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- Kareem Fahim
- Barcelona - Catalonia
- Spain
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Are you comfortable with NSA collecting your personal data?
'Top secret PRISM program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Facebook and Apple'
The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.
Well, all of us already knew so I don't think it has surprised anyone... but I'd like to know opinions of TED community, are you comfortable with fact that USA Gov. is continuously collecting your personal data?
@People who say 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAKtBpdZSw
Closing Statement from Kareem Fahim
Majority of people are annoyed by this 'data collection'. Western Govs., defenders of 'freedom' 'democracy' and 'input_word' are mere bunch of hypocrites. Although it is shocking how some people are defending NSA and these faceless entities... (maybe they are 'trolls' or NSA paid users...).
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Jun 13 2013: GREAT stuff!
Jun 14 2013: Actually it's not so great, sorry to disillusion you.
When using ANY service, even one that says it uses - "End to End Encryption" - First verify when the servers are located, click on the "About Us" and find out where the principle members are located too. These factors will effect the possibility of you being intercepted.
Also if your so inclined learn a foreign language, or speak with different accents when you make a call, have fun with it - but know it's harder to voice match against that.
Lastly and most importantly, USE THE SYSTEM, know there are still lots of pay phones around.
Shit, I really should not have advertised that - now there'll be a queue:)Jun 10 2013: Three cheers for Edward Snowden.
Kareem Fahim
Jun 10 2013: That guy has put everything on stake. I hope they let him live a normal life...
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Don Anderson
Jun 11 2013: Edward Snowden for President!Jul 6 2013: Our government is collecting and permanently (as in forever) storing every digital signal they can about all of us. Every email, phone call, text message, everything I type into Google and Facebook - all my locations as recorded by my mobile device - every photo from every camera, every drone, every satellite, every reading from every smart electricity reader - heck every library book you borrow. All permanently stored, "just in case" they need it. Permanent, as in that data will still be here 1, 5, 10, 30 years from now. Because you never know, one of us could turn out to be The Bad Guy.
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With our government's proven track record of lying to us to make excuses to go to war, and their history of locking up hundreds of thousands of innocent American citizens just because they looked like our enemy, our government can not be trusted with this awesome power. Add to that the fact that most politicians are controlled by the money of an amoral corporate elite and wealthy, and it gets even worse. [We need an amendment over turning citizens united so very badly!]
Then add the possibility that corrupt local law enforcement will get access to this, and you get the possibility that your angry ex spouse, who knows the chief of police in Small Town, USA, and that chief of police uses some ruse to get access to every digital bit ever recorded about you, now in the hands of your ex spouse who is devoted to destroying you.
I see only one way around this: We as citizens must deploy 100% legal electronic counter measures to prevent the collection of such data about us. At present, this is neither easy nor practical, but with enough money and effort, it can be done.
One of the main challenges is that most people really don't seem to care. Most people don't agree with me that the potential for the worst police state this world has ever seen, is right around the corner.
Vera Nova
Jun 15 2013: How much information the Gov-nt really NEED to really stop a terrorist, or at least to Predict some sudden crazy action? Did not the government already have all the info available on those sickly guys who have been shooting and bombing in public, even Before these things have happened ? Did this available info help the Gov-nt Stop these guys?
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The population is remaining victims of all manipulations coming from everywhere, but the terror will always find its ways, guns, knifes, or cooking pots for stuffing them with some explosive junk.
Our society is very sick altogether, and that is the very root of the problem. Need to find the remedy to get rid of mass hysteria, emotional stress, and that spooky extreme "truth" one-for-all. Have any ideas, remedies?
ONE HELPFUL THING: every living form on this planet is unique, but we, humans, are the only kind that put themselves in man-made categories, like good and bad units, black and witie units, Muslim and Christian units, uneducated and educated units, rich and poor units, famous and no-body units.
For the sake of nature - our ultimate school in this world - we shall learn that everyone of us is born unique, having different abilities and disabilities, and that everyone has given his or her individual mind and body. We are Not one or two collective minds and we are not one collective body. We have to learn how to be responsible for our own actions towards others, and never act for a group of brainwashed maniacs, whether they are religious, industrial maniacs, or political maniacs. Blessings!
Jun 16 2013: Re: "Our society is very sick altogether, and that is the very root of the problem. Need to find the remedy to get rid of mass hysteria, emotional stress, and that spooky extreme "truth" one-for-all. Have any ideas, remedies?"
I generally agree with your statement, except for the last part. Why think of ourselves as "victims" and the society as "sick"? The remedy to get rid of mass hysteria is simple - stop spreading it. Turn off the media.
Quite honestly, I have never personally witnessed a single shooting. The people I personally know are, generally, nice and help each other. If I never knew about this PRISM thing, I doubt I would ever see a government agent at my doorstep. Only once in my life somebody tried to use my credit card, but it was caught and resolved within days - no big deal. But the media dwells on these sensations. If we turn on the TV, life suddenly appears full of maniacs, terrorists, snooping government agents, and criminals, and the country on the verge of financial collapse and dictatorship, etc. As if there is not enough concern over who's the next Kardashian's boyfriend.
Epi Jay
Jun 8 2013: I'm afraid to answer this question because the NSA will be accessing this post and don't know which political action will be taken against me :)
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Jun 8 2013: You are expressing a profile that indicates a high degree of fear and uncertainty. I think you bear checking into Epl Jay. Quickly now, have you ever or are you currently involved in any unsightly and EViiiAL, imperious activities we should be investigating?
Jun 8 2013: I used to be afraid of criticizing the US officially on the web. because I thought that I'd be put on the T.S.A watch list. Therefore I have since long decided that I will only travel to the US if invited by TED or a major organization. Something that would create news if I were to disappear. I really don't trust any part of the US government to be either wise or emphatic, and I don't want to end up tortured for years without any hope for a trial...
I've read multiple stories on the TSA watch list and people being on it without any reason at all.
Take a look at this article for example (first one on Google with "TSA watch list child")...
Jun 8 2013: That's why I never fly Jimmy. :)
Take a boat then a train then a bus or taxi.
or, call me and I'll come pick you up and you can stay at my home for free. We have two spare bedrooms for guests. :)Jun 8 2013: On second thought Jimmy, you might better hold up where you are for safeties sake:
It appears our president has declared cyber-war against some nations we consider to be a threat to our national security:
" The directive states that cyber attacks can be launched as part of "anticipatory action taken against imminent threats," but should comply with U.S. and international law and receive approval from the president if they are "reasonably likely to result in significant consequences," according to the Guardian, quoting President Obama.
:..reasonably likely to result in significant consequences...." ?
I wonder if he said that when he gave the go ahead to kill Obama Bin laden?
This is going to be interesting.Jun 12 2013: Being a U.S. citizen [born here] I can tell you my country has changed. I remember a time when I could go to the airport and fly anywhere without ID. I remember a time when carrying your ID was optional. Now you hear the cry PAPERS PLEASE and I think of Nazi Germany.It seems we Americans have given up sacred rights for the sense of being protected, which we are not. I do not blame you at all for feeling anxious of the US, it has become scary. It has become a police state.Jun 8 2013: Yeah, I'll just stay here and keep doing my cyber attacks on you country then ;-P
What's funny is that they can never tell where a cyber attack is coming from since most hactivists (and terrorists) use TOR or something like that to hide themselves... A program funded by the Swedish state nonetheless (I'm so proud!).
Jun 8 2013: They use mobile proxy servers. They drive up to your house at night, get on our wireless router and upload the information to their servers and drive away. Before the authorities get the information, the servers are dismantled and taken to another location where they sit, awaiting for the awake code PING! then the process is reenacted all over again. You won't find that information in a cell phone call.Jun 8 2013: Are you sure? Do you have any sources for this?
I know quite a bit of both how computers and governments work and this seems very unlikely so I'd really like some sources on this if you don't mind.
Jun 8 2013: It's pretty standard operations actually. I've been writing code since 1978.
A dutch national was arrested in Barcelona recently google that and understand.
My main point is that many of these communications are not carried out by cell phones. It is only when they are actually carrying out a mission like the Benghazi attack in Libya, that the get down to the cell phone use. By then it's over and done with. they toss the phones away. Setting up this stuff is done with couriers and computer accounts. The safest way to send information is with someone Else's account. If I use your wireless router to send my message, it doesn't read my ip address, it reads yours. If I can gain access to your router, I can erase the fact i was ever there. All wireless routers can be broken into unless you use some kind of unorthodox method to secure it. Every last one in the general public or business world.
WEP is extremely vulnerable to 'sniffing'. A standard WEP key could be hacked in a matter of minutes (depending on the traffic) WPA2 has finally reached the same level of vulnerability.Jun 8 2013: Yeah, WPA2 is very vulnerable, I've hacked into some routers using a simple brute-forcer. I only do it for internet access (and at first to see if I could). But I'm aware of the procedures for sniffing information once you're in. Once you have access to the router you can see all the traffic going on there very easily and play with Facebook accounts or anything that's logged in for example.
However, when hiding your identity on the web TOR, like I said in my previous post, is the ultimate way to go. It doesn't matter if the information is stored locally if they have no idea where in the world to look for you.
I checked the case with Sven Olaf Kamphuis... Wasn't really nice of him to DDoS the biggest anti.spam site. and on top of that slow the whole web down...
But do they really "drive up to your house at night, get on our wireless router and upload the information to their servers and drive away."?. And who are "they" in this case I'm not sure I'm following. But I would very much like some more information and sources on this if you have any...
Jun 8 2013: It's in regards to a hypothetical situation Jimmy. While some have tried with me personally, I think their sole intention was to check their email. But, it is so easy to do I'm sure any self-serving terrorist will try or is using this procedure to transfer information all the way across the world.
Now, identity thieves are a different sort.
Are you aware of Titan?
In my short life time I have discovered if it's possible in any regard on the internet, someone will use it, especially if it's simple and easy to implement.
Of course with your and mine abilities it is an easy task to ascertain if someone is trying to hack our routers. Mine is supervised with software I wrote that sounds an audible alarm, when I'm active with the computer. My real protection lies in the fact I turn my computer off if I'm not using it so it can't be hacked and used in any DOS attacks. That is the simplest solution to a whole worlds problems. Don't leave your computer on when your not using it.
All we have spoken of is on the internet for anyone to read and understand.
Epi Jay
Jun 8 2013: My only issue with this is that the Obama regime has shown scant respect for politically opposing views; if PRIZM was set up to detect terrorists, what happened in Boston? No, I think this is in the same league as the IRS targeting. It's not trivial to say that this is beginning to remind me of the Nazi regime and other socialist regimes in the world
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Kareem Fahim
Jun 8 2013: I created this post... + I'm Muslim...
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I'm doomed... oh wait someone knocking on door.....
V Williams
Jul 4 2013: Just like to make a few points about the situation:
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First, I don't think anyone can listen to everyone's conversations, the NSA may be good, but not that good. I don't think the NSA is interested in endless conversations with high points such as "what are we having for dinner, boy what a hard day at work, do you want to go to the movies tonight, etc, etc. I think the program scans/screens millions of calls and flags calls with "hot button" words or probably patterns of words that indicate some type of encryption or code. Since I'm not, nor is the majority of the U.S. population, involved in the sale of weapons of mass destruction or espionage, I'm not really concerned about phone calls being being benignly screened. If screening calls is going to prevent 911-like situations then I think its ok.
Second, intelligence gathering goes on all day every day by all countries (and FYI by businesses), NO country can truly sit on their high horse and say they don't; spying in many senses helps keep the global peace, its just an unspoken global "accord"- this is just the world we live in.
Third, (most importantly) don't blame the NSA, in many senses they're just doing their job. When we live in a time of unconventional warfare (i.e. 911) unconventional defenses must be put in place. Some say the CIA/NSA dropped the ball with 911 but for that one "failure" I'm sure there have been many more "unreported" victories.
Fourth, Mr Snowden may have used "free speech" to express what he wanted but in the end I think his efforts have caused damage. Behind each covert operation there are usually agents (PEOPLE) who are being protected by the secrecy of the operation, who in this case may have been exposed. Mr Snowden has cast judgment on NSA for spying on "us" without our consent but I think he was also out of place for taking it upon himself for disclosing a covert operation and making a decision for "us" and the safety of our nation without our consent.
Jul 5 2013: Curious he V WILLIAMS on this point of yours......" Mr Snowden has cast judgment on NSA for spying on "us" without our consent but I think he was also out of place for taking it upon himself for disclosing a covert operation and making a decision for "us" and the safety of our nation without our consent."
Are you perchance telling us that a democratically elected Govt (in your case America) has accordingly been given 'open slaver' and full consent be YOU the voter, to carry out whatever actions they like with out your consent or knowledge or accountability??
Curious.............who's job and right is it to hold govts accountable??Jul 7 2013: They can listen to all our conversations and they do! Although by monitoring this is real time our government may thwart a terrorist threat, the even larger value is that this data is always around. So five years from now when they are trying to track down the terrorist next store who happened to have dinner with you years ago, they may well pull up that phone call you had with your neighbor where he talked about his dislike for apple pie, and now, yes, that could help track down the apple-pie-hating terrorist.
Tim Thornton
Jun 29 2013: It's not the collection that worries me as much as is its incorrect interpretation and inappropriate use by imperfect humans.
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Michael Free
Jun 27 2013: No.
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What I do is my business. What about my intellectual property? What about the world citizenry's intellectual property? Who's protecting people's ideas? What about my rights to speak openly? I know I do nothing wrong but is it even up to me to decide that what I am doing is right or wrong in the government's eyes? Maybe the government doesn't like my non-violent politics so much, seeing it as a threat, that they decide to do something to shut me up.Jun 27 2013: ...a resounding NO! It only goes to prove that we are living in a powerful, well-organized plutocracy.Jun 24 2013: Our Personal data and Information should not be taken by anyone else its should be hidden from from unknowns and its our right and what NSA is doing is absolutely wrongJun 23 2013: No matter what we do, we're now under surveillance.
In order to have a private conversation we'll have to meet "analog style" in a back alley and exchange hand-written notes. Big Brother is now everywhere.
So maybe we need to stop using Google, Facebook and Apple to store private information ? But who's to say that they won't start putting pressure on private hosting companies to access private domains ... we have let the NSA run amok and I think that the only way to remedy this is to pass laws that forbid this kind of systematic data collection and enforce it ... however, if they really wanted to get the information they could probably hire hackers to get it for them so either way ... it's a done deal :(
Jun 24 2013: I totally agree you Miss CarolineJun 25 2013: Agreed.
I would also like to add the following - with the nanotechnology available today back alleys and docks may not allow a private conversation either. Please see the link below. However, I'll allow myself to see the possibilities and focus on the positive outcome. If problems, algorithms etc. are solved, risks properly discussed and assessed, voices heard, dialogue used, information not misinterpreted, manipulated with or misused, humanism applied, the future may still be bright :)
Best wishes.
Quote (again, sorry, I've posted this in a different but related conversation as well) "We learn of the case of a French man whose home was raided and who still remains on a terrorist watch list eight years later because algorithms in software analysing his movements determined he spent too much time looking at his surroundings..."Jul 4 2013: I can only imagine what kind of information the NSA is collecting on my sorry carcass. Here's a conversation with the big boss I can imagine in one of those monitoring centers in Hawaii, or Langley, or down the street. It's kind of a "B" movie version, but it goes like this.
"This lunatic eats vegetarian food? That's a red flag right there! We'll have to keep an eye on that commie bastard! He visits national parks, obviously casing the joint for an assault on the nations wild edible plant collection. Maybe he's planning to occupy the forest? This guy is obviously, dangerous a real sick bastard. I think it's time to terminate this puke. Do we have any of Sheriff Joe's police drones in the area? Let's hit him with a mini missile! He'll never know what hit him. Have the street sweeper get rid of the body, and any collateral damage in the area a few squirrels, maybe some trout. Let's see if we can get this cleared up before lunch OK boys.I have a fundraiser at 10:00, then the speaker and I have 12:00 o'clock tee time at the Arlington country club. "Now Chop Chop"
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Jun 19 2013: A valid question!Jun 19 2013: It's not like I have anything to hide, but I'm enraged with this. It is a violation of the freedom of expression -well, not that it properly existed until now, but this was the final blow. I'm not even American! Yet, most social media are based in the USA. EVERY CITIZEN OF THE WORLD (american, european, I don't really care) has the right to express themselves freely in any kinds of media. Let's not make fun of ourselves, we have ALWAYS been supervised in a way or another -but now, with the NSA, which is known to exist by many people, most of us have realised it. We have to react. If we don't, we're all going to go crazy.
Jun 24 2013: i totally agree with your point of view that we should have our Freedom or right of expressionJun 18 2013: Most of the people don't really care for it unless NSA sells their privacy to third party, In fact I am also not too much worried about these issues because I just know that I don't have any personal data of mine on the Internet and I see this as the right approach, So it doesn't bothers me.
Don Anderson
Jun 17 2013: Arkady, your entire argument is based on a false premise, and is resulting in all of your argument being incorrect.
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Your accepting the lie that NSA is collecting data to stop terrorist and that it is not everyone's personal data.
Let's review the facts:
*Democrats (who are known compulsive liars) clam it has foiled attacks, but will not give examples.
* The program did not foil, ID, or help captor the Boston marathon bomber.
* They are collecting personal data from China, Hong Kong, Europe and many others who countries that have no connection to terrorist.
You should agree information is power, and if you look past the lies you will see that this is just a massive power grab. And unless you belief the government should have all controlling power, you should also be against this.
isabel damon
Jun 15 2013: Judging from the vicious attacks by msn, yahoo, and the other usual suspects, all owned by the same masters, it seems obvious that Snowden really made them angry. This alone would point out that Snowden did in fact release the genie from the bottle and left all the filthy cockroaches scrambling to do damage control. In one slam piece, the usual suspects say that all Americans knew about this spy program back in 1999. How ludicrous is that. Most Americans today still don't even know about the Prism scandal, that is a tragic fact. And most never knew about Prism in any year, let alone the last 14 years. I see what they are doing. Tell the undereducated they are soooo smart and already knew about the spy program and sneak in the conclusion they should arrive at, that Snowden is oh so bad. Snowden is a hero no matter how many slanderous attack pieces they write on him to try and convince everyone to turn a blind eye while they kill him for spilling the truth. Not going to happen. We will remember this along with all the other low down manoeuvres this shady spying government has pulled in the past.
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Jun 14 2013: No. There is always some purported benefit to get the public to accept overreaching. And then it is eventually abused, because humans are less than perfect and justify/rationalize their own corruption. And then the corruption becomes common.
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Arion Horn
Jun 14 2013: Transparency: Full and Absolute. Any and all communications should be open and available for scrutiny. This would and does create such deluge as to be incomprehensible to anything but super-computers, ones like the NSA and their co-conspirators like Google, Yahoo! and Facebook can deploy. The problem is not in these companies allowing the NSA access but rather in their lack of sharing these data sets with the public including any corporate competition. If the intelligentsia are the only ones with access to the combined data sets then there exists a serious threat to democracy.
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That's why I signed this petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD
Jun 14 2013: Thank you, will do, will forward.Jun 13 2013: I am more concerned with the secrecy of it. Any intrusion into our freedom should not be secret and just because the president and congress knows about does not make it right.
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Jun 14 2013: He's not a loser, he's a patriot, who did this for the public good. And if you think they're going to release any information on the system being abused, well you're just nuts. Military and federal career success 101, NEVER admit to any wrongdoing, NEVER admit to any flaw. Massage what Colbert refers to a "truthiness".
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Jun 14 2013: AA your right, but the phrase, just for your edification is "Deny, Deny, Deny"Jun 13 2013: In practical terms _ I dont mind. But if I start up a terrorist group I'd probably have to be extra careful and consider using some some sort of code and possibly more non virtual social interaction.
In theory - We could go anywhere, but so far what are the actual consequences - basically it means more tools for 'the police' (or big brother, the cia, the men in black etc) - basically I think we're debating whether we want the police to have more or less power/technology. Sorry I Just cant get riled up about the purely philosophical problem of free speech ( I know! WTF) We're all in this society together; the us vs them attitude is simply the continuation of conflict, which just leads to more conflict.Jun 13 2013: No. And neither should anyone else be. Not in the name of anything. Or anyone. And certainly not in the name of the latest boogie monster called "terrorism". But go ahead. Keep listening to the scare tactics. When you realize you lost your freedom, let me know. Oops, gone!Jun 12 2013: What they are doing is criminal, unconstitutional, and worse. I watched as Mr Boehner called the [snitch] a traitor. What a load of horse manure. If anything Mr. Snowden is a patriot and a hero for telling on the NSA. I am ashamed of my country for this intelligence gathering from it's citizens. The really bad part is that they expect us to believe they are not actually listening. What a crock! Whats worse, most of the sheeple will believe them.Jun 11 2013: Sure, I have nothing to hide, the problems is what are they going to do with the information they collect, can we truct the government to keep it private? or will they try and sell that information to others? will employers have access to the information collected?, so as you can see is not what information they can collect from me as I said I have nothing to hide but if someone can find out that I have a disease that could be debilitating will I be able to still apply for a job? or life insurance?or I am gay or belong to a religious group or I might be an aceist...will that allow others to discriminate against me?Jun 10 2013: I wonder how they would react to people haking into their information. A democratic leadership is supposed to work for the people, not spy on them.
The government can spy on its citizens, but when the citizens spy on the government, it is considered a crime. Wikileaks levels the playing field.Jun 8 2013: i imagine it's like looking for a needle in a haystack except now there are robots that dedicate their existence to looking for needles.
the worst thing about this is talking to all the people in grey - you know the good consumers that can't think until an advert has told them what to think - that respond with "well, I've got nothing to hide".
This argument is arse-backwards.
you have a right to privacy and because you have nothing to hide is the reason that this should not be happening. but we gotta get them terrorists, right?
Jun 8 2013: No, we don't have to get them we can let them get us.
I don't necessarily associate people living an honest open life as being a subspecies of some mentally elite social structure. There are many forms of Privacy. We give up our privacy when it presents opportunities to us. Like mutual protection. We give up our privacy to our doctors, employers, etc. It's not some innate liberty that is fixed in stone all the time. It is mutually associative and based on a sense of mutual trust.
The President has, almost, every conversation they speak recorded. The president gives up a large portion of the civil privacy in order to properly perform their job. You don't have the right to anything unless it is mutually agreed. Your very life is in the hands of others, more so, than it is in your own hands.
Jun 12 2013: we give doctors and the like our confidence, not our privacy, and it's usually for a good reason (eg. medical history).
when people who don't know me (or associate with anyone I know) monitor me in the name of one thing which may or may not be just some spin doctoring, then I get a bit wary.
the only people we should be monitoring are the people spending our tax dollars - in other words, the bureaucrats and officials elected and working for the tax payers. the president should have to do everything relating to the public on camera at all times. it might even separate the wheat from the chaff.
i'm sure the camera will eventually reveal that nobody is perfect. this is the reason why we should never trust in systems
Barry Palmer
Jun 8 2013: No, I am not comfortable.
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I am even less comfortable with all the data that private corporations collect about me. Since that data is their property, they would probably give a copy of it to the government just for the asking, without even notifying the consumers.
My attitude toward this is that fighting it is futile. A better response would be to insist that all of that government data should be made public. If not completely public, at least available through a Freedom of Information request. That way we would at least know what the government knows.
Jun 8 2013: We would also know what each other is up to if it were made public. :)
I'm sure google and facebook along with the other data mining businesses would love for it to be public domain.
And yes, I'm not real comfortable with the idea. We won't really know the real ramifications until some future date if we are effected by the government having our data or not. If they do get carried away, we can always vote them out of office and vote in some people who will get rid of or rewrite the law.
At least they haven't taken that away from us..... yet.Jul 7 2013: What amazes me about this, is how now it's become so pervasive, no-one seems to give it a second thought, or hardly care.
Some justify it, as a way to stop terrorists, if this is the price, freedom, we'd better wake up and ask is it worth it, because when all the laws are changed and all the freedoms gone, you can bet that last dollar, they wont come back.
As for they are not interested in you, your life is boring. It's true, I and you may well be a no-body, they does not mean we have no-rights.
Yet we never seem to realize that just because a corp is a corp, or the NSA is the NSA, that because they do it, it somehow makes it all ok.
It's clearly they (the NSA) have broken the constitution, yet no-one either wants to, or does take them to task over it. Which says very little for the morality and sense of justice (real and implied), or importance placed in the constitution by corp's, government or for that matter - the president.
And so the intrusion carries on, to now retail stores war-driving your smartphone. Which if YOU were to do, it would be illegal and you'd end up in jail. No-one seemingly asks when they can a store do it, and not face the same punishment as you?
Seems to me that the individual rights are being swept away, and corps and government are immune, or rather the law's that we have to abide by don't apply to them...
If it carries on this way, and as no-one seems to be ending it nor opposing it with extreme prejudice, the yellow brick road we're blindly following means we'll all end up slaves of the state.
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Milo Kelley
Jun 28 2013: Paul Lillebo stated "Rather than starting from the view of outraged individuals (most of the writers here), what if we look at the problem from the other end? Obama is inaugurated, international terror is an actual, serious threat, and the new President is charged with protecting the people of the U.S. against terror groups, some of which have announced that the U.S. is one of their main targets. The people want to be able to fly safely, so how does he go about gaining information on these groups before they commit their acts of destruction? They obviously do their planning by communicating with each other, so how does he get information about their communication?"
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Everything we do in life has some risk. For those with high risk we usually through training, changing the way we do something, or some other means, reduce the risk to an acceptable level. Thinking in terms of risk and risk reduction, this is how a President and our leaders address the issue. The questions to them as with all of us are what is the actual risk and what are we willing to do/give up to reduce it?
Do you believe that someone or group whether small or large can do something similar to 9/11 unnoticed using methods that do not include scooping up every bit of meta data for every signal sent in space or on line? Using greatly less intrusive collection methods, I believe no one or a group can create the same level of destruction as happened on 9/11. Would I as President take such a risk? The answer is yes. If our leaders were concerned about death, they would have figured out better ways to reduce highway deaths. Each month for decades more people day on the highway then on 9/11. So it isn't the deaths they are concerned about.
Also, there are numerous means to store this data for their use without it being in the Government hands. So again, I suspect there are other reasons for the collection of this massive amount of data and it isn't just to protect us from the bad guys.
Jun 28 2013: Very interesting and thoughtful comment. One risk of the President and other powerfully placed individuals is the sustainability of power. Although the primary objective of the collection of personal information and intrusion of privacy are risks to the people of the United States, I think there is an issue of other, more personal, risks being addressed through these actions. Data and information is a tool of power.Jun 27 2013: the people who would really have an issue about the whole NSA are the people who have something to hide or probably the one who thinks that the government of united states have a thing against them!
spying on potential trouble makers can't be just overruled but spying each and every one over the internet in the name of the light of all this is totally a different thing
Imagine a situation where an influential person who might have some big reforms for the world in the deck is getting compromised for personal interests since they have got some dirt over the internet.
In short this time the American government has overdone their own track record!
spying everyone can't be justified on any grounds
Susan Cogan
Jun 27 2013: I think just a glance at the career of J. Edgar Hoover should show you what's wrong with government collecting your data. They will abuse that power. It is almost irresistible. Remember the General Petraeus scandal? Someone in the government searched his emails without a warrant and they couldn't have got one because he wasn't even accused of any crime. They just did it. Period. And yes, if someone "has it out for you" (as Hoover did for MLK) they can ruin or damage you out of pure spite. And they will if they can. THAT is why the government can't be collecting our data. I have nothing to hide. But I know that someone running for public office might have said something really nasty or disgusting in an email 30 years ago when they were a teenager and all you need to ruin them is find it and "leak" it. I'm not worried about Big Brother. I'm worried about plain old human maliciousness.Jun 27 2013: I feel so encouraged when I see so many wonderful participants on these TED conversations. We all know that the NSA is spying on us all. But why should anyone worry about that? After all, they are only keeping us SAFE, right?
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I think if we all just join hands and sing a nice song together then we will all be positive and stop being negative and mean and stuff like that. But then again, how do you all sing songs on TED?
I don't know, I just like watching the videos. I can download them faster than I can play them!
Blade Runner
Jun 25 2013: Curious here folks...............since I've been on TED it has become obvious to me that TED is nothing but a big 'talk fest' and bitching/venting session with everybody wanting 'SOMEBODY ELSE' making the world a better place for them, the bitchers and venters!
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How many of you bitchers/venters/ Iphone generation are actually willing to put your head on the line?
Just asking!
Jun 25 2013: Hi, BR.
Here's a thought - everybody here, whatever the background, opinion, thoughts, hopes, everybody on the internet, whatever the background, opinion, thoughts, hopes, everybody not hiding in the woods, everybody, iOS, Android or analog, is somewhere "on the line". You included.
Cheers and best wishes.
Jun 25 2013: Don't know about you and the others Anna ..................but I'm here (on TED) just because I'm curious........
I haven't ....................... come here for forgiveness
or come to raise the dead
or come here to play Jesus
to the lepers in anybodies head!
Jun 25 2013: Good to know.
Best wishes.Jun 25 2013: I will when death holds no sway over me or when i long for it like so many elderly i know but as my people always say "Death comes" I suppose the Q should be "What would you die for?"
Blade Runner
Jun 25 2013: Ponder..........Maybe the question you should have asked and not stop asking is..........'What have I lived for, and what do I live for?"
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Dead is a long, long time!
Jun 26 2013: Excellent post, it made me think.Jun 26 2013: Hi Ken,
Does it always have to go to that extreme for everyone? I believe the small things can make a difference too.
Take a look at this video. Such simple acts of kindness, but by the end of it your heart may feel as if it will burst from love overload. :)
Jun 26 2013: No Maddy it doesn't have to go to the extreme and yes the small things do matter but blade was talking about what that young analyst did and more and then slapping the teddies for not acknowledging it or deliberately agitating for personal gratification or to invigorate and insert a patriotic feel for everyone or just got tired of the usual conversai and wants to troll for a while.
What would you give your life for?
I'll check out that vid now while i have a spare moment.Jun 26 2013: I would die for my children.
I am giving my life to helping educate and empower others through 3D animation and "serious" video games/game elements. I truly believe my work (in small ways) helps make the world a better place. :)


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Governor releases Irene storm recovery reportTHE ASSOCIATED PRESS | April 09,2013MONTPELIER The state is on schedule to close most residents Tropical Storm Irene-related government aid cases by late summer, meaning they will have safe housing by the second anniversary of flooding that damaged more than 7,000 homes, according to a report released Monday by Gov. Peter Shumlin.
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Lullaby for A Sadist
Someone please tell me what happened to that damn song. For the love of all that is good please.
I will quote something
"We're always constantly writing songs. Fuck, I've got like 20 songs. We did three of them, and we'll keep recording some more. I take the Miko on the road with me, and I'm constantly writing. I've got at least 15 that are ready to be recorded. One song I finished is called "Lullaby for a Sadist." It's different for Korn. You have to hear it! There's acoustic guitar on it. It gets very heavy, and it's really dark. It's about a guy who loves inflicting pain on people and how he gets off on it. It's really cool! It's always fun because I'll write a song let Munky get a hold of it and he'll put his flavor on it, and it turns into a whole different monster. It's really cool.
Read more at http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/jonathan-davis-of-korn-talks-disturbed-tour-discovering-the-cure-acid-bath-and-more/8167471#gZz7b0CXHFLHqFjC.99 "
This, HAS to be my most sought after song ever. I really wish someone had some inside information on this if JD will EVER release this track.
"You all say there is no divine God, but when the world comes crashing down and it is on the verge of destruction, we will see who scrambles to find their faith, and for someone to save you"
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I like what I hear so far. Dude when are they putting out the first single?
Does it make me bad??
Re: Lullaby for A Sadist
the song on the teaser is called 'never never' I heard munky (I think) talk about it in an interview (think it was download festival)
but look forward to this song, I always enjoy their darker songs, kind of reminds me of the TOOL song - prison sex, as it has the same meaning
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A no-holds-barred PowerPoint presentation has forced parents and teachers to confront the tough issues of adolescent sexuality and what constitutes proper and age-appropriate educational conversation.
Choice and Consequence, produced by Tom Dunn at the Emerald Coast Children's Advocacy Center, was made to show students how their actions, particularly sexting, cyberbullying and inappropriate touching can affect their future.
But its use of terms like "vaginal penetration," "prostitution," "masturbating" and "genitals" has riled some parents at Liza Jackson Preparatory School.
Principal Mary Gunter said Wednesday she's spoken to or met with "about 20" parents upset by the CAC's presentation.
Take a look at the presentation for yourself. Warning: It contains explicit definitions of sex crimes. >>
The complaints have come in the week and a half since the PowerPoint was shown to students in the fifth through eighth grades. Dunn and officials at the CAC said they've also fielded some limited criticism.
"They're not negative to the idea of letting children know about the dangers of sexting and cyberbullying," Gunter said of the parents she's spoken to. "Where they had a problem was with the use of explicit language. I think some kids were uncomfortable and some asked their parents what some of these words meant."
There also were questions raised about allowing fifth-graders, mostly 10-year-olds, to watch the presentation, said several parents who contacted the Daily News but declined to speak on the record.
The CAC stood firmly behind its presentation.
"We stand behind the content and the age appropriateness," said Jen Floro, the agency's public relations director.
Dunn, who has been the CAC's case advocate since 1998, said the words parents found offensive "were taken right out of the state statutes."
He said he believes it is important for children to realize what the laws say and how crossing the line with inappropriate behavior can impact their lives.
"It's important for them to understand what the legal ramifications are and the choices you can make so you can make good choices," Dunn said.
Dunn put together his Choice and Consequence PowerPoint about five years ago at the request of a Walton County middle school, according to CAC Chief Executive Officer Julie Hurst.
The presentation has been made to about 10 schools, and Hurst said the complaints lodged by the Liza Jackson's parents were the first the CAC has fielded.
"Before this it's been very positive feedback from students and teachers," said Dunn. "The students asked a lot of questions afterward."
Middle school students need the type of information the presentation provides because in many cases it is their age group that are victims, Dunn said.
As an agency formed to protect the victims of child abuse and prevent it from happening, the CAC knows how important education is in today's social media crazy world, Hurst said.
"I'm sorry we have to put on this type presentation," she said.
Dunn spoke of talking with 13-year-old girls who had been manipulated into sex by an adult. "They said, 'I didn't expect it to go that far and when it did I didn't know what to do.' "
"A lot of people don't want to believe what's happening. We see it every day," Hurst said. "We can only hope at least one child who views that presentation won't be a victim."
The CAC's staff did say it welcomed the input from the Liza Jackson's parents and intends to recommend in the future that schools showing Choice and Consequence screen the material beforehand and notify parents of its subject matter.
The agency also will recommend that the PowerPoint program be presented to different age groups at different times, Dunn said.
Gunter said she will meet with her leadership team in mid-February to discuss options to ensure that students and staff aren't blindsided by a presentation in the future.
Parental notification, opt-out options and even a parental pre-screening of material will be on the table, Gunter said.
Kay McKinley, Okaloosa County's deputy superintendent of schools, said she was aware of Choice and Consequence and said the school district's principals were "blown away" by the raw nature of the content.
The school district has not been approached by the CAC about providing the presentation to students and wouldn't agree to do so, she said.
"In my opinion I feel it is not the school district's job to be disseminating this kind of information," she said.
Walton County Superintendent of Schools Carlene Anderson said Dunn had approached her two weeks ago about making the presentation available.
"We're looking for some good information on sexting. Kids need to know about this. It's dangerous," she said.
Anderson said she wanted to speak first to school administrators before making any decisions and was hesitant to commit to doing anything with the CAC's presentation.
She said "parental rights" will play a large role in any decision about bringing up the topic of sexting in Walton County schools.
Dunn did say the CAC would be happy to tailor any presentation to the desires of the audience.
The agency also announced plans this week to present a program Feb 28 called Darkness to Light, intended to educate parents about the dangers their children face.
"This program shifts responsibility to parents," Hurst said.
"Maybe if parents don't want kids to view this type program, they will take it upon themselves to come forward and participate," Dunn said.
The program is tentatively scheduled for 6 p.m. at the CAC headquarters in Niceville.
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Wonderfeet Kids' Museum moving up the streetBy Gordon Dritschilo
Staff Writer | April 23,2013The Wonderfeet Kids Museum is moving up the street.
The museum, a project of the Rutland Creative Economy group, announced Monday it will relocate to the former Art and Antiques on Center location at 17 Center St.
Gus Louras approached us and offered us a great deal on the space, so well be moving this summer, organizer Chris Ettori said, adding that the museum only has to pay for the utilities on the space. I guess its a lease its rather informal.
Ettori said they had similar arrangement at the location they have used during the last two summers, half a block down in a former furniture store.
The difference is, that was an understanding we would just be there during Friday Night Live, he said. Here, we intend to be there three to four days a week.
The announcement comes as the group gears up for its first major fundraiser of the year, a pig roast from 4 to 10 p.m. April 30 that Roots the Restaurant will host.
Therell be food, drinks, music and, of course, kids entertainment, Ettori said.
The museum, which until now has only operated one or two days a week seasonally, is working toward opening a permanent facility organizers hope will become a regional destination, similar to the Montshire Museum of Science.
Were excited theyre going to have a semi-permanent home, said Michael Coppinger, executive director of the Downtown Rutland Partnership. We hope theyre going to be there three or so years as they get bigger and better. This is exactly the demographic we wish to attract to downtown families.
The new location is smaller by about 500 square feet, so Ettori said they expect to rotate exhibits more. The museum will be staffed by volunteers, so the schedule will be dictated by volunteer availability. Ettori said they are still recruiting volunteers.
The group also needs to come up with an exact fundraising goal. Ettori said they hoped that with money they have raised previously, he hopes the pig roast will bring cash on hand to about $12,000.
I dont know exactly where we are right now, but weve done some work already, he said. Were hoping the pig roast will put us over the top.
In the short run, Ettori said the group wants to pay for the space and the next level of exhibit. One notion is to have a sort of model marble quarry.
Kids could dig out the marble, put it on the train from the quarry, he said.
Organizers also expect to sit down in the next month with GE and Advanced Animation, a company that makes museum exhibits, to discuss some sort of display on robotics.
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This may be one of the weirdest movie mash-ups of all time. Perhaps proof positive that some people have too much time on their hands? Take a classic like The Wizard of Oz, and mix it up with Avengers: Age of Ultron, and what do you get? Avengers of Oz: Age of Tin Man, of course. It's pretty creepy and pretty funny all at the same time.
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Why, Kanye, Why?
By now, you've probably heard that - despite 150,000 petition signers who begged for it not to happen - Kanye West headlined the Glastonbury Festival over the weekend. He got stage-stormed by a local comic - that was pretty cool, him getting a dose of his own medicine. But once the dust had settled from that, Kanye did something unforgiveable. He "performed" a cover of Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody." He hit every third note, which is about as many of the lyrics he got right. I'm sorry, it was atrocious. But don't take my word for it - check it out yourself. Don't worry, it's a short video...
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Maybe You Should Stick with Footballs, Aaron
Olivia Munn posted a pretty cool video to Instagram on Sunday. It shows her working on her sword skills - which are pretty impressive - as she preps for a role in an upcoming X-Men movie. Behind her, Aaron Rodgers - her boyfriend and quarterback of the Green Bay Packers - works on his considerably less impressive stick-waving skills, trying to mimic Olivia's moves. It's pretty funny - and proof positive that Aaron's better off tossing a pigskin around than being trusted with a sword. Learned some new tricks... A video posted by Olivia Munn (@oliviamunn) on Jun 28, 2015 at 2:35pm PDT
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Um, Donald, You're Fired!
Donald Trump is getting hit from all sides, but he really doesn't seem to care. Yesterday, the National Broadcasting Company issued a statement: "At NBC, respect and dignity for all people are cornerstones of our values. Due to the recent derogatory statements by Donald Trump regarding immigrants, NBCUniversal is ending its business relationship with Mr. Trump." The Donald's been at the center of a political firestorm after making tremendously derogatory statements about Mexico and Mexicans in his presidential campaign kick-off speech. And his official statement on the end of his relationship with NBC? "As of today, Donald J. Trump is no longer affiliated with NBC. Mr. Trump stands by his statements on illegal immigration, which are accurate. NBC is weak, and like everybody else is trying to be politically correct--- that is why our country is in serious trouble." So, no more wondering who's getting fired next on The Apprentice - since the guy who does the firing has been fired. (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); WATCH: NBC says it's cutting ties with Donald Trump, but Trump says he's also ending his relationship with NBC. He's not going to apologize for his "accurate" comments, accusing some Mexican immigrants of bringing drugs, crime and rapists to the U.S. http://cbsn.ws/1IoBIXZ Posted by CBS News on Monday, June 29, 2015
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Wait! The Peacock is Gay?
We talked yesterday about all the brands that are going with rainbow-branding in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling on marriage equality. Here's something no one expected. A guy in Little Rock took to Facebook to lambaste KARK-TV - an NBC affiliate - for changing the station's logo "with the colors of gays." He called it a "disgrace" and vowed to watch the ABC affiliate from that point on. The NBC peacock has been the network's symbol since they went to "living color" techology - which dates back to the late 50s. Check out the video sequence underneath the Little Rock Rant. #AR Bigot Don Stair Gets Mad At NBC For Changing Their Logo To The 'Colors Of Gays' http://t.co/22jlW6mp4W #UniteBlue — Jim Simonson (@JimSimonson) June 29, 2015
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Wondering What's Going on in Greece?
The tiny island country of Greece - not insignificant, as it is the birthplace of Western Civilization - is in a real financial bind right now. The banks are closed to prevent a run on their money, and people are limited to withdrawing the equivalent of $67 or so a day from their ATMs. The banks will stay closed until next week, and the people of Greece will be voting over the weekend to see if they'll stay in the European Union or not. A mess. Want to know what's going on? Here's a 60-second summation, courtesy of CBSN, the official site of CBS News... (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); With Greece on the brink of default, and possibly leaving the eurozone, what does it mean for the Greeks, Europe and the global economy? CBS News business analyst Jill Schlesinger breaks down the origins and effects of the Greek debt crisis. Posted by CBSN on Monday, June 29, 2015
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Katy Perry versus The Nuns
No, it's not a lip sync battle of any kind. It's an honest to servant-of-God fight between Katy Perry and two Los Angeles nuns. Here's the deal. The Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary convent is for sale. It sits on top of a hill with a nice view of downtown LA and the San Gabriel mountains. The nuns have offered to sell it to a restaurateur for $15.5 million. Only problem: the archbishop of LA is trying to sell it to Katy Perry for $14.5 million. Now, there's a huge argument about who has the right to sell the convent - the nuns who have called it home, or the archdiocese in which it sits. Katy tried to negotiate directly with the nuns. One of them, Sister Rita Callanan, was quoted by The Los Angeles Times. "Well, I found Katy Perry and I found her videos and…if it's all right to say, I wasn't happy with any of it," The matter is now being handled legally. But Katy Perry, beware. You may have to answer to a higher court...
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The United States Supreme Court's ruling on marriage equality was cause for celebration all across the country. Sure, there are nay-sayers - that's a huge surprise, right? But, it didn't take some major brands very long to hop onto the Rainbow Bandwagon. Check out a few of the tweets from over the weekend from some very recognizable brands... You can bet there will be plenty more to follow. We're celebrating #MarriageEquality and saying 'I Dough, I Dough!' Story > http://t.co/F3wCL9mfKc #LoveWins #All50 pic.twitter.com/ggxOUNINmQ — Ben & Jerry's (@benandjerrys) June 28, 2015 Homo Estas? Very well, thank you. #LoveWins pic.twitter.com/5tXeGHxR8l — Chipotle (@ChipotleTweets) June 26, 2015 J-E-L-L-O is for everyone. So is L-O-V-E. #DecisionDay #Pride pic.twitter.com/xw4pHTcodF — JELL-O (@JELLO) June 26, 2015
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On Friday, President Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Clementa Pinckney, one of the victims of last week's horrendous shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina His words were strong, emotional and poignant. And at the end, he led the crowd in singing "Amazing Grace." A powerful moment...
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Cat Fight Coming?
Like things aren't already unpleasant enough in the Kardashian-Jenner clan. Official word that Kendall Jenner has eclipsed her half-sister Kim Kardashian on social media. Kendall's picture of herself, lying on the floor in a white lace dress, had more likes that the picture that Kim shared of her kissing Kanye West at their wedding last year. take that KimYe! RT @JennerNews: Kendall has outshined KimYe by having the most liked Instagram photo! Congrats ❤ pic.twitter.com/DmdXEFbudT — Kendall Jenner (@KendallJenner) June 26, 2015 How'd you like to be a fly on the wall at their house on the 4th of July?
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Nia Vardalos is hard at work on the sequel to My Big Fat Greek Wedding. You can tell. Look at the on-set pic she posted to Instagram a few days ago. She "managed" to catch co-star John Corbett shirtless. However did that happen? The film's set for release in March of 2016. Right now, the description on IMDb is pretty tame: "The continuing adventures of the Portokalos family. A follow-up to the 2002 comedy, 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding.'" That helps a lot, don't you think? Is someone trying to get baptized again in #MyBigFatGreekWedding2 ? A photo posted by Nia Vardalos (@niavardalos) on Jun 25, 2015 at 9:55pm PDT
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In Case You Were Wondering, Teresa Giudice is Happy with SCOTUS' Decision
Relax, everyone. Teresa Giudice is in line with the United States Supreme Court. On Saturday, she tweeted out her support of the justices' ruling on marriage equality. Finally some good news coming out of a court! #Justice&Equality4All #LoveWins — Teresa Giudice (@Teresa_Giudice) June 28, 2015 In case you're wondering just how tough the prison in which she's incarcerated is, allowing her to tweet at all, no worries. US Weekly confirms the tweets are being made by Teresa's 14-year-old daughter.
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Jimmy Fallon missed doing The Tonight Show on Friday night. He has a good excuse, and a note from his doctor. After taping Thursday's show, Jimmy went out for a bite to eat at a local restaurant. After leaving the restaurant, he had an accident that required emergency surgery. He's okay. In fact, he tweeted all about it. Check out the whole story. Tweeting with one hand. pic.twitter.com/1Yyp8Nl5eR — jimmy fallon (@jimmyfallon) June 26, 2015 Tripped and caught my fall (good thing)! Ring caught on side of table almost ripped my finger off (bad thing). — jimmy fallon (@jimmyfallon) June 26, 2015 #drugged #blessed — jimmy fallon (@jimmyfallon) June 26, 2015 I'm doing well and thanks for good wishes everyone. — jimmy fallon (@jimmyfallon) June 26, 2015
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Ed Sheeran Gets Stoned
Look who joined the Rolling Stones on stage at Arrowhead Stadium in Kanas City on Saturday night. Ed Sheeran joined the boys - okay, old men - to perform "Beast of Burden." And it sounds pretty good. They say it took "days of discussion" to settle on that song. Days of discussion? That can't be settled with a text message? Mick: "Ed, wanna play 'Beast of Burden' with us?" Ed: "OMG. Adorbs. TTYL." Keith: "Where am I?"
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Kanye Gets Kanye'd
Kanye West is notorious for storming stages. Okay, he did it twice - once to Taylor Swift, stealing her Grammy moment, and once to Beck, before thinking twice about stealing his Grammy moment. So on Saturday night, he was stage-stormed. He was at the Glastonbury Festival across the pond, and a British comic jumped out on stage with him. The storming was short-lived - check out the video of the security guard rushing him off stage... This guy! We've got an actual streaker on stage!! #bbcglasto pic.twitter.com/7MBRyuR0Hw — BBC Radio 1Xtra (@1Xtra) June 27, 2015 Afterwards, the comic - Simon Bodkin, who plays a character named Lee Nelson - tweeted that he'd done it for Taylor Swift. Isn't that sweet? I Kanye'd Kanye. That was for you @taylorswift13 #Leezus pic.twitter.com/EQJtZUJqhS — Lee Nelson (@RealLeeNelson) June 28, 2015
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Really? Women's Sports Are Not Worth Watching?
Andy Benoit, a contributor for Sports Illustrated, caused a stir on Wednesday when he tweeted that there's nothing worth watching in the world of women's sports. This was after another writer tweeted about an exciting goal scored in a Women's World Cup match between England and Norway. Well, that didn't sit well with Seth Myers, who called in his pal Amy Koehler for a Late Night with Seth Myers segment called "Really?" aimed at Andy Benoit. They eviscerated the guy, but he took it pretty well. Check out his tweet after the segment aired, on top of the segment itself... Very well played, @sethmeyers and @smrtgrls. http://t.co/brgKgKLHWf Really. I deserved that. Sticking to football now! — Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) June 25, 2015
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"... In the Hands of a Clown"
It hasn't been a good week to be Donald Trump. It seems like everyone knows that but him. When he kicked off his presidential campaign last week, he had some pretty nasty things to say about Mexico - the country and its people. As a result, Univision - the biggest Spanish-language broadcaster in the United States - announced that it will not be associated with the Miss Universe Pageant, as The Donald is part owner. And Christian de la Fuente, who was scheduled to be one of the pageant's hosts, decided to step away from it, but not before leveling a retaliatory attack at The Donald first. Check it out... (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Mr. Trump, As a #Latino I cannot work in an event associated with your name. The statements you made against Mexicans and immigrants show that you are ignorant. It is unacceptable to launch your presidential candidacy creating rhetoric of hatred and discrimination in calling Mexicans drug traffickers and rapists. It's a shame that such an important institution as #MISSUSA is now in the hands of a clown " See more at http://goo.gl/hdj3cVDonald J. Trump Como latino no puedo trabajar en un evento asociado a su nombre... las declaraciones que hizo contra los mexicanos, contra los inmigrantes, demuestran que es un ignorante. Es inaceptable que se lance a la presidencia creando una retórica de odio y discriminacion al tildar a los mexicanos de narcotraficantes y violadores... Es una pena que una institucion tan importante como MISS USA este hoy en manos de un payaso Posted by Cristian de la Fuente on Thursday, June 25, 2015
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... And He'll Never Do That Again
How's this for justice? A guy in Brazil parked his car illegally in a handicapped spot. So while he was wherever doing whatever, some folks decided that maybe his getting a ticket wouldn't be enough. So they completely covered his car in something blue. The same color blue you'll find in your typical handicapped parking sign. They even managed to put a couple of wheelchair stick figures on the car. It's hard to tell from the video exactly what it was, but they covered every inch of it - tires to roof, hood to trunk, including all the windows. It looks like fondant - that hard, crumbly wedding cake frosting - but it could be some sort of paper too. What do you think? Lesson learned? (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); That's what happens when you park in a handicap spot in BrazilCarBuzz Posted by CarBuzz on Thursday, June 25, 2015
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You Never Know Who Might Be Stowing Away
This could be one of the funniest videos I've seen in a long time. A couple in New Guinea took a glider up for a spin, and everything was going great until they realized that a cat had somehow found its way into the glider's wing. They brought the aircraft back for a landing - it took a minute or two - with the cat hanging on for dear life the whole time. The cat appears in the upper right corner of the screen at about 20 seconds in. And check out its face when the glider finally lands. No animals were hurt in the making of this video, and that's what makes it okay to laugh.
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Fare Thee Well, John Steed
Patrick Macnee, who played secret agent John Steed in The Avengers and The New Avengers, passed away yesterday at the age of 93. Patrick's character was always dapperly-dressed, in a bowler and a suit, carrying an umbrella - which of course hid a sword in it. His co-star for several years was Diana Rigg, playing Mrs. Peel. Game of Thrones fans know Diana these days as Olenna Tyrell. You'll get a sense of Patrick's acting style from the opening and closing credits of The Avengers. Check out the video,,,
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And You Thought the Cleansing Part Was Bad...
A colonoscopy patient in Vienna, Virginia accidentally recorded his procedure back in 2013. He had set up the recorder on his phone to capture his doctor's post-procedure instructions, and forgot to turn it off. When he played it back, he realized that the doctor, the anesthesiologist and a medical assistant were talking smack about him the whole time he was sedated. They had some pretty nasty things to say about the poor guy. When he heard them all, he filed a lawsuit for medical malpractice and defamation. When you hear the recording, you'll understand why a jury recently awarded the unnamed patient $500,000.
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Carnac the Magnificent Goes High Tech
Back when The Tonight Show was piloted by Johnny Carson, he would occasionally perform as Carnac the Magnificent. Billed as a great visitor from the east, Carnac was able to use his mystical powers to divine the answer to a question that was sealed inside an envelope that he held to his forehead. Watch this clip from 1974 for a taste... On Wednesday night, Jimmy Fallon trotted out a bit he called "Brainstorm" - where he hooked up his brain with Arnold Schwarzenegger's brain, and provided the question to Arnold's answer. Same bit, done differently. And I have to say, I think the original is better. How about you? (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Brainstorm with Arnold Schwarzenegger Jimmy and Arnold Schwarzenegger link their brains for a Tonight Show "Brainstorm." Posted by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon on Wednesday, June 24, 2015
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"Listen, You're in My House..."
President Obama got heckled at a White House press conference yesterday afternoon. It's not quite clear what the heckler was yelling, but the crowd turned on the heckler pretty quickly. The President handled the situation well, but the heckler wouldn't stop. So, the heckler was removed, and the press conference went on. It's pretty neat how the President took it all in stride... (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); WATCH: President Obama smacks down heckler at LGBT pride event. http://nbcnews.to/1JjMFeQ "As a general rule, I am just fine with a few hecklers, but not when I'm up in the [White] House. My attitude is, if you're eating the hors d'oeuvres..." Posted by NBC News on Wednesday, June 24, 2015
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Keep Your Eye on the Ball!
We've seen plenty of fans in the stands catch a baseball barehanded, right? And plenty of one-handed barehanded catches, right? How about a one-handed barehanded feeding-the-baby-with-the-other-hand catches? Not so many of those - if any of those But here's one. A fan watching the Chicago Cubs play the Los Angeles Dodgers barehanded a pop-up to the right field side while he was bottle-feeding a baby. And the catch prevented Adrian Gonzalez of the Dodgers from making the play. Fan interference was called, but really, who cares? Check out the catch!
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Let's Go to Middle Earth
It's Throwback Thursday Time. This video's about a month old, but it shows a pretty amazing impressionist named Jamie Costa. He's playing Gandalf, recruiting followers to the cause. But he can only muster up Robin Williams (spot-on impression), George W. Bush (a decent impression) and Matthew McConaughey (excellent impression). What's amazing is not only what he can do with his voice, but also with his face. Check it out.
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swreader wrote:I think [Angua's] degenerated into a whiney, dog-like character
mspanners wrote:Vetinari must go, He is holding back the development of others and the city.
What has He done for the City since making extortion legal?
Prevented a war over a floating Island that would have sunk back down anyway if He had not stepped in......... thus the reason for the war would have gone away by its self........Now if He had allowed the Klatchians to have Lesp they would have sent forces to secure it. When it sank back into the Sea these forces would have been destroyed, weakening Klatch and giving the city a free win.
He is no tactician..... Carrot for King says I!
Vetinari didn't know the island would sink again. That's why he had Leonard take him underneath to find out.
Tonyblack wrote:What I like about Vetinari is the fact that he's so disconnected in some ways. He sees life as a sort of chess game and he's worked out all the possible moves in advance. It amuses him to then see that what he's predicted to himelf actually comes true.
But he's not perfect and now and again this attitude has put him into danger. One of his big surprises was discovering Vimes. He thought he knew exactly what Vimes would do in a given situation and then he found out he was wrong. To him Vimes was, he thought, a pawn, but he turned out to be a queen in chesspiece terms.
Vimes makes Vetinari's life more interesting and that's why he allows him a lot of leeway.
But Vetinari himself is one of Terry's great creations as far as characters go. Long may he rule!
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