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A joint economy that creates more jobs on both sides of the border. A binational hub of technological, cultural and culinary innovation. An ever-closer collaboration on shared water resources. A united regional voice that echoes loudly in Washington, D.C., and Mexico City.
These are the dreams of people pushing for stronger ties between Tijuana and San Diego.
Despite numerous efforts over the years, the two cities have remained distant neighbors on many fronts. Following a difficult decade that saw tighter U.S. security measures, drug violence in Mexico, a drop in U.S. visitors to Baja California and an economic downturn on both sides, vows by San Diego Mayor Bob Filner to boost binational ties have reawakened visions of the region's myriad possibilities.
"There is an enormous potential for connections that have not been made, of ties that haven't been woven," said Tonatiuh Guillén López, president of Colegio de la Frontera Norte, a Tijuana-based think tank with offices along Mexico's northern border.
"San Diego and Tijuana have a shared destiny," said Teddy Cruz, co-director of the Center for Urban Ecologies at UC San Diego. The region must be re-imagined, he said, "not only through issues of security, but through shared natural and socioeconomic resources."
Above all, there must be "a culture shift," said Diane Takvorian of the San Diego-based Environmental Health Coalition, which has projects in both countries.
"I have always felt that San Diego has shunned its border location," she said.
Filner is not starting from scratch. Cross-border collaboration has taken place at numerous levels, inside and outside of City Hall. San Diego's previous mayor, Jerry Sanders, championed efforts to promote the shared region and nurtured ties with two Tijuana mayors — Jorge Ramos and Carlos Bustamante.
"Mayor Sanders brought attention once again on the border," said Alejandra Mier y Terán, executive director of the Otay Mesa Chamber of Commerce. "I think Mayor Filner can take it to the next level with his contacts in D.C. and congressional know-how."
Here are some areas that champions of binational ties say would benefit from forceful leadership, stronger commitment and greater resources:
Border crossings
There is broad agreement on one issue: Something must be done about long northbound waits at the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa border crossings. Pedestrians and drivers often wait for hours to reach inspection booths, the result of travel-document and security requirements after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
With rising congestion has come a dramatic decline in crossings: Noncommercial, northbound crossings at the Otay Mesa and San Ysidro ports of entry totaled 40.6 million in fiscal 2011, compared with 61.5 million in 2003, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
"It's very difficult to have two cities doing business together, sharing cultural events, visiting family and friends … when the border waits are so long," said José Larroque, a Tijuana attorney who co-chairs the Smart Border Coalition, a binational group that has long lobbied for more efficient crossings.
Border crossings are the federal government's domain. But Larroque and others are counting on Filner's two decades as a congressman representing the California border to help push for funds to complete a $583 million upgrade of the San Ysidro port, as well as expansion of the Otay Mesa vehicle and commercial inspection facilities.
Congress has funded only the first phase for San Ysidro — $292 million for renovations of the northbound vehicle inspection lanes. When that phase is finished in September 2014, there will be 46 booths — up from the current 33. An additional 17 booths would be built in the third phase.
People who continue to cross are spending money: A study last year by Crossborder Group, a San Diego-based marketing and consulting firm, shows that Baja California residents shelled out as much as $15 million a day in San Diego County. But that is only a fraction of the full potential: The latest figures from the San Diego Association of Governments show that inadequate infrastructure at the county's border crossings — at Tijuana, Otay Mesa and Tecate — cost the U.S. and Mexican economies $7.2 billion and 62,000 jobs in 2007.
Border congestion isn't just a financial issue, said Serge Dedina, executive director of the Imperial Beach-based Wildcoast, an environmental group with offices on both sides of the border. "It's made the whole issue of binational cooperation logistically very difficult."
Perceptions of Tijuana
Filner "has the opportunity to get out there and publicly say that Mexico is important to us," said Paul Ganster, director of the Institute for Regional Studies of the Californias at San Diego State University. "Just that public statement alone will help set a more positive framework."
Devastated by reports of drug-related violence in Baja California, tourism promoters there have been especially vocal about the importance of changing the region's image. But the stigma has affected other sectors, from industry to philanthropy.
A 2010 poll by the San Diego Foundation asked 1,200 county residents about five possible economic development strategies. Focusing on the "Mega-Region" of San Diego County and Baja California got the lowest response, with only one in 10 respondents listing it as their top choice.
Public statements can help, but Richard Kiy of the International Community Foundation said the key is creating greater awareness of cross-border economic interdependence. "I believe the only way attitudes will change is when people start to see the economic benefits," Kiy said.
The push to change perceptions should start in areas of the county that have not traditionally engaged with Tijuana, said Denise Moreno Ducheny, a former California senator and a senior analyst at the University of San Diego's Trans-Border Institute. While many South County residents understand the border region's importance, "North County needs to understand it, too, so that all of us together are fighting for things like more efficient border crossings."
Economic development
Steps such as establishing training programs and developing cross-border supply chains for promising sectors — including aerospace and medical-device manufacturing — can be key to attracting new investment to the region, said Christina Luhn at the San Diego Regional Economic Development Corp.
"Making sure we have talent is crucial," said Luhn, director of the group's Cali-Baja Bi-National Mega-Region initiative. "That only works if we don't see each other as competitors."
The Tijuana Economic Development Corp. is pushing for an in-depth study that would document the economic links between Tijuana and San Diego.
"We understand the benefit of collaborating and we try to communicate this, but we don't have the tools to quantify this benefit," said the group's executive director, Flavio Olivieri.
Besides the expansions planned at San Ysidro, a number of proposed infrastructure projects on both sides of the border are expected to help shape the region's future. Some are efforts that span the border, including a binational desalination plant, a cross-border airport terminal and the Otay East port of entry that would be financed through toll fees.
"There's a lot of good collaboration and good planning" between U.S. and Mexican agencies, said Gary Gallegos, executive director of the San Diego Association of Governments. "But we need to implement, and part of the challenge of implementing is having the financial resources."
Emergency planning
Disasters such as earthquakes, floods and wildfires know no borders, and emergency planners say the two cities need to work closely when these occur.
The city of San Diego has included Tijuana in its contingency planning for hazardous-material spills, but there is no formal mutual-aid pact for other disasters, said Antonio Rosquillas, Tijuana's civil protection chief.
There is much complexity because several layers of government — local, state and federal — are involved in emergency planning on both sides of the border.
"What would happen to the border, the crossing of Americans and vice versa?" Rosquillas said. "These are issues that are in the federal domain, but of direct interest to municipalities."
Because San Diego and Tijuana share the Tijuana River watershed, efforts to control water quality have long involved both countries — and environmentalists said continued cross-border collaboration is essential on a range of fronts.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has worked closely with the Baja California government to improve Tijuana's wastewater treatment and collection, but cross-border flows in rainy weather continue to lead to beach closures in southern San Diego County. The Imperial Beach-based environmental group Wildcoast has increasingly focused on cross-border pollution caused by the flow of trash and sediment from Tijuana into the United States at the Tijuana River Estuary.
The potential for air pollution at the border caused by cars and trucks idling for hours at the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa ports of entry has become a growing issue as the waits have grown longer.
Cross-border student exchanges have fallen steeply in both directions in recent years, and schools and cultural institutions are looking for ways to reverse the trend.
Field trips that once brought large numbers of Tijuana students to visit Balboa Park and other Southern California destinations ended with the stricter, post-9/11 requirements by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
At the higher-education level, concerns about the safety of travel in Mexico in 2010 prompted the California State University system to cancel its programs in Mexico, including MEXUS, which allowed international business students at San Diego State University to take some of their classes at the private Cetys University in Tijuana.
Art and culture
The Tijuana-San Diego region holds great potential for cultural partnerships through events such as workshops, concerts, culinary festivals and joint exhibitions. But there are formidable barriers.
Arturo Rodríguez, who owns Tijuana's La Caja Galería, said persuading U.S. collectors to visit has been difficult, as many are afraid to cross. "There is a high degree of production by artists in Tijuana, but the problem is that sales are low," Rodriguez said.
The relationship with Tijuana "is an incredibly rich opportunity for collaboration and to enrich the lives of San Diegans," said Hugh Davies, director of the Museum of Contemporary Art San Diego, which has worked with the Tijuana Cultural Center for more than three decades. "Having a mayor who's interested — and willing to cross the border and set an example that it's safe and it's fun and there's a lot to do there — will help."


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Author Notes: I've done a bit of run of the mill research on the history of the burrito, which really is a Cal-Mex thing, because this stuff always fascinates me. Apparently its origin was in Tijuana (Mexico's food culture is street and family, not restaurant) where this guy would bring his little burro (burrito) into town with these tortilla wrapped savory items. It kind of indicates that the stuffed tortilla doesn't really have anything to do with resembling a donkey or your ride home. In California the culture of the burrito seems to have begun around 1923 in Los Angeles at El Chollo which turned the idea into a local favorite. El Chollo is still there by the way. Fast forward 80 years; I'm living in an affluent beach town surrounded by wealthy gabachos. One of my favorite lunch places was Amigos Tacos in Manhattan Beach. They are serving up lengua and bucha tacos and burritos (tongue, hog maw) and I'm thinking who in this town besides me actually orders this stuff? And then one day at lunch this gang of day laborers in paint and plaster spattered T-shirts rushes in. And then it happened again. Now I get it. So here is my take on tongue in adobo. It took me a long time to figure out the adobo that it cooks in but now I think I have it down. If you want to make tacos instead, well you can go there. The filling is the same. —pierino
Serves: 6
beef tongue (or else two lamb tongues if you are lucky) about 2 pounds
dried ancho chiles
dried arbol chiles
cup white vinegar
cloves garlic
tablespoon cumin
tablespoon dried ancho chiles
tablespoon cassia
"points" of star anise
1 ½ ounces of dark chocolate*
celery stalk, halved
1 bunch cilantro
bay leaves
bunch cilantro
Tortillas of your choice
tablespoon lard
- Make a bouquet garnie using the celery, the bay leaves and a fist full of cilantro (stems on). Tie that up with kitchen twine.
- Place the tongue in a large pot and cover with water. Add the bouquet and pepper corns. Bring that to a simmer and turn on the baseball or hockey game. This is going to take about two and one half hours.
- Remove the tongue and hold back about 2 cups of the "stock" you just made. Trim the tongue as there might be some bone at the back end (if there is it has already done its work, so throw it away). Using a sharp knife remove the skin. This is easier to do when the meat is still warm.
- Now make your adobo---and you can do this with the ball game on in the background. Bring a kettle of water to a boil. Even your wife can do that. Stem the chiles and empty out as many seeds as you can. Place them in a large bowl and cover them with boiling water. Go back to the hockey game.
- Using a mortar or a spice grinder, grind up the cassia and star anise. Grate the chocolate.
- In the bowl of a blender place your now reinvigorated chiles. Add the garlic cloves, cumin, chile powder, cassia/anise mixture, salt and chocolate. Moisten with some of the chile soaking liquid. Let it rip. There's your sauce.
- It's now 2-1 Blackhawks.
- Cut the tongue up into very small pieces. Heat some lard in a dutch oven or use canola oil if you are a sissy. Saute the tongue just to color. Using a spatula work in your adobo mixture. Add some of the reserved stock and braise, partially covered, for about 30 minutes keeping an eye on the liquid.
- Warm your tortillas (large for the big donkey or small for tacos). Fill and wrap.
- Notes to cooks: *I used Valrohna chocolate because it's what I had on hand. You can also use Mexican piloncillos. **A Cal-Mex variation is the "wet burrito". Top with addtional sauce, some grated cheese and run it under a broiler. Top with crema (Mexican style sour cream) and chopped cilantro. An accompaniment could radishes, carrots and jalapenos pickled in vinegar.
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Friday, February 10, 2012
Bill: Carrot Bottom
Next up is 28 year old Bill Posley from Venice, California. Bill is a stand-up comedian so naturally I have high hopes for the lad. If there's not a red clown nose in his pocket for spontaneous hijinks and he doesn't say, "Pull my finger!" to at least one person on the first day, he'll be a big disappointment as far as I'm concerned. This ex-military funny guy likes to "push himself to the limit" yet he hates cliches. Ha! He is funny.
Let's see what Billy Boy is all about.
This was how I expected myself to react:
Instead, my response went something like this:
Oh Bill. So much promise. So much patchouli. So much Ecstasy at Burning Man. But where were my laughs, dude? Not one banana peel in the whole video! Look buddy, get your act together and weave me some side splitting yarns. You can't have a head of hair like that and not store at least 20 pencils in it. Ditch the mala beads and get yourself a carnation that squirts water. I'll be here for the next 85 weeks if you need anymore stand-up advice. Namaste.
Posted by Colette Lala at 10:26 AM
Labels: bill posley, survivor 24, survivor one world
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I still have some hope for the guy- I'm hoping he gives some good confessionals.ReplyDelete
- Dave in San DiegoFebruary 10, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Yes, you can tell from this video his sense of humor is out of control. You would not want to use this opportunity to display your comedic talents, would you? Sounds like he will be a "struggling" comedian for some time. Also, no one knows about military survival training? Sounds a bit like an arrogant pusshead who will be voted off quickly. Also, how does someone not hear about Survivor until season 20? I am not buying that at all.ReplyDelete
- Jimmy RhythmFebruary 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM
He's a vet, so he has my respect. Whether he has my vote remains to be seen.ReplyDelete
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To promote my horror novel, AFRAID, which debuts March 31, I'm wrestling a bear. Ha! Just checking if you were paying attention. I'm blog touring.
Please follow my daily journey, and broaden your blog-reading horizons.
Today I'm hanging out with my buddy, fellow author Jeff Strand, over at his blog/website. When you're done reading our informative, hard-hitting piece, rush out and grab a copy of Suckers, the book we co-wrote. I believe there are only 286 copies left.
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Our Clients home was in desperate need of an interior facelift. As this project clearly proves, a small budget can go along way!
Our Client wanted to open up their living space and most importantly make the fireplace deserving of the focal point that it was. To achieve this feat within our given budget, we kept the existing fireplace structure, including the wood burning fireplace (only adding a new screen) and designed on top of it.
Our design, with strong geometric lines is an asymmetrical balance of faux finished drywall at different depths, a lit cherry niche, slate and a 3" thick, self supporting cherry mantle that wraps the far corner drawing the eye up into the dining room.
To complete our transformation we replaced the well-worn wall to wall carpeting with hardwood and removed the partition between the dining room and entry drastically improving the open concept floor space.
The antiquated accordion closet door was replaced with custom cherry panel doors and stainless steel reveals in the same finish as the mantel. Finally, new lighting was incorporated into the design and all was complete.
A contemporary, open concept living space with a very strong focal point – a funky, asymmetrical fireplace… What a facelift!
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Cincinnati State and the College of Mount St. Joseph have signed an articulation agreement designed to establish an efficient pathway for students.
In broad terms, the agreement stipulates that Cincinnati State students who graduate with an associate of arts, associate of science and other degrees and maintain at least a 2.0 GPA will be able to transfer all their academic credits and apply them toward a bachelor's degree at the Mount.
Transferring students might face other requirements to enter specific programs at the Mount, but in most instances they will not be required to repeat core courses they have already taken at Cincinnati State.
"This gives our students more options for their long-term educational plans," said Monica Posey, Ph.D., academic vice president at Cincinnati State. "We've long had articulation agreements with a number of schools in the region, and it's a pleasure for us to be able to build such a bridge to a college with such a fine academic reputation."
Maggie Davis, Ph.D., associate academic dean at the College of Mount St. Joseph, said, "The College of Mount St. Joseph is very pleased to continue to enrich the partnership with Cincinnati State to educate the citizens of Greater Cincinnati."
"This articulation focuses in particular on our criminology, social work and sport management degree pathways which are Mount baccalaureate degree programs that provide students interested in those fields of study with excellent preparation for future careers," Davis added. "Students who transfer from Cincinnati State to the Mount have proven to be well prepared for the continuation of their studies."
The agreement between Cincinnati State and the Mount comes in the context of efforts by Ohio policymakers to make it easier for students to transfer from one institution of higher education to another. The recent transition of all Ohio colleges and universities to a semester-based academic calendar is part of this effort, as are institution-specific agreements such as this.
The relationship between "two-year" colleges and those offering baccalaureate degrees and higher is an important one. Nationally, 45 percent of students earning a degree at a four-year institution in the 2010-11 academic year had previously attended a two-year institution, according to the National Student Clearinghouse. (In Ohio the rate is 31 percent, in Indiana 34 percent and Kentucky 43 percent.) The National Student Clearinghouse data also suggest that graduates of two-year schools are dedicated learners: 71 percent of associate degree graduates who transfer to a four-year institution complete a bachelor's degree within four years and another 8 percent are still enrolled.
Among the details of the articulation agreement between Cincinnati State and the College of Mount St. Joseph:
• Transfer students will be accorded the same class standing and other privileges as native students.
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What recent research might suggest about porn stars' personality traits
Posted Jan 04, 2013
As noted in a previous post, a number of recent studies have provided a glimpse into the usually secretive world of pornography actors and actresses. Compared to matched community control groups, both male and female performers reported higher self-esteem, earlier age of first sexual experience, greater enjoyment of sex, and a far greater number of sex partners. Note that this latter finding referred only to sex partners outside their work in pornography. Additionally, the study on females reported that actresses described themselves as more "spiritual" than women in the control group. None of these studies reported directly on the personality traits of porn performers, but it is possible to speculate about this based on what is known about how personality is related to the factors mentioned.
In my previous article, I argued that porn stars are probably high in a characteristic known as sociosexuality. Sociosexuality refers to a person's willingness to engage in sexual relations outside of a committed relationship and their interest in having a variety of sexual partners. This argument was based on the fact that both male (Griffith, Mitchell, Hammond, Gu, & Hart, 2012) and female performers (Griffith, Mitchell, Hart, Adams, & Gu, 2012) reported very high numbers of sex partners in their private lives, separately from their film work, as well as very high ratings of enjoyment of sex itself. A number of research studies have looked at how sociosexuality and sexual promiscuity are related to personality traits.
People of both sexes who are high in interpersonal dominance, that is, those who are socially bold and assertive, tend to have many sexual partners compared to those who are more submissive (Markey & Markey, 2007). Dominant individuals do not seem to be shy about seeking out sexual partners, whereas submissive people may wait for others to seek them out. A number of studies have also linked high sociosexuality and having a large number of sexual partners to certain antisocial traits in both men and women. For example, people high in sociosexuality tend to rate themselves lower in the traits of honesty, humility, and agreeableness (Bourdage, Lee, Ashton, & Perry, 2007). Additionally, sociosexuality has also been linked to a group of traits known collectively as the "dark triad", namely psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and narcissism (Jonason, Li, Webster, & Schmitt, 2009). Briefly, psychopathy refers to willingness to violate the rights of others, Machiavellianism to willingness to manipulate and use others, and narcissism to an inflated sense of one's own importance and superiority. These antisocial traits might be linked to sociosexuality because people high in these traits might have a selfish attitude towards sex combined with a willingness to deceive, flatter, and cajole others into having sexual relations.
The findings discussed so far, if applicable to porn stars would seem to imply a rather unflattering portrait of these individuals as cold and antisocial in nature. However, other research suggests that there may be another, more pleasant face that could also apply. A study on interpersonal styles suggests that individuals who are either very high or very low in the trait of interpersonal warmth tend have more sexual partners than people of average warmth (Markey & Markey, 2007). That is, sexually promiscuous people tend to be either very warm or very cold in the way they relate to other people. The authors of this study argued that sexual promiscuity could have different personal meanings depending on how warm or cold a person is. Cold individuals may see sex as a selfish act in which they have little regard for their partners' feelings. They may have multiple sexual partners as a way of avoiding commitment, perhaps out of fear of mistreatment or rejection. Warm individuals may have a more caring view of sexual interaction and actually desire to share love, intimacy and pleasure with many different people. In fact, the people in this study who had the most sexual partners combined either high warmth or low warmth with high dominance. This raises the possibility that porn stars also might fall (more or less) into two interpersonal types: a warm, extraverted type and a cold, arrogant type. Coldness is associated with the dark triad, so the selfish antisocial personality traits associated with sociosexuality might be more characteristic of cold rather than warm performers.
Other research has found that people who have more sexual partners also tend to have higher self-esteem, especially if they are men (Walsh, 1991). This may be because sexual advances involve a risk of rejection and therefore self-confidence is required to make them. Also, having sex with someone may affirm one's sense of attractiveness and be a source of pride. In regard to male porn stars, it has been argued that actors might regard their ability to perform sexually on cue as of particular importance. In regard to female actresses, the researchers point out that having a highly positive image of oneself and one's body would be very helpful to someone expected to undress on camera. Additionally, the authors consider that porn stars may well have a streak of exhibitionism and that their work allows them to freely express this aspect of their personality and be praised for doing so. Perhaps these factors might explain why porn stars of both sexes report high self-esteem than other people.
Although self-esteem is generally consider an important marker of psychological health and well-being, the study's authors' point out that in some people self-esteem can be a marker of less desirable characteristics, such as narcissism and Machiavellianism (members of the "dark triad" mentioned earlier). Other research has found that there are different types of self-esteem. Stable self-esteem, based on liking of one's personal attributes appears to be healthier than unstable self-esteem, based on pride in one's accomplishments (Kernis, Cornell, Sun, Berry, & Harlow, 1993). The former seems to reflect a healthy self-regard that allows one to weather setbacks. The latter is easily threatened by personal failures and leads to defensiveness in response to negative feedback as well as general arrogance. Future research could help clarify if the self-esteem of porn stars tends to be mostly stable or unstable.
Another finding that could be clarified is that regarding the greater "spirituality" of female performers compared to women in the general community. (For some reason, the study on males did not appear to assess this at all.) The term spirituality frequently appears in the current mental health literature, quite often without being clearly defined. This can lead to confusion about what exactly is meant by the term, resulting in rather amusing headlines around the internet proclaiming "Porn stars more religious than other women." To a casual reader this might give the impression that when not making erotic films, female porn stars are devoutly attending church and praying, an idea that seem more than a little incongruous with their public image. However, the actual measure of spirituality[1] used in the study asks very generic questions intended to refer to "religion, spirituality, and any other personal beliefs you may hold." Example questions include:
"To what extent do you feel your life to be meaningful?" and "To what extent do your personal beliefs give you the strength to face difficulties?"
None of the questions refer to belief in God or a higher power, or to participation in traditional religious or even "spiritual" activities such as prayer or meditation. Although the questions could be interpreted very loosely as "spiritual", it would seem more accurate to consider these questions as referring to one's ability to cope with and understand life difficulties and to experience personal meaning. A better interpretation might be something like "self-efficacy" or perhaps "resilience" than "spirituality", which is easily misunderstood. Perhaps working in the adult film industry requires particular mental toughness to thrive compared to more mundane roles. However, the study does not speak to what porn stars actually believe and so does not address whether or not they differ from other women in terms of any specifically religious or particularly "spiritual" beliefs as these terms are usually understood.
The ideas in this article are necessarily speculative. Only further research can determine whether porn star can be sorted usefully into either a warm, friendly type or a cold, selfish type with dark triad traits. It might even be the case that these personality traits are not particularly relevant to this population at all, as they might simply be people with very permissive sexual attitudes and very positive views of themselves. Further research is also needed to examine what self-esteem and "spirituality" really mean for porn stars so as to better understand why they are higher in these things than other people.
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[1] The World Health Organization Quality of Life instrument, spirituality facet.
Bourdage, J. S., Lee, K., Ashton, M. C., & Perry, A. (2007). Big Five and HEXACO model personality correlates of sexuality. Personality and Individual Differences, 43(6), 1506-1516. doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2007.04.008
Griffith, J. D., Mitchell, S., Hammond, B., Gu, L. L., & Hart, C. L. (2012). A Comparison of Sexual Behaviors and Attitudes, Self-Esteem, Quality of Life, and Drug Use Among Pornography Actors and a Matched Sample. International Journal of Sexual Health, 24(4), 254-266. doi: 10.1080/19317611.2012.710183
Griffith, J. D., Mitchell, S., Hart, C. L., Adams, L. T., & Gu, L. L. (2012). Pornography Actresses: An Assessment of the Damaged Goods Hypothesis. Journal of Sex Research, 1-12. doi: 10.1080/00224499.2012.719168
Jonason, P. K., Li, N. P., Webster, G. D., & Schmitt, D. P. (2009). The dark triad: Facilitating a short-term mating strategy in men. European Journal of Personality, 23(1), 5-18. doi: 10.1002/per.698
Kernis, M. H., Cornell, D. P., Sun, C.-R., Berry, A., & Harlow, T. (1993). There's More to Self-Esteem Than Whether It Is High or Low: The Importance of Stability of Self-Esteem. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 65(6), 1190-1204.
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Reader Top 30 is in full swing as well as another industry Top 10. This is your thread for all news outside of the annual prospect ranking.
144 thoughts on "General Discussion Week of January 14"
I agree with most polls Valle is still talented and young enough to be just outside of the top ten. He has outstanding contact skills, otherwise with his low walk rate, he would be failing miserably already. Besides I hope Joseph some day has his defensive skills. Right now he is way behind in digging balls out of the dirt and controling the game.
Outstanding contact skills? I disagree
Good to see Gab Lino be noticed. I saw him just after the trade. He has the best catchers arm in the system. Big, athletic, effortless behind the plate. His swing is to long, but he sets up well. Plenty of time to work on hitting. Defense gets you to the majors as a catcher. Hitting keeps you there. One of Rube's better trades.
Perhaps the Phillies want Lino to make Valle expendable at some point this year. He could get a mid-season promo from LKW to CLR if he is doing well. He is after all, Joe Jordan's guy from the O's system.
The Phillies have done everything they can to make Valle "expendable". Every team knows they can steal Valle from the Phillies with a burned out bullpen arm as bait.
If the Phillies are anxious to give away a catcher to another team they should pick someone other than Valle as the gift.
If Valle is no longer a top prospect, does that mean paradoxically that he has a shot at making the opening day major league roster? I mean if he was still a top prospect you wouldn't want him wasting a month with the big league club getting maybe 20 plate appearances; you'd want him getting regular at bats and game time in AAA. But if he is what he is just a backup catcher[whom the Phillies have shown little concern if the position bats under .200], why not start now? He has to be better than Quintero/Lerud or whatever their other option right now is[there are none on the 40 man], right?
Just because he's not a top prospect doesn't mean he's done developing. Not much to gain from sitting on the bench.
I think some go too far to the extreme on Valle. He is still a prospect. He just hasn't made the jump forward that many thought he could make, this past year.
He disappointed me, because I thought, once he got to hitter friendly Reading, his power would show. Then unnamed scouts started commenting that he makes some lazy mistakes on defense. But I don't think one season condemns a player to non prospect status.
I thought Valle was the #3 prospect last year. After last year, I think he is #13-15. He is a catcher, he has a lot of time, to make improvements. I do not think it makes any sense that some are saying he isn't a top 20, in this system. That is too far to the extreme. There is no way there are 20 more valuable prospects in this system, than Valle.
As with some other players, my vocal disagreements with Valle's boosters probably make me look a little more pessimistic about him than I in fact am. I never said he was a non-prospect, and I don't think that he is a non-prospect. I'd probably slot him towards the back of the top 20.
In one sense he is a tough guy to evaluate, in that, IMO, he's either going to be able to improve his approach, in which case he rockets up the list, or he won't, in which case next year at this time we WILL be talking about him as a non-prospect. As I've said, I am skeptical that he can make those adjustments – I won't repeat my reasons – but if he does, even to the extent of getting his BB/K numbers to a semi respectible 5%/20%, he rockets back into the top ten, maybe high in the top ten. But another year with a 7-1 K to BB ratio and he'll be out of my top 30.
As for "there's no way there are 20 more valuable prospects" than he is, well, as I said, I'd tend to (barely) agree, but if you take the ten or 12 players than most of us would easily put ahead of him, the 2 or 3 relief candidates who are close to ready & project to have a chance to be high leverage relievers, the high upside guys in the lower minors, and then add the other players in the high minors who haven't lost prospect status (e.g., Gillies, Collier), it's easy to find 20 players who at least arguably are better prospects. I agree that putting him any lower than the low 20s, though, is hard to justify.
Not to beat a dead horse, but just to compare him to a guy like Collier: Collier obviously suffers vis a vis Valle in being less advanced and at less of a position of need. But his path to serious prospect status is a little easier to see – a jump in power, like a lot of prospects his age see, and incremental improvement in a number of other areas. He's not a guy who has to change his basic approach. At this point, I think Valle is someone who needs to change his whole approach – and that's tough to do.
"it's easy to find 20 players who at least arguably are better prospects"
It really isn't. Roman Quinn or Carlos Tocci as better prospects than Valle is ridiculous. Both of these guys could be Kelly Dugan and Aaron Altherr by September. You don't anoint half season A-ball players as elite prospects.
The key word you used is "could." Prospect status includes both potential and performance. Valle's performance suggests that he will not make the adjustments needed to be successful at the ML level.
You say its ridiculous to call Quinn and Tocci better prospects than Valle. Does that mean you would trade either of those players before letting Valle go? Because that, I think, would be ridiculous.
That's beyond absurd. I think you must just be trolling. I'm not even going to go into detail as to the reasons, except to say that, even with a poor season, Quinn would still be a top 15 prospect, and Tocci top 30. With a poor season. Valle falls outside of the top 30. And personally I think Valle is much more likely to have a poor season than either of the other two guys.
"except to say that, even with a poor season, Quinn would still be a top 15 prospect, and Tocci top 30"
Then Jim Callis was being too generous in rating the Scammies farm system as #26 in the game.
Quinn will be 20 years old on May 14th. If he posts an OPS below .700 at Lakewood a line is drawn through his name and you move on. To be the hot prospect people here and elsewhere are trying to make him out to be Roman Quinn has to put up 450 PA with an OPS above .800.
No. God, AEC, you are a moron. He absolutely, no doubt about it, could recover from that.
A player with an 80 speed tool, who at least semes to have other decent tools, absolutely can afford a detour in the road. It's true that you don't put short season players in the top ten based upon performance alone, but perfoemance and tools and scouting combined, yes you do. Absolutely. Even if not for Quinn ((and yes for Quinn, he is justifiably in everyone's top 10), then certainly routinely, for many, many other players.
Tocci is a guy with a lot more uncertainty who deserves a lower ranking (and gets it). But at his age, he could have TWO down years and stillc ome back to have a career.
Here's the thing, – for brains – what's more likely:
(1)Every single scout, scouting expert and reasonable intelligent person who follows the game is wrong; or
(2) – AEC is wrong.
– Edited and approve, watch the language
"A player with an 80 speed tool, who at least semes to have other decent tools, absolutely can afford a detour in the road."
An 80 speed tool and a good glove – something Quinn does not yet have – equals a utility player. If we assume that the team in question is after a World Series flag.
Given that Dave $$$ Montgomery has made this a point and has proven himself to be a LIAR by his own words published on the Phillies web site, then maybe your analysis of Quinn is correct in the Scammies world.
I'm not a follower or fan of the Dave Montgomery and the Scammies. I'm a booster of the Phillies. As such either you can rake, or you're a fake.
LarryM, you are right, there are about 12 prospects that should be ranked ahead of Valle. For me, there are also about 8 more that can be reasonably argued. That group includes Darin Ruf, Austin Wright, T Gillies, Z Collier, C Hernandez, M Gueller, DeFratus and Cozens. If your saying that Sebastian Valle (a 22 year old catcher in AAA, that has never been left back) does not have as much value as any one of those 8 players, I say that is false.
Valle has more prospect value than Hernandez and Collier, IMO. De Fratus' upside as a 7th/8th inning reliever doesn't justify conclusively, that he is the better prospect. Mitch Gueller doesn't have the pedigree and hasn't done anything to warrant being placed ahead of Valle.
Valle's BB% is horrendous. I get that. But he is a catcher, and his offensive developement can not be based on the same standards as other players. His prospect value comes from DEFENCE. You say, that if he could get his production 5%-20% BB/K, that would change your opinion. I don't think that is far out of the realm of possibility, if the Phillies or another team lets him play in AA in 2013, at age 22.
Kratz won't need more than two games off before Chooch is back. Lots of off days early and he's not the starter so he doesn't have to be paced to last. He'll be getting lots of rest for five months of the season.
I'd like Valle to have the chance to start in the Majors. He is already on the 40-man and gives him a chance to get his some time with the pros.
That way Phillies can say what a great job he has done, that he looks like a pro, blah, blah, and try to bump up his prospect value. Or he actually does look great and Phillies decide he is a valuable piece to hold onto.
He might only get 3 to 5 starts but I think it would be good for him, and it leaves Joseph to start those games in LHV at C.
Not that Quintero/Lerud are valuable pieces, but putting either one of them on the 40-man will expose the team to lose them when Ruiz comes back. Again not a big deal, but it might be nice for the pitching staff in the minors to know the catchers from Spring Training on through the season.
Why would Rube sign Lopez as a starter at Lehigh. His best Era is over 5 last couple years..
Just another arm to throw into the mix. Trading May likely puts us a starter down in the upper minors.
I know, but Lopez. Minor was good filler. They didn't dump on the previous manager like that.
I would love for him to start the season with the Phil's. He would hold his own defensively. How would the Pitchers like it? Some primadonnas there.
Our starting staff consists of 4 consummate professionals and an unknown (Lannan/Pettibone/other). The 5th starter will either not have enough clout to matter, and/or would be Pettibone who would be used to Valle as his catcher. So I must assume you are talking about our BP arms as being "primadonnas." In the BP we have Mike Adams, Paps, and a bunch of young guys who Valle has likely caught for before. So who are you talking about, Adams or Paps? Because they're both elite relievers and I doubt they give a damn who their catcher is as long as he can make the plays.
The top 3.
Gillies and Aumont made team Canada for the WBC: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20130113_Phillies_sign_Rodrigo_Lopez.html
So did Pete Orr make the Canook team.
Thomas Neal was designated for assignment by Cleveland yesterday. By no means do I think he is any sort of answer in the outfield, I just figured that he would be good depth to have in AAA. He is 25, put up decent numbers and if any outfielder goes down, there is no one in AAA to call up. (unless you are happy with Mini Mart) Anyway, thought he'd be worth a look.
I think Phillies have some decent 4th OF types in AAA. I'd start Ruf there at LF, Gillies at CF, and Castro in RF. Jiwan James could fill in at any spot if one of the guys gets called up.
The guy from the A's system might have some upside, and someone decided to reside Mitchell.
I'm really sick of reading posts on boards about the "luxury tax". I even hate that name and never use it myself. It's a payroll tax, and it's not nearly enough to have any concern over its existence.
Let's say Dave $$$ Montgomery was not a LIAR and the Phillies signed Aramis Ramirez last winter and Josh Hamilton this winter. Let's say the Phillies had a payroll of $200 million three years from now (Halladay won't be getting checks here anymore). The threshold will be $189 million. A 50% tax is only on the the money over that limit, not the whole payroll (that would make it significant).
So we're talking about five and half million dollars in tax, less than the Phillies paid Polanco to be a below replacement level player. About what the Scammies paid Wigginton, Nix and Pierre to do nothing. What did Blanton make, $10 million?
It's paying MLB rubbish – and plenty of it – money to occupy roster space that kills you as far as spending is concerned, not "big contracts" for guys who produce well above replacement level.
Everyone seems to think Mike Adams is a great signing. $6 million a year for a 33yr old 8th inning reliever. I would be comfortable going with Bastardo and Aumont. There are plenty of others on the farm who could be brought up too. The problem with the Phillies pen in 2012 was the Scammies lineup that couldn't score runs so the trash of the pen got lots of work and the Phillies lost most of their extra inning games while Papelbon watched from the pen.
Aramis Ramirez and Josh Hamilton were the answer, not Mike Adams, Michael Young and Ben Revere.
Its what happens when you invest 40 million dollars into a closer. Papelbon was a stupid signing plain and simple.
Hmmm Dave $$$ Montgomery and the Scammies…, forgot John Stinkberry JR….I wonder who Anonymous is…. even though you make some coherent points, your hate really takes away from any type of credibility you have.
AEC…..just fork over your money for 2013 tickets, I did, your turn.
I have never said that the Phillies would stay below the luxury cap because the tax was a huge amount of money that the team couldn't afford. I have said the Phillies will stay below the cap, because the support the commissioner and his attempts to set a salary structure for baseball. That is the same reason they stuck with what the commissioner wanted them to spend on the draft, when there was zero penalty for exceeding the informal guidelines. They think they are acting in the best interests of baseball. Likely they also remember the days when the Phillies were noncompetitive, because they were short on $. I fully concede that the Phillies have enough revenue to afford a $200 mill budget and the multi-year luxury tax that goes with that budget. The owners don't think that is the proper thing to do and they won't allow RA to do it.
Don't look at revenue or wealth or future revenue. Look at the Phillies past behavior. They have never exceeded even a suggested cap. They wasted the #2 pick in the draft 'for the good of baseball'. These guys see themselves as super moral boyscouts. They won't bend the rules to get to the WS.
Wouldn't they also lose their top pick?
It is sickening to think that this could/should be our starting lineup.
The Phillies would be the World Series favorite and easily win the N.L. East by more than a half dozen games.
So the Phillies ownership has essentially handicapped the team to support a socialist scheme for billionaires so they can put their feet up at the country club, sip a gin and tonic and watch the profits roll in by the tens of millions of dollars each year.
How far removed from "Eight Men Out" is this?
Jonathan Mayo, http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=phi, listed his top 20 Phillies prospects on Sep 6, right after the 2012 minor league season ended. "With the Minor League regular season completed and September callups being made, MLB.com has re-ranked its Top 100 Prospects and each club's Top 20 Prospects. " I am reporting this list, not because I agree or disagree with it, but just because it is another of the mainstream, nationally recognized reference that I liked reading to help me make my personal rankings. The * and + are mine to denote lefties and switch hitters. The first 2 columns show the 2012 pre-season and post 2012 post-season ranks. NR are players unranked specifically as Phillies prospects, although many were ranked on another team or in the overall top 100. I was interested in the biggest changes from the pre-season to post-season. Surprisingly to me, Franco moved down from 9th in the pre-season 2012 top 20 to 17th in the current postseason 2012 top 20, from ahead of Pettibone, Rodriguez, Quinn, Hernandez, Walding, Gueller, Watson and Asche, to behind them. Walding went from unranked to 14th. Hernandez went from 14th to 9th. Mayo builds a case for Colvin being the Phillies second best prospect. "Despite a rough couple of seasons, Colvin still has pure stuff and a projectable pitcher's body that would be the envy of many a pitching prospect. His fastball is plus at times, up into the mid-90s with good sink that generates ground balls. Both his curve and his changeup have the chance to be very good secondary pitches, and he's shown a better feel for the offspeed pitch in the past then many his age. His command suffered during most of two full seasons with Class A Advanced Clearwater, but the Phillies saw enough to challenge him with a promotion to Double-A Reading on July 30."
Mar Sep
'12 '12
2 1 Jesse Biddle*
3 2 Brody Colvin
NR 3 Joseph, Tommy
4 4 Larry Greene*
5 5 Phillippe Aumont
6 6 Sebastian Valle
NR 7 Martin, Ethan
NR 8 Shane Watson
14 9 Cesar Hernandez+
10 10 Jon Pettibone
11 11 Roman Quinn+
7 12 Justin DeFratus
16 13 Julio Rodriguez
NR 14 Mitchell Walding*
NR 15 Mitch Gueller
NR 16 Cody Asche*
9 17 Maikel Franco
NR 18 Darin Ruf
12 19 Aaron Altherr
NR 20 Lino, Gabriel
15 NR Leandro Castro
17 NR Perci Garner
18 NR Ethan Stewart
19 NR Jiwan James+
NR NR Adam Morgan*
NR NR Carlos Tocci
NR NR Cloyd, Tyler
NR NR Tyson Gillies*
NR NR Austin Wright*
NR NR Kenny Giles
For the accompanying article discussing the Phillies top 20 prospects, see: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120906&content_id=37988942&vkey=news_phi&c_id=phi
For information on how this list was put together and on the MLB top 100, see: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120905&content_id=37948926&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Man, get off it. Your making yourself look ridiculous.
I refuse to give any credence to a Phillies prospect list that puts Altherr ahead of Morgan. That's just crazy- or an automatic shifting based on preseason rankings to get the right guys with the right teams.
Yeah, it's not a good list. Possibly the worst of the 'professional' rankings I've seen. He is way too high on Colvin. Colvin may well retrieve his strong prospect status, but he isn't there now, the past two seasons have seen to that. If he's going on talent, Morgan and Giles can't be NR. That's just silly. Asche and Franco are way low I can forgive him Quinn, based on proximity, but can't see Greene above Quinn. Both catchers, and I like both of them as prospects, seem high. If Colvin is our #2 prospect, then we are just about the weakest minor league system in baseball.
Yeah, really. How could J-Rod be ahead of Morgan? It would make no sense if it were a recent list that any real thought went in to.
I agree. All those problems you pointed out are glaring errors, but not having Morgan was the most immediate and egregious to me. On second thought, Colvin nine spots above Quinn is pretty atrocious too. Or over Joseph…
It's pretty clear that he's not doing much more than what Matt suggested, since some of the rankings make so little sense, and since there is so little movement apart from adding/subtracting players acquired or either no longer with the organization, or who have graduated from prospect status.
What it looks like to me – and really this gives Mayo the benefit of the doubt – is that he starts with basically just making the adgustments set forth above, and then in a few cases – presumably with players on this "radar" – he does some cursory re-ranking. Actually, I'm being VERY generous, as some of the ranking don't even make THAT much sense. I mean, Cesar Hernandez jumps 4 spots in the rankings, over Quinn and Pettibone? I don't think either ranking passes the laugh test even in isolation, but juxtiposing it with the May rankings is even more bizzare – if Hernandez is behind those guys in May, he sure as heck is behind them in September.
Though it's more embarrassing for Mayo than for you. You're just stubbornly sticking to your original point for whatever reason. Mayo, by claiming to have done a serious re-ranking when he clearly has not, is trashing his own professional reputation.
My main point is pass this information on including the fact that mlb.com is claiming these rankings were done in September and that the prospects do seem to be re-ranked from the beginning of the season I think the list is provocative and I enjoy reading the discussion it provokes. I agree that Morgan seems like a gross oversight, but other than that his opinions seem reasonable and well presented. None of the Phillies prospects are blue-chippers. They all carry risk either of proximity (even Biddle hasn't pitched above A ball) or holes in their skill-sets, so there really is not much difference in value between #2 and #20. I understand his reasoning in having Colvin #2. Mayo has thought highly of him since 2011 so he is being consistent in still liking him. Colvin is still young and is relatively young to be pitching in AA. If he indeed does have high upside tools and 3 potential plus pitchers as a starter than is he really any more of a long-shot to be a major league star than Quinn, who has yet to play above Williamsport or show that he can handle shortstop? It may be that Mayo is preferring proximity, which would also explain him liking Hernandez and J-Rod better than Franco. Mayo explained that he like Hernandez because he moved quickly from low A to AAA in under 2 seasons while showing a good glove, good base-running, and good on-base skills. He said we need to be patient with Franco but that he has star potential. I prefer to think of this list as another point of view from a national perspective rather than just a sloppy job.
We get your point. But your point is wrong. You say "I understand his reasoning in having Colvin #2." Your problem is assuming that there is any "reasoning" going on, at all. I disagree with your analysis on that point – I think it's howling obvious that no sensible person could see Colvin as the number 2 prospect in the sytem – but there are just SO MANY obviously wrong rankings in that list, worse than that even, that is is obvious that it is not a serious updating. Ironiclly Mayo himself would probably be horrified that anyone was taking these interim rankings seriously. Honestly someone who knew nothing about the system and just picked names at random could do a better ranking. Okay, that's an exageration but not by much.
Reminds me of this:
"K: Are my methods unsound?
W: I don't see any method at all, sir. "
Hey Larry, that wasn't me.
Someone is impersonating me.
It is not automatic shifting since players reversed positions relative to each other. He may have overlooked Morgan, but isn't it at least as likely that he has Morgan at #21, 2 spots behind Altherr? While I would rank Morgan higher, I would not call it crazy not to. Isn't it possible that Mayo just doesn't believe in Morgan as highly as you do based on just 37 starts in pro-ball and just 6 of those in AA? Morgan was not a college star, so it is not crazy for Mayo to still want him to prove himself. In 3 years at Alabama, Morgan had a 16-14 record in 47 appearances. In his final season he posted a 5-7 record with a 4.64 earned run average, making 16 starts, throwing 97.0 innings with 77 strikeouts, 26 walks and a .278 opponent's batting average. Of Altherr, who is a year younger than Morgan, Mayo wrote, "He still has as high a ceiling as anyone in the system."
Ughh guys this list is old. This years list hasnt been made yet.
Thanks I didn't know he had updated it. Does he do all 20 teams. That would explain why he is so on about some players and lost on others.
It's not 1960. There are more than 20 teams now.
He released updates of the top-20 lists of 30 teams on Sep 6, as well as the overall top 100 and a ranking of the top 10 systems in terms of "prospect points." Seattle was #1 with Pittsburgh just 1 point behind. Philadelphia was not top 10.
Hey, this was not me.
I'm being impersonated.
What is so funny is that . you can list the prospect all you want but morgan,unless he gets hurt will pitch in the big leagues,he has major stuff and the makeup to be a starter, now is he going to be a 1 or 5 i couldnt say.
How does he have Walding moved up. I agree with that, but greene and Rodriguiz are ridiculess…Its like he knows a little but not enough about the org. I wish I knew more about another org to see if he is just as lost on other orgs. I even see his Colvin point and agree.
Stop impersonating me.
Do you also lose a high draft pick if you excede the Lux tax threshold I thought I read that once ,but can't remember when it kicks in.
you might be thinking of exceeding the draft allotment.
I believe you do, but only after a few consecutive years of exceeding the threshold..not sure.
No, you do not lose a pick. The financial penalty escalates if you go over the lux tax in multiple consecutive seasons.
No, you are flat out wrong.
You're wrong because you get your information from this site and those who delete and edit posts here allow this ignorance to pass uncorrected because it supports the policies of the SCAMMIES
The Dodgers will never lose a draft pick for exceeding the payroll limit.
My goodness…FreeAec is correct….Now, the luxury tax rate itself is not such a deterrent that it would prevent the Phillies from adding payroll during the season. A team that eclipses the threshold for the first time is charged 17.5 percent of every dollar they spend over the limit. So right now, if the Phillies' cap number is $179.64 million (benefit charge included), they would pay an additional charge of just $725,000, which is 17.5 percent of $4.14 million (the amount they would be over the cap). You wouldn't expect that they would let under $1 million stop them from acquiring a player they valued highly. The bigger ramification would be their status as a second-time offender next season, which would bump the penalty rate to 30 percent. Third-time offenders pay 40 percent. Fifth-time offenders pay 50 percent.
The Phillies probably could afford the 50% penalty. They are a high revenue team and will get a bigger TV contract. THose who see this as being about money are totally wrong, in my opinon. The Phillies brass have always supported the commissioner's efforts to establish a financial framework for baseball in which teams don't go crazy on spending and smaller teams have a better chance to compete. They are doing what they are doing because they want to support what they see as the good of baseball. Bill Giles got permission to assemble this ownership group because his father was a baseball exec. Giles is loyal to the commish through and through and this likely has rubbed off on the other owners or may have been one of the screening conditions as he took on partners. Giles is no longer managing partner, but I think a lot of his philosophy still permeates the ownership. The Phillies have never exceeded what the commish wanted them to spend on the draft as a whole. To the great detriment of the team, they have not been big international spenders. Likely Selig guides the teams in that direction. The Phillies owners are not the brash entrepreneurs with a burning desire to establish a name for themselves as owners and push the voluntary and semi-voluntary constraints aside to win. They see themselves as gentleman aristocrats. They are very conservative mainliners who likely look askance at giving $ million bonus to some kid from Latin America. I can't really call the owners cheapskates, because they always seemed to budget up to the breakeven point when the team was not flush in money.
What is a fair trade for upton now that we have a rough idea that we know what Arizona wants.
I am thinking,
Quinn or Galvis
1 of these three Schwimmer, Defratus, Rosenberg
What are they going to do with Brown?
Biddle, Morgan, Galvis and Giles.
Nick Franklin is a very good middle infield prospect that the Phillies do not have. The Diamondbacks would have to take a better starting pitching package in the deal and accept Galvis with his PED conviction.
But Upton is another enigma. A better enigma than Brown but he does not solve the problem. You just don't have any idea what you'll get.
Hunter Pence was a question mark at best given his poor walk rate and it turned out he had no "intangibles" that made his skill set play, just the opposite really; and oh what a price the Phillies paid for Pence. If the Phillies still have Singleton and Santana they are firmly in the hunt for Giancarlo Stanton who is the answer.
Biddle doesn't equal Tajuan Walker. You have give Biddle, Morgan and Joseph just to get close to that one player's value. Then you would have give Quinn to get close Franklin's value. Basically you would have to trade nearly the whole top 10 to get Upton, because they don't have the blue chip piece.
I agree with some of this. Upton seems troubled. The grass is always greener in the other guy's ballpark. Pence did nada to push the Phillies over the top and in the end, I think the Phillies were extremely disappointed in him. I don't think you can go out and buy the answer. To have a true team, you need to basically home grow it with very strategic additions. We have just witnessed the Eagles' attempt to buy their way over the top with the 'dream team' end up throwing them nearly into the cellar and driving the architect of that plan out of town. It is very difficult to paper over the deficiencies in a team's core. Vick was the core and he was hollow. Adding pieces around that didn't do a lot. A lot of what was acquired at great expense after massive coveting turned out to be the dross we saw in our defensive backfield for two seasons. The Phillies need to get out of the quick fix mentality and work on building a solid team. They have the starting pitching there and on the way. Nothing they can do to add position players will do more than learning how to keep Utley healthy and teaching/persuading Howard to go the other way. Beyond that, use the first half of the year to see if we have anything in Brown/Ruf/Mayberry/Revere and correct at the trade deadline. See if Asche is ready to move up. I think we'll be needing a replacement for our ancient mariner at 3B. That was a truly desperation move, but YOung will have us thinking both Asche and Franco have the greatest range ever seen at 3B by comparison. There are a lot of kids to audition for the pen, but the Phillies have the makings of a really good bullpen. Coupled with the SP and the improved CF D, we may significantly reduce the runs scored against us from last season.
"I don't think you can go out and buy the answer. To have a true team, you need to basically home grow it with very strategic additions."
The Yankees became the "storied team" by purchasing Babe Ruth and never reexamined that decision. How many World Series flags did George Steinbrenner capture while he owned the team? Every flag was purchased.
Since the end of the 1994 season the Yankees have missed the playoffs once. 1994 was a strike year and the Yankees were rolling toward a division title then as well playing .619 baseball.
Aramis Ramirez and Josh Hamilton would not be "strategic additions"?
The Yankees have been no more successful than the Phillies over the past decade and seem to have concluded that a build from within approach makes more sense. They were not huge FA buyers this off-season. The Babe Ruth Yankees were in a different era. The Yankees did not give top minor league talent to buy Ruth and others, they basically acquired them for money and crap from other owners facing bankruptcy. The salary, even for a Ruth, was not astronomical, even adjusted for inflation. That was an era in which teams could sign any amateur they wished for whatever he would accept.
D-Backs want to start with a ' ready-to-go' shortstop, ie Simmons, and plenty of pitching. They do not need anymore outfielders.
Fair trade value may have little to do with what Arizona wants.
walden , why dont you just tell arizona to give us upton. only one semi legit prospect in your trade quinn. and thats a stretch, we could offer arizona biddle, morgan.quinn. galvis. joseph. and aumont and they wouldnt take it. we dont have a potential player who has upton talent.. forget upton,
Roman Quinn by himself would be enough for Justin Upton don't you think?
FreeAEC eat your Quinn hating heart out..hahahttp://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/roman-quinn-a-better-billy-hamilton/
hah. Mike Newman loves himself some Quinn. Together with the fact that Quinn is #2 on BA's top 10 as well as the readers and FreeAEC is really on island by himself with the Quinn hate.
Who cares what is written on fan graphs?
What matters is the stats on baseball-reference and that says that Roman Quinn was 19 years old on May 14th 2012 and he was in the Florida Instructional League on that date awaiting the beginning of the short season New York Penn league to begin.
Was someone blocking Quinn at Lakewood? Why don't you tell us who that was? Publish their astonishing hitting stats for us. Who was the stud talent blocking Roman Quinn at Lakewood in 2012?
But you've convinced me that Quinn is a real talent anyway, so I expect the 20 year old Quinn to have a .900+ OPS at Lakewood on May 31st and for Quinn to be promoted to Clearwater and continue to punish the baseball.
Anything less would be a massive disappointment.
Wow you are an idiot
Hey guys – I have to apologize for Free AEC. I've known him for some time and he's down on his luck. He worked at a dominoes pizza with me but his job has been outsourced. I'm being serious.
So please go easy on him. This is really all he has.
Any takers for back-end of rotation guys like Livan Hernandez or Scott Kazmir? Livan is an innings eater and Scott was eaten -up by the innings, but now is trying to revitalize his career.
We just got one in Rodrigo Lopez. He's been pitching really well in Mexico btw.
Kazmir already signed a minor league deal elsewhere.
Kazmir to the Indians on a minor league deal.
FreeAEC, I don't understand what your angle is…You want the Phillies to "come clean" with their draft spending intentions, you bemoan the fact that our system is terrible because of it, and then when one of the guys is starting to make a nice case for himself among the prospect rankings, you dismiss that because it can't compute in your ideological baseball prospect nirvana.
I guess He'd only be worth following if the Phillies gave him a 5M signing bonus in the 10th round. Whatever the case, you have a twisted sense of reality, and sorry to say you're nothing close to a scout. I'll take their word before your nonsense any day of the week. You seem like the type that will never be happy regardless of what the Phillies do, which makes me think your issues go way deeper than a professional baseball organization. Sorry to all for that.
There has never been any mystery about the Phillies draft spending intentions. They have always spent on the draft as a whole almost exactly what Selig has suggested they should spend on bonuses, even when the Selig # was a very casual suggestion. Going forward, we can assume that they will spend at or just below the ceiling that the new agreement between baseball and its players provides. They will not go into penalty territory, neither on the draft nor on major league salary budget. "Come clean" is a juvenile demand. All organizations make statements with the interest of preserving their reputation and fostering what they expect will be positive PR. Simply discount the words and follow the extremely consistent actions. Past behavior is a far better guide to future behavior than comments from team owners and officials. Those comments are made for a reason and that reason is not to give fans a look into the organization's bared soul. These statements should be viewed as unpaid advertising.
Well there's this…Nats sign Rafael Soriano 2 years $28 mil. Besides being outrageously over priced, they have one hell of a complete team now.
Go away.
I really believe that the phillies better start drafting better. Washington is a serious team with money to spend. and atlanta has drafted well for years. we must start getting some elite talent into our system. instead of trying to make guys like alther and others more than they are , if we want to win consistanly, we must groom replacement for aging players, its a must. and i really dont know if amaro is the right guy for the job. I know peope will come back with we drafted low in the first round. but so does ny and boston, yet they have better systems , texas has drafted well too, the giants keep getting pitching, from there system. free agency is for that missing piece.right now we have howard, utley, rollins, ruiz from our system starting, where are there replacements, i mean rollins was drafted in 99, so in all those years the best replacement is galvis??? utley was drafted in 01 i believe, were is his replacement.?and howard where is his replacement, and dont give me the drug addict who got suspend, he hasnt proven anything , but that he is stupid. ruiz replacement is valle who is rip everyday on here and joseph is praise,because a scout likes him. and he was gotten in a trade, not homegrown. in all these years no outfielders, only gose,, who we traded, berry was let go. so either we misjudged him or he is a one year wonder. so personal decison must be better imo
who is the drug addict howard replacement?
I think thats a reference to Singleton?
There is no doubt that they can always do better and that would help but I actually think that, recently, they have been doing a pretty decent job of drafting and developing players. Although you can get into a pretty serious debate about whether they have properly leveraged those drafts through trades and the like – the Pence trade will likely not turn out well although how we feel about that in the long run will depend on how Tommy Joseph (the player we later traded Pence to get) turns out.
Knowing that the Phillies developed a great core of players through the draft, a few weeks ago I went back through their picks on baseball reference to see whether the old regime (around 2004 or 2005 and before) drafted better than the current regime. What I found was interesting. With a few exceptions, prior to around 2004 or 2005, what you find is that the Phillies did not have deep drafts – very rarely were they producing more than one player in a draft who had any real major league career. And most of the players who hit were first or second rounders. But when they hit, they hit big – really big – with players like Rolen, Rollins, Utley, Howard, and Hamels. I think some of this was wise drafting and some of it was good draft positions. The other thing you realize is that the team rarely had FA signings that deprived them of first round picks and they almost never traded their highly regarded prospects players for more established players – this is consistent with an organization that is bulding and is trying to keep payroll down.
When you look at the drafts since around 2007 or 2008, you realize that, due to the success of the big league team and more frequent signing of FAs, the team has more rarely had first round picks and when it did, the picks were uneven – some, such as Biddle and d'Arnaud were great and others such as Hewitt were big busts. But what you see on the whole with the drafts in the last 6 or 7 years, is that the Phillies are hitting on more and more later round picks. Hewitt aside (and, yes, that was a pretty big miss), the 2008 class is likely to be very good and deep class and the 2011 class is looking similarly good. The biggest change of all is that the Phillies have seemingly learned how to draft pitchers – it is staggering how much better they have become at identifying and developing young pitchers. For years and years, there was nothing, then, slowly, they hit on a few pitchers – Wolf, Madsen, Myers, Hamels – and now, the system is teeming with good young arms. It's encouraging.
roccom…relax….cycles, baseball is cycles. Our time will come again. BTW…Rangers, Atlanta and Yankees were top spenders in the international market thus giving them surplus talent in their systems and more flexibility in trades. New CBA with its cap, has leveled the playing field when it comes to the International market now. Phillies' scouting will make a difference. Hopefully they do not get too frugal.
Aaron Cook…God, I pray for no scenario in which he ends up pitching for the Phils in 2013
they are looking at couple more veteran starters i heard. roatation of cook. and kenrick, cloyd is second to none.
Those who like Crashburn alley likely have already read this, and those who don't, won't, but this is a great article:
No so much for the conclusions, which one might or might not agree with (and which are a little depressing if you do agree), but more for insights on the process that sites like BP use in making their rankings, and for insights on the gap between success in AAA and success in the majors.
The "experts" don't always get it right, but when they miss, it's usually on the side of overestimating a player's chances rather than the reverse.
Jason Parks let it fly. Skepticism about Quinn's future at ss surprised me, along with Larry Greene's final destination at first-base.
Well that was horribly depressing. From the sounds of it you'd think he has the Phillies system right near the bottom in all of baseball.
Utley looks ready. Jim Salisbury reports: According to Amaro, Utley is now doing baseball activity five days a week. Scott Sheridan, the Phillies' head athletic trainer, is watching Utley's workouts this week in California. "Chase is doing very, very well," Amaro said Wednesday. "Scott has been with him the last couple of days and he says Chase looks great and is feeling great. We hope it continues."
Good to hear as the Phillies season success depends on his recovery along with Ryan Haoward and Roy Hallady.
Isn't this pretty much exactly what Salisbury and the Phillies said about Utley at this time last winter?
I said it before and will say it again greene is like brown. slow bat. not a great prospect,agree on biddle, i know people who have seen him, in the philadelphia league and legion ball, these are the same people who told me the orioles were nuts to take billy rowland i think thats how you spell it, with the ninth pick, he wasnt anything special and they were right, they only are college guys who teach hitting and fielding at my sons hitting lessons, but they coach legion ball, and see all these local kids a lot, they had trout hitting there too, but we never talked about him. point is i said it the other night, the phillies need to draft better, or they will be spending a ton in freeagency and never catch the braves or national. we are trying to make these kids look better than they really are, so this draft is really important,
Don't agree on your point about Brown having a slow bat. Some guys are indecisive in what they swing at which can make them look slow. When Brown goes for a pitch he's looking for, there's nothing slow about it. He can and has pulled some real shots.
Lou Marson will earn $1 MM next year. Good for him.
I feel like I've slept through the whole semester and the final is today. Let me get this straight, the Phillies essentially chose Revere and Lannon over Victorino, Worley and May.
Yeah that and about $35m over the next 3 years
Yeah. They decided that it was better to pay Ben Revere 500K for the 2.4 WAR he was worth in 2012, rather than pay Victorino 13m per, for the 2.4. WAR he was worth in 2012.
The price was a #4-5 starter and a prospect that is headed for the bullpen. The Phillies have guys capable of being 4-5 starters, they have guys capable of bullpen pieces. They aren't hard to get.
Worley is better than a #4/5 starter and May likely is a future major league starter. Let's not use the 'good riddance to bad rubbish' on our former players once they've left. May had an off year. Prior to that, he was our top pitching prospect. He still has the electric arm. He and Martin exchanged seasons. Don't expect them not to flip again. And no, Worleys and Mays are not easy to get.
Worley is absolutely a replaceable arm on the Phillies. Let's not act like Worley was an ace here, because he wasn't.
You're kidding yourself if you think Worely was anymore than a 4-5 starter going forward.
Victorino went for an incredible money offer in Beantown. 29 teams missed out on that. I had a distant relative who missed out on a ride on the Titanic. Some mistakes you get to live through. I think we'll survive Victorino. I think we'll know pretty quickly what we have in Revere. Too early to rip the trade. We'll have some idea by June. Not excited at all about Lannan. I've seen enough of his pitching to think there were (and still are) better options out there. Next time you wake up we can discuss Michael Young if you like. While you were away, he became a Philly.
So did Michael Adams for the 8th inning.
million for marson, as a backup, who cant hit, make your sons a catcher, i wish i would have done it.
Former Phil prospect Adam Buschini making a comeback. Hand healed last year. Can pop the ball now.
He was playing this summer (our Winter) in Australia.
this is way off subject, but i was bored so I put in top baseball wifes, and my new favorite player is swimmer, you should see his girl, wowowwo
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LOS ANGELES (AP) Danny Green hit the go-ahead 3-pointer with 9.3 seconds left, Tony Parker scored 19 points and the San Antonio Spurs beat Los Angeles 84-82 Tuesday night in the Lakers' first loss since firing coach Mike Brown.
After Pau Gasol missed a 3-pointer, Tiago Splitter's hustle prevented the Lakers from controlling the rebound before the buzzer sounded on Los Angeles' first game since hiring Mike D'Antoni late Sunday night. Interim coach Bernie Bickerstaff ran the team for the third straight game.
Tim Duncan had 18 points and 11 rebounds for the Spurs, who improved the Western Conference's best record to 7-1 thanks to Green's third 3-pointer of the night.
Kobe Bryant had 28 points and eight rebounds for the Lakers, who dropped to 3-5 after committing 17 turnovers on a poor shooting night. Dwight Howard had 13 points and 15 rebounds.
The Lakers found another kind of drama in their first game since the club surprisingly bypassed 11-time NBA champion Phil Jackson to hire D'Antoni, who is expected to arrive in Los Angeles on Wednesday. The Lakers' crowd cheered for Bickerstaff, but never broke out into the ``We want Phil!'' chants that occurred in their past two games.
Both teams struggled with poor shooting until the final minutes, when Antawn Jamison's 3-pointer from the corner put the Lakers ahead 78-77 with 2:10 to play. Duncan reclaimed the lead with a jumper, but Gasol hit two free throws with 1:36 left and added an elbow jumper.
Duncan trimmed the lead to one point before Metta World Peace missed an open jumper in the final minute. The Spurs worked the ball to Green out of a timeout, and the guard confidently drained his 3-pointer, accidentally bumping Bryant during his celebration.
The Lakers' final possession developed poorly, and the 7-foot Gasol had to force up a 3-point attempt.
Despite the loss, several days of upheaval finally abated Tuesday for the Lakers - even though their new coach still isn't in town. The Lakers haven't said when D'Antoni will formally take over the team, and Bickerstaff could still be running the bench Friday when the Phoenix Suns visit Staples Center.
And though Jackson has criticized the Lakers' handling of his candidacy, the players who had been eager to play for the Zen Master seem equally eager to line up for D'Antoni. Bryant and Steve Nash enthusiastically endorsed D'Antoni's hiring at the morning shootaround, with Bryant downplaying the notion that the Lakers' defense would suffer during the offense-minded coach's tenure.
The Lakers played without point guard Steve Blake, who has a minor abdominal strain. Blake had started the Lakers' last five games in place of Nash, who will be out for another week or more with a small fracture in his leg.
Darius Morris had one point on 0-for-5 shooting in his first career NBA start in Blake's place, while veteran backup Chris Duhon managed five points. The Lakers played without a point guard down the stretch, with World Peace defending Parker while Bryant largely orchestrated the Lakers' offense.
While the Lakers wait for a regime change on the bench, they've improved the effort that partly led to Brown's firing - and the Lakers aren't running Brown's much-debated, Princeton-based offense, sticking largely to pickup-ball sets on offense since the coach's departure.
NOTES: The Lakers barely exceeded the 80 points they scored in February 1999 during their lowest-scoring performance ever in their first 146 meetings with the Spurs. ... DeJuan Blair scored six points for the Spurs while playing on a bruised left knee. ... World Peace celebrated his 33rd birthday. The eccentric forward said he has enjoyed multiple birthday parties over the past few days. ... Floyd Mayweather Jr., Minnesota Vikings lineman Matt Kalil and David Beckham attended the game.