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- Pabitra Mukhopadhyay
- Kolkata , West Bengal
- India
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What leads us to decide?
We need to take decisions in life almost every day. In work or outside of it, life takes us on crossroads where decisions are necessary, without which we cannot move on. It is in these situations we take decisions and we believe that the decisions are independently taken, weighing pros and cons and utilizing our best judgments.
That may not be the case. Our decisions may not be as individualistic as we normally think. Our judgments may not be the best under the circumstances. We are often influenced by authority that comes from an expert or an institution or even a belief system but all of which, either solely or in combination are relied on as of authority. Yale University Psychologist Stanley Milgram, in 1963 published his research paper which measured the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts that conflicted with their personal conscience. They went on to impart lethal doses of electricity (as they believed to do) to some other participants just because they were deciding under authority. There are interesting videos available in Youtube which you can check.
We can project this authority beyond science. Religion is one. Market in another. Media is yet another. From small to profound we rely on authority almost obsessively for making decisions and yet think that our decisions are free and independent. If we need a reference for making decision, we should be seeking help from authenticity and not authority and they are different. Authority is beyond question, it regulates where as authenticity is free to be tested and it creates trust.
What leads us to decide – authority or authenticity?
Closing Statement from Pabitra Mukhopadhyay
It seems that we take help of both authority and authenticity to decide things. It may not even be an either/or choice as the question seeks to see decision making as. At times we can find authority and authenticity merging and at other times, at the very fringes of human choice the decision making may be so spontaneous that our sub-conscious plays a vital role. Moreover, our decision making process works over a range of our faculty, our brain conserves resources/neuronic energy while decision making.
Renee Marie
Apr 13 2013: Yes... New to TED and really enjoying the caliber of creative and critical, appreciative inquiry here. Looking forward to engaging with this diverse community. Thanks for your thoughtful conversation! May Peace Prevail On Earth.Apr 7 2013: I think, decisions are based on beliefs. You wouldn't be sitting if you didn't believe that the chair would support your weight.
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Why we believe is a good question. Sometimes, we believe because we hear something from an authority, sometimes we believe because of our own experience or evidence (authenticity), sometimes we believe something to achieve a goal (e.g. if we want to sell a product, we must believe that it is useful to someone even if we personally don't use it).
There is a variety of reasons to believe with a good overview given here
Apr 7 2013: Thanks for the link Arkady. If one sees it along the belief - thought - feeling - action chain, decisions are based on beliefs. I think my questions starts a little bit down the line, that is, from where that belief is supplied, authority or authenticity. Some commenters maintain, and my dear friend Colleen seems to be one of them, that it can be both or a mixture of both. Well of course it can be so. But even then is that mixture of equal portions of authority and authenticity?
I have argued that authority does not allow any question or examination of it's righteousness. Authenticity comes from a personal feeling of righteousness which is open to examination and question. Our social systems appear to me to be leaning towards authority and authenticity is not held as of equal importance.
Apr 7 2013: Pabitra,
You write..."Some commenters maintain, and my dear friend Colleen seems to be one of them, that it can be both or a mixture of both. Well of course it can be so. But even then is that mixture of equal portions of authority and authenticity?"
It depends on the situation, and the decision in question...don't you think?
Apr 7 2013: Yes. As in many questions here, the context needs to be defined.Apr 7 2013: I think I have tried to provide the context of the situations. In life, we are presented with choices and we decide one choice discarding others. So it is obvious that our decisions are dependent on the situation.
I am concerned about the huge preponderance of decisions made under the influence of authority rather than relying on authenticity by which I mean a judgement based on our personal examination of the choices critically.
I find it hard to accept that the large number of decisions that we make on a daily basis starting from trivial to profound are taken by us after evaluating all available options. I also find it difficult to trust authorities, as experiments show they can make us act like fools at times.Apr 7 2013: Pabitra,
I agree that we have choices, and decisions are dependent on situations.
I don't have difficultly trusting most authority/authorities, nor do I think/feel/believe they can "make us act like fools".
I have choices regarding how I act and react in every situation. Sorry, I cannot understand your concerns as you present them. You seem to want to seperate authority and authenticity, and I perceive them to often be intertwined. It feels like you want to go in circles with this.Apr 8 2013: Pabitra,
You may be interested to read the famous essay by Willam Clifford followed by William James and others here: http://ajburger.homestead.com/files/book.htm
Clifford takes your thesis to extreme - he makes an absolute moral rule:
" it is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."
Ironically, he immediately makes 2 exceptions to his "absolute" rule:
1. "We may believe what goes beyond our experience, only when it is inferred from that experience by the assumption that what we do not know is like what we know."
2. "We may believe the statement of another person, when there is reasonable ground for supposing that he knows the matter of which he speaks, and that he is speaking the truth so far as he knows it."
As you see, we HAVE to rely on other people's experience simply because our own experience is always limited. Clifford is the strictest evidentialist I know and even he acknowledges it. If you have trouble relying on other people's opinions, you will have trouble with education.
There are obvious problems with Clifford's position. 1. How do we justify the assumption that what we don't know is like what we know? 2. How do we make the choice to trust that the other person is knowledgeable and honest? The chain of justifications, authentications, and verifications, has to end somewhere. It's a known problem in computer security.
Why do you make such a dilemma? I always consider opinions of experts simply as another factor to weigh into my own judgment. When several authorities have the same opinion, it is often considered as an evidence of authenticity. Often, it makes sense to doubt our own perceptions - there is always a possibility that we missed an important detail or misunderstood things. So, checking with other people's opinions is often a wise thing to do.
Apr 9 2013: Thank you Arkady for the information about the book, I shall try to get it and read.
Whenever you consider opinions of experts simply as another factor to weigh into your own judgment, you are actually seeking authenticity. I agree that the chain of justifications, authentications, and verifications, has to end somewhere, but under the influence of authority the chain does not even start.
When I was in university, I started the idea of student's feedback on teachers' performance. I tried to say that students must compare and test teachers' performances and rate them. The Vice Chancellor called me up in his chamber and told me that we just cannot rate some of the fabled professors as boring, not effective and incomprehensible. He said their reputation and the university's position are beyond refute. I think that's an example of authority. When a country enlists youths for military services in connection with wars with faraway countries and hunts them down in case of their dropping out, I think that is an example of authority.
I head a team of very talented engineers and scientists to work in a very complex field of science/technology. It is my experience that I can only have the best of their output when they are free to challenge my experience, decisions and ideas.
I hope you will agree that I am sounding my ideas with you all here, am I not? I am essentially looking for authenticity.Apr 9 2013: You have a valid point. I also favor using my own judgment rather than relying on opinion of an authority to make decisions for me. I have noticed that as I got into habit of doing that, more and more people have started to seek my opinion for making their decisions (my wife is an exception).
But your question is "what leads us to decide - authority or authenticity?", and the answer is, clearly, "both". Is it wrong or right to use one or the other to make decisions? I don't know. I just know that both ways are used by a wide variety of people in a wide variety of situations. In some cases, it's beneficial to obey authority without question, in some - not. For example, in a combat situation, there is no time to discuss decisions. Troops have to move and act as one. Perhaps, there is a reason for this. I don't like it. You don't like it. This is why we are not in the military. But a lot of people, actually, like when decisions are made for them. Making our own decisions is one of the most stressful activities I know. Not to mention the moral weight of responsibility which makes many people uncomfortable.
In academic situation, an authority that feels uncomfortable to be questioned is a phony.
Apr 9 2013: The answer for me too Arkady, is clearly both authority and authenticity. With my belief and practice of gathering AS MUCH information as possible for decision making, I would not disregard any source in favor of a different source. Considering ALL information provides a better foundation for decision making, which leads to more confidence and contentment with our decision, and less regret.
I also notice that people seek my opinion, and I suspect the reason for that is because I encourage THEM to seek as much relevant, appropriate, available information as possible before making a decision. I will walk through the process with others, and I very rarely, if ever give advice. I share my stories, experiences, outcomes based on certain choices and decisions, and I firmly believe that the BEST decisions are made by considering all information, so that is what I encourage in myself and others.
I agree Arkady that some folks prefer letting others make decisions for them, and that relieves them of responsibility, which may, at times, be uncomfortable. The thing is....with the possible discomfort of responsibility, comes the comfort, pleasure and contentment of knowing we, as individuals, can orchestrate our lives. Once we realize this, there may not be discomfort in decision-making.....that is what I experience:>)
I also feel that questioning is a great resource, and I am aware that some folks are uncomfortable with questions. I think some folks perceive questions as a challenge to their belief system, so it may be uncomfortable to them. In my perception, it is another way to get information:>)Apr 19 2013: If I may jump in; There is another defintion of authority and that is; an authority, one who is an expert. I must admit that I accept the words of people who know what they teach, as authenticity. I realise I might make a mistake in doing this, but it's necessary if I'm to learn anything. So the bridge between authority and authenticity may be the authority, the person who knows.
Sri Vatsan
Apr 26 2013: Is any decision we ever take in life ever really our own? of course not.
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During our infancy our parents and relatives take our decisions for us, later on friends, teachers, media, religion, society etc. influence our decisions.
Our decisions are also based on what we observe and what we experience and these decisions formulate our personality which influences our future decisions.
What I am trying to say is, most of our decisions are regulated by different sources of authority, so our future decisions are a result of a unique combination of all the above mentioned influences and therefore all our decisions are authentic.
Roy Bourque
Apr 26 2013: I believe that it has a lot to do with where we feel we fit in the chain of command. Those who feel low in the chain of command are going to rely on authority because they want to fit in. Those who feel high in the chain of command are going to rely on authenticity because they want to make decisions that are based on fact. It reverts back to followers and leaders. Leaders take command. Followers follow command. And everywhere in between, it will be a mix according to one's self image of where they fit into the community.
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Education and intellect are also important factors, for without them, one is gullible to false information. So the degree of one's education and intellect will play a factor into whether you are capable of evaluating authenticity. Those who are not are guided by peer pressure rather than one's own will.
Apr 26 2013: Thank you Roy. I can sense that you are an insightful person. I think you grasped the contexts of authority and authenticity the way i tried to. I cannot cease to be amazed by the TED audience. :)Apr 13 2013: It is not a matter of right or wrong. The brain makes these calculations and based on the cumulative experiences you make the decision. This is the logic. Does this logic always make the right decision? No! Logic is neither right or wrong, however, one cannot decide without it. At this point of the chain reaction, logic, then, decision.
Renee Marie
Apr 15 2013: logic gets you from A to B. Imagination gets you everywhere... Albert Einstein
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Apr 15 2013: I would agree to that, also, I would love to expand. Imagination can lead you to imagine yourself out of reality.Apr 12 2013: There are several cognitive aspects that affect our decision making, some of them are:
- The amount of options that we have to choose from: Although common knowledge tells us that an increased amount of options increases our utility, I agree with Barry Schwartz's argument that instead of increasing our utility it lowers it. A large amount of options increases the chances of us regretting the decision we made and we are more likely to engage in social comparison.
- Our past experiences: When me make a decision we consider past decisions. However, our remembered utility is biased in comparison to our actual experienced utility which then makes our decision become biased. When we think about a past experience we only consider the "peak" moments, the happiest and the saddest, and leads us to create a biased memory of the past.
- The present situation we find ourselves in: The "hungry shopper" example, which tells us that a hungry person will buy more in the super market than a non-hungry person would, shows how we can't predict our decision making since we don't know what our context will be in the future. Even if the shopper plans ahead what he is buying, he will buy more if he goes hungry to the super market.Apr 10 2013: Todays TED.com talk is especially relevant. I saw it live at TEDxRiodelaPlata and loved it! Worth watching!
Apr 10 2013: I agree with you Jose today's talk was great!!
I would like to contribute the following :
Apr 11 2013: Suppose there are 10 different routes from your home to office. Say, your boss, a very wise, intelligent and clever person tells you to take only one particular route everyday. What will you do Juliette?
Apr 11 2013: When I feel my boss is "a very wise, intelligent and clever person"....then I'd feel fortunate to have the benefit of their guidance.Apr 12 2013: Dear Juliette, I see that you have used the word 'feel' twice :) So you will not accept your boss as a very wise, intelligent and clever person just because Pabitra says so.
Apr 13 2013: .....my wise friend PM's advice would weigh into my decision....and probably heavily.. since (I feel ;-) PM is a kind hearted, deep thinker with a genuine sense of concern for the betterment of life for all humanity....Apr 14 2013: Hmm. I really appreciated the big hug :) before it vanished! Can there be a scholarly discussion on how fondness grows, my friend? :D
Apr 15 2013: :)Thank you!!Apr 15 2013: Juliette Zhan
Certainly can
Make the heart glow
Feeling or reason
Seems in the season
What matters is flow
In appreciation. This off topic post will be removed in 24 hours.
Edited. Decision changed. Comment stays. Reader's discretion requested.
Apr 15 2013: :)Thank you!!
p.s. It's all on topic..its authenticity in action...and it is phenomenal to register it through mere electrons and transcend geography...you see...authenticity is boundless (unlike authority)...I'd say this is an infinitely better use of electronics, time, etc.iMOApr 7 2013: If a person's locus of control (a theory in personality psychology referring to the extent to which individuals believe that they can control events that affect them) is "inside", there is more authenticity in how we approach deciding about things. Trust is teh other key ingredient. If you "trust" an authority over your own level of knowledge about a topic, then going with that trusted authority can be an authentic experienceApr 7 2013: preservation of the "self" and protection of the "ego" are powerful humin priorities for survival AND everyday decision making. The next "A" to consider might be "altruism" (unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness). A balanced respect for: just Authority, thriving Authenticity and healthy Altruism could be the bridges we need to help decide a thing or two :o) I prioritize my decisions by these 4 criteria: impact, purpose, time, economics.
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Apr 6 2013: Hope.
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Apr 6 2013: Who provides this hope Juliette? Authority or authenticity?
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Apr 6 2013: Authenticity.Apr 7 2013: Even when we base decision on authority, it is still based on hope that the authority knows best. I like this answer very much.
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mary T
Apr 6 2013: I'd like to imagine that my decisions are all carefully thought out, based on all the evidence, weighing the various factors, etc., but in many cases, I shortcut that process by looking to the character of the person who presents me with the choice. If my dear brother, for example, asked me to jump in the lake, there's a pretty good chance that I'd jump in the lake. (Substitute "invest" or "support" or "give" for "jump.") Even for him, I ask questions, but not to the same degree. On the other hand, even when the cause is espoused by someone I know and admire, there are certain underlying values on which I am, I hope, immovable. And I try to act, not simply react. To make decisions from the inside out, not reacting only to outside factors but consulting my inner self, the light within.
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Apr 6 2013: Let me get this right. You mean the situation presents the choice and the character of the person provides the authority? Your brother cannot ask you to jump in a lake unless situation arises that you are near one.
The person with a character may be a doctor who asks you to take a drug that does more damage than good to you. Can be a company that sells you a shirt that was manufactured in a sweat shop in China. Can be your country that asks you to pull the trigger to kill a person in a war.
It may be so that you are taking far too many decisions to be consulting with your inner self, the light within, each time.Apr 6 2013: Hi Pabitra:>)
I believe the best decisions are made when we honestly weigh ALL information with an open heart and mind. Our decisions can be "individualistic" when we "know" ourself, and are willing to consider ALL relevant information.
If, as you say...."Our judgments may not be the best under the circumstances", we may not be adequately considering ALL relevant information.
You say..."We are often influenced by authority...". That, in my perception, is part of the information we can evaluate. Consider the source and whether or not we trust the source.
You write... "...research... measured the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts that conflicted with their personal conscience. They went on to impart lethal doses of electricity (as they believed to do) to some other participants".
If I was getting zapped with lethal doses of electricity, I may change what I'm saying or doing too. That does not seem like very good "research" to me.
I do NOT rely on anyone else to make decisions for me, NO MATTER what they say. I take full responsibility for the decisions I make. Again...lethal doses of electricity may change my mind about that!
When I have gathered and evaluated ALL relevant information, and am clear with my "self", I feel good about the decisions I make:>)
Apr 6 2013: Hi Colleen :)
Wish I could have been as confident and capable as you. Up till now, I cannot remember to have taken a decision where I considered ALL relevant information. I Do rely on some people on what they say, I could not, yet, successfully be independent for EVERY decision I take. I guess my question is for people like me and what they will rely on, authority or authenticity.
In your country the legal system is based on jurors. If I am not wrong a jury is carefully selected from among the society of common people, not experts. I think that implies reliance on authenticity rather than authority.
Apr 6 2013: OH sorry Pabitra, I could have said ALL relevant AVAILABLE information. We may never have ALL information, and we can certainly explore to any level we choose to have as much information as possible.....yes?
I consider information provided by other people.....that is where I get some information, so I am not totally independent in that respect. As I said....I do not rely on others to make decisions for me, and I DO rely on information provided by others.
To me, authority is part of the information to be considered. Yes, in the U.S., a jury is selected from among the society of common people. I have served as a juror, and in that position, I considered the authority (law), as well as ALL information presented by all parties. I would say that the decision, is both authority AND authenticity ("worthy of acceptance or belief as conforming to fact or reality" (dictionary)). I think many decisions may be based on authenticity AND authority. Why do you need to seperate those concepts?Apr 7 2013: Preservation of the "self" and protection of the "ego" are powerful humin priorities for survival AND decision making. The next "A" to consider is "altruism" (Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness). A balance between a respect for just authority, thriving authenticity and healthy altruism could be the bridges we need to help decide a thing or two :o) I prioritize my decisions by these 4 criteria: impact, purpose, time, economics.
Apr 12 2013: More good information Renee!
Preservation, protection, survival, altruism, respect for authority, thriving authenticity, prioritize by criteria, impact, purpose, time, economics.......how about preference?
AND BALANCE with the whole process...... YES!
BTW...looks like you're new to TED.........WELCOME!Apr 5 2013: Our decisions are influenced by something or someone, if not, we are probably not human.
The saying "We are one but not the same" comes to mind. We share so much in common with other members of our society, if not, there would have been so much conflict that we'd be in a permanent state of hostility. And we are also experiencing the world from a unique perspective hence the (hopefully) occassional conflict we experience.
Even deciding not to decide is not the same as indecision. Sometimes we want to be sure because we are afraid to take the so-called 'leap of faith'; sometimes we decide because we have to (the pressing circumstances); sometimes we are sure and our certainty is based on certainty; sometimes we are sure and our certainty is based on convincing illussions and believable lies.
Our lives oscillates between the two: we decide on authority and on authenticity.
Apr 5 2013: Feyisayo, are we free to give up freedom?
Apr 5 2013: We should strive to know the meaning of freedom. We will not be content if our perception and understanding of freedom is based on fantasy.Apr 5 2013: We both strive to understand the meaning of freedom and none of us has the answer to the question I asked, I suppose.
Apr 5 2013: It is simple; we decide based on direct and indirect influences.
Apr 5 2013: Meaning our decisions are not fundamentally free or independent?May 1 2013: I attempt to go with authenticity first and then see if authority confirms it.
I personally make decisions this way because nothing is ever certain, and all authority needs to be challenged. The so-called 'realities' that authority attempts to establish, are all too likely to become ingrained too deeply into our consciousness, creating belief systems that become less and less willing to move with the times.
Dismantling and reassembling beliefs in stimulating discussion facilitates authenticity in originality, creativity and speed in intuitiveness - while authority remains static, or clings primarily to the coat tails of a slower logical progression.
In my humble opinion, as a 'creative type', the decisions I personally make are based on a hierarchy of the broadly intuitive, hopefully through to narrower logic, which may or may not confirm the original intuition. For me at any rate, it has to be that way, and in that order.
May 1 2013: Thanks Allan. I had this feeling that I am not alone ! :)May 1 2013: I'd just like to add that I believe we make decisions based on the assumption that authority is hand in hand with authenticity. Sometimes though, it seems easier to ignore contradictions to the authenticity of authority as to not take the blame for decisions we make and to protect ourselves from "Thinking too hard," as I believe is evidenced in the Yale experiment.
W. Ying
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My answer:
Authenticity first!
Authority second.Apr 26 2013: I believe that some times decisions are also driven by instinct as well. A strong belief in some individual fundamental lead to decision making.Apr 15 2013: We learn to ask questions from science we learn love from God .
Renee Marie
Apr 15 2013: "logic gets you from A to B. Imagination gets you everywhere..." Albert Einstein
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Apr 15 2013: This reminded me of my conversation thread (deleted/removed by my request when I left TED) named 'Do you always think logically?' :)
If you are interested I had the same question asked in Project Reason and an interesting discussion followed.
http://www.project-reason.org/forum/viewthread/20449/Apr 13 2013: stability I guess, if we are about making a decisions we need to take a rest.. it might give us a good structure to take a positive decision.Apr 12 2013: Circumstances.Apr 11 2013: Another way I approach this question is from the perspective of cognition and information theory. We are constantly creating and changing decision making circuits in our brain, pre-programmed to react in a certain way when presented with a certain stimulus. Such stimulus could be extrinsic (outside of yourself) or intrinsic (the stimulus is from one of your own thoughts - or other decision making circuits).
Early on in life, we may create one of these decision making circuits that say "Trust authority". As we mature and grow, this circuit may just sit there trusting authority or anything else for that matter, causing you to decide to trust authority. Experience may cause you at some point to invert that circuit - don't trust authority. It is the combined parallel processing of all these circuits that allows us to form coherent thoughts, which vibrate like strings of an orchestra improvising a song in real time.
Each of us creates our own assumptions like this in order to form a model or view of the world that allows us to interact in it. Through experience, we are constantly rewiring our brain, changing the way we think (or not), and as a result, the way we make decisions and the decisions we would actually make changes over time.
Apr 11 2013: Mind-brain programming is a fascinatingly powerful tool. I use a picture of a horse tied to the hand-rest of an empty chair to demonstrate the power of such programming. The horse believes that it cannot/should not challenge the authority of the empty chair and keeps still.
I am happy that you acknowledge the rewiring of our brain with experience to develop a sense of seeking authenticity and dares to challenge authority. I think you will agree that it is inherently an internal process, hence gut feeling etc.
It is wise to reach out and grab the hand of a parent when a toddler learns to walk. But soon the toddler learns to walk by himself/herself despite the risk of falling/getting hurt.
Janet Ries
Apr 11 2013: I believe awareness and goals lead us to decide or not.
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Morgan Henry
Apr 10 2013: I can't comment on conscious decision making, nor do I think anyone can understand certain people's decisions; but I do think analyzing one's own decisions on the objective basis of mobility and experience gives something - a bit more tangible compared to ambitions or life plans. This talk ( http://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_wolpert_the_real_reason_for_brains.html ) wonderfully highlights how motor function/control is a combination of previous experience (muscle memory per say) and environmental input (sensory stimulations of given action/situation). Authority:Experience::Authenticity:Environmental Input and therefore, I'm afraid to give the grey answer, but decision making is a fine combination of both.
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Lee Park
Apr 10 2013: One would hope critical thought, but alas there is not much of that going on. So religious dogma, authority, media manipulation and social trend seems to win the day.Apr 9 2013: The interesting thing about how we make decisions is that our decisions will always be based off of the people around us. We try so hard to have some sort of stature in society and we want to be seen as someone successful, but success is not always the same in every society. Like in America we assume that the best thing for us is to go to school get a good job and make money because those are tenants of American society. What we really want is to be connected to other people and by doing that we take in the opinions of others about what they think success means in order to reach that level of connection. For us to truly decide individually we need to critically think about what is best for us, and in the end the thing that is best for us is the thing that brings us closer together, and to decide based off of others is not necessarily a bad thing, it should only be taken into question when the decisions we make prove to be harmful to others or ourselves.
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Shellei Gaza
Apr 8 2013: Afraid to take risk so we are afraid to decide. But if we decide either we are pressured. But i hope we decide because we feel we needed to and makes us happy.Apr 6 2013: Hi Pabitra,
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From where I see it - and that's only one angle - it's not as black and white as "is it authority or authenticity". While you rightly said there are multiple sources of authority, I wonder what we mean when we say "authentic". Who decides whether or not something is authentic? Who gives them the authority to decide that?
Where then, do decisions come from. I'd say they come from all external stimuli that influence our conscious mind and yet most of us take our decisions relying on the signals that our sub- and super conscious give us,
Hence, if my brother says jump in the lake and my sub- and super-conscious decree that my brother is right and to be trusted, I will. And yet, if my subconscious points out that my brother is not to be trusted, I may/will not jump!
Apr 7 2013: It is absolutely I who determines the authenticity, IMO. I examine, evaluate, feel, sense, realize or whatever but authentic is something that passes my tests. Authority is beyond question - it is the very nature of its tag of infallibility that gives something/someone the status of authority.
The last time you bought a medicine, you possibly did not sound it against your conscience. You saw the label of the pharmaceutical company and vaguely remembered that it is reputed. Also you thought you are buying the right thing for yourself because you have heard about the reputation of the medical doctor and his/her authority over the subject.
You possibly bought a home in a neighborhood that is good, meaning you trusted the social authority of the locality. The same goes with your car, your bank, your employer, your education. I don't think you have taken a call of your heart while deciding your choices.
Apr 7 2013: ummm...HUGE difference between conscience and conscious...i think it's important to acknowledge that first.
Also, if it is "absolutely I who determines the authenticity" you're saying you are the authority :)
By the way - again, what supports you to declare something authentic or inauthentic? Stimuli and inputs from your sub conscious. When you declare something authentic, you trust and rely on your judgment. Where does judgment come from? Stimuli to and responses from your sub conscious.
You're right, the last time I bought medicines, i did not use my conscience as a sounding board, but I did use my sub consciousness to arrive at the decision to buy or not. the "vaguely remembered" part comes from the sub-conscious. The "heard" comes from the conscious.
Similarly, insofar as "taking a call of your heart while deciding your choices" goes, you'd be surprised at how many choices are made and decisions taken merely due to the call of the heart...Ask every person who's done an impulse buy and then wished they hadn't. Ask every student who's made a career choice listening to those tugging at their emotions (from the heart) and chosen to do something that wasn't their first choice...ALL a beautiful play of the conscious and sub-conscious decisions.
Apr 8 2013: Hi Shalu :)
Yes you are right. I am saying if I am taking a decision and taking the responsibility of its consequences, I better be the authority.
Regarding taking a call of my heart I'd be honest with you. All life changing decisions I made have remained on personal call of my heart and I hardly regret. But I also make small, practical day to day decisions where authority figures subliminally or openly. I'd say it's fine if we realize that we are taken for a ride and we let the so called authorities to do that. But I shall not like to be deluded that those decisions are truly considered.
mary T
Apr 6 2013: Yes, I think that's a good way to put it. I can't spend all my time deciding everything from scratch. So, sometimes I rely on those I trust, whose character and values I know to be like mine. But some things, it doesn't matter who the person is -- at least I hope there are things that i remain true to from my own internal character -- if my brother told me, "please kill ...," I certainly would do no such thing. There is no absolute inside me about taking prescription medicine, so in that instance I would be more likely to rely on my doctor. I just cannot imagine that anyone, not even my brother, could ask me to administer a lethal dose of electricity and I would. Goodness gracious. And you, do you rely on others in making decisions? Can you imagine yourself killing someone in a study?
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Apr 6 2013: I would agree that our decisions are influenced from the 'store' of our experiences, and therefore "may not be as individualistic as we normally think". The many influences of decision-making you cite are significant. But for me, this is where 'individual freedom' and the 'free will' of adulthood come in. To me, we are not just 'reactive bots' that respond to the stimulus, or the 'professional messages' we are given. We are not just the sum of what we've experienced or have been told. We evaluate those experiences, we use our 'knowing' and our brains and evolve in our lives as humans so we can make better decisions as we learn. The old term 'wisdom' implies that we make individual evaluations of what constitutes 'value' in our lives. No one else can (ultimately) determine what I will do or not do - what I 'decide' - only me. Once I take responsibility for those decisions, then the influences and experiences of my life become only that, not the 'determiners' of what I decide. I would then say that it is neither 'authority or authenticity' which 'leads us to decide'. It is our free will and the totality of our innate/cognitive abilities and learning that leads us to choose the best path as an individual.
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Yes indeed - maybe even help them to deal with such things as grief.silverstreak wrote:I totally agree that it can be read by all ages.It struck me though,when I was reading it,that it could very well influence the developing minds of the younger readers.I mean that in a good and positive way.
Tonyblack wrote:I wondered that about Mrs Gurgle and Ermintrude's grandmother. I did seem unlikely, but Mrs Gurgle seemed like a very persuasive person.
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IMiiililpliiiiiii^^ Nassau County Review FREEPORT, N. Y^ FRDAY. APML 12, 1918 any In it for Wbrk Goiof Ak»g Nkely I at Amy Haadquarters Jhe aebadida ia now being woriud at Army Baadqaartera on Bnak- iyn Avenaa aad H ia antidpatad at Std «rHi«c tfiat to tha iauaadiat* tattae larga tMaiban et aiMiem (la- ImiIij) will be amonc ear coasts. More man eaa ahiaya ba aaad st Hm rooma. Aaarone latatastad ia ia- 'etSiS to drop aromd and tatrodnea kkssalf to tha man on doty. Vaal rissb^Ws aaed aocao more Sada st Haadqssrtan. Alao if pov aid waata ta eontribote a flac •laea oa froat ef tka baildinc mm A .Pfaaa/~W« are looklnc I aaJBprickt piano aa a h>aa or on aaay 1 terma. Tbo boya In oatform tlM OMMie last yuir aad wa want tm rm. them ksira It again, bat we havt as| tha raOM for £ atptara piano, al- ttipcfa aovOTsl of tbem aro avalUbta. Jbitartalabwv—Any peraon wisbing ig <aMtartain tlie boya for dinnera or ta allow tham tha naa of bathrooms cat (9Q« diract t« hasdvasrtsrii to IM duty man. now; foM Itl-^. Wa are now havlhg s nnmMt of the baaa with na, capaeially Saturday and Si4xi*l^ ''tii whenever you hava aa extrS plate at tba tabkt yau can drop araund and wa will bo cM to sup¬ ply you with a guest if we have any ai^ilablc—and we osnally hava some. ^rrent Macasbite are always of aarvice. We have no facilities for sidrini; quantities, but can always use tM that are left with ns. peedinx Our Gafsta^-^AtHhis writ- iag the I^di^' Committee has not yat been appointed, but it is anti^i- pojted that the ladies will make the loSms attractive for the "boya" along the same lines tbey did laat year. Schedule of Dnty Men.—The sched- ol* for the next few dayu j.? as fol¬ lows: Friday, April 12, M. C Williams Satarday, April 18, Willi>i M. Sum¬ mers ..-, Sunday, April 14, Fred H. Plump Monday, April 15, Kneeland Aah¬ down Tuesday, April 16, iohn Donaghy, Wednesday, April 17, R. S. Barrie Thursday, April 18, J. T. Cottar Friday, April 19, Peter Berger . Saturday, April 20, Hamilton G. King Cash Coming In.—We have been in need of ca^h, and made our wants known. The following i«sponBe8 are ac~ knowledged: Samuel R. Smith Edward F. Cook Henry L. Maxson Robert G. Anderson Mr. and Mrg. John S. Mowry Daniel Morrison Harry McCord David Sutherland, jr. Dr. W. H. Runcie Charles Losee .Cornelius Braren Werner Nygren Everyone can helo. _We can use to • Donations^—^The foilowing contri- but'ona are also ackaowldegtd: Contribution to pay for fone. |2 a month, from Hiram R. Smith; addi¬ tional 50'cents per month donated by one of our workers J. M. Keegan is to- keep the place supplied with toilet paper G. Braithwaite, supplies pena and ink Charles Losee, smokes , W. C. WiUiams, pens, pencils and magazines ' Everyone can help We can use ti advantage all the money or smokes aent in to us. The more cash there is available the more we are at liberty to do for our guesta. School Meeting May 7 The notice of the annual school meeting is published in this issue. ,Two trustees will be elected, to suc¬ ceed Messrs. Sutherland aad Grace. Mr. Butheriaad will in aU probability be re-elected and there will probably bo severa] eandidatea named to suc¬ ceed Mr. Grace, now a reaident of .Babylon. John M. Harrington of. Pine Straet ia among thoaa alroady mentioned. One of the daily papera alao saya: "'Mn. Eobert H. Baron, of S40 South Side Avenna, a prominent worker in iha Fraepott Ladka' Civk Gab, aad chairman of tiM Firat District Board of ElectiosSf haa eonawited to allow har nama to bo bronght forth aa a candidate for mamber of the Board of Bdocatioa.'* Wicks EstebU^ — Auto Route Charlea A. Wkka of thia rilUfa haa antabtishod aa aotomobila bna route from Fraeport to Marrkk, Bellmore and Wantach. Cleariinc ap aide of flna annary stock. larga and small; low cost; spe¬ cial discount to dealers; must clean crowid for boildioc purposes. Wood¬ bine Nonary, lohii J. Randall, Ocean snd Lana Avwoaa, Fraaport. tf t«a*Patt«no« Co. hava stocked up with a foil Una of sporting goods and fnvita yoo to call aaA aaa tham. ^ Queen Qaality Shuas for Women. Tobasco Brewn Calf Pomp, iroitatian wing tip, wait aole. mUitary heel; widtha B aad C. prica I6JS0; same in Waek, 96.90. Cravolaarafs, 99 So. MainSt AdowHswMat Carpet OcaalBC iM Older Wolfa <^«wt Works ara now ad. vsrtMac fMT asi»H dMttl9s aad ear- m teaeiSitt «sKk.' sa4 tavtte yoar 915.00 5.00 UM) .¦S.OO 5.00 5.00 5.0t) 10.00 5.03 2.00 1.00 5.00 FREEPOBT OPQiS UBHtTYLOAN CAMPAIGN HEARHLY Freeport storted tha Third Uberty Loan campaign laat Friday night in the ronsing manner in whkh this sec¬ tion osoally etarta things, with a big send-off—thie time a parade, a cpeeial band from Camp Upton, and a big crowd hstening to the addroasas that followed. The band arrived in the aftemoon aod storted thc event by a parade through tho bnsiness section, and the attention of oor dtixaos was still fur¬ ther attracted by aefial bomba flred at intervals daring the kte after¬ noon and early evening. The parade was led by tbe viUage oflkkls and the members of the local Liberty Loan Committee, and in the Hne waa a ftne large repraaantotion of the Fire DepAtment, Boy Seeots, the Home Dafenac Unit and the Freeport WHY I OUGffT TO BUY UBERTY BMIDS By Edward F. Cook ' HON. FRED C. HICKS AND THE 367th REGIMENT BAND AT FREEPORT. TUESDAY NEXT I wkh then waa aomethmg I coald oay or do to maka thc paopk of Freeport feel and realize tha necoaaity of bayinc Bonda of'the Third Libcrty Looa now beinc soU. When I sac oor boys in nniform oa oor streets, and other boya from all over thia brdad land aa well, and realise what tbay are I giring up and what sacriflces they are making, I stop aad a^k myself what am I doing. We are here in oor home tow^ wiih all the eomfwto of a gos4)j homo, hed, clothing and goinc about oor daily taaka, then I thiak aboot oor boya—220—whieh are represented on oor Service Flac, now 219, and what thay are havinc to face, not sayiac anythlnc aboot tha 2,000,000 now In the trenches or ready to go, raalirinc there ia hardahip, pain aad parhapa death in front of them, hot for all facing it with a smile, feeling that Ika aacriikoa thfy may bc calkd on to mako are not too gi'eat to make thk vforM of oon a safe place to Mve. Oh, men and women, can yoo stond by aad let thera do all of that for,yoor protection and not do yoor bit by baying a Bond? Is thare any sacrifice in baying a Bond? Is there aay aaeriflcc too crsst to make in buying a Bond? The Govemment stands behind this aad are pay> ing yqn a good nto of intereat. Are they asking too much for you to help them? Do you want your conscknce to condemn yon ehtP yoa see 0oroe of Branch of the Eed Crpao, ifith tbti'.r,^^ boy^ rjj tJit Jtr,?t with jmptjr 9l««ves tt on cratches, pr when the STSTmS?" °^!-"^'' *-^-"^ ^^''^ *'^-~'-"« '" '•''' ^ *^'^ '" '^^ *"-^ kml? Cmi yoo look The right of way Waa given to the I ****** *^y^ '" *** '*^° ^''*" ****y retum and say: "I did all I could do. J members of the G. A. R. in tw > large made sacrifices tn bny a Bond to help you." If I conid not do so I woold satoa; I be so aahamed I would go around aaother street to keep tttaa meeting t^fgn The parade storted from the F*ec-1 port Clnb and after paasing thrppg;h several principal streets, retumed to the large plaza near the Freeport Club, where a speakers' stand had beep erected, and provided with a sounding board that the speaken' voices might readily reach '.he crowd. A If red T. Davison presided. On the platform with him were Rev. WiUiam Wilkenson, popularly loiown aa "the Bi«Hop of Wall Street;" Vilkge President Robert G. Anderson, Rev. .T. Sidney Gould, Rev. Saul 0. Cnrtke, William G. Miller, l^tephen P. Pettit, Samuel R. Smith, Elvin N. Edwards, Edward F. Cook, A. L. Greenleaf, .'iohn M. Harrington, l^od E. Story and Charlea M. Hart, representing the Liberty Loan Committee. On behalf of the Federal Govem- r.iiut Rev. Saul 0. Curtice presented wnr service emblems to a namber of Lhc Boy Scouts whose excellent work in selling Liberty Bonds in the former eampn'gn entitled them to thc awards. 'Bishop" WHkenson advised "wo¬ men w«.rrior3" present, whoae sona ai-e goiiij; to thc war, nol to worry. Said Imj: 'You should kneel down and thank God that you have such a aon, h:vt lie ian't one of those l;ind having a red nose hanginG around a booze smporium, or spendinfj his nighto with a painted kdy.". The work of the local Libert^^ Loan Committee, witii Samuel R. Smith, president of thc Bank of Long Isknd, as chairm;.in, and Ilay Ackexman as secretory, is heinR- assiduously pro¬ moted. "The name, street address, oc- :.'4pation, htisrness address and datii ¦yt to former bonds subscribed, and ;.stimatGd baying ability of tsvery per¬ son in Frciniort has been completed, ind index cartls provided of each. Hoube to hou>(; canvasses art' being ,nado urgint^ the people to subscribe. The amount assigned to Freeport to 'io raised is .$38''2,000, and it is hoped ihat the totol amount will be over- sub.scribcd. The Freeport district in¬ cludes tho villages of Boosevolt, Mer¬ rick and East Meadow. The following sub-committees i:uvc- been appointed by Chairman Smith: Speakers—John M. Harrington and Edward B. Lent. Schools—Ward C. Moon and Merrin E. Powell. Publicity—Charies M. Hart, F. W. Miller, A. B. Wallace ani Thomas W. Murray. Firemen—John J.Randall, jr., Clar¬ ence B. Williams and S. Dimon Smith. Card Index—August V. Johnson, Albert Earle and James Tmswell.. Factories and Business Houses— David A. ^therland, James Hanse and Henry L. Maxson. Fratemities and Clnbii—Stephen P. Pettit. Itelian-American — Lonis Peroiti, Dominick Ferraza, John Rovegno and A. Busceni. Commutors—^Donald S. Mackay, Arthar Noaworthy and Leonard S. Mabee. Pnblic Meetinga—Elvin N. Ed¬ wards, Willard D. Finch and Albin N. Johnson. F8llow-ap—Robert G. Andoraon, Emest 8. Baitdall, Sidney B. Swesoy, Stephen P. Pettit and Werner Ny- gtea. Over ISO Raised at SoMien' Bene&t Movies Affair Planned By the Girb* Serviee Leagoo a Great The benefit for the conpany of Lieot. StoArt Cutler, one of the Freo¬ port boys, nere in France, given Toes- dky night at the Plasa, (Liberty) Theatre by the Girls' SoWice Leagne, proved very saeeessful. Althoogh all returns are uot in yet, the war tax the door reeeipto has been paid and the proceeds have passed tho $60 mark. Final flgurea will be given out by the League as soon as possible; then Lieut Cutler wiU be aent at once either articles needed by his men, or if, aeeordinc to the strict regolationa now on the shipment of boxtw for "Ovar Thoro," that la hnpoasibla. then the money wiU be cabled him to par- chase tl* articlM thare. Between iha perfonnancoa Coon- •olor Blvia N. Edwards atada aa oam¬ aat ag/pgel to tlte toaay praaoat in bo- haff of tiw "RiM Ubarty Loan DrivoL Ma aciad ilH> imyertaaeo et mteorib- iac amt Aeeei what a gnot amoaat of food ana a «» boad! 4oM for tite bof* ia «bo MTwie*. when they ratum. Oh, men and women of Frtepoj^, let ua put Ottr shoulder to the wheel and help our Govemment and our boys by not only working te buy Bonds, but. by going without something we had set oor hearto on in order to boy them. I say let as sacrifice, sacrifice, and then sacrifice aome more ontil it hurts, horto and then some more hurto, and if we do all we can we can hold up our heads and throw out oor chesto and face the world and be proud of the little button on the lapel of our coato which we are entitled to wear when we have parchased a Bond. Look at every man yon meet and see if he haa a button on, and if he has not ask him why the batton is not there. If he or she can give a good reason why it is not there, toke him by the hand and say: "God bless you, I know it would be there if it were possible." A man or woman who can buy a Bond and does not is aa much a slacker as the man who is trying to evade going to the front, and you hate a slacker, and if you were to shake hands with him you would feel your hands had been soiled. Let us shut our eyes for a moment and look across 3,000 miles and sae our boy.s beckoning, not for ue to come, but to send thera hdp in'the form of food, clothea, guns and ammunition, and every Bond wc poTchaee H, a message of love te the boys who ara on the other side. / Is there a person here who if some boy said: "Write me a message of love," wouW refuse. I say no. Then send a message of love in the form of a Bond, and in so doing say that there are other sacriflces we will make to send you more such messages if yoo need them. Every time I walk near onr Service Flag I feel I am treading on holy ground. Two hundred and twenty of our boys who are willing to do or die for you and I who are too old to do ourselves. I say again. Lord helps as to do our duty, not grudgingly, but gladly, with a feeling there is no sacri¬ fice too greait for us to make. In closing I want to give you a little extract from a speech which I heard, by Edward J. Cattel, stotistieian, of the City of Philadelphia: "This is a time 6f crisis, my friends^ let us meet it like true Americans—depending on the great spiritual forces as weU as the more obvious material powers. You know all about our old Liberty BeU in Philadelphia, and how we all love it. One evening last June I happened to be down at Independence Hali aroand nine o'clock, when the ringing of thc ne-iiv beJl had been ordered. Well, after the bel) had been rung, and the ^watehman was closing up the place, I happened to come along there, and I heard a dispute between thc watchman and a sailor. The sailor was one of the fiaest .specimens of man¬ hood that I have ever seen, about 6 ft. 2. I spoke to the watchman and asked him whnt the trouble was. l^e said that the sailor wanted to see th* Liberty Bell, and that he was unable to let him see it because the place had been locked up, and ho could not let him in, because it was after hours. I said to the sailor: "Can't yon come tomorrow morning when Inde¬ pendence Hall is open?'' He answered: "That is impossible. I sail at 5 o'cloclj in the morning on the converted German cruiser—now an American man-of-war. Wc are going direct into the danger zone. I only reached P.Hikidelphia at si.K o'clock this evening from my home in Wisconsin. I have never been in Philadelphia before. My mother was a Philadelphian and ali her life she tolked to me of her Bible and the Liberty Bell. "They were the mos* sacred things in her life. My father died when I was a young boy and mother ond myself have lived aimost like brother and sister. Last April my mother died( and I mn in the Navy today because I believe she wou'.d wish me to be there. I fael that I will be closer to my mother if I am in the Navy than if I remain on shore. It will help me if I see the bell. Isn't it pos!5ible?" I siid: "It is possible, and you shall see the bell." I took him around to the opposite side of the hall and knocked at the •door. The night watchman opened it and I gave him orders to let me enter. I said to him: "You needn't put a light, just leave the door half open an,d the light from the lamppost in the square will give us enough illumination." The sheathing was off the bfell and so I was able to lead the sailor right up to the sacred relic and place his hands upon it. Thinking I could get a little morc light from a window to the west, I stepped into the darcer shadows to draw back the curtoins. When I disappeared, evidently the boy forgot I was there, for when I tumed and he was silhouetted against the open door, I saw he was kneeling in front of the bell. As I watehed, his face lowered until his lips touched tbe bell. Then I heard him say: *^God help me to nuJce good." That boy was nearer tbe mother he had loved and lost at that moment than he wiU ever be again until he meeto her before the throne of God. That is the spirit in which our boys are going over. That is the spirit in which they are oifering their lives te defend eur liberty. Oed help us to do our port. God give us strength, we who remain at home, to do everything in ear power to haaten tbe day when eur boya may ratora victorious and the new era of peace on earth, good will toward men may be inaugurated. I have no doubt as to the reault of the war, becanse, beUering that tfae principles for which "Old Glory" stands are God-given, I belive with equal fervor they will be God^rotoctod. THIRD LIBERTY BOND BUYl^ Ttm aobaeribera reported from Liberty Loas Headqaarters to dato ai« aa follows: StOi&a M. Anderaon Roth S. Appleton Arnold Appleton Netae Alston Florence E. Asch Joaeph A. Asch John Boach, jr. Ua B. Baer Chua B. Bacon Gertrude V. Brown WiUiam Baldwin Martha Burnett H. D. Badger Frances Baird Henry P. Baird Charity Baird Aliee M. Corwiii Edmond Cheshira EiaUne Coward James A. Coward Etto L. Ouikshank Lottie A. Dikeman Harry C. Dikeman Daniel F. Dikeman John Patrick DoBierty Mr. and Mn. Dooley .AJice S. DarisBon Arthar P. Daviaaon Wm. A. DcFraitoi LiUiaa E. DoFraltaa Bdith DidtanKHi ibtfgoorite Dotd Janua Deaa • F. Woslay DavUa Fannie E. Devlin Grace C. ElUaon Austin A*. Ellison Huyler B. ElUaon Clara E. FitaSlmoaa Charles W. Fischej- Maria J. Gale Sarah Hewlett Charlotte R. Heaa Albert Howard Haa>monV|ctor M John Hitchcock M. Looiae Hammond Charles H. Hall Richard W. Hart August Helleberg Mary B. Johnson Nellie L. Keogh P. J. Keiman Mr^ George E. Kneisto Sarah Kalban Jennie Kamp Cecilia Kato WiUiam F. Kraft, jr. Edward B. Lent Alice P. Lent Alfred B. Lent Virginia C Lent EUaaboth G. Maekay Donald S. Maekiy Laaratta M. Moday H. AncoiKa Modar MarcoMt Kaiaolbadi A. K. water Dorothy Tajrior Mackay Austin I Mashacher Werner Nycren Welhebnina C Nygren Alfred M. Nygren Elsa C. Nygren Signe S. M. Nygren Sara a Nygren Fred Pitterman Prokofrieff AAram V. Pidrford Lewia H- Post Joeeph PoUzzo Amelia Polisso Harry Boae WiUet W. Haynor Dorothy R. Rose Elmira H. Shady Williaffi Schoh Reginay Heber Scob Est May C. Seaman William C. Smith Helen Sehlater Ambroae SehiUer Anna L. Shea Helen ML Sealy WilUam H. Schnei>ier j Charlea M. Thoms > Caddia Von TUaer ^ Bart G. Wray I Xatia WUtabaad I WonuB'a m Corpa UW Enwtt a WiHata I Hon. Fred C. Hieka will speak at a Mam Meeting held at thc Liberty Loan Headquarters in front cf the Freeport Clnb on April 16th, 1918, at 8 P. M. Mr. Hicks has a message from the trenches for the people of the United Btatea. He, haring jnst returned from the front visiting our soldiers in France.^ Mr. Hicks saw our boys under fire and noted their behayior. Fred C. Hicks has been recognised by the Ooremment and tbe people of this country, as one of our great orators, and a treat is in store for all those that can arrange to hear him speak. The Liberty Loan Committee are trying to arrange for Ser¬ geant Empey of "Over the Top," to address the meeting. A big parade is being arranged as Colonel Moss of the 367th Infantry (colored) from Camp Upton has kindly donated the serrice ot U)$ir band for the parade ahd a concert. This colored band is tb9 largest band in the United States railitarj- service, and has become most famotis. The parade will start at 7:30 P. M., at the Freeport Club, aud will go south on Grove Street to Pine Street; north on Pine ^treot to Long Beach Avenue; south on Long Beach Avenue to the Merrick Koad; east on Merrick.Road to Main Btreet; up Main Street to Railroad Avenue; then to Grove Street; north on Grove Street; north on Grove Street to Lena Avenue; east on Lena Avenne to Main Street and south on Maiu Street to Rail¬ road Avenue, tlien to the speakers' stand. The following organizatiouK will form on the sonth side of Olive Boulevard, east of Grove Street: 1—The Band, 367th Regiment 2—Veterans, under Commander William H..Patterson 3—Boy Scouts, Troop No. 1, under Scoutmaster Geo. Westcott Troop No.:,',under Scoutmaster Herman Gissell Troop No. .3, under Scoutmaster 4—Village Board 5—Liberty Loan Committee, Alfred T. Davison 6—Red Croes, Mrs. Henry L. Maxson 7—JuQior Service Jjeague, Miss* Helen Wicks ' H—Boys' Military Training Class, Lieut. Goggit 9—Firemen, John J. Randall, jr. 10—Business Men, Stephen P. Pettit 11—Home Defense, Capt. F. G. Hill 12—Elks, Leo Fishel. 13—Citizens All other organizations are invited to take part. Mrs. Maxson Heaids 'Changes in Main Street tbe Red OrtMsj Red Estate Holdings At a special meeting of the Free- Following the announcement last port Red Cross Tuesday afternoon ^^^ ^hat Henry Gobeto had sold his Mrs. H. L. Maxson waa unanimously elected chairman to succeed Mrs. Sid¬ ney H. Swezey, who had declined to lerve longer. Mrs. Swezey was el¬ ected to the Executive Board to suc- -•eed Rev. S. O. Curtice, who is leav¬ ing Freeport. Mrs. Ma.xson, who is the wife of Village Trustee Maxson, has been jthe viU^ge. have grown up with active in the Red Cross work since its l^j,^ ^j,,^ ^"j ^j^^ ^^^^ interested organization, and has devoted much of.. •_ ,." ","_,""" her time to th« work B^^j, ^^ j,, j^ ^^^tinued as at The new officers will take office at Main Street store to Mr. Kerr, comes the announcement of the purchase by Charles C. Copeiand of Bergen Place of the Charles P. Seaman property on the eame block. Mr. Copeiand wili improve the property. Both Messrs. Gobetz and Seaman ; are among the oldest merchants of MEBRIOk^ Tbto lulsiB li ptem hg Ba«. W. PL. UH lilfssg ami aanamm (kMU b* MM teSEi Serrieea at the Chareh of tha ¦»- doentCT Saaday, the Sooead Ailer Eaater. at 11 A. M. aad 8 oVsleek F. M. Momifur Prayer aad Sveniac Prayer aad aerrooo. The Saaday SdMot moeta fas tiw FtaUh Hooae oadb Baaday at 10 A. M. 1W Woouua'a AoxiUary aiaata wuhly em Thorwiaya at IM P. M. CMr gate tioo ia held Thoraday ovaafaca at 8 o'clock. TlM G. F. 8. aioota M-waak- ly oa Fridaya at 8 P. M. Hm Bby Scooto, C A. Calkias, 8ooatq»aa|tr, meet on Toeodaya at tM F. FL A cordial iairitatk» ia extended to alt to attend tbe aerrieoa of tibia tAneth and to become identified with tta munity interesta. Mr. aad Mrs. Roed MMmor re¬ tomed on Taeeday from ^tt Sooth whera they have spent the kii two months at Pabn Beach, Fla. m ¦ Frank Wolfe and family have ro- tomod to thdr home on Hempatead Boulevard i^ter spending the winter months tb Brooklyn. WANTAGH Iho regular April meeting at the Free- port Club the last Tueaday of the month. far as announcement The Freeuoort Branch acknowledges with thanks the following contribu¬ tions: Mrs. Albert Hutton 530 Club, Mrs. Knobel, treas. Mrs. J. Gilbert Smith Mrs. Charles E. Raynor (monthly contribution) Mrs. Henry L. Maxson (monthly contribution) Rusaell Park Knitting Circle Mrs. G. K. Cheney, Treas., (monthly contribution) Mrs. 7red E. Story (monthly contribution) Surgical Dressings Classes under direction of Miss Gladys B. Story 24.00 present made. The asking price for thi property, including an entrance from Merrick Road, waa $25,000. Mra. Charlea Schafer, who haa aM ed the Nassau County Revierw as ou Wantagh correspondent, writes frc.11 Saranac Lake the foTlowin-,: leC<-.«r which we are sure will intJ'rest nUvuy of onr readers: Saranac Lake, S. Y. April <<. 1918. Dear Mr. Pearaall:— We arrived here test Tuesday or rather Wednesday, 2 a, m.., as x^-e were delayed 7 hours by a molass<.>a tank car wrecked just ahead of U3. The weather is certainly beaotiful here now and most all the snow gore, only on the mountains. We aro aitu¬ ated on a beautiful high hill Juat op¬ posite Slide Mountain and Mt. Baker, and we can see "Old Whito Face" at Lake Placid right to the north of ua. On Saturday we went to town aa they had a Red Crosa and patriotic parade, after which services wero held at the village square. A beautiful service flag with 146 stars was on- furled and the school children sang the Star Spangled Banner. There were several very flne speakers: Maj¬ or Cluett, Mr. Palmer, village praal¬ dent, also Mr. Wiggins from Masaa- chusetts, of the Federal Bank, and Mrs. Dr. Baldwin, who spoke for tha Red Cross, of which therfe is a verf large chapter here. Mrs. Rndfleld, aa F.nglish lady, recited our beautiful hymn, "The Battle Hyjnn of the Sa- puhlie." It sure did sound' pood and she was a. wonderful speaker. Tha applause was deafening. They have a big fire department, which would interest you, also a busi¬ ness men's band end Home Defense GiiarJ, all of w.hiph tool; part in tha parade, alao the school children. It g ^j^jwas certainly one {jloricus aig^X. Arts Ciub to Elect $100 ' '^^^ ttnnual meeting of the Free- iIqq i port Arts Club will be held at tho j]q() home of Mrs. Alfred T. Davison, 110 Pine Street, Monday afternoon, April 15, at S, o'clock. l.OO 1.00 1.60 5.00 There will bo services ab usual in the Memorial Church Sunday, both morning and evening?, and .Sunday School at 2:30 p. m. The Christian Endeavor will mtet in the chureh Friday evening at 8 o'clock. Tho topic of the lesson will be "How to Enjoy Sunday;" leader, Miss Nellie Seymour. Total $36.60 Kindly make checks payable to Freeport Branch, American Red Cross, and send to Mrs. Alfred T. Davison, IIS Pine Street, Freeport, L. L A circle of women of Russell Park, the northeastern section of our vil¬ lage, have banded together under tbe leadership of Mrs. George K. Cheney, to kait for the Red Cross. There are foarteen members of the circle and they plan to meet once a week at the homes of the different members, pay¬ ing a 10-cent tax each week. The moaey will be given to the Red Cross weekly and thua be a regular contri¬ bation to the work. This is a splen¬ did precedent and quite worthy of imitation in ether parta of the village. Weekly Weaker Report (For our readers in other localities) Friday, April 6—Freezing at night, cold in a. m., getting warmer daring day. Saturday, saiae, nice Spring day. •Sunday, cool, clear. .^ Monday, clear, warmer. Taesday, light rain continuing at intervals all day. Wedneaday, rain eoQtinoinc, oaat storm, with vnnd, toraln«;, to anow in p. m. Thursday, ground Ii|,4it}y covered with snow, rain and aloahy in morn¬ inc, bitter eas^i: wind. Tho placa to boy ooaL tUnelalr Rayaor. 8 No. Maia St, talopfaoaa 184 Frfoport Gibson President of the Freeport Club At the annual meeting of the Free- port Club Tuesday evening Sidney V. Gibson was elected President to suc¬ ceed Elvin N. Edwards, who declined, because of pressure of business, to serve for another term. There was no opposition to the one ticket regularly nominated and the other officers were duly elected, as follows: Vice president, Forrest S. Dunbar; secretary, L. S. Mabee; treasurer, Raymond J. Miller; direct¬ ors, for two years, E, N. Edwards, M. N. Milbank, W. F. Comell, C. M. Hart; for one year, L. D. Pickford. The nominating committee for next year was also named—N. T. Cole, G. A. H. Smith, E. T. Cheshire, W. B. Austin, Smith F. Pearsall, Joseph A. Asch and Jamea A. Sotphin. At the meeting of the Good Cheer Club, held at the home of Mrs. Jennie Siems last Tuesday, the following officers were elected: Jeanette Van Nostrand, presiUint; Florence Box, vice president; Er.iily Box. trfnsurer; Mattie Box, assistant treasurer; Jen¬ nie Siein.s, secretary: Helen Jackson, assistant secretory. We were sorry to hear that George Box, who i.s at Camp Wadsworth, Spartanburg, S. C, has been conflned to the base hospital with thc measles and we all hope for his speedy re* covery. Word has been received that Paul Lang arrived safely *'Over There." Quwiges in Coal Firms The coal business of the Freeport Ice A Fuel Co. has been teken over by the William J. Martin Coal Co., Inc., and they have offices at the plant on Bennington Avenue. R. E. Dona¬ ghy, formerly with the J. P. Morgan Co., has token charge of the oflice here. The supper by the Jjwlies' Aid So¬ ciety which was to have been haM Tuesday night, was poatponed until Tharaday evening on account of tho Liberty Loan parade in Boltaaore oa Tuesday evening. For ease and comfort uar Wamea't E-Z Koahion Shoa ia onaxeoUed. We havo it in both plain too and tip ia a laeo ahoo and in an oxford. Prieaa 1440 and 84.00. Creviiaermt'a, U So. Mate ft Mfe* Friinn Nowa am Faiga S kanaoo*. Sunday School Attendance Contest FoUowing are the percentage rec¬ orda made last Sunday by the schooia engaged in this contest: FREEPORT Baptist 69 Spiseopai Lutheran Presbyterian Methodiat BALDWIN Methodist Lutheran ROCKVILLE CENTRE Presbyterian Methodiat Baptiat Lutheraa Laat Wednesday the Ladiea' Aid Society held a thimble party at tha home of Mrs. Wilbar F. Soathard. The Good Cheer Clob will moot with Miss Anna Grimm naxt Taaaday, April 16th. Friday Euchre a Sncoeia The euchre, pinochle and daoea fbr the benefit of the Charch of Oar Hoif Redeemer, undtr the auspieae of th^ Ladies' Auxiliary, waa a deckled suo- cess, both financially and aottiklly. Many handsome prises were given to players and non-playurs. Mrs. (3iac Hervey, chairwoman, was comptt- meatad on the success of her ^attk ^ The refreshmente ander tho diraetlMi' of Mrs. A. Schiller war* eajoyod hf alL The movie furalahod, by VaCl' Buskirk's orchestra, for dandoc e, moch approcialod. 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BOHPM51 WBUC UBRMS «*«<y <© A V Island Trees Serving Beth page - Piainview - Island Trees - Plainedge - Seaford Old Bethpage Vol. 5 No. 10 Thursday, January 7, 1971 10c par copy Old Landmark Destroyed Nassau County Medical Society • F M i . . jtf \ HIIWill'ilTlifflrililiilil' t — ^ — — • — — n n — m n i M i i « i ' m i i « .iiin ih .'••' Urges Abortion Amendments Bethpage Firemen began the New Year fighting a fire that totally destroyed- structure behind a Bethpage Landmark, Anselmi's Restaurant, Jan. 1,1971. Despite severe snow conditions, fire department responded immediately* Photos by Ken Hollins Burke Names New Assistant Town Supervisor John W. Burke announced Tuesday that Owen B. Walsh, a 40-year-old attorney from Syosset, has been appointed to a position with the Town as Burke's executive assistant. Walsh, who resides at 30 Hickman Street with his wife, Dorothy, and three children, has been serving in a non salaried position as first Chairman of the Town's Planning Advisory Board since that body was created by Burke last June. "I have known Owen Walsh for many years, " Burke said, "but I have been increasingly impressed by him since I began working closely with the Planning Advisory Board." Walsh is presently Assistant General Counsel to two national corporations wherein he directs efforts of attorneys in 38 states and seven provinces of Canada. His legal background reflects a skill in assembling data for detailed analysis, determining essentials, preparing succinct reports and planning future action, notes a town official. Walsh is a member of the Special Panel of Mediators, Fact- Finders and Arbitrators for the States of New York and New Jersey and he is past president (three terms) of the East Meadow Board of Education, one of the largest school districts in New York State. He was graduated from Hof-stra University where he was selected for Who's Who in American Colleges & Universities in 1952, and earned his law degree at New York University. Walsh was honored by Hofstra as Alumnus of the Year in 1970 for his outstanding community service. He has also been honored by the Nassau-Suffolk District Council, Jewish War Veterans, for unstinting effort and devotion towards the youth of the community. Pointing to the dangers of "abortion facilities which are not subject to inspection or regulation''', the Nassau County Medical Society has adopted a resolution calling for abortions in the County to be performed only at State-certified hospitals or hospital-related facilities by qualified physicians. , It also urged the New York State' Legislature to amend the State abortion law to include this , provision and to prohibit abortions after the 20th" week of pregnancy, except when the mother's life is involved. The Executive Committee of the Society, which represents 2200 physicians in Nassau County, adopted the resolution after extensive study. The Medical Society said that abortions should be performed only at State-certified hospitals arid hospital-related facilities because "abortion is a medical procedure with the possibility of complication." The Medical Society's resolution stated that, should the Legislature fail to act on these two recommended changes in the abortion law, the Society will ask for legislation on the County level to provide inspection of abortion facilities and other safeguards to the public. Tobay Seeks Abortion Control Supervisor John W. Burke directed Town Attorney Bernard F. McCaffrey Tuesday to prepare a proposed local law for a public hearing to control the use of medical buildings and other facilities as "abortion centers'1! in the 'Town. Burke said he was hopeful the Town Attorney would have the proposed legislation ready for a public hearing within a month. The Supervisor claimed the move was prompted by the Town Board's concern for the health; safety and welfare of the Town residents. "The Town Board is not attempting to circumvent the .law of the State of New York relating to abortions,-'* Burke said, "but rather to see to it that abortions are performed only in facilities having the proper accreditation from State and local health authorities, such as County and State Departments of Health as well as the State Hospital Review and Planning Council. "While pregnancy termination might be considered a minor operation by some" Burke added, "there is always a possibility of complications developing which a local medical center of (Continued On Page 5) Dr. Leo Fishel, president of the Medical Society, pointed out that there is "great danger in the establishment of abortion facilities which are not subject to inspection or regulation, which do not have adequate facilities or personnel to handle unexpected emergencies, which do not have to report to, or be accountable to, any local or state health agency. "Hospitals and hospital-related facilities, which have met the certification requirements of Article 28 of the State Public Health Law, are subject to inspection and have proper facilities for emergency situations", he said. The portion,, of the Medical Society's resolution caiiing for-a change in the maximum number of weeks an abortion can be performed from the 24 weeks now in the State law to 20 weeks was based on the medical hazards involved in an advanced state of pregnancy. The resolution stressed that "the aboriion procedure be done before the twelfth week of pregnancy; that any consideration of interruption between twelve and twenty weeks be thoroughly reviewed, and adequate consultations be obtained; that no interruption be done after the twentieth week of pregaancy except in those cases which require medical termination of pregnancy for conditions that would cause im- *** minent death of the mother." Dr. Thomas Sheehy, chairman of the Medical Society's committee on abortion policy, pointed out that "it was expected that most abortions would be performed without complication, but since July 1st, when the law went into effect, it has been found that there have been a surprising number of people with such complications as infection, perforation of the uterus, hem-morrhage, thrombo-phlebitis and hysterectomy. "The risks of permanent sterility and menstrual disorders are also present," he noted. "Experience has shown that the . safest * period to perform an abortion is up to the twelfth week of pregnancy. Different ttbortioa techniques which are more . hazardous to the mother are needed from the twelfth to sixteenth weeks, and from the sixteenth to twentieth weeks." The- Society further recommended that hospitals and doctors performing abortions receive "informed consent" from their patients and that the patients be told in advance of the possible health complications which might result from abortions. The Society also urged all instiuttions in Which abortions are performed to have a program insuring adequate birth control and family counseling'to limit the requests for abortions. Nassau County Executive Ralph G. C a s o delivers h is inaugural address following induction ceremonies on New Y e a r ' s Day in the Central J u r y Room in t h e new Supreme Court Building. More t h a n 600 b r a v e d heavy snowfall to a t t e n d affair. Also inducted were County Comptroller Angelo D. Roncallo and County Clerk Harold McConnell.
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M6 in Cumbria death crash pair named
Last updated at 12:00, Sunday, 24 February 2013
POLICE have named two drivers who died in a crash on the M6 in Cumbria yesterday.
A number vehicles were involved in a collision in traffic at around 8.15am on Monday near the Lancaster Canal bridge north of Burton-in-Kendal services.
Today police have confirmed two men from Lancashire died.
The driver of the SPAR lorry has been formally identified as Alan Walmsley, 62, of Mardale Road, Longridge, Preston.
The driver of the blue flat lorry has been formally identified as Michael Raymond Proctor, 22, of Salisbury Street, Southport.
Following the removal of several vehicles, including several lorries, a police accident investigation and clearance of debris from the scene, lanes two and three of the carriageway re-opened at 6.45pm.
The carriageway has been resurfaced and was fully open again well ahead of the morning's peak travel period.
More than twenty emergency service vehicles attended and police have confirmed that the following eight vehicles were involved:
- A yellow heavy goods vehicle.
- A red Volvo heavy goods vehicle.
- A dark coloured Peugeot 307 which was driven by a woman from Lancaster and was trapped between the yellow HGV and red Volvo HGV. She suffered serious injuries that are not believed to be life threatening at this time.
- A white Mercedes flatbed heavy goods vehicle.
- A silver Renault traffic van driven by a man who has been taken to Preston Royal Infirmary by air ambulance.
- A silver Volkswagen golf which suffered damage from the debris of the collision. The occupant was uninjured.
First published at 09:18, Monday, 25 February 2013
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For those of us who constantly use the the motorway system,it's a wonder there are not many more fatalities.
Who's to blame,the motorway system is out
dated,we need four lanes,with the two inside lanes for heavy goods and slow vehicles,with the out side lanes for fast moving vehicles.
Longer stretches of access for leaving the motorway instead of tail backs that can sometimes back up on to the motorways.
Most motorways were not built for todays capacity,and lorries are going to get bigger to carry heavier loads.
My sympathy to the families.
Nicola, I donât usually stand up for the Evening Mail but as this article was probably given to the paper as a statement and also the fact that this article does not name your father or the driver of any of the other vehicles or give registrations how can it cause distress?On another note I hope your Father and anyone else involved makes a full recovery itâs never nice when these things happen
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- Vision without implementation is hallucination.
- Anonymous proverb, as quoted in Counterpoint, Vol. 2-3 (1991), p. 22 by Ravaya Publishers; sometimes attributed to Bertrand Russell and Benjamin Franklin on the internet, but without any citation of source.
- And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.
- The Bible, Book of Joel, chapter 2, verse 28.
- Not so many years ago this was a mistake that brain scientists actually made: they succumbed all too often to the temptation to treat vision as if it were television — as if it were simply a matter of getting "the picture" from the eyes to the screen somewhere in the middle where it could be handsomely reproduced so that the phenomena of appreciation and analysis could then get underway. Today we realize that the analysis — the whatever you want to call it that composes, in the end, all the visual understanding — begins right away, on the retina; if you postpone consideration of it, you misdescribe how vision works.
- Daniel C. Dennett, "Facing Backwards on the Problem of Consciousness" Journal of Consciousness Studies, 3 (1), 1996, pp. 4-6.
- Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare.
- Japanese proverb, as quoted in Civilization's Quotations : Life's Ideal (2002) by Richard Alan Krieger, p. 280.
- Then purg'd with euphrasy and rue
The visual nerve, for he had much to see.
- John Milton, Paradise Lost (1667; 1674), Book XI, line 414.
- Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
- Book of Proverbs, 29:18 (KJV)
- Variant translation: Without a vision, the people perish.
- Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others.
- Jonathan Swift, as attributed in Escape the Pace : 100 Fun and Easy Ways to Slow Down and Enjoy Your Life (2004) by Lisa Rickwood, no earlier source yet located.
- For any man with half an eye,
What stands before him may espy;
But optics sharp it needs I ween,
To see what is not to be seen.
- John Trumbull, McFingal (1775-1782), Canto I, line 67.
Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations[edit]
- Quotes reported in Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations (1922), p. 707.
- And finds with keen, discriminating sight,
Black's not so black—nor white so very white.
- George Canning, New Morality.
- And for to se, and eek for to be seye.
- Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales, The Wife of Bath, Preamble, line 6,134.
- The age, wherein he lived was dark; but he
Could not want sight, who taught the world to see.
- John Denham, Todd's Johnson.
- The rarer sene, the lesse in mynde,
The lesse in mynde, the lesser payne.
- Barnaby Googe, Sonnettes, Out of Syght, Out of Mynde.
- See and to be seen.
- Ben Jonson, Epithalamion, Stanza 3, line 4. Oliver Goldsmith, Children of the World, Letter 71.
- And every eye
Gaz'd as before some brother of the sky.
- Homer, The Odyssey, Book VIII, line 17. Pope's translation.
- For sight is woman-like and shuns the old.
(Ah! he can see enough, when years are told,
Who backwards looks).
- Victor Hugo, Eviradnus, IX.
- Two men look out through the same bars:
One sees the mud, and one the stars.
- Frederick Langbridge, In A Cluster of Quiet Thoughts; published by the Religious Tract Society.
- He that had neither beene kithe nor kin,
Might have seene a full fayre sight.
- Thomas Percy, Reliques of Ancient Poetry, Robin Hood and Guy of Gisborne.
- Monstrum horrendum, informe, ingens, cui lumen ademptum.