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Tom and I collaborated on a short story featuring my Chicago cop Jack Daniels and his boxer-slash-social worker Duffy Dombrowski. His latest Duffy novel, The Vegas Knock-Out, is being released today by Thomas & Mercer.
Risk and the Mystery Writer by Tom Schreck
I did and we hit it off. He asked me to send him my manuscript because he wanted to read it, and he did and got right back to me and wrote my very first blurb.
Right there, I knew Joe was not a bullshitter.
I like, thousands of others, have followed this blog for years to stay on the cutting edge of marketing, publishing, and other career stuff. Along the way Joe and I even teamed up and wrote Planter's Punch, where Jack and Duffy meet up to solve a crime. It was a ton of fun.
Since then Joe has, of course, gone on to huge success in many ways.
I just signed with Thomas & Mercer, (Joe was nice enough to write an introductory email for me) and The Vegas Knockout gets released today while Getting Dunn gets released July 31. Before that my series was with Midnight Ink for two books, Echelon for one book, and I self published a collection of short stories.
I've tried to do the things that Joe does with one exception—and it's a big exception. I don't take the level of risk Joe does. I could say we have different temperaments, are in different places in life or, more simply put, that Joe is nuts. I could also add Joe is lucky or Joe came along at the right time. The last two never feel right because I have an idea about how hard he works.
Joe worked as a waiter and wrote all day long when he wasn't working. He had nine unpublished manuscripts. I work a full time job, teach at night, judge professional boxing a dozen times a year and do freelance magazine stuff pretty consistently.
My "regular jobs" limit my writing time. I admit I like the consistent safety of regular paychecks. There's something else that comes with this, though. My "regular jobs" give me the convenient excuse of never totally going for it. I can set mystery writing to the side and say "Well, of course I don't have Konrath's success, he has all day to do this shit!" My other jobs are safe and I don't worry about my mortgage but I don't have Joe's glory…or, now, his checking account.
Joe suggested I self publish my latest two but also said if I wasn't going to do that that the folks at T&M were wonderful and he'd give me a referral. The T&M people ARE wonderful. Self-publishing has risk to it and it was a risk I chose not to take. To do it right with covers, editing etc I figured I would've laid out a few grand and I didn't want to do that. I have the money mind you (after all I work a bunch of jobs, remember) I didn't want to risk it.
So, I'm kind of Joe Konrath lite.
I don't roll the dice too much and so my novel career doesn't keep me up too much at night. Sometimes I wonder what life could be like if I put aside the 9-5 office grind and the 6-9 twice a week teaching gig, skipped magazine writing, and just wrote what I liked.
I'm good for a little more than a book a year, writing in between other things, which is actually a pretty fair pace. I think Joe does a book in a month.
I'm more polite than Joe. I speak my mind less than him and I'm less likely to enter a hotel bar in a bathrobe at a Bouchercon. Probably all has something to do with risk.
There's also another intangible and again, it's an important one—talent. Even if I took the chances Joe did there's far from any guarantee I would have the same success.
Finding that out would involve taking some risks.
And that's something I have to take a closer look at it.
Real soon.
Tom Schreck writes the Duffy Dombrowski Mysteries and his newest release THE VEGAS KNOCKOUT, is now available. Visit www.tomschreck.com and "like" his fan page on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/DuffyDombrowski for a chance to win a Kindle Fire.
Joe sez: First of all, go and buy The Vegas Knockout. Shreck writes with the kind of easy-going style as Robert B Parker or early Robert Crais (more contemporary comparisons would be Jeff Shelby, Jude Hardin, Harry Hunsicker.) Tight and fun, with some action and some laughs at the heart of the mystery.
I think Tom brings up an interesting point about risk-taking that's worth exploring. I tend to seek out creative people, and my close circle of friends all tend to be artists of some sort. But my writing peers, the ones I seem to talk with most often, have another commonality.
Both Ann Voss Peterson and Blake Crouch began to self-publish full time with no guarantee they'd make it. Barry Eisler turned down a half a million dollar deal to go it alone. These are gutsy people who took big chances. With Blake and Barry, it paid of big time. With Ann, it's paying off at a steadier pace.
They all should be commended for taking a shot. It ain't easy. They fought self-doubt, worry, and fear, and they went for it anyway.
I started this blog seven years ago, and I've long preached that is important to take chances, to experiment, to try new things. I'm also a believer in going all-in. This isn't a Newbie's Guide to Leading a Balanced and Happy Life. It's A Newbie's Guide to Publishing. If you want to get lucky, you have to gamble first.
Gambling in this case means devoting time and effort to something that may never pay off. It means devoting your energy to something beyond what the world says you should be doing.
This isn't simply following your dream. It's chasing after it, full speed, until you catch it.
We're all, to a certain degree, risk-averse. It's scary to fail. Failure can mean a loss of time and money. It can mean bad feelings and disappointing others.
But if you aren't failing, you aren't trying hard enough. You aren't taking enough chances.
A lot of people dislike me. They dislike my tone and attitude. They dislike my opinions. They dislike my writing. They dislike my blog.
I. Don't. Care.
We could all benefit from caring less about the opinions of strangers. Especially since, let's face it, there are so many pinheads in the world.
That's a learned behavior, as we all grow up seeking approval.
Taking risks can also be learned.
It'll be difficult, because it is unnatural and uncomfortable. It requires unlearning many of the coping mechanisms you've learned. It requires failure, and in many cases ridicule, monetary loss, and depression.
But no one ever became successful without taking chances. If you think about it, many of the important things in your life--the things that you're proudest of and that define you--are all about taking risks. Things as ordinary as asking or agreeing to a date that ends up in a long term relationship. Going to that job interview. Making an offer on that house.
Self-publishing that novel.
Risks are risky. True. But they can also be rewarding.
So what chances have you taken today?


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While upgrading to Windows 8.1 is proving trouble-free for most users, Microsoft seems to have gone out of its way to make a few upgrade types difficult or impossible. For example, it's not possible to install Windows 8.1 using a Windows 8 product key, which makes no sense at all. Worse, Microsoft is punishing its most loyal users by refusing to provide a downloadable install set in the form of an ISO or similar archive, which would enable users to install or upgrade to the OS multiple times with just a single download. Why make life so difficult, Microsoft?
Neither of these issues makes any sense at all.
If you bought Windows 8 in any way—as an upgrade from a previous version using retail or electronic media, as a full install electronically or retail, or with a new PC, you can get Windows 8.1 for free. So why wouldn't every single Windows 8 product key out there work with every single Windows 8.1 installer?
Consider the following: You as an individual may want to upgrade a single Windows 8 PC to Windows 8.1. So using the normal electronic upgrade process isn't particularly onerous, as outlined in my post Windows 8.1 Upgrade: Step-By-Step: Yes, you have to make a 2 GB to 3.6 GB download, depending on which version of Windows 8 (or RT) you're currently using, but you only have to do it once, and depending on your connection speed, the whole thing should take under an hour.
But what about the guy with 2, 3, 5 or more PCs to upgrade? In places where downloading is slow or expensive, asking such a person to redundantly download exactly the same code over and over again is a bit much. But that's exactly what Microsoft does.
What's interesting about this is that Microsoft offers a Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant which, like its predecessors, lets you create DVD- or USB-based install media. You just need to enter a valid product key to use it. A valid Windows 8.1 (not Windows 8) product key.
Likewise, a separate online tool, aimed specifically at those with product keys, is designed specifically for those who wish to download ISOs. But you must have a valid Windows 8.1 key to download a Windows 8.1 ISO.
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On a related note, Microsoft does make Windows 8.1 ISOs available via TechNet, MSDN, Volume Licensing, and perhaps other outlets. I've only tested the TechNet version—I pay for that subscription—and while you can in fact activate a TechNet-based Windows 8.1 install with a retail Windows 8 product key, you cannot in fact trigger Setup with such a key; you must instead use your TechNet key. (You can install Windows 8.1 offline and then change the key after the install is complete.) This suggest to me that making retail ISOs available to the public would be very simple. What I can't explain is why they won't do that.
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CAMAUSA User Group
The CAMAUSA User Group currently has 34 counties using the Xerox CAMAUSA software. This committee has been working together for many years. In 2009, they became a separate user group rather than a subcommittee under the Tax User Group. The CAMAUSA User Group members use either the Xerox or Thomson Tax Systems. The MnCCC CAMAUSA User Group works closely with the Minnesota Department of Revenue on all of our projects.
Community Health Services Group (CHS)
The Community Health Services Group (CHS) currently has 35 member counties and agencies. The MnCCC CHS User Group owns and manages PH-Doc. Over the past several years, the user group has invested time and money in a major rewrite of PH-Doc. We were a recipient of the Beacon Grant through a partnership with the Mayo Clinic. The CHS group works closely with the Minnesota Department of Health on all of our projects.
Corrections User Group
The Corrections User Group is MnCCC's largest user group working with all 87 Minnesota counties either directly or through agencies and the Department of Corrections. The Corrections User Group developed and maintains the Court Services Tracking System (CSTS) software, which is used by probation and parole officers throughout the state.
County Attorney User Group
The County Attorney User Group owns and manages the MCAPS software package, a case management system designed for county attorneys. MCAPS 4 is our newest version of MCAPS. MCAPS is currently linked with MNCIS and we will be expanding the software to link with other systems.
Finance & General Government (F&GG) User Group
The Finance & General Government (F&GG) User Group has 47 member counties. The User Group has several software packages, including: Two payroll packages, a human resources package, Capital Assets, Integrated Financial System (IFS), and Treasurer's Financial System.
Information Services Support Group (ISSG)
MnCCC's Information Services Support Group (ISSG) members are IT, MIS, IS managers and staff throughout the state. This group provides an amazing pool of resources! We share knowledge, assist each other on software and hardware challenges, and work together to find cooperative solutions.
JIC Committee
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Law Enforcement User Group
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Property Information User Group (PIUG)
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Thomson Reuters Tax System User Group
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Hale-Bopp Observations with Hubble and IUE Surprise Astronomers
Completing an unprecedented yearlong study of Comet Hale-Bopp with two NASA observatories, including the Hubble telescope, astronomers report that they are surprised to find that the different ices in the nucleus seem to be isolated from each other. They also have seen unexpectedly brief and intense bursts of activity from the nucleus during the monitoring period. The Hubble observations suggest that the nucleus is huge, 19 to 25 miles (30 to 40 kilometers) across.
Here are a series of Hubble telescope observations of the region around the nucleus of Hale-Bopp, taken on eight different dates since September 1995. They chronicle changes in the evolution of the nucleus as it moves ever closer to, and is warmed by, the Sun.
Hubble Images of Comet Hale-Bopp
Completing an unprecedented year-long study of Comet Hale-Bopp using two NASA observatories, the Hubble Space Telescope and the International Ultraviolet Explorer, astronomers report that they are surprised to find that the different ices in the nucleus seem to be isolated from each other. They also report seeing unexpectedly brief and intense bursts of activity from the nucleus during the monitoring period. The Hubble observations suggest that the nucleus is huge, 19 to 25 miles (30 to 40 kilometers) across.
The findings, by a team of scientists, led by Johns Hopkins astrophysicist Harold Weaver, are being published in the March 28 issue of the journal Science.
"Hale-Bopp will probably provide the most revealing portrait of the workings of a cometary nucleus since the spacecraft missions to comet Halley in 1986," said Weaver. "This is a unique opportunity; we have never had the chance to examine a comet in this much detail, over this large a range of distance from the Sun."
The key results:
Violent Eruptions on the Comet's Surface
During the course of long-term observations, which began in August 1995, astronomers unexpectedly caught the comet going through a sudden brief outburst, where, in little more than an hour, the amount of dust being spewed from the nucleus increased at least eight-fold. "The surface of Hale-Bopp's nucleus must be an incredibly dynamic place, with `vents' being turned on and off as new patches of icy material are rotated into sunlight for the first time," Weaver said.
A Complex, Mottled Nucleus
To their surprise, astronomers found that water ice sublimates (turns directly from a frozen solid into a gas) at a different rate than the trace ices, implying that those components are not contained within the water on the comet. This conclusion is further supported by Hubble data showing that the rate at which dust left the nucleus was much different than the sublimation rate of water. This result is contrary to previous models for a comet's nucleus which suggest that the trace components, such as carbon disulfide ice, are contained inside of the most abundant ice on the comet, frozen water. As water sublimates the trace components and dust should be released at similar rates, but this is not what Hubble observed.
A Monstrous Nucleus
By studying Hubble Space Telescope images, the astronomers have estimated that its nucleus may be about 19 to 25 miles (30 to 40 kilometers) in diameter. The average comet is thought to have a nucleus of about 3 miles (5 kilometers) in diameter, or even smaller. The comet or asteroid that struck the Earth 65 million years ago, possibly causing the extinction of the dinosaurs, was probably about 6 to 9 miles (10 to 15 kilometers) across.
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"My family and I took a view and we're sticking by it," Morris told the Associated Press this week, adding that his daughters are now members of a group for conservative Christian girls. "My girls are no longer Girl Scouts. They're now going to join American Heritage Girls."
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until Jan. 15
Late season archery hunters have until Jan. 15 to hunt deer, and new this season is an opportunity to harvest an antlered deer Jan. 1-15, a period that previously limited hunters to antlerless deer hunting only.
"This is an exciting time for archery hunters because many of them may not realize they can now harvest a buck during the Jan. 1-15 portion of archery season," said Alan Peoples, chief of wildlife for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. "Deer are really focusing on food sources now, so that can help archers pattern deer."
Along with the additional buck hunting days comes a change to the archery season harvest limit. Hunters can now harvest their full combined season limit of six deer during archery season, of which no more than two may be antlered deer.
Other increased archery hunting opportunities have been added in recent years as well, such as one added in 2003 that removed the closure of archery season during deer gun season. Before that, hunters could harvest deer with a bow during deer gun season, but they had to purchase a deer gun license before hunting.
To hunt deer Jan. 1-15, 2009, all hunters must possess a valid 2009 hunting license and legacy permit as well as a 2009 deer archery license for each deer hunted, unless otherwise exempt. These annual licenses are valid from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31. Deer taken Jan. 1-15, 2009 count toward a hunter's 2008 combined season limit.
To learn more about deer hunting in Oklahoma, log on to wildlifedepartment.com or consult a copy of the current "Oklahoma Hunting Guide."
H&H Gun Range to host free hunter education instructor workshops
Sportsmen who want to pass on the tradition of hunting have an opportunity to educate the next generation of hunters.
The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation has announced the dates for its 2009 hunter education workshops to be held free of charge at H&H Gun Range Shooting Sports Outlet in Oklahoma City.
"Volunteer instructors are crucial to the success of our hunter education classes statewide," said Lance Meek, hunter education coordinator for the Wildlife Department. "We also rely heavily on our partners like H&H. We couldn't get hunter education done without the involvement of our community."
Miles Hall, founder of H&H Gun Range Shooting Sports Outlet, looks forward to hosting the workshops and adding to the number of Oklahoma hunters.
"Having helped teach thousands of hunters in the past, we're looking to build our base of instructors in anticipation of teaching thousands more," Hall said.
Volunteer instructors teach and assist in numerous classes throughout the state each year, making hunter education more readily available for more Oklahomans. Volunteers help set up and teach classes, assist other instructors and represent the Wildlife Department and sportsmen of the state.
Annually, the Wildlife Department certifies approximately 15,000 new sportsmen and women to enjoy Oklahoma's great hunting opportunities.
According to Meek, the most important quality for a volunteer instructor is to be a safe and ethical hunter, but there are also a few steps to becoming certified, such as attending a workshop and receiving a background check.
"Now is a good time of the year to start the process of becoming a hunter education instructor," Meek said. "There is plenty of time to work through the process of becoming an instructor before our busiest time of year in the Fall, and there is time to gain confidence and learn everything you need to know to teach hunter education."
Workshops are scheduled for Feb. 7, June 13, Aug. 8, and Dec. 12, 2009, at H&H Gun Range, located at the I-40 and Meridian area in Oklahoma City (400 S. Vermont, Suite 110).
For more information about hunter education in Oklahoma, log on to wildlifedepartment.com.
Trout angling offers cure for cabin fever
Despite some especially cold days during December that brought single digit temperatures to parts of the state, Oklahoma also has been experiencing periods of unseasonably warm weather, driving sportsmen to break their cabin fever and head for the outdoors. Trout angling at one of Oklahoma's eight designated trout waters may be just the cure for too much time spent inside.
Matt Gamble, south central region fisheries biologist for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, said he noted heavy trout angling activity after the season first started Nov. 1 where he is stationed at the Blue River Public Fishing and Hunting Area. He said he also expects activity to continue picking up.
"Wintertime trout fishing really offers Oklahomans a unique outdoor getaway," Gamble said. "Trout do well in Oklahoma waters and really make for an exciting way to fish. They put up a good fight, and both kids and adults enjoy the challenge."
According to Gamble, good weather is a plus as well.
"When you get a really nice winter day like we have been having lately, trout fishing just doesn't get much better or more fun."
Wintertime trout fishing is available from Nov. 1 through March 31 at Blue River PF&HA, Lake Pawhuska, Robbers Cave, Lake Watonga, Quartz Mountain and Lake Carl Etling. Additionally, the Wildlife Department manages year-round trout fisheries in the Lower Illinois River from Tenkiller Dam to the Hwy 64 bridge near Gore and in a 12-mile stretch of the Lower Mountain Fork River from the Broken Bow Lake spillway downstream to the U.S. Hwy 70 bridge (of which about five miles lies with Beaver's Bend State Park).
Trout anglers must possess an appropriate fishing license and a legacy permit as well as a $10 trout license ($5 for youth 17 and under).
For more information on trout fishing, or for descriptions and regulations pertaining to Oklahoma's designated trout waters, log on to wildlifedepartment.com or consult the current "Oklahoma Fishing Guide."
More than
4,000 paddlefish cleaned for anglers at new center
Oklahomans enjoy the finest paddlefish angling in the nation, and in doing so they not only are catching thousands of fish each year, but they are also contributing to science and funding their own sport through the paddlefish research and processing center.
At its January meeting, the Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission heard a presentation from Keith Green, paddlefish program coordinator for the Wildlife Department, and Brent Gordon, northeast region fisheries supervisor for the Department, recounting the success of the first year of the Department's paddlefish research and processing center.
In February 2008, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation opened the center at Twin Bridges State Park near Miami in far northeast Oklahoma. The center collected important biological data, processed paddlefish fillets for anglers and salvaged paddlefish eggs.
Over 4,000 fish were brought to the paddlefish research and processing center by anglers, where their fish were professionally cleaned and packaged. Workers at the center salvaged eggs from female fish to sell as caviar. More than 8,000 lbs. of eggs were salvaged, and income derived from the program is being used to fund continued paddlefish research and improve angler access. Oklahoma paddlefish caviar was dispersed throughout Europe and Asia, and after the critical biological data was recorded from each fish, more than 45 tons of paddlefish carcasses were recycled into a natural source of heating oil.
Most importantly, the Wildlife Department was able to gather large quantities of useful data for managing paddlefish in Oklahoma. Certain types of biological data can only be collected once the fish is dead. Prior to the opening of the research and processing center, the Department had only collected information from 240 fish since the late 1970s. The research and processing center makes it possible to collect data from thousands of fish that are already being harvested by anglers. In just a few months, biologists found themselves years ahead of where they were in terms of researching and managing the species.
"We get the information we need for management, anglers get the meat from their fish, fish carcasses are used as a natural source of heating fuel, and the salvaged eggs are sold to pay for continued management of the resource," Green said.
During 2008, the Wildlife Department was able to gather age and growth data on paddlefish and get an accurate picture of the total harvest. Additionally, biologists recorded a day-by-day documentation of the annual paddlefish spawn for the first time. Information gathered during the spawning season can be compared with future spawning runs to better understand how these unique fish relate to their habitat, including water temperature and flow.
The success of the paddlefish research and processing center has led the agency to design plans for building a permanent center in 2009 at Twin Bridges on the Neosho River, and the program will be expanded to include Fort Gibson Lake in 2010.
The center is open during prime paddlefish snagging months (approximately Feb. 15 – May 15), and anglers can bring their catch to the center for cleaning and processing. Additionally, anglers such as those fishing at Miami's Riverview City Park also can call the paddlefish processing center to come pick up their paddlefish for processing. Anglers who take advantage of the service will take home meat from their own fish that has been safely cleaned and packaged.
The paddlefish research center is seasonally staffed by employees trained in proper handling and processing of fish products.
Paddlefish anglers are required to obtain a free paddlefish permit before fishing for paddlefish in Oklahoma. Each angler that obtains the permit will be assigned a number that must be attached to all paddlefish that are caught and kept. The permit system will provide clearer information about paddlefish anglers and help better manage paddlefish populations. The permit is annual, and the permit number can be used on every paddlefish tagged during that period. Permits can be obtained online at wildlifedepartment.com.
The Commission also heard a presentation from Rhonda Hurst, Expo coordinator for the Wildlife Department, on the success of the 2008 Oklahoma Wildlife Expo. The Wildlife Expo is a hands-on recreational and educational event. Wildlife Department employees and over 1,000 volunteers and partners come together to make the event happen.
"The Expo has become the largest outdoor recreation event in the state of Oklahoma, and this year was no exception." Hurst said. "The Expo brought visitors from every county in Oklahoma, 12 other states and as far away as Alberta, Canada."
A survey used by the Wildlife Department to gain information about Expo attendance indicated that 66 percent of the Expo visitors were first-time attendees.
"It's evident that, after four years, the Expo is still reaching a significant number of new people every year," Hurst said.
Those new people could also equate to new hunters and anglers, according to surveys. Of those surveyed who were not licensed to hunt or fish, 26 percent said they intended to purchase a hunting license and 45 percent said they intended to purchase a fishing license after attending the Expo.
Hurst reported that the Expo's first ever "school day," held Friday during Expo, drew over 4,200 students and over 1,000 teachers and sponsors from 79 different schools, including schools as far away as Valliant in McCurtain Co. and Hardesty schools in the Panhandle's Texas County.
At the 2008 Expo, guests were able to shop for outdoor goods and services at the Outdoor Marketplace for the second year in a row, and visitors were able to try a number of hands-on activities. About 2,500 lbs. of catfish were stocked in the pond for fishing opportunities, 7,000 Dutch oven food samples were served to guests, 375 blue bird houses were built, 27,500 shotgun shells were shot, and thousands of pounds of game meat were served to visitors at the popular Taste of the Wild booth.
In other business, the Commission accepted a donation of $1,050 from the Dillingham Ranch and the Bank of Oklahoma to purchase equipment and supplies for the Department's Shotgun Training and Education Program (STEP).
Lance Robnett with Bank of Oklahoma said it was "a pleasure" for the two groups to be able to make a donation to STEP.
"It's great to have a program that teaches kids and new shooters the right way to handle firearms," Robnett said. "I know that my best memories are out in the field with my dad, and I'm working on creating some of those memories with my kids as well. I know the money will be put to good use."
Although special emphasis is put on teaching basic wing-shooting techniques and fundamentals, STEP is also geared toward recruiting new hunters, providing shooting experience for Hunter Education students, promoting safe gun handling, and educating hunters about nontoxic shot shell technology.
The STEP program has over 100 certified instructors that can run a shooting course, and they provide around 100 programs a year. Attended by around 16,000 participants a year, youth make up approximately 63 percent of attendees, while females account for about 23 percent.
The Commission also recognized Jimmie Henthorn, game warden supervisor for the Wildlife Department, for 35 years of service, and Charles Cowell, data analyst and programmer for the Department, for 20 years.
The Wildlife Conservation Commission is the eight-member governing board of the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. The Wildlife Commission establishes state hunting and fishing regulations, sets policy for the Wildlife Department and indirectly oversees all state fish and wildlife conservation activities. Commission members are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Senate.
The next scheduled Commission meeting is set for 9 a.m. Feb. 2 at the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation headquarters (auditorium), located at the southwest corner of 18th and North Lincoln, Oklahoma City.
Hunters not waiting on fair weather
With several open hunting seasons and some good fishing to be had statewide, most outdoorsman know this is no time to be suffering from cabin fever. It's time to be in the field and on the water.
Even though several major fall hunting seasons have come and gone, there are still opportunities to go hunting right now in Oklahoma including deer and turkey archery, quail, pheasant, rabbit, squirrel, furbearer and waterfowl. There also are hunting seasons for other species that are open year-round.
"This is not the time to pack away all your gear until spring," said Bill Dinkines, assistant chief of wildlife for the Wildlife Department. "Instead, it's a great time to get out and enjoy some of the diverse hunting Oklahoma has to offer."
Oklahomans don't have to look far for a place to hunt during the late season, either. The Wildlife Department maintains wildlife management areas in every part of the state that are open to public hunting. Each one is detailed on the Wildlife Department's Web site at www.wildlifedepartment.com Seasons on public lands may vary from statewide seasons, and hunters should consult the current "Oklahoma Hunting Guide" or www.wildlifedepartment.com before going afield.
Open seasons at a glance
Deer archery – either sex through Jan. 15
Turkey fall archery – through Jan. 15
Squirrel – through Jan. 31
Furbearer – through Jan. 31 (bobcat through Feb. 28)
Pheasant – through Jan. 31
Quail – through Feb. 15
Rabbit – through March 15
Ducks, mergansers and coots – Zone 1 through Jan. 18; Zone 2 through Jan. 25
(Pintail/Canvasback – Zone 2 through Jan. 25)
Canada geese – through Feb. 15
White-fronted geese – through Feb. 6
Light geese (snow, blue and Ross') – through Feb. 15
(Conservation Order Light Goose Season – Feb. 16 - March 31, 2009)
Sandhill crane – through Jan. 25 (west of I-35 only)
Eagles offer outdoor show to wildlife enthusiasts
Seventeen locations all across the state offer more than 50 opportunities to see the nation's emblem in the wild.
As lakes in the northern U.S. and Midwest freeze, eagles migrate south to find open water and food. Oklahoma has more miles of shoreline than the east and west coasts combined, and the amount of water in Oklahoma makes it one of the top 10 states in the nation for winter eagle viewing.
"During the winter, Oklahoma is host to anywhere from 700 to 1,500 eagles that migrate in from the northern states and Canada," said Lesley McNeff, wildlife diversity information specialist for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. "The numbers peak in January and February, with the highest concentration of birds located at lakes. Popular viewing sites include Kaw, Texoma, Tenkiller, Ft. Gibson, Grand, Canton and Great Salt Plains reservoirs. Oklahoma also has over 120 bald eagles that live here year-round, including nearly 60 known breeding pairs."
McNeff said that the George M. Sutton Avian Research Center, with assistance from the Department's Wildlife Diversity Program, began an initiative in the mid 1980s to restore breeding eagle populations in Oklahoma and other southeastern states. Between 1985 and 1991 nearly 100 eaglets were released in eastern Oklahoma, including 59 birds in 1990 alone.
Biologists transported eggs from Florida bald eagle nests to the Sutton Center in Bartlesville. Nine to 10 weeks after hatching, the young eagles were placed in hacking towers and eventually released into the wild with the hopes that they would return as adults and raise their young in the state.
Since those efforts, bald eagle populations in Oklahoma have increased each year. While no pairs of nesting eagles existed in the state in 1990, Oklahoma currently has nearly 60 nesting pairs.
Eagle watches are hosted by state parks, lake management offices, national wildlife refuges and local Audubon Society chapters. Event activities will vary, but most events are free. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation annually compiles a list of events to help Oklahomans discover where to view this majestic bird. For more information or to view the list, log on to www.wildlifedepartment.com
Spotted bass length and daily limits eliminated for Oklahoma anglers
Slot limits, daily harvest limits and "catch and release" angling have long been important elements of developing good black bass fisheries, but a new regulation change for 2009 encourages anglers to keep and eat as many spotted bass as they can.
The new regulation is highlighted in the "2009 Oklahoma Fishing Guide," a free, full-color publication of the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. The guide is available now and is hitting shelves at fishing and hunting license dealers across the state.
According to biologists with the Department, spotted bass populations in most reservoirs are overabundant and slow growing, seldom providing quality bass fishing and using forage that could be better utilized by the more desirable predators such as largemouth and smallmouth bass, striped bass hybrids and walleye/saugeye. Exempting spotted bass from length limits and increasing the daily limit is intended to encourage more harvest of these fish as well as reduce competition for forage among other predators, improve overall fishing quality and remind anglers that harvest is a necessary component of a healthy fishery.
Keith Thomas, fisheries biologist for the Wildlife Department, said the regulation change is a good thing for anglers looking to fill their stringer.
"Here's a great opportunity for folks to load up the ice chest and have a great shore lunch or fish fry," Thomas said. "These fish school in large numbers, so once you locate them you'll usually catch a good mess of them just like you would while crappie fishing."
Thomas said spotted bass may not be as big as some largemouth bass, but the fact that the statewide limit has been lifted except in a few certain areas means you can harvest more of them for the dinner table.
"To locate them, fish off of rocky points with steep drop offs," Thomas said. "Use crayfish, minnows, small curly-tail grubs and small deep diving crankbaits.'"
Thomas said the nicknames and even the scientific name for the fish — Micropterus punctulatus — lend some insight into distinguishing spotted bass from other black bass.
"Spotted bass are also called 'Kentucky bass,' 'spots' and 'diamond bass,'" he said. "The scientific name translates to 'small-finned and dotted.' You can look at the belly scales and most will have a dark green or black spot. Smallmouth bass and largemouth bass will have very few or no spots."
For legal identification purposes, a spotted bass is any black bass, except for smallmouth, having a rough tongue patch.
Thomas' advice to anglers is simple.
"Anglers, help improve fishing at your favorite lake and harvest some spotted bass," Thomas said.
The "2009 Oklahoma Fishing Guide" details special regulation areas where the regulation change may not apply. It also outlines other new regulation changes for 2009. In addition, it includes a full listing of all fishing regulations for Oklahoma as well as a wide range of fishing-related articles and other helpful information such as contacts for Department lakes, "Close to Home" fishing locations, game warden phone numbers, license fees and fish identification tips.
Anglers also can find the "2009 Oklahoma Fishing Guide" and buy fishing licenses online by logging on to wildlifedepartment.com. The Web site provides a weekly fishing report where anglers can find out how some of the state's most popular game fish are biting and what baits are working best at different fishing locations. Compiled by Wildlife Department personnel and independent reporters, the reports even include techniques and locations to increase angler success. The weekly fishing report can be received weekly by e-mail, along with other wildlife news from the Department. To sign up for the free weekly e-mail, log on to http://www.wildlifedepartment.com
Celebrate Oklahoma's mule deer with 2009 habitat donor patch
Few images are more stunning to an Oklahoma hunter than that of a whitetail buck, but many may not realize that the mule deer also calls Oklahoma home. And its stunning features are being celebrated this year on the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation's 2009 habitat donor patch, available now through the Wildlife Department's Outdoor Store at wildlifedepartment.com.
Much less common in Oklahoma than the whitetail, the mule deer is characterized by its large, "mule-like" ears and cream-colored tail with a black tip. Additionally, mule deer bucks like the one featured on the 2009 habitat donor patch have antlers with forked main beams that are branched equally. The mule deer typically weighs more than the whitetail.
Hunters along Oklahoma's far western border and Panhandle areas are most likely to get a glimpse of a mule deer, as they do not inhabit central or eastern portions of the state. Mule deer are attracted to grasslands, plains, foothills and river bottom habitat in addition to forests, desert shrubs and thickets of shrub trees.
"By purchasing a $10 habitat donor patch, buyers help provide public land access for the future," said Melinda Sturgess-Streich, assistant director of administration for the Wildlife Department. "One purchase may not seem like much, but that purchase is pooled with those of all other outdoor enthusiasts, and it can really add up. With public land access becoming more important over time, this really is a program sportsmen can feel good about supporting."
To purchase a donor patch, visit the Department's Outdoor Store by logging on to wildlifedepartment.com. Caps featuring the habitat donor patch also are available for $15. Outdoor Store order forms also can be found in copies of Outdoor Oklahoma magazine. Additionally, patches can be purchased at the Wildlife Department headquarters in Oklahoma City.
All proceeds go to the Department's Land Acquisition Fund, which is used to provide public hunting and fishing access. This program has helped the Wildlife Department make available over 300,000 acres of land for public hunting and fishing. To view the new patches and those from previous years, log on to the Department's Web site at http://www.wildlifedepartment.com
The colorful patches have displayed a different game or fish species every year since 1986, and collectors can purchase a patch from any year.
For more information about the Wildlife Department, log on to wildlifedepartment.com.
Outdoor Oklahoma readers' photos wanted for special summer issue
Every year, Oklahoma's outdoor enthusiasts have a chance to see their own digital photos in print in Outdoor Oklahoma magazine's "Readers' Photography Showcase" issue, and now is the time to submit entries.
Submissions are being accepted through March 31, and winners will have their work featured in the July/August 2009 issue of Outdoor Oklahoma.
The special summer issue gives both professional and amateur photographers the chance to have their digital photos displayed in a magazine nationally recognized for its photography.
"Oklahoma is home to many great outdoor opportunities, and photography is certainly growing in popularity," said Nels Rodefeld, editor of Outdoor Oklahoma. "We look forward to working on the Readers' Photography Showcase issue because we get to see so many great outdoor images. It seems to get harder every year to make the final selections."
Each participant may submit up to five digital images. Each submission must include a description of the photo, including the location taken, names and hometowns of subjects and what it took to get just the right shot. Photos should be in sharp focus, and images should be at least 300 dpi (dots per inch). The canvas size should be about 8 inches by 11 inches. Slides and print images will not be accepted.
Hopeful photographers can mail a disk to: Outdoor Oklahoma magazine, Oklahoma Dept. of Wildlife Conservation, P.O. Box 53465, Oklahoma City, OK 73152.
Individuals can subscribe to Outdoor Oklahoma by calling 1-800-777-0019. Subscriptions are just $10 for one year, $18 for two years, or $25 for three years. You can also subscribe over the Internet by logging on to the Department's Web site at wildlifedepartment.com.
Weight: 2.6 lbs.
Angler: Shelby Wade Greeson, Noble
Date: Dec. 27, 2008
Bait: Jig
Photo link: http://lake-record.ou.edu/fishsite/public/fishView.php?id=536
Smallmouth Bass
Weight: 5.5 lbs.
Angler: Barry F. Clay, Tahlequah
Date: Jan. 3, 2009
Bait: Jig
Photo link: http://lake-record.ou.edu/fishsite/public/fishView.php?id=537
Oklahoma Station Chapter of Safari Club International offers sportsmens' auction
and banquet
Safari Club International is characterized by its support of conservation and sportsmen, and their active Oklahoma Station Chapter is offering sportsmen the chance to contribute as well by attending their 24th Annual Awards Banquet and Charity Fundraiser Saturday, March 7 in Oklahoma City.
The banquet will be held at the National Cowboy and
The Oklahoma Station Chapter of Safari Club International offers support and funding to local conservation efforts that benefit the sportsmen and wildlife of
"Starting as a young boy over 50 years ago, the opportunity to learn about the outdoors and to hunt has added greatly to my appreciation and enjoyment of life," said Mike Mistelske, current vice president and nominee for president of the Oklahoma Station Chapter. "It's a privilege now to be able to give something back through SCI here in
The organization also has helped fund the purchase of an airboat used by the Wildlife Department on waterfowl surveys and other wetland management tasks, and a 24-foot trailer for use in the Department's Shotgun Training Education Program (STEP). The STEP program introduces both youth and adults to shotgun shooting techniques and the proper handling of firearms. The Oklahoma Station Chapter also partners with the Wildlife Department each year to hold an annual youth essay contest that provides youth a chance to share their feelings about Oklahoma's outdoors and to win great prizes, including a guided pronghorn antelope hunt in New Mexico. Additionally, the chapter purchased eight elk for introduction into an existing herd in southeast
The banquet begins at 6:30 p.m. Saturday, March 7, but registration begins at 4:30 p.m. Craig Boddington and various outfitters and wildlife artists will be available starting at 5:30 p.m. The National Cowboy and
SCI membership is not required to participate in the banquet and raffles, or to be eligible for door prizes. Tickets may be purchased in advance for $75 or at the door for $100. To purchase tickets or for further information, contact Verilea Faust at (405) 721-7229 or e-mail firstname.lastname@example.com. Ticket forms may also be printed and either mailed, faxed or e-mailed through the Chapter's Web site at oklahomastationsci.org. Bid cards for the auction are available to members at no cost. For non-members, bid cards ($50) or memberships ($85) may be purchased at the door if desired. For questions relating to the banquet and auction, contact Oklahoma Station Chapter of SCI vice president Mike Mistelske at email@example.com.
For more information on the Oklahoma Station Chapter of Safari Club International, log on to oklahomastationsci.org.
2009-10 Waterfowl Stamp artwork selected
The 2009-2010 Oklahoma Waterfowl Stamp design competition results are in, and first place goes to Tim Turenne of Richfield, Minn. The wildlife artist's winning painting portraying a pair of gadwalls resting in dim sunlight will be featured on the 2008-09 Oklahoma Waterfowl Stamp.
Turenne is an active hunter, angler, hiker and wildlife watcher who enjoys "taking in all nature has to offer."
Turenne started his own wildlife art company, WILDforLIFE, in 2006 and has won wildlife art competitions all across the country including the 2006 Maryland Black Bear Conservation Stamp, 2007 Minnesota Turkey Stamp, 2008 Colorado Habitat Stamp, 2009 Minnesota Trout and Salmon Stamp and the 2010 Minnesota Turkey Stamp. He said he uses photography to help draw inspiration for his work.
"I take a lot of pictures that I incorporate into my wildlife paintings," Turenne said.
Samples of Turenne's work can be viewed on his Web site at wildforlife.net.
Honorable mentions went to J. Byron Test of Guymon; James Sanderson of Kansas City, Mo.; Daniel Allard of Pataskala, Ohio; and Douglas Walpus of Hartsville, Tenn.
"We received some great entries in this year's contest and had the public's help in picking the winning artwork," said Micah Holmes, information supervisor for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. "The entries were on display at the
Duck stamp sales help finance many projects that benefit ducks and geese. Since the duck stamp program began in 1980, thousands of acres of waterfowl habitat have been enhanced and restored through duck stamp revenues.
Entries were judged on anatomical accuracy, artistic composition and suitability for printing. The winner and honorable mentions also will appear in a future issue of Outdoor Oklahoma magazine.
A selection of waterfowl stamp art from previous years is currently on display in the lobby of the Wildlife Department headquarters located at 1801 N. Lincoln, in
Prints of previous winning waterfowl artwork can be purchased at www.wildlifedepartment.com
Turenne, stamp winner
Trout season at OKC pond offers outdoor entertainment for the family
Enjoying a unique fishing trip requires only a few hours after school or work for Oklahoma City residents looking for entertainment for the whole family. Metro anglers have a trout fishing honey hole in their own backyard at Dolese Youth Park Pond in northwest
Part of the state's Close to Home fishing program, the Dolese trout season is made possible through a cooperative partnership between the Wildlife Department and the
Over the course of the season, (open through Feb. 28), rainbow trout will be stocked regularly in the pond, located north of NW 50th and a half block west of Meridian Ave.
Trout are provided through generous donations from a local sponsor and BancFirst. These funds are crucial in providing the necessary match for
"BancFirst's donation is matched with sport fish restoration dollars through the Wildlife Department to supply the trout for this popular local program," said Jeff Boxrucker, assistant chief of fisheries for the Wildlife Department. "We couldn't do it without their support, but thanks to their help we can offer metro anglers this affordable, entertaining source of recreation that doesn't require a lot of planning."
The "Close to Home" fishing program provides fishing areas that are often just a short drive away from urban locations, saving anglers time and gas money. In addition, it allows parents and children to fish together after school or on a busy weekend.
"The 'Close to Home' fishing program is a unique way to offer angling opportunities to even the most urban
According to Bob Martin, fisheries biologist for the
Anglers should have success using 4- to 6-pound test line equipped with a slip sinker and small hook. Along with powerbaits, choice baits include corn, worms, small spinners, jigs and spoons.
"We're stocking rainbow trout that range from nine to 24 inches, with 90 percent ranging from nine to 14 inches," Martin said.
Martin said that, in years past, Dolese has seen up to 18,000 hours of angling a year. Martin also said the Dolese trout season attracts returning anglers as well as first-time anglers each year, and successful anglers have reported satisfaction with the size and taste of trout they have caught.
There is a daily limit of six trout per person during the Dolese Park Pond trout season. In addition, angling is permitted from the bank only, and each angler may only use one rod and reel while fishing for trout. Trout caught and placed on a stringer or otherwise held in possession cannot be released. Catch-and-release angling is allowed all day long during the Dolese trout season, but once a fish is kept, such as put on a stringer or in a basket or bucket, it cannot be released and counts toward the angler's daily limit of six trout. Regulations for other species that may be caught at Dolese are available in the current "Oklahoma Fishing Guide" or online at wildlifedepartment.com.
Those fishing for trout at Dolese must purchase an annual state fishing license and a fishing and hunting legacy permit unless exempt. In addition, an Oklahoma City Fishing Permit is required for anglers ages 16-61 unless exempt. No state trout license is required. For more information about trout fishing at Dolese and other Close to Home fishing opportunities, contact the city's H.B. Parsons Fish Hatchery at (405) 755-4014, or visit the Lakes and Fishing page of the city's Web site at okc.gov. For more information on the "Close to Home" fishing program, log on to wildlifedepartment.com.


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IE7February 15, 2005
Dean Edwards is going to need a new name for his pet project. The question is: will it still be necessary?
It's official: there will be an Internet Explorer 7. There's been a lot of activity over at the MSDN IEblog lately, so the former cone of silence covering any form of news about Internet Explorer has been lifted for a while. It's no big surprise that Microsoft is releasing an update to their flagship browser.
What is surprising, on the other hand, is that Internet Explorer 7 will be available to Windows XP users. In mid-2003 it was announced that IE/Mac had seen its last update, and IE/Win was no longer going to be available as a stand-alone product. It was largely perceived to mean the browser was now only going to see an update when the operating system did, and given Longhorn's continual slip date, this could only mean the reign of IE6 would continue for many years to come.
So why the strategy shift? Or is this even much of a shift? It was perceived that the release of Longhorn would be the next time we'd see an update to IE, but as far as I'm aware it was never confirmed. This could be right in line with the long-term plan, but something tells me it's a reaction, more than anything.
It's 2005. Internet Explorer 6 was released in late 2001, and itself a minor improvement over IE5 which was originally released in 1999. There's a whole lot of stagnation going on, and we all know what has happened in the past few years. IE security exploits have become routine, and the alternative choices are all vastly superior. The public is starting to catch on to both facts, and for the first time in a long, long while we're seeing IE's market share slipping. Given the interesting things going on in the web application space (think Google here), the future of the browser is bright. That, more than anything, is a reason to get back in the game.
The question we all want to know: any chance of rendering improvements? A minor patch for IE6 was released as a component of XP Service Pack two last year. I still have yet to hear of a single rendering difference between IE6 stock and IE6 post-XPSP2, so it was a security update with a pop-up blocker. Will Internet Explorer 7 bring anything else to the table like improved CSS2 support, or even just a mass fixing of all the outstanding bugs? About the best we can do is wait and see what the first betas bring.
I'm not optimistic, either way. No matter what IE7 gets right, the browser upgrade cycle is slower than ever. There are so many compelling reasons to stop using IE6 now, but the market has done next to nothing about it. Even if IE7 is perfect, we'll be supporting IE6 for a long time yet. I've predicted 2010 as the year we might be able to stop; even that might be wishful thinking, unfortunately.
* html, baby.
* html.
I guess there are two important questions to ask.
1. Will IE7 actually fix its CSS rendering bugs and add more CSS support?
2. Will IE7 be secure enough for people to use?
I'm guessing that since IE7 needs to keep ActiveX compatibility with IE6 and remain an integrated part of the desktop, the answer to (2) will remain "no". Which makes it worthless to users.
The answer to (1) will determine whether web designers find any use for it.
I can picture the ad campaigns already and I fear it may just go further than a small add in the New York Times. Who knowes it may just be done in the same way as all the other current windows updates, i.e. automatically installed the background!
Even if we see a browser from Microsoft comprable against Firefox, support for IE6 and sometimes 5.5 will still be the norm. Worst case scenario for this - Microsoft fixes bugs currently used to target IE6 while keeping the rendering engine unchanged. Somehow, I just don't see this as being a good thing at all.
I don't suppose Dean Edwards has a trademark on "IE7?"
Wow, some of the feedback on the MSDN IE blog is quite interesting. You've got your diehard IE users (ignorance is bliss) and then the folks asking if IE7 is going to work on Linux!
Based on past behaviour, MS will probably make an attempt to meet standards requirements better than IE6 has done, and they will undoubtedly fail.
Long live open source development, we'll have yet another stable Firefox build in no time (how many does that make in less than a year?)…who can say the same for IE?!
I'm not optimistic either. I can't see this as being anything more than a update for security features. IF the rendering engine is worked on, will it just introduce more bugs? Then you're stuck supporting 4 versions of IE, all with their own idiosyncrasies!
The best part of the news is that it's so obvious Firefox has made them change their plans…
I hardly ever write about IE, but this definitely sparked my interest. Nonetheless, I am not optimistic either.
Six more years. Six more years..
Geez we're a pessimistic bunch… I guess like Joe Clark said at WE04, the things that make us interested in standards are the same things that make us crotchety pedants.
I think this is merely a commercial stop-gap measure from MS after all the publicity - http://news.com.com/Firefox+drawing+fans+away+from+Microsoft+IE/2100-1032_3-5368302.html?tag=nl - surrounding IE losing market share.
I think Jeff and John are on the money - it's going to be a long time before we can chuck out our hack management.
What are the chances it's going to include full PNG support?
I share your pessimism.
For me it looks like just another name for "cumulative security update" and PR move to delay corporate environment from switching to alternatives.
"Who knowes it may just be done in the same way as all the other current windows updates, i.e. automatically installed the background!"
Why would that be a bad thing? No, really. If users are already using an alternative browser, it's not going to delete that browser, or they'd be in for some pretty major lawsuits.
On the other hand, if somebody's still using IE6, or worse 5 or 5.5, then automatic upgrades would mean rapid uptake of IE7, meaning the older versions of IE would die out more quickly. And even if IE7 only fixes half a dozen rendering bugs, that'd still make it preferable to IE6, no?
> I don't suppose Dean Edwards has a trademark on "IE7?"
A friend of mine (who is hot on that kind of thing) was convinced that I could successfully accquire that trademark. It's not really a road I wanted to go down so I didn't pursue it. Would've been a hoot though. :-)
Regarding this announcement from Microsoft - well it looks like what they used to call a security patch. Except they've given it a version number. Don't expect any CSS enhancements. Ditto PNG. Best not to expect anything good really…
As a matter of fact, anyone who'd ever read "The Inmates Are Running The Asylum" (by Alan Cooper) and "The Design of Everyday Things" (by Don Norman), understands what that post (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/02/15/373104.aspx) means: another software that brings more "creeping featurism" to frustrate the user's experience.
My biggest fear is that IE7 won't support CSS properly, but will fix existing CSS bugs it has. (For example, we won't able to use the *html or underscore hacks anymore.) Of course, the alternative is to send an alternate stylesheet for an alternate browser, which will always be possible, but the more versions that exist the more stylesheets we'll have to create. Hopefully we can still hack IE7 like we do with IE6 or IE5.5, but then again hopefully we won't have to.
Hey all you pessimists, don't forget, they could still decide to just use the Gecko engine in the blasted thing.
Given the stated intention in the IE blog to listen out for feedback from customers, perhaps this is the time to get specific about the expectations of IE7 from those who seek better support for web standards.
To my mind, that means more than just saying "100% compliance" with CSS2 etc.; it means taking a view on prioritisation of fixes, additional support, and how IE7 should best be delivered (automatic updates or not?) to serve the interests of web users (first) and web authors (second).
Maybe mezzoblue.com site is the place to set out the stall…?
Next year will be PNG 1.0's tenth anniversary. I'm hoping a decade is long enough for Microsoft to implement it.
"Obviously, they will address CSS issues, but clearly not all. They will also rip every feature out of [Firefox](http://getfirefox.com "Take back the web with Firefox"), and just use it very poorly. It will turn out ugly, and nobody will turn back from Firefox, even with tabs and a very complex plugin structure it will, without a doubt, have. Lacking XUL will make it virtually impossible to write a plugin for the common-man, as opposed to the ease in doing so for Firefox. Themes — they'll be simply unusable, if they tackle that at all."
I wrote more: http://nokrev.com/archives/2005/02/microsoft-is-on-ie7.html
You should really use trackback, so I don't have to be ajerk and do this. Also, if you comment with a quote at the beginning, the preview seems screwed up.
If, like Jon H and Dean E say above, this is just a security patch, what the heck are they doing announcing this as a new version?
If this thing comes out, and there is no improved CSS support or PNG support, then MS are going to be crucified! When will they learn?
Is this truly only a way to pull back some of their market share without actually doing any work on the rendering engine? Are they that evil?
I can't wait to see how this one pans out?
Hey, Andrew—not to sound like a Microsoft apologist, but it bears remembering that they're not the first browser company to toy with their version numbers.
*cough* http://netscape.com/ *cough*
What I wonder, though, is why they wouldn't fix all the outstanding bugs. (a) They have to know about them, (b) they've had the IE team back together for quite a while, (c) the bugs are relatively trivial to fix from a coding perspective. I think we'll get a good package with IE 7…
Digital Web has an interesting take:
"…[apparently no] other platforms other than XP with service pack 2 ("Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows XP Service Pack 2 customers"). The release is also identified as simply a beta to go along with the Longhorn beta release ("The beta release is scheduled to be available this summer."). The release has only been identified as a security update, which means the rendering engine could still be identical to that in IE6 ("Internet Explorer 7.0, designed to add new levels of security to Windows XP SP2 while maintaining the level of extensibility and compatibility that customers have come to expect."). That said, I think it may be Fall before we see any new IE7 (non-beta) and I am not so convinced that it will be a standalone browser at all… much less offer any improved standards support…"
I see this IE7 thing as a contingency plan; ie "those Firefox guys might get big. Let's not take any risks".
Still, Dave, I think 2007 is the minimum. It never hurts to be optimistic…does it?
I predict by the time IE 7 comes out, they will in fact support CSS 2 correctly. However that said, by that time all other major browser players will be supporting the new CSS 3 standards, and thus we will still be left doing work arounds for IE's stupidity.
I was wondering when one of you was going to pick up on this story. I'm going to be optimisitc and believe that standards support will be improved. Looks like Firefox lit a fire under their ass…
IE 7 will only be available to to XPSP2.
That being said it's not going to do web developers any good when we still have to deal with people using windows 2000 and 98 et al. on outdated browsers that dont support the standards that we are trying to use.
Unless IE7 is a standalone and made available atleast for win 2000 then in my opinion its a lost cause to hope for a new rendering engine and CSS/PNG support.
…goes back to promoting firefox…
2010. 2010. Sad, but I think it's true. I got excited when I heard the news about IE7, but now that I have looked into it a bit more, I agree with Keith D (http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archive/2005/02/ie7). Big whup.
I was wondering; what if Microsoft fixes some of the CSS problems, e.g. the * html and the other hacks, but doesn't really solve some of the most important viewing problems, and still generally doesn't have good CSS2 support? Then we won't have any hack to use at all.
But on the other hand, as Andrew said, when they're doing it as a new version, why should it then just be a security release? I don't really think so. There must be something new.
"I contend that the public doesn't care about standards and CSS and so on."
Very true. But remember when Steve Ballmer jumped around the stage chanting "Developers! Developers! Developers!" Well, web developers have been leading the mass exodus away from IE. I know I've gotten all my family members to use Firefox. If IE7 doesn't throw a bone to the developers (CSS, PNG, etc…), MS will be sorry.
Personally, I wish MS would never release another browser and just let IE die. (Yeah, I know: fat chance). I don't care how standard-compliant IE7 is…it's just going to be another browser to consider, and it's going to have it's own bugs.
I'm hoping they don't touch the rendering engine.
The IE7 release is going to be coded in a relatively short timespace and I would rather MS start from scratch if they are going to change the rendering engine.
If they do change the rendering engine, I could see it breaking all the current CSS hacks without fixing the bugs they are used to workaround.
Reading the IEBlog post, all that says to me is we're building on the security updates…
I reckon IE7 will just be more security updates. I doubt the new version number is anything but a publicity stunt to get all the masses of the great unwashed hooked back into MS
As for the auto-update - thats great if it doesn't break anything, otherwise we'll be hacking the registry as before with SP2 to delay it… and doesn't XP ship with IE6? if so we're not gonna see any change to the market share of IE5/5.5!
Although I once assumed that IE6 rendered consistently across operating systems, I have of late noticed some differences between my Windows 2000 environment and XP (whenever I happen to jump onto it).
However, due to the fact that I can't be bothered adding yet another combination to my test suite, I haven't fully investigated the extent of these differences.
Hopefully, IE7 will spark lots of reviews in the media that say something like, "IE7 is an improvement over IE6, but you're best bet is to get Firefox." Firefox will probably get more mainstream publicity from IE7 reviews than anything else.
To get around IE's set of problems I prefer just to post my screen shots out of photoshop and just image map them..
Sure the down side is that it's all just an image, but hey the upside is that it's all just an image too.
Saves me tons of time with all of the IE CSS hacks and hey, the client isn't any wiser.
I can see why some are worried that an IE upgrade will fix some of the CSS bugs, but still not completely support standards. Afraid of what it will do to existing designs and how future sites will be coded.
But you will always be able to utilize "Conditional Comments" to target specific IE stylesheets and specific IE versions. Sure you're not keeping it all in one stylesheet, but to me Conditional Comments are a cleaner way of doing sites with CSS anyway. Now I also don't support IE/Mac either, but who cares about that browser.. certainly not me. My stats don't warrant it enough although I do support Safari and Mozilla on the Mac. You have to pick and choose your battles.
I welcome an upgrade to IE, however I also agree that it will be about 5-10 years before it can be supported as the minimum browser requirements.
Does anybody else see this as a massive fake-out? I mean, given the tenor and tone of the IE discussion around the web standards circles over years, Microsoft is well within its rights to expect pessimism from us.
However, what if they're counting on that? What I mean is, they have to know that not many mainstream news sources or people care about our negative feedback about this announcement at this point.
But… what if they DO in fact have improvements in the rendering engine that we won't know about until right before the annoucement? We'd fall all over ourselves heaping praise upon them, which would tie in nicely with the inevitable marketing/promotion campaign that would go along with the release. "IE - Now approved by Web Standards advocates everywhere!"
After all, this is in keeping with their release of information up to this point. For a long time we've heard that there will be no new IE… until is happens. Kind of like "no, we're not going to make a Flash-based iPod" right before they do.
Personally, though, I'm as skeptical as most of you. I consider the lack of compatibility and interoperability to be a conscious choice on the part of Microsoft (feature vs. bug, ya know). Their business model for the browser depends on it working that way.
I'm dying to be proven wrong, though. As many people have pointed out, it shouldn't be too much of a problem for Microsoft to add a standards-compliant rendering mode triggered by a DOCTYPE and/or mime type of application/xhtml+xml, while keeping the current rendering engine for all other cases. (*crosses fingers)
I can't help feeling that if the rendering engine was to be rewritten, they'd have paraded it a lot more before now.
As it is, I expect it will just be a lot of fixes (maybe) bolted onto the IE6 frame.
It will be the vicious marketing campaign that sells this thing. They'll lob lots of nasty FUDs at the Firefox and Opera camps, and depend on their spin doctors for the rest.
This is probably the most hilarious thing I've read in a while:
"Why? Because we listened to customers, analysts, and business partners. We heard a clear message: "Yes, XP SP2 makes the situation better. We want more, sooner. We want security on top of the compatibility and extensibility IE gives us, and we want it on XP. Microsoft, show us your commitment.""
Who the hell is saying that except for microsoft? Seriously, it's just a browser. I don't want "security on top of the compatibility and extensibility" - I just want to look at porn that downloads at a reasonable rate!
The thing that really pisses me off is this; crappy spin about them listening to "customers" who want extensibility.
A little more positivity, people. The negativity has played out, let's try balancing it now okay?
Assuming that this update will focus on security fixes, I'm hoping something will be implemented to thwart common phishing techniques eg. the window.createPopup() trick used to spoof the address bar (see http://www.doxdesk.com/personal/posts/bugtraq/20030713-ie/)
I've been seeing an increasing amount of phishing e-mails lately, presumably as more banks (or scammers) come online.
Full PNG and better CSS2 support would be nice, but perhaps the developer world will sleep better at night knowing their grandmother's new computer is (hopefully) safer by default.
Never underestimate Microsoft's ability to come late to the game with a competitive product. (case in point: IE5). Granted, I don't *want* that to happen, since look where IE5's world domination left us for a few years.
But it is nevertheless somewhat likely (case in point: IE5).
I think if Microsoft wants to be a browser player they have to make updates more often than when they ship new operating systems. From my point of view the security issues are more important than the latest rendering tricks. The security issues in IE is the main reson why I have converted to Firefox. What is the main difficulty of making the security super tight in a web browser?
We've got strong reasons to be pesimistic: there is no word about making IE7 more standards-aware and whole thing looks like it was made in a rush just to stop people leaving IE for Opera or Firefox.
On the other hand MS can make IE a best browser in the market again at not that big cost as it seems. They have whole lot of hidden freatures in IE6. Making them easier avaible for end-user or changing some of them to meet w3c standards can make a whole lot of difference. Think of such things like XMLHttpRequest, XML support, zooming a whole page(like in Opera) or text shadowing.
To Cameron:
If you're talking about the 1px alignment bug with a css centered background, I think that's due to the "plastic" looking Windows XP theme being applied, as it seems to disappear when the classic theme is applied (same look as in Windows 2000).
I think this is because of a difference in scrollbar width that they didn't account for. While we're all well-aware of IE6's many bugs, that's one in particular that stuck out to me.
And to comment on the topic of IE7, I hope they get it right this time around, and don't create the need for a whole new set of hacks to be implimented.
I share concern about it too.
IE has taken a bludgeoning about it's security issues (insecurity issues, rather), and I think definitely FireFox has caused a hurting at Microsoft. I think that security is their priority, or should.
If they amped up security, and left the css support the same, I could live with it just fine. But as was mentioned, trying to offer better support may open up a new can of worms for designers.
IE has many good points, but they unfortunately seem to be a sort of oxymoron (tying in with the operating system is good, not fixing security in the browser is bad, etc). And it seems that MS has been a bit sloppy since 'winning the browser war.'
Of course, there's realy not a lot that can be done about it, except hope it's more safe and doesn't introduce new bugs in an attempt to support css better.
Patience, I guess.
While the IE7 spin machine is revving-up is a good time to hold MS's feet to the fire, on every street corner and blog possible. It wouldn't just be *bad* if IE7 tweaked the rendering engine just enough to set every developer scrambling, it'd also be *wrong*.
A move like that is anti-competitiveness by stealth. Grabbing the PR spotlight is one thing, but sucking up a lot of our energy and attention (for what, a year, maybe?) for purposes serving only Microsoft is *wrong*. They'd be leveraging their position again, yet in a way too arcane to arouse public or regulatory attention. That can't be allowed to happen.
This all smells like the Social Security Privatization game here in the U.S. Everybody's in a supportive or oppositional lather over a plan with no announced details. Luckily, folks are beginning to smell the BS, but it's taken a lot of effort by alternative media to get us there.
So we've got to get the word out: Nobody should be comforted by MS non-announcements; they should instead be skeptical and pissed over wanton spin-doctoring. Folks — ordinary folks — should come to see amorphous IE7 talk as a negative.
Isn't MS a member and funder of W3C? Aren't there honest folks working on MSIE? Yes, and yes. Where are they on this nonsense?
Much is said about so-called standards, tabbed browsing and so on all of which I salivate over. I also want to see Microsoft release an IE.NET SDK (F*ck COM and C++ Okay?).
I contend that the public doesn't care about standards and CSS and so on. Only the results that are produced. The public does care about the following priorities however…
** Security
** Print Control
** Acessibility
As we all understand the issues regarding security and print control my final comments address accessibility.
I wonder how many of us know or understand that the lack of browser support for accessibility is as serious as I contend? The US federal government has the power to forbid the use of any software that does not support accessibility. The states are sure to follow.
How many know and understand that lack of accessibility is resulting in punitive actions which will continue to become more and more severe? This has occurred in the UK and recently here in the US.
Microsoft has clearly led the world in assistive technology. They should implement all future releases of IE keeping this in mind.
My prediction:
IE7 will catch up on 80% of what FireFox has done and will do next to nothing innovative. By the time the next IE comes out, FireFox and friends will once again have moved light years ahead. Long live open source browsers!
Internet Explorer.. err what is that.. oh its that alternative browser to opera …. Opera is the fastest and safest browser in the world.. anybody who knows I.E 7 will be released at such and such a date will already by using opera.
Jinu Johnson
There is interview with Bill Gates on abc.com (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=506354&page=1) where he speaks a little about IE7 and Firefox. Nothing special, just typical "we want to be the best". What is worth to note there is that he said: "…best in security, best in features", which makes me some hope for IE7 being not only a security update.
"We'd fall all over ourselves heaping praise upon them, which would tie in nicely with the inevitable marketing/promotion campaign that would go along with the release. "IE - Now approved by Web Standards advocates everywhere!""
I think you over-estimate the amount of influence we have over web users' opinions. Yes, Firefox has seen some movement of late but only with the mainstream media doing a lot of reporting on it, and only after it become good enough on its own.
I don't know about you, but if I didn't know what a web standard was, I sure as hell wouldn't change browsers because somebody I'd never heard of was telling me that broiwser x supported them.
"I've predicted 2010"
euh, why should we wait so long? It took css design about 1 year before everybody made the switch from table to css design. The same can happen if we all work together, start a site-concept like csszengarden so people will do the switch.
"I've predicted 2010"
euh, why should we wait so long? It took css design about 1 year before everybody made the switch from table to css design. The same can happen if we all work together, start a site-concept like csszengarden so people will do the switch.
>> My biggest fear is that IE7 won't support CSS properly, but will fix existing CSS bugs it has. (For example, we won't able to use the *html or underscore hacks anymore.)
Ack! I hadn't thought of that. The last thing we need now is another bagful of hacks.
I, too, had been hoping that the XP auto-update feature would result in Internet Explorer 7 becoming the majority version very quickly. Now I'm not so sure.
Time to plug FireFox harder than ever I guess.
I'm kinda late on this thread, but I have been thinking about it a little, so here goes.
My guess is that Microsoft will either:
1) leave CSS alone, including all quirks, hacks, * html, etc.
2) bring CSS support at least at the mozilla/safari/opera level
The reason is very very simple, a substantial number of websites are now CSS based and make extensive use of IE-specific hacks, fixing those hacks without fixing CSS would make the IE7 user experience significantly worse with no real benefit for anyone.
If I can add another guess, I'd say that Microsoft will go for option 1, the only timeframe for release that has been mentioned is summer/autumn of 2005 and while Microsoft does have considerable resources and might have been working on IE7 ever since they started working on XP SP2, I somehow doubt that they have had enough time to rework CSS and JS support to be compatible with standards-based sites — all without ever leaving a trace in the form of different user-agent strings or other information collected for statistics.
I am using the beta version (MSDN Subscribers). Happily I am seeing absolutely no deference in rendering of tables or layers that would have been a nightmare to manage. As I use more an more browsers Opera became 100% add free and I have to say it has the best of both worlds and the ability to read from the page by simply selecting the area and press V. Go download it!


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