hurt, they are frequently going away and re-appearing on other places on the tongue. I have changed my diet completely avoiding spicy and hot food. I was prescribed antifungal medicine and wash and rinse my mouth with water more than ever with no effects whatsoever. The pain is the worst, and it feels like I have the tonsils of a fire dragon. It burns when I inhale through my mouth and as food passes my tongue. I can't really talk and eating and swallowing is a challenge. During the last couple of days I also experience an excessive amount of saliva in my mouth as if I was having reflux, but I have no heartburns. I was scared it was oral cancer cause my symptoms are very similar but there are no lumps or bleeding from the sores and they last only some days before new ones emerge. I am not sure if anyone can help me reading everybody else's comments here but if any smokers who have experienced the same symptoms and know of a remedy please share them here, it would mean a lot.
|Eugene 26 March 11
|I stopped about 18 months ago and usually get a fresh 2 ulcers every week, doing my head in now.....
Think I should stop eating so many crisps and spicy food, ... then again...mmm chilli crisps,.,., :):) off to the shops now with a bonjela filled mouth.
|Craig 11 March 11
|Me too . . . Last time I remember ever getting a mouth ulcer I was a kid. 4 weeks ago I quit smoking after 10 years. And have developed two of them in the same week. . . . Booo.
|Lucy-Anne 10 March 11
|I just posted a new thread about L-Glutamine powder curing my ulcers. Mine started when I gave up smoking two years ago, and they were HUGE and each one lasted for two or three months. Taking L-Glutamine has completely cured them. I am sooooo happy about it!
|Susan 8 March 11
|I have suffered from recurring mouth ulcers since I was a kid, but they were nowhere near as severe (5mm), and nowhere near as frequent (every week) and nowhere near as numerous (4 at a time) as they have been since I quit smoking 18 months ago. It's doing my head in. The only thing that makes me feel any better about the condition is that many folks on this board are doing it way harder than I am, and I should consider myself lucky.
|Lejuan 5 March 11
|This is so weird!! I quit smoking 3 months ago and have had recurring canker sores and cold sores. I have also had shingles!! Is this really related to quitting smoking and if so when does it stop! I have been sick ever since I quit smoking! I do not want to start again for sure but these canker sores in the bottom of my mouth are killing me and make it very difficult to eat! Help!
|Terry 2 March 11
|I too have the re-ocurring mouth sores, I quit about 5 mouths ago, and yes they hurt a lot. But I wouldn't go back to smoking for a cure.
|Geri 1 March 11
|yep, i quit smoking a month ago and the first two weeks i had mouth ulcers, hell yea now i nknow im gtting healthier
|anthony 26 February 11
|Hey guys, I come from Hong Kong. I have suffered the same cases as yours. I quit smoking almost 2 months, the ulcers have had recurring on my tongue ever since, I did go to clinic almost once a week. Unfortunately nothing has been improved. Can anyone give me some suggestions?
|Ivan 23 February 11
|I also quit smoking about 5 months ago and have had recurring mouth ulcers ever since. I would love any suggestions on how to make it stop that anyone has?!
|Jo 8 October 10
|I quit smoking about 8 months ago and has been having recurring mouth ulcers ever since. I have tried several cures but they don't seem to help. Now I am thinking of using Nicotine Substitutes like Nicotine gum. Any comments from ex-smokers?
|Richard 17 August 10
|GPs have been advised to inform smokers trying to quit that they could develop a cold or mouth ulcers.
The recommendation was made by UK researchers, who provided for the first time clear evidence of a significant increase in cold symptoms and mouth ulcers following smoking cessation (Tobacco Control 2003; 12: 86-88).
Being psychologically prepared for these effects is likely to mitigate their impact on the cessation attempt, the researchers suggested.
The study involved 174 people who smoked at least 10 cigarettes a day for 3 or more years.
Of those who stopped smoking for at least 6 weeks, increases in reports of mouth ulcers and cold symptoms occurred during the first 2 weeks of quitting.
The development of mouth ulcers could be related to the absence of the antibacterial effect of smoking, whereas cold symptoms could be explained by a reduction in salivary immunoglobulin A after quitting, the researchers said.
University of NSW Professor Nicolas Zwar, who has researched smoking cessation in general practice, said mouth ulcers and cold symptoms following smoking cessation were rare, but patients often complained of coughing up mucus.
And trust me it hurts
Reproduced with kind permision from Medical Observer Weekly.
|Dan Dooley 31 May 08
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This is exciting! It's like being in there at the start of Association Football: actually sitting there in the rooms of N.C. Malden when they wrote the first unified footy rules!
Dr Whisky, one of my favourite whisky bloggers, says he was amused enough by the Mizuwari Death Match Challenge to try Johnnie Walker Black in a mizuwari and quite liked it. But this is the bit that got me excited:
"After my recent discovery of just how tasty Johnnie Walker Black is on ice, I hope to be able to do this with the real bottom-end blends. Can you imagine High Commissioner VS The Claymore? I look forward to it..."Bring it on, Dr Whisky! I look forward to reading the latest news from the Scottish cup. The Claymore sounds a formidable foe.
Mizuwari drinking as an international sport! Who would have dreamed it? And then, eventually, we can have an international cyber cup between the current Scottish champion and the Japanese mizuwari king (the judges simultaneously drinking their mizuwaris either side of the world). And we can have all kinds of nit-picking arguments about the international code, about what is and what is not a mizuwari. And then all we need is some Frenchman to name the trophy after and mizuwari-ing will have made the big time. Actually, a Frenchman springs to mind. How does the "Serge Valentin Trophy" sound? Not sure the inestimable Serge over at Whiskyfun.com would dirty his hands with the cheap blends that must go into a mizuwari, but we can dream.
By the way, sorry about the photograph. Couldn't find any more relevant photos of Scotsmen winning the World Cup or even getting beyond the first round. The Japanese have done a bit better but no cups, unfortunately. Casting around desperately for other whisky nations: the Irish? Erm, better than the Scots and the Japanese but, alas, no trophies. The Americans? Canadians? Their cupboards are bare too! So, as an Englishman, I had to go for old Bobby, I'm afraid. Maybe whisky is bad for the footy brain?


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Wanted: 100% Rye Recipe
Hi all
I know this question has been asked many times, but can someone propose a simple 100% rye recipe?
I trade twice weekly at a farmers market and currently bake a 40% rye but have had plenty of requests for a 100% rye. Any suggestions? I would prefer a sourdough rye formula but willing to try a fresh yeast (commercial) version if available. I would prefer to bake the loaf in pans to keep the shape but will also consider a free form loaf, provided it doesn't spread flat before the bake, as is wont with rye dough. I bake in a flat deck electric oven (my main bread oven) but also bake in my fan assisted convection oven. I mix in a commercial spiral mixer and use a prover cabinet to ferment dough at correct temps.
Need a simple recipe that doesn't require a gazillion (that's millions of millions of millions!) of complicated steps. I currently use Hamelmans recipe for all my sourdough bread as well as his baguette recipe, which goes down a hit here in Johannesburg South Africa.


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About DjenneDjenne travel offers the chance to explore an ancient city in Mali that is home to the UNESCO World Heritage Site of the Great Mosque - the largest mud brick building in the world.
AirportsDjenne airports include:
•Senou International Airport
•Mopti Airport
ConservationDjenne conservation is essential in a largely dry area that receives only a few rainy spells per year. In addition to this, the town along with its famous mosque forms part of the UNESCO World Heritage site, with many ancient sites requiring a high level of preservation.
CultureDjenne cultures include:
•Music and dance plays a key role in modern and traditional cultures
•Food and drink are a common part of social gatherings
•Art is an important traditional form of expression
•Tribal traditions and pastimes play a key role in all cultures
•Ancient cultures and history can be seen in the architecture and ruins
HealthDjenne health info for travellers includes the following:
•The most common health risk is travellers tummy from rich foods or tap water
•Health facilities are not easily found in this area
•Pack a basic first aid kit with medication for upset stomachs, nausea and other minor ailments
•Check with your doctor about any health risks or disease outbreaks that may have occurred recently before leaving for your trip
LanguagesDjenne languages include the following:
•Songhay variety called Djenné Chiini
MalariaWhile malaria in Djenne is not a risk, there is malaria risk within other destinations of Africa. Travellers who are visiting malaria-risk countries before or after travelling to Djenne should consider malaria medication.
MoneyDjenne money and banking info is as follows:
•There are no banks or any financial facilities within Djenne
•It is best to be prepared and withdraw money at the airport in Bamako
•Credit cards and debit cards are not accepted either
•Cash in local currency is the only way to purchase items from the market
PeopleDjenne people include the following ethnic groups:
•Fula Macina
PhraseDjenne local phrases in French include the following:
•Do you speak English? - Parlez-vous Anglais?
•I don't understand - Je ne comprends pas
•Hello - Bonjour
•Goodbye - Au revoir
•Thank you - Merci
PlantsAs a largely dry area, Djenne plants are not found in abundance. Occasional trees and scrub, along with grasslands can be found along the floodplain surrounding the rivers, with farmland also found on the outskirts of the town.
ReligionDjenne religion includes the following:
•Traditional beliefs
Safety TipsDjenne safety tips include:
•Djenne is generally safe to visit, with very little crime in the town itself
•The northern areas of Mali are very dangerous with reports of banditry and terrorist attacks
•Avoid travel to Timbuktu, Gao and Kidal, and border areas near Mauritania, Algeria and Niger
•Be wary of con artists when visiting the ruins and other sites
TransportDjenne local transport options include:
Travel BooksDjenne travel books include the following:
•The Masons of Djenne (African Expressive Cultures) by
•Trevor H. J. Marchand
•Lonely Planet West Africa by Tim Bewer, Jean-Bernard Carillet, Paul Clammer and Emilie Filou
•Mali: 3rd Bradt Travel Guide by Ross Velton
•Sahara: The Extraordinary History of the World's Largest Desert by Marq de Villiers and Sheila Hirtle
•Banco: Adobe Mosques of the Inner Niger Delta (Imago Mundi series)
What To BuyWhat to buy for Djenne:
•Backpack plus a decent moneybag
•Mali guide book plus a bird guide
•First aid kit with basic supplies
•Travel kit with toilet paper, wet wipes and bottled water
•Torch with spare batteries
What To PackWhat to pack for Djenne:
•Long-sleeved clothing in neutral colours
•Comfortable walking or hiking shoes
•Camera, batteries, film and binoculars
•Warm top for cooler months
•Sunscreen, sunhat and sunglasses
When To GoBest time to visit Djenne:
•The best months are October to February, when the weather is relatively cool
•December and January are the busiest and most crowded months
•The rainy season from July to September offers the richest vegetation with scattered showers
•March to May is the hottest time to visit, with unbearable temperatures
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Stephen Webb's 'Divine Voice' Wins National Honorsby Howard W. Hewitt • December 7, 2005 Share:
Wabash Professor Stephen Webb was recently honored with a national award for his book, The Divine Voice: Christian Proclamation and the Theology of Sound."
The Religious Communication Association named Webb's book its 2005 Book of the Year. The Association is an academic society founded in 1973 by people interested in public religious communications.
"I was not a member of this organization, so to be honored by them as an outsider, so to speak, was especially pleasing," Webb said.
The book, which has drawn widespread critical acclaim, was called one of the Top Ten Books of 2004 by Christianity Today.
"I have long written extensively in the area of rhetoric, so to be honored by a group of scholars in that field was exciting," Webb said. "Higher education today is so fragmented that teachers often do not read much outside their own narrow fields.
Rhetoric is and should be an interdisciplinary field and the intersection of religion and the history of public speaking is a natural one."
After reading The Divine Voice, Seton Hall University's Thomas Guarino said Webb has a creative and incisive theological mind. "Whether examining Jesus as the voice of the Father, the role of voice in innertrinitarian relations, or the relationship between voice and gender, Webb offers the kind of thought-provoking and highly creative reflections rarely found elsewhere."
Webb traveled Nov. 17 to Boston and attended the Religious Communication Association's banquet. Five professors served on the panel that selected the book of the year.
Webb's latest effort is his essay "Aslan's voice: C.S. Lewis and the Magic of Sound" with is the opening for The Chronicle of Narnia and Philosophy: the Lion, the Witch, and Worldview.
That compilation of essays exploring the moral and philosophical terrain that runs through C.S. Lewis's Narnia series was published by Open Court in advance of the premiere of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe in theaters nationwide.
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Top left: Webb in Wabash classroom.
Lower right: Webb contributed an essay to The Chronicles of Narnia.


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How men can help women
Rosabeth Moss Kanter couldn't contain her smile. "I thought about this question," said Kanter, as she stepped up to the Diana Center's stage for the conference, "Building Partnerships: What Men Can Do To Advance Women's Leadership."
"What can men do?" Kanter asked. She grinned. "The laundry." The crowd erupted in laughter. But she wasn't joking.
"Household division of labor has barely budged in years," said Kanter, a professor at Harvard Business School, and a former editor of the Harvard Business Review. "Women still do a disproportionate share of household and family work." Kanter explained that "to rise in leadership roles, it's important to have time for extras such as special projects, travel, and development programs. So men can help by freeing up their wives' time."
The largest initiative to date of Barnard College's year-old Athena Center for Leadership Studies, the conference drew more than 200 women of all ages, and perhaps two dozen men. The October 5 event sparked much animated discussion, as speakers proposed strategies to improve women's status in the workplace, ranging from flex-time to female role models—as well as relief from the laundry—and some less widely accepted tactics.
In its focus on men, the conference marked a departure from the Athena Center's previous programs, and may be the first time a women's college sponsored an event of this nature. "When you talk to high-level women you realize that they didn't do it on their own. They did it with colleagues, many of whom are men," said Kathryn Kolbert, director of the Athena Center. "We want to give students the tools to excel in a world that includes men."
Nicholas Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, a married couple who won the Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of China for The New York Times, kicked off the event with a presentation on the status of women in developing nations. This keynote was followed by a panel on strategies for advancement in the public sphere, moderated by Marie Wilson, president of the White House Project; a second panel, moderated by Kanter, dealt with lessons learned in the corporate world.
At times, discussion strayed from the overall theme. Kristof, who has won a second Pulitzer for his New York Times columns, and WuDunn, now a business executive, shared heartbreaking anecdotes from their most recent work, Half the Sky: Turning Oppression into Opportunity for Women Worldwide. The pair focused on how Americans of both sexes can further the opportunities of women raised in dire, dismal circumstances - individuals like the Ethiopian girl who gave birth alone in a bush at the age of 14, was left to die by the villagers, but crawled to an American missionary 30 miles away.
The couple urged the audience members, many of them current Barnard students, to consider leaving their comfort zone and inhabit a world unknown to them, whether it's a local prison or an impoverished village across the ocean. They urged the crowd to establish grassroots projects to help the women they encounter in these desperate circumstances, Kristof said, "You can become a happier person, gain perspective, and you can change the world at the margins—a little bit."
An advocate of women's issues for 30 years, Wilson said she's "given up hope on the more traditional ways."
"I've asked women around the world what works, and they say, 'quotas'," Wilson said. She pointed to the transformation in Norway, where 2004 legislation required that 40 percent of corporate boards be composed of women. But Wade Henderson, president of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, and a speaker on the public sector panel, suggested that while "quotas played a significant constructive role in opening up opportunities for women around the world, in the United States they are an anathema for a whole variety of reasons."
Instead, Henderson called for wage transparency. "We need collateral ways of showing inequality, some way of comparing salaries," he said. Several practical solutions were proposed by James Basker, a speaker on the public sector panel who is a professor of English literature at Barnard as well as president of the Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History. Basker spoke of the role of mentors in building female leaders, and the importance of offering flexible schedules, including project-based work that can be done at home.
As a general matter, the corporate panel adopted a more pragmatic, less idealistic approach than the public-sector panel. Two of the three speakers on the corporate panel came from the fast-paced, competitive world of finance, a sector "not known to be warm and fuzzy," in the words of Kanter.
Ravi Singh, a speaker and trustee of the College who is a managing director of Credit Suisse, spoke bluntly of his focus—"making sure the top people stick around," he said, explaining that sometimes that means finding ways to allow employees more time with their families. "Getting talented women in the door is really easy," said Singh. "Keeping them in the door is hard."
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Okay, granted, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is huge weenie. Full stop. (Christopher Hitchens aptly called him a "picknose control freak.") And being a giant weenie comprises all lesser forms of weenieness (weeniedom?) And while John has already take Power Line notice of Bloomberg's silliness, he still deserves to be singled out officially to receive Power Line's coveted Green Weenie Award for his precious endorsement of Barack Obama on the ground that Obama will fix climate change. Most environmentalists don't even believe that any more, and only go along with Obama again because they can't find the Green Party on their ballots.
Apparently Bloomberg hasn't noticed that the Lightworker wasn't able to stop the sea level from rising when it counted. (For his next act, maybe Bloomberg will call for destroying the moon to prevent high tides.) Even better, check out the chart below, assembled from NOAA hurricane data, of the reverse correlation between rising greenhouse gas concentrations and hurricanes making landfall in the U.S. It's the kindof display someone could almost look up and assemble on one of those fancy finance desktop machines that say "Bloomberg" on them. In fact, it kinda looks like a hockey stick in reverse, doesn't it? (Heh.)


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It was a hot summer night in the land of the Forestmen. Despite the heat, there was much activity in the grand capitol city of Delvarden Gard. Their movements were slowed, however, their shapes blurred and indistinct. Through the slews, flatboats rocked as men poled their passengers through the forest city and to the great stone keep of Drullen Bell. Flickering torches lit they way as robed figures prosessed to the council chamber. Representatives from every nation -- even a lone Viking jarl -- entered and sat on the cool circular benches. When all had been seated, a lone figure at the podium stood. His garb was simple: greens and browns. A chain hung from his neck, and a medallian hung from the chain. Embossed was a solitary elk head. The man was old, and he moved not with grace but authority. His eyes passed over the crowd, and he smiled as his recognised many familar faces. The man raised him hands, and perfromed a simple jesture: the Sign of the Elk. This man was Lord Bjarn. He was the leader of the Forestmen, and a well-respected man in Dametreos. Bjarn had organised this meeting for one reason and one reason only.
"Greetings, one and all." Bjarn boomed, "We have come here to discuss something of vital importance to us all."
Greetings, Roleplayers!
Well, I've delayed long enough. I think it's pretty safe to say that our beloved Dametreos is dead, at least roleplaying wise. I think we simply sucked up all the creativity that was in this facinating world. This isn't a bad thing. Our poor, abuse characters can finally get some rest and live happily ever after. But where does that leave us? I know many of you are still eager to roleplay. So I have a proposal for you. We start a new roleplay. New world, new time, new rules, new character, new everything. A clean slate. Here are the basics I thought up so far:
When I mean clean slate, I mean clean slate. This new fantasy land will have nothing to do with Dametreos. There will be no crossovers. No cameo appearances. Nada. This world is not connect to Dametreos, Ikros or any other world. It is alone.
That said, this world will be a lot more flexible that Dametreos was. This world is virgin. There are no preestablished factions. The map is blank. There is no backhistory to memorise. There is no "Mana" magic, "Megabloks" magic or any other predefined magic. There are no predefined countries, no borders.
This is where we roleplayers drop in. When you sign up, you can put your character whereever you want on the blank map. And you can start creating. Towns, nations, magic, continents, islands, whatever. You can ever start your character as a pilgrim, on a boat, arriving in this new land for the first time.
Dametreos was structured. This land is not. Wars will happen. But keep in mind that this world is so large, so unexplored, that world wars simply cannot happen. If you don't like war in your area, move away or do something to stop it.
This land has no name as yet. Along with your other thoughts and comments, feel free to suggest names.
Let the discussion begin!