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Should we let homeopathy be?
The biggest dilemma for me is that placebo is proven to work better if the physician also believes he's giving real medecine. In this view, homeopathy is the perfect placebo. Even the people making it, through laborious dilutions, have GOT to believe in it, or their high school knowledge about chemistry would make it tempting to skip the whole process and make more profit selling sugar.
It's even got quantum mechanics watching its back, losing the more curious ones in complexe explanations about just how complexe liquid water is.
And of course, the idea is fun. Like cures like. 1/1000000th of a molecule of ethanol to cure a hangover.
Sure it's tempting to ridicule the whole industry for the billion dollar quackery it is. But one might actually find that it's saving a lot of healthcare money, and that it WORKS! And it works because we let it, because we don't ask for double-blind tests...
So what's your view on this? Is homeopathy a cheap way to heall the credulous? Or has it gone too far and is part of what makes the transition to the age of reason so darn slow?
Oct 23 2013: Homeopathy is placebo? Really? If that's true you would expect that illnesses could be ameliorated or cured with any one of the 3,000 remedies in common use. Simply take one -- any one -- and watch your illnesses fade away. But it doesn't work that way. The only homeopathic remedy which can ameliorate or cure is the one remedy that is most similar to the totality of the patient's symptoms and works well for his constitutional type. No other remedy will have an effect on the condition being treated.
I've used homeopathy for many, many years with great success in acute conditions, chronic conditions and injuries. Sometimes the first remedy chosen gets the job done, but there are also times when I've been prescribed two or three remedies before my homeoopath finds the one that cures. My success with homeopathy over many years gives me a certain level of trust ("skeptics" would call it a "belief") and yet if the similimum isn't prescribed, I don't get better.
There's another question we could ask, too: Why doesn't con med have the wonderful "placebos" homeopathy has?
Oct 23 2013: I have to agree with Christine, homeopathy is no placebo. As a patient and student of homeopathy for the past 20+ years, I have benefited immeasurably from homeopathy. The homeopathic remedy Belladonna (from my home first aid homeopathic remedy kit) helped alleviate a toothache from an abscessed tooth over a weekend when my dentist was unavailable. My husband also benefited from homeopathy for two herniated discs, documented by ultrasound and x-rays. He was able to avoid costly surgery that gave him no guarantee. Walking with a cane before homeopathic treatment by our family homeopath, my husband was playing golf a few months later. Experiences such as this, although anecdotal, convince millions of homeopathic patients world-wide that homeopathy is a safe, inexpensive health care alternative choice. We paid for our own homeopathic treatment and drove 3 hours round trip for the consultation.
Oct 23 2013: I have a pinched nerve between my L5 and S1 vertebra. I am under homeopathic care and acupuncture and home traction and nutritional support. It is working, but I feel like I have a way to go. Being 68 (in 1 hour and 53 minutes) probably is why it is taking so long to heal. But I use Arnica 30C for the pain and it works like a charm.Oct 24 2013: Guys, there are people that swear that God helps them with their predicaments regardless of the fact that there is not the least of evidence for such god.
People believe what they want to believe, no matter whether or not this belief makes any sense.
This is true for homeopathy, astrology, supernatural beings, conspiracy theories and many others.
Oct 27 2013: This is very patronising. Surely we should respect even the beliefs that we do not ourselves hold?Oct 28 2013: Angela, I really don't care what people believe, regardless of how little sense this belief might make.
I prefer to stick with real science and not to pseudoscience, magic and superstition.Oct 22 2013: It's clear that the posters so far on this topic have very little idea of how homeopathy is actually practiced, how it works or how much solid scientific evidence there is for its effects. What I am hearing is a bias that has nothing to do with any "transition to the age of reason."
I won't try to get into the nitty gritty of homeopathy here, or bore you with anecdotes; but let me point out a few things that go to the heart of this. First, homeopathy doesn't fit the definition of placebo because it does not require a belief in it to work. Even serious skeptics can be helped with the proper application of homeopathic treatment, and have been. And people who use homeopathy correctly don't just feel better, they are better in demonstrable and reproducible ways. Secondly, homeopathy is not used to the exclusion of other forms of medicine. It's most common use is for health maintenance. People who use homeopathy responsibly understand that there are times when other forms of medical help are necessary, and seek proper medical attention when needed. And both allopathic and homeopathic physicians are aware of the possibilities for negative cross-effects.There are people who use all kinds of medicine irresponsibly, that is not a special characteristic of naturopathic or homeopathic users. Like cures like is a gross oversimplification of the actual effect, and the use is not as simple as a minute amount of ethanol to cure a headache. One of the problems of most attempts to compare homeopathy to drug treatments is that it is not a one-symptom/one-cause/one-cure process.
Even if, as I expect, these observations fall on deaf ears, why would you not "let it be?" I know of no incidents of homeopathic addiction, overdose, debilitating side effects or deaths related to homeopathic use. Acupuncture and chiropractic and other "alternative" medicines are widely accepted now. Shall we also, perhaps, stop people from praying for the ill, a practice broadly supported?
Oct 22 2013: If it's not a placebo, what is homeopathy?
Do you have details about how it works?
Oct 22 2013: Obviously I can't give much detail about how it works in just 2000 characters, any more than one could give an adequate explanation of how most drugs work in the same space. However, a simple Google search will lead you to both homeopathic sites and more objective scientific sites that give lots to think about, regardless of where you come out in the end.
Basically, however, homeopathy begins with the assumption that the human body is capable of dealing with most naturally occurring diseases, and that, though larger doses of things can overwhelm the body's natural processes, very small dose can actually "trigger" those processes. Using your hangover analogy, a homeopath would have to determine as closely as possible what the actual individual symptoms of your particular hangover are, and find a remedy which (if taken in "toxic" doses) would cause those symptoms. Taking that remedy (which would be different for you than for other hangover sufferers) would trigger your body's natural defenses, which the alcohol had overwhelmed.
That's very general and somewhat simplistic, but it's the basic idea. There is, in fact, significant testable evidence that supports homeopathic practice. Look for it. It's not all that hard to find, because homeopathic professionals have always understood that anecdotal evidence is not enough when you are dealing with people's health.
You might also just try a little of it. One thing about homeopathy is that homeopaths never pressure you for more treatment than you need. A common "starter" remedy is Arnica Montana. If you take a few 30c pellets every few hours for the first day after a bruise or a muscle sprain, you should find that pain, swelling, and bruising are reduced quickly without the need for any other pain killers or medications.
Oct 22 2013: " homeopathy begins with the assumption that the human body is capable of dealing with most naturally occurring diseases, and that, though larger doses of things can overwhelm the body's natural processes, very small dose can actually "trigger" those processes "
This makes sense. Except for the very small dose bit. 30 ch mean there are 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001 molecules in the final dilution. Molecules cannot be divided this way, so there is nothing left, really.
Homeopaths claim that's not a problem since water has memory of what's been in it.
That also makes sense, even if there is no theory about it. But still. Do we have the technology that would ensure we end up with the memory of 0.00000000000000000000000000000000001 molecule of X without also getting the memory of 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 of every other thing in the universe?
How can we control this? And how do they mesure it??????
Also, how can you control an experiment where your claim is that your 0.00... 36 zeros...001th of a molecule is causing the healling??? How are the billiions of molecules in the air, in clothes, in food not interfering with your mesurement?
I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying that the pseudo-scientific explanation to back it up is absolute nonsense.
Unless I've missed something, of course...Oct 22 2013: Gerald, homeopathy is magic. Trying to find a physical explanation is a waste of time. Homeopathy disproves materialism, not the other way around.Oct 22 2013: Do your research before you write negative articles, Gerald. Did you ask someone to explain gravity before you believed it?
Oct 22 2013: No, I used to believe that the ground pulled stuff. I didn't ask for anything.
Then people came up with theories about everything attracting everything else. That made no sense to me, so I had to ask for the explanation at that point.
Many times did I not ask for explanations, however, trusting the guy in the white blouse. But I'm working on that, it's something to be ashamed of.Oct 27 2013: Ok Gerald congratulations on being a true sceptic. ie someone who says I don't know but prove it and I will believe rather than the many pseudosceptics who are in fact denyers. For example, one said that he would not believe in homeopathy even if it cured him. This does not seem to me indicative of an open scientific approach. I try not to engage with denyers as it is depressing and no point if someone has a fixed mindset.
There is a lot of published research which demonstrates the effectiveness of homeopathy, statistics from epidemics which ALWAYS show that a larger percentage of patients treated by homeopathy survive than those treated with mainstream medicine, and evidence from the Leptospirosis epidemic in Cuba of the effectiveness in preventing Leptospirosis.
Therefore there is plenty of peer reviewed and statistical evidence that homeopathy is more effective than mainstream medicine. (references already given by others)
This means that the denyers have had to say, "well it's only a placebo" as a way of dismissing its effectiveness.
Homeopathy works by accepting that the symptom is not the disease but the body's response to the disease. Therefore a tiny dose of something which amplifies that response (like cures like) will speed up the healing process. This is why the doses needed are so tiny.
As an analogy homeopathy is the equivalent of pushing a ball downhill and mainstream medicine is pushing it uphill. This is an analogy, not a scientific explanation.
I do not know why the infinitessimal dose seems unaffected by all the other factors you mention. I expect someone has done a study but I don't know of one.
I think the reason your original article sent everyone off in this direction was the tone of "Let's tolerate the loonies if it works for them" which I took from the piece. Apologies if you didn't mean it like that.
Please define what a placebo effect is, and I will discuss it further.Oct 22 2013: There is a reason homeopathy falls into the category of alternative medicine.
The minute its properly tested and scientifically proven to work, its stops being alternative, and starts being just medicine.
I personally haven't seen any proper studies that suggest homeopathy works, and have yet to be properly explained how its even supposed to work on a theoretical basis. All the explanations I've been given don't fit with what I know about biology, chemistry and physics.
With no evidence it works in practice, or reason to believe it ought to work in theory, it seems like nothing more than a scam. A very profitable scam.
Oct 22 2013: Homeopathy is simply considered medicine, not alternative medicine, in much of Europe. The reason it is considered alternative here is simply because it isn't the norm. When something isn't the norm, but some people do it, we call it an alterative. You may not be convinced by the scientific evidence that you have seen, and that's fair if you have seen the best evidence and remain open to the possibility that new evidence might eventually change your mind. There is, in fact, a whole lot of evidence that it works in practice; and there is only one reason to believe that any theory ought to work, and that's because all theories start as nothing more than possibilities. Theories about things routinely accepted today began as ideas that mainstream scientists dismissed as impossible and not even worthy of study.
Nadav Tropp
Oct 22 2013: Very well then, we've established I'm open to evidence, and am willing to reconsider theories I'm not fully aware off.
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Post a link to a study that proves homeopathy works, or make some effort to explain to me how its supposed to work in theory at least. I only care for results, not means, but for that I must have results. Failing that, at least reason to think it ought to have the desired results and is worth trying again.Oct 22 2013: It is the ultimate hubris that you demand proof homeopathy works. Who are you? Do your own research! Unbelievable! You can write all the negative diatribe you want, then demand someone refute your posture?
I do not accept things blindly, I always question. This led me to homeopathy in the first place. And I DID my homework.
Oct 22 2013: No it's not the ultimate hubris. Clearly, skeptics don't know something that believers do, so the query of how it works is not only legitimate but also is at the origin of philosophical progress.
Or perhaps you don't know how it works yourself, in which case you're a skeptic too...Oct 22 2013: It's difficult to know where to send you. There is clearly no single study that will prove that "homeopathy works." There are, however, a lot of studies which deal with the efficacy of specific homeopathic treatments. Remember that homeopathy is highly individualized. That is, there is no simple, single correlation between a symptom or disease and a remedy. For instance, if you were suffering rom migraines, a homeopath wouldn't simply give you a pre-determined migraine remedy, but would find out as much as possible about your health over all, then give you a remedy specifically for your migraines. The best studies, therefor, use this individualized approach. One possible starting point for finding studies you could look at is this:
Dana Ullman is, of course, a homeopathic physician, but since you are asking for links to research, this article gives those links as well as a pretty thorough discussion of results, limitations, and controversies regarding the scientific study of homeopathic remedies. You could always follow up with your own look at some of the studies he cites. At the very least, these studies ought to give you the sense that homeopathy is worthy of further consideration. Homeopaths aren't snake-oil salesmen; they are scientists and medical professionals (many are trained in allopathic medicine also, sometimes before trying homeopathy) who are very interested in both showing the efficacy of the remedies and in doing more research to try to understand how it works.
Oct 22 2013: Of course, the whole "personalized" thing makes the whole thing much harder to isolate as a variable, and therefore properly test.
All in all, the research papers I've read haven't convinced me homeopathy works (having gone through those that say its effective as well as those that say its useless).
I still find the underlying principle ridiculous however.
It doesn't fit with anything I know about the human immune system. Small doses of harmful materials can sometimes be used to build up a resistance preemptively, but only rarely after the fact, and usually with things the immune system handles like viruses, not burns or bleeding.
My biggest problem is the potency however. According to the homeopath's own math, the dilution is so great that I'd need an electron microscope just to figure out this stuff isn't plain water. In fact, something diluted 1:10 30 times should have only a single molecule of the original material left. I could swallow a single molecule of radioactive polonium, and nothing would happen to me, good or ill--just not enough material to make a difference.
Assuming the water somehow "remembers" traits of the material that used to be in it... Lets just say it contradicts practically everything I know about chemistry.
Kuldeep negi
Oct 22 2013: I think homeopathy is the best treatment one can have, but if you are not satisfied with the treatment after a duration change your homeopathy Doctor (may be he is less experienced) but not the homeopathy treatment.Oct 24 2013: I see that everyone here has had the opportunity to present their views. After reading opinion pieces such as this, as well as articles and books with information on both sides, it is up to the health care consumer to do their own research and form their own opinions. Foremost in many of their minds will be the underlying fact that the popularity of homeopathy is growing because conventional medicine with all it's double-blind, placebo controlled research trials and billion dollar marketing efforts is ...wait for it... failing the health care consumers they are supposed to serve. Finally, since health care is a market driven for profit industry, the method of health care that is most effective for the money spent will ultimately win out with patients and funding by national government entities, no matter what the skeptics claim or how they attempt to thwart the dissemination of information regarding alternative health care choices.
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Oct 24 2013: Selling snake oil (= homeopathic remedies) seems profitable to me as well. Especially in the light that there are no huge R&D expenditures, clinical tests, etc.
That said, making profit isn't bad. That's what companies live for.
You see everything black and white. As many things, the pharma industry is far from being perfect. However, neglecting the countless lives saved because of "big pharma" can only be called ignorance.
Oct 24 2013: I have moved on. Time for you to do the same.
Oct 24 2013: Wise choice ;-)Oct 24 2013: Honestly, if homeopathy worked, big pharmaceutical companies would have already taken it over. They don't really care where the money comes from. In fact, homeopathic medication is much cheaper to develop, and could theoretically be sold at a higher mark up; large teams of biologists, doctors and chemists, as well as their facilities are all quite expensive after all. Homeopathic remedies are dirt cheap to produce by comparison.
Thing is, as most of their other products actually do something other than the placebo effect, they have a reputation to maintain.
Say what you will about "big pharma", they're not stupid. If it worked, they'd already be knees deep in the homeopathic market.
Oct 24 2013: I have moved on. Time for you to do the same.
Joshua Bond
Oct 26 2013: Hi Nadav,
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You state "Honestly, if homeopathy worked, big pharmaceutical companies would have already taken it over." Well they are in a way - by lobbying to make it illegal. But what are they so scared of? (I'm married to a homeopath and have not been near an allopathic doctor for 25 years, so perhaps I'm biased).
Oct 26 2013: They're scared of loosing money to people who seek homeopathic treatment as opposed to conventional medicine. It doesn't have to work for people to seek it out so long as they think it works.
If it really was effective, than the pharmaceutical companies would have tried to carve themselves out a slice of the profits instead; more money in it. Problem is, being pharmaceutical companies, they have a reputation to uphold--if they can't scientifically prove it works, they can't touch it.
Joshua Bond
Oct 27 2013: Hi Nadav,
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Thanks for your reply. I agree that the pharma industry cannot scientifically prove how or why homeopathy 'works', partly because they have the wrong paradigm of the human body to start with, and partly because scientific measuring instruments are not yet powerful enough to measure the complexity of the homeopathic process.
Not so long ago quarks could not be measured, and although their existence was posited in theory, they could not be scientifically proved until the technical measuring apparatus was sufficiently sophisticated to measure them.
The religion of scientism, which declares "we can't measure it therefore it does not exist and/or it is not important" is the paradigm that is ruining our planet and perpetuating a destructive economic system.
Of course it doesn't get any closer to home than when it concerns your own body that is "mal-functioning"; which is why people desperately seek alternatives. People also desperately rely on standard medicine too to "heal them", but when (for example) it comes to something like cancer the honest truth is standard medicine doesn't know, but is happy to sell drugs and experiment on people.
The current medical profession is fantastic for mending smashed up bodies, but when it comes to tackling longer-term accumulating dis-ease, I reckon homeopathy and other alternatives have something genuine to offer.
Oct 27 2013: The problem with homeopathy isn't that we can't measure it, its because everything we know about particle physics and chemistry tells us there is nothing to measure.
Water does not have a "molecular memory". Nothing does; it completely contradicts everything we know about its structure.
Quarks used to be immeasurable, but the theoretical side of things supported their existence. The theoretical side of things says homeopathy has no reason to work.
I could mix my water with a single water of radioactive polonium or hydrogen cyanide, and it will do me neither good nor ill. It won't matter, because the dosage is so small its irrelevant. Its like taking a penny out of circulation in a global economy, completely negligible.
Its better this way, honestly. If water did have a memory, than it'll also be affected by all those other things is used to contain over the years. Mineral deposits, the stuff that floats around in swamps, air pollution, the innards of animals and plants... Why should that single molecule that's left in the homeopathic medicine overcome all of those?Oct 28 2013: Hi Nadav,
I thought Masaru Emoto's work on water (in "The hidden Messages in Water") showed that water can have a memory, but maybe I've misunderstood it. It certainly seems to show that human thought has an effect on water, and that the water then "memorizes" it and reveals it in the differing crystalline structure when frozen.
Back to homeopathy - how much does information "weigh" as in being measurable? Assuming the body is an energy-information exchange system (rather than merely a mechanical system with tube, pumps, and electrical pulses) then information can be introduced into the body in a variety of ways.
When an allopathic pill is given, it has a chemical content with a chemical-biological impact on the patient, but what is really happening is that information is being fed into the human energy-information-body system that is contained in the chemistry of the make-up of the pill.
Likewise for a homeopathic pill, information is also being given via the pill, though lacking in the chemical content of an allopathic pill. To answer your question, it is not just a case of dilution to the "single molecule that's left in the homeopathic medicine", but the fact that it has been potentised as well, which greatly increases its energy.
{As an after-thought, talk-therapies don't use any pills at all, but the patient is also being fed information (which is essentially being done too with placebo "pills"). This can also get healing results, as least as far as the patient is concerned}.Oct 27 2013: My reference was not to Schroedinger's cat, which would have been too easy, but to a different experiment. But my knowledge of quantum is as anecdotal as your knowledge of homeopathy, so I cannot give you the full reference. It is about not knowing whether something is a wave or a particle and upon observation finding that it is a particle when you look for a particle but a wave when you look for a wave. But that further illustrates my point. Anything can be trivialised by willful misunderstanding. 500, 000,000 people use homeopathy as their healthcare of choice, (WHO statistic). Whether it is placebo or not, it is obviously doing a lot of good for a lot of people.
Oct 27 2013: Popularity does not imply quality or effectiveness. Blood letting was plenty popular for years before someone realized what an idiotic practice it was. And that's with a practice that actively caused damage--think just how long it would have taken to realize it doesn't help if it did nothing at all?
Seeing as my knowledge of homeopathy is truly anecdotal, perhaps you'd care to explain the mechanics of how it functions?
I freely admit I'm no doctor, but I do know a thing or two about chemistry and physics, and they say homeopathy isn't supposed to do anything.
I'm a man of science. When shown proper evidence and have them properly explained, I'm willing to flip my view on a dime, even if its one I've harbored passionately for many years (happened to me with global warming for instance). I'd be embarrassed as hell in the process, but I will change my stance given satisfactory reason.
Oct 27 2013: @Nadav
In the days of blood letting and the like, there was no alternative choice in health care; i.e., medical treatment. So, that talking point can be laid to rest.
The health care industry is a market driven entity. When faced with an illness that conventional medicine can only palliate, people naturally seek out something that does. It becomes popular. Sex and success sells.
The intellectually lazy red flag alert pops up when any skeptic tries to counter a supporter of homeopathy by asking that they explain the mechanics of, or how homeopathy functions. I am reminded of college and grad students who ask for and depend on other students' lecture notes. Why would any rationalizing person expect that they would waste their time sitting in the professors' lecture halls themselves? Since you claim to be a man of science, I hope that your question does not indicate that scientists no longer do their own independent research.
The opinions and now dead-on-arrival talking points have failed to turn the health care consumers away from homeopathy. It's popular because it works. Health care consumers will continue to spend their money where it does the best good. Put the blame for the success of homeopathy where it properly belongs, at the alter of conventional medicine. It's a proven fact that most homeopathic patients have already tried conventional medicine. It failed them. What platitudes would you offer these patients when faced with an unrelenting painful chronic disease or worse, a life or death decision?
Oct 27 2013: When I did my own research, I ended up finding pseduoscientific nonsense that would get you thrown out of a high school chemistry lab, never mind somewhere respectable.
This "water memory" nonsense doesn't sit well with our understanding of the molecular structure of water specifically, or any other material in general.
I also came up with how homeopathy was originally conceived. Derived from the concept of trying to fight fire with fire as it were, a researcher (or doctor, or whatever, his credentials aren't the point) tried prescribing patients with various harmful materials that caused the same symptoms they were experiencing. As he throughout his experiments lowered the dosage of these harmful materials, he noted that patients were getting better faster.
No control group in sight, unfortunately, leading to one rather obvious conclusion--patients improve faster when you lower the dosage of poison you're giving them. Well ****, I could have told you that.
On an unrelated note concerning the whole success thing, go ahead and compare the amount of money spent on conventional medicine as opposed to homeopathy. Compare the number of clinics, or the number of practitioners, even the amount of each type of treatment sold.
You'll find conventional medicine is still firmly in the lead, and for good reason.Oct 28 2013: To Nadav, not me. Sorry.
Believe what you want. Conventional medicine is not still firmly in the lead. Read this editorial from my blog. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
Homeopathy, the skeptics. How Effective are They Really?
Joshua Bond
Oct 28 2013: Nadav, if you wait for scientific proof, you might just miss the next wave. Sometimes things are discovered that work, before the science behind them can explain why they work.
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In Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" there is appears to be a well-worn repeating pattern of the existing scientific paradigm dismissing new theories (with limited or no evidence) because the scientific measuring methods are not yet up to it. Also, there are huge vested interests in maintaining the current paradigm in the face of growing evidence otherwise. All this I'm sure you already know.
You're going to ask me "what's the growing evidence?". Well, there's plenty of info on either side, and how much of it is "evidence" I'm not sure.
But the point is more that there has to be a way to move on fast with what works, and when eventually science measuring catches up with its own evidence as to why it works, then fair enough - but in the meantime, isn't the truly scientific thing to keep an open mind?Oct 28 2013: "I do not know why the infinitessimal dose seems unaffected by all the other factors you mention"
Neither do I, nor do I know how it was proven that the infinitessimal dose does seem to affect the body.
I can't let go of my skepticism until this one is cleared, I'm sure you can understand why. If the argument is that the body can sense the intake of a infinite fraction of a molecule, how would you design the experimental protocol that makes sure the body doesn't react to something else?
And also, not even asking where the medecine goes once you've taken it and where in the body the like-cures-like process is fired, I'm skeptic about the dillution idea. My ignorance in medecine allows me to accept like cures like if actual molecules end up in a body. But I can't accept that there is such a thing in chemistry as 1/10 to the power 36th of a molecule. Why? Because nothing would make sense anymore.
If someone tells me everything I know about molecules is false, then yeah, I need a GREAT explanation. Not annecdotes or personnal acounts. And not even tests results.Oct 22 2013: I fully support Homeopathy. It has worked for me, my family, even our dog, and the 5 kids, that are in my wife's daycare.
At one point I had an object in my eye lid and was scheduled by the doctor for surgery. My wife gave me a Hom. medicine and a few days later she asked me how my eye was. I said 'what eye?' and then remembered the issue, but the eye was fine. The doctor was amazed and said my eye was fine. He asked me to let him know what medicine I used. In fact that medicine is not at all recommended for people with foreign objects in their body because of injury or operations, because this med. may well cause the body to somehow 'push' it out.
I'm also keeping my eye pressure under control with Hom. med.
Children easily get hurt by bumping into things (almost daily). With Hom. med they will not even get a bulge. It helps kids well because they don't drink coffee :)
Homeopathy certainly has its limits, but for minor stuff it works great!
My personal opinion, and that's all it is, is that homeopathy gives our soul an indication of an issue with a certain aspect of the body, which it then concentrates on.
Roger Bird
Oct 22 2013: Science dismisses the subjective because it gets in the way of understanding objects, thus the objective viewpoint. This is most excellent when you are dealing with hydrogen bombs and stripped toothpaste and bridges and other purely physical objects. But what do we do when the thing is not just an object, like, perhaps, a human being. I am an intersection between the objective and the subjective, an intersection of body, "energy", mind, and spirit. Skeptopaths don't understand this and imagine that the only way to know anything is from the objective viewpoint. Consequently they are STUPID and oblivious when it comes to subjective matters, and they assume that they have a monopoly on all knowing, when in fact they are dreadfully shallow.
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The power of suggestion or the placebo effect is just the beginning of understanding the subjective. Understanding and experiencing the subjective goes way beyond that.
I am going to guess that EVERY SINGLE male skeptopath has one of the following: no relationship with a woman, a dominating relationship with a woman, or a terribly rocky relationship with a woman. The female skeptopaths probably have a better go at it, but not by much. And I am betting that the male skeptopaths can't figure out what this has to do with anything. It has to do with the pathological denial of the subjective.
I love my doggies with all my heart; I know that they are semi-conscious God in doggie form trying to evolve into full consciousness. And I am helping them with love and affection and good food and scratching their bellies and playing with them.
Homeopathy has been working for me and my family for the past 44 years. That, I say, that is some kind of placebo effect!
Oct 22 2013: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/acm.2011.0706
Interesting research here - 58% of the men went to the allopath, 56% of women went to the homeopath - and yes, each were prescribed the other meds as well, but the women were happier with their care!Oct 22 2013: This is what the homeopathy skeptics are fighting to maintain:
This is what homeopaths and their patients are fighting to maintain:
"The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston – The US department of alternative medicine followed the cases presented in Corfu with lab trials using Banerji's homeopathic medicine on cancer cells at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center (MDACC) in Houston. Dr. Sen Pathak, Prof. of Cell Biology & Genetics, at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, collaborated in this joint research between the PBHRF and the MDACC. The research work is now complete and published. An in vitro study with the medicines has shown brilliant results in killing brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The paper entitled "Ruta 6 selectively induces cell death in brain cancer cells but proliferation in normal peripheral blood lymphocytes: A novel treatment for human brain cancer" was jointly published with Pathak S, Multani AS, of the Department of Molecular Genetics, M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA., in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology. (PBHRF and the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA conducted jointly an in vitro research study on the effectiveness of the medicines Ruta 6 and Calcarea Phosphorica 3X in destroying brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The research study was published in the form of a paper in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology.)"
The illusionist James Randi was challenged by a world renouned homeopath Dr. George Vithoulkas of Greece, but Mr. Randi backed out. James Randi Backs Out of Challenge with Homeopath George Vithoulkas
Oct 22 2013: This is what Randi replies to Vithoulkas' accusations :
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/235-george-vithoulkas-homeopathy-challenge-starting-anew.htmlOct 22 2013: Do you believe in a conspiracy against homeopathy, then?
Oct 22 2013: Will the Top Skeptic "Amazing Randi" Be Federally Indicted in Florida? By Tim Bolen
Sunday, October 23rd, 2011
"It's looking good for that. Hooray. I'll explain below. I have absolutely no use for the group that describes themselves as "Skeptics." The group, made up, I believe, of life's flotsam and jetsam, inhabits the internet after a minimal training at some skeptic conference teaching them how to be even nastier, sleazier, human beings than they were before they found the organized clutter based out of Amherst, New York. This group is reinforced by a five foot tall moron who calls himself 'The Amazing Randi.'
Nadav Tropp
Oct 22 2013: Ad hominem, a common fallacy involving attacking the speaker instead of his spoken words.
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I'll readily describe myself as a skeptic, and all I want to see is some proper scientific evidence. You could attack my character all you wish, it has not logical implication on what I'm saying.
Let me list a few other things I'm skeptical about, to show you that you too are probably skeptical, at least about something. I'm skeptical concerning the 9/11 truther movement. I don't think the global Jewish banker conspiracy is real. I don't think there was a great flood of biblical proportions where only a small family of humans and a pair of every animal survived in a wooden box.
Skepticism isn't a dirty word. Its merely asking to see evidence rather than believing everything you're told without proof.Oct 23 2013: Nadav --
I recommend that if you want to see studies you do some research on your own. You will many of them at:
www.hpathy.comOct 25 2013: If homeopathy is a placebo and it works, then what's all the fuss about? If it helps cure people of certain ills through psychosomatic suggestion and belief, why should it be discounted just because it lies outside the realms of science?
Doesn't the success rate of placebo actually suggest an ability to cure ourselves using our own innate physiological and psychological defences, partly obviating a dependence on pharmacology for minor ills?
It depends whether you consider placebo to be a remarkable ability of human physiology to effect cure, or whether you dismiss it altogether as a sham illusion.
Personally, I think it's remarkable and I'm open to all possibilities of such psychosomatic phenomena because it works too often and too effectively to ignore. It doesn't matter if it is homeopathy or double-blind dummy pills in pharmacology trials, it is still deserving of a lot more research - if modern science can just jettison some of its silly prejudices.
Oct 26 2013: If nothing else it would be an ethical problem. For traditional medicine there are clearly defined pathways how the medicine works, hence the patient can have a realistic expectation that his disease is treated.
With a Placebo it's different. There is no clearly defined mechanism how it works and it's not even sure that it works at all.
So, selling a placebo to a cancer patient instead of real medicine would be something highly unethical in my view.
Oct 26 2013: Hi Harald.
Agree with you that life-threatening illnesses like cancer should not be left entirely to placebo, because the psychosomatic element of self-cure may work well in some people but not others.
I agree also that placebo has no defined mechanism. But is that because such mechanisms remain unresearched due to medical science's reluctance to attach itself in any way to autosuggestion and the possibility of positive belief in the body's ability to heal itself?
Although a nebulous area at present, I think placebo deserves to be moved from a vague new-age oddity to real science, for the simple reason that for many people, it works. That science is more likely to be within the realms of behavioural psychology, rather than analyses of what the constituents are in a homeopathic remedy. For such science to work, it would need to ally itself much more to the philosophical elements of human existence - and to stop dismissing it as 'pseudoscience'.
We need to find all this out - and I for one want to know what is driving that mechanism of self-cure.
Oct 26 2013: What works in the case of a placebo is not the placebo but the mind. The placebo in this case is nothing more than an aid to get your own body to cure yourself.
So, if that works, it means that the disease was psychosomatic in the first place which further means that with proper mental conditioning it would have been avoidable or if not avoided at least curable without the aid of a placebo.
The concept of a placebo is not pseudoscience but a placebo is something that really shouldn't be necessary.Oct 27 2013: I took my aging cat to a homeopathic vet. He has ordinary vet qualifications as well as going on to get homeopathic qualifications. Before homeopathic treatment my cat's heartbeat sounded like swish swish instaed of boom boom. The vet said this was hypertrophy (overgrowth ) of her heart. ONE MONTH LATER after only homeopathic treatment, her heartbeat was boom boom, although with a very slight underlying hiss. If this was acheived by placebo please explain to me how my vet's belief influenced my cat. I personally was not expecting the heartbeat to improve. So it wasn't my placebo effect on the cat. She had been conventionally treated previously with no effect. My trip to the homeopathic vet was TEETH (tried everything else, try homeopathy.)Oct 27 2013: I love this type of testimonial Angela! Thanks for posting it. I have another:
"Actium the Bird and His Lipoma
Homeopathy works brilliantly for human health problems but did you know it works just at well for animals? The disappearing lipoma of Actium, my budgerigar is just one example. Take a look at his story and photographs – you'll be amazed at what happened."
Source: http://homeopathyplus.com.au/actium-the-bird-and-his-lipoma/#sthash.bzsVUC3y.dpuf
I personally treated my Black Labrador Retriever with homeopathic Silicea for a lipoma the size of a golf ball. No expensive surgery, stitches or antibiotics needed. And, there is no residual scar.Oct 26 2013: I have my doubts about the effectiveness of placebos.
The problem is, placebos oftentimes make people feel better in a mental sense, without actually being physically better.
When conducting research, its oftentimes difficult to pin point precisely how well someone is. Some things, like blood pressure and temperature can be easily measured, but other parameters aren't so easy to quantify. In practice, what's often done is simply asking the test subject how well they feel over time. Say their physical condition is a 7, and without a placebo they report a 7; with a placebo, their physical condition may still well be a 7, but they report a 9, because they think they've gotten better.
There are all sorts of problems testing this of course, which is why its hard to say precisely how effective placebos really are.
Besides, conventional medicine can do placebos just fine. Some doctors have an ethical problem using them, but if anything, a doctor should have an easier time prescribing a believable placebo than a homeopath--most skeptics trust the doctor, for one.
Of course, it'll only take as long as you'd need to google the medicine... Blind faith does have its advantages; life is so much simpler.
Oct 28 2013: The power of the mind is vastly underestimated in its ability to affect the body. It can go either way into a feedback spiral - upwards into wellness or downwards into illness, depending on the state of mind at the time.
I get the mechanisms of placebo and nocebo effects, and can even accept the possibility that pet owner's placebo-inspired positivity can be transferred to their animals, but Angela (who doesn't have a 'reply' button) says that such transference did not exist with her pet during and after treatment. I'm afraid I'm stumped by that one.
I'd like to believe that the actual constituents of homeopathic remedies are the things actually doing the curing of people and animals - but I have real problems in getting to grips with things like 'water memory' and dilutions equivalent to one pinch of salt added to the Atlantic Ocean. Can someone please explain?
Harald Jezek
Oct 23 2013: As a chemist I'm doubtful that homeopathy can work, considering that some homeopathic products are so diluted that one can't even find a single molecule of the active ingredient in it.
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On the other hand, I have no trouble with homeopathy because it is unlikely to cause any harm.
So if somebody wants to go this path then fine, although I wouldn't recommend trying homeopathic treatments for life threatening diseases.Oct 23 2013: This is what the homeopathy skeptics are fighting to maintain:
This is what homeopaths and their patients are fighting to maintain:
"The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston – The US department of alternative medicine followed the cases presented in Corfu with lab trials using Banerji's homeopathic medicine on cancer cells at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center (MDACC) in Houston. Dr. Sen Pathak, Prof. of Cell Biology & Genetics, at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, collaborated in this joint research between the PBHRF and the MDACC. The research work is now complete and published. An in vitro study with the medicines has shown brilliant results in killing brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The paper entitled "Ruta 6 selectively induces cell death in brain cancer cells but proliferation in normal peripheral blood lymphocytes: A novel treatment for human brain cancer" was jointly published with Pathak S, Multani AS, of the Department of Molecular Genetics, M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA., in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology. (PBHRF and the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA conducted jointly an in vitro research study on the effectiveness of the medicines Ruta 6 and Calcarea Phosphorica 3X in destroying brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The research study was published in the form of a paper in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology.)"
Oct 23 2013: Isn't this what you already copy - pasted from that blog yesterday?
Oct 23 2013: So? It's a result of my OWN research and a part of my OWN personal files. Therefore, I have a right to copy and paste where I feel it makes a valid point.
Oct 23 2013: Oh it's your own research, great! I have so many questions.
The first one is : how does it work? Or is your research only about writing on blogs that phosphorica Z15 and zormax 1000 destroy cancer cells?
What's the theory. How do they destroy the cells?
Is "the medecine" a dillution of something, or is it made with actual molecules?
Thanks!Oct 24 2013: any answers to my questions?Oct 23 2013: To answer the question posed in the title, I think you should let homeopathy be.
The skeptics' comments here, and in other articles favorable to homeopathy, represent the typical thought process of those who worship at the alter of conventional medicine versus that of homeopathic medicine. For example, con med treats the results of disease (diarrhea, inflammation, headaches, COPD, GERD, etc) with medications to stop, or suppress the symptoms. This is symptoms (of disease) control or management, not disease cure. The distinction between the two is vast and crucial.
Homeopathic medicine, on the other hand, aims to cure a disease process taking into account the person's entire constellation of symptoms, life style, genetic predisposition (miasms), the mental state and even preferences for food (salty or sweet), to temperature (prefers cold weather, or hot); and even fears (fear of heights, thunderstorms).
It is not up to homeopathy to prove that it works because it has and does. Opinions of skeptics, who adopt their talking points from other skeptics, are not proof that homeopathy is not effective. Outside the realm of emergency care and surgery, conventional medicine has been a dismal failure. And, because of this health care consumers world-wide are seeking alternatives. This poses a giant threat to the pharmaceutical industry who pads the bank accounts of physicians, even first year medical students. Any wonder why then that this fact has spawned a plethora of idle minds willing to comment for cash and post for pounds worldwide? Fortunately, their efforts are failing.
Oct 23 2013: " conventional medicine has been a dismal failure "
This is utter ignorance. Do you believe in viruses and bacteria?
A century ago, alternative medecine was the only thing in town. Life expectancy was half what it is now.
Or do you attribute our longer lives to other factors, such as better nutrition like that of Americans who live to be 77?
And how about the 50% drop in infant mortality since the fifties?
The very fact that you're alive and posting rubish is an hommage to the science of medecine that's been struggling with sorcery and superstition and figuring out how the body actually works. Your ignorance is a luxury. You'd be worried about being alive next spring instead of worrying about whether you like salt or sugar best or about your very favorite bath temperature.
" It is not up to homeopathy to prove that it works because it has and does "
Well argued. Although prescientific arguments work better on skeptics if they're tied up and tortured.
Also, how have you explained that homeopathy is more than a placebo?
Nadav Tropp
Oct 23 2013: 'Modern medicine' and 'failure' rarely appear stitched together in the same sentence.
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Here's a short, and very non-comprehensive list:
--Average life expectancy has more than doubled. Infant mortality numbers especially are down.
--Small pox, formally one of the deadliest diseases in human history, has been eradicated in nature.
--We have a thing called preventable diseases nowadays. Things like polio, tetanus, most strains of flu. Before modern medicine, these preventable conditions used to be called cest la vie. Or more crudely, **** happens.
--Antibiotics. Even a simple infection used to be a life threatening condition less than a century ago. Nowadays, treatable.
--An understanding how you get sick to begin with, so you can avoid it, even without vaccines. Miasmia my foot, its something called microorganisms.
Hardly just "treating the symptoms".
Claiming modern medicine has failed is what's called perfect solution fallacy. Its not perfect sure, nothing is, but that doesn't mean its not worth implementing.
If I came up with some invention tomorrow which would cut death via traffic accidents in half, I'm sure it'll be implemented in a heartbeat. Claiming modern medicine has failed is like saying that the invention isn't worth using because it won't save the other half of the people that die on the road.
Oct 23 2013: @Navad Tropp
Polio eradicated? Nope.
Smallpox eradicated? Nope.
"Antibiotics. Even a simple infection used to be a life threatening condition less than a century ago. Nowadays, treatable."
Nope. Because of the over prescribing of antibiotics for self-limiting conditions, super bugs have developed that are resistant to antibiotics. See: "Antibiotics Can't Keep Up With 'Nightmare' Superbugs"
With regard to the improving infant mortality, you did not cite any source. In just a few minutes of researching, I found some interesting facts. Infant mortality rates are significantly less in countries where the practice of homeopathy is accepted and in some cases funded by their national health services, including Cuba, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Switzerland, the UK and the U.S.
And, in Greece where the practice of homeopathy fluorishes, the health care system is ranked as one of the best in the world. "The Greek healthcare system is universal and is ranked as one of the best in the world. In a 2000 World Health Organization report it was ranked 14th in the overall assessment and 11th at quality of service, surpassing countries such as the United Kingdom (18th) and Germany (25th).[52] Life expectancy in Greece is 80.3 years, above the OECD average of 79.5.[54] and among the highest in the world. In 2008 Greece had the highest rate of perceived good health in the OECD, at 98.5%.[55] Infant mortality is one of the lowest in the developed world with a rate of 3.1 deaths/1000 live births.
Your invention 2 cut traffic accidents is better than spreading disinformation about homeopathy.
Oct 24 2013: I never claimed polio was eradicated, just preventable, and vastly on the decline.
As for smallpox, no one has caught it in decades. The only place it exists today is in labs in the US and Russia for biological weapons and defense purposes.
The vaccines themselves did some damage true, they're much more harmful than your average vaccine, but its nothing compared to say, a smallpox outbreak. You're comparing a few thousand headaches, mild fevers, and maybe a fatality or two to potentially millions of deaths.
As for antibiotics, again, perfect solution fallacy. Just because its not a magical catch all solution doesn't mean its worthless. Over prescription and people not finishing their prescriptions may have reduced the effectiveness somewhat, but these antibiotic resistant bugs are still the exception, not the rule.
A garden variety infection that was life threatening just a century ago is still considered an inconvenience today.
As for your research, homeopathy has nothing to do with it. Those are all first world countries, and the very fact they have proper national health services to begin with probably have something to do with it...
The thing is, infant mortality is down all over the world thanks to modern medicine, including places that have never even heard of homeopathy. If you look at infant mortality across a time table, and compare it to the invention and spread of homeopathy, you'll find no correlation.
Same for Greece. There are a billion different things that affect life expectancy, and unless you've managed to isolate variables either experimentally or statistically, you just can't attribute it to one factor.Oct 27 2013: Beautifully put and with references. Thanks SandraOct 23 2013: Personally, I try to scrimp and save every penny, and I do a good job of it.
Every health generating activity or item that is close to free is ignored because no one is getting paid to promote it. Every older person should drink 8 glasses of water a day (with mineral supplementation. I use hard spring water, so I don't need much in the way of mineral supplementation), but you will never hear about it because no one can make enough money off of it to spend the time and money to promote it. No conspiracy or greed here; just the way life works: people have to make a living.
I also see that people fancy that the exotic is going to make them healthy. So some berries or herb from the Western Ghats in India is suppose to be so ultra-cool for your health, but apples are ignored. Apples just aren't exotic enough.


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With all due respect Shane, give it a rest. It might have been cool at some point or another to constantly remind people of where you worked, but it's since become repetitive and at times unpleasant.
There are two sides to all of this. Microsoft made changes that they feel were necessary due to what they can see internally (Something you repeatedly remind us you're privy to, at least to some degree) and the view customers have where things were changed "just cause" for all intents and purposes. Maybe sometimes you need to step back and discuss some of these things as a consumer, which is what everyone else around here is. Your position doesn't need to change (everyone is entitled to their own opinion), but you might want to rethink the way you bring it across. The "I worked for Microsoft and know what I'm talking about, you're all wrong" attitude that you exude is really starting to get old. You'd probably find that there are few who really actually care who you may or may not have worked for in the past or present. Has anyone asked you to prove you know better than anyone else around here (aka. Prove you worked where you say you worked)? Anyone can say all sorts of things on the Internet.

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When someone mentions the words "Shelby" or "Cobra", two things come to mind: big power and mind blowing performance. Taking a small car and shoehorning a high performance V8 between its fenders is a way of life for American hot rodders, but nobody did it better than Ol Shel. And the great thing about today is we can take a timeless design, sprinkle in a few modern components, add some advanced engineering and create an out-of-this-world custom which maximizes both speed and appeal. This 1965 Cobra, which began life at Factory Five Racing and is currently owned by The Hunger Games star Josh Hutcherson, is the ultimate car for someone who wants a pro-built piece without the hassle of tracking down parts and waiting for someone to bolt them together! If you're one of the growing number of enthusiasts who wants to walk in, write a check and drive away the proud owner of a top notch classic, RK Motors Charlotte has you covered!
When this roadster was chosen as a tribute, nothing was overlooked or forgotten as the car was assembled over a two year period to be as close to an authentic 1965 Cobra as possible. And believe me, all that hard work really paid off because the car's smooth and solid fiberglass body would definitely give an original aluminum roadster a serious run for its money. Of course Factory Five has long been applauded for their great fiberglass work, and this car is no exception as its virtually flawless gelcoat doesn't have a wave or ripple anywhere. Additionally, the typical tight gaps found on all Factory Five projects result in excellent panel fit and a smooth canvas for a Porsche Artic Silver Metallic basecoat and a traditional black Cobra stripe. And completing the car's head turning good looks is a set of correct reproduction PS Engineering wheels which spin fresh 235/60/15 front and 275/50/15 rear BF Goodrich Radial T/As around authentic wing nut center caps that are equipped with functional safety wires.
The difference between winning the game and being relegated to a forgotten casualty of kit car has-beens is a direct result of detail and accuracy. This car, which features a correct frame, a correct aluminum trunk panel and correct aluminum engine bay panels, is the kind of build that looks good from any distance and performs well under any circumstances. The glass, including correct visors is brand new and the driver side exterior mirror appears correct to 1965. New headlights and tail lights present as if they could be original equipment. And jet-hot coated side pipes wrap the exact appearance and profile of an original Cobra in years of weather-proof reliability. Behind the driver seat you'll find a traditional roll bar that's finished in the same flat black hue as the car's traditional bumperettes. And even small things like mesh grilles, accurate fender gills and a correct aluminum fuel filler look good and feel original. Spend five minutes getting up close and personal with this roadster and it becomes very apparent it was built to mimic a true Cobra in every way possible.
But enough about the trim, the real measure of any contender is muscle and performance, and I assure you this tribute won't disappoint. With a 351 Windsor block that's been stroked to 383 cubic inches, this quick Cobra will come out on top of any back country street war, staged or not! The top end of that awesome stroker block is beefed up by a 750 Demon carburetor, an Edelbrock RPM aluminum intake and World Product Jack Roush heads. An MSD Distributor provides the spark via high quality Taylor plug wires while a hydraulic cam, hydraulic lifters and roller tip rockers turn compression into power. Cooling isn't an issue as a Ron Davis Racing aluminum radiator and an aluminum water pump keep everything in check. Just under the hood a Cobra air filter and Cobra valve covers inversely complement the black on silver exterior paint. The clean, flat black engine bay is completed by aluminum pulleys and braided hoses which add just the right amount of detail and bright work. And a look underneath the car shows the continuation of that clean black and metal theme with the black frame and suspension components contrasting the natural finish metal floorpan.
One of the best things about buying a completed project is the modern technology already incorporated into its DNA. It's almost as if this car has been trained its whole life to compete and become the pride of the whole Cobra community. Bolted behind its hot small block engine is a modern TKO 5-speed performance transmission. That transmission feeds power to a proven Mustang 8.8 inch rear axle housing which is complete with tall 3.73 gears. When this drivetrain is combined with Factory Five's modern Mustang 5.0 based suspension, the result is a car that's insanely fun to drive because of its low power to weight ratio but doesn't need to stop at every gas station in the process. However, if you do need to stop, power assisted front disc brakes provide excellent resistance to the 383's big power.
You can't win any battle without being equipped with the best tools and skills available; and the inside of this Cobra is one of the most complete and accurate Factory Five interiors we've ever seen. You'll find new correct bucket seats finished in black leather with four point Simpson harnesses. A correct reproduction dash houses correct Smiths gauges and features the correct 8,000 RPM no redline tachometer. New carpet is protected by Cobra floor mats. And details include a replica wood and aluminum steering wheel, a chrome shifter and hand brake and a new chrome fire extinguisher. Behind the cockpit a fully carpeted trunk houses only the battery and retains much of its usability. I haven't seen many replicas that are this well done and have this level of detail. From top to bottom, nothing has been overlooked inside or out.
Carefully assembled, flawless in condition and equipped with the hardware to deliver the ride of your life, this Cobra is sure to satisfy anyone in the market for the complete package. Why waste your valuable time waiting for a car to be built when we have everything you could ever want sitting in our showroom? You simply can't miss this opportunity to own this turn-key Factory Five car that's just as nice as an original Cobra, and probably more fun to drive, at a fraction of the price!
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- Single 4 Barrel
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- 5 Speed Manual
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- No Radio
- Battery Location
- Trunk
- Battery Shut Off
- At battery
- Battery Charger
- None
- Power Steering
- No
- Air Conditioning
- No
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- Bucket
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- Leather
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- Floor
- Center Console
- No
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All the recent media attention regarding Mad Cow Disease has raised some interesting questions. Such as...
Mad Cow Disease and been around for 15 years yet animal industries around the globe have used meat and bone meal as a feed ingredient since World War II. Why has BSE waited until now to raise its ugly head?
Britain stopped exporting contaminated cattle feed to other European countries in 1991. So why are cases of Mad Cow springing up now in places like Germany ten years later?
In France the number of infected cows doubled in the last year while in most other EU countries the number of Mad Cows has already peaked and declined. Why?
British scientists and officials respond that BSE and new variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease, the human form of the disease, both have long incubation periods and that explains the delayed fuse on the BSE time bomb that has ravaged the cattle business in the European Union. But what if the scientists and bureaucrats are wrong?
They´ve been wrong before you know.
There was a time in the not too far distant past when the British government insisted there was no connection between cattle with Mad Cow Disease (BSE) and Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease (CJD). But after much research, politicking, media scrutiny, and arm twisting, British government officials were later forced to admit that it was indeed possible to contract CJD by eating infected beef. So why should we believe these same people now when they were wrong before? Suppose most of everything the scientists have told us about BSE is wrong?
The accepted theory is that Mad Cow Disease is caused by a transmissible protein called a prion (pronounced "pree-on") that makes normal cells mutate, thus creating holes in the brain. It´s a relatively new theory as medicine goes, and we should stress, that´s all it is . . . a theory. The results of the brain-wasting disease are NOT theoretical however. CJD and BSE turn the brain into Swiss cheese and the victim into a vegetable. The disease is slow, untreatable, incurable and ALWAYS fatal. Other than those facts everything else we think we know about the disease, according to one intelligent, courageous organic farmer in England, could prove to be incorrect.
To outdoor sports enthusiasts the name "Purdey" is synonymous with fine shotguns. A descendant of those gun makers has been trying to shoot down conventional wisdom regarding Mad Cow Disease for over sixteen years. Once upon a time in Britain, Mark Purdey was considered a "nutter," a whacko. But not any more, as more and more scientists are beginning to take the man seriously.
BSE was first detected in Britain in 1986. At the time Purdey was an organic dairyman with a 60 head cow herd. Up until that time Mark Purdey was known mostly for refusing government orders to treat his 60 cows with an organophosphate called "Phosmet." Purdey went to court with the Agriculture Ministry of Britain because he and other British organic farmers did not want to be forced to pour a systemic organophosphate, derived from military nerve gas, along the spine of their cattle in the early 1980´s to kill the warble fly.
"Like most things the idea that a chemical was behind the brain wasting disease in cattle and humans was instinct," Purdey was quoted by Reuters. "Being a farmer, I was horrified when I was approached by a ministry official to treat a cow for warble fly by pouring this chemical along the spinal cord and the base of the head. It was an oil designed to seep through the skin and to change the entire internal environment of the cow into a poisonous medium to kill off the parasite."
Purdey contends there has never been a confirmed case of Mad Cow Disease among any of the organically raised cattle that were NOT treated with Phosmet in Britain! Even though the organic animals had been fed the same meat and bone meal that was supposed to be the causative agent of BSE. On all the other cattle in thirty UK counties the organophosphate was used, and used heavily. Yes, Phosmet had been used before around the world, including the US, but never at the extremely high dose levels being used in Britain.
To prove his theory that meat and bone meal did not CAUSE Mad Cow Disease, Purdey was forced to become a self-trained scientist. He began by asking simple questions. Questions that had never been satisfactorily answered by existing science. (Keep in mind this was over fifteen years ago).
"At the time meat and bone meal had been sold all over the world," says Purdey. "If you´re blaming this stuff and your sending it all over the world, why aren´t you getting more BSE?" he asked himself. Purdey´s answer: There had to be a missing part of the equation.
Prions, the brain proteins whose mutation seems to be responsible for BSE, protect the brain from the oxidizing properties of chemicals activated by agents such as ultraviolet light. The conclusion that Purdey eventually came to is that prion proteins mutate when they are exposed to too little copper and too much manganese. It just so happens that Phosmet captures copper, making it unavailable for the prions to normally bind to it. Filling copper´s void was manganese. When this happened, according to Purdey, the protein became distorted, lost their function in the brain and presto...Swiss cheese. Furthermore, at the same time that Phosmet was mandatorily being given to British cattle it was also a widespread practice to supplement the cattle with chicken manure, from birds dosed with manganese to increase their egg yields. Thus, the prion proteins in the cow´s brains were being deprived of copper and doubly dosed with manganese at the same time.
If true, Purdey´s theory would answer a few troubling questions. Such as...
Why does Britain have the most cases of BSE? Because Phosmet was used almost exclusively there in such large doses.
What causes the brain lesions? Organophosphate have been proven in the lab to be toxic to the brain and capable of causing Mad Cow like lesions on human brains. Purdey disputes the claim that BSE is passed to humans via infected beef. "If it was to do with eating beef we´d have lots of cases in towns where most burger bars are, but 60% of cases are in rural areas." What happens in rural areas that does not take place in cities? "Most victims live by fields where crops are sprayed," says Purdey. And sometimes the fields were sprayed with organophosphates.
To test his theory, Purdey has traveled to the US, Slovakia, Italy and even Iceland to see if he could find a common denominator. He did. What Purdey theorized over a decade ago has now been supported by laboratory tests conducted by David Brown, a neurobiologist at Cambridge University. Late last year his team discovered that when copper was substituted by manganese on prion proteins, the prions adopted precisely the distinguishing features which identify the infective agent in BSE.
When Purdey looked at the distribution in Britain of the human form of the disease he again found a common thread. There were basically two primary clusters of people who had died from BSE, one in Kent in the middle of a fruit and hop growing area where huge quantities of both organic phosphates and manganese-based fungicides were used. The other was an area in Leicestshire, whose dyeworks, Purdey alleges, used to dump residues into the sewage system. The sewage from the dyeworks was then spread over the fields. Manganese was a common ingredient in the dyes and manganese based organophosphates were also sprayed on crops in the area.
As mentioned, Purdey also traveled to the United States. Why here, after all, we have never had a case of BSE? But a similar spongiform disease was first found in deer at Colorado State University in Fort Collins in 1969. Since then the disease has been found among deer and elk up and down the Front Range. (See February Field and Stream for an interesting article). How were the deer catching the BSE-like disease? After all, they were not being fed meat and bone meal.
Purdey found a high level of selenium fallout in the area due to the presence of three cement factories. He also discovered concentrations of selenium in the soil and plants which concentrated it in their leaves and stems, which were then eaten by the deer. Purdey was told that organophosphate pesticides had been commonly sprayed on alfalfa in the area. Farmers said that it had been a common sight to see deer in the alfalfa fields eating the alfalfa after it had been sprayed with organophosphates.
Purdey also found that trout in the region suffer from a similar brain-wasting disease known as "whirling disease." Could it be from digesting too much organophosphate that entered the area´s streams as runoff?
Purdey´s theory is gaining more and more acceptance as illustrated by a November, 2000 article by George Monbiot in the highly regarded Guardian publication. Wrote Monbiot, "The most interesting aspect of France´s BSE scandal is that it makes no sense at all. Britain stopped exporting contaminated cattle feed to Europe in 1991 though we continued sending it to the third world until 1996. In most other EU countries cases have already peaked and declined as expected. But in France the number of infected animals has doubled in the last year. It is impossible to see how this pattern could result from the export of British bone meal."
In France the use of Phosmet first became mandatory in the region known as Brittany. Twenty of the country´s initial 28 cases of BSE emerged there, according to Purdey. BSE´s subsequent spread in France mirrors the use of the use of Phosmet.
"The simple fact is," wrote Monbiot, "that the transmission of BSE has never been satisfactorily explained by the prevailing theory. The consumption of meat and bone meal from infected cows has doubtless had an important role to play. Yet this explanation alone fails to account for the huge numbers of cattle in Britain which continue to become infected after most contaminated feed had been removed from the food chain. The latest research on human form of disease (published in October) failed to find any link with the consumption of infected beef," wrote Monbiot.
It´s hard for the British government, drug or chemical companies to paint Purdey as a numskull when his articles keep ending up in highly respected scientific journals. Purdey wrote five years ago in Med-Hypotheses about the flaws in Britain´s official hypothesis that BSE originated from alterations in the way that cattle feeds were manufactured in the UK. Instead, he proposed that exposure of the bovine embryo to high doses of organophosphates, like Phosmet, was the primary trigger that initiated the deformation of prion proteins and the onset of the BSE epidemic.
All of Purdey´s writings that this editor has read are filled with uncommon common sense. Such as: "If a cow had lead encephalopathy and a human had it too, you wouldn´t think the human had eaten the cow in order to get the disease. You would assume that both human and a cow had eaten lead based paint or some other common source of lead," says Purdey. "If you inject any malformed protein into a healthy animal that will induce a malformed prion. You can inject Alzheimer´s into someone and get the same thing, but no one thinks we´ve eaten something in order to get Alzheimer´s."
Response to Purdey initially was predictable by the men "in bow ties", as Purdey refers to them. The British government attacked his theory, he was misquoted and physically attacked. According to the Guardian, Purdey has been shot at, his phone lines have been cut and his house was burnt to the ground.
"My feeling," wrote Purdey, "is it´s a political game. Animal Health in Edinburgh and the Imperial College School of Medicine at St. Mary´s in London, they´re all really under the British government´s thumb. None of them are independent. Research may be genuine, but the interpretations political. Scientists know that if they go against the government or multinational corporations, they will lose their job or your funding. It´s a terrible situation in the UK." Monbiot agrees: "The ministry of Agriculture for 50 years has enjoyed a dangerously close relationship with the chemical industry, and has repeatedly sought to discredit him (Purdey)."
Purdey thinks the reason is obvious why folks went to such lengths to censure him: "No one is prepared to admit it because it would involve massive compensation. By keeping the casual agent as something mystified, no one is to blame."
Slowly, however, the British government is coming around, even indicating it may help finance Purdey´s research which, until now, has been financed out of his own pocket. But even now the British government is not helping for the right reasons. According to Monbiot, "The families of French victims are threatening to sue the British government, and it desperately needs an alternative transmission theory."
The shot fired by Purdey is now spreading like buckshot. "With funding on its way and new evidence accumulating every month," wrote Monbiot, "a self educated Somerset dairy farmer could be about to overturn the entire body of scientific research on the biggest public health scandal of modern times."
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Fever remains the most common concern for which parents bring their child to the emergency department. Fever has traditionally been defined as a rectal temperature over 100.4 F or 38.0 C. Temperatures measured at other sites are usually lower. The threshold for defining a fever does vary significantly between different individuals, since body temperatures can vary by as much as 1 F.
Fever itself is not life-threatening unless it is extremely and persistently high, such as greater than 107 F (41.6 C) when measured rectally. Fever may indicate the presence of a serious illness, but usually a fever is caused by common infections which are not serious. The part of the brain called the hypothalamus controls body temperature. The hypothalamus increases the body's temperature as a way to fight the infection. However, many conditions other than infections may cause a fever.
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