Clay Shirky: Does the Internet Make You Smarter? - <AUTHOR> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284973472694334.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_lifeStyle

<comment><USER2> It certainly makes people read and write more. When I was a teen (and the Internet wasn't mainstream), most of my friends didn't write or type a single word that wasn't for school purposes. I think that was pretty typical.

Now? The average 13 year old seems to give the average Gen Y'er a run for their money on the keyboard skills, and they're pumping out all sorts of text. There's been an explosion in written communications between semi-literate types that would have been alien to us back in the early 90s.

<comment><USER3> The article doesn't really address the question posed in the sexy title, as you begin to do. The kind of proliferation of writing that worried Luther and then Poe and now the "pessimists" mentioned here presents readers with the intellectual challenge of figuring out what's really authoritative or just good versus what's throwaway. Poe apparently thought that was an evil, but maybe meeting that challenge does make people smarter, even if the sci journal vs. erotic fiction opposition makes it seem easy (I don't want to throw away the M. de Sade!). "How is the internet changing the way you think?" is an Edge question. <http://edge.org/q2010/q10_index.html>

<comment><USER2> _presents readers with the intellectual challenge of figuring out what's really authoritative or just good versus what's throwaway_

Call me a pessimistic optimist. I think the proliferation of even throwaway writing is a good thing _but_ I judiciously use the domain name of a page to determine whether it's throwaway or not ;-)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1406664>

</comment><comment><USER5> I think he's making arguments that the Internet is making us more knowledgeable (which is obvious) rather than smarter. Nick Carr's argument was more that persistent multitasking is damaging our ability to think.

It's possible that technology will make us both dumber and more knowledgeable.

</comment><comment><USER6> Again... similar tactic as of the "is silicon valley dead" post. attention! attention... thats all they want... for the fsckng CTR

<comment><USER2> Suggest HN: Ignore any query strings on the end of URLs when working out what links are unique on HN. This would cut down on dupes containing tracking portions like this.

<comment><USER7> Many sites' articles' addresses are only unique in the query string. For example, HN's own discussion pages would all be considered <http://news.ycombinator.com/item>.

<comment><USER8> Why not something that pops up when you submit that says "Looks like your post could be a copy of these other stories. If yours is different, please check this box." And if you don't check the box, and your story is a copy, the system kills the link and hands all the karma to the original story.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> i think it makes you dumberer</comment>


Biz Stone: Introducing Jelly, a New Search Engine - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/the-biz-stone-collection/introducing-jelly-a-new-search-engine-47e2594ad3ff#.55fyv7ivk <comment><USER2> Isn't this the exact same thing as aardvark, which google bought and killed?

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardvark_(search_engine)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardvark_\(search_engine\))

</comment><comment><USER3> This appears to be a reboot of Yahoo Answers.</comment>


Ask HN: Anybody using Facebook email? - <AUTHOR>

Some time ago, not sure when exactly, Facebook announced that they are going to give emails to everyone. It was big news at the time. It was supposed to change everything. I have not heard or read anything about this for quite some time. Anybody using it? Is it changing a world that I am not aware of? Or is this a Google Buzz moment for Facebook? <comment><AUTHOR> I just tried to send a message from Facebook to an actual email address that is hosted by Google. Guess what happened? The email from my Facebook account ended up in the spam folder in my gmail! :-) Now that's interesting on two accounts. First I didn't even know I could send an email from Facebook messages. Second, Google treated it as spam.

</comment><comment><USER2> Facebook Messages is texts, chat and email together in one simple conversation. A lot of people on Facebook are using it, with or without knowing.

<comment><AUTHOR> So what was that big announcement about? All of that existed when Facebook email was announced.

<comment><USER2> See <http://www.facebook.com/about/messages/> for information about how Facebook Messages helps you connect and share with the people in your life.

<comment><AUTHOR> I just sent an actual email to an email address from Facebook messages. GMail treated as spam, which is kind of funny. :-)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> Would anyone actually trust facebook enough to let them run your email? I wouldn't.

<comment><USER4> Why's that? I don't see them being any less trustworthy than say Yahoo, Google or Microsoft.

<comment><USER5> If you believe that past behavior predicts future behavior, they are manifestly worse than Google, and probably worse than Microsoft or Yahoo:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#Privacy_c...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#Privacy_concerns) (it's a long read)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Shenanigans.

<comment><AUTHOR> I am sorry, I did not understand your point.

<comment><USER6> Email is email.

Facebook email, at least how it was marketed (Gmail killer etc) is a joke. People expected a serious, streamlined service and they got girlie private messaging.

<comment><AUTHOR> Couldn't agree more.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Credit Bureaus Were the NSA of the 19th Century - <AUTHOR> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/04/mass-surveillance-was-invented-by-credit-bureaus/479226/?single_page=true <comment><USER2> Credit Bureaus don't need to collect that much information anymore. People bring it to them, because reporting an account to the credit bureau is how you make people pay their bills.

The guys who do the scary data harvesting these days are "data furnishers" like Lexis Nexis.

<comment><USER3> I dunno about Lexis Nexis. I've had occasion to use LN to look up information about some people, both Academic and full commercial versions, and while it was useful and worthwhile spending those hours digging through all its hits, I was not that impressed by what they had. Ultimately, usually I wound up with less new information than I had gotten from simply closely examining their social media activity and writings.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> The ability to verify trust and impose consequences on those who abuse it is imperative to society; Or, at the very least, societies where the repeated prisoner's dilemma has any bearing, which I'll argue ours is. The fact that we are willing to go to great lengths and invasions of privacy to do that is a tradeoff that we often make poorly, but is nonetheless a tradeoff we have to make for continued stability.

<comment><USER5> After living in both China and Canada for extended period of time, I've always wondered why China's society has such low trust compared to Canada's, and came up with a few possible contributing factors.

One of them, I believe, is the lack of history-tracking entities like credit bureaus, meaning that people who abuse trust are not remembered.

Lack of a proper justice system is another major contributor, meaning that people who abused trust can get away more easily.

Take a few concrete examples, when buying a used car in Canada, you can check vehicle history, which will bring up any major damages to the car (except in some exceptionally elaborate scandal cases); when renting to a tenant, you check his/her credit history; after a car accident, you only have to exchange insurance information; if you ate something bad in a restaurant or a food truck, you report it to the health services and they'll get inspected, potentially closing it down costing the owner dearly.

In China, those things are either non-existent or not very well run, making private commerce a risky venture, heck, even eating out is a risky adventure.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> What's to stop the NSA from becoming be the credit bureau of the 21st?

<comment><USER7> With FICO algorithms being secret, and parallel construction being a thing, who is to say they aren't already sharing info?

<comment><USER8> The inputs to FICO are far from secret; just the specifics of mapping them to scores are. If you've got bureau data on a wide population, it's trivial to nearly perfectly replicate them with standard machine learning models.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Wow "In 1854, a man sued Tappan's Mercantile Agency for libel after a credit report claimed that he had left his wife for a prostitute."

If Experian posted that shit, I'd be livid, having to file a correction to say "Mistress" "not prostitute"

</comment><comment><USER10> Love seeing a Scott Sandage reference -- his classes were probably the highlight of CMU Undergrad for me.</comment>


Video: 464XLAT live demo (making IPv4-only apps work over IPv6-only networks) - <AUTHOR> http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2013/04/video-464xlat-live-demo-at-world-ipv6-congress-in-paris/

<comment><AUTHOR> The cool part about this is that mobile network operators can potentially move their networks to IPv6-only and still support applications like Skype that are still IPv4-only. Yes, this was a demo of pre-production code, so it has to get out there into the actual devices. And the code was only for Android, so it needs to be for other devices, too.

So yes, this is not a solution that will happen _today_ , but is shows the path for how a solution can be found to let operators move their networks to IPv6 even if app vendors aren't ready/willing to make the move.</comment>


Spore Leaked And Being Broadcast Live (Web 2 + Gaming) - <AUTHOR> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spore-live

<comment><USER2> I just want to point out that this isn't Spore; it's only a _demo_ of the "Spore Creature Creator" which is scheduled to be released on June 17th, 2008. The purpose of this is that when Spore is actually released later in 2008, it will already be populated with user-created creatures.

</comment><comment><USER3> Creature creator only. Torrent of same available at usual places.

<comment><USER4> And if you pay money for software, it's out on Tuesday.</comment></comment>


Investigating skeuophonic concepts in websites - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/p/6afb3464c653

<comment><USER2> I think since the web is known for inventing new meanings for old items we are used to, we should accept the skeuophonic meanings to existing real world items, menus, breadcrumbs et al. and even try to invent new ones.

<comment><AUTHOR> If as humans we learn from existing concepts hence skeuomorphism - our new concepts would mostly be analogical to existing ones?

<comment><USER3> I don't see a problem with this, it's like storing new information by difference with old information. "This is a walkman, it is the same thing as a stereo, but it is small and portable and designed for a single user." If you know what a stereo is, you're 90% of the way towards understanding a walkman.</comment></comment></comment>


Jupyter Themes – Custom Jupyter Notebook Themes - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/dunovank/jupyter-themes <comment><AUTHOR> There's another jupyter themes posted in here: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10332018](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10332018)

but this one I posted is better alternative, as it have more theme options</comment>


Ask HN: Review our new feature - Most Popular iPhone Apps on Twitter - <AUTHOR> http://www.appstorehq.com/iphone-apps-twitter

<comment><USER2> Hmm, more like "iPhone apps with obnoxious auto-Twitter self-promotion features". ;-)

<comment><AUTHOR> Yeah, we're wrestling with the best way to handle this right now.

On one hand, retweeting and repeating tweets is a perfectly acceptable -- and standard -- way of "voting" via Twitter, and we want to respect and appreciate that.

On the other hand, apps that send out links to their app liberally should probably be punished.

There's obviously a balance to be found somewhere in the middle. Our model of weighting scores based on users and their friends/followers counts helps out somewhat -- most people who are 'popular' Twitter users are less likely to spam their followers.

A couple ideas we've had -- and we'd certainly love any feedback -- are:

1) Anytime we see multiple tweets following the same pattern, discount everyone but the first by some weight (say, 50%). This will keep them relevant, but dampen their impact.

2) Keep a list of API clients which are known to be in-app clients, such as MGTwitterEngine, and either discount their weight or remove them entirely.</comment></comment>


Death metal music inspires joy not violence - <AUTHOR> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47543875 <comment><USER2> Great to see research coming to a conclusion I think most metalheads intuitively know.

I love walls of sound, I love intensity that feels like it takes a surplus of cognitive bandwidth (ADHD) and gives it a little bit of resistance to tug against, almost like those various rubber stress toys. I think most metal fans hear lyrical gruesomeness as something between fantasy and a cause for more empathy than anything else. And let's be real, a lot of it is flat out unintelligible. It's an aesthetic.

Most of the metalheads I know are absolute teddybears. I listen to some pretty heavy stuff (see links), but the other day I cried at a dog video, and recently had to turn off the police scanner at the mention of a particularly sad crime. Mosh pits look scary but there's a shared ethical framework. Injuries happen, but they're almost never due to malice. Somebody falls down, you pick em up. Bigger people stomp around keeping the peace and returning lost shoes, aha. It's bounded, consensual violence – just like a martial art.

Exceptions exist – there are church burners and skinheads, but they tend to cluster in their own sects and you don't get mixed up with them accidentally.

[https://youtu.be/E9z-Tipz5JQ?t=40](https://youtu.be/E9z-Tipz5JQ?t=40)

[https://youtu.be/Y037ZIKckIY](https://youtu.be/Y037ZIKckIY)

[https://youtu.be/9YkSki1qbLA](https://youtu.be/9YkSki1qbLA)

<comment><USER3> codeine king is very much not rooted in any metal, as a band from the sludgewave era of metalcore/hardcore its a sound rooted in hardcore, codeine king is not metal

vctms is a metalcore band

jfac is a deathcore band, esp during the doom ep era

deathcore being a combination of death metal and metalcore

actually, none of the bands you linked are metal

<comment><USER4> No one has cared about that TRVE nonsense in almost two decades, gatekeeping genres is trite.

<comment><USER3> ight bet

that doesnt invalidate the fact that metalcore isn't metal, since it's rooted in punk hence, metal _core_

<comment><USER5> metal isn't metal, since it's rooted in punk. FACT

Extreme metal rooted from Discharge. Sounds close enough anyway. Crossover thrash isn't metal because it has punk on it, too?

Regardless, this is just pedantry.

<comment><USER4> Funny enough you mention Discharge... most contemporary DM bands dress (and have a few songs) that sounds like crust bands ~1982

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> That's _death_ metal though. Other forms of extreme metal can have lyrics that, far from toying with splatter-gore themes for the shock value, express terminally anti-social politics.

I'm thinking of black. Sometimes I'm just happy that a few of the bands I listen to sing in Swedish or Norwegian etc that I don't understand, so that I can't tell what they're singing about. Although the imagery can often give a bit of a hint, rather.

To make it absolutely clear in case people don't know what I'm talking about: there is a clear trend of black bands that are downright neonazis. By no means all, or even I think a majority, but they are right there.

<comment><USER7> I'd just like to point out that, as someone who mainly listens to black metal, I do not share these opinions.

Concerning the lyrics, I generally categorize them into two groups (with non- empty cut set):

* Intellectual lyrics, which criticize some part of society or human behaviour, or they deal with personal issues (e.g. [http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/todtgelichter/angst.html#1](http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/todtgelichter/angst.html#1))

* Theme lyrics, which try to fit a core concept of the bands music, like satanism or some war/Third Reich theme (e.g. _Graphic_ [http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/behemoth/thesatanist.html#1](http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/behemoth/thesatanist.html#1) _Graphic_ ). Also, note that a having a certain theme does not automatically imply endorsing it.

Usually, the music as well as the lyrics are cold and cynical, which can make their actual meaning hard to place or even ambivalent at times.

Concerning the neonazis: Personally, I do not see a trend towards the worse, but there _are_ a few sketchy bands out there (the ones I know of are usually older, from the 90s or so).

Oh, P.S.: while the black metal fans may be not as teddybear-y as death metal fans, we are usually quite a nice bunch :)

<comment><USER8> Endorsing Satanism isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you read _The Satanic Bible_ by Anton LaVey it can represent a logical construct that rejects blind theology.

<comment><USER9> That came up during episode 666 of the NPR This American Life podcast, "The Theme That Shall Not Be Named":

[https://www.thisamericanlife.org/666/the-theme-that-shall- no...](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/666/the-theme-that-shall-not-be-named)

The first segment about the Satanic Prayer Hotline is really amusing. Act One is about a talk back radio preacher who went on tour with Slayer & wrote about it for Spin Magazine, and that's also worth a listen.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Makes sense. The people at every death metal show I've been are always pretty happy and friendly. Even in most mosh pits people look out for eachother and will help somebody up who falls or help someone who gets hurt out of the mass of people. It's always been positivr, even the show I split my head open on someone else's head(accidently) we both just laughed about it, then after someone told me my face was covered in blood me and my buddy went to go get me some stitches. Good times.

</comment><comment><USER11> The timing of this article feels like it was written in response to Singapore banning a Swedish black metal band from performing at the very last minute.

[https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/watain- black-...](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/watain-black-metal- concert-cancelled-singapore-11320738)

[https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/watain- concer...](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/watain-concert-mha- consulted-before-classification-imda-11334674)

<comment><USER12> I fly halfway across Japan about every two years for metal concerts in Osaka. Big-name extreme metal acts usually only visit Tokyo & Osaka. About 3-4 years ago Watain was headlining a show. I would have been PISSED, having bought a plane ticket and a hotel, only to find the headline act was cancelled due to some nonsense. \m/>_<\m/

<comment><USER13> Fellow metalhead in Tokyo. Know of any good shows/lists of shows?

<comment><USER12> Usually I just wait for something to pop up on my feed on Facebook, probably based on some of the bands I follow. Here's Osaka's most common metal venue:

[https://www.songkick.com/venues/269466-namba- rockets](https://www.songkick.com/venues/269466-namba-rockets)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> Some recent favs:

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5eQuhBfDE0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5eQuhBfDE0)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHlZA5OYj2I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHlZA5OYj2I)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeeMHq3I3Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeeMHq3I3Y)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFM7kj0RII](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFM7kj0RII)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ekRLVXIIpw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ekRLVXIIpw)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlFeOy-I2MY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlFeOy-I2MY)

\- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Qqk_wNFOk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Qqk_wNFOk)

<comment><USER15> Spectral Voice is really something else, take a listen to Blood Incantation.

<comment><USER14> Thanks, digging them already.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> So here's a thought that just occurred to me.

For context, I've never understood death metal or anything in that realm. The screaming in particular... but I realize that's just my personal preference. No judgment intended. Just opinion, not objective fact.

So only recently I discovered the ASMR phenomenon. And it seems like ~10% of the population (estimated) get a particular response to those sounds.

Other commenters here talk about a "wall of intensity" and things in that realm. What if metal appreciation is the same way as ASMR? By this I mean, what if you just have a predisposition to the sound intensity?

Just a question. I have no answers. This might be ridiculous. I have no idea.

<comment><USER17> I'd be surprised if it's that simple. If you'd not raised the point, I think I'd have guessed most had to grow on you with exposure like appreciating spirits or strong foods. Hang around with bikers or metal heads and you'll learn to love it whether you intend to or not... Or find something else to do fast. :)

After growing up with Sabbath, Lemmy, Maiden, ACDC, UFO etc, when I first heard death metal and growl vocals I just thought it sounded a bit naff. Yet somewhere along the way to middle age I grew to love them and also stopped noticing genres. There's now plenty of Ensiferum, Arch Enemy and so on in among bands of all kinds, classical and jazz I listen to these days.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYVcz7h3o0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYVcz7h3o0)

<comment><USER18> For me it was absolutely an exposure thing. I spent years listening to metal with clean vocals but hating harsh vocals. Then I listened to one of Equilibrium's instrumental songs ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiJw9wIibw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiJw9wIibw)) and fell in love. I was disappointed to discover that most of their songs were "ruined" by the growled vocals, but managed to enjoy them in spite of that. Over a bunch of listens I learned to how to appreciate what Equilibrium did with growls, and once I "got" that I started enjoying a lot of other bands that I previously disliked.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> No kidding. Since everyone is posting their favorites it seems, here's one of mine: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMRKBz89uRQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMRKBz89uRQ)

<comment><USER19> And another: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuVdsx7qJY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuVdsx7qJY)

</comment></comment><comment><USER20> Just to note: Some death-metal bands have positive lyrics[0,1]... (Though, whether they can _really_ be called a death metal band is possibly a point of contention.)

[0] - [https://youtu.be/lk2-bgwA0Ro](https://youtu.be/lk2-bgwA0Ro)

[1] - [https://youtu.be/Nh10gL_GP_w](https://youtu.be/Nh10gL_GP_w)

<comment><USER21> Not only do they have positive lyrics, some even have comforting recipes[2]

[https://youtu.be/xwksxDHNoAE](https://youtu.be/xwksxDHNoAE)

<comment><USER20> I don't know why but I half-expect that to be a ROSMT[0] link.

[0] - [https://youtu.be/OvW2xeSn4As](https://youtu.be/OvW2xeSn4As)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER22> > We used 'Happy' by Pharrell Williams as a [comparison]

> I didn't personally write them, but I would be frankly astounded if anyone > listened to that song and then felt a desire to be eaten by a cannibal

If anything, "Happy" by Pharrell Williams is more likely to make me want to be eaten by a cannibal.

</comment><comment><USER23> > "We used 'Happy' by Pharrell Williams as a [comparison]," said Dr Sun.

Could it be that the listeners were simply tired of hearing an overplayed song (Happy) to the point that even death metal was refreshing?

An obscure song should be compared to another obscure song.

</comment><comment><USER24> Key takeaway: music is not about what it looks like on the cover. It can also be a way to shield yourself from the people you're trying to get away from, and a way to differentiate yourself. Almost every one of the ultra-kind but non-mainstream people I know who are into outwardly weird or off-putting (anti-mainstream) stuff are into the culture community for the boundaries they provide. Juggalos are about the community, metalheads are about the community, otakus are about the community, furries are about the community.

</comment><comment><USER25> Metal music is cathartic the same way a movie, a videogame, a book or a theater performance are.

You experience intensity, highs and lows, tension and release. You expose yourself to a harsh emotional rollercoaster, to digging deep into one's psyche, and come out on the other end hopefully invigorated and refreshed.

If metal music inspires violence, so do the Odyssey, Star Wars, Othello and many many others.

</comment><comment><USER26> How does that square with [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/04/04/young- heavy-m...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/04/04/young-heavy-metal- fans-five-times-likely-self-harm-attempt-suicide/)

<comment><USER27> Extreme non-mainstream interests tend to attract people who feel alienated by society, which often includes people with undiagnosed issues.

</comment></comment><comment><USER28> They (We) are pretty nice people. We're rational, scientifically inclined, reasonable, and empathetic. We're responsible for our actions, since we don't have any mystical ideology or supernatural deities to fall back on.

A vast majority of the music we listen mocks stereotypes, oppression, points out to hypocrisy, the real violence and aggression shown by the 'normal' masses.

We have cleaner track records. Some of us will dress up to appear aggressive and immoral, but we know you have pitchforks and judgments that you're waiting to hurl at us.

</comment><comment><USER29> A notable case of people being profiled as violent due to their taste in metal music is the Robin Hood Hills murders [1].

1: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost:_The_Child_Murde...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost:_The_Child_Murders_at_Robin_Hood_Hills)

EDIT:

The children that were prosecuted also raised eyebrows because of their philosophical interests in LaVeyan Satanism (which is absolutely not what most people would probably assume it to be)

</comment><comment><USER30> I'd like to see a study like this done on members of the Norwegian black metal scene from the early 90s. Because I still can't figure out what the burnings and stuff were about (aside from paganism, I guess), and "TROO" metalheads sound pretty crazy even compared to all the other 'alternative' culture aficionados.

But generally, of course, this experiment seems like just one bit of a proper comprehensive study.

<comment><USER31> Burnings where the extreme outliers, maybe like there where some killings in the American hip-hop scene at the same time. Remember that the (black) metal scene in Norway was so large that in the late '90s a black metal band had a song in the national top 20 list for weeks (Satyricon, fuel for hatred). What a handful of persons taking it to the extreme, did do not define the scene

Edit: Don't underestimate the calming effect from death/black metal when writing code

<comment><USER30> > _calming effect from death /black metal when writing code_

For a looong time, I've been looking for techno or breakbeat with proper metal, i.e. more than some vague guitar buzz. No luck.

Filmmaker's 'Crepuscular' might be the closest thing yet: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XvB64VU3yw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XvB64VU3yw)

For some reason, a steady rhythm vastly outperforms anything else as a soundtrack for coding.

<comment><USER32> You'd love Karma to Burn then, example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGD45SK08o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGD45SK08o)

<comment><USER30> It's alright, but it's a standard stoner rock arrangement, so not sure how it fits in the context of my comment.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER33> Literally any Cannibal Corpse song would have been better for this study than literally any Bloodbath song.

<comment><USER34> I dunno man, Bloodbath has some bangers. Huge fan of the tunes with Akerfeldt on vocals.

</comment></comment><comment><USER35> Not metalcore but the punk/hardcore album Joy as an Act of Resistance by Idles embodies this.

</comment><comment><USER36> Now I'd definetely love this kind of study for Hip-Hop. I feel like the results (about decoupling between lyrics' violence and listeners/bands' feelings) would be utterly different.

</comment><comment><USER37> \m/

</comment><comment><USER38> When I'm in a particularly bad mood, I'm always calmed down by hardcore punk, thrash, and metal. I've always assumed it was an audible form of letting off steam.

</comment><comment><USER3> party death metal is very joyous

Party Cannon Bong Hit Hospitalisation - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eki2SNegxIE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eki2SNegxIE)

KILLITOROUS // IT'S NOT STANLEY, IT'S STAN LEE - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YflBqKgLyks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YflBqKgLyks)

technical party dm

</comment><comment><USER34> This brings me great joy:

[https://youtu.be/T6mUmTDJAME](https://youtu.be/T6mUmTDJAME)

</comment><comment><USER39> And in tomorrow's news: videogames are fun...

</comment><comment><USER40> everyone knows metalheads are lovely people

</comment><comment><USER41> Next clickbait title : "BDSM inspires joy not violence". Then replace BDSM with RPG, FPS ...</comment>


What Can We Learn from an Incorrect TDD Diagram? - <AUTHOR> https://qualitycoding.org/incorrect-tdd-diagram/ <comment><USER2> That's not the only thing incorrect. After refactoring should be "Execute all test cases", as the refactoring may have introduced a bug. Sometimes, especially with "replace algorithm", the refactoring may even require new test cases.

I'll add another reason for why a new test may fail - you might not understand the system well enough.

For example, suppose you come from C to Python. You have some code which computes modulo on integers, so you use x%y. Later on you realize that you also need modulo on floats, which in C means using fmod(3).

You write the test with a float, expecting it to fail, only to find out that it passes, because you didn't know that Python supports modulo a float.

For one that affected me recently, I wanted to write a test that my output code would give an error if one of the fields was blank. I wrote a test for it, and the test passed. I had forgotten that the input system was defined to fill in a default value if nothing was specified, so there was no way to pass an empty value to the output.</comment>


Google blocks abortion ads in Australia - <AUTHOR> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/australian-abortion-clinic-ads-gone-from-google/11250158 <comment><USER2> And unblocked after the bug was fixed according to [0]. Weird/bad source/Fake news for one of the sites since OP's article came 7 hours after [0]. Cannot trust anything these days.

[0]: [http://www.adnews.com.au/news/google-corrects-error- blocking...](http://www.adnews.com.au/news/google-corrects-error-blocking- abortion-ads)

<comment><USER3> Its the ABC, its basically our government funded socialist station. Their journalistic integrity is zero, and its often where the journalists who can't get jobs anywhere else end up. Sort of a catching tray for the unemployable.

<comment><USER4> Why would the current right-wing Australian government fund a socialist station?

<comment><USER5> > _Why would the current right-wing Australian government fund a socialist > station?_

I think that's a matter of historical tradition. They have attempted, (and have in the past reduced funding).</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Our take on 37Signals Draft product page [Taskforce] - <AUTHOR> http://taskforceapp.com/pages/draft

<comment><USER2> I don't think this works nearly as well as the 37s version for a couple of reasons. The biggest one is that Taskforce isn't as inherently visual as Draft is, so you're going to have to work harder to make it visually interesting. There are a bunch of others, though: the Draft page shows Draft in context: pictured on an iPad rendering. That helps to explain what it is. The Draft images are scaled down and at a more normal aspect ratio. Yours are full size and cut off at an awkward aspect ratio to save space. They look really really wide. The Draft page includes a line at the top that says what it is and where to get it in two lines. You don't have either of those.

I think the idea has promise (and I _really_ like the Draft page), but there are things that need to be changed for this to work. Add a tagline at the top that says what Taskforce is, what platforms it runs on, and where to get it. People should know there's a beta _before_ they get all the way down the page. Scale the screenshots down, and move them to a more normal 16:10 or 4:3 aspect ratio. Also consider focusing in for some of the screenshots rather than putting the whole thing there: the 'drag and drop to share' screenshot, for example, doesn't focus nearly enough on the dragging and dropping and that gets lost. 37s had an easy time in this respect because their app is very very simple visually, and is a fundamentally visual application. You're going to have to do a bit more work to make your screenshots as interesting. Make sure you have an obvious link back to your site. The 'Taskforce' header at the top isn't very obviously clickable. (And there should be a link back from the bottom of the page, too.)

Also, personalize it a bit. There are two lines that really make the Draft page work, in my opinion:

        "See, there it is in Campfire. That took 3 seconds."

        "We use it every day. We hope you will too."

The Taskforce page is a lot more formal and a lot more boring. And that makes it a lot less memorable in comparison.

<comment><USER3> Away with the "personalized" filler lines. I don't think people were ever affected by those.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> To the folks asking if it's a Mac app or a web app, it looks like the answer is "both." From the controls, it looks like it's built on top of Cappuccino from 280North, and being deployed on the Mac using Cappuccino's Native Host feature ([http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2010/05/13/nativehost-run- your...](http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2010/05/13/nativehost-run-your- cappuccino-applications-on-the-desktop/)).

<comment><AUTHOR> You're right, the answer is both, but we're not using Cappuccino.

We're using Cappuccino's theme Aristo, which I ported to CSS3: <http://github.com/maccman/aristo>

For the desktop implementation, we're using Bowline - a framework I developed for producing cross platform desktop apps in Ruby/HTML. <http://bowlineapp.com>

<comment><USER4> Thanks for the correction. Bowline looks super cool. I'm going to have to spend some time digging into it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> 37Signals are trend setters when it comes to UI design. Pretty much every iteration of their Design/UI is followed by many web-apps. Remember the very first version of Ta-da list home page, then the old Basecamp homepage, and now the new Basecamp homepage. Also the layout of all their web apps is followed by many SaaS apps now. Now this - simple landing page, will be followed by many people now. It's good stuff!

</comment><comment><USER6> I did not get it - is this a desktop or webapp?

</comment><comment><USER7> 37signals provides an explanation at the top of the page and a call to action (link to the app store) at the top and bottom of the page. You should consider doing the same with your signup form. This pattern is also noted on Google's results pages where they have a search box at the top and bottom.

</comment><comment><USER8> Though it may not have been as clear as intended, I "get it". And it's pretty cool—I've signed up for the beta.

Cultured Code (Things) has a competitor… good work!

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> The idea is that by the time you scroll to the bottom of the page, you should have a pretty clear idea about the product and how it's useful to you.

<comment><USER9> Is it a mac application? Or cross platform? Web? Mobile?

Email replies? Email replies to what?

How does it integrate with Gmail?

It's probably better to present this as a story.

<comment><AUTHOR> I guess it's not as explanatory as I intended.

It's three things: * A cross platform desktop app * Gmail plugin * iPhone app

If you create a task for someone not using the system, it'll send them an email instead. Any replies to that email will get turned into comments in Taskforce.

I think you're right about representing it as a story, perhaps a life cycle of a particular task.

<comment><USER10> In that case it looks very very cool and I signed up for the beta. Great work.

But when I first read through I too was confused about the comparison to 37signals and their new draft app.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> One reason the 37s page works _really_ well is that it is bold, stark and clear. For example; they have a white background - which really emphasises the black images & text.

</comment><comment><USER12> Looks like an awesome app. When are you shipping the beta?

<comment><USER13> Thank you! You should see something in the next few months.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> Isn't draft a bare-bones sketching/wireframing tool? This seems to be a task manager.

<comment><USER15> that's what's got me confused...</comment></comment>


Ask YC: How to incorporate? - <AUTHOR>

Can anyone here point me to a guide of step-by-step instructions for incorporating one's company as a Delaware Class C (to be parallel with YC) -- how to file 83b, etc.?? I'm a bit overwhelmed with all this and want some guideposts. Thanks. <comment><USER2> Nolo Press (<http://www.nolo.com/>) has some books/kits that walk you through the process. If you not inclined to do it yourself you can always pay someone, such as The Company Corporation (<http://www.incorporate.com/>) or INCNOW (<http://www.incnow.com>) to do it for you, most of them offer registered agent service in the state -- though it's probably cheaper just to rent a box at a UPS Store (or similar, a P.O. box is not acceptable).

Some states make it really easy to incorporate, you can check out Delaware's Division of Corporations (<http://corp.delaware.gov/>) to see if you can file online. I see they list the steps necessary right on their website: <http://corp.delaware.gov/howtoform.shtml>

Good luck!

</comment><comment><USER3> I used these guys <http://www.amerilawyer.com/> and it was cheap and easy. If you can get someone to do all the research, paperwork, and filing for you, and even receive your mail until you've gotten a mailing address for $120, I don't see why you would want to try to figure it out yourself.</comment>


Oh, you're with them? (2016) - <AUTHOR> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20161011-00/?p=94486? <comment><USER2> I don't think this kind of thing is isolated to the tech industry. Edith Cooper at Goldman Sachs shared this recently:

"I am a black woman, a mother, a wife and a professional. I am the daughter of a dentist and a sister to four siblings. I'm a runner, a golfer and a knitter. I graduated from an Ivy League school and earned an MBA. I've spent the past 30 years working on Wall Street, half of those as a partner at Goldman Sachs.

I am frequently asked "what country are you from" (I grew up in Brooklyn). I've been questioned about whether I really went to Harvard (I did) or how I got in (I applied). I've been asked to serve the coffee at a client meeting (despite being there to "run" the meeting) and have been mistaken as the coat check receptionist at my son's school event. And, on the flip side, it's also been suggested to me that I'm not "black black"because of the success I have had, or even where I live ... People frequently assumed I was the most junior person in the room, when in fact, I was the most senior. I constantly needed to share my credentials when nobody else had to share theirs ..." [1]

[1] [http://www.businessinsider.com/edith-cooper-goldman-sachs- on...](http://www.businessinsider.com/edith-cooper-goldman-sachs-on-talking- about-race-at-work-2016-9)

</comment><comment><USER3> This incident looks horrible, and it's sad how terrifically disrespectful the administrative assistant was towards the department head.

Events like this often serve (understandably) as explanations for why the tech industry's gender ratio is so heavily skewed. The data, while empirical, seems to be there as well:

>Kieran Snyder interviewed over 700 women who left the tech industry. Almost all of them said that they enjoyed the work itself. It was the work environment that drove them out. And six out of seven have no plans to return.

There's one thing I am genuinely confused by though. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why a woman might want to leave an industry after being treated this way. However, _why is it_ that the tech industry _specifically_ has not evolved like other high paying, high knowledge, and high value fields (principally: medicine and law)?

Medicine and law were both fields traditionally dominated by old white men, that's a simple fact. Another fact is that gender discrimination, harassment, and all of the issues attributed to the tech industry today were also rampant in medicine and law while the gender ratio was so skewed. Yet for some reason, these fields were able to move towards parity, and the gender issues they experience now are a shadow of what they were previously. By gender, roughly equal numbers of women enter medicine as men, for example [0]. If I were to walk into the office of a doctor or lawyer today, I honestly would not be surprised to see a man or woman of any race/background.

What is it about technology, or the tech industry, that is not like medicine or law? While incidents of harassment and discrimination are terrible and deserve the strongest condemnation, I don't think they are the answer for our gender ratio problem. Why is it that while women outnumber men (a lead which grows every year) in graduation rates from colleges, the ratio of CS students in those same colleges is extraordinarily skewed towards men?

[0] [http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/medical-school- graduate...](http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/medical-school-graduates-by- gender/?dataView=1&currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D)

<comment><USER4> I am guilty of nudging a woman towards the exit of CS.

In college one of my classmates was not understanding the material, and I asked her if she thought she really wanted to do CS...

The thing is, a bunch of other guys were also not understanding the material, and I didn't say anything to them.

I still think about it from time to time, and wherever you are, I'm sorry M. I don't think I can fix that, but I can speak up now.

<comment><USER5> Objectively, if it's true that women need to perform much better than men to get promoted, then being a woman who struggles with the material in a male dominated field would suck, and maybe you did her a favor.

I think the cycle can be broken if current practitioners can find young women who are willing to work extra hard (harder than their male peers) and give those women as much tutoring as they can handle (I certainly can't study for a full day, and I guess this plan requires studying overtime) so they can ace tests/projects, advance in the industry, change norms and people's expectations from women and make it easier for the next generation of women. There will be accusations of favoritism but as long as it's clear that they succeed because they worked hard and did the work themselves and not because they were helped, the accusations shouldn't get anywhere. Basically, I'm against favoring women over more qualified (or even as-qualified) men, but helping women become the most qualified candidate is definitely fair game.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I think about this a lot.

I'm hiring heavily atm, and one obvious thing I look at is what degree the person has. I've noticed that I've started to go "oh, they did that course. We had person Y from that course and they were bad".

It's such a subconscious thing on such a non-obvious attribution that it made me even more aware of how people make racist assumptions because they group on the color characteristic and project from sparse examples.

I don't know what the solution is, but it would be a good thing if someone could come up with a solution.

<comment><USER7> I believe there's nothing wrong with coming up with biases based on evaluating a person's technical abilities for a job role. (Isn't that the whole point?) You know the part where the requirements mention a skill set you should possess. If a person with a particular skill set/course wasn't able to perform as expected, then maybe that is not what you want.

However, IMHO, it becomes discriminatory when you base all of your arguments off of one data point. A class can be made up of a lot of different type of people with differing views on how to solve problems etc. When I start to drift away in such situations, I tend to look for more data points. A deeper analysis into what culmination of factors might have caused this, can really solve this. Or so I believe.

And to be fair, you did hire the other person with the same course. So, maybe it is a fit. Just that the other person may have lacked other abilities/skill set to perform the job properly.

</comment></comment><comment> charles-salvia If you trained a neural network to recognize "high powered tech executives", it will likely start picking up on features associated with 30 to 40 year old (mostly white) males wearing sweaters or "business casual" attire. It probably would report a low value if you showed it a minority female. (Google "tech executive" on Google images to test this out.)

Human beings are really advanced neural networks, trained on years of sensory data, along with lots of bias factors. This is why things like sexism and racism are often self-perpetuating. People aren't used to commonly seeing a female, minority woman in a high position, so they don't expect it, and therefore that expectation becomes part of their bias in the future.

There are only two solutions:

(1) Do things to create more minority female tech executives, so we all expect it.

(2) Do things to make people better at hiding their biases.

Obviously, we need to do both if this situation is ever going to change.

<comment><USER8> I think treating (1) by lowering requirements is bad because now people will stereotype that that person got there on ez mode.

(2) is bad because people will inevitably make accidental genuine mistakes and it perpetuates the whole hostile PC culture where people are afraid of talking about anything and everything. If there is no social punishment then enforcing is impossible.

I think the solution is in changing culture. I.E.: make it like China or former USSR. People got jobs in in-demand fields, not in what they were interested in.

Most qualified people rose to the top primarily based on aptitude alone. That way there would be no need for thought police.

<comment> aaron-lebo _I think the solution is in changing culture. I.E.: make it like China or former USSR. People got jobs in in-demand fields, not in what they were interested in._

That sounds like a totalitarian state that nobody wants to live in. That _might_ get rid of the thought police but you then you have job police, yeah?

<comment><USER8> The whole point is changing it in such a way that everyone "wants" to do these in-demand jobs. Chinese students aren't unhappy with their job choices.

Edit:

I think the easiest way is to simply not force people to self-answer an abstract question of "What are you interested in?" First of all, it's almost impossible to answer it correctly because there is no way you can sample all possible career paths. Secondly, if they don't ask themselves this question, they'll find interesting things in the general job area they're given.

<comment> aaron-lebo We could similarly restrict all food production to rice and people would get used to it and even enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it is a solution towards a more diverse diet.

You are fundamentally talking about increasing diversity in one area by reducing choice in another. Isn't that antithetical?

edit: your edit makes more sense :)

<comment><USER8> Thanks!

Regarding food vs jobs, I think it's not a very good analogy because

a) almost every job has a lot to it that could be interesting for anyone

We are not limiting all jobs to "Wordpress site template maintainer for small e-commerce sites" or "MySQL DB engineer specializing in scaling and indexing databases with mostly JSON-based tables". If you are a front-end web dev, you could choose to end up specializing in front-end driven analytics or SVG drawing or something higher-level like d3 plotting or anything in HTML5 games or photoshop-to-code conversion or migrate to photoshop-based design etc etc

B) The goal is not to maximize diversity of food or diversity of jobs. I am not implying avoiding increasing specialization.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Sorry, but why are we immediately assuming this wasn't an accident/unintentional? Did I miss the part where the admin assistant took off their KKK costume and stick-on Adolf Hitler moustache before shaking everyone's hand?

Have we really reached the point as a society where we immediately assume every social faux-pas has some sort of vague racist/sexist motive?

I'd be totally on board if this was something that genuinely damaged or demeaned this woman, but it clearly isn't - someone didn't shake her hand, apologised, then presumably shook her hand. If that's going to cause her to fall to pieces and give up on life as the author and most people commenting here would have us believe, then this blog post isn't really going to help her much.</comment>


Resources for the Node.js Dev - <AUTHOR> http://java.dzone.com/articles/40-resources-nodejs-developer

<comment><USER2> This post is too biased on OpenShift. OpenShift support for NodeJS is not the 2,3,4 things you anyone should look at.

I hope this should help some one to get started on Node quickly - <https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Resources>

And try to stay in control with NodeJS mailing list :)

<comment><USER3> I would like to mention NodeCloud as well, a Node.js resources directory ordering sites by their Alexa rank : <http://www.nodecloud.org>

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> As someone just getting into Node.js development, I had been looking into a good (free, for now) PaaS for a hobby project. I had settled on Heroku, and I like it so far for its simplicity. However, reading this was the first time I had considered OpenShift for Node.js. Can anyone comment on the merits of OpenShift vs. Heroku? I've found surprisingly little information comparing the two while searching around.

From what I was seeing, OpenShift looked like it may offer more capacity with its free plan, but I may be missing something here...

<comment><USER5> Have a look into NodeJitsu <http://nodejitsu.com/>

They recently opened up their services to the public and still have a free tier.

<comment><USER6> Not sure if that is a factor, but being in the UK I got way too many 404s in the free tier. In comparison (the same app), Heroku or OpenShift work like a charm.

<comment><USER5> Thanks for the info (I'm in the UK as well).

Our current approach is to create our own machines with dedicated & VMs we rent cheap and setup ourselves. Always interested in recipes to do that.

Nevertheless we are currently evaluating managed solutions like joyent, nodejitsu or Redhat's Openshift to take away the extra workload in managing the iron.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Sounds like I still don't want to use node, no one has decided on what resources to use.

<comment><USER8> If that is your criteria for using a tool, you're never going to move into anything new. For web development many are happy with Express. Sure they tend to use Mongo or some no-sql type storage, but that is due to novelty and the fact that the individuals writing the async drivers are into that right now. MySQL has support and it's increasing.

Node's an interesting idea and should be given some room to grow. When done correctly it seems to scale well, especially on one box.

To go back to the topic, look at Java. There are so many tools out there to do the same thing in the MVC space. Would you say that you won't use Java because people can figure out which tools to use? To me the benefit of Node and Java is that you are not tied to a particular engineering group's view of the world. You can plug in what you want. You can experiment and learn yourself. A monolithic stack might be good from the it just work's perspective (though I've never seen that to be true and I've programmed in C#), but it does tie you to a release schedule of the vendor.</comment></comment>


Usage of Flash on websites fell to 20%, down from 25.3% one year ago. - <AUTHOR> http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cp-flash/all/all

<comment><USER2> No longer use it in Firefox. One less security hole to worry about.

Google singlehandedly solved this for me with youtube by encoding about 80% of the videos in WebM - you just add "ipad" to your useragent for youtube.com using <http://neko.tsugumi.org/UAControl.html>

Sadly cannot play any vimeo in firefox without flash though :-(

Windows XP users will not be able to use the firefox fallback solution for MP4 either (Windows Media Foundation).

<comment><USER3> Both YouTube and Vimeo (and I'm sure others) have an "HTML5" opt-in thing that you can set.

Vimeo is more problematic, true. And not all videos have been re-encoded yet but it is getting there.

<comment><USER4> Only if you have an google account. With the user agent, you can now get this feature without one.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I wonder if there is a "tipping point" at which so few sites have flash, that popular browsers will no longer feel the need to support it, resulting in an ecosystem where web sites that want to present themselves to a broad audience have to use some other delivery mechanism - resulting in a rapid drop to 0%.

I'm wondering if the iPad marketshare (in a few years) would be sufficient enough to push the market over the edge.

<comment><USER6> There's still a lot of Flash that is used to compensate for things that are not doable without it. For example, Github has Flash; try right clicking on the "Copy this repository's URL to the clipboard" button on any git repo.

That, unfortunately, won't go away soon.

<comment><USER7> That can totally go away. What about plain text which you just select and copy?

If copying text is hard, I think actually cloning the repository after you've copied it's URL is an insurmountable challenge.

<comment><USER8> Yes, that would be an alternate workaround for a missing feature in HTML, although not quite as good.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Putting aside the technical issues, this is an awesome development, if you're blind or require a screen reader or other alternate input/consumption device to use the Web. Flash sites nearly always had extremely horrible usability for that part of the population.

</comment><comment><USER10> I would be curious to know how much of this 20% is for actual content vs. usage for web sockets, copy-to-clipboard, etc.</comment>


Tour Bois-le-Prêtre: transformation of a housing block (2012) - design-of-homes http://designofhomes.co.uk/042-tour-bois-le-pretre.html

<comment><AUTHOR> Note this is in a fancy neighborhood. I wish all 60/70s projects to be redesigned like this. So far some very large towers have been wiped to build more human blocks. I didn't know it was an option to 'refactor' such a big thing but the result is pretty convincing, both in terms of living conditions and cost. Kudos.

<comment><USER2> Swapping the boring facade for nice glass seems easy compared to updating the interiors to reasonable standard (for example proper kitchen fans need ventilation ducts, which are often missing in old towers like this). I think for a lot of these buildings the economics of refactoring is worse than for rebuilding. When you make large enough changes to existing buildings I suppose you also risk having to bring it up to (current) building code in terms of ventilation, heating, fire safety, ...

<comment><USER3> I believe the architectural profession suffers similar issues of that in the computer world - namely, newcomers to a project don't really ever want to put in the effort to refactor and more often than not would rather tear everything down and rebuild anew than try to understand the original intention of the architecture, and then fulfill those intentions.

So its sort of refreshing to see this very human instinct being reflected in other fields/professions. Next time I'm confronted with the idea of completely rebuilding some system architecture from scratch, I'll try to keep in mind the sanctity of my position in relation to those of other architects - it may indeed be better to re-facade the system and keep all the original plumbing and services in place, than to tear it down and re-write from scratch. I'm glad we're not the only ones who go through this - and I'm certainly happy to see a positive example of fixing the really important issues in the real world.</comment></comment></comment>


Tumbling of interstellar 'comet' suggests alien probe with BROKEN engines - <AUTHOR> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5175235/Oumuamua-alien-probe-BROKEN-engines.html <comment><USER2> what if this is merely space junk, not necessarily a probe? It could be VERY, very old.

Perhaps it's the dawn of a new era where environmentalists will fight for maintaining the cleanliness of outer space?

<comment><AUTHOR> Space junk would be very cool.</comment></comment>