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- Hunter Lots
- Syracuse, UT
- United States
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What can we do to change education?
My name is Hunter. I am a senior in High School and my english class recently watched this video.
This question was asked to me by a teacher to me back in 9th grade. His take on this was that there should not be an A - F grading scale because all kids do is shoot for an A. That's all. Nothing past that. All they need is an A to make everyone happy. I agree with this statement 100%. The problem is, how do we fix this? What scale can we use in order to make schooling more beneficial to future students? How do we get students to reach their full potential?
Kip Price
May 5 2013: When I was in HS, I had a similar problem, where kids were taking lower level classes because succeeding (meaning getting an A or B) in an easier class was more rewarding to your GPA than taking harder classes and challenging ways of thoughts.
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I have a lot of thoughts about education, but my biggest complaint about the system is not so much the grades but the way it is taught. Sir Robinson got it right when he claimed that schools stymied creativity: they absolutely do. What's worse, I think, is the way we treat creativity as limited to a certain set of subjects (visual art, music, dance, etc). I'm a computer science major, and when I was in high school, I hated programming. I thought math was (mostly) a waste of time. I knew how to work with computers, but because I was making games instead of interest calculators, I was told that I would have to change my mindset so as to treat software development as clinical, boring, and not-at-all-useful. It was only after I started programming as a job rather than as a student that I realized that creativity is not only encouraged in CS, it is required. And I think the same thing applies to the other STEM paths.
I guess what I see as the solution is a more hands-on, kid oriented approach to education. Forget grades, if you build a classroom that allows children to explore what they are interested in, motivation will come naturally. When you're a kid, you make baking soda volcanoes or learn how to bake bread and suddenly you're fascinated with chemistry. But then, in school, you don't make things explode or taste good. You write equations and read textbooks designed for accuracy rather than ability to inform. That should change. We should be teaching experimentation first and formulas second. And from that, we will develop generations of kids who love what they do and are inspired to explore it further.
Torn Halves
May 1 2013: Perhaps the first step is to see that education is not just about school. However we try to reform schools and formal educational establishments, what goes on there can only supplement and build on an education provided outside school, both in the family, through the media and in other parts of society that children come into contact with.
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The BIG problem is that the culture we have now is fundamentally anti-education in that there is no longer any shared search for the True and the Good. Although there is a lot of easy talk on the TED stage about things like a learner revolution made possible by the new tech, there won't actually be a revolution in education until there is something like a cultural renaissance, with a rebirth of the older concerns for truth and goodness as shared values in terms of which we consent to live.
May 1 2013: You make an interesting point that attitude toward education, toward being educated, and toward educated people affects the priority people give to learning and the opportunities they have for learning, regardless of what technology may afford them..
Torn Halves
May 2 2013: Yes, Mr Reisner. My own experience as a teacher left me feeling that the aspirations I had in class for the students were continually being undermined by the very powerful culture outside school. The new tech does nothing to change that situation.
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May 2 2013: I have been lucky as a teacher to be able almost always to stimulate a high level of motivation in students. I notice this phenomenon, actually, more in the general population- that there is a bias often against, or suspicion of, educated people, professors, research scientists, and so forth. This bias affects lifelong learning but also is communicated to children.
An example might be when people have convinced themselves that scientists haven't found a cure for cancer because there isn't enough money in it or because they are consumed by petty rivalries, or some such theory. Blame comes easier than recognizing that some mysteries are hard to crack, even by the best of minds.
Another example is when people discount research by specialists or those knowledgable in in a field whenever it doesn't fit in with their own conceptual biases.
The stereotype that teachers go into their work only for the vacations or the money is another belief many people hold. We at least used to have a participant here who frequently claimed to know loads of teachers and never to have met a single one who liked to learn herself or who was not in it for the money. It has become hip (is the word still used?) in many settings to think of teachers as the enemy of learning.
All these kinds of attitudes stand in the way of people's being able to learn from those who may know more in an area than they do or who may have a different way of looking at a problem or subject.
In education, there is, and, I think, always will be experimentation with different ways of meeting the needs of learners with diverse needs. Labeling some players in this effort as villains may feel satisfying for some people- a simple diagnosis, but I don't think it is valid or productive. Tyler Cowen's TED talk is about how humans are wired to be attracted to the good versus evil simplifying narrative.
hank apple
May 1 2013: The top 3 things we need to do to change education are:
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1. Get parents involved
2. Get parents involved
3. Get parents involved
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Education must be about preparing our children for life - whatever life they think will serve them best.
Education (K-12) CANNOT have as it's primary goal to get everyone into college (we all know of highly educated CEO's that are idiots and other people with GED's that are building very successful companies).
An essential role of Educators is teaching children not only HOW to learn, but they must also instill the desire to want to continue learning throughout their life.
We must reinstate the apprentice program for virtually all fields of study. And no, it probably WON'T require more Teachers and more money because Teachers will be able to spend ALL of their time teaching rather than being referees and disciplinarians for otherwise bored students. As far as resources - we have the entire WEB available - if a Teacher and her student can't find the resources they need there (probably for free). odds are they didn't really need it anyway!
Stop teaching to tests - a good Teacher does not need a standardized test to know if a student is succeeding.
Teaching must once again become an honored profession, not merely a low-paying job.
By the way, I am new to TED and I am amazed at the fundamental common sense offered here.
TED should be required reading for all Executives and Politicians, if for no other reason than to keep them in touch with the REAL world.
May 5 2013: It would not be all that difficult to organize TEDx events at the legislatures around the country. Educate the politicians on issues like health, education and the environment by bringing speakers to address local concerns. Law makers are far from experts in any of these fields and would benefit greatly from new cutting edge ideas.
May 5 2013: Unfortunately, politicians get their educated ideas from the lobbyists and benefit greatly from said influences.Apr 30 2013: My name is Clark, I am also in High School.
A) There are several things to consider about school reform. The biggest problem in my opinion, is the attempted quantification of students. There is no way for a teacher to know all the variables that students are conflicted with. Plus, the idea that students have to conform to teacher ideas and teaching methods is ridiculous, for instance I'm slightly above average for IQ yet I am still a C student. Therefore i submit there no grades should be applied to students, after all it is the job of the teachers to teach the students, not for students to become smaller versions of their teachers. In a very interesting talk (unfortunately I forget who) but it talked about School Killing Creativity, which according to Einstein is the most important element that one could posses. That occurs because students have to submit to their teachers and their wishes and not the other way around. If there are no grades... how then are the school system going to measure students? They won't. If college becomes public funded then every student should be accepted into it. After that period, let tests tell how much students know and have learned. B) As a culture, the United States has to encourage the idea of self made though hard work and hard studying. C) We have to change the idea that the objective for school is to become college professors (which are needed) but to become successful in whatever job market students decide to affiliate with. D)encourage the use of study hall and other programs like it... if students what to learn it, then let them come and learn more instead of having teachers cram information at a staggering rate down students esophagus... which students will be less likely to try and understand or even comprehend or even question the information given to them E) teach critical thinking and encourage curiosity so that students might take the information and research it at their own time. F)Quit thinking that $ will solve itApr 27 2013: Allow people to dip into and out of education as a life long process. Teenagers get very bored and frustrated with schooling - what a waste of time and energy. Let them take a job in a store for a year or two and they'll come back into education hungry to improve themselves.Apr 20 2013: another thing to add, i think its easier for us to change the attitude of the students rather than changing education as a whole. we just have to make people more interested to find out about different topics on their own
Apr 20 2013: Which is a lot harder than it seems. lol
Rachel Dahl
Apr 30 2013: Throw Away Answer Keys & A "Less is More" approach to Education Reform is Absolutely Necessary!
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For some reason, we think that more HW, more pages, more writing, more details, equals better-equals smarter. This is simply not true. Rather, more emphasis must be placed on the quality and methodology of the learning process not just on the quantity.
Answer Keys desensitize teachers from being allowed to evaluate their students work based on creativity and ingenuity.
Answer Keys remind students that their individual ideas do not matter.
Answer Keys teach students to get really good at cheating and really bad at thinking.
Answer Keys turn enthusiastic motivated educators into assembly line red pen X makers.
Answer Keys snuff out brilliant minds at a very young age.
Answer Keys turn risk takers into passive thinkers.
Answer Keys continue to perpetuate the myth that our current standard of education actually works and will continue working for future generations.Apr 29 2013: First they need to understand they are in charge of their own self development and their own potential .Apr 12 2013: On the most basic level it comes down to motivation. A motivated learner can do well in poor circumstances and an unmotivated one will achieve little even in a very good school. It follows that the ideal school would create conditions that motivate virtually every student. Finland apparently does this better than most. How? Their emphasis seems to be on the needs of each child. Much recent research points to different learning styles and further, to as many as seven different types of intelligence within each brain that appear to be able to function discreetly. The factory model school, as Ken Robinson points out, tends to treat children as empty containers with more or less intelligence and thus capacity to be filled with knowledge. The belief that a very intelligent person could do anything, and that a less intelligent one nearly nothing, is deeply rooted in Western Culture. Thoughtful observation refutes this. We all know people who are able to do one or more things very well with enormous gaps in between and others who can do a lot of things quite well but still have important deficits. A true polymath may not really exist The Classic Greek, Roman and Medieval models of the trivium and gymnasium all emphasized rhetoric, the command of languages and capacity for memorization of accepted truths. Basically the lawyer model. People with these skills still tend to rise to the top of Academia because they are still accepted as the hallmarks of "true intelligence". I think we need to stop viewing children as generic raw ore to be ground down, smelted and poured into square molds. Instead we need to view them as unique gemstones that must be individually studied in order to help them reach their potential.
Apr 10 2013: That's easy, when it comes to public schools, get rid of school boards. What other major organizational governing body can you cite that would have on it's board publicly elected members with no experience in the field? What 'business' would have on it's board someone with no business experience? What public 'scientific' organization would we support that had no scientific skill requirement for board members? What public medical board would we put people with no professional medical experience? 0, or at the extreme 'wide-viewpoint' approach, a token member with complimentary experience. Education is a highly complex, extremely well researched discipline with employees with the highest level of specific education compared with any other group. Yet, we hire 'neighborhood folks' to be their bosses and make policy decisions and give them half of our tax dollars to spend in their buildings. We wonder why teachers and administrators are discouraged - even in high performing, affluent districts. And another thing :), the 'business' approach, or having 'business' be involved in the decisioning of education, is another mistake. What makes them think they know anything about education? Just because I use a garage doesn't mean I'm a carpenter. "Oh, but we'll just manage the 'business' side of things and let the "professionals" handle the ed part..." Oh sure. Teachers: "Hey mister/ms. board business person, we have this great long-term reading math/reading/language program that all of the research shows had lasting effects but the results don't show for 5 years?" Business board person: "Hmm, I probably won't be on the board in 5 years and my resume needs to show results. So I'm sure there's a 'cheaper more efficient' way to approach this subject - and we all want cheap and efficient, don't we? We have a responsibility to those who elected us, and they want accountability. Plus, I have a colleague who has a 'somewhat similar' program..." Yea. sounds great.
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Yusuf Khan
May 9 2013: To change something we need to first know how it works fundamentally. The syllabus we get thought in schools are based on the way our minds as humans develop with time. This is not specific but a gross generalization! that's our first place to start! if we can cater to teach our children according to their specific developmental capabilities, i feel that we may have a solution to efficiently educating our children! the problem i do find with this is the problem of size, (that's the next problem) not enough teachers to children to attain this! this can in fact be aided by having the children's primary teachers (parents) take a more productive role in their education!May 8 2013: Hunter, I used to be a school teacher and it was really hard work. In fact, most adults don't realize what hard work it really is to do a teacher's job. It is hard work to teach. Especially if you want your students to learn something! Your 9th grade teacher had a point. And she/he cared a lot about your future and your potential. I see this in your teacher's willingness to have asked you this question.
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What do you think about Sir Kenneth? Have you read his Wikipedia entry or visited his web site? Read any of his books? I am not the smartest or the most important guy on this thread. In fact, I have offered about as much here as I am able. But do take the time to engage some of the (other) adults on this thread and find out what they think about things. Also, do comment and ask questions of the adults here. If you don't, they'll take over your thread and leave you entirely out of it! Adults do that sometimes. They can't help themselves. Good luck and work hard.
May 9 2013: Juan, I laughed out loud at "If you don't, they'll take over your thread and leave you entirely out of it!"
Adults have a tendency to take over, when so much can be learned from you kids! Adora Svitak, my new heroin, has so much wisdom on this subject:
May 9 2013: Adora Svitak is awesome! She's the kind of kid I'd like to know. And that much, in that she's the kind of kid that any adult would want to learn from. Optimistic and kind too. Also, very pragmatic in an unexpectedly adult kind of way. I wonder what the adults in her life did; to help her move forward in the way she has. That's the hidden story. As a parent, that might be the story I'd value the most! Kids don't grow up that awesome accidentally. They can, but there's help. Not always, but almost always.
And although I haven't seen the inside of a classroom in 20 years, your note here did strike a nerve. H*E*R*O*I*N*E is the correct spelling. She's your new heroine. New heroin is something else. I am a terrible speller. And when the spell-check doesn't catch it, you can really get some goof-ball sentences. I always doe.
May 9 2013: Juan, absolutely!
I am laughing out loud right now about my obvious typo above! No wonder the spell check didn't catch it! Perhaps it was slightly subconscious - TED and all its inspiration is a sort of drug!May 8 2013: This is very important and critical question in regard of the worldwide education, I'm not fully ware of the education around the world, as I know, it is way better than here in the middle east especially Iraq. One of my greatest dreams is to change the education method in Iraq. it is so old systems, I guess we need too many experts around the world to assess the education in Iraq then they suggest better solutions to develop it.
May 8 2013: I am curious, and I hope with respect that my comments here are welcome. You mention Iraq, and your first name is shared with that of the Holy Prophet of God the Almighty and Merciful. I know that Islam is the faith of most middle eastern nations. And that this faith plays a major role in where, when, and how children are educated. I choose my words carefully out of respect and proper deference to core beliefs and faith held dearly for the sake of our children.
Although Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God, I would be foolish to suggest that we all have not all suffered out of our many differences. Of Respect, I promise to keep that in mind. And so should everyone else on this topic. That is not an issue that anyone should dare to ignore.
My point? I have to leave that open ended. I want to learn more. And the topic here is on the education of children. My first training as a child was in one of several forms of Christian fundamentalism. I did not attend a Catholic University. But some have (perhaps accurately) described my approach to many subjects as very "Jesuit." I like to think before I speak. And I prefer to write because that forces me to think. And if I believe anything, well, I have to think about that too!
With this in mind I ask you: Help me think some more on this subject. Our children deserve that much. As for the rest, may fortune bring you "fair winds and following seas" in all your travels. As for me, anchor's aweigh, underway, making way -- time to paddle my small canoe elsewhere in hopes of a later visit. JV
May 10 2013: Dear Juan,
Many thanks for your interest. Yes Islam is the faith for most of our nations, but we are the most uneducated nation due to the circumstances of the wars, dictators etc.. produced "The Political Islam" it is very far away of real Islam, its create new Islamic thinkers focusing to serve the political government & the dictators, However this situation produced new era of anti-political Islam and that's led to cold civil war between each other costing us the most important think which is as I believe (Education).
Day by day our nation became so radical believers. Education became so difficult, the top universities only for whom supporting the government. most of us were couldn't complete the education due to the circumstances I mentioned above, but now we are looking forward to get better opportunity in education.
May 10 2013: The Islamic/Andalusian States (Spain) were the most advanced states in Europe in the middle ages. The people were educated and diverse. The economy was prosperous. The leaders were tolerant and just. The rest of Europe was constantly at war and locked into meaningless disputes. I believe that education made this prosperity possible.
Before World War Two, the U.S.A. was neither the most prosperous nor the most advanced nation on Earth. The U.S. was well behind Germany, France, and the U.K. After WW II, the U.S. made a major investment in education. All the soldiers returning from the war were guaranteed a college education if they wanted it. 25 years later there are U.S. Astronauts on the moon. A commitment to education made that possible. The U.S.A. is prosperous because the people are educated and productive.
For dictators and totalitarian thinkers, education is not a good thing. Educated citizens have learned how to think. Educated citizens have learned how to question. Educated citizens have learned how to demand change. Educated citizens are difficult to lead. They demand much more from their leaders. Sometimes educated citizens choose to question their religious beliefs. They resist dogma. Educated citizens are less willing to accept simple or intolerant or hateful statements from their religious leaders. Educated citizens are more challenging. The people know how to think for themselves. It is much harder for a dictator to make them crazy for war with false words of hatred. Educated. people are more difficult to frighten. I have never known of a dictator who made education a priority
My hope is that the new nation of Iraq will heal from the past wars. I also hope that the political and religious leaders of Iraq will invest greatly in educating all the people, both men and women.
Today the greatest opportunity for education is with the internet. This is my reason for hope on this issue. The internet is a good place to learn.May 7 2013: Hunter, KUDOS for starting such a thoughtful conversation.
-Start fostering learning in classrooms using children's natural creativity, interest and curiosity.
-Allow every child to bloom and excel.
-Set aside scripts and textbooks that assume the place of a teacher.
-Replace high-stakes tests at state and national levels with authentic assessments determined by the needs of the school districts, schools and classrooms.
-Grades are old school. Get rid of them and replace them with student-created, teacher and parent monitored portfolios.
-Learn how to construct and scaffold upon prior knowledge and free the learner to learn.
-Teach peace in school.
-Shift the paradigm in early education's approach to literacy. Refer to the question I asked in TED Conversations.
make sure students are asked this question because grown ups don't know nearly as much!
Pamela Kewin
May 6 2013: Streaming children to classes of similar ability used to be the norm and now a lot of schools have stopped this and have classes of all abilities. The main problem I see in schools nowadays is that they are too large and so are the classes. How can a teacher be expected to teach classes of more than 30 children when some of them are disruptive because the lessons are geared to the top end of the class?
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I see no problem with mixing abilities in a class but I would say classes of 15 children in this case are a better number. Then the teacher has more time to spend with each child and group work would bring out all kinds of ideas.
I think there should be a grading system because everyone is competitive, it is degrading the ones who have low grades I don't agree with.
I know it would cost more money to employ more teachers but children in small schools are happier and learn easier than in some of the jungles that the government has created. Nowadays, there are children who go to school but as the schools are so large they can skip lessons and no one even notices.
It is the human touch that is lacking, children need to feel protected and valued at school to thrive and that is lacking in so many. The teachers are often so stressed at work that they ignore bullying and spend most of the day wishing for its end so they can go home.
Cure this problem and children will start to improve in schools in a very short time. That is my opinion.May 1 2013: I am Stuart Thomas, I am also a High School in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Although my school is a private school here, I have plenty of friends in southern public school systems. The main issue here at least is the lack of connection of material from one year to the next. I have one story from my sisters roommate who is from rural South Carolina she told us that basically every teacher would teach things that they wanted to without consulting teachers from higher grade levels, a common practice in most good schools throughout the world. She also told us that she didn't know how to read an analogue clock until she was in the fourth grade because it wasn't on their EOG's (End of Grade Tests).
Dino Harrell
Apr 29 2013: "First, do no harm."
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Many physicians recognize that they've failed their first oath - they've become enablers, prescribing pills that mask symptoms so patients can continue their sedentary lives eating junk food - and dying from it. We're smarter and richer than ever before - and sicker than we've ever been.
Educators should see their profession similarly - they teach to tests so students can be certified, all while masking over ever increasing ignorance.
The problems are many, and fundamental.
The notion that education should be separable from the things it teaches was foolish to begin with. It spawned classrooms, teachers, school construction bonds, property taxes, dropouts, ADHD, forced busing, new math, sex ed., evolution or creationism - and more.
Education used to be about learning how to make your living in the world. Apprenticeships paired learning with doing, employers footed the bill, students earned a skill, pride and an income simultaneously. Today we teach, year after year. There is no income. Is it any wonder our kids tire of waiting for a payoff?
We need to stop preaching that the measure of a person's worth is the level of education they have attained, or the income they earn. A skilled tradesman deserves our respect and admiration no less than any PhD, and much more than most. Nor does the person selling whole, organic, local foods, or someone who has proven themselves a good parent, neighbor or friend. Or others.
We need to stop telling our children that unless they go to college they will fail at life. Consider those poor impressionable kids, who in believing this damnable lie transform it into a self fulfilling prophecy. If they believe they'll never have the chance to go to college, what should they do? Drop out? Turn against the society that screwed them? Is it any wonder our urban youth fail?
Why do well educated people say and do such stupid things? It is ironic that modern education is the least intelligent thing we do.Apr 29 2013: Re: How do we get students to reach their full potential?
My suggestion is that you ask your English teacher to watch the TED Talk(s) by Sugata Mitra, this year's TED Prize winner.
Encouragement is all that is needed to help children learn.
That being said, we might try to understand what it is and inhibits the grow of the individual child. Learning is unique to the individual and impediments to learning start early in a child's development. Education often overlooks these issues.
Spencer Hill
Apr 29 2013: The first and foremost thing in education to change is choice. Parents and students should be able to select the school they want to go-vote with their feet. Some schools and systems are so mismanaged it is surprising anyone has a. valid diploma. Money should follow the student, so institutions work for the students best interest instead of being a monopoly for government funds.
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Educators need to recognize that one size doesn't fit all. All students learn differently some phonics work well, others sight reading. Some students thrive in a self paced environment while others need pushed and dragged through key subjects.
You have to have passionate people teaching classes. I love American History , my 9th grade American Studies teacher, a nice woman, made the founding of our country so boring that I hated the class. Along those lines, somethings need to explain why you need to learn it. An example is The Pythagorean Theorem , by itself its just a math problem. Show it in the context of a contractor or a brick mason , it's how he gets his corners square.
Our education system will not improve until we quit trying to ensure equal outcomes in a monopolized system. If our school districts would have to treat parents and students as consumers, we might begin seeing improvements in our schools.
May 1 2013: Your last statement was really loaded and probably touched on the most important problem with OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM. The point is the school administrators and teachers have no incentive , or even prohibited to treat the students as their customers, because the money which is given to the schools comes from either the school districts by their taxing authority or from the state and federal governments. And more importantly all the money have strings attached that are NOT WITH THE STUDENTS" INTEREST IN MIND. The school districts have to satisfy the mandates from the governments. So their hands are tied even if they wanted to improve their efficiency or purpose. For instance, under the "no child (should) be left behind" program, why should the majority of the students suffer the diluted instructions, or the teachers attention be concentrated to a few students who mostly don't have any desire to study regardless how much of the teachers time are devoted to them.
I believe a better solution is, like several previous comments (including yours) suggested, that the money should be appropriated to FOLLOW THE INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS TO WHERE THE STUDENTS CHOOSE TO LEARN ACCORDING TO THEIR CHOICE OF THE PREFERRED LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.
You can see that with this arrangement, even all your previous items could also be solved. as well.
May 1 2013: I concur.Apr 27 2013: I think that you are right Hunter in asking this question. Education needs to be an adventure and not a prison. Our challenge as educators is to create this sense of adventure while at the same time helping each learner to keep growing. Face-it, depending on our personality we need someone to push us to excel. At school this is what marks and exams do. At home, this is what parents do. Our challenge is to push ourselves to new heights - if we as a community can encourage each other to do this without making others feel smaller or inferior, then we have made progress. Thank you for putting the question out there. It is something I need to think about more.Apr 27 2013: Is there a way we can create a virtual school that teaches scenarios in place of reading a text book. Kids go on an adventure in which they learn about events that happened and must work together with their guide to come up with solutions as a group. Have people from all ages work together to understand the mindset of our ancestors and find ways to evolve collectively toward the betterment of the world? Set up specific areas of historical significant as testing areas and create a game around them? Just throwing that out there.
Michael Haws
Apr 27 2013: i was reading some article but in it was talking about animals going to school. there was a mole who loved digging the bird who loved singing the prairie dog who loved such and such. anyway all the animals had many different strengths and weaknesses. society has put high demands on certain fields of study because that's what society needs. so student these days are being strip mind like the earth for the resources that are needed. and ultimately the people who design the courses are professors and teachers with there doctrines. who spend a lot of time in books and not in the actual work field. but there making students in their own image. the question is who do we want students to be like and act like and think like. there best self obviously. what is that? only god knows. question is how does man create a similar organization to the school of life. one that prepares students for what lies ahead. or gets more out of the way of that system that is already in place. somthing that flows more and harmonizes more with that system. great question.Apr 26 2013: Hunter, I still stand by my first answer at the beginning of this conversation. However your question "How do we get students to reach their full potential?' is at the center of this discussion. Please explain to me how do you measue "full potential". Since you know "you" better than anyone ... what is your full potential? Have you set the bar to high .. to low ... what are the rewards .. consequences .... if you do not achieve this "potential" are you a failure? Is this another way to "label".
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Putting schools on scales ... Isn't that what your arguing against?
If I say your potential is shoveling dirt .. and you do it then I (and you) have arrived at our goal. Have a nice life. I pat you on the back and tell you to keep it up and depart. Siince you have arrived at your "full potential" you will never be evaluated or promoted. End of the road.
In my earlier post I provide you with the opportunity to excell and learn ... you determine your potential and the "full" potential is always in the fulture.
I wish you well. Bob.Apr 25 2013: First we have to address government corruption . this should be on the top of you to do list Rootstrikers.orgApr 24 2013: I always feel when a topic like this arises that if you take a step back and look at the educational system that if you're not a person who 'achieved well' in school then you're just bitter so I really just bite my tongue and hold back an opinion. That's not how I feel but how I think people perceive me.
I saw this lovely picture of a man sitting at a desk addressing a plethora of animals saying "Right, I want to you climb this tree" and in the line up of animals were elephants, monkeys, giraffes, penguins..etc.. It oversimplifies the situation completely but you get the idea.
One thing that I witnessed in school was negativity towards asking 'questions'. People felt that questions were dumb or they were 'wrong', clearly I'm missing something here because how can a question be wrong? Sure, there is a time and a place for questions but a classroom of all places would be assumed to be a safe bet. I would say that throughout most people's lives people are scared to ask questions for fear of being punished. Maybe not even fear of being punished but a fear of being scolded by peers or something.
FNU Sheany, I loved your post. Would it be fair to say that when you enjoy doing something it comes more naturally and is easier. Perhaps if students were to identify what they actually enjoy doing, they would learn better. But I suppose a lot of other issues come into play when thinking about motivation in education. Competition of 'hobbies', be it video games or the likes, or sports..etc.. These things aren't bad, don't get me wrong. But they compete.
Sarah Myers: What constitutes "a better person", and who decides what's better? Would that be the syllabus? What is core and key values? Better in self-improvement or in relation to.. well, in relation to the given norm, or in relation to you and your values? The only way for some to learn is if they want to learn. But yes, issues that you discussed hit very true. Children don't understand complex emotional issues.
Apr 25 2013: Henry, you make several interesting points. One is that not managing to succeed in school can make people extremely bitter, which has a separate negative impact from their not having learned whatever they might have had learned. One sees the scars of that standing in the way of learning effectively over the lifetime, even if people don't realize it.
For example, I suspect, but cannot prove, that people who struggled in school are more likely to see conspiracies under every rock than those who succeeded in school. They may be more likely too to follow without serious examination anyone who sells them an alleged conspiracy. Many people, I suspect, look strenuously later in life for the validation they did not get early in life.
Which brings us to another of your points. That is, it is vital to engage kids in their schooling by tapping into their interests and connecting what they learn in the classroom to their interests and aspirations. It is also important to give kids challenging enough content so that they can feel a sense of satisfaction in meeting the challenge but not so much challenge that they will confront a string of failures. This shapes an attitude of enjoying learning experiences, an attitude that serves for a lifetime. A side benefit is that kids are less likely to harbor a resentment into adulthood of those who actually know more about a subject than they do. To learn one needs to be able to consider what other people offer and to learn from others rather than shutting them out because of an unconscious hatred for teachers or learned people.
I went to ordinary public schools now a long time ago and don't remember ever thinking we were discouraged from asking questions. I do think small children can be afraid of asking questions of strict teachers. I wonder how often students remember that as having been discouraged to ask questions.
Amy Peach
Apr 26 2013: I think you're both right about SOME people who struggled in school. I have seen friends and colleagues become embittered by the experience and absolutely determined to go in the opposite direction (for my high school friends it involved joining the peace corps, for my college friends it usually meant work in corporate America).
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I would add just one more deviation, though. Struggle in our current system can also make people determined to change it. I wasn't a terrible student in school, but homework definitely interested me less than friends. I can clearly remember a biology teacher in 9th grade telling me I probably forgot my homework in my locker because I was too busy chatting with the other cheerleaders about the dance on Saturday (it was a Friday and I was wearing a uniform at the time).
While the sexist remark did bother me, (and I made it clear to my counselor that it did), I didn't follow the path you describe. Rather, I went to college. Became engrossed in Victorian America and Sonny's Blues through my History an English programs. Applied that content knowledge to my M.Ed. Taught public, private, online, and urban high school students. Completed my Ph.D.
Now I work with people in every field of education imaginable and spend my days convincing them that our current system just doesn't serve students in the way it could and should. I don't remember my biology teacher with bitterness, but rather one (of many) signs that it was my job to advocate for students like myself.
And despite all the things that are still a struggle for our students, I think those efforts have paid off in small ways that will be apparent down the road. My kids are in elementary school, so I sincerely hope so anyway :)
Apr 26 2013: I know it can go both ways, just as some children from trying home environments become wonderful parents themselves or creative geniuses, while others may come to withdraw or even abuse their own children.
The damage it does to some people to be embittered by their school experiences to me warrants being attentive to this frequent scenario.
Everyone understands, I think, that there is plenty of room for improvement in schooling. As you have a Masters in Education and a PhD, you also know that schools have not been standing still, content with doing exactly what they did in 1950 but rather try one experiment after another to see whether the new model of curriculum or pedagogy works better or worse than the last. Meanwhile, some kids have a knack and disposition to extract a lot of learning from flawed learning environments and others less so. I would like to see kids have the resilience to make the most of the learning opportunities through which they pass, particularly because most of the environments though which they pass over the lifetime will not be customized to optimize their learning, even if that would be the ideal. Users, if you will, can do some customizing from their end.Apr 24 2013: This might not answer your question, and I'm really just sharing my views on the subject. I've just recently been exposed to this very topic, and how the current education system needs to be changed. Standardized testing isn't an accurate measure of a person's intelligence, and many institutions should go beyond grades to consider applicants. I've recently thought about this through myself, initially having agreed that we do need a better system - I realized that there are countless people out there who are struggling with the current system, who might actually be brilliant on some other aspects in academics - but are potentially undiscovered because we all follow a certain guideline, that's supposed to serve millions of people out there. We're missing out on uncountable brilliance, because we lack a working system that notices them. This needs to change, obviously. And you're posing a very important question, Hunter. How do we do it? It's not impossible, and we can definitely work on it from many different angles. But which one is the best, really? It seems to me that every angle serves a purpose, but doesn't necessarily fulfill the whole criteria. But if we do find it, it's going to be revolutionary - might just be the change we need in creating an overall better world. I believe we can. So let's get on it :)
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Apr 23 2013: I am +60yo. I am a HS dropout. Between 1974 and 2005, I have earned more than 160 SemHrs of academic credit experimental psychology, statistics, art history .... Interest and curiosity were always my major incentive for knowledge and experience acquisition. IMO, make learning available to all. The ones that want/need will. Grammar schools need to train children to read, write ... and learn (forget test taking) expeditiously and efficaciously. Use hands-on collaboration and task-completion to prove knowledge and skills acquisition. Yes, some will ride for awhile, but eventually everyone sees their failure looming if they don't try to be their best.
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The problem is, how do we fix this? Make learning 24/7 available and teacher access/help 8/4. What scale can we use in order to make schooling more beneficial to future students? Production and performance should always be the scale. How do we get students to reach their full potential? For me positive support, personal interest and curiosity, and availability of learning materials, time, and frequent changing life situations.
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Apr 25 2013: Hi,Adelo Vant,thank you so much for sharing free learning materials with us:)Apr 23 2013: We could do all essay testing instead of having a grading system. Either you understand the information or you don't.
Apr 23 2013: I like this idea a lot, John. The only problem with that, is that some kids are better at expressing themselves in words than others... To expand on your thought, what about if they dictated themselves and handed in their 'essay' as an MP3? Or gave a presentation/report on it, or wrote a song about it?
Apr 23 2013: Penciles and paper use less electrical energy than mp3's.
Writing and learninig to write would be a requirement. When you start lowering the bar, you set kids up to become lazy and non-productive, which is where we are today.
Brent Amer
Apr 23 2013: Hi Hunter
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I think passion breeds passion, I think we can all remember at least one teacher that had a positive impact on us, even those of us that haven't seen a classroom in many years. I think students could get together with teachers and suss out ways of making the classroom more vibrant which in turn could give student more motivation and passion. There is always going to be some kind of grading system so the powers at be have some kind of data, to do something with, but what really matters as you say, are your fellow school mates reaching their potential? No A or F can really show this, you might be sick on the day of your test or whatever, I challenge you to get a bunch of your friends together and brainstorm idea's about making the classroom somewhere you want to be, is this possible?, I guess not for everyone but I challenge anyway. The other key things is support, do your fellow students feel supported, if not tell your Principle, if they don't listen tell your Mayor, if they don't listen tell the Governor.
Awesome to see a young man interested in potential of his fellow students, keep it up!!
Apr 23 2013: Hi Brent,
I love your idea of involving kids and teachers to "suss out ways of making the classroom more vibrant which in turn could give student more motivation and passion"! I work with children, and the very first thing I do with them is make up our own list of rules together. The kids are enthusiastic about coming up with ways to make the lessons flow, and because they were instrumental in coming up with those rules, they adhere to them without any difficulty!
suresh kumar
Apr 21 2013: Hi,
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This is suresh working as systems engineer. The main thing to change education is to make the students to get intrest in studying not the theory part the education system must be change to give practical knowledge regarding the subject they teach. TOday students having lack of knowledge in practical part.
eslam ali
Apr 20 2013: we are the students can reexplain the lectures after the professors end their lectures in our simplified way and by our expressions and recording them audio and video then upload them for all people all over the world and making world wide library by students for our ideas sharing for lectures and topics explaining
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Apr 21 2013: Reexplaining lectures to yourself or in groups is one useful way of making sure you understand. An advantage of groups is that you are more likely to find the gaps or errors in each others understanding.
Apr 23 2013: we can also explain them in simplified way like that in documentary films providing chance for public people to understand and know what students learn in schools,faculties and courses thus we can increase people level of info. and decrease the gap () public and learners.
Apr 23 2013: I think many teachers choose their careers precisely because they enjoy putting material into a form that makes it easy for others to understand.
Further, I read yesterday in a book written by the neuroscientist who is the author of the leading medical school textbook in that area that people have an inborn drive to close the gap between what they know and what others know, which accounts for why people share information and their understandings of things.Apr 19 2013: The school of the future will be far more sophisticated than it is today. Education will be delivered to the homes of the students and the material presented will be from the best of the best educators. Any person will be able to study whatever they wish, whenever they wish. The internet is part way there already. Distance education is a common fact in Canada, today,so it is a proven system. I suggest that students that are free to study what they wish when they wish will be very interested in learning and will progress much faster.
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Apr 19 2013: there are 16 pages on bullshit ... that equates to two pages per letter ... must be very sophisticated bullshit...but I shall try to ingest itApr 11 2013: This depends on how you define potential. Surveys of high school graduates nationwide show on average a mere 20% retention of the curriculum one year after graduation, and that's the graduates. If retention of facts and a few basic skills is your definition of potential then the current system appears to be a near utter failure. If creativity is your goal then Ken Robinson's talks seem to indicate even worse results. If we look at Finland's schools, which according to PISA international tests are the best in the world, then they must be doing something better if not right. Yet they spend less money per student, fewer days per year and less hours per day in class and do nearly no testing and assign very little homework. I have been studying every report of their system I could find in the last ten years and have had the chance to interview a few Finns and here is my take. They have no standard all encompassing curriculum and every school is in effect a charter school for which there are no districts. The students and their parents can choose any school to which they are willing to travel . They do pick only the brightest candidates to become teachers(top 10% of undergrads). They do have smaller class sizes of 15 or so and all the teachers have Master's or Doctoral degrees. They do not separate the students by IQ with very few exceptionsfor extreme handicaps and also not rigidly by age with a three year spread being common. The teachers often stay with the same group of students for three years or more and form virtually a learning team in which they assist each other and the teacher. Their motto is not "no child left behind" like the boy scouts on a hike going as slow as the slowest, but "whatever it takes" for each child, acknowledging the wide range of learning styles and needs that make each of us unique and special. The impression I get is of much more freedom and flexibility and respect to and from the teachers.
Apr 11 2013: So after 12 years of schooling, people only retain, on average, 20% of what they learn?
"They do pick only the brightest candidates to become teachers(top 10% of undergrads). They do have smaller class sizes of 15 or so and all the teachers have Master's or Doctoral degrees."
-Does this mean that the teachers are paid better as well? Compared to the US.
Apr 12 2013: Hunter the 20% figure is an average of those who graduate. This implies that some do better and some do really badly. Have you ever heard the question "How many teachers or therapists does it take to change a light bulb?" Numbers are irrelevant, 1 or 100, since they can only succeed if the Bulb really wants to change, thus motivation is key.
As to the compensation of Finnish teachers, I hear they have a little better pay, but the big difference is the working conditions, where they have more creative freedom and are respected on the job and in the community. Of course their health benefits and Holidays are MUCH better too. This situation of each school being like a charter, with even more autonomy, and competing with all the other schools in their area has led to a situation where there are NO bad schools. Since the client can easily vote with his feet, a school must quickly respond to the needs and wishes of their clients or they will have to shut down. I often ask people what they think the primary source of wealth on our planet is after the energy we get from the Sun. Eventually they agree that it is the energetic application of human intelligence. That
being true then every student who fails to reach their potential represents a net loss to the global GDP. Finland walks this talk better than any other nation that of which I am aware. The American obsession for objectivity is reversed in that the teachers in the course of several years working with the students actually bond with them and get to know and understand them very well. Their motivation must be better for so many reasons. I like the fact that they may well be working with them next year, so no passing the buck. This gives even more incentive to get it right as soon as possible. Having taught in Europe and America myself and being a sixth generation teacher I can tell you that all the dedicated teachers I know wish nothing more than the chance to truly help their students succeed.Apr 10 2013: Hunter, I have often proposed a course map for all subjects k - 12 composed of modules that allow a student to advance through competency. It is a simple competent / non-competent system if you demonstrate competency you advance to the next module in the subject ... if non-competent you revist a remedial module and recieve assistance until competency is demonstrated. All students remain with their peers for social development. Students work at their level of understanding ... there is no grade just documented proficiency. The course map has no limits if the school would join a local college and have the modules and goals adjusted to meet the requirements of the college.
Transcripts would be where your are on the course maps. Every thing elese is bragging rights and parental pride.
This wouold solve the majuor problem I see in schools today ... getting the right answer is the goal ... I think the goals should be to demonstrate application and proficiency.
I wish you well. Bob.
Paul Folts
Apr 10 2013: Regardless of what type of scale you use, students will always shoot for the highest and nothing past that to make everyone happy. Instead of changing how students are graded, we need to change how students are taught. Nearly all schools teach their students in a way to reach a certain goal set by the standardization of education. While standardization is beneficial, it relies heavily on the use of memorization of facts and taking things for face value. Students study what they know will be tested and nothing more. Most simply put, teachers need to try and promote better critical thinking skills by pushing their students to question and challenge the accepted concepts being taught. If they can get their students to realize that there is more surrounding the topics discussed in the classroom than what is shown in their textbook, then the students can then be driven to come up with their own ideas and use relevant arguments to support their theories and have a more holistic understanding of the world around them.May 10 2013: This is a million dollar question, "How to me mark people with out making it a competition?". In an ideal world we would have enough slots in education that all people could do any course they wanted and progress in any direction. The problem is that this is just not logistically feasible. We need the grading, but i wholly agree that the approach should be changed.May 9 2013: There are good public schools out there, but overall, the system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Without an educated electorate, our nation is in deep peril. I have stated my solution which some see as too radical. Maybe so, but there is no time for more repetitive discussion if we are to fix the problem before even more serious damage is done.May 9 2013: Below is a quote from a prof in CA Univ who participated in writing the "Core Standards" to be force-fed to the teaching of fractions in math for all the elementary schools in the U. S. You can judge whether their proposed method is any easier to understand than the traditional method. In the italicized quotes,the author try to equate their method as the "truth" as opposed to the traditional. Remember, fraction is taught before geometry.
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"To give one example, consider the fraction-phobia that has beset U.S.
schools. Fractions are taught either by using pieces of pizza, or by using
ill-defined notions like "ratio."
Clearly, fractions should not be taught using only pizza slices, and this
is where the Core Standards make important improvements. According to the
Core Standards, fractions should be defined geometrically as points on a
number line. Students mark whole numbers as a sequence of equidistant
points on a line, like an infinite ruler. They then mark fractions. For
example, 1/2 is the point on the line half-way between 0 and 1, and 1/3 is
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Once this is done, students can identify any fraction with the length of
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framework, it becomes crystal clear what the addition of fractions means:
It is the total length of the combined segment when the two segments are
put together end-to-end. Likewise, multiplication is the area of the
rectangle formed by the two line segments, just like the multiplication of
whole numbers.
The Republican National Committee is opposed to the Core Standards on the
grounds that education is the prerogative of the states and their school
districts. But this argument ignores the fact that mathematics represents
objective, timeless and necessary truths. These truths apply uniformly and
equally to any citizen, regardless of geographic location. Fractions mean
the same thing in Iowa and Alabama as they do in California and Texas".
May 9 2013: How interesting, Bart, that you should bring this up!
I went to Montessori school, where fractions were indeed taught visually/tangibly using pie pieces.
When I entered the public school system in 5th grade, I did an aptitude test and literally drew the pie pieces next to each question to aid myself in figuring out the answers.
My parents were 'confronted' about this at the first possible parent-teacher conference - thank goodness they knew there was nothing wrong with me!
May 9 2013: Thank you for telling me about your experience with the pie-slices method. In my posting above, I was running out of the words limit, and also I hope that the readers/discussants could easily tell the choice of the methods in explaining the manipulation of fractions problems. May I offer you some ammunition on counterattack for this when you might get the confrontation in a parent-teacher conference, now as a parent. Anyway I would like to hear any challenge to say that my logic is wrong.
First, let me explain what actually complicated the matter in the method in the "Core Standards" about the equation of 1/2 X 1/3 = 1/6. In their explanation they said the solution of 1/6 happens to be equal to the area of the product of the 2 fractions; 1/2 and 1/3. . But that's completely math computation which is very difficult for the children to relate to. They could use the physical demo by showing the cut up of a 1ft by 1ft square piece by first cutting it to 2 pieces of 6"x12", then cut each of them in 3 ways to get pieces of 4'x6', so that each sub-piece will amount to 24 sq inches to show that it would be equal to 1/6 of the total area of the 1 ft x 1ft (12" x 12" = 144") board. One may ask why should we do these measurement steps? But if you don't approach it in this way then what would this approach be any different than the pie-slices approach anyway.
Now if you take this so-called "truth" method, it involves a stringent requirement that all the cutting measures have to be very precise. Because it not, the end "product" won't be equal to 24 sq inches exactly However, in the pie slices method, you may not realize it, the measurement process doesn't have to be precise to show the result, any roughly close measurement will suffice, and the latter method is much easier to understand visually and tangibly by the children/students as well. So why should we spend lot of time and effort to make all these measurements that really doesn't appease to intuition of the children.
May 9 2013: I have taught fractions often and find that almost everyone understands better with a visual representation. I believe that is the most usual way of presenting the subject, isn't it?May 9 2013: I sure hope so Fritzie! My story did take place more than two decades ago...!May 9 2013: Yeah! I was privileged to teach elementary school for a few years. That was more than twenty years ago now. Their little eyes really do light up when they begin to understand. It makes me giggle to remember.
The rest of the time it can be like herding cats. Never never never look away; even for a single instant! You have to make the magic work ALL the time. And that can be really really hard to do. Good teachers are a treasure. Great teachers are priceless!


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Gargoyles inspired by the old stone sculptures that grace the ramparts of European castles and cathedrals are also on sale for today and tomorrow. These include the Chained Cathedral Gargoyle Statue and the Spitting Gargoyle of Notre Dame. The Chained Cathedral Gargoyle Statue is a wonderful replica of classic stone gargoyles meant to scare off evil spirits. It works towards this goal with a toad-like, fanged face and widespread, bat wings. The Spitting Gargoyle is about as authentic as you can get when it comes to classic gargoyles because this unique piece was cast from the actual spitting gargoyle found on the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris!
All of our dragons are also on sale, including such scaled beauties as Desmond the Dragon Statue and the Dragon of Falkenberg Castle Moat Lawn Statue.
Get 20% off all dragon and gargoyles statues until July 10th at Design Toscano.
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10 Most Iconic Wedding Dresses Ever
The times may have changed, but classic dress trends remain the same. We saw some incredible gowns on the runway this past season and think they are as timeless as ever! Check out these lovely famous brides and their modern-day counterpart! Which one is closest to your dream dress style?
Kate Middleton's Lace Gown With Sleeves by Sarah Burton
This iconic Sarah Burton royal wedding gown has since inspired countless modest v-necks and dainty lace sleeves. This romantic style will make any girl feel like a princess.
Trend to Try: Lace sleeves
See More: Christos gowns
Jacqueline Lee Bouvier's Bateau Dress by Ann Lowe
The embellished skirt of Jackie's taffeta gown paired perfectly with her grandmother's lace veil for a super romantic, heirloom look.
Trend to Try: Cap sleeves
See More: Badgley Mischka gowns
Victoria Adams Beckham Corseted Strapless Gown by Vera Wang
The structured bodice and strapless style of Posh Spice's trend setter wedding dress (by Vera Wang, none other) has paved the way for many dresses in time since. She just may be solely responsible for the strapless dress empire in the world of weddings.
Trend to Try: Corset bodice
See More: Alvina Valenta gowns
Carolyn Bassette Kennedy's Strappy Sheath Gown by Narciso Rodriguez
The sleek and sexiness of Carolyn's bias-cut, Narciso Rodriguez gown resulted in the launch of his career and then solidified her as a style icon.
Trend to Try: Sheath dresses
See More: Elizabeth Fillmore gowns
Mia Farrow's Mini Dress
Mia Farrow's wedding to Frank Sinatra was sweet and chic, just like her boxy mini dress that was cropped to perfection.
Trend to Try: Short dresses
See More: Jenny Packham gowns
Princess Diana's Silk Taffeta Gown by David and Elizabeth Emanuel
While there was nothing understated about Diana's puff-sleeved, ruffled, silk taffeta gown (not to mention covered in lace, embroidery, and 10,000 tiny pearls) at her royal wedding to Prince Charles in 1981, we still see each of those elements — just not all on the same gown.
Trend to try: Ruffled necklines
See More: Jenny Lee gowns
Kate Moss's Sparkly Shear Gown by John Galliano
Flower children, floral crowns, and illusion necklines are all common factors in the Kate Moss wedding category. This trend setting wedding has inspired trends throughout the industry time and again.
Trend to Try: Illusion necklines
See More: Mark Zunino gowns
Audrey Hepburn's Bateau Gown
Not her exact wedding dress, but this one she wore in the film Funny Face paved the way for tea-length gowns of all types. Classic and simple, and oh so elegant.
Trend to Try: Tea-length
See More: Oscar de la Renta gowns
Grace Kelly's Pearl-Studded Sleeved Gown by Helen Rose
This dreamy, Hollywood fantasy gown was just that. In 1956, she played a princess onscreen in The Swan and then assumed the role in real life. As a parting gift from Grace Kelly's former studio, MGM, the pearl-studded, long-sleeved gown she wore to marry Monaco's Prince Rainier was conceived by costume designer Helen Rose.
Trend to Try: Lace sleeves
See More: Dennis Basso gowns
Gwen Stefani's Custom Dip-Dyed Gown by Dior
This Dior dip-dyed silk faille gown was custom-created for the pop star's 2002 wedding. We love this ombre look!
Trend to Try: Ombre effects
See More: Watters gowns
What was your favorite inspiration? Tweet me @heatherhallm or let me know below!
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Saturday, May 10 @ 11am
Who let the dogs out? Elementary students and beginning readers are invited to join our volunteer therapy dogs for a barking good time. Read your favorite stories to these clever canines and become a member of the Read to Rover Frequent Reader Club. Don't miss this great experience. Come visit with Cookie, Maddie, and our newest dog Polly. Read them one of your favorite books or one of the many doggie tales we have at the library.


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Bob Mackie The Charleston Barbie® Doll
Barbie® bears incredible likeness to the flappers of the 1920s dance scene. Her dress is beaded on orange material with chartreuse, green, gold, and clear beads, and features a skirt made up of separate beaded panels. She wears a bubble-shaped coat of beaded leopard print lined in bright purple satin and trimmed in long brown fur, and dons a small cap covered with chartreuse, green, and gold beads with two blond curls peeking out. Her thigh-high stockings and shoes are painted onto her legs. Jewelry accents include a long chartreuse green beaded necklace and multicolored beaded bracelets. Porcelain body was specially sculpted to achieve "Charleston" posing.
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The Salvation Army lets you start an online kettle of your own. Check it out here.
I only have time to make a donation, if you're more like me then make a donation to my red kettle of choice with team Hugh Hewitt by clicking here or the image below.
If you're unfamiliar with Hugh, he is one of the best conservative Christian radio show hosts in the country and my personal favorite. You can see his blog at hughhewitt.com.
You don't have to donate to his kettle, but donate to one somewhere! The Salvation Army is FAR short of their goals this Christmas, so let's help them out!


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Cut by the Ludwig & Mayer foundry in 1930, after drawings by Karl Sommer. Lichte is German for "bright" (not "light"): it is decorated with open stripes that look like chrome reflections or speed lines. The solid cut is named Dynamo. Lichte Motor has been digitized more than once, most successfully by Steve Jackaman as Motorcross.
Fifty Years with Motor Cars by A.F.C. Hillstead1960
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Master of Arts in Teaching Program Offers New Concentration in Special Education
Teachers and schools are in the news almost every single day. Test scores are up, test scores are down, money is being cut, programs are being eliminated, and a "shift is happening" in the teaching workforce. The Master of Arts in Teaching program at St. Edward's University is ready to help. Beginning in Fall 2011, a new concentration in special education will begin. Students have the option of applying to St. Edward's to earn the MAT degree or simply apply to take only the courses in special education. In either case, those who are already certified to teach in Texas may wish to further their education by obtaining the additional certification in special education.
For example, let's say you've just graduated and have received a teaching certificate and are looking for that perfect teaching position. You can spend valuable time in the fall and spring taking a few courses in special education each semester, after which you will be prepared to take the exam in special education. With a successful score, you will be able to add an additional certification credential to your teaching certificate! You'll also be that much closer to a master's degree in teaching if you want to continue on with the degree.
Let's look at it another way: maybe you are an experienced teacher who has been out of the workforce as a result of all the cutbacks in education. You know the challenges that schools face to address the needs of all of your students, especially students with special needs. The MAT concentration in special education can assist you with the additional skills you need to boost your confidence and your skills as you get back into the job market. In either case, newly certified teacher or experienced teacher, the MAT special education concentration might be just what you're looking for!
These three course options are available this fall:
- Instructional Practices in Teaching Students with Special Needs
- Effective Instructional and Behavioral Strategies for Students with Disabilities
- Teaching Reading, Language Arts, and Math to Students with Disabilities
Let us help you become a highly skilled special education teacher! Contact Graduate Admission at 512-448-8600 to learn more. Or request more information.
–Dr. David Hollier is the Director of the MAT Program at St. Edward's University


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The Applewood Business Association meets the second Thursday of the month at Rolling Hills Country Club. Applewood is located in northwest Lakewood includes areas of Golden, Wheat Ridge, and Jefferson County. ABA is dedicated to the promotion, expansion and development of its members by providing services that directly aid, support and promote their business and by expressing and supporting common goals for the protection, identity and growth of Applewood businesses and the community. For more information, visit www.applewoodbusiness.com.
The liquor licensing authority, officially known as the Lakewood Liquor and Fermented Malt Beverage Licensing Authority, makes decisions on the granting or refusal of liquor/beer license applications and conducts hearings on alleged violations. The Authority meets at 2 p.m. on the second and fourth Thursday of each month in the City Council Chambers.
Visit the Liquor Licensing Authority page for upcoming meeting agendas and information. Meetings and agenda items are subject to change or cancellation.
An opportunity for you to benefit from reduced-cost vaccinations while renewing or getting a new dog license. This ensures you are complying with Lakewood Municipal Ordinances. Click here for the flyer for this event.Click here for general information about the clinics.


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Kenwood Dresser
Kenwood's planked panels and rustic hardware borrow from the vernacular architecture of old American barns.
- Handcrafted of solid American pine with pine veneers, a solid pine top and planked sides
- Available in either a driftwood finish with silver accents and worn edges, giving the piece the warmth of age, or in a painted grey finish to impart the vintage character of age
- Features 4 English-dovetailed drawers with dust panels, tip rails and wood-on-wood glides
- Nylon glides on feet
- Iron hardware has a matte finish
- This item is handcrafted with meticulous care. Given its hand-finished nature and natural variations in the wood grain, each item is unique and no two will be exactly alike.
- Furniture Tip Restraint included
- Wipe with a soft, dry cloth. Avoid direct sunlight and heat to protect the finish.
- Wood swatch is 6" square; free shipping
- GREENGUARD Gold Certified. Meets or exceeds stringent chemical emissions standards. Learn more.
Shown in driftwood.
Kenwood Dresser
- Overall: 40"W x 18"D x 36"H
- Top Drawer Interior: 15"W x 14½"D x 6"H
- Bottom Drawer Interior: 32"W x 14½"D x 7½"H
- Weight: 106 lbs.
Kenwood Dresser
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Marie Antoinette Barbie® Doll
Carrying a handcrafted porcelain pair of roses, Barbie® doll is the height of royalty as Marie Antoinette who became the Queen of France when her husband was crowned King Louis XVI in the 18th century. She wears a regal blue gown and matching bodice that is embellished with touches of golden lace. Draped with golden fringe, the generous layers of her extravagant gown are decorated with golden tassels and hide her full-length pantaloons and the blue satin ribbons on her shoes. A matching hat topped with feathers completes her ensemble. She wears an extravagant rhinestone necklace that complements her dramatic ensemble.
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Wien oder KHM, Wien
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Our Slim Laptop Briefbag takes the classic briefcase and gives it a modern upgrade. A perfect accessory for the style-conscious busy professional, this bag is designed to hold everything you need for work in one convenient place. Handcrafted from genuine leather, the Slim Laptop Briefbag features a padded sleeve with Velcro strap in the center, keeping your computer secure at all times. We include a large zippered pocket on the outside - great for a charger - and multiple slip pockets for things like a phone or a USB drive. Inside are small zippered pockets and leather pen loops, so you'll always have your essentials ready. Sturdy traditional handles and a detachable shoulder strap on the outside make carrying easy. By now it should be clear - our Slim Laptop Briefbag is a must-have for any businessperson on the go!
Casual yet distinctive, our Timeless collection is one of our favorites. This leather boasts a polished finish and a soft hand feel, making it a great choice for any leather connoisseur. And with the variety of colors it comes in, it's easy to find a shade that appeals to you or matches with your other accessories. As the name implies, our Timeless collection will hold up through years of use while aging gracefully every step of the way.
Please note: textures in this collection range from light grain to a lightly pebbled grain depending on which part of the hide it's from.
Classic 50s italian design. Beautiful leather and stitching. Subtle embossing. Light weight - which matters once you fill it with items.
Gift card design was elegant.
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Very good bag. Good quality stitching and leather. All components have a quality feel and are well finished.
I love this bag. It's soft great quality leather. It is also quite roomy. It's worth the price. You will not be disappointed.
Leather, hardware and design are all first rate!
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One of the most critical and yet overlooked systems to be found on a classic Corvette is the cooling system. Anyone who has clocked any serious seat time in one of these machines has inevitably experienced the anxiety of steadily climbing temperatures, and the worry and grief that goes along with it. Nothing ruins a summer outing like a vehicle that simply won't keep its cool. Add a modified engine, lower gears, or even normal stock equipment like air conditioning, and the potential for heating problems is only exasperated.
With most new vehicles, we tend not to give it a second thought, flying down desert highways in the searing heat of summer, A/C blasting, with nary a worry in a world. Contrast that to sweating with the A/C long switched off to preserve cooling capacity, fretting and concerned as the temperature gauge continues to climb. Sometimes, evasive action is called for, slowing to a fraction of the flow of modern traffic, or even turning on the heater in a desperate bid to shed additional BTUs with the meager capacity of the heater core. Take the opposite scenario, you're trapped in the snarl of urban traffic with nowhere to go, idling and crawling with no possibility of escape; the temperature gauge begins to soar. You suffer the impending doom, again perhaps trying the heater trick, or continuously clutching, or going to neutral and holding some revs in a frantic effort to shave critical degrees. If enough heat reaches the carb, you'll experience the double indignity of an engine boiling the fuel and continually trying to stall. A nightmare scenario? Actually, it's all too common.
These kinds of problems are so prevalent, in fact, that in many cases the tendency to overheat is a primary reason many owners simply will not drive their classic Vette. A few bad experiences as those just described are more than enough for many owners to opt for permanent dry-dock in the confines of a garage. So, what makes a modern machine so capable of coping in situations which may push our older Vettes over the edge? There are a variety of factors, not the least of which include higher overdrive gearing to reduce the revs, and the seldom considered effects of built-up rust and corrosion in the water jackets. Be that as it may, almost all modern machines feature large aluminum radiators with high-efficiency electric fans.
For the ultimate cooling in a classic Vette, it pays to take a page from the advancements put forth by the modern OEMs. First, consider that at best, many older Vettes were marginally equipped in cooling capacity, even when new. Although there are many factors involved in cooling efficiency, such as airflow, the fan/fan clutch condition, thermostat, and water pump, the bottom line comes down to one major factor-the radiator's ability to shed heat. When it comes to real cooling ability, this is the big-daddy factor that really counts the most. If that capacity is not there, you can fool with thermostats, trick water pumps, fans, airflow shields, gaskets, or all manner of magic elixirs and potions added to the coolant, and still come away frustrated. By contrast, bolt-in a radiator with heroic capacity to dissipate BTUs and fans to really move the air, and success is virtually guaranteed every time.
A perfect example of all we've aforementioned is our '76 Stingray. With only a mildly modded 350, this machine has ample get-up and go, but the combination of relatively low gearing and a marginal factory cooling system made it undrivable from any practical standpoint. At normal freeway speed, the temperature would climb precipitously, punctuated with convulsions of boiling and frothing when parked at the end of a run. On the other hand, crawling through traffic was a certain death sentence, sure to end with coolant breaching its confines to spill gracelessly on the tarmac below. Basically, the car was useless, but we knew what to do. Here there was no room to compromise; the plan was simply to bolt-in the best system we could find-a modern high-capacity radiator, complete with precisely controlled electric fans.


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Blue Nile Limited Warranty
Blue Nile provides a Blue Nile 2-year-limited-warranty for all our TAG Heuer watches.
The manufacturer's warranty does not apply to this product because we are not an authorized reseller of this watch. This warranty is the only express warranty covering this watch and we disclaim any liability under the manufacturer's warranty.
This warranty covers manufacturing defects for two years from the date of purchase from Blue Nile. Any part found to be defective as a result of a manufacturing fault will be repaired or replaced by Blue Nile.
What is covered?
Consequential and incidental damages are not recoverable under this warranty or any implied warranties. Some states do not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental or consequential damages, so this limitation or exclusion may not apply to you.
This limited warranty does not cover:
|the bracelet or strap,
|wear to the case,
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If your watch is repaired or serviced by anyone other than Blue Nile, this warranty will become void. This warranty is valid only in the United States.
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This season, the gilded guise is up. It's no longer just about metallic touches, but the rich use of pattern, print, and accessories. This means, fashionistas are taking their cues straight from the pages of a past life, pulling gold chains, pearls, and swirling embroidery together for rich autumn outfitting.
Bloggers Flaunt the Baroque Fashion Trend
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Metallic minis, golden crown headbands and velvet textures take center stage for these bloggers set on repeating history. Check out how these sartorial rock stars incorporate jewel tones and leather touches to take this trend from prim and proper to edgy and ever-relevant.