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Can I lock my nano onto the clock screen? That would make the watch band a perfect display on my wrist.
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If you are asking the question that I was trying to find you may be wanting to make the iPod wake into the clock face. I saw someone mentioned that this is possible (gotta love forums where someone points out it is possible, but makes no attempt to mention how) so I thought I would post to clarify.
A) There currently is no way to lock your iPod clock into an on position so your watch is visible at all time.
B) If you are wanting to make it so the watch is 'locked' to be the first screen when waking the iPod you would go to Settings, then General, then Date & Time. Scroll down to Time on Wake and flip the switch to the ON position.
- Answered by Benjamin U from Chandler
I was just messing with my nano trying to find a solution to this particular problem. Somehow I stumbled upon this quick fix to the issue. I applied the settings above before hand and still ended up with the same results. So I kept working with the iPod and here is the solution. Instead of going to the clock menu opening it and then locking the iPod (which will open up to your music menu). Go to the Grey music menu and open it then lock the iPod. (Which will open up to your watch face).
- Answered by Levi H from Fort Worth
Currently, there is no function to disable sleep mode. It will dim after 20 seconds and turn off after 40 seconds. Hopefully there will be an update soon to be able to lock it into clock mode. The reason for this is to preserve battery life.
- Answered by Cameron M from Lawrenceville
What u can do is go to clock swipe left and start the "stop watch" swipe back to clock and now with the stop watch running in the back ground the clock will remain locked for about 10 mins straight before the screen goes to sleep.
to save battery go to settings and turn the brightness to minimum.
dont forget to touch and hold for 3 sec on any app screen to kill all other apps or the music app will keep returning back to home screen.
this may be the only solution to keep the clock locked at the moment.
- Answered by Khurram S
Inside the settings, there is an option to load up the clock screen every time you wake the iPod. If you are using it as a watch, most people would do that anyway.
But reading the other answers, there is no way right now to lock the screen to stay on permanently to the clock screen, and never turn off. Unless... you tap the screen every ten seconds or so and then it won't go back to sleep mode.
- Answered by Cameron B from Usher
If you want the Clock to show up when you wake your 6G NANO, 1) tap and hold screen for 3 seconds causing the apps to shake, 2) move the clock to the first position on the Home Screen (all the way to the left), 3) then press and hold the screen to stop the shaking of the apps. there you go, when you press the wake button, the clock shows up.
- Answered by William O from Fpo
There might not be a way to keep your nano from sleeping but there is certainly a way to extend the time before it sleeps through these simple steps:
1. From the Clock screen, swipe to the left to go to the Timer
2. Start the Timer
3. Go back to the Clock screen by swiping to the right
This will keep your nano awake for about 5 to 6 minutes. I have tried this on my nano v1.2 and it works just fine. Battery, though, might not last you a long time. ;)
- Answered by Aaron Luigi L from Caloocan City
Yes you can- but it will still turn itself off after 20 seconds and then dim for about the same amount of time to save the battery.
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In our first Aerodynamics post of the year (and more importantly of the competition year) it is time to shed some light on the 'special testing' Aleksi alluded to in his last post. One of our major supporters, Airbus, granted us some testing time at their wind tunnel facility in Filton, Bristol. Testing EVA in her full scale glory was an incredibly exciting start to term and presented an opportunity for the aero team to gain some invaluable experience.
On Wednesday the team had the pleasure of hosting a group of solar car enthusiasts from Hertfordshire. The group has been looking at starting their own team in the UK with the help of their lecturers. The team got in touch with us and we gladly agreed to host them on a visit for a few hours as we want to promote student engineering and solar car development in the UK.
I think the time has come for me to kick off the new year with a blog post about my recent visit to our fellow solar car projects in the United States. The whole team has had a solid rest over the holidays and we are now back and ready to get to work. The term has literally just started, most of us are getting on top of our course work and the solar car has already gone away for some special testing - more on that in future blog posts. For now the stage is mine, ha!
I set to drive to Birmingham once again to publicly showcase our newest solar car EVA for the first time! We were invited to the Composites Engineeing Show by Mouldlife and Group Gazechim to demonstrate the cool things you can build from composites. Arriving just before 5pm there wasn't a huge hassle with vehicles trying to get in the area and thus the whole offloading and setting the car up went very smoothly!
On Saturday 25th October 2014, we held our One Year To Go (OYTG) event which marked a year until our participation in the 2015 World Solar Challenge. Held at the Marshall Headquarters in Cambridge, the OYTG event was also a chance for CUER's sponsors, supporters, alumni and current members to gather for the unveiling of our 2014 car, EVA.
Week 4 started with much of the team heading off to the National Composite Centre in Bristol to start laying up the carbon fibre for the 2014 car. Because of the mass evacuation to Bristol, the office was quite empty for much of the week, making our mandatory 3:30pm game of ninja much less exciting!
Last week saw the official beginning of the Summer Design Team. The week was spent learning all about the world of solar racing and CUER, so that the team would be up to speed and ready to start their own projects with confidence. The first few days were spent talking to established team members and watching documentaries that covered the key principles of solar racing.
It's been a busy few days for CUER but we're now settled in at the NEC in Birmingham and having a great time. We first arrived on Monday night and moved Resolution into our exhibition space before checking into our accommodation to get some rest before the show opened the next day. Tuesday was press day, we met lots of interesting people and presented our car to the visitors in the Innovation Theatre. Wednesday was then the first day the show was open to the public and it has been very busy but wonderful to see so many interested people of all ages keen to hear about our project!


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Yes, I AM showing my mantel AGAIN! This is the way it looked last week. A lot of you bloggers have been posting these great beach-themed vignettes, so I thought I'd try one on the mantel for a summertime look.
The problem is that I went from all of the patriotic colors to kind of a white beach look, and I'm having a little trouble adjusting to the lack of color. (And I'm always thinking I want the all white Shabby Chic look!)
I hope you have time to sit down and join me for a cup of tea and a little chat. Don't ya just love when I start chatting on my blog? I am able to monopolize the conversation until you get to the "comment" section. It's a dream come true for a
blabbermouth conversationalist like me! I'd like to talk for a minute about Blog Frog. Months ago, I saw something on another blog about it, so I went over and signed up. I started getting these "BFF" emails, and I didn't know what to do with them! So, if I ignored your BFF email, I want to let you know that it was not intentional. I just don't have any idea what I'm doing! I apologize, and I hope you'll give me another chance (although I haven't done anything on Blog Frog, I don't want to turn down a chance to have a new Blog Frog Friend.)
I really don't understand what BF is all about, but I'm kind of a "joiner", so I did put that BF "recent visitors" box on my blog. I'm assuming that it is just like a site meter, which does not necessarily show that a particular blogger has visited my blog, but rather that someone clicked to my blog from another blog. I KNOW some of these bloggers are not visiting my blog several times a day! (My posts are usually not interesting enough to visit once, much less several times!)
If you have been coming to my blog for very long, you know that my self-confidence level is lacking (I know -- That's an understatement!). I had to take site meter off my blog, because I was constantly worrying about all of those people who came to my blog and found nothing worthy of a comment, so I'll probably be removing the BF recent visitors box as well.
Did you notice your tea cup and saucer? I got the last two of those at T. J. Maxx recently (on the sale aisle, of course). Another thing I want to chat about is my criminal activity (as confessed on my previous post). I just want to explain that I would understand and immediately remove a photo if a blogger did not want it posted on my blog. I will not be offended if a blogger emails me and asks me to remove their photo from my blog. Unfortunately, I am one of those people who works better under pressure. I do not pre-schedule posts (I'm doing well to get a post done in time for a Blogville event.) When I prepare a Favorite Things Saturday post, I don't have time to email each person whose photo I am
stealing borrowing and hear back from them before I need to get my post done. So please, email me if you find your photo on my blog and you want it taken off.
I have to issue an apology now. I feel absolutely terrible, but I ordered this cute banner from a blogger (apparently not from an Etsy, since I've gone back to check my Etsy orders), and I cannot remember which blogger it was! Yikes! I'm afraid I'm not having senior moments – I used to have those, but now I'm afraid I'm senile! I do know that the beach picnic bookmark was from Fifi Flowers Designs (Maybe I'll remember who made the banner before I finish this post!) If you made this darling banner, please let me know, so I can credit you with it, and please forgive my senility!
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And don't forget the parties! Friday is the Summer Cloche Party at A Stroll Thru Life, and Friday and Saturday is the Ice Cream Social at Kitchen Bouquet. Social calendars are filling up all over Blogville this week!
This post is kind of full of blog buttons (I know, it's full of chatter too). The first time I posted photos from other blogs for a Favorite Things Saturday event, Kathleen at Cuisine Kathleen suggested that I make an "I've been featured" button. Since I didn't think being featured on my little blog gave anybody any bragging rights, I didn't make a button. However, I did decide that if I "borrowed" one of your photos, you should have bragging rights because you didn't report me to the Blogville Police (do you Google "9-1-1" to report a Blogville crime?)
So, if I have "borrowed" one of your photos for a Favorite Things post, please feel free to post this button on your blog. If you click on this button on my blog, you will see a list of the blogs from which I have "borrowed".
I apologize for the long post. I do have to live up to the name of my blog by occasionally doing some chatting. I hope it doesn't keep you from visiting my blog again. Normally, I don't monopolize the conversation like I did today. (My husband would probably disagree with that statement.) Thank you so much for stopping by my blog and for putting up with my chatter. laurie


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Remember back in the olden days of February or maybe even on Saturday, when the Jackets were able to complete passes and put the puck on the net? Those were the days, weren't they?
Apparently the epic Supermoon event sapped them of their ability to operate as functional professional hockey players. Did they do anything right in this game? They didn't get a shot on goal until late in the first period. Thirteen total? Did they forget this was Martin Brodeur and he's, you know, kind of good?
And maybe it's just the Dispatch wanting to stir up some unneeded controversy, but a quote by Steve Mason after Sunday's loss has supposedly rung the wrong bells with the coaching staff:
"It's a crappy feeling and an embarrassing effort tonight," he said after the club was shut out for the second straight time on home ice. "It's frustrating. We just couldn't generate anything in their zone. For a team that is looking for a playoff spot right now, the effort we put forth isn't acceptable."
Is the truth so bad? The majority here seems to think Mason was right, and fair in making those comments. It doesn't come across as Mason holding himself in any higher regard than his teammates – just simply stating that as a team, they were bad. And we all agree.
They leave today for Colorado, sans Grant Clitsome (knee) and with Anton Stralman, according to the boys at the Dispatch. Colorado is on a slide – having won less than a handful of times over the last 60 days – but topped Edmonton in the shootout on Saturday. Don't let them know that Colorado's struggling. We all know how they act when they think they're the better team. Make sure to check in with Katie at Hockey Without Oxygen for an Avs side of tomorrow's bout.


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INDIANAPOLIS There is no event more exhausting to cover than the NFL Combine.
And only part of the reason is that the best information flows well after dark (and into early morning) in the Circle City dining and drinking establishments. I don't very often compare myself to someone who has a real job, but I deserve hazard pay for the hours put in pursuing information here.
Among the tidbits gathered over the days and nights trolling this frigid burg was a topic first brought up by agents and coaches in casual conversation and then something I broached with various folks – how in one specific way the Chargers will have to draft with a different philosophy if they are going to make a quick turnaround under Tom Telesco and Mike McCoy.
Actually, there was a surprising amount of praise for the Chargers' drafts the past two years. The big criticism -- both internally and from outside – is how the Chargers have let so many good players go.
But the fact is that the team under A.J. Smith for several years drafted a disproportionate number of players that were projects.
Where early in his tenure Smith found guys (Jeromey Clary, Shaun Phillips) who contributed relatively quickly in the mid-to-late rounds, more recently his early-round reaches have been guys (Larry English, Jonas Mouton) most everyone, including Smith, knew were going to take time to make the NFL leap.
In a video interview here this week, the U-T's Annie Heilbrunn challenged Chargers Vice President of Football Operations John Spanos on the topic, asking if the philosophy has changed and it will no longer be acceptable to walk away from the draft having sacrificed an immediate need for a bet on the future.
"You could say maybe it's shifted a little," Spanos said.
It better.
Word is, based on conversations with people around the league, it didn't take long for the new Chargers offensive assistants to realize the talent level is lacking, especially on the line. In fact, they were described to me as almost incredulous the Chargers even won seven games in 2012.
Anyway, here are a few more extremely scattered thoughts after six days (and nights) in the center of the NFL universe:
• The Chargers appear to, indeed, be saving up for a remodel on the offensive line. It is unclear if that means buying one of the top left tackles and/or re-signing unrestricted free agent guard Louis Vasquez. But based on their conversations with several agents, the line is where they will spend the bulk of their money.
• The Chargers will have familiar competition for Vasquez. The Indianapolis Colts, whose new personnel director is the Chargers' former personnel director, will make a run at Vasquez. Conversely, the Chargers, whose new general manager is the Colts' former personnel director, look to be considering a run at Colts unrestricted free agent cornerback Jerraud Powers.
• What Vasquez and cornerback Antoine Cason, the Chargers' other big unrestricted free agent, can get is debatable. Besides the vetting of draft hopefuls inside Lucas Oil Stadium, the real action here is unofficial discussions between teams and player agents. There is a glut of veteran cornerbacks and veteran guards on the market. Obviously, that works to the teams' benefit.


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Jay L Swan
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hybrid endurance training
So my dirty little secret (and I'm letting it out on my third post) is that I'm sort of an endurance athlete.
For most of my life, my athletic endeavors revolved entirely around martial arts. I didn't do much dedicated S&C until the early-to-mid-90s, and for a few years it consisted mostly of sporadic hill running and bodybuilding-type weight training that I picked up from friends. In the late 90s I started reading T-Nation (then Testosterone) and started focusing on multi-joint exercises. In 2000 I moved to Colorado and wanted to see the backcountry, but I didn't have time for backpacking trips.
This got me interested in LSD trail running. This started in 2001/2002, and by 2005 I had worked up to a 50-mile trail race. Everything I did was on trails, usually with several thousand feet of climb, at altitude. I think I became aware of CrossFit in 2003 or 2004, and played with it on and off for quite a while.
After the 50-mile trail race, I was dissatisfied with how weak I'd gotten. It was also around this time that I discovered Gym Jones. I started messing around with doing high-intensity circuits during the week, and long run/hikes on the weekends. This worked quite well.
Last year I was continuing with this program until I got injured (one injury from starting martial arts again, the other from standing in tight rock shoes for too long). Right now my running is limited to the 6-10 mile range, so I'm focusing on increasing speed at shorter distances, and on getting stronger. The current program looks like this:
Monday - strength (weighted pullups and squats)
Tuesday - 5.5 mile run with intervals according to feel
Wed - met con circuit
Thurs - strength (weighted dips or floor press and squats)
Fri/Sat/Sun - rest, met con, or run/hike, depending on family obligations
I'm mainly posting this to see if there are any other endurance-ish athletes out there who do similar types of work. I am simultaneously sympathetic to and mystified by the anti-endurance meme. If I lived in the city I would never run--excruciatingly boring. But living in the mountains, I can't see how anybody doesn't want to run the trails.
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Mike ODonnell
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Originally Posted by
Jay L Swan
So my dirty little secret (and I'm letting it out on my third post) is that I'm sort of an endurance athlete.
Please leave.
Ok....just kidding of course. Wow....I get tired driving 50miles. That's great that you have learned to bring in the strength component so many neglect. While endurance running for me is more 5-10ks....I hear you on the "running in the mountains", that is just a different experience all in itself....even if my runs are quite a bit shorter. (my knees can't handle anything more after 30+ years of hockey destruction) But that's why I got the mountain bike! 8hr adventure races a couple times a year is about as endurance as I get. I am sure if I ever lived in the mountains I would probably do more on the weekends.
Although you may not find a ton of endurance people on here, you will find people who will give you sound advice on training. They know their *#^& around here as the kids like to say.
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I'm with you on the anti-endurance theme. I get it and I don't.
I have no desire to pound the streets in pursuit of a marathon dream but 15 miles of trails on foot or 30 miles on a mountain bike pushes my buttons.
I know sprints sort you out but I disliked them when I played rugby and I dislike them now. I enjoy my weights, I enjoy my running, I enjoy my cycling. Perhaps I don't get the best results because of the methods I combine but I do get the fun that I need to escape work, commuting on a cattle truck like train, all the other **** in life.
I think runners need to be more open to ideas outside running and those outside running shouldn't be so judgemental of something they are not that fond of themselves.
Also I feel many people who come to CrossFit should assess their goals because you do hear a lot complain about the lack of running or the fact that their distance times decrease. Do they want a superb system for GPP or do they want to continue with something they really enjoy? I don't see why the Black Box need be exclusive to strength development. Or take in some of the methods used by Eugene Allen (
) or even, heaven forbid those rebel scum over at Gym Jones.
Out of interest, on a 50 mile trail, are you running constantly or running/marching as you would do in a multi-day event like the Marathon de Sables?
Having set myself up as some kind of rugby guru and made Shaf think about dusting off his boots I've now blown my cover.
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Originally Posted by
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I am simultaneously sympathetic to and mystified by the anti-endurance meme. If I lived in the city I would never run--excruciatingly boring. But living in the mountains, I can't see how anybody doesn't want to run the trails.
For me I put it this way, I don't think it is a pure "anti-endurance" theme....although powerlifters will powerlift and runners will run. Most sports are a cross between explosiveness and aerobic capacity. That's not the issue.....for me it's the general press and media giving the impression that doing ONLY endurance related activities is the holy grail of health and fitness. When I believe that fact is utterly wrong and possibly the complete opposite as that attitude alone is doing more harm than good for the general public.
"Lower intensity aerobic training is relatively useless for optimal fat loss purposes. Furthermore, for some populations, it's likely to be detrimental."
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I enjoy lifting weights, sprints and a good long mountain bike ride....basically a balance of everything. I don't believe there will ever just be one right way for anything, life is more complex and smarter than we think we are.
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Jay L Swan
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I agree about the misrepresentation of endurance as the "holy grail". However, I think that the principal harms of endurance training are chiefly in highly competitive, obsessive racers who in a high-volume, high-intensity mode without ever taking significant rest.
There are a few people in the ultrarunning world who have been very consistent in finishing very difficult events on a comparatively low-volume, high-intensity training program. They are still doing long stuff, but instead of doing several long runs a week, they do a very long, very slow effort once every few weeks. They aren't winning any races, but they have a lot of longevity in the sport.
James--I was at the back of the pack in the 50. I probably walked more than half of it. I twisted an ankle around mile 35 and walked almost all of the last 12 miles or so.
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I agree about the misrepresentation of endurance as the "holy grail". However, I think that the principal harms of endurance training are chiefly in highly competitive, obsessive racers who in a high-volume, high-intensity mode without ever taking significant rest.
Boom. You hit it.
Some smart guy said, "All training is complimentary" I would add, "All training is complimentary, some training is more complimentary that others"
I get mildly bewildered and annoyed at the rampant anti endurance vibe, because the reality is, people are reacting to a cultural indoctrination not the actual sport. I read recently someone bashing running, based on the observation that most recreational runners are fat slobs and most elite runners are pale wisps. I'm sorry but that is like bashing power lifting based on the bench club mullet fest that happen M/W/F in the average commercial gym. Those guys are no more power athletes than the parade of folks who sign up to run/walk a 5k.
Second weird vibe is the constant question of what form of training is most natural. Will these sprints plus adn all animal brain diet make me a better, more complete paleo humanoid?
Who the f&*%k cares. Shouldn't it be fun? White teeth and gene expression be damned, sometimes it's just really fun to go really, really fast for a really, really long ways. Kind of like doing a bunch of pullups and thrusters…The fact that it's hard is the fun part. If you don't get that , some of your key genes are not expressing correct. Saavy?
As for competitive strength endurance events, I used to could do that. Had to quit over ruined knees, Wasn't the bike that did it. It was my over application of squats and bike what did it. I have raced alongside some incredibly strong endurance athletes that off the bike were very adept strength athletes as well. I think with thoughtful application, one can be strong (in a power to weight ratio sense) and have great endurance. Maybe not "Elite", maybe not even Category 4, but still you can still have the speed and strength to really enjoy a long slog in the mountains, a good long row or a long hard climb.
Anyway, long diatribe short-
if I haven't done a sport at a competitive level, I wouldn't want to punk myself by bashing that sport at any length. (Other than Ice dancing, which for me is just grating.) Over the last couple years I have rehabbed myself from an under-strong set of arthritic legs with lungs on top, to a mildly capable dabbler in strength training. I have nothing but respect to anyone who will throw their hat into the game,
any game: power lifting event, GS, Mountain bike race, track and field, ultra marathons……whatever,
If you sign up, train and ................show up on the big day. One word.
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Hi jay,
I've been doing a mix of weights and endurance work (more endurance than weights) for the last 9 years. I was looking at your schedule and it looks pretty tough to me I guess you know your own body better than I do but I know that I would run out of gas after about 3 weeks of trying to keep up with that monkey business. I notice that your training your legs almost every day (not neccesarily a bad thing) but you only do dips once and chinups once a week? That's a fairly sport specific program (also not a bad thing).
If I were you I would try to reduce the number of intense workouts to about three per week. I dont know how intense your strength workouts are but I would consider breaking them into one day 5X5 (squat, shoulder, press DL, big stuff like that) black box style with a minimal cardio component, and one day with a Fran, Diane, Grace, or Elizabeth style workout where you have a large strength component and a huge cardio componet in a short amount of time.
After that I would say only one longer Met con Cindy, or Chelsea type work out *or* a sprint/interval work out. After that I would add in LSD running or hiking or swiming or whatever floats your boat.
I would also suggest that the 5x5 day should come after a bit of a rest and not right after a metcon day so you can give it a solid effort.
The other thing you should think about is how you want your workout to look on a monthly and seasonal scale. for monthly example you could do hard week, harder week, hardest week, easy week. As for seasonal it's best if you take a lood at stuff written by Joe Friel or Tudor Bompa. Hope that helps
Oh yeah try to break up the LSD workouts into either recovery workouts or easy conditioning workouts. If you feel beat down do a recovery workout if you feel great do a conditioning workout. If you really want to get scientific about it go to
take a look at their forum, and pick up a blood lactate monitor. Those guys are bleeding edge in the world of endurance sports.
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Jeremy Jones
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Wow. Dave busted out the "Saavy?"
ARRRRR Matey!
I love pirate words. I liked the rest of your post too (saavy or no).
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Jay L Swan
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I thought I'd follow up on this with my "progress" in this hybrid endurance thing. I haven't been able to follow the schedule I posted originally to any great degree. Over the last 3-4 months, though, I've done the following:
-About 2 runs per week in the 4-6 mile range, occasionally just one
-One lower body strength-focus day per week: usually front or back squats, occasionally power cleans or deadlifts
-A lot of KBs and metcon circuits: some common themes are variations on Dan John's "Big Five 55", lots of stuff involving KB swings, KB C&Js, weighted pullups, weighted dips, some rower sprints. I have been focusing more on trying add weight in the circuits rather than dive deeper into cardio hell.
-3 runs in the two hour range
-1 run/hike in the 5+ hour range that felt very good and was a decent time (for me) for the distance/elevation.
During this time I hit a PR in the deadlift (275), a PR in the weighted pullup (+105), and tied an old PR in the power clean (155). My bodyweight fluctuated between 150 and 155 at about 5'10".
My conclusion based on the 5+ hour effort is that it is possible to do relatively little endurance work and still feel good on long efforts, as long as that long effort happens occasionally; I think the occasional two-hour runs really helped my base.
I'm going to cycle in sprints (done in the form of Litvinovs) and try to do one long effort every 2-3 weeks for the rest of the summer and see what happens.
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Checking processes is going to be hard my dad isn't that great wth a computer unless i get him to install teamviwer and i try ad do it my end but with his mac i would be lost.
There is a lot of monitoring software out there typically used by schools / businesses.... but you can typically see the process running and usually can't kill it... so any process you can't kill should be a good place to start. Once i identified such a process I would Google it for more info.
Budman, i dont see how your response helps one bit but to answer your query and to waste both our times i shall respond...
"The guy is nosy and will find out things that he really should not know and has been caught out a few times,"
Then why and the F would you give him your computer? I am at a complete loss to why you would let someone have access to your machine that you did not trust?? If you do not trust him, then WIPE the machine and get someone you trust or do it yourself.
So just because you run software X and it does not find something, does not mean its clean.. Even if you ran software Y, and Z as well - you still could not be 100% sure, etc.
If your concerned that this computer guy installed something - for peace of mind, I would wipe it and find a guy you trust.
Yes i use teamviewer myself and i am asked to type in the other persons ID and Pass which changes every run of the program what he was describing was the darker side of just getting what he wanted.
If it is a legit software like teamviewer or logmein then no antimalware solution will pick it up. There are more than just those two, a lot more, I am just using them as an example of well known remote utilities. Most legit softwares have a icon in the taskbar or information area by the time, there are quite a few that do not. You will see most legit softwares put a uninstall option in add/remove programs or the program manager is they do an install, there are some that do not install anything or are ran via java script and there are no install traces. The ones that do not install are single use and need to run again when someone needs access. Any respectable person or company will use legit software to assist users.
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