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- Ang Perrier
- Stacy, MN
- United States
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How does gender affect formulation of opinion based on perception?
I'd like to kick-start this debate by asking for each person responding, to please describe their personal opinion of their ideal; a) Husband/boyfriend b) Wife/girlfriend.
I'm adding onto this now...
How different do you perceive males and females to be?
Are these differences something that can be phased out through gender neutralizing environments or are they engrained in our nature as a permanent fixture?
If there's a possibility of phasing out the differences would you choose to?
If there's not how do we address our Politically Correct world where we avoid any recognition of differences between genders?
The focus here is on the mental, emotional, and developmental differences, not so much the physical.
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Overall it seems as though we are able to accept and recognize that there are differences between males and females. What we are not ready to accept and recognize is that there are differences in the way we learn that should be addressed in early childhood development.
This doesn't mean the end result has to change as far as career capabilities. It means that we need to cater to these developmental differences and teach our boys the way they learn best and teach our girls the way they learn best in order for them to have the opportunity to achieve their desired goals in life.
Right now our education system is failing both genders equally and that is unfortunate. We can say that it's because we don't spend enough money on schooling, or we don't address the specific needs of each individual child. But I think that a reasonable attempt at adapting a school curriculum which incorporates certain gender differences into the lesson plan has proven to be effective and ought to be adopted by more schools and made available to anyone who thinks that their child would benefit from it.
I DO NOT mean that girls should be taught Home Ec. and boys should be taught Shop Class. I'm implying that girls and boys learn subjects such as math and science easier in 2 very different ways. Why not structure a class that is designed to teach girls/boys math the way their brains understand it best? It's not harmful for our society to look at what science can teach us about the brain and use that information in the most effective way possible.
I'd like to take this time to advocate to any parent out there reading this to do some research and decide for yourself if gender specific lesson plans could be a benefit for your child.
Start with Leonard Sax's book "Why Gender Matters" and see if you find yourself agreeing with the statements and research he's done over the past 25 years.
Apr 23 2014: Dynamism and energy in all things, as a general principle, derive from the existence of difference - not what we are led to believe as the holy grail of neutrality or equality.
The modern clamour for gender equality will only end in grey sameness and the end of all that is beautiful and stimulating. It is the sparkling vibrance of opposites that keeps us energised and attracted to each other.
'Phasing out gender differences' really is the stuff of nightmares for many including me, and the very suggestion of 'avoiding any recognition of difference between genders' is political correctness gone completely mad.
What's missing in this patriarchal society, is empathy and respect for our opposites. In a matriarchy, I think there would be considerably more acceptance of such essential differences. The scourge of sexism and misogyny is possibly more a symptom, rather than a cause.
My ideal wife is the one I have right now. She is my opposite, and would hate her to feel as though she had to be a clone, or be the equal, of me - or me to be a clone of her.
Apr 24 2014: How do we progress towards a society that acknowledges and accepts the differences, accounts for them in a way both parties can live with, and reduce violence?
Apr 24 2014: I wish I had the definitive answer to those questions, but what I can say with some degree of certainty is that the answer does not lie in equality. Equilibrium, which is equality's aim, is counter to the defined sexuality of male and female, and thus the perpetuation of species.
Equality may feel politically correct in the skewed society we have created for ourselves, but it is biologically (and I would go so far as to say universally) impotent.
A world where women have to effectively become men in order to compete in a society created largely BY men, is ostensibly civilisation in reverse. The age of enlightenment, where certainty, competitiveness and reductionism is desirable, is an era predominantly reflecting male characteristics.
A competitive society fueled by testosterone (as is currently the case), is less likely to accommodate a tolerance of 'difference', because it negatively seeks to distance one from the other, forming elites, severing lines of communication and empathy with all who proclaim or show signs of difference.
A matriarchy on the other hand might seek the opposite - especially in a positive acceptance of the difference between male and female.
As with all movements and 'eras', I think it will just be a matter of time - a time during which a slow realisation will take place that the philosophies of the current era are becoming less fit for humanity's current purpose.
The signs are that such a change is taking place right now.
Apr 25 2014: Equilibrium...good word to use, I like it :)
"A world where women have to effectively become men in order to compete in a society created largely BY men"
For me this statement has a direct correlation to politics.
Vera Nova
Apr 19 2014: Pleasure for one hour, a bottle of wine. Pleasure for one year a marriage; but pleasure for a lifetime, a garden.
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chinese proverb
Ang Perrier
Apr 21 2014: Thankfully it's nice enough outside to get the ball rolling on mine this year. Can't wait!!! :)
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Apr 21 2014: Cheers!Apr 21 2014: Vera and Ang,
"To plant a garden, is to believe in tomorrow"
I don't know where the quote came from, and I like it:>)
I have been in the gardens all afternoon.....snow is finally melting, and things are popping up....I LOVE it:>)
Vera Nova
Apr 21 2014: I have jasmine and all other bushes and trees blooming, the air is dry and shiny, it feels like I'm surrounded by this heavenly family with fluffy bunnies jumping around (we are next to the green-grassed golf course which is mostly used by bunnies.)
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Apr 22 2014: I'm jealous Vera! The snow just melted here a few days ago, so we only have crocus and daffodils blossoming at this time. Everything else will be coming soon though:>)
Sean Brother
Apr 22 2014: Yes, Colleen, it seems like not only things, but all Life is popping up. To feel Life running and boling everywhere is something great :-)
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Apr 22 2014: I agree Sean....to see and feel new life popping up all around in the spring is GREAT! That is one thing I love about the seasonal changes.
It looks like both genders in this little thread of conversation (Ang, Vera, Sean and Colleen) have the same opinion and perception....I LOVE it:>)Apr 22 2014: "crocus and daffodils blossoming" How much I miss them, dear Colleen !
But cannot live in two places at the same time.. thank you for telling me so I can smell crocus and daffodils from your message.
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Carl Karasti
Apr 16 2014: Inspired by your comment, Carolyn, I'm going to add something here which may just be a re-presentation of part of what you've expressed, but in a rather different way.
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I'm thinking that one very gender-specific role of women in general, although not for some women, is to bring new life into this world; to give birth to those who will perpetuate our species.
The role of a killer is exactly opposite to the role of giving birth.
It seems possible, perhaps even likely, that killing someone would, in general, take some serious provocation and some amount of pre-planning in order to overcome the appreciation for life that might arise through the process of bringing new life into the world. At least for those women who have borne children.Apr 21 2014: I was reading a case about a woman who was married and had 8 children with her husband. After the youngest was old enough to move out of the house the woman murdered her husband. The case didn't go into much detail about her reasoning aside from saying something about outstanding debt and a life insurance policy.
It makes one wonder about the dynamics of the relationship.
Based on speculation only what are your initial thoughts on this Carolyn? Carl?
Carl Karasti
Apr 22 2014: My guess is that the woman was really tired of, uncomfortable with or afraid of who her husband really was (which she discovered only after getting married), or who he had become during their time together. Or perhaps she had been more or less "forced" into marriage, possibly either pre-arranged or he got her pregnant. Anyway, she felt stuck and perhaps threatened and/or abused.
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However, the husband provided material support - house, food, medical - for the children and her, so the woman tolerated the situation as best she could for as long as she had to in order to provide for her children, even if she suffered during all that time. And maybe the children suffered some, too, especially if their father was abusive, emotionally, psychologically, physically, sexually. So this was about survival of her children, whom she birthed, and herself, with the husband coming in last - 10th place.
When the youngest child moved out, the woman figured she could make a go of life on her own without having to put up with her husband anymore, so she got rid of him - with the added benefit of relieving the family of debt and maybe even benefitting from the insurance.
Apparently, however, the woman didn't get away with it. She got caught and may get convicted, even if she might claim she did it "in self-defense," and she'll pay the price of being imprisoned behind bars instead of by an unloving husband. And the children will unfortunately have lost both father and mother.
Apr 22 2014: The problem with our system is that it's never self defense if it's premeditated. Women often feel that there's no other way to defend themselves without plotting and planning.
Despite the fact that there are very few details given we have both come to almost the exact same prediction of what the situation was yet she is serving a life sentence and will probably die in prison.Apr 22 2014: Yeah, so it's premeditated murder to plan to save one's life from murder, whether from a long, slow painful dying, or a sudden death from a knife or bullet.
That's the problem with "justice" according to "the letter of the law." rather than justice according to the guidance of the Heart. One is a mind game that focuses on what's legally deemed to be wrong, the other is based in compassion that arises from what is known to be right.
Apr 22 2014: Due to these issues related to gender does society need to go so far as to provide a different set of rules for 1st degree murder when it is applied to a woman or an additional description of self defense perhaps?
Would society accept that there are differing rules applied when it comes to gender?Apr 22 2014: I don't think "a different set of rules for 1st degree murder when it is applied to a woman" would ever get adopted. There will always be cases in which a woman - especially non-motherly types - would be guilty of pre-meditated murder in the same way as a man would. Nobody would accept a woman's explanations for such cases, so why would they for any cases? Women, after all, do want to be treated equally, do they not? Why should they be treated as more equal regarding murder? (I'm not defending this view, only presenting it for others.)
But there should be room for seriously considering "self defense" in light of extenuating circumstances. The difficulty, however, would definitely be in proving that circumstances were so abusive and threatening as to have a high probability of resulting in death for the woman. The comeback from the prosecution would always be: "If things were so bad, why didn't you just leave him?" "Because it's complicated ..." would not be accepted as a reasonable reason. If it was acceptable, it would already be serving the purpose in such cases.
Apr 24 2014: "Women, after all, do want to be treated equally, do they not?"
Let me ask you this; there's a task where a man and woman each 6'0" tall are being timed running up a flight of stairs. Each stair is 7" in height so that is appox. 1/10 of each of their height that they have to propel their bodies up for each step.
Now you have someone who is 5'4", a height much more common for a woman and a 6'0" person a height much more common for a man competing in the same task. The stairs are closer to 1/8 of the 5'4" person's height. Should the individuals be given 2 different flights of stairs to run up in order to make the task equal? Should the times be adjusted for the 2 different heights? Or should the shorter person train and work much harder to achieve something even close to the same time as the taller person?
How do we determine which of these would be considered equal?Apr 27 2014: This is a task that involves the amount of power required to run up the stairs or, to look at it from a slightly different perspective, the amount of power that is generated in running up the stairs. Power is the rate at which work is done. The power required or generated can be easily calculated, and climbing stairs is an experiment that is commonly done in physics classes. The most significant variable between individuals, however, is body mass rather than height. To calculate power (in watts):
(mass x 9.81 x vertical height) / time = watts
* mass in kilograms
* 9.81 is the gravity factor (acceleration of gravity m/s/s)
* vertical height (total) in meters
Here's one simple description of how to do the experiment:
However, in considering the question of being treated equally, none of this is really relevant. What is most significant is whether or not women are even allowed to do the experiment, rather than being disqualified or ignored simply because they are women. So, the question that's most important in Life is one of recognizing value and validity and of offering opportunity rather than a question of actual physical power, or any other particular attribute.
In reality, if everyone is allowed and encouraged to participate to the best of their ability, it will be found that some women will outperform some men, although it is likely that the most physically powerful man will be more powerful than the most physically powerful woman, yet that depends entirely on the mix of participants. Does that make the women less equal? Yes, when it comes to competing in such an experiment. Does that make the women less valuable? No, not at all, because they may very well be "more powerful" then the men in some other task requiring a different sort of power.
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Apr 9 2014: An "unfair divide" where females are discontented with the layout. "Male privilege" and "accolades of having a female subservient" are very feminine view points. Are you able to remember or pinpoint how you first formed these opinions?
A husband/boyfriend who allows his mate to be a separate person. Based on your observations, do you feel this is a common trait amongst the husbands/boyfriends you've known?Apr 15 2014: What do you perceive would be the reasoning behind females committing murder in the 1st degree more often than the other degrees of murder??Apr 28 2014: Someone who understands emotional correctness and codominance.
Females give birth to babies with spines designed to stand upright and with brains of increased size. Having survived that, they then nurture the child for 25 - 30 years while their larger brain matures. The female endocrine system has evolved to motivate women toward this agonizing, life - threatening, life-long endeavor. After puberty she will look for an attractive male and lure him into mating. After childbirth the hormones change again, focus turns to the child. The young breeding male may now be driven away, in favor of a male more capable, of providing for and nuturing the child. The female driven to and practising the care and training of a child, tends to continue the behavior with the mature child and its father.
Males explore and test themselves. beginning at puberty a male wants to have sex. The male brain reaches maturity around the age of 30. Oxytocin levels vary between individuals, both male and female, however, oxytocin's role in personal bonding has made for a dramatic survival advantage for high levels in females. Oxytocin levels in the male population vary more. Lower oxytocin levels serve a warrior/protector/hunter better, so as not to bond with the enemy. Higher oxytocin levels serve better for the nuturing provider. Thus the male population at one extreme has sociopathic abusive rapists and seemingly effeminant nuturers at the other, with a full range in between. All this behavioral variance in male and female individuals and we've only looked at testosterone, progesterone, estrogen and oxytocin. Now load onto this base, parenting, social, cultural and traditional conditioning and you've got the preconceptive lense through which we perceive.
Apr 29 2014: Do you think it would make sense to conduct research and base our children's early learning in school off of these differences? Create gender specific lesson plans and separate kids to maximize their learning potential?
Apr 30 2014: Yes, and beyond gender specific, individualized. As to separating the kids, only to give each an individual space, but not into groups and not isolated from each other. Each child will progress best by following their own unique line of curiousity, however as is often said, the best way to learn is to teach. As each child follows their own path of enthusiasm, the class can take breaks and share with their friends what they have learned. In this way, each child learns by teaching the topic as well as their enthusiasm for it. Each child has focused learning, which they do not fight or think boring or hard, and they are exposed to numerous topics by their friends and can choose a path of greatest interest. If they wish to gather together to follow a topic they can, and a child can take the lead, or the teacher is available to assist. This format can also be adapted to online learning which can serve to protect the child from physical bullying, or to isolate the bully as punishment for their behavior, without interupting anyone's learning. As learning progresses in specific topics, advanced interest groups can reach out online to topic speciialists. Learning can naturally evolve gender trends without any gender trends being imposed. Online formats also allow for early adaptations for dyslexic / autistic and other special needs learning, while minimizing differences between students.
Amy Winn
Apr 26 2014: Ang, I started with one personal opinion of the ideal man in my life, but have since developed another. I was one of those girls who went after the "bad boys".I have no idea to this day what made me attracted to them, and trust me - I have had many years to think about it.
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In fact when I think about it, in depth, it makes less and less sense each time. Perhaps because I am getting older and realize the time that was lost trying to "fix them". or perhaps because my father was a tyrant and I should have known better from the start. But one thing is clear, and that is I have learned from my mistakes in formatting a preconceived opinion on what the opposite sex should be thinking, doing, saying or feeling. When I finally decided that I can only control myself, and would not let anyone, man or woman control who I was or what I felt, it was then that I met someone that finally accepted me for me.
He is my husband and is so unlike what I ever thought I would want, need or admire in a man. He is calm, caring and is a man of few words, but when he speaks, I know they must mean something. He lets me insist on just the right cantaloupe when we are shopping and never tells me "calm down", or "hurry up". He is reliable, accountable, practical, strong and always there to be a soft place for me to fall. He has stuck by me through richer and poorer, and sickness and health and all the rest, just like he promised. But the one thing that I feel is most important to point out is that no man or woman should have to settle for any less than feeling that they are with the right person, no matter who that person is. There are so many types of male and female personalities ranging in beauty, intelligence, background, upbringing and experience and in this day and age of being able to connect with so many, I believe that nobody should ever settle. Bottom line.... we only live once, this is no dress rehearsal, and there is no time to waste being miserable with the "wrong" one.
Apr 27 2014: "it was then that I met someone that finally accepted me for me."
You had to figure out who you were before you could figure out which man would accept you.
The issue with a lot of younger females today is they are not figuring out who they are to be able to make a qualified life decision like this with any kind of success.
I would love to see more gender specific education implemented so as to assist teens in finding and building up a stronger sense of self that is not as easily swayed toward something that does not feel completely genuine to them.
There's a serene comfort in knowing your truest, genuine self and being able to rely on that in any situation.
I want that for more people, males and females alike. I stand firm in my belief that in order for us to see this achieved en masse we have to be able to accept that gender equality does not mean that everything has to be uniform across the board.
Amy Winn
Apr 27 2014: I could not agree with you more. It breaks my heart when I see a teen trying so hard to fit in and go against everything that they feel. I was given a little piece of advice by my parents that I must admit I initially ignored, but when I finally used it, boy did it pay off! Here it is....
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They told me:
Wherever you are, and what ever you are doing, and no matter what you are faced with, think of us as standing right there. Now, would you do it? If not, you know it's the wrong thing.
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Apr 22 2014: Please tell me if I've correctly understood.
When men cheat it's an abuse of perceived property and our feelings toward the "other woman" is that she is allowing this abuse to occur if she knows about the cheating?
When women cheat it's because of something that is lacking in the relationship and a need for fulfillment?Apr 22 2014: Hello Carolin, do you think that loud media plays a great role in women life?
Media, pop-culture, tell women what is "cool", what to ware, behave, eat, how to talk and walk, what to do in bed ... I think our crazy environment makes many women and men behave like pitiful unfunny clowns.
Naturally, for instance, Not too many people need to be over-active sexually, and do not need at all to get into questionable relationships - many are not at all born this way - but they try to do just that because they do not wish to be "old-fashioned". Therefore, the majority, when is trying to keep up with that "super/man/woman" model, following those fashions (controlled by tricky industries) - eventually pay very dearly for fixing themselves according to that non-existing made-up prototype.
I hope that someday it will be a new fashion: Be yourself.
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Apr 21 2014: When a man cheats on his wife/girlfriend and she finds out, is she justified in feeling any anger and/or jealousy for the other woman?
When a woman cheats on her husband/boyfriend have you ever found yourself wondering what he must have done to make her do it?
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Apr 15 2014: Ang, I think this interview with Simon Baron-Cohen might interest you. http://edge.org/conversation/testosterone-on-my-mind. He became interested in gender differences because of his work in autism, which is very much more common in males.
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Apr 15 2014: Interesting Fritzie, and as Simon Baron-Cohen says in the article.....it is a story that is unfolding:>)
Unfortunately, I could not open any of the videos Fritzie. When I hit the "play" button, they went into "pause", so I only read the article/transcript.
Ang Perrier
Apr 15 2014: Thank you Fritzie -
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Very interesting read. These are the kinds of things my conversation is attempting to focus on. People sometimes get confused and think that I'm trying to say that men and women in being different are unequal but that's simply not the case. There are definitely some underlying variations in how a male brain and a female brain organizes, perceives, and interprets things.
To be able to understand these variations and teach in a way that optimizes learning in each of the genders I feel we could surpass all the expectations we've set thus far for our future generations.Apr 15 2014: What do you perceive would be the reasoning behind females committing murder in the 1st degree more often than the other degrees of murder??
Apr 15 2014: This question is not within my areas of expertise. My first reaction is that the number of instances of murder by women is probably extremely small, a phenomenon concerning a very small group of outliers in the population of women overall, regardless of country. Research into gender difference, such as that I linked by Simon Baron-Cohen, on the other hand, look at gender differences "on average". Scientific findings about differences "on average" probably shed little light on the behavior of such extreme outliers.
I think further one would need to look closely at the data to establish what lies beneath. For example, are male defendants more likely to get a charge of first degree murder negotiated down to a lesser charge than accused women are? Are murders committed by males typically incidental to crime situations or settings that are different from those that are the setting of murders committed by females?
For example, in my quick look at what the difference is between first and lesser degrees of murder, it seems that a fair number of murders may occur during bar fights. If frequenting bars is much more common among men than women and if bar fights result in a significant amount of murders that are not premeditated, then men might, by virtue of recreational choices, have a higher proportion of non-premeditated murder than women.
There are members of the TED community with significant experience with offender populations who may be informed on this issue in a way I am definitely not.
Apr 15 2014: The question is not "what is the reason that females commit murder in the 1st degree...?" My question is "What do you perceive would be the reasoning behind females committing murder in the 1st degree?"
Not based on facts, just based on your own subjective reasoning skills, what do you "think" the answer is?
Dino Walpa
Apr 14 2014: Ang eating at a restaurant is also gender neutral. Most gender conversations are intent to subjugate men to a view that men are emotionally inept or lack a developmental emotional perspective that makes them less qualified to raise children or is used to define men negatively. Questions like why aren't more women... and you can pick any industry that operates on the perspective that any man in those industries is keeping women out. So are gender neutral choices optimal for men? No. Gender discussions or political correctness is a failed platform the same as laws preventing women from voting or owning property. It creates innuendo and discourse. The expectation of a man or a woman having a loving relationship is gender neutral. On having a family, of doing well at any grade level. The minute that social contract is challenged and we become single. Issues of fairness and equality is discourse to what was once the same goals for both sexes.
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Apr 14 2014: If men experience and connect with their emotions in a different way is it fair to hold men to the same expectations as women as far as expressing them?
In schools young boys are asked to identify with fictional characters in a way that would require them to be able to connect emotionally. Is it fair to hold a grade over their head where a fail could impose a negative self image if there is a developmentally different way that they process feelings and it isn't as easy to complete the project as it is for girls?
I'm not implying that boys/girls are less, I'm saying that there may be developmental differences that if acknowledged would assist in a more effective way of allowing each to achieve their full potential.Apr 15 2014: What do you perceive would be the reasoning behind females committing murder in the 1st degree more often than the other degrees of murder??Apr 14 2014: ... that 'she' is always right!
Apr 14 2014: Which begs the question; "is she always right because she's right, she truly perceives herself to be right, or she knows she's wrong but continues to argue that she's right???"
Is there a difference in the way a male is "right" and a female is "right"?
Apr 14 2014: There is a beautiful quote I learned from Ken Robinson, he quoted himself, which goes:
'If a man speaks his mind in the forest, is he still wrong?'
And to answer your questions ... they are all rendered totally irrelevant and insignificant by previous definition...
We only have to accept reality ...
Apr 14 2014: Who's reality? Are you saying that woman imposes her reality on man? If that is the case how is it that we have always and continue to live in a predominantly male dominated world? If woman was right and man accepted that, she should have had a lot more control over her environment and been subject to far less adversity, abuse, and discrimination, right?Apr 14 2014: 'Who's reality?'
You are more reluctant than I expected ... ;o)
Well then, let me ask you, what makes you think that we live in a 'male dominated world'? Because of the statistical numbers which gender is 'officially' in charge?
'Presence' and 'Influence' to me is less a matter of visual appearance.
History has had a multitude of stages in which genders cooperated more and less cooperatively and as much as I can see, since world dominating religions came into being, the natural fluctuations and balancing changes got out of sync and in favor for men. But if this truly marks a permanent change in power, remains to be seen.
The actual trend in 'genderfication' appears suspicious to me in certain aspects, yet this would be a whole discussion just on its own.
Apr 14 2014: You were expecting me to be less reluctant based on what?
"Genderfication"?? What's your definition of this?
Male Dominated World
Time Magazine's list of the 100 Most Influential People of 2013
There are 34 women on that list
10 of them are in Entertainment/Sports
3 of them are listed in 1 spot together
3 of them are listed in a spot along with a man
100 Most Influential People in History
2 women make the list, both were Queens
1 made it to the runners-up list
100 Most Influential Figures in American History
7 women make the list
Currently there are 362 men and 76 women in Congress
Let me ask you this, what could influence me to think that we don't live in a male dominated world?Apr 15 2014: 'You were expecting me to be less reluctant based on what? '
'"Genderfication"?? What's your definition of this? '
Equalization of genders beyond rights.
All 'Most Influential People' you are referring to are those which are or have been in open limelight. If this truly reflects the structure of power in history and today, I doubt.
Most careerist know, that to win the attention and affection of 'the boss' you have to win the attention and affection of his secretary first (not emotional or sexual). And although secretaries will never appear on any TOP something lists, because nobody knows them, 'behind the scenes' woman have always influenced male leaders in one way or the other.
Influence of this sort is not directly measurable, as it takes deep inside knowledge of relationships and networks, which no outside reporter gets to find out bout easily, if ever.
We already know that 'in general' woman seem to have the better talents for leadership, yet we also know that the 'best jobs' are not given to the best qualified people.
Careerism on that level you mentioned is mainly driven by the 'call of power', the art of intrigue and recklessness, 'old boys network' and inheritance, which seem to thrive better on Testosterone, such as the violence it takes for 1st degree of murder.
Big fish eats small fish. So to get on the top of the power food-chain, this hormone seems to kick it.
Yet this hormone has a well known weakness, which, intelligently played, can make for true yet invisible influence.
So yes, the limelight shows mostly man on the stage, yet we usually don't get to see the strings attached to them and by whom ...
Ang Perrier
Apr 15 2014: So when our children are learning about historical figures who had a great impact on life as we know it, do you think they're learning about an equal number of males and females?
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Do you think that they take away any opinions about gender roles in societal life after school?
Does it appear to a young child in school that the world offers equal opportunity for both?
How might this affect their outlook as they continue to grow into adulthood?
Does this kind of information cause males to perceive the world differently than females?
How differently does a female view the world compared to a male?
Does this have any bearing on the way things are progressing for us?
How do we rectify this and get our worlds more in sync with each other?
We can't possibly answer any of these questions without first recognizing that there may be drastic differences in perception based on gender and then studying it.Apr 15 2014: "Most careerist know, that to win the attention and affection of 'the boss' you have to win the attention and affection of his secretary first..."
So, Lejan, you are appealing to the common wisdom that "behind every successful man is a good woman" - without whom he presumably would be less than successful?
Yet, the woman is there at the pleasure - and often for the pleasure - of the man. And a woman can be easily replaced when it comes to men in powerful positions (which does not necessarily mean the man himself is powerful).Apr 15 2014: 'So when our children are learning about historical figures who had a great impact on life as we know it, do you think they're learning about an equal number of males and females?'
It depends what history and how you teach them about it. Popular history usually gets written and passed on by 'the winners', which naturally makes for a pretty biased, one sided picture about what really happened.
The same goes for 'leading figures' and how children get to know about 'them'.
Personally I have learned more about 'them' by Bertold Brecht than by any history class I ever had, because he inspired my way how to think about the so called authority.
A truly democratic society may re-frame the context of how it presents and preserves what lays in the past to encourage their young to make up their own minds about it. To do so, skepticism about any form of 'personal cult' may help as well.
Once there, I can only assume, that gender becomes irrelevant by what can be archived, but it would take an ongoing dialog within society, to keep peoples minds awake about it.
I don't think that gender roles are entirely man-made, yet it is very difficult to distinguish what is from that what evolved naturally of it. Especially, when one is already influenced by ones own 'time'.
If we see commercials from the 40's or the 50's and their role-model of woman at that time, we tend to simile today about its obvious nativity. But it is only obvious to us today, not then, and we may only see tomorrow, what we have now.
Different than you propose, I don't see any reliably indicator, that the 'world offers equal opportunity' to anyone on this planet, regardless in what part of the world one lives in. The 'American Dream', that if your work hard you'll make it, is a carrot on a stick on peoples foreheads put there by others, who know better about the 'rules of the game'.Apr 15 2014: And if we take a look on the current discussion about equal opportunities of genders, it isn't surprising to me, that its main focus is about business, Top Ten managers, etc, as if this was the only measure to describe what makes a society, to measure its success and what defines its values.
To me this is giving false ideas to young generations, boys and girls, because it hinders both to grow their true talents in order to focus on career oriented skills.
I am convinced that males perceive their world differently than woman do, just by the statistical fact, that men spend way more time to think about sex, how to get lots of it, and, preferably, with as many different woman than possible.
And although I am no biologist or medical expert, the only way to make both genders more equal in perception was to equalize their hormone composition, as otherwise, they would divert again naturally.
I think the most dominant force in gender roles is the way society cultivated sexuality and as long this doesn't change, roles will form around it in different, yet forming ways.
Yet as the sexual drive is one of the strongest drives in humans, this task is going to be quite difficult to tackle.
If in the future, genetic manipulation or hormone suppressive medication will become mandatory, I don't know, yet I hope I am not going to face this during my lifetime if it will.
Alternatively, I can only think about education at and for its best, yet especially there are many pit-falls as well, because any educational system only reflect the ruling and dominating trends of its time and change is fragile and no guarantee for things to evolve for a better.
In short: I have no recipe what would be best, because I am a victim of my time and experience myself ...
Apr 16 2014: Mandatory genetic manipulation or hormone suppressive medication hmmm...
I already posted this on the conversation but I'll repost it here.
I recently read a statistic; a study was conducted at a college where 35% of these educated men said they would rape a woman if they were assured to get away with it. In another study conducted at a different college over half of them said the same thing.
Another piece of this is the study conducted on teenaged boys where they found that in rape fantasies there tends to be greater arousal if the victim has pain inflicted on them and in some cases the more pain the greater the arousal.
These tendencies are non-existent in women.
The part of the male brain connected with sexual arousal is also the part where aggression is concentrated. It's considered to be a primitive part of the brain not usually connected to a higher form of thinking.
Not only are men thinking about sex all the time but they're associating it with aggression and there isn't much actual "thought" going into it.
Segregating the schools and allowing boys and girls to mature separated during the years when their hormones are at their craziest may cause a positive shift in these thoughts and behaviors.Apr 16 2014: Ang, what evidence do you have to support your statement that men are thinking about sex all the time?
I know that I certainly do not. And I know plenty of other men who do not think of sex all the time, or even most of the time.
I think this claim is a bit of "common knowledge" that's far from the truth.Apr 21 2014: When a person spends their time studying math the areas of the brain that are connected to math problem solving will develop strong super highways of connections that allow the person to do math more efficiently.
A young hormone driven male is aroused multiple times a day and finds himself sexually stimulated frequently. Is it safe to say that the areas of the brain connected to sexual thought would be over developed just like the mathematician's brain? That the more a young man develops those super highways in that area of the brain the more apt he is to be overly distracted by sexual thought throughout the rest of his life?
A young man without the other mental stimulants to divert attention away and allow for developing growth in other areas may get bored with his sexual fantasies. Could this be a contributing factor in these fantasies taking on a sinister and masochistic quality that eventually has to be realized?Apr 15 2014: @ Carl Karasti
I came across this 'stereotype' many times.
Less frequent in numbers yet uprising, couples in which both genders are career driven will simply buy the service necessary to run the basics of their household and for the upbringing of their children, in case they have any.
Getting to the top without having the luxury to be borne there already, is time consuming. Anything from there is self-explanatory no matter how the individual solutions get arranged, as a day only has 24 hours.Apr 16 2014: I totally agree with those statistics and that 'male sexuality' is highly influenced by aggression, yet I doubt that 'separation' at school will have a positive effect on how boys form their sexuality. Woman or girls don't have to be physically present to occupy the minds of males.
It would be interesting to know, which I don't, if in indigenous tribes, in which nudity is part of the culture, the 'mental concept' of males sexuality forms differently by visual hebetation?
I don't know.
Apr 16 2014: Sites, smells, and sounds are all influential in hormonal fluctuations.
Alleviating some of that during the hours when these boys need to concentrate on something else, I can't imagine a scenario in which it wouldn't at least help.
Also there are studies that suggest all male schools produce more young men with a desire to pursue activities that tend to be thought of as feminine interests such as art, music, theater, etc...
These are all activities that generally promote and create a stronger connection to emotion which is something a lot of young men need to work on to suppress some of that aggression. Suppress the aggression, maybe the sexual urges, more specifically the violent sexual urges, get suppressed.
Not saying this would solve all problems but could be considered an improvement on our current situation.Apr 21 2014: On 'When a person spends their time studying math...'
Fascination, in general, to me is no matter of conscious choice, and I further assume, that without sexual fascination our species would not have made it so far.
A typical approach of nature is abundance and variation, wherever possible, to statistically increase chances for life to exist and to sustain. That an initial impulse for reproduction was not run on the same approach would actually be quite difficult to understand and to explain for me, which makes me quite lucky that it is as we have it.
And although this impulse will form somewhat differently in each and any individual, I don't see any reason why the quantity of those impulses would have any relation to the sinister and masochistic quality you mention.
It is the final use of strong and trained neural connections within a value system which determines the outcome, measured by the value systems of others, not the strength of that connection itself.
According to some psychological schools it is even the suppression during sexual self-definition which forms 'abnormal' behavior, although I am personally not quite certain how a 'normal' behavior could be defined in sexuality.
To give you an example, the only three reasons why I am not starring at major female attributes when those are around me are manners, respect and close distances, in which the focus points of my eyes remain detectable. The first two reasons are part of my 'value system' and never crossed unless invited; the last reason is pragmatism which does not compromise the other two.
Within intimate relationships there is no reason why humans would not integrate and act upon their value system, thats why I think, it is this 'value system' which causes the 'sinister and masochistic quality' of interaction and not the quantity of sexual impulses.
I also think that sexual 'masochism' is not negative in itself. It only gets negative when it is forced and/or not shared. It got to be mutual!
Apr 22 2014: Arousal for men is experienced in the primitive part of the brain where aggression also resides. There is far less higher thinking occurring in men who are aroused than in females.
In men when there is an area of the brain that is significantly more active than another part, that section will actually spread and grow, seeming to take over other areas. If the primitive part of the brain is utilized far more than the other areas there is a chance that the individual will have a far more aggressive nature and since arousal and aggression are linked then their sexual tendencies may and tend to have strong ties to violence.
I mentioned a study earlier in this conversation where teenaged boys reacted with stronger arousal when they viewed a rape victim experience an injury and more pain caused more arousal. I have to find a reasoning for this because once a reason has been identified it becomes slightly easier to avoid such behavior in future young boys by theorizing and implementing them while assessing the results.
This is based on what I've read and my understanding of what I've read. That's not to say that new studies wont bring about new information or that my interpretation of the technical data may be off. My opinions are based off of this though and it makes sense to me.Apr 22 2014: Although I think to understand your motivation 'to find a reasoning' in what influences male sexuality, I do not agree in defining violence exclusively in its physical representation.
As a boy I was involved in many of those 'masculine games' with other boys, which made for quite some bruises and scratches by its plain physical violence. Nevertheless, the impact this form of violence had on me doesn't even come close to the violence I came to experience later with girls and woman.
I came to learn that to many females it was of importance how many man they could get interested in them, and that it didn't matter if that interest was just sexual or based on deeper emotional motives, which we call love. Just in itself, this isn't a problem, as one has no say in who falls in love with one, yet to play this for vanity reasons is what I consider emotional violence, of which females are as well capable of.
I also think, that many woman do use their sexual attractiveness they have on man intentionally and as one way of non-verbal communication. Without this, the whole industry of cosmetics and fashion would to large degrees be pointless in western societies.
So if you aim for a more harmonic coexistence of both genders, those 'games on key stimuli' have to be considered and revised as well.
It wouldn't make sense to me to separate boys from girls in school, to reduce the exposure time of femininity on those boys, when femininity then gets emphasized and underlined after school and from 'the other side'.
And as I don't think, that woman are going to give up those 'triggers', I doubt that behavioral change in men against natural given instincts can ever be successful.
And of course I am horribly generalizing here to make for loopholes. ;o)
Apr 22 2014: You do seem to be generalizing Lejan, and I think that generalizing is the only thing we can do when talking about gender issues?
I agree that males and females may be equally capable of emotional violence, playing games for various reasons, and it seems that both some males and some females use sexual attractiveness to lure the opposite sex. Do you think/feel that cosmetics, fashion, and body building industries do not apply and appeal to both boys/men and girls/women?Apr 22 2014: @Colleen:
The cosmetics, fashion, and body building industries reflect our current ideals about physical appearance, and the absence of comparable consumer products for 'character shaping' may represent the dominating focus on 'external qualities'.
During my lifetime I noticed a change in those industries to target males as potential customers and magazines, such as 'Men's Health' are promoting those 'new trends' to establish demand for those products.
I may be mistaken, yet throughout history it seems, that woman tend to underline their sexual 'key stimuli' more provocative than man do, which to me makes perfect sense, just by the given differences in 'readiness' for sexual opportunities.
Apr 23 2014: Hi Lejan,
I also have noticed an increased focus on men from these industries more recently. The industries have figured out just how much money can be made, so they want to draw EVERONE into the plan?
If health is the focus, that is great for all of us. If the focus is simply changing our looks with the idea that everything will then be fine, I don't see it as particularly helpful to anyone. I agree with you, that there seems to be more of a focus on external qualities. In my perception, it always helps to seek balance:>)
Perhaps you notice more women underlining sexual provocativeness because you are a man? I think I notice an increase in men focusing on sexual provocativeness....perhaps because I am a woman?Apr 23 2014: @Colleen
Personally I noticed this change in advertising in the early 90's and a bit after the advertising industry realized, that portraying attractive man in selling woman products seems to work.
'Health' is one of the most misused terms in advertising, intensionally, because who could ever argue against that? Yet if health gets visually linked to a certain ideal of attractiveness, it manipulates our perception about it in no positive ways.
On 'sexual provocativeness' I don't think it is a matter of gender to notice given trends, tendencies and quantities and to realize that the arsenal and the use of it is more numerous among woman that it is among men.
In general public or on official occasions I am offered more often to have a deeper insight on certain parts of the female anatomy than I have on the anatomy of my fellow man. Beaches and sport events are of course excluded here. So just by statistics I should have seen by now as much variety on male chest hair that I came to see on female cleavages, which I haven't, and this regardless the fact, that the latter is my key-stimulus, I would have noticed the other as well.
So do you really need me to give more examples to drive my point home on that? :o)
Apr 24 2014: Maybe you haven't noticed the vast array of different types of chest hair because cleavage happens to be more alluring to you. :)
Big burly men changing the garbage and mopping the floor is an effective tool for advertising. But it's less about the level of attractiveness of the men and more about what they're doing. Women want men who don't feel as though household tasks are "below" them. A man who is willing to help out and split the chores 50/50 is the allure not their muscles. That's just a perk ;)Apr 25 2014: Lejan,
You say...."the arsenal and the use of it is more numerous among woman that it is among men."
I don't have statistics to offer, so with simply my observation, I don't agree. I believe both men and women have various trends, tendencies, qualities at different quantities that may make up an "arsenal" with which they present sexual provocativeness.
You say you noticed the change in marketing to men in the early 90s. I remember, as a kid in the early 50s, seeing advertisements in newspapers and magazines, with a scrawny little kid next to a big burley bodybuilder, with the caption something like......with this product or method, you can look like the big strong attractive guy, rather than the skinny unattractive guy!!!
I believe the industries we are talking about intensified their marketing to BOTH men and women, in more recent times, and the idea has been with us (societies) for a very long time. Even in ancient times, both men and women wore makeup, cloths, jewelry and other adornments to enhance their looks for acceptance, to show their strength, sexual provocativeness, etc.
I am not anticipating more examples to "drive" your point home. I thought we were simply having a conversation, and we already know that sometimes we agree, and sometimes not so much.....that is ok with me:>)


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Makes the last t20 somewhat interesting as well.....
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In honor of Chevrolet's 100th anniversary this November, Super Chevy's editors compiled a list of what we feel are the 100 most significant Chevys of all time. They agonized and argued for days and we know you'll have your own ideas.
The countdown starts with number 100 August 1 and runs every day until mid-November. What car will be number one? Will your favorite be on the list? Check back every day to find out!-Jim Campisano, Editor
1.'55 Chevy Some 57 years since it was first introduced to the public, it's often overlooked how revolutionary this car was for Chevrolet. The body was completely new and the Bel Air hardtop model was a first from the low-priced three (the other two being Ford and Chrysler). On appearance alone, the car was breathtaking. It was a stunning automobile that looked like it could have been from a far more expensive brand. Even the lower-priced models had charisma and grace. The interior was equally appealing.
Then there was the all-new chassis, with longer and wider rear leaf springs located outside the framerails. Up front was a short-long arm front suspension with coil springs and ball joints. These features gave the '55 Chevy unprecedented handling ability.
Of course, what made the car legendary for many was Ed Cole's new overhead-valve V-8 under the hood. Designed from a clean sheet of paper, it was Chevy's first such V-8 since 1917. Displacing 265 cubic inches, it introduced Chevrolet's loyal customers to a whole new world of performance. Of course, once the hot-rodders got hold of it, the brand's image would change forever. The Bow Tie division went from reliable, affordable, and stodgy to powerful, durable, and desirable--without losing the "affordable" part of the formula.
The '55 went on to become the best selling Chevy ever to that point. It helped steal the youth and performance market from Ford, whose flathead V-8 was the engine to have. Without the '55, we might all be driving Fords or Dodges all these decades later. From the moment of its introducton on, the automotive world would never be the same. For this reason, it earns the title of the Most Significant Chevrolet of All Time.
2.'69 Camaro The engineers and management at Chevy knew the jig was up. Between the hippies who only wanted to take their trips pharmaceutically, an insurance industry that punished anyone who bought a muscle car, and the government's press for cleaner tailpipe emissions, the days of unencumbered muscle machines were coming to a close. Chevy knew it, all of GM knew it, so they went down swinging. And swinging hard.
For 1970, gone was the edict that dictated no intermediates with engines larger than 400 cubic inches. Pontiac, Olds, and Buick answered with potent 455s, and Chevy had two answers: the SS454 LS5 with 360 horsepower and the SS454 LS6 with an earth-rotating 450 horses and 500 lb-ft of torque. This was the highest-rated engine in a Chevy since the early 427 '66 Vettes, which were also rated at 450 ponies.
The Chevelle got a new body for 1970 that was as packed with brawn as the new Rat motors under the hood. Once the magazines got a hold of the LS6 Chevelles, it was all they could do to contain their excitement. Track times were exemplary: Super Stock & Drag Illustrated ran 13.2 at 106; Hot Rod reported 13.44 at 108.17. Car and Driver got an automatic-equipped model to run 13.8 at 103.80. Headers and tuning tricks would have you in the 12s easily.
The following year, GM dropped compression ratios across the board, and performance like this was thought to be gone forever. This made the solid-lifter LS6 SS for 1970 an instant collector's item.
3.'70 Chevelle LS-6 Except for the '55 and '57 Chevys, and the '63 split-window Corvette, the '69 Camaro is perhaps the most recognizable vehicle ever produced by Chevrolet Motor Division. From the cheapest six-cylinder model to the fire-breathing COPOs and ZL-1s, everyone has either owned or wanted a '69 Camaro. People who know nothing about cars can tell you what it is. How many other muscle cars have been featured in an erectile dysfunction commercial on TV for heaven's sake?
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With an 18-month on-sale period, it's no surprise that the '69 was the best-selling of the first-gen Camaros. Its styling was reminiscent of the '67-68 models, but more sinewy and grown-up. You had your choice of two six-bangers, two base V-8s (307 and 327), three 350s and four 396s (if you count the L89 option), plus there was the 302 in the Z/28, the COPO 427/425, and the all-aluminum ZL-1 427.
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Sketches of Science: Photo Sessions with Nobel Laureates
Exhibition of Nobel Peace Laureate Portraits by Peter Badge in Brussels
On the occasion of the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to the European Union, 38 remarkable portraits of Nobel Peace Laureates were on display in the Presidential Gallery of the Berlaymont building of the European Commission in Brussels. Read more...
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A Project of the Foundation Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings
The portraits of the Nobel Laureates used throughout this website are part of a project set up by the Foundation Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings and supported by the Klaus Tschira Stiftung gGmbH. Since the year 2000, Peter Badge has been taking photographs of all the personalities who have been awarded the Nobel Prize. The product is a kaleidoscope of impressive people who, over and beyond their expertise in data and information, stand for a constant striving for excellence. The encouragement of such excellence in subsequent generations of scientists marks the spirit of the Nobel Laureate Meetings on Lake Constance, where many of the portraits were taken.
The first volume with the title "Nobelpreisträger = Nobel Laureates // fotografiert von Peter Badge" was published in 2001 and featured 69 Laureate portraits. Following the first addition of new portraits in 2004, "Nobel Faces – A Gallery of Nobel Prize Winners" was published by Wiley-VCH Verlag (Weinheim) in 2007. This edition contains 295 impressive black-and-white portraits of Nobel Laureates from the disciplines of physiology or medicine, physics and chemistry. It also includes portraits of holders of the Nobel Prize in Literature and the Nobel Peace Prize, as well as of winners of the Prize in Economic Sciences, awarded by the Bank of Sweden in memory of Alfred Nobel. A coffee table book was published in August 2008.
NOBELS includes some of the most storied names in recent history, including Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, the Dalai Lama, Toni Morrison and Gabriel García Márquez. It also features the likes of:
John Nash, who won the prize for Economics in 1994. He was photographed while seated on a floral-print couch, hands clasped, staring soulfully into the camera. His accompanying biography explains his West Virginia upbringing, his rise into the most demanding academic institutions in the U.S., and his descent into schizophrenia which nearly destroyed his personal and professional life. He ultimately triumphed over his illness.
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Hans G. Dehmelt, pictured bare-chested in a jaunty hat with a gleeful smile, who won the award for Physics in 1989 for his discovery of the 'ion trap technique, which made it possible to study a single electron or ion. Born in Germany, he fought in World War II and was captured during the Battle of the Bulge. He later emigrated to the United States and became a professor at the University of Washington.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, of Russia, who died on August 3, 2008. He won the award in Literature in 1970. Born in 1918, he survived war, the gulag and exile, writing in secret until 1961 when he sent his first novel to a literary journal. One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich became a hit in Russia and abroad. Solzhenitsyn produced numerous othe works, and suffered further indignities under the Russian government, a tale told both in the text and in the photograph that highlights his long face and somber eyes.
Peter Badge brings more than 300 stories like these to life with his photographs—each one different from those that came before it-- and Chris Richmond explains each Laureate's amazing success. No longer are the tales of a year's most influential scientists, thinkers and writers hidden away, for only the history buff to find.
Nobels - Nobel Laureates photographed by Peter Badge (website of Wiley-VCH)
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Peter Badge was born in Hamburg, Germany, in 1974, and began his career in photography as a freelance artist in 1993. Choosing portraiture as his main focus, Badge concentrated on noted personalities such as artists and actors, musicians and photographers, and in his latest work on "Icons of the Economy" and "Philanthropists". He embarked on a series of photographs of Nobel Laureates in 2000, commissioned by a number of renowned organization like Deutsches Museum, Smithsonian Institution, the National Museum of American History and the National Portrait Gallery in Washington, D.C. as well as his partners, the Council for the Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings and the Foundation Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings. This project turned out to be a long-term, ongoing mission which has taken him all over the world in order to capture an image of every living Nobel Laureate.
The discovery of the fundamental particle that is believed to be the key to the standard model of physics was the dominant topic discussed by all particle physicists participating in the 62nd Lindau Nobel Laureate Meeting. Euphoric assessments prevailed.
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The Starkville High School tennis team opened the season in style Thursday afternoon.
The Yellowjackets beat Hillcrest, Ala., 4-3 in the first ever "Cowbell Match" at the Starkville High School tennis courts.
Jaguar head coach Brad Armstrong presented Jacket coach Rob Fyke with a cowbell after the match.
The teams hope to keep this rivalry going.
"Competition," Fyke said about playing Hillcrest. "We wanted to get a competitive match against a team that will tell us what we are made of. The teams around here that could do that we already had on the schedule and some of them are in district, so we thought it would be a no lose situation to get this going with an Alabama team."
The match was also a good way for Fyke and his players to gauge how preseason practice went and what to expect the rest of the year.
"It went well," Fyke said of the match. "This was a match that we were trying to get all the kids entered into the season properly. It accomplished that and on top of that, we won the match. Gave them some confidence going into the season. Good all the way around; weather was good and couldn't ask for anything better."
Lewis Maynard was the only boy to win for the Yellowjackets. He won 6-4, 6-1 in singles action.
Maynard has stood out in practice and Fyke wasn't surprised he gave them a point.
"From our boys, we have some good senior leadership in Brian Xu and Lewis Maynard," Fyke said. "They have stood out at practice. We are real deep on the boys' side. We have eight boys that could legitimately play competitive varsity tennis."
On the girls side, Emily Turner won 6-3, 6-0 in singles play, Hannah Laird and Dasha Bondarenko won 6-1, 6-2 in girls doubles action and Ashley Albritton and Christine Mazzola won 6-0, 6-2 in the other girls' doubles match.
"We have two girls that are elite players, Emily Turner and Hannah Laird," Fyke said. "They stand out at practice. We expect wherever Emily and Hannah are we will win."
For Albritton and Mazzola, playing together is not something new for them. They have been partners for a while and Fyke wasn't shocked to see them win.
"Ashley Albritton and Christine Mazzola have been playing doubles together for three years now," Fyke said. "In most cases, we expect them to get us a win."
For the other spots, mixing and matching will be Fyke's style for the early part in the year. He is looking to find the best recipe by doing this.
"For the rest of the spots, we are going to move them around the next three weeks trying to get us the strongest line up," Fyke said. "It just depends on how we match it and where they're at."
As for where Fyke wants his team to be at the end of the season, it is where most teams want to be.
"We are a competitive team and we want to compete for a state championship," Fyke said. "Oxford will be the big hurdle."
The Jackets will be back in action today when they host French Camp at 3:30 p.m.
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Dare To Be Square – Seattle, Washington, 2009Dare To Be Square is a weekend event celebrating square dancing in its many forms. North Carolina callers Nancy Mamlin and Phil Jamison created the event in 2003 and hosted the first few gatherings at Warren Wilson College in Swannanoa, NC. Subsequent years saw similar events held in Portland, OR,…
Tags: Allemande Thar, Arkansas Traveler, big set, Birdie in the Cage, Bob Dalsemer, Chicken Plucker, Cut Away Six, Dare To Be Square 2009, Dip and Dive, Down Yonder, Duck for the Oyster, Georgia Rang Tang, Glenville, Going Uptown, Grand Square, Kentucky Do-Si-Do, Lines of Six, Louisiana Swing, Maryland Line, Morgantown, New Creek, New England, On the Trail of the Lonesome Pine, patter, Right Hand Gent by the Right Hand Around, Seattle, singing square, Square Through, Strip the Willow, Texas Star, timing, Tip the Willow, Tony Mates, Tony's Back to Back, West Virginia
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Caller, Earl Johnston, a member of the first CALLERLAB Board of Governors. Johnston was from Vernon, CT, and was a disciple of Al Brundage. This footage was taken by Bill Cross on October 1, 1989, at the party hosted by Jim and JoAnn Mayo to celebrate Jim's 40th anniversary as a square dance caller. It's a fine example of good timing in modern…
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One of things I really hate about taking figures apart to sand down the joints is putting them back together - specifically putting the pegs back into the elbows/knees etc. - it really kills my thumbs and burns my fingertips when heating the plastic with a hair-dryer to make it more flexible. Has anyone worked out an easier way of doing this? I always find it a bit of a race against time to fit the pegs back in whilst the plastic is still hot enough to stretch.
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