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From a thriving industry in southeast Asia, the catch might end up on dinner plates almost anywhere in the world.
But you might be shocked to know how these fish are caught. Sometimes the boats are floating prisons crewed by slaves.
In this video report above, CNN's Dan Rivers explores the story of brothers Pheum Dina and Pheum Bolin, who were lured from Cambodia to work on the fishing boats three years ago. They say they were imprisoned on a Thai trawler for 3 months – with no pay and no chance to escape. They were slaves at sea.
The National Fisheries Association of Thailand, which works closely with the government on fishing-related issues, says it has not received reports of abuse or torture of crew in the past couple of years on Thai boats.
The chairman of the group says most crews are there of their free will. But he acknowledged some recruiters may have made false promises about pay and working conditions to some Burmese or Cambodian workers.
The association's Mana Sripitak also says it educates Thai fishermen about anti-human trafficking laws, warning that there, "could be fine(s) or jail term(s), and their boats could be confiscated if they are found guilty."
more proof that humanity is a PARASITE on the earth, and has no right to existence
I'm so sick of you idiots who think Humans are some kind of disease or plague. First off, how does one group of Humans evil act committed against another group of Humans constitute the entire species being a 'parasite'? Second, Humans are not the only species that has slavery, but I suppose you believe that Ants are parasites too, or Chimpanzees, how about Dolphins? All three have been known to enslave members of other groups or commit worse evil upon them, for instance, Chimps are known for their cannibalism. No, Humans aren't a 'parasite', we're a species of animal, just like every other species of animal that has ever existed, carrying out our most basic evolutionary drives; to reproduce, expand, thrive and dominate. We're apex predators, nothing more. Keep your silly little Human apologist ideas to yourself and off of a comment thread of a totally unrelated article.
I agree! Most humans think we are all free, only over 42% of the people in the world are inslaved or working with no pay! Our world is crupt and insane. We need more under standing people in this world.
Grace, will never happen, greed and power will always be a human trait. There is no utopia where 6 billion people treat each other equally, nor is it possible for this planet to support 6 billion people in a US middle class style of living.
being a slave sucks- but they get stuff done ie. great pyramids, mayan pyramids, Rome, and even the white house. No we got unions- I doubt the unions can even build a hoover dam again.
Because we have intelligence we are supposed to know better. Isn't that the point of being human, to rise above our animal instincts?
Thats where your wrong Mattman, ultimately we are animals, with primitive wants and desires.
Maddmaxx – I agree that ultimately we are animals and are driven by our instincts. We are also the only animal (that we know of) which is self aware and could possibly discuss whether or not our instincts are "good" (whatever that means). As humans we have the ability to rise above our instincts even if we are woefully poor at doing so.
People only rise above their instincts when humans are happy, our minds are very complex and even when humans have everything they could possibly want, we still inflict harm on others. Man will never know long term peace unfortunately, domination is a part of life. The smartest and strongest will always survive at the cost of the weak.
I notice that the people who think humans are parasites or that animals or plants are somehow more important, are still here. They are still online posting, using resources,etc. You never see the story about how they sacrificed themselves FIRST to show their level of commitment..... living the same life they are complaining about, let it be someone else I am important....lol.
Well said Noah. But the guy is troubled, and needs professional help.
define parasite:•an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host
•leech: a follower who hangs around a host (without benefit to the host) in hope of gain or advantage
Yep that sounds like you Noah... oh, btw... thanks for making me break my vowel not to blog during lent...
WOW So you extend normative ethic relativism to every living creature and why not?
Yes it would work if you established the relative intelligence to tell the difference actually existed but you have not have you?
Humans can – well it appears some can until you proved different.
But alas for you, you have not proved different you actually simply do not know anything about the derivation of ethics which forms human societies of which whether you wish to admit it or not your are a member.
Of course we can justify anything if we base it on a false premise – animals do it therefore it is OK – animals do lots of things – like attack each other in what we call public places and tear each other limb from limb – something which even you must agree given you can walk down the street does not happen often – quite as much as in the animal kingdom – we call it murder.
So it is not hard to prove your assertion completely untrue unless murder is OK as well.
You people are all morons that need to wake up.
Nothing inherently wrong with homo sapiens ... except that there are too many of us @ a staggering 7 billion. And that does kind of make us parasites -living off other species, as well as stupid – unable to control our own breeding.
@Mattman, You are aware, of course, WITHOUT unions, workers will be treated MORE like slaves. That was the whole POINT of unions. Without them, workers will get no: raises, paid time off, safety upgrades, bonuses, health benefits...hell, if bosses just don't feel like paying someone the amount they had before, they can get away with it. Who is going to stop them? Without unions, they can just fire anyone for any reason. You don't want to sleep with the boss? You're fired. This was the whole problem BEFORE unions. Yes, Unions nowadays are rife with corruptions and need to be cleaned up...just don't get rid of them altogether.
Because we are really just highly evolved,highly symbiotic colonies of bacterias that just happened to form into tissues.Looks like a plague if you model its aspect from a disconnected viewpoint.
you're wrong Noah.. most humans are evil or at the very least capable of evil acts IF the opportunity arises! All you have to do is look at the history of humankind. Even the forefathers of the US who by all means are "great" heroes owned slaves. Probably abused some as well. Doesn't matter if it's a Thai slave ship, white slavery, black slavery, human trafficking, criminal acts OR even the gangbanger who shot someone last night... humans are actually terrible creatures. You don't need to be a Christian to know that! Even the most staunch atheists support that.
Sometimes we're pissed at God when "bad" things happen but no one ever wondered why God is pissed at us!
I know I'll be if I am Him with all the shenanigans billions of us humans pull on a daily basis!
noah: WHAT A NUT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!! How did you type with that straight jacket on?
I disagree. I think most human beings are smart, compassionate, caring, truth-seeking, and general good people, except if they are Republican supporters.
The problem with some ppl is that you don't read the ENTIRE blog that someone puts out the way that someone MIGHT intend it to be read like for instance I read ineeda's opinion like this "ineeda more proof that humanity is a PARASITE on the earth, and has no right to existence" I included his name in with his statement.....
Noah, you are a fool. 'Animals just trying to breed and proliferate' or whatever it was you said...that is what a parasite does, as well. We are parasitic on the Earth. We are a parasite of the Earth. Don't be angry about it, and don't be angry when someone points it out. As for having no right to exist...well, nothing has a 'right' to exist. We either exist, or we don't – its that simple.
Get off your fkn high horse, as they say...don't they say that??
We are doomed to extinct ourselves, if we can't get our heads out of our asses and work for the common good what's the purpose. This shitty ass government no matter what party you are, can not even come to an understanding of 900 trillion dollar budget we owe china. They talk about saving 6 trillion in 10 years. We will never get out of debt. Its a reality. Americans are selling out there own American brethren for a price. Its nothing different from how the Africans sold their African brethren in the slave trade. We are doomed and the ones that survive have nothing to look forward to, except a dry husk of a planet trying to survive. This is reality. As long as their is greed and anger we will never survive.
Please elaborate on how dolphins torture one another. Please I can't wait to hear this.
You're a moron. How is it correct to compare humans and animals? We have morals, a conscience, and a brain much more powerful than any animal. We have the capability to think through our ideas and not go off our first instinct. And THAT is why we are parasites, because with everything i just said we still find ways to be evil, inhuman, S.O.B.
Okay most humans may not be parasites...Just Republicans and Tea-Baggers are...If they had their way labor unions and social programs would not exist.... We would all be enslaved by the wealthy since they seem to think they know what is best for us...By the way...Is any of this fish being purchased by Wal-Mart...Seems like the type of labor standards they
support for international labor.
Bravo; una sola persona con cerebro>>>>>>
Can I just call you a smart chauvinist?
yeah! your're right! We all have rights of freedom, aren't us? People are so stupid to have a slave of the same person as us. How could they?
Sorry, Noah, but I gotta agree with Ineeda. You ask if Ants, Chimpanzees and Dolphins as also parasites. No, because they control their populations and they don't kill their own the same way we do. It is exclusively we humans that will abuse, enslave, torture, and murder our own kind, purely for selfish purposes. The earth WILL be much better off once we have wiped ourselves out.
JanetMermaid, this is a myth. Animals do *not* control their populations. The environment controls it for them. That is, they will exploit available resources, and then starve off until their population gets back under control, or they have predators who keep them in check. Moreover, animals can and do fight and kill each other over all kinds of things – mates, territory or simply from aggression.
Moreover, it's pretty ironic to respond to news of cruelty to human beings with misanthropic statements, especially ones of the magnitude ineeda and you have made. To say that the Earth will be "better off" without us is meaningless unless you define what criteria "better" is to be judged by in any case.
I'm sorry, but your idea that only humans are capable of "sin" is a misconception.
Orcas play volleyball with baby seals... and eat them afterwards. Dolphins have been similarly observed, except that their "ball" is usually other baby dolphins. Animals like hamsters and gerbils will occasionally eat their own babies. Some species of primates are able to organize mass-killings of other groups of primates when they encroach into their environment.
Hamsters aside, it seems that intelligence is inexorably correlated with maliciousness.
Actually, many sea mammals kill each other... dolphins, killer whales, etc. And from what we can tell, sometimes it's just for fun. Animals aren't so great. Comparing them to us is rather silly anyways. And how do you know the earth will be better off without us? That's not really something we could quantify? what is better? I'm not even sure what that means...
You shouldn't have specified Chimpanzees, since they do kill their own species purely for selfish purposes. Look it up. They are the only other known species to wage what can only be called war. Selfishness and probably sadism is the only reason they regularly raid neighboring groups of chimpanzees and proceed to kill and maim with delight. If wanton violence is the criteria for being a parasite then probably all great apes, but definitely chimpanzees and humans, qualify as parasites. Gorillas only regularly practice infanticide and orangutans primarily procreate through rape – less serious offenses than sadistic violence, perhaps.
The difference between all the other "animals" that everyone seems to be including in this discussion is that human have enough intelligence to know the difference between right and wrong. We're intelligent enough to classify ourselves as "superior" in all other aspects of our behavior, although sometimes I have to wonder.
Set an example for us Janet, eliminate yourself from our planet – it will most certainly be an improvement
The difference between us and other animals is that we have the ability to think about our choices and as far we know animals just act on instict. Also, there is no population control for us as of yet. If we take out all our resources and are forced to reduce our population(through starvation, disease, war, or w/e else may happen) then sure that will keep us in check. In the meantime we'll cause millions of extinctions, forever altering the course of future lifeforms. Most people don't look at the big picture, but this is what we do. We will eat up all the resources at one point and make it harder, if not impossible, for large scale civilizations like we have now. This is just my opinion though and here I am going off topic responding to a weird comment on these forums.
Jaime, 97% of the species that have inhabited this planet have already been extinct, the vast majority long before man became the dominant species. That being said, I believe the planet and its species will adapt and overcome anything man can do to it. Maybe not in what we would consider positive, but they would adapt and survive.
I'm sorry to say that chimpanzees are able to kill their own species and they do...if the chimp comes from a neighbouring area...
lololol i cant help you with this question
Don't feed the troll.
Mother Teresa was not a "parasite. All the Little Mothers are not parasites.
actually, Mother Theresa was a parasite. She kept many children in poverty even though she could have helped. She thought poverty would bring them closer to god.
Sorry, but trying to impress an invisible sky djinni is a crappy reason to keep children in poverty.
That is so profoundly stupid. Follow what you preach and kill yourself.
tati, killing yourself would be an act contrary to her statement that humans are inherently selfish.
Oh please, we're all slaves in one form or another.
If you work in a cubicle, you're a corporate slave.
If you're a business owner, you're a slave to the government.
etc. etc....
Your comment is so ill-informed. If you work in a cubile, you are payed and are free to leave whenever you wish. If you are a slave, you are kept against your will and often abused. You have a lot of gull to compare working in the corporate world to slavery. It is exactly your type of thinking that perpetuates the feeling of apathy that overwhelmes this country and keeps others in slavery. I can only imagine what your arguments would have been around 1860 on why slaves in America should not be freed.
Hey HCC, one correction. If you are a big enough business owner you have more of a symbiotic relationship with government.
@Jenheideman: When two people work and all of the efforts of the labor of one goes towards paying taxes, so that in effect the second is supporting the first, while the first does nothing more than pay what the two owe to Ceasar, isn't one of those two a slave? Isn't also a better system of slavery (for the master) because the master doesn't even need to take care of the slave, provide food, shelter, or medical care, as the master already has someone else doing that – the other half of the couple. Sure, the slave can leave – but it would only be to another similar set up, so where is the "freedom" in that?
wow... sounds like ineeda is another bitter kid mad at the world.. there are far more good people on this planet.. you just fail to see it because you probably can't handle your own simple problems.. mega negative human being.. probably some poser hipster pissed at anything main stream
Hey, shut up. Why don't you say something intellectually stimulating about the article instead of criticizing someones opinion. Everybody has a right to their own opinon. That is why it is an opinion and not a fact. And even then what do us humans know about anything, we are all ignorant fools. So, what is your opinion on the matter?
We are all slaves... The credit cards are the new overlords... they have 99% of all people in shackles.
There's a subtle difference between figurative shackles and literal ones.
There are always choices to what we buy and how much we consume. Most of us have more than enough clothes in our closets and food on our plates so ultimately it is a choice. Not everyone has 6 credit cards in their wallets and can live a simple life. Rare but possible.
Yes, because someone forced you to charge the items you wanted.
maybe you people forgot or just didn't know- not all slaves were forced slaves, many people actually sold themselves into slavery to pay for debt or provide for their family. This is the type of slavery today. Through credit cards, shinny cars, big homes, ect people sell themselves into slavery to the banks and credit cards who already know up front most are going to default and/or miss a payment (you are gambling that everything will go right for 30yrs, just so you can own a 30yr old house that now needs upgrades and fixing). True no one forced a person to buy anything- yet that is also like saying no one forced a drug addict to buy drugs- the media, banks, credit cards, ect all advertise & employee psychologist to determine what makes a human desire something, they employ seductive temptations with materialist promises that entice every sensation of the human body to get you to sell yourself into debt- (debt is slavery bc you will sell yourself 8hr a day to working it off). While every human must decide what they want to sell themselves for it is sheepish to think that banks and credit cards are completely free of guilty- for they devised the game, advertising, selective marketing, promotions all to temp you into falling into financial slavery- They know what they are doing and have billions invested in figuring out what compels you to buy- just notice every were you go it is none stop advertising wheather that is on billboards, tv, computer, flyers you can't go anywhere without them trying to sell you something- they exploit every weakness and natural human instinct to their profit- They really are drug dealers who offer the first few hits for free then your hooked- and all you small minded suckers think they are the innocent ones and it's the users who are at fault without even knowing that the "dealers (banks, credit)" were out to get you all along and knew perfectly well that once you have taken that loan or credit you are hooked like a drug user and will be back to sell yourself at 8-16 hours a day so you can get that "high" of easy money.
yay, and the award for most off-topic comment goes to the above!
I can remember not too long ago when such things would not be allowed, the US had safeguards ad standards but that has all but vanished, it is no all about cut throat take the money and run at any cost sales in the US, everything we stood for regarding tollerance, right and wrong have vaporized and it is all about the all mighty buck and nothing else.
We have a President that smiles in your face and stabs you in the back with promises and lies all at the same time, this is the world the US has become.
Easy way for you to improve the problem by getting rid of yourself.
then leave
Eating ocean caught fish in the first place is an unethical practice. We are rapidly destroying our oceans, and our supply of tuna and sardines are on the verge of extinction. Without tuna we lose sharks, whales and dolphins. Why do people feel the right to kill everything for either sport or food? Let's evolve a little.
You know nothing about the oceans if you think sardines and tuna are overfished. Aside from bluefin tuna, all tuna species are healthy
People need to eat, fish are a good and sustainable resource
Keep eating imported seafood and you will keep supporting slavery. How does that fit into your utopia?
Ineeda, God created us lastly in his image. Humans are not parasites. If we honor God's ways of loving others as we love ourselves, we could live in harmony. Unfortunately, there are those "wild donkeys" of prideful men and women who put themselves above God and their fellow man. And then there are those who have not had the opportunity to learn about Christ. There is a good, giving way to conduct one's life. . . if one so chooses to love God.
There is no god so you have no argument.
And some would say that YOU have no God, therefor you have no hope. Funny isn't it, that those that do believe if God and Christ, find contentment and peace in their beliefs – while those that do not find ways to tear away at them.
Belief in God or not – open the Bible, read it, and live by it's words. Call it philosophy if you will – however if "humanity as a whole" lived by it's word, this planet would be a far better place to exist. Period.
Hitler felt the same way about many of the people in Germany during WW II. i would bet other "mad men" also felt like you that humans, or at least that some are parasites. you can include Hussien, mao, stalin and more.
Oh, just shut up and fetch me a mahi-mahi, you bleeding heart.
So true – I saw this special recently on the dead zones now found in the oceans thoughout the world. It is in these zones that jelly fish seem to thrive (They don't require the same amount of oxygen & food as regular fish) In these areas the jelly fish thrive in crazy numbers while all other life is eliminated. It is so bad now that in places like Korea the fisherman sometimes do not know if it will be fish waiting for them in their nets or a mass of jelly fish. We have done serious damage to our planet and our oceans. Trouble is advanced humans have not been around long enough to really know how much damage we have done – there isw no frame of reference. Heck you have people playing political games over things like oil drilling and global warming, no wonder we all aren't on the same page. I hadn't even known about the jelly fish explosion until I saw the special on Discovery. It's all too sad.
So Ineeda are we to assume that you are INhuman or NON human? Or are you just making a statement about yourself when you say that humans are parasites? It would be hypocritical of you living as a human and enjoying whatever comforts and joys that human life provides(including using this technology made by human hands and labor) to criticize the very womb (human society) that sustains you. Yes there is ignorance and acts of evil being committed but you could use your human body, intelligence and will to do something about it rather than being a couch potato critic.
What an unthinking comment....like the rest of nature is pure and Bambi-like....
The only thing worse than the parasite part of the population is the unthinking fools who think everyone should be exterminated because of the acts committed by only some. One is evil upon a few, the other is evil against all and would be a case of true genocide.
Oh Boo Hoo! Humanity is a blight on Mother Nature! Boo Hoo Hoo!
If you really think humanity is so bad, than just off yourself. Otherwise, pass the tuna.
The parasite is the corporation. There has to be a concerted efforts by all countries to limit the political and financial influence of corporations. They only benefit the top 1%. Ideally all corporations would be dismantled, turned into cooperatives where the employees are equal owners in the company. There would be no public offering. End corporate personhood so everyone in the corporation would be accountable for its actions. Restrict the creation of corporations to the benefit of the public good. Tax the hell out of them and watch them like a hawk. http://www.thecorporation.com/
oh yeah, communism worked out so well for... uh... nobody, but it looks great on paper!
Learn your political systems mobrule. I live in a socialist country and we were barely impacted by the global downturn. We actually prospered. We have very strict controls on our banking system so they didn't take ridiculous risks. Corporations still have too much control here in my opinion. So I guess you have no problem with GE not paying any taxes.
Considering your opinion of humanity, one would think that you'd be first in line to do something to correct the existence of humans on earth...? Either remove yourself from existence or just STFU...put your money where your mouth is, as it were.
if humans are so terrible, what do you care if they have slaves and are otherwise mean to one another? hypocrite.
Ineeda, I agree with you that humans are parasites and have no right to exist. We need leadership and i was wondering if you would like to take the lead and set an example by exterminating yourself first?
Stop posting doomsday stuff, you're so negative...
Humanity is just as good as it is bad and deserves no such punishment.
This is a professional forum so, if you can't be positive don't say anything at all.
@ ineeda- If we're all parasites and you have total conviction in your comment then you should be the first to do something about it and go off yourself.
Why do we concern ourselves with primative socities and how they act?
We humans are part of nature. One could argue good or bad everything we touch is part of nature. So every action is natural. The parasite part is how we have reproduced so prolifically without controls even though we know there are are limits to resources to support overpopulation. We know better but we act with wanton abandon...because we can.
Mattman, while it is true that as far as we know, we are the only true self-aware creatures on this planet, you cannot that deny that the ability to make decisions using that intelligence is absolutely objective and has had no influence by instinct. When you choose between restaurants to eat, its really a drive to find food and ensure you can survive and mate. When you make a new friend, its derived for the need to establish an ally in the social hierarchy. When leaders debate diplomacy and war, its to increase the territory and power of our clan. In the end, most conscious thought can be traced back to either power or sex. I'm not saying this is a justification for humans to do whatever they want because we can blame it on instinct, humans have evolved as a social animal and there are rules in which society functions( like the chimpanzees or gorillas, this is also an instinctive adaptation for surviving in big groups). In the end we are just a species that has found a way to turn the odds in our favor, the instinctive lust for dominance only ensures that unnecessary institutions like slavery will never go away.
And I take it...you are a human?
What can you expect,when you're made in the image of a genocidal murderer.
They use to talk that way about the USA, today we have a secret society, We have a Social Security Class and then we have a Gifted Class. We also have slaves that work for cheap wages.
Well, you are most certainly welcome to leave at any time!
who cares its not us or amricans so what if a few people are slvaes thats how we stared usa with slaves!
I applaud the author for shedding lights on to a very serious problem. I am one of the Vietnamese boat people that went out to sea in the 80s. Our boat was pirated by the Thai fisherman. All possessions were robbed and children and women were forced to to the pirate ship and return raped. The pirates then left us, but not really. I still know people to this day scarred for ever of the trauma that these pirates did. I have heard of stories of repeating pirate (more than one attack) on the same boat and repeating rapes, also heard of forcing the boats to islands and abandon the people there with frequent pirates stopping. These Thai fisherman association window dressing statements will never convince me and the boat people who went thru the human made disaster. At the time, we suspected that Thai's government wanted to nurture these pirates to prevent the waves of Vietnamese boat people out to sea, escaping the communists. The question will be answered by history some day. I thank you the author to shed light on the area and educated me that the problem, in a different shade, is still there.
more proof nutcases are wasting our oxygen
Humans are like any other creature. There is no such thing as a "right" to exist. We just do.
Why would the planet be "better" without us? In what sense? What would the point be? Think about this, and you'll realize that your viewpoints are actually selfish and naive.
If man is a parasite with no right to existence, why are you still alive and posting on the internet, you hypocrite? Kill yourself, already.
I'd say that a bit of a harsh opinion, but I've grown to not be surprised by some of the moronic things some peolpe will say just toget a rise out of someone. How about giving us a jumpstart and killing yourself first INEEDA!!!!
Since you feel that way, you should probably start eradicating the parasite problem with yourself.
People who say this are usually the worst.
Well.... if you REALLY think that, no offense, but wouldn't you have committed suicide by now?
you do realize that does include YOU, right?
Well, why don't you lead the way smart guy...
One of the most exciting story. I've been wondering what make people keep on sailing those grueling sea. Now I know for some.
I'd do it just for the relaxing boat ride in the open ocean. Paradise really
Paradise? Really? Working day and night on a small boat in cramped conditions? Sure sounds like paradise to me, why don't you ask some of the slaves on the boat if they thing they're in paradise?
the TITLE made me laugh cuz i just have a plate like the one on the picture
So do the Mexicans that work for minimum wage in the US. Do we care, nah.
So what? Big deal, our whole prison system is the same as slavery. private instutions have been making money off of inmates to make goods for a long time, who care for that either.
That is foolishness. Our prisoners have more rights than the vast majority of the world population. Very few have any type of work to do at all. These workers are lied to and denied their basic human rights.
Your post is another example of shining idocrity and demonstrates why this nation is in the shape that it is in.
That is total B.S. The prisoners have committed crimes, the enslaved workers have done nothing wrong and it is an insult to compare them to prisoners. Shame on you.
Hawaiians have been put on restrictions of certain species to help replenish stocks. Asia's take? "More for us!"
Yes, the issue of slave labor is important. SO IS OVERPOPULATION. SO IS CONSERVATION.
Figures it would take what people go through to call some attention to this horrible slash-and-burn of the Pacific ocean. If the crews were payed well? -the media and world would be content to just sit back and watch my ocean empty.
I tend to agree with you about the Asians. They might be intelligent and technologically-advanced, but they are also the same people who think that rhino penis holds some special power. Many of them have no regard for the environment or what they are doing to the ocean's populations.
That's different from thousands who buy "male enhancement products" from infomercials? Living in the west does not mean you are superior.
shinea, IT IS UNLAWFUL IN THE WEST TO KILL SELL, OR TRADE ENDANGERED SPECIES. Most Asian countries, if they legislate at all, it is on paper only. Some places, Thailand, do have some fairly new grass roots organizations, and even a bit of government support, but the general pop's Do Not Care.
Rufus' was referring to this mentality, not comparing how some men from different regions handle insecurities.
Shines you friggin moron. His point wasn't that they're using male enhancement drugs, his point was that they're slaughtering animals for it. We have an FDA that prevents that from happening. We don't slaughter rhinos to get our male enhancement drugs. My goodness the selective reading some people do.
Honestly, here in HI we are very worried about the closer range to the nuclear plant dumping the radioactive water, searching for info on levels, currents, etc.
One point that keeps being made? Will radiation (even just the scare of) HELP the fish...even mutated and sickly, at least if people are afraid to consume then this 'locust mentality' death sentence will be granted a stay of execution. (locust mentality -breeding out of control, consuming all food resources until a place is bled dry, then moving on....so where's the plan to move on to after the Pacific in void, anyway?)
the ignorance and arrogance of mankind will doom our species soon enough
I disagree, though we cause our own pain and destruction, man is very resilient and will always find a way to overcome.
After reading a couple dozen of the blindingly stupid comments here all I can do is heave a big sigh and say:
From your fingertips to Gods screen.
Just another way to get the left wing liberal voice out on the airwaves! I am sorry, but I have no control over how other nations treat their people. Only the US Government can exercize a voice on this matter and will have little or no control over the response. It is clear to me that CNN will look to any left wing liberal story to report on! CNN refuses to report the news in a reasonalbel and honest fashion. No wonder Ted Turner dumped you!
If slavery and human rights is a 'liberal' issue of no concern to you, what do you value?
RADIOACTIVE Fish and OIL SOAKED Shrimp – Harvested from Slaves aboard Ghost ships – Oh Brave new world to have such People in it.
lol -this is Not funny, but satire helps one cope. Here's mine;
Not to worry, the oceans are almost empty for good, so that will end this slave fishing for sure! Just hang in there.
Thanks for making this news.
It has been for several decades that Thai slaved ships are dehumanizing Burmese, Cambodian, neighboring countries.
It is the fact that the immigrant workers who work in the fish auction markets.
A documentary, called Life in the Sea by Irrawaddy Magazine (www.irrawaddy.org) was just released. You could watch it at the following links. (However it is in Burmese).
It shows that how tough is the life of workers on the Thai fishing ship, much more than slaves.
They have to work days and night at the fear of Burmese navy in the Burma's sea.
Thailand does not have abundance marine resources and the only fishing ground is Burma.
The Thai trawlers slaved Burmese workers and they sneaked into Burma's sea.
Then workers explained in the documentary that they were shot by the Burmese Navy patrol.
They had to hide several days under the water until some fishing boats came to rescues them.
Some of them were shot and died at sea.
The workers in the fish markets who do separation of fish had to work several hours a day for (5000 baht salary).
The entire fishing industry in Thailand has been exploiting cheap labors from Burma and stealing Burma's marine resources.
They established many frozen factories in Mahachai areas where millions of Burmese are working in the factories.
They were paid 40 baht a day (working from 8 am to 11:00 pm) comparing with minimum wage of 120 baht a day by Thai law.
In fact, the sea foods you are eating have "dead labor".
The blood, the life, and the smell of dehumanizer.
Luckily I am vegetarian. Thanks.
Right... because your veggies are not harvested by slaves either... 🙂
you have pointed out the point of the story perfectly: Make us feel guilty about eating animal flesh.....another great crusade of the wack-job left. I'm glad you can sleep at night. I will continue to eat animal flesh until the oceans are dry or I die of heart disease. Just leave me alone.
Well, billy, then I hope you, and those like you, meet that fate soon for everyone else's sake.
I gave up eating fish as a sacrifice for the greater good. (wow, what a concept, huh)
They are critically overfished, many game species are indeed in danger of extinction. Oceanographers here in Hawaii think as little as a 5 YEAR REPRIEVE is enough to turn around this crisis level depletion of many of these species.
It won't work if all Pacific-fishing nations aren't on board. What's the alternative -a race to the finish?
It's awful that people like you cannot be bothered, (and aren't forced to by law -YET) to make some changes. (but hey, if cattle waste is the #1 pollutant of US fresh waters...don't let That cut you back, right...You like it.)
The "greater good" is a communist myth.
'just leave me alone'...boo hoo, poor baby.
Did it even occur to you to just avoid these kinds of articles? Sad little victim, someone woke you up, forced to to 'click' on this article, even forced you to scroll down and finish reading it, when all you wanted was to be left alone!!
(Can Americans possibly become any less responsible?)
b j, I hate feeding the trolls, but NO it isn't.
Dr King, Ghandi, Jesus of Nazareth -just to name a few, were Not 'communists' -Duh
so bj -You'll have to find another justification for who you chose to be.
@ hilo
No, the men that you listed are not communists. Some may argue socialists. But to suggest in your comment that those who do not agree with your views should be forced by law to bend to your world view is most definitely communist.
bj, Well then, by your own reasoning, Hawaii must be in a communist country....we are now forced by law to limit our ahi catch. I happen to agree with it, as much as I miss eating it, or the world will soon be doing w/out Forever. A law enforcing others to abide as well (banning imported) is not communism.
Almost 20 years ago, I was in Darwin, Australia, and was pleasantly surprised (being a Thai) to see 3 Thai trawlers moored at the city's main port. The crews were cooking their meals on board these trawlers, and were not, by any means of observation, to be enslaved people.
The Darwin authorities told me the Thai trawlers were contracted to fish in northern Australian waters with the catch shared between the Thai trawler owners and the Australian fishing contractors. These boats were equipped with the latest navigation and fish-sounding equipments – that was over 20 years ago.
Fast forward to Dean's report above, and Dan Rivers' main report - the very welled structured and organized Thai trawler fleet which is actually ranging around the globe, is being portrayed as nothing more than pirates cruelly using slave labor to fish in waters hugging the shores.
Keep in mind that 20 years ago, the Thai trawlewrs working (legally) in Australian waters had to take fish home to Thailand. They had on-board quick freezers and sophisticated navigation and fishing-aid equipment. And now we are being told that there are huge fish "frozen factories" on shore.
Keep in mind too, that Thai trawlers are , to these days, being seized by pirates off the coast of the Horn of Africa and off the Arabian Sea. One particular Thai fishing trawler was made infamous as it was used as the Somalian pirates' "mother ship" after it was hijacked.
In your right mind, are you sure that's the kind of fishing fleet that would harbor slave crews?
Thai fishing fleet is a world-class operation and has been so for the past 20 odd years. Sure, cheap labor has always been welcome – but slaves!!?
Also keep at the back of your mind that Dan Rivers has been widely vilified in Thailand for his exagerated, sensationalized and biased reports during the violent demonstrations in Bangkok almost exactly a year ago. So far, Dan Rivers – and CNN – has not come clean to explain the farce that he perpetrated, which, of course is always available for anyone one in the world to see for what these reports were, and what kind of a journalist Dan Rivers is.
what does those state of the art trawler have to do with the ghost trawler that enslave people in this story? Nothing. The escapee interviewed are liar? Get real man.
Burmese Fishermen Hooked On 'Asean'
HUMPHON, THAILAND—To most people, "Asean" is an abbreviation for the compound of countries known as the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, but for Burmese fishermen working in southern Thailand, it is the brewed compound of choice that keeps their energy level high during the long working hours at sea.
Asean is a liquid compound whose main ingredient is the leaf of the kratom tree, which has a proven psychoactive effect and is illegal in Thailand, Burma and Malaysia. According to the US Drug Enforcement Agency website, in Thailand kratom is classified the same as marijuana and is the third most widely abused illegal drug in the country, after methamphetamine and marijuana.
Every day, groups of Burmese fishermen in Thailand's southern provinces such as Phang Nga, Ranong and Chumphon secretly sit around a boiling pot on their fishing boat and prepare Asean. They first brew the kratom leaves; then they mix the hot kratom tea with cough syrup, instant coffee and milk.
The leaf of the kratom tree. (Photo: The Irrawaddy)
"All the fishermen here use it. Thai fishing boat owners provide the kratom leaves and all the necessary materials to make Asean in every boat," said Kyaw Naing, a fisherman working on a squid boat in Phang Nga who came to Thailand from Burma in 1989.
Kyaw Maung, a Burmese fishing boat owner in Chumphon Province, said he pays 20 baht for a package of 20 kratom leaves, which he gives to his fishermen before they go to sea. One packet is enough for three persons to drink Asean for a day.
"Asean strengthens the physical power of the fishermen. Not only I, but also other Thai fishing boat owners supply bags of kratom leaves to the fishermen," he said, adding that even the wives of Burmese fishermen in Chumphon drink Asean these days.
The problem is that Asean can be addictive if taken every day.
"I can live without eating rice, but I can't do without Asean," said Than Zaw, a 26-year-old Burmese man who works on a ferry boat in Ranong Province. He said he has been addicted to the compound since he was 20 years old.
Myint Soe, a Burmese fisherman in Ranong province, said that the sale of powdered kratom leaves has become a lucrative business in the area. He said that one kilo of kratom powder sells for 650 baht in Ranong and 900 baht in Kawthaung, the Burmese town on the opposite side of the border.
He said he was also addicted to Asean for two years, but gave it up due to health concerns.
"Asean gives us a high. But one side effect is constipation," he said. "Three of my friends have died from drinking Asean for too long."
Kyaw Maung said that three months ago one Burmese fishermen who was working on his boat jumped into the sea and died while high on Asean.
"Other fishermen saved him three or four times in the past when he jumped into the sea, but the last time he died," he said, showing the identification card photo of the dead young fisherman.
There are no statistics on how many Burmese fishermen have died due to ingesting Asean, but despite the risks they still continue to use the drug.
Having been addicted himself, Myint Soe knows full-well its dangers and addictive properties, but still extols the use of Asean, saying it is necessary to maintain the energy level required in his line of work.
"Normally at noon we are worn out and tired, but with Asean we can work non-stop," he said. "It's important that you can work as hard as others."
Burmese fishermen said that Asean has been popular for the last ten years, since the time that Phensedyl— a cought syrup made in India which the fisherman used in the same manner and for the same purpose as Asean—became no longer available.
The kratom trees that produce the pyschoactive ingredient in Asean are similar to guava trees in appearance. While they grow naturally, kratom trees that produce the leaves that are sold to Burmese fisherman are grown mostly on rubber plantations, said a Thai man who grows kratom in Chumphon Province.
Inside his compound, kratom trees grow as high as ten feet tall. He said that the police let him grow only a few trees and he sells the leaves to Burmese fishermen for 200 baht per kilo.
Fishermen in Chumphon said there are at least two or three arrests every month for possession of kratom leaves and the police fine those arrested 500 baht per leaf. But they claimed that the major distributors of the kratom leaf are the local authorities themselves.
Is this the same as buying products from Hobby Lobby Stores? I think it relates to slave (child) labor as well.
I simply dont buy from them, thats all, my conscience is clear.
'Go There'.....overbreeding, from a couple with 7 living in a trash dump in Cambodia, to an upper-middle class with plenty of money who thought it was ok to have a 3rd....(WHO reports 2 births per mother to prevent impending collapse of civilization. The world cannot handle another 'doubling.' I'm sure leading up to it will get much worse too.)
CNN, now There's a Human Interest story for you. (Yeah right....Capitalism (advertisers) depends on pop growth. No religious or political leaders are about to tell Their members to rein it in either.)
just like any species, if the environment cannot support the population, it starves and dies down to a smaller population until the species can survive off of the land. Its no different with humans. We may use our technology to feed a larger population, but there is a limit.
So true, but who wants to be The Last Man Standing in a Wasteland Void of Natural Beauty?
Thank you for doing this important story. It is shocking that modern day slavery still exists and is bigger than ever with millions in slavery. I can't understand not having compassion or care about this important issue. This isn't a liberal vs/ conservative issue. This is a human issue and any human should want to help stop this. Free the slaves is an organization that works to end world slavery and is very reputable if you want to help.
Whats the moral to this story,don't go commercial fishing if you are offered a job in a foreign port this story has no Merritt so blow it out your rectum!
Where is the UN? Isn't this one of the things they are supposed to be preventing?
For those who are naive and think that this happens only in third world countries think again, this kind of treatment happens everywhere even in the United State. Has anyone seen the garment district in New York, pack in to a room sewing from morning to night. Diamond mines in South Africa, the owners rake in billions of dollars, the people who are doing the dirty work are a small step above a slave.
It happens knowingly with Hobby Lobby Products...
So true, as important as stories like this are, I wonder if they don't do more harm than good by perpetuate xenophobia of 'those barbaric people' (take your pick) -while feeding our own denial -'well at least we're not like that.'
Child prostitution stories are always based in foreign countries, where yes, pedophile tourists have an easier time legally, but I know from volunteer work I did (on the mainland), -organized sexual exploitation of children is alive and well right here in America.
Why would any patriotic American eat fish from Asia................
because the Gulf of Mexico, where 80% of US seafood was harvested from, is now a Dead Zone
Because that's was US mega corporations invest their tax breaks in, and import into our supermarkets.
Because buying imported goods isn't unpatriotic? I hope you don't drive a foreign car, own anything made by Sony, or wear any clothes made in China.
Let me guess Ian, you're not from Detroit are you.....or Ohio.
And you didn't find anything at all absurd re the USDA banning spinach & kale imports from parts of Japan, yeah the radiation threat made sense...Now what about using up all that extra BP oil to ship veggies from one industrialized nation to another, veggies that are readily available here. (Have you ever even Met a farmer or a fisherman?)
Boy, you guys are brain wizards with your comments.
Ironic that you're typing this on a computer using components made in foreign countries. (Even if it all says "made in USA" you can bet money that some of the internal chips were made elsewhere)
Sure, we produce more food on it than has ever been produced in history.
We take raw gunk from the ground and produce useful energy from it.
of course it seems to produce alot more left wing eco liberals than it should but I think
tha'ts from the pesticides.
This article is so laughable. An article about fish of all things harvested by slaves. News reporters wearing diamond rings, necklaces and earrings are likely to NEVER report about the human atrocities that occurred during the slave harvest of their precious bling.
Slavery is the unfortunate cost of capitalism. The free labor makes slave owners rich. That's basically it.
are you effing brain dead?
Just be quiet Dave and throw that net into the water!! You're burning day light!!
How come we don't hear much from the Rev.Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or the African-American community in regards to slavery???That's right,it's not the apartheid gov't. of South Africa with a white govt. in charge.It's people of color enslaving their own.Why the slence?.Why are people of color not protesting and screaming aloud about this injustice???Hypocrites abound in society.Time for a new perspective on slavery.The old days of slavery are gone.The new ones are present.It is now time to act on this.Or maybe it doesn't pertain to our race this time???
Oh shush.! I truly wish Jesse AND Al would go somewhere and sit down..I'm African American and I don't want those 2 clowns speaking for the entire freaking race....no thank you. Slavery is cruel and unjust, and I know it happens worldwide....but just like black people had to stand up for themselves by marching, coordinating sit-ins, boycotting the bus system, etc....so do this group of people..If Cambodian and Thai people are half as outraged about this, AND they're closer to the situation, then they should speak up for their people as well.....
We hear enough, because the squeaky wheel is still getting the grease.
What's going on here? Is the UN and their media machine looking for an excuse to attack another country?
first of all sorry if i make mistakes because im not well in english ( still studying english ) So , I want just add something to what have been said before. That -in my opinion- there is to types of slavery : direct slavery which was exist before and now in some places in the globe ( buy and sell slaves ) and we have indirect slavery in other word there is a countries leaders enslave thier peoples by making them working for them and enforce them to do whatever they ask them .
mustard. i agree with you
Mustapha -Your English is better than many people born and raised in America. Good for you! : )
pilot to co-pilot.....p. u!
who gives a rat's -
OH REALLY CHRIST!!!! slaves are an every day occurrence for modern society... I'm a slave at work every single day ... just cause someone gets paid less than you do you consider them a slave.. we all need to work so SHUT the hell up .. do you consider the guy who works at mcdonalds flipping your 2.95 burger a slave.. i doubt it, he lives in america and we have the better life.. HAHHAH well guess what you don't you condone this kind of forced labour to feed your need for the POSH life... YET another Quality CNN article ... thx CNN for your once again NARROW minded view about society..
So you were kidnapped, forcibly kept at a work place and not paid? Luckily for you, you can go to the Police. These people can't.
I really don't give a damn
sorry if i make mistakes because im not well in english ( still studying english ) So , I want just add something to what have been said before. That -in my opinion- there is to types of slavery : direct slavery which was exist before and now in some places in the globe ( buy and sell slaves ) and we have indirect slavery in other word there is a countries leaders enslave thier peoples by making them working for them and enforce them to do whatever they ask them .
Boy, stop calling them slaves. Their free Americans now and I don't hold it against them if they want to fish and sell some to me. Just the title of this article made me so mad that I wouldn't even read it. Mr. Lincoln freed them slaves 100 years ago and now their people just like you and me. How about catching up to the 20th century CNN?
I am a sexual slave to myself.
Don't worry about it,age will cure you.
but its already been 55 years!
No, the men that you listed are not communists. Some may argue socialists. But to suggest in your comment that those who do not agree with your views should be forced by law to bend to your world view is most definitely communist.
Dear underpaid to free labor worker, who worked overtime so I can eat, THANK YOU. If it's any consolation, most of the well-off folks whom I work for day & night hardly tell me Thank You. Sure I get paid, but the money hardly sits in my account. So I'm not sure which is worse: not having money at all, or having money & watching it been taking from you (So Pick your poison wisely).
All I can say is thank you slaves!
This is a great idea! If it means I get cheaper fish in here I am for it. I can't help that people are stupid enough to fall for these tricks, but that is punishment for not being as smart as the other.
I don't know if my fish was caught by slaves, but my slaves that prepared my fish meal for me did a terrific job!!!
cnn shut your mouths, stop instigating countries, we as americans are slaves you dont even bother to report to us correctly, non the less report we are slaves, cnn you are pathetic and i hope the cnn studio is the first to go in a few months
Thank god something I finally don't have to feel guilty about. I don't eat fish!
It might be forgiven if you compare it to U. S. killings around the world.
Humans aren't parasites, it is our cultural of mass civilization that destroys habitats, accelerates extinction, pollutes the climate, erodes the soil, over fishes the oceans and exploits the masses keeping millions in poverty to sustain luxury for a tiny elite upper class.
Tribal human society had none of these problems, they all began with civilization after the agricultural revolution. Overpopulation magnifies our impact ten thousand fold.
"The National Fisheries Association of Thailand, which works closely with the government on fishing-related issues, says it has not received reports of abuse or torture of crew in the past couple of years on Thai boats."
Of course the slave didn't report it. They are slaves; held against their will! Thailand is so corrupt, the officials are probably paid off to look the other way. Thailand will never prosecute its own people especially in regards to Cambodians or Burmese people.
Most of you people are selfish and out of touch with anything further than you can see. I spent 12 years in two branches of the military and I am glad that I got to leave our great country. Most of you have no idea of how good you have it in America. I see some of you complaining about credit cards, bills, and working in cubicles for jobs that pay over the poverty level, that also have benefits like health care and retirements yet you still have the Eurocentric nerve to compare yourselves to people that get their throats cut and thrown overboard for getting sick after working 20 hours a day for multiple years as they sleep in the belly of a ship and catch fish all day for free just so you can have a $5.99 Long John Silvers meal. This type of attitude of recklessness and lack of compassion for other human beings is the reason why the rest of the world hates most of us.
Your forename is silly.
I'm boycotting seafood from Thailand.
You will never bother to read the package before buying it.
I am a child of the 60's and this makes me sick, but people don't care today, just give them plenty of junk food and wall to wall connectivity and they are happy.
I work with ships, and had one case of a formal Taiwan based shipowner whose crew abandoned ship during a fire. When investigated, the Master and Chief Engineer had disappeared. their bodies were nowhere on the ship, but all the crew had escaped. It turns out the crew were mainland Chinese, mountain dwelling villagers that had never seen the sea. They signed on for 1, 2 or 3 years, at about $144 a month, working about 18 hrs a day, with only 2 meals. 7 days a week, for 52 weeks out of the year. They could not communicate with home, sign off, or even go ashore on the rare occasions when the fisherman docked for repairs. Re-fueling, re-stocking with provisions, and fish discharge was all done at sea. They were awakened by a buzzer, made to work by a buzzer, stopped for meals by a buzzer, and went to sleep, again with a buzzer. They didn't even know the name of the Captain, only his generic nickname (sort of like "Chief" in English).
My conclusion, that they had a mutiny, and killed the Captain and Chief, threw them overboard. But then they had another problem: none of them knew how to sail a motor ship. So they sit on the burning ship, knowing that only aft part with a wooden superstructure would burn, and the fire would be seen by other ships in the area. Indeed, they were rescued by another ship and were sent back to shore.
So were they slaves? Well, in a complex, veiled way, there was a high degree of slavery to it.
Yamilka Gonzalez is a crazy bitch!! I wish she would stop posting stupid ass messages on her Facebook page
Man have you ever bought any of the fish imported from Asia, tastes like stale freezer burn. We can't save the world, or stop their turmoil, but we can start to look at where America is going. If we keep letting the rich and corporations keep brainwashing us to get rid of unions and dismantle our infrastructure, we will be in the same boat, pardon the pun, pass the tarter sauce.
Why does everyone here seem to think the only people reading CNN are from the USA, lame brains! As for the slave thing, how do I get one anyway? I have a lot of work around the yard that needs to get done and no time to do it, could sure use the free help!.....Just kidding, sick F'ers slaving people and it sure sucks that everyone in the end is a part of it, just the fact that we all may be eating the fish these pore slaves are katching sucks! I hope CNN helps a lot by doing what thay are here! At least someone is trying!
Slavery in New Zealand's fishing industry
who ever said that life was fair.
Every case of slavery varies from the next. Let us stop generalizing the whole issue. In addition, to those of us who think that slavery is normal, please save up and visit asia and africa and see for yourself. Your point of view is ignorant and un-informed. Slavery is real. Let us be aware that it also comes in many forms. Here is why: http://bit.ly/g3sSJm
This was an item in New Zealand news several days ago. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4842397/Slavery-at-sea-claims-spark-NZ-fishing-audit-call
Hello Kate
Its quite interesting to read the article but one needs to look at how international students are treated in some work places in New Zealand and Australia. I have been an international student in both countries and have seen stuff that is very sad. Often we students have to keep quiet at work places and put up with verbal abuse. We have to keep quiet because that's our only source of income. I have seen students in Sydney being made to work for several hours at car washes and paid for only a few hours. I had a friend from France working in a restaurant who had to eat left over food from the table after work and was pain less than minimal.
. . .While Slavery is known as the "worst condition" of man, there is a "FAR-WORSE-CONDITION ." The "FAR-WORSE-CONDITION" is that the "SLAVE" does not know he is a "SLAVE." Such a "SLAVE" will never escape his "SLAVERY" as he does not know he is a "SLAVE."
. . .Marx was concerned about "WAGE SLAVERY." Lincoln was concerned about "CHATTEL SLAVERY."
. . .They wrote letters to each other about these issues.
. . . People cursed both Lincoln and Marx over the issues of "SLAVERY." Lincoln was murdered over the issue of his war against "CHATTEL SLAVERY."
. . .Here in the United States, laws have been passed identifying Marx's concerned about "WAGE SLAVERY" as "COMMUNISM." Marx has been so much vilified as an "EVEIL DOER" because of his concerns about "WAGE SLAVERY" that the U.S. Congress has passed laws identifying Marx's concerns about "WAGE SLAVERY" as Communism, which the Republicans say is a threat to the "AMERICAN WAY."
. . .People who are fanatically "RELIGIOUS" and / or "POLITICAL" are "SLAVES" to their ideals and therefore fall into the classification of the "SLAVE" does not know he is a "SLAVE."
. . .Into what classification do the Republicans and Democrats fall on the questions of "WAGE SLAVERY" ?
Dude, we are all slaves in one form or another. What you're saying and what you quote merely spells the obvious fact that all of us serve a whole list of masters. So anything said about slavery in America or elsewhere is merely ground that has been covered again and again. And frankly, boring!
We are doomed to extinct ourselves, if we can't get our heads out of our asses and work for the common good what's the purpose. This shitty ass government no matter what party you are, can not even come to an understanding of 900 trillion dollar budget we owe china. They talk about saving 6 trillion in 10 years. We will never get out of debt. Its a reality. Americans are selling out there own American brethren for a price. Its nothing different from how the Africans sold their African brethren in the slave trade. We are doomed and the ones that survive have nothing to look forward to, except a dry husk of a planet trying to survive. This is reality. As long as their is greed and anger we will never survive.
John 8:34
Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
While we might be 'slaves' in some symbolic sense...we certainly aren't being beaten if we don't work 20 hours a day or murdered if we can't keep up..let alone being held against our will. I think your post does a huge disservice to those who are truly slaves.
slavery of any kind is a complete crime against humanity and should be fought to a standstill and the perpetrators must be caught and punish according to the law against such an inhuman act.
To me slavery is the definition of no free will to fulfill one's human desires...notice I said HUMAN desires. As a human animal, we are driven not only by basic instincts of reproduction, domination and survival but also by spiritual desires. Therein lies the conundrum of being human; we cannot be defined completely by one nor by the other. However, that being said, we do have CHOICE and choice is about self awareness that there is more than one solution to any given challenge or problem in life. Many on this sight have bought the whole notion, lock stock and barrel, that humans cannot rise above their base desires of war, domination, etc. but I challenge those here saying that you have been mislead by your religions for thousands of years. In the past few hundred years world religions have been politicized for even greater control of the masses. We have been brainwashed to think that mankind is only war like and aggressive and that we're in capable of peace. That is a bald lie. The only reason we haven't know peace for any length of time in humanity isn't because that's our basic nature, but because we have been manipulated either by religion or by economics to forego those very human qualities that help us rise above our basic drives. In the end, it is a choice of who we are and what we do but in order to see that , we need to recognize the very detrimental role that religions have played in the control, manipulation, and suppression of humans and societies around the world. That has nothing to do with our spiritual freedom, which is in direct conflict with the goals of most religious movements.
Please never come to Florida ~ we have way too may mind melts already. Thanks
Actually this is a forum where shallow people say stupid and venil things. It is not a place for deep thinkers, intelligent and moral people, nor for those who have a social conscience. Let us get on with our stupid quips and pathetic race related remarks. Reading intelligent statements and actually understanding them is well beyond any American's current ability. Carry on.
Says jimmy the red with his 8.5 grade education and total lack of understanding of tense, syntax and grammarical sentence structure. Right on smarty pants. Where abouts in joisey you from?
What do you expect from nations that rape the seas?
I cannot believe these gooks are ruining my fish! This is why we can't have nice things!
Forced labor possibly. People being duped into working in squalid conditions absolutely. But these people were not purchased in a market, nor are their children the property of someone else. So because they got "shanghaied" we make the incredible leap that they are slaves. Hardly!
It is a sad story...
But I wonder if this story is any different from Black Slavery in America? Or Hispanic slavery? Yes they are different forms of slavery but the fact is that stronger or rich or white get to control/dominate the weaker or poor or non-white
I think it would be better to clean your own backyard before clean others.
Just a comment...
And pretty lame comment. Slavery ended in the US over a century ago, most of Europe slightly before that. But, it's never stopped in many parts of Africa or Asia. And whiteness or Europeanness has no bearing whatever. The Arab slave trade in Africans was greater than that of the European/American trade and the Arab slave trade of Europeans was astoundingly high. Whole coastlines of Mediterranean Europe were abandoned out of fear of the Arab slave raiders.
When you see what workers the world over have to endure to make a living while surviving with governments who really dont care it makes the striking teachers and tantrum throwing politicians of Wisconsin seem like the spoiled children they are. The poor people working on these boats and most of the people who dont have Government union job can only dream of the benefits that are taken advantage of by those who want only more and more taxes to pay their benefits while their fellow citizens who have no government union jobs lose theirs and pay ever more.
You blame the workers? The difference between public and private workers is that public workers actually saw the benefits of "trickle dow" economics nad their salaries & benefits have kept up with the changing times. The same politicians that made this occur also turned a blind eye to the private sector, and allowed all sorts of anti-labor laws to be passed, such as "at will employment", while rewarding corporations for shipping jobs overseas. The private sector has been falling behind for 30 years, as the increase in benefit costs have eroded salaries. They never thought in advance that by paying taxpayers less, they were cutting off their own food supply, and it is coming to a head now. Public workers do NOT make to much, YOU make too little. If public workers had stood up for the private sector for all these years, we wouldn't be having this problem, but the answer is to raise the private sector by approxiamtely 30% to even things out.
Call the UN.. They are great at this kind of thing, nevermind they are currently in 15 countries restoring peace..LOL
Ending Modern Day slavery sound like free speech. It will not happen. Just like unemployment....
I don't like fish anyways.
I was at a store a found a package of Canadian-caught wild whitefish that was sent to China for processing and packaging then sent back to USA for purchase. It's a global economy and you really have no way of knowing where things really come from. Counterfeiters are good at what they do. "Legitimate" companies are even better at it.
Vote Republican! This is the future of American workers
Sarah for Prez, Newt for VP and Donald T for Sect. Of the Treasury,
Yes who needs a middle class anyway?
Precisely Jimmy ~ you are finally getting it!
And the point is? We sponsor slavery everyday in America by shopping at Wal mart, having illegal immigrants working our gardens and using H1B visas to do the IT work. As well as all American companies outsourcing where the work is 95% cheaper. Call it what you will, but because someone has on a tie, it is still considered slaery if they are not allowed to quit and work under the conditions they do.
Sounds like someone who did not get in on Wal~Mart stock for cheap
Agree....Profits for all companies in the S&P 500 for 2010 were up 47%, much of that due to cost-cutting (manufacturing overseas) and layoffs (decreasing on-shore labor costs). However, revenue, a gauge of the money flowing into business for selling goods and services, grew at a much slower pace than profit – and ended 2010 up just 7%. The point being that cutting costs by off-shoring and beating down your existing workforce has just about bottomed out. Now comes the hard part....how do you increase revenue from an unemployed or underemployed populace, whom you have basically kicked to the curb and now you want them to buy more of your stuff that they don't need with money they don't have
World War II was started by 50 multi-national companies and they did not care who won. They made enormous profit and exist to this day ~ Reynolds, Ford, GM, Krupp, Toyota, Honda, Dutch Shell, Renault, Puegot...ad naseum. Now the Republican Party of the United Styates is getting closer to their goals, the goals of the Trilateral Comission and their ilk.
Eliminate the middle class ~ lassez faire capitalism ~ robber barons and all. It is a universal movement.
Well said!
When you compete with a slave, you are one.
I have watched the IT industry in the US Gutted by imported indentured servants under the socialist H-1B wage manipulation and offshore facilitation visa program. While the best workers are laid off, they are replaced by cheap body-shops like Wipro and Infosys who have a culture of corruption bribery and downright illegal activity.
In the same article/video they refer to the boats as almost like prison ships, and then refer to the crew as being almost like slaves. So I guess every prisoner is a slave? Are they slaves or prisoners? Or could it be Guapo that they are idiots who signed on to bad jobs in the first place? Maybe they are idiots.
This is an actual portrayal of life in a trailer park in the United States.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEHooNUxslM
we the americans has educated the world well on how to exploit the others for a buck or two.
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Feast your eyes on the future of the USA if the baggers and GOP have their way.USAUSAUSA=corporate profits corporate profits corporate profits.
Tea Baggers are too busy providing a living for the Democrats to waste time one this.
Teabaggers are fighting for a cause that won't include them. They're mentally deficient suckers.
So, my suggestion is, quit buying Chinese or southeast asian fish. Start boycotting those that use these. For example, Schwanns makes heavy use of Chinese fish (which will now include radiation in addition, to mercury and be dirty).
Look at companies like Seapak and make certain that it says that it uses American (or some western nation) fish.
If not, then do not buy it.
Please, quit supporting these illegal and immoral actions.
Welcome to the new America if the right wing nut jobs have their way and outlaw collective barganing.
This country was built by the middle class and the rich have benefited from our labor. Now that isn't enough
and they want to make us slaves.They will pay for their greed.
Will they? Yes, there has been some push-back, but not nearly enough. These right wing zealots think they're on "a mission from God". Of course, they're obtuse, prone to the fear/hate mongering manipulation corporate amerika pushes out through AM radio and fox "news". We need to get serious about fighting these b@stards. Whatever it takes, the sould of this once great country is at stake.
and I bet you all think this is a joke....
Don't think for a minute that American business executives aren't drooling over the prospect of enslaving workers.
In the next decades, you should expect:
An end to any semblance of minimum wage–possibly an end to payment entirely and a return to company issued script which will allow food purchases from authorized company stores
An end to the 40 hour work week–60+ in developing nations is typical.
An end to health insurance from your employers-you are a PART, and if you break, you are replaced, not fixed.
An end to most safety regulations–safety is no longer a concern when employees are disposable and easily replacible.
More and more companies in the U.S. are now offering unpaid internships to new recruits with no experience. Where I work right now, these can last as long as a year. They typically have 4-6 interns at any given time and there is no guarantee any of them will actually be hired directly. So far, we've hired 1. It's like watching a game of corporate survivor.
The U.S. will continue to have to compete globally with the lowest denominators. Labor is our highest cost here in the U.S., therefore, to compete, we will have to adopt labor practices similar to theirs.
Welcome to the new America if these right wing nut jobs have their way. This country was built by the middle class
and the rich have benefited from the fruits of our labor. Now that isn"t enough and they want to return to slave wages.
They will pay for their GREED!
hey don't hate the player, hate the game.
Won't be a game when there's a gun to your head and a whip to your back.
The entire human race is nothing but savages contained by the very thin veneer of society.
I applaud the author for shedding lights on to a very serious problem. I am one of the Vietnamese boat people that went out to sea in the 80s. Our boat was pirated by the Thai fisherman. All possessions were robbed and children and women were forced to to the pirate ship and return raped. The pirates then left us, but not really. I still know people to this day scarred for ever of the trauma that these pirates did. I have heard of stories of repeating pirate (more than one attack) on the same boat and repeating rapes, also heard of forcing the boats to islands and abandon the people there with frequent pirates stopping. These Thai fisherman association window dressing statements will never convince me and the boat people who went thru the human made disaster. At the time, we suspected that Thai's government wanted to nurture these pirates to prevent the waves of Vietnamese boat people out to sea, escaping the communists. The question will be answered by history some day. I thank you the author to shed light on the area and educated me that the problem, in a different shade, is still there.
Most people do not realize that in reality we have VERY little control over our lives. n some ways we're all slaves! Even in the "land of the free" it is very unfree. That's probably the greatest myth ever perpetrated on the American psychii. A child can lie about you and before you know it your life is ruin. A coworker can spread malicious lies and you're fired. A cop having a bad day can ruin your life. A TSA agent can ruin your vacation if you don't treat him like King. An identity thief/hacker can ruin you life just through a couple of mouse clicks. A fender bender with the wrong person can ruin your life. Your boss can ruin your life. Some disgruntle person whom you've never even met can ruin your life.
No in reality we're living a pseudo life. We have very very little control over what happens to us on a daily basis!
Animals do not enslave each other. Why haven't we evolved?
Animals are not too sorry to work for their living.
Slavery? This is American/Asian Capitalism! You can see the GOP starting to implement this in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Indiana!
You are a dork.
TRY not to buy non-US seafood!
Maybe we can try NOT to murder and eat living creatures? I'm completely off red meat for a decade. I've got chicken and turkey to give up next!
For those of you who can't stand humans, please do the planet a favor and find a tall nearby bridge. Have a friend drive you if you need.
Also, your walmarts and outsourcing friends are giving more money to other countries than you know. when someone makes a dollar for a days work in another country, it doesn't mean it's a little money there. A dollar may be able to buy them a weeks food in their currency. Many would be jobless without our companies outsourcing. Instead many are jobless here though.
The ghost ships sound are most likely are very bad. that's just a small group of people we will never be able to understand. And yes, by the way they make it sound it should be stopped. Remember the people that worked on the boats left everything they had to make more money. They got themselves into something horrible over money or greed as well. My advice, don't work on one of the boats. If you don't like Walmart, don't go there, if you don't like the U.S. – get out, if you don't like humans, find your nearest tall bridge, a tall building also works. Have fun!
Echo back to the 60s....thnkabit was probably a hard hatter....
America ~ Love it or leave it ~ even when she is wrong!"
We do not have the right to ask the government for redress of grievances. The Constitution is wrong!!!..
thnkabit you are a fool. Of the highest order. People like you would have had Washington, Franklin, Adams...ect..to leave the country. You are the fool on the hill and will never realize it.
The second world war was started by 50 multi-national companies and they did not care who won. They made enormous profit and exist to this day ~ Reynolds, Ford, GM, Krupp, Toyota, Honda, Dutch Shell, Renault, Puegot...ad naseum. Now the Republican Party of the United Styates is getting closer to their goals, the goals of the Trilateral Comission and their ilk.
Eliminate the middle class ~ lassez faire capitalism ~ robber barons and all. It is a universal movement.
Do you still believe in Santa Clause also?
go ƒuck yourself twit...
your forename is stupid ~ orgee
Wow, you are so far out in left field I need a frigging telescope to see you. Where do you get this stuff????
Can't be possible,we are the only country still holding slaves, according to the government and the rabble rousers who have made a fortune keeping the myth alive.. Must have been a misprint.
I am surprised anyone worried about this case because it does not involve sex. The Human Trafficking is just an anti-prostitution crusade with a disguise.
Case in point, in my community, federal prosecutors sent some massage parlor operators to 8 years in prison for trafficking one adult woman from California for sex. They admitted she was not forced and profitted from the enterprise. The same federal jurisdiction later sentenced a Uzbekistan man to 2 months time already served for trafficking "hundreds of poeple into the area to work and live in squalor for little or no pay". They worked for roofing companies, hotels, landscapers, and construction. Where is the parity in this?
If we saw the water the seafood is raised in we would not buy any of it.
There were no reports of abuse or torture of crew in the past couple of years concerning these Thai boats. National Fisheries Association of Thailand have the appropriate laws in place. It is the monitoring and enforcement that needs possible improvement. No different than in America a few years back concerning our migrant workers. Americans have lost job related retirements, dental and medical benefits without improvements in overall compensation relative to the decline in the value of the dollar. Looks like slavery to me.
Jorge, that is a good point. Some of the surrounding waters of the countries we buy fish from are black or floating with things you can't imagine. We take care of the ocean far better then most countries. but College boys would not believe that because they only read or listen to the worst of U.S.
The History channel or Discovery had a good program on the very subject and you are right about the un- mentionables they are fed. Made me watch where my fish come from.
"college boys"
...thnkabit ~ you twit ~ your own uneducated cheap shots proved you are one of the mass uneducated sluggos.
Get drunk and beat your kids fool.
Why in the world would anyone buy seafood from Asia? Aside from the disgusting farming conditions and polluted open waters huge fishing operations continue to enslave those looking for a better life. Sickening!
We should all make a conscious effort to purchase seafood from North American waters... New England, Canada, West Coast and the Gulf along with a host of well-managed fisheries can sustain our needs and will be cost effective and best of all, employ American workers!!
Probably do not know, and price is probably a big factor now.
People buy from Asia, one because it may be all they can afford, buy mainly because most markets don't let you know where the fish is coming from. I'm sure we've all eaten fish from asia before. i"m not sure why we all of a sudden blamed all of asia. It's not all of Asia that abuse the waters.
Love the people that seem to have all the answers to the world and its workings in a single blog post.
Really, anyone who reads this article and actually believes the entire thing is an idot! What disturbs me is that why single out one practice and one part of the world in the name of democracy and freedom. Isn't capitalism and profit all about that? This is not shocking at all people, wakeup! Look in your own backyards. What about the cultivation and slave wages in the US regarding crops, or the garment industry in China or the minerals in Africa, etc..... ??
I agree. We like to look at others an place blame but its much harder to look at ourselves. We decry the practice of slavery and slave wagery but we demand cheap food, goods and services.
A sad and serious subject! Slavery does exist and too little is done to put an end to it. But Dan Rivers has lost credibility with his past sympathetic reporting on the red shirt leaders in Thailand and their criminal activities (burning down major commercial centres and cinemas, threatening to blow up gas tanks in the middle of town, invading a major hospital yielding weapons, preventing ambulances from reaching injured civilians and soldiers, deploying armed elements in the middle of Bangkok, attacking the Asian Summit in Pattaya in 2009 and forcing Heads of State to flee, paralysing commercial areas thereby causing tens of thousands to loose their income for several months, impacting tourism and causing thousands to loose their jobs as a result, the list is long ..., all that in the interest of ). CNN should deploy respected journalists to deal with this particularly serious subject.
Long live the global economy, and the Corporations that gorge off of it...
Man is hard-wired to self destruct. Earth's current population (according to the US Census Bureau) is estimated to be 6.91 billion. I believe that in a century from now, it will be significantly lower – half, at the very most.
There was a time when slavery was outlawed and the UK policed the world, killing and arresting slavers.
Now that is called imperialism. Face it, slavery is multi-culturalism.
Taxation is modern say slavery.... we are a slave to the government for 4 months out of every year!
I don't believe the comments from the chairman of the oversight group. I'm sure they are fully aware of the slavery practices and are being paid to look the other way. They do the same with human trafficking for the sex trade. This is not one of those countries where human life is held in high regard.
Fred, what do you really know about Thailand? I'll bet you have never even been there. All you know is what the media has fed you.
Slavery gets things done.
The problem is when humans think that we will live up to our own utopian expectations. We are merely animals and though we have enormous material intellect but we have the social intellect of chimpanzees. Humans can easily be duped into committing atrocities even genocide with just a few time tested tactics, and humans can't manage to decouple their emotional state from the reality of their own destruction.
everyone's problem is that they worry way too much. live life, be greatful, have no regrets, and most important, be HAPPY 🙂
-forget about everyones problems and deal with your own.......
This can't be very true. Nobody treated their slave worst then the whiteman treated us black people. We were slaves longer. It is not true that there were Chinese slaves treated as poorly as we were. It was the black man who built the railroad and after much of the work then the Chinese slaves helped. When the white man came over, to Africa, and started to capture us and sold us to the Arabs as Eunuchs and slaves, and the sold us to the Romans. 400 years we worked for the white man. We were the worst treated of all of the slaves. It was so bad that we are effected even today. We are doomed to be downtrodden even for future generations from now. Only a few blacks, Uncle Tom's, will be able to work, but most of us don't want to keep serving whitey. We are not equal, multiracial couples are discouraged. We are put in prison because of our color, 90% of us are innocent, the white man made us commit all of the crimes. I say we enslave the white population, get their women pregnant with black babies and that will wipe out the white man. Even after the civil war we were still slaves in the south, the northerners, made us live in designated run down areas and stopped us from being rich. Even for welfare, all of you white people take up all of the welfare money. Thanks for President Obama helping us to get free money from the working white man. And he promised us more after 2012. Arise my brothers and sisters, let us take what is truly belonging to the black man.
Whoever wrote the above is trying to put his words into a "black" person's mouth with the hope of attacking Obama. This is very pathetic and quite an unqualified attempt to insult others' intelligence here.
. . .The REPUBLICANS and their "admirers" are boosters of "WAGE SLAVERY." if we but look at how they want to cut the "MINIMUM WAGE" for everybody.
. . . They corruptly promote (1) zero taxes for their fellow businessmen, (3) Zero import taxes for their fellow businessmen who left the U.S. to manufacture in China and now import their products into the U.S. without paying "Import Taxes,"
(4) cuts in Medicaid, () cuts in Health Medical treatment for the aged, cuts in shelter for the homeless, () cuts in unemployment compensation, and so forth.
. . .The "REPUBLICAN WAGE SLAVERS" need to understand that they cannot just loot the United States and scream for lower taxes and cuts in Health for the elderly and disabled while bloated Republicans feed at the public trough reaping all the blessings of the United States unto themselves and flinging curses at their disadvantaged countrymen.
. . .Newd Gingrich and Sarah Palin are unqualified to lead the United States. Both of them should jump on a Banana boat to some Banana Republic where their authoritarian money programs can be inflicted on uneducated minorities who do not know how to resist the Elites. Gingrich worries so much negatively about U.S. involvement and expenditure of money in Libya, he ought to move to Tripoli with Ghadaffi.
To 95% that indicate the human race is thick with scum – YUP – you are RIGHT
To ALL of those hat think Humans are something that an invisible dude thought up as the answer to the universe (ie those that think that because GOD made us – whatever that means – we, for the most part are better than everything) – NOPE – YOU ARE WRONG and those still in the first trimester and IN this group most recently mentioned (ie under 33 and nuts) – please report to the clinic for termination
(I await the wrath of the insane)
As an academic who studies this topic in depth, I find the conversation on this board ill informed. I would really hope that each of you do a bit of research before discussing opinions that have little added value to this topic. I find it a bit sad and appalling to see how little many of you really understand about the world you live in. Please educate yourselves instead of posting poorly informed opinions.
As an academic, why dont you enlighten us with what criminologists look at on crime? Like arrests and convictions stats for trafficking. What are real the numbers in the US? They have stats for every other crime. What are the numbers for trafficking. It seems, as an condescending academic, you could do a little better yourself and provides some facts.....and NOT ESTIMATES. We have heard those already and they don't agree with the actual convictions and victims rescued after 10 years of a trafficking program.
Shy as you are
Burmese Fishermen Hooked On 'Asean'
HUMPHON, THAILAND—To most people, "Asean" is an abbreviation for the compound of countries known as the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, but for Burmese fishermen working in southern Thailand, it is the brewed compound of choice that keeps their energy level high during the long working hours at sea.
Asean is a liquid compound whose main ingredient is the leaf of the kratom tree, which has a proven psychoactive effect and is illegal in Thailand, Burma and Malaysia. According to the US Drug Enforcement Agency website, in Thailand kratom is classified the same as marijuana and is the third most widely abused illegal drug in the country, after methamphetamine and marijuana.
Every day, groups of Burmese fishermen in Thailand's southern provinces such as Phang Nga, Ranong and Chumphon secretly sit around a boiling pot on their fishing boat and prepare Asean. They first brew the kratom leaves; then they mix the hot kratom tea with cough syrup, instant coffee and milk.
The leaf of the kratom tree. (Photo: The Irrawaddy)
"All the fishermen here use it. Thai fishing boat owners provide the kratom leaves and all the necessary materials to make Asean in every boat," said Kyaw Naing, a fisherman working on a squid boat in Phang Nga who came to Thailand from Burma in 1989.
Kyaw Maung, a Burmese fishing boat owner in Chumphon Province, said he pays 20 baht for a package of 20 kratom leaves, which he gives to his fishermen before they go to sea. One packet is enough for three persons to drink Asean for a day.
"Asean strengthens the physical power of the fishermen. Not only I, but also other Thai fishing boat owners supply bags of kratom leaves to the fishermen," he said, adding that even the wives of Burmese fishermen in Chumphon drink Asean these days.
The problem is that Asean can be addictive if taken every day.
"I can live without eating rice, but I can't do without Asean," said Than Zaw, a 26-year-old Burmese man who works on a ferry boat in Ranong Province. He said he has been addicted to the compound since he was 20 years old.
Myint Soe, a Burmese fisherman in Ranong province, said that the sale of powdered kratom leaves has become a lucrative business in the area. He said that one kilo of kratom powder sells for 650 baht in Ranong and 900 baht in Kawthaung, the Burmese town on the opposite side of the border.
He said he was also addicted to Asean for two years, but gave it up due to health concerns.
"Asean gives us a high. But one side effect is constipation," he said. "Three of my friends have died from drinking Asean for too long."
Kyaw Maung said that three months ago one Burmese fishermen who was working on his boat jumped into the sea and died while high on Asean.
"Other fishermen saved him three or four times in the past when he jumped into the sea, but the last time he died," he said, showing the identification card photo of the dead young fisherman.
There are no statistics on how many Burmese fishermen have died due to ingesting Asean, but despite the risks they still continue to use the drug.
Having been addicted himself, Myint Soe knows full-well its dangers and addictive properties, but still extols the use of Asean, saying it is necessary to maintain the energy level required in his line of work.
"Normally at noon we are worn out and tired, but with Asean we can work non-stop," he said. "It's important that you can work as hard as others."
Burmese fishermen said that Asean has been popular for the last ten years, since the time that Phensedyl— a cought syrup made in India which the fisherman used in the same manner and for the same purpose as Asean—became no longer available.
The kratom trees that produce the pyschoactive ingredient in Asean are similar to guava trees in appearance. While they grow naturally, kratom trees that produce the leaves that are sold to Burmese fisherman are grown mostly on rubber plantations, said a Thai man who grows kratom in Chumphon Province.
Inside his compound, kratom trees grow as high as ten feet tall. He said that the police let him grow only a few trees and he sells the leaves to Burmese fishermen for 200 baht per kilo.
Fishermen in Chumphon said there are at least two or three arrests every month for possession of kratom leaves and the police fine those arrested 500 baht per leaf. But they claimed that the major distributors of the kratom leaf are the local authorities themselves.
for all the fools who think it matters it dosent when its legal you have to understand slavery is still legal in tons of countries there are even slaves here in the u.s. a diplomat was reciently caught with one because she ran away because she was being beaten... what happned nothing because it was legal in the country the diplomat was from get real when you can make it illegal which it should be good deal until then open your eyes and realize it is part of the world ........whether we or not we like it it is still legal.... start killing the slave owners yourselves and you may come up with a answer untl then realize its legal in a lot of countries...
This can't be very true. Nobody treated their slave worst then the whiteman treated us black people. We were slaves longer. It is not true that there were Chinese slaves treated as poorly as we were. It was the black man who built the railroad and after much of the work then the Chinese slaves helped. When the white man came over, to Africa, and started to capture us and sold us to the Arabs as Eunuchs and slaves, and the sold us to the Romans. 400 years we worked for the white man. We were the worst treated of all of the slaves. It was so bad that we are effected even today. We are doomed to be downtrodden even for future generations from now. Only a few blacks, Uncle Tom's, will be able to work, but most of us don't want to keep serving whitey. We are not equal, multiracial couples are discouraged. We are put in prison because of our color, 90% of us are innocent, the white man made us commit all of the crimes. I say we enslave the white population, get their women pregnant with black babies and that will wipe out the white man. Even after the civil war we were still slaves in the south, the northerners, made us live in designated run down areas and stopped us from being rich. Even for welfare, all of you white people take up all of the welfare money. Thanks for President Obama helping us to get free money from the working white man. And he promised us more after 2012. Arise my brothers and sisters, let us take what is truly belonging to the black man
Noah, be quiet. Everyone else, good job, check a little on your facts though, and yes, I don't believe 'parasite' is the right word, more of an ignorant, blind-to-the-world person that uses resources and changes it into crap. That should be called a word of sacrilege that I cannot type. Humanity is a blasphemous word. I hope no one that knows me reads this and that I don't get in trouble, I mean, everyone else did it!
Oh yes, and HCC makes some sense too.
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