U.S. Startups Locations Analysis - <AUTHOR> https://activewizards.com/blog/us-startups-locations-analysis/ <comment><USER2> If you correclty merge Washington DC and District of Columbia, it jumps to 6th place from 11/12\. I have a hard time trusting an state by state analysis that doesn't get that bit correct. Also, should it really be state by state, or metro region? Near D.C. I am much closer to NY than say LA to San Francisco.

<comment><USER3> Would it be correct to merge? They are the same thing so it's more like a duplicate. The fact that one of the stats is wildly different is quite alarming.

<comment><USER4> The fact that one of them is wildly different indicates it's a categorization issue and not a duplicate, although it's possible there are some duplicate values.

<comment><USER3> I suppose you're right but I was somewhat skeptical of there being double the number of investors in dc as there are in mass (ie boston)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> > _" We are looking for the states with the best conditions for the > development of startups, so we are most interested in Companies and Jobs > measures."_

I don't think this goal was clearly accomplished based on the analysis.

For one, it's unclear how many companies in their analysis are still "active" companies. For example, a company could still have an angel.co profile with posted jobs, but if the last company activity was ~1 year ago, their company status may not be up to date.

</comment><comment><USER6> Utterly unusable on mobile.

<comment><USER7> Utterly unusable on desktop. I keep getting "possible security error" popups.

<comment><USER8> Clear white page of nothing on Firefox. Works on Chrome.

<comment><USER9> Works for me on mobile Safari.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> I would like to see the same plots weighted by state population.

Oh! Or compared to available housing or housing prices!

<comment><USER11> Why? State population is irrelevant to anyone actually making a decision. It's not "fair", but that doesn't really matter. Though state-level statistics also aren't great for decision making IMO, it should probably be computed by metro area.

I moved to NYC from the bay area, and I don't necessarily regret it, but you can see that there is a real gap in the depth of tech between the two, so if you want to work on cutting edge tech, the bay area is probably still the best place to be, though you may have to make quality of life sacrifices for that.

<comment><USER12> > _real gap in the depth of tech_

Do you mean it's harder to hire top tech talent? Are the companies technologically less advanced? Something else?

<comment><USER11> More companies doing innovative tech work, rather than just deploying known tech. Lots of top tech talent drawn to that work, hiring is not necessarily easier (lots of competition), but as a person moving to SF you get more interaction with those people.

NYC isn't bad on these metrics, but the bay area is just noticeably better.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> Seems like a lot of "social network bias", in that angellist is wildly popular in California, but here in Colorado it is little utilized and often derided as out of date and useless.

Depending on a single social network like this to make sweeping generalizations about geography when social networking is very much a geographic/social proximity phenomena is pretty dubious.

</comment><comment><USER14> I wonder the following

\- What % of startups are actual tech companies?

\- What is tech culture like in every city (aggregate data from meetup, event tech conferences, etc)

\- Number of entry tech jobs for each city compared to number of startups, etc

\- Specific tech job demographics keyword searches (PHP, etc)

\- Wages, expenses comparison

\- Census data, of the population in each city, what is median / mode wage of data? How many techworkers are there ratio wise (Silicon Valley, vs New York City). How are techworkers defined here _(video production / graphic designers -> are they included?)_

\- How are different cities calculated in sizing? Radius distance from city center, zipcodes associated, etc? _(For instance, most cities are 25 miles radius from what I 've resaerched, san fransisco is about 15 miles radius or even less for that given specific population minus silicon valley /palo alto)_

</comment><comment><USER15> This data is pretty interesting and I think would be still more interesting if it included changes in startup distribution over time. That information would be very revealing in terms of macro-level industry trends and whether Silicon Valley is becoming more or less of a concentrated hub for tech.</comment>


Clickjacking Defense Cheat Sheet - <AUTHOR> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Clickjacking_Defense_Cheat_Sheet

<comment><AUTHOR> Interesting read discovered after investigating how to defend a site from being framed with a new URL shortener mentioned elsewhere on HN today.</comment>


Netflix arrives in Canada - <AUTHOR> http://www.netflix.ca This is freaking amazing. I was a big fan when I was living in the US and one of the few things I was missing up here.<p>Today Netflix started in Canada, instead of mailing the movies they stream to your computer or tv via Wii/PlayStation. Excellent sign-up experience, I'm watching a movie already and ready to dump zip.ca! <comment><USER2> My Xbox has been netflix ready for like a year at this point, and as an Xbox 360 user I have to goddamn wait longer than the PS3 and Wii users? They would have had an instant signup, I've been waiting for this day since my Xbox got the capability, now they aren't getting my money till my Xbox can use it on principal. I have a Wii, but Netflix can bite me if they think I'm getting it now that they've pissed me off.

</comment><comment><USER3> The price is very reasonable $8/month, the quality of streaming to my PS3 is excellent (and I only have a modest internet connection).

Unfortunately the selection is pretty limited. Awful, actually. CTV own the right to a lot of popular shows, such as The Big Bang Theory, and they're not letting go.</comment>


Driverless car review launched by UK government - <AUTHOR> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31364441

<comment><USER2> A most telling point is the comment about how driverless cars would keep to the speed limits and how 'boring' this would be.

In the UK there is a reason why the police have stopped using the word 'accident' when reporting a road traffic collisions. There is almost always somebody at fault.

With around 2175 road deaths in the UK in 2012, I truly believe driverless cars are the only way we will ever see a massive reduction in this fatality rate.

I, for one, welcome our driverless car overlords, but expect this to be years in the making.

<comment><USER3> _There is almost always somebody at fault._

With people, yes.

With robots, perhaps not.

If you think of a collision as "someone doing something wrong" (as the police do) then a robot car can't really be responsible for a collision because all it can do is follow its programming. It's literally impossible for it to be 'careless' or 'dangerous' in the same way that a human driver can. Consequently, any accident between two robot cars will always have to share responsibility between the two owners (or possibly the manufacturers, but that's highly unlikely). It'd be exactly the same as if two human-driven cars hit each other in blameless circumstances today - the costs are just divided equally, or each car's insurer pays for the damage to that car, or something.

Robot cars will _massively_ disrupt the insurance industry.

<comment><USER4> A human driver can certainly can be careless or dangerous, but in my experience this is not how blame is assigned in the case of a collision. It is assigned based a failure to conform to very specific rules of the road - operating left of center (or right, depending on the country), failure to yield, etc. Human factors are taken into consideration, but there is certainly an existing framework for assigning responsibility that appears to be quite compatible with autonomous operators. I would suggest that the shared responsibility case would be the same as it is today - when both operators are in violation.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Notably not part of the review: the economic impact from hundreds of thousands of drivers becoming unemployed. In fact, no mention at all of the wider political landscape in this review.

It's one thing having the technology in place - and we're some way away from having something that can manage London - it's another thing entirely getting it deployed.

Driverless trains have been a technical reality for decades; the Tube still has drivers (and "captains").

<comment><USER6> The Tube (TFL) are trying to introduce driverless trains. Its the unions that are stopping them. I'm sure if TFL could get rid of all drivers tomorrow and replace them with driverless trains they would.

The thing that will hold up real deployment of this will be unions rather than the technology.

<comment><USER7> Aren't the Central, Jubilee and Victoria lines all using ATO already? They carry drivers for doors, emergencies, etc but I thought that the movement of the train was automated.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> It will be interesting to see what happens to the world of work when those (ex-)drivers who have a significant commute are able to perform some work during that commute.

It would be great if employers would be open-minded enough to allow employees to work during their commute and shorten their time at the workplace while keeping the same total hours.

This would effectively nullify the 'dead time' of the commute and allow more time outside work. I know a commute can be a relaxing time for some, but we'd still be able to relax during the same hours, while having a choice of venue rather than having to be stuck in a car.

Sadly, I can imagine many employers pushing for employees to keep the same hours at the workplace while perhaps pressurising them to work 'from car'.

</comment><comment><USER9> I can see a lot of use for them inside of city limits, to the point that human driven vehicles could get excluded. Yet I would rather see it implemented in public transportation, from full size buses down to smaller "pods" or the like. The smaller one's could be ideally suited to serve the handicapped or special needs.

Long haul trucks also look ideal, long before your own car goes that route.

As to mention about boring and speed limits, why wouldn't speed limits increase? As the technology improves one can assume there will access controlled lanes if not entire highways for automated vehicles. The US has HOT/HOV lanes that would make perfect sense to convert to such use.

</comment><comment><USER10> This sounds promising, however it could potentially be a disaster waiting to happen. Just recently HN posted this article about BMW flaw: [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31093065](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31093065). With this in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere gains access to the driverless cars. Not only to add that it can be connected to your smartphone, which is great. But then I suppose the smartphone app keeps track of where you've been. I have mixed feelings.</comment>


SpaceX SN4 Explodes during test - <AUTHOR> https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1266441734323650569 <comment><USER2> Replaying now on the YouTube channel

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YaFsUWgN3s&feature=emb_logo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YaFsUWgN3s&feature=emb_logo)

<comment><AUTHOR> Wow wow wow. Ow. "Oh wow, look at that... that's new! I don't think we've seen that before!? ... is that oxygen? If it was methane, wouldn't it be igniting in the flare? OHHHHH"

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Build, tests fail, fix. NASA could never do it that way, but it's a process that works well for software engineers.</comment>


Why I didn't get the job - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@shaydoc/why-i-didnt-get-the-job-2d3510131515

<comment><USER2> interesting write up - but maybe it was also a company problem? often, applying the newest/hottest technologies show a lack of understanding of the "real" user problems. At least from my experience.</comment>


The Return of Pay - <AUTHOR> http://garyvaynerchuk.com/post/1408128486

<comment><USER2> Poor title and I'm not surprised this is languishing.. I just submitted this with "Gary Vaynerchuk on how Apple has established a for-pay content culture" - not a great title itself, but it'd get the votes (titles being a big part of the game around here).

<comment><AUTHOR> So true...I didn't even think a lot about the title, I'll be more attentive next time, thanks :)</comment></comment>


Oracle: Google 'directly copied' our Java code - <AUTHOR> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/oracle-says-google-directly-copied-java-code-heres-the-line-by-line-comparison/41025

<comment><USER2> Same story, different source, lots of comments:

<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1841827>

<comment><AUTHOR> Cool. Didn't see that. I think the line-by-line comparison was interesting. I looked at it very carefully and there is no doubt this is either directly copied (and edited), or directly "transcribed".</comment></comment>


Google: China is messing with Gmail - <AUTHOR> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/21/google-china-is-messing-with-gmail/

<comment><USER2> This is true. unproxied, gmail doesn't work very well, & chat gets disconnected every few minutes. Even with a proxy, they are somehow messing with it.

So basically, gmail doesn't work in china anymore.</comment>


Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning's Sentence - <AUTHOR> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0 <comment><USER2> Seven years is still a long time for whistle blowing. I'm glad to see she is still getting released though. It's important to note commuting the sentence is not a pardon. Chelsea will still have this conviction for the rest of her life.

I know there is a lot of controversy with Manning compared to Wikileaks et. al. as far as not redacting documents or using a discriminating news source to filter them. Still, I oppose state secrets and the Hillary e-mails are actually very chilling when you start reading through them. I still side with Manning. Too many of the Snowden documents were redacted with critical information (like which hardware encryption chips were compromised by the US government). No one has the actual Pentagon Papers outside of very specific news agencies. Manning gave the entire story to the people .. and I find it more sad that we didn't see more outrage and change from that release.

I also see another message here. Obama is trying to leave a positive view of the Democratic legacy with this lasting memory. It helps people forget about the predator drones, secret kill lists, continuation of torture, NSA spying and the expansion of war, military and the American hegemony throughout the world. I wish people would see this manipulation; this handout to the left to keep them angry at the incoming administration and not at the government that continues to spy on them and kill people without trial in and endless sea of never ending conflict.

<comment><USER3> I have mixed feelings on this. Manning did commit a crime. They were entrusted with classified information and they released it on purpose. For all of the corruption and wrongdoing the release of those cables uncovered, didn't it also do things like give away the positions of some undercover agents? And harm US diplomatic relations with other countries? Look at it from the POV of the government: How could they _not_ punish Manning? It would do a lot to encourage others to indiscriminately leak classified info. Which would be bad.

<comment><USER4> Classifying material should not be a way for the Government to hide corruption and wrongdoing. Whistle blowing is the only way that prevents that.

Chelsea Manning acted on her conscience, which is the best we can expect anyone to do. The governments punishment was to prevent that happening again.

<comment><USER5> Snowden released a large volume of information to well qualified journalists who very carefully combed through the data to find the things most relevant and important for the American public to know. Information that was legitimately classified and had no whistleblowing value simply wasn't released.

Manning released a large volume of information to the public en masse with no regard to it's whistleblowing value. Some of that information was dangerous and harmful.

Manning's battering ram is much different than Snowden's scalpel, even though their base motivations had a lot in common. Snowden knew what he was doing and did it with great care and consideration. Manning was suffering from some serious mental health issues and did something foolish with questionable value at best.

<comment><USER6> > Manning released a large volume of information to the public en masse

No. She leaked the documents to Wikileaks, who decided to publish them uncensored. She had no control over what Wikileaks would do. Other media outlets opted not to release information they considered dangerous.

And, as @mhurron pointed out, there is no record of someone who was harmed by that information being released.

<comment><USER7> There is no record of any individual being physically harmed, but the leaked diplomatic cables were highly embarrassing, hurt the interests of the US, and were completely unjustified. They weren't exposing malfeasance or war crimes. They should not have been released.

Manning did it wrong, Snowden did it right.

<comment><USER8> The fact that the US murdered innocent civilians was highly embarrassing and hurt the interests of the US, not the fact that Manning leaked that information itself. Punish the murderers, not the messengers. The only people were actually harmed were the innocent children and journalists on the receiving end of US machine guns.

<comment><USER9> This exactly. Governments do need to be held accountable for secret crimes, secrecy should not be allowed to enable continuing those crimes. Exposing them was necessary, even if it was illegal.

I do think Manning was naive and sloppy for handing the whole thing over to Assange, though in her defense, Assange seemed fairly reasonable and responsible at the time. It's only after this enormous leak that he seems to have gone mad with power.

<comment><USER10> I can sleep a lot better tonight having read this thread of thoughts after some of the awfulness I just read over at reddit.

With this issue there is a remarkable degree of misinformation, as well as fascist ideology supporting the the surveillance state. These neverending, unechecked powers undermine civil rights and allow human rights abuses to go continue. And it's all wrapped in this package of 'a good liberal just supporting the good guys like Obama and Hillary that evil Assange is trying to destroy.' Assange is far from perfect, but I cannot understand how people do not fight back in solidarity with outrage against human and civil rights abuses.

<comment><USER11> > I cannot understand how people do not fight back in solidarity with outrage > against human and civil rights abuses

I think there is a very sad aspect of human nature which makes humans bow before power.

<comment><USER12> It's called mortality :) people have X years to live and try to make the best of it and not everyone is ready to sacrifice that time for doing the right thing.

<comment><USER13> The simple fact that other people are unjustly suffering means that my mortality of x years is not the best. I think this alone should make everyone want to help make the world the best it can be. But empathy and love loses to selfishness and greed.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> It's been said that one person's freedom fighter is another's terrorist.

> The files she copied also included about 250,000 diplomatic cables from > American embassies around the world showing sensitive deals and > conversations, dossiers detailing intelligence assessments of Guantánamo > detainees held without trial, and a video of an American helicopter attack > in Baghdad in two Reuters journalists were killed, among others.

Has there been any sort of "ethical" system designed to show a person how they are supposed to whistle blow? I'm only familiar with the SEC's guidance, on what they expect you to do and going public isn't one of their main points.

How should a person become a whistle blower like Manning or Snowden while making sure there is no collateral damage to people in the field?

I mean, the main point against Snowden and Manning seems to be that they released way too much information to the public that could be seen as doing more harm than good depending on your point of view.

<comment><USER15> There was no collateral damage to people in the field due to the Manning leaks, so I guess she figured it out.

<comment><USER16> How do you know?

<comment><USER15> The prosecution admitted as much at her trial. Read up on United States vs Manning for more details.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> With apologies to William Burroughs.

        (To the whistleblowers,
         in hope that they stay alive.)

        Thanks for systemic corruption
        and disregard for the rule of law.

        Thanks for the transparent lies and
        carefully framed talking points.

        Thanks for the profitable arms sales
        to be used against us in next year's war.

        Thanks for manufactured consent.
        "You all saw him. He had a gun."

        Thanks for the American dream,
        placing profit first until
        the bare greed shines through.

        Thanks for always shooting the messenger.

        Thanks for hate peddling politicians,
        that fear anything they don't understand.

        Thanks for the surveillance state
        and the war against privacy.

        Thanks for another Crypto War,
        while the real war criminals walk free.

        Thanks for presidential pardons,
        given only when politically convenient.

        Thanks for defending title and flag,
        betraying the oath to the Constitution.

        Thanks for always taking special care
        to make sure no good deed goes unpunished.

Thank you, Pres. Obama, for finally doing the bare minimum and _eventually_ freeing Chelsea Manning. As a long-time believer in "better late than never", my thanks really is sincere.

There is still a lot of work left to do.

<comment><USER18> I'm always torn on these things. Chelsea Manning _did_ break the law. If she hadn't at least spent some time in jail, it could have potentially turned into a much larger political nightmare.

<comment><USER19> 1) Our government broke the law left & right. 2) Our government has outlawed leaks.

In the context of (1) the law (2) is unjust, and thus punishment is unjust.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> how much you wanna bet that Julian Assange will conveniently forget his agreement to be extradited if Manning gets pardoned? [https://www.yahoo.com/news/assange-agrees-extradition-us- rel...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/assange-agrees-extradition-us-releases- whistleblower-222625053.html)

<comment><USER21> He didn't pardon her.

<comment><USER22> This DoJ list of clemency recipients includes both pardons and commutations.

[https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemencyrecipients](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemencyrecipients)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> >> "More than a million supporters of Edward Snowden have petitioned President Barack Obama to pardon him, but the former National Security Agency contractor hasn't submitted the required documents for clemency, according to the White House."

Source: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/snowden-no- clemency-r...](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/snowden-no-clemency- request/index.html)

Forms: [https://www.justice.gov/pardon/application- forms](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/application-forms)

____

EDIT: Appears the only way to contact Ed is by Twitter: [https://twitter.com/Snowden](https://twitter.com/Snowden)

<comment><USER24> I agree with the Manning pardon, I don't think Snowden deserves a pardon. Manning's motives and understanding of what she was doing is worlds different than Snowden's.

Snowden sought a position to access more information for his leaks _and_ he leaked information on valid espionage programs along side the unconstitutional ones.

Let him live out his days in Russia, he paid for it with intelligence.

<comment><USER25> So you don't think Snowden has done great enough good for US citizens for anybody to consider a pardon for him?

<comment><USER24> Snowden should be pardoned for his work revealing domestic wiretapping program, the other programs he leaked he should do his time for.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER26> > "Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary, and has sought refuge in a > country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence > in our democracy."

What an amazingly loaded statement that is. Russia is just a straight up "adversary" now? Infuriating.

<comment><USER27> It's also worth noting that the _only_ reason Snowden is currently in Russia is due to actions by the US State Department. Snowden left Hong Kong with a plane ticket to Cuba by way of Moscow. While he was on the plane, the US State Department revoked his passport, forcing him to miss his connecting flight. To make it seem like it was in any way a deliberate choice on his part is rewriting history.

<comment><USER28> If both Russia and Cuba were ok with this, what is the reason he can't just get on a plane to Cuba now?

<comment><USER27> The Americans put pressure on Cuba to not admit Snowden:

"Snowden failed to board an onward flight to Cuba the next day, the paper says, again citing Russian officials, because the US put intense pressure on Cuba, warning of "adverse consequences" if Snowden were allowed to board the plane. The Cubans subsequently informed Moscow that the regular Aeroflot flight would not be permitted to land in Havana if Snowden was aboard."

[http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global- News/2013/0826/Russian...](http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global- News/2013/0826/Russian-media-report-How-Snowden-missed-his-flight-to-Cuba)

<comment><USER28> So, Snowden is deliberately choosing not to go to Cuba because he will probably be deported to the US?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> Commuting Manning's sentence without pardoning Snowden feels like politics to me.

Manning's actions embarrassed the Bush administration so Obama will commute.

Snowden's actions embarrassed the Obama administration so Obama won't pardon.

<comment><USER30> Chelsea Manning stood trial. Edward Snowden did not.

<comment><USER31> This has been discussed before. A President can pardon people for crimes they may be charged with in the future.

<comment><USER32> Yes, but politically, "we dropped her sentence to seven years in jail" is more tenable than "we pardoned someone who never stood trial nor served a day in jail".

<comment><USER33> So don't pardon Snowden. Commute the charges against him. Like 97% of the cases that go to prosecution in this country, let him plea to a lesser crime and serve a 10 year sentence, minus time served in Russia.

<comment><USER34> Edit: Sorry, this was rubbish, I was thinking of Assange not Snowden. \-- Note that charges (technically, a European Arrest Warrant in order to get him for questioning) against Snowden have not been made by the U.S. but by Sweden, for a suspected rape. So Obama definitely cannot commute them in any way.

There is no extradition request to the U.S., so when fighting an extradition to U.S., Snowden is beating a straw man.

<comment><USER35> That's Julian Assange, not Edward Snowden.

<comment><USER34> Sorry. Yes of course. Thanks.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER36> Good.

I wish that he would just pardon her, though. I don't want the next administration to somehow undo this.

<comment><USER37> She can't be tried again though, so how would they undo it?

<comment><USER38> Legally they wouldn't be able to convict Manning of the same crime again. The state can do what they do with every dissident; surveil her in the extreme and then prosecute her for some trivial offense.

Law is extremely complex and dense. You have certainly broken laws but haven't been punished for them sole reason that you haven't drawn the ire of the political class.

Do you think it's just mere coincidence that anytime a citizen embarrasses the police they end up being busted for some trivial offense? The Fourth Amendment was designed to prevent the state from harassing citizens and to rate limit the states ability to execute revenge convictions. With everyone having a dossier on them now, the state implicitly chills citizens from pushing back against the government.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER39> What exactly did Manning blow the whistle on? While Snowden exposed what he believed was _illegal_ spying on Americans, Manning just leaked a bunch of classified information about war that he/she believed was immoral .

<comment><USER40> A good summary that goes well beyond the collateral murder video:

[https://www.thenation.com/article/long-list-what-we-know- tha...](https://www.thenation.com/article/long-list-what-we-know-thanks- private-manning/)

</comment></comment><comment><USER41> And now let's see if Assange keeps his promise to extradite to the US. [https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713](https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713)

<comment><USER42> The US hasn't asked him to be extradited, so that seems moot.

</comment></comment><comment><USER43> So Assange is booking a flight to the US now?

"If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ caseWikiLeaks added" \- wikileaks [[https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713](https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713)]

<comment><USER44> > So Assange is booking a flight to the US now?

Doubt it, he'd need to persuade the US government to seek his extradition first then convince the UK government that the US has preference over the existing EAW.

That's quite a lot of persuading to get done just to ensure that a tweet comes to fruition. My guess is that he'll either keep schtum or come up with a narrative about how US Government still cares enough about the Manning leak to want to extradite him.

I'm glad that Obama has done this but I don't think this is great for Assange. His argument is quite a bit weaker now I think.

<comment><USER43> "Assange is still happy to come to the US provided all his rights are guarenteed despite White House now saying Manning was not quid-quo-pro." \- [https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/821753136692002816](https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/821753136692002816)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER45> This is great and I think pretty easy to see as a good thing by all sides (I hope). I never understand why pardons and this type of thing always seem to have a waiting period though; just being grateful the right thing (As I see it) is being done.

<comment><USER46> Political cowardice, mostly. It's something you can only safely do once you're a lame duck. Not sure why they don't typically do it in December, though.

<comment><USER47> Obama has been pardoning people since 2010, and in fact pardoned a whole big chunk of people in December of 2016.

Source: [https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama- pardons](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER25> Sigh... The scheming and carefully crafted rhetoric that White House has developed against Snowden is just plain disgusting.

<comment><USER48> Ironically, Snowden likely skipped the country as part of his leak precisely because of what had happened to Manning. Claiming that there's mercy for him if he comes back for a last minute commute by an outgoing President after 7 years... I mean, who do they think they're fooling?

<comment><USER25> Precedents set for whistelblower treatment have not been very good the past decade.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER49> Manning will be released in May this year, just after Trump's first 100 days in office. It's almost like Obama is timing this as a reminder of himself at a point in the future where it's bound to provide maximum irritation to his successor. (I don't think that's the actual intention, but we can definitely look forward to some interesting tweetstorms from Trump in May.)

</comment><comment><USER50> This made me genuinely happy. Thanks, Obama. For real.

</comment><comment><USER51> Now pardon Snowden

<comment><USER52> I sort of wonder if it would matter. Whether they should or not, I really doubt the parts of the government he pissed off will forgive him just because they are told to.

<comment><USER53> A pardon would allow him a valid passport to travel to a different country that would be willing to house him without having to ignore extradition requests. He would not need to return to the US if he felt endangered there.

<comment><USER52> Okay THAT is a good reason then. Thanks for the correction.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER54> Why is this no longer at the top of the front page? ~900 points in ~1 hour alone. Please, mods, some transparency?

<comment><USER55> Users tend to flag purely political stories and moderators add downweights to them. That's part of keeping the balance on HN, which is not a primarily political site: [https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).

<comment><USER56> It is a little weird to let that affect a story that is obviously of huge interest to the visitors of this site.

<comment><USER57> It's being flagged by people who are also users of the site, and is right at the center of a category defined as likely off-topic by the site guidelines.

While I certainly find it an interesting topic worth discussing, I think the rules and community moderation is working as advertised and as designed here.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER58> For anyone else who was curious:

Commute - reduce (a judicial sentence, especially a sentence of death) to one less severe.

</comment><comment><USER59> This is good news. Manning committed a crime (giving away info from the government which she was thought to protect), but it does not justify destroying a life. She served well beyond enough time behind bars, too many years for my taste, so my soul says is great she is released. If now the prison time for more ordinary people could be reduced to more European-human lenghts.

</comment><comment><USER60> I hope this will set the tone for how whistleblowers are treated in the future, and I wonder what the President Elect has to say about this.

<comment><USER61> I am confident he will have a few tweets about this before tomorrow morning.

Does anyone know if President Elect Trump has the authority to overturn this sentence commuting?

<comment><USER62> Subsequent presidents can "un-pardon" people pardoned by previous presidents, so I have a hard time imagining that a commutation is somehow immune to that kind of thing.

EDIT: See follow-ups. I may be mistaken here, and need to run to a meeting, so I can't dig any more now.

EDIT 2: [http://swampland.time.com/2008/12/25/more-on- pardons/](http://swampland.time.com/2008/12/25/more-on-pardons/)

Relevant quote, "Ulysses S. Grant's first clemency decision, on his third day in office, was to revoke two pardons granted by Andrew Johnson. Both men challenged Grant's power to do so, and lost their case in federal court."

EDIT 3: Here's the link to the blog post linked from the Time article, in edit 2, from the Wayback Machine, for sake of completeness.

[http://web.archive.org/web/20090212091707/http://pardonpower...](http://web.archive.org/web/20090212091707/http://pardonpower.com/2008/12/on- revocation-of-pardons.html)

<comment><USER63> > Subsequent presidents can "un-pardon" people pardoned by previous presidents

I've never heard that, never heard of it happening, and don't believe it's true. However, I've never researched it. Can you cite an example or a source?

<comment><USER64> IN RE DE PUY, the court found that a prisoner pardoned by the previous administration could have his pardon revoked by the following administration so long as the pardon had not yet been delivered and accepted by the prisoner.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER65> Also I haven't heard anyone talk about how the UN and outside observers stated that Manning was tortured during her (not sure of the right pronoun, for pre- operative) prison time before the trial. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley- mannin...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning- cruel-inhuman-treatment-un). That should never happen, even if you are guilty. This happened with Obama was president. I know he has a mixed record, but I have never understood his aspect of not being able to change the military-spy- industrial complex more. I don't believe he's afraid of them. I just think he has so much stuff to do, to face up to, one person can't change it all.

Well, we can work toward changing it, if we elect people who want to change.

</comment><comment><USER24> > Speaker Paul D. Ryan called it "outrageous." "President Obama now leaves in > place a dangerous precedent that those who compromise our national security > won't be held accountable for their crimes," he said in a statement.

Didn't GWB pardon Karl Rove for blowing the cover of a CIA agent? I feel like I'm not making that up.

<comment><USER56> What a clown. She has been held accountable. 7 years in Florence isn't nothing.

Edit: to answer your question... I don't think Rove was pardoned of anything. Libby did have his sentence commuted though.

</comment></comment><comment><USER66> Why with over 900 points and 339 comments is this item falling to #9 already? Mods?

<comment><USER67> Flagging probably.

<comment><USER68> And it's likely tripped the "overheated discussion detector" algorithm. I don't know the details, but nearly 400 comments in 2 hours seems likely to have crossed a threshold.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER69> > "Chelsea Manning is somebody who went through the military criminal justice > process,

it was torture. you can give it names but it was torture. your criminal justice process involves torture.

> was exposed to due process

naked torture

> was found guilty, was sentenced for her crimes, and she acknowledged > wrongdoing," he said. "Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary and > has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to > undermine confidence in our democracy."

I am so disgusted right now. Why do they even pretend.

</comment><comment><USER70> I was always missing a single website dedicated to the outcome of Manning's leaks. Listing cause by cause in a clear design that can be posted as a reply to all that say what Manning did was wrong. Maybe one day I will build such website and I will start with this list: [https://www.thenation.com/article/long-list-what-we-know- tha...](https://www.thenation.com/article/long-list-what-we-know-thanks- private-manning/)

</comment><comment><USER71> the white house comment about snowden is incredible. Snowden basically released evidence of wrong doing on the part of the US agencies and he is made a scapegoat while the agencies continue business as usual. Oh and tough luck he happens to be in Russia which is now on the official enemys list, while it is completely irrelevant for snowden's actions.

</comment><comment><USER72> The extensive, reasoned, considerate discussion in HN on this complex topic makes me happy and gives me hope. HN is a modern iteration of the traditional literary salon.

Freedom is not free. Whistle-blowers pay a heavy price individually for the freedom of others. And Whistle-blower cases are rarely clear-cut.

</comment><comment><USER73> Having already attempted suicide twice, I don't think she would have lived through 4 years of the Trump administration. Obama literally saved her life.

<comment><USER74> Yes, and he's also responsible for jeopardizing it for many, many years; this is not enough.

</comment></comment><comment><USER75> In the last 4 years of Obama presidency the clout America had abroad has considerably reduced. Especially after the whistle blowing incident , the ruling dispensation came across as corrupt and unethical. The bargaining power was compromised greatly because of this and the whole world now knows about spying , prism , NSA etc. A Greek philosopher Diogenes I think it was or Socrates dont remember had said this awesome quote , " Pardoning treason will lead to self destruction" . This decision seems to have a strong left liberal bias unfortunately

<comment><USER76> Wait what? Pardoning treason is Standard Operating Procedure and I mean all the war mongers, Halliburtons and manufacturers of evidence of weapons of mass destruction... these treasons get automatic pardon, in fact no trial.

</comment></comment><comment><USER77> > The act of clemency could be seen as a reversal, at least in part, of the > Obama administration's unprecedented criminal crackdown on leaking

Little late…

</comment><comment><USER78> It's too bad it took a presidential order to commute her sentence to 8 years, when it probably should've been the longest sentence she should've gotten by default, if not much less, if she even had to be jailed in the first place. I think she only got imprisoned for so long because that's how the military operates. Right or wrong, they want to set an example of soldiers that something like this, so that others aren't encouraged to do the same.

Also, too bad Obama didn't pardon Snowden. He should have.

</comment><comment><USER79> I am surprised to see no 'WINNING' from Breitbart.

</comment><comment><USER80> Any idea why he wouldn't make it effective immediately?

</comment><comment><USER81> How can this be so far down in the list?

</comment><comment><USER81> Finally!

</comment><comment><USER30> She. Not they. Chelsea Manning identifies as female.

<comment><USER3> Sorry. I didn't know which pronoun to use because I didn't know if gender changes apply retroactively, grammatically speaking. I'm having trouble knowing which one to use to write this post, too. At the time of the leaks Chelsea Manning identified as Bradley, a male. Is it politically correct to use 'she' for all past references, including the times where Chelsea Manning identified as male? Or would it make more sense to use 'he' when Chelsea Manning identified as male, and 'she' when Chelsea Manning identifies as female?

<comment><USER82> Very understandable. I believe pronouns apply retroactively.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER82> Off-topic but.. "they"? Manning isn't a group of people. Just say "she", it's really easy.

<comment><USER83> I don't know what Chelsea Manning's pronoun preferences are, but I have plenty of friends who prefer "they," which also happens to be the gender-neutral singular pronoun in English.

For example: "Someone came by asking for me earlier? Did they give you a name?"

Many people who do not identify as male or female prefer "they."

<comment><USER82> That's a valid point, but if you don't know enough about Chelsea Manning's recent history or prison sentence to know her preferred pronoun (or even read the article where it's made very clear) why even comment?

<comment><USER84> The comment was on-topic and interesting. That's two reasons I can think of.

Also, this is not a new story, so frankly it's easy to have relevant opinions on the topic while perhaps just doing a skim of the story.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER85> This is great ... his life compared to Snowden has been horrid!

On a different note I never bought he wants to be a woman just a PR thing to keep his name, plight and fight in the public eye. Maybe in five years or so his story will be told and we will see him as a him not a woman.

 __ __*This is getting downvoted? I 'm sure your now aware of fake news which is created to push agendas and or make money. Thus, I don't believe much of what I see and read and this always seemed far-fetch to me and that it was so out there at the time that it was made up by those helping him. It allowed him to fight for transgender rights and remain in the public eye ... what other way could Manning in solitary confinement have maintained his visibility in the public and coral as much help to free him? This was great PR ... from someone who has created fake news and such to benefit their start up!

<comment><USER57> > On a different note I never bought he wants to be a woman just a PR thing to > keep his name, plight and fight in the public eye.

Once again, the information that became public from the military through the trial was that Manning met with a gender counselor about gender dysphoria _before_ collecting and leaking information, much less being in the public eye. This is a fact that is not in dispute.

> This is getting downvoted?

Yes, when you try to spin a completely unsupported fantasy that is inconsistent with the well-documented historical sequence of events to justify misgendering someone, that's not really a valuable contribution to the discussion.

</comment></comment><comment><USER86> I am going to miss Obama.

<comment><USER87> Why?

<comment><USER88> He has a likable personality.

<comment><USER89> He really does. Regardless of whether you like his politics or not he really seems like a genuine, down to Earth person. He always seems professional and articulate. I will miss that aspect of a president.

<comment><USER90> > He always seems professional and articulate.

Yes, especially in comparison to you-know-who got elected... what a massive contrast.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER91> What will Obama do next!

</comment><comment><USER92> Serious question: if Manning thought he was a rabbit, how many people would refer to him as one?

<comment><USER93> Changing _species_ isn't the same thing as changing gender, and it's an insane comparison to draw.

</comment></comment><comment><USER94> > Ms. Manning is set to be freed on May 17 of this year, rather than in 2045.

She must feel ecstatic! It's good that she will be free to live the rest of her life as the gender she feels comfortable expressing.

<comment><USER94> genuinely curious why my comment was downvoted? didn't expect to see so much transphobia on HN :/

edit: seriously who is doing all these drive by downvotes?

</comment></comment><comment> temp-dude-87844 Sadly, this act was just another political tool to contrast with Snowden.

Quote from the article:

 _the White House spokesman, Joshua Earnest, discussed the "pretty stark difference" between Ms. Manning's case for mercy with Mr. Snowden's. While their offenses were similar, he said, there were "some important differences."

"Chelsea Manning is somebody who went through the military criminal justice process, was exposed to due process, was found guilty, was sentenced for her crimes, and she acknowledged wrongdoing," he said. "Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary, and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy."

He also noted that while the documents Ms. Manning provided to WikiLeaks were "damaging to national security," the ones Mr. Snowden disclosed were "far more serious and far more dangerous." (None of the documents Ms. Manning disclosed were classified above the merely "secret" level.)_</comment>


Shows HN: One Million Tweeps Project - <AUTHOR> http://www.onemilliontweeps.com/

<comment><USER2> Thanks for the post, chegra!

</comment><comment><USER3> awesome!</comment>


Open Letter from a Millennial: Quit Telling Us We're Not Special - <AUTHOR> http://phoenixandolivebranch.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/open-letter-from-a-millennial-quit-telling-us-were-not-special/

<comment><USER2> Am I the only one who, midway through that rant, couldn't help but to sing it along to an extended version of a certain Suicidal Tendencies song?</comment>


Show HN: My Windows Phone Homescreen-Concept with Customizable Backgrounds - <AUTHOR> http://fabian.svbtle.com/reimagining-the-windows-phone-8-homescreen

<comment><USER2> Maybe add background parallax on the horizontal movement as well?

</comment><comment><USER3> The notification center is one of the features I've been missing. Nice job!

</comment><comment><USER4> I think that's pretty cool!

</comment><comment><USER5> Love it

</comment><comment><USER6> You want a custom background image that's barely visible because of all of those blocks plastered all over it? And you thought this was good design?

<comment><USER7> >"And you thought this was good design?"

Why are you being rude? Just saying that the background won't be noticed would it be enough</comment></comment>


Introspecting Running Python Processes at PyCon US 2012 - <AUTHOR> http://lanyrd.com/2012/pycon/spcbr/ <comment><USER2> I've implemented a few different versions of getting traces from processes in python. At my last job I eventually settled on one which wrote out the thread states every few seconds to RabbitMQ. Whenever something was up you could just attach a listener and figure out what's going on.</comment>


Ask HN: sample IP license / transfer agreement - <AUTHOR>

I need to transfer/license IP (basically a github repo) for a project I've been involved in. Are there any good (simple) sample contracts out there? How would I go about structuring this around a github repo? <comment><USER2> I can probably help you draft a license. email me: email@example.com</comment>


DreamIt Incubator Holds Funding Day To Commemorate First Graduating Class - <AUTHOR> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/dreamit-incubator-holds-funding-day-to-commemorate-first-graduating-class/ <comment><USER2> Okay, I'll preface this with letting everyone know that I'm a part of the Philadelphia community, and I know a lot of the guys that were a part of DreamIt.

I am very familiar with many of these companies. I use Dropcard about a few times a week. These guys have made it extraordinarily easy to send a digital business card that you can easily add to any address book. Just try it. It will take you less than 15 minutes to get set up. I'll certainly be using it at TC50 next week.

Vuzit is a great idea backed by great technology. Some people really are looking for a white label solution for viewing documents and don't want their documents hosted at Scribd or Docstoc which have more of a YouTube model. They've also got some features you won't find elsewhere.

Anthilllz also has some great potential. LinkedIn lets you recommend others, but this entire site is built upon your recommendations and others' opinions of you. Imagine you're looking for a new web designer. What is more important, a LinkedIn profile (essentially a resume) or a place that has truly honest reviews? If Anthillz is successful at building out its network through its "Trusted Colleagues" feature (which is a great viral feature), then you'll find it quickly become a place where people's reputations live and die.

I can't really speak to the other companies as I'm not too familiar, and I think that maybe some of the ideas for some of those companies might be a little flaky from these summaries, but there are some very promising companies in the bunch. They may not ever be huge, but they can certainly be successful.

</comment><comment><USER3> I would have to disagree with the Philly bashing here. If you think all we have are cheesesteaks you are grossly misinformed.

Philadelphia has a long history of being at the forefront of the technology curve. It was the birthplace of the first commercial computer in the US. It was home to Commodore Business Machines. If you owned a PC in the 90s there was a great chance it had an ENSONIQ sound card in it. If you take out your iPhone and make a phone call its powered by Interdigital technology. Odds are your digital TV is using a set top box made by Motorola. And like it or not your broadband and cable are powered by Comcast.

If you are really interested in seeing what other companies are in the Philadelphia area check out <http://www.phillytechhq.com>.

The high tech community is alive and well in Philadelphia

</comment><comment><USER4> Is it just me or are most of those ideas a little boring? I don't see anything that would make me get excited as an investor.

</comment><comment><USER5> Wow, sleep.fm puts in an appearance.

<comment><USER6> Sleep.fm could be promising, if they ditch the webapp route and made a hardware device that is configured through the web, similar to picwing.

<comment><USER7> One route to do both would be adapting their app to iphone/android/other smartphones.

<comment><USER8> yep we have a windows mobile app were refining and working on multiple platforms!

See this video here ... <http://www.vimeo.com/1629637>

An alarm clock that tells you to go back to sleep, saves lives, reminds you, motivates you, provides greetings/well wishes on special days, allows you to remain close to those who are far away, provides personal information.... that is <http://Sleep.FM>!

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> It seems that a requirement for dreamit, was a 2.0 name :( - I hope this fad soon fades.

<comment><USER10> We actually applied to Dreamit but they told us we had to switch our name to TicketStumblr.

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> Interesting to me that their site (dreamitventures.com) is a dotnetnuke portal (based on the favicon and linking structure). Didn't think that was being put to use by people positioning themselves on the cutting edge these days.

</comment><comment><USER12> Where is DreamIt located? I can't find it on their website.

<comment><USER12> Oh, nm, I found it deep in their FAQ. Philadelphia? Yikes! (Not saying anything bad about Philadelphia, but it's not exactly known as a startup hub. You really do want to minimize the odds against you in a startup situation.)

<comment><USER13> I'm a Philly native, and participated in the DreamIt program this summer. -- vuzit.com. In 2005/2006, it seemed that everytime Paul Graham wanted to bash a city's startup culture Philadelphia got thrown in there. I'm hoping that perception is changing ... <http://www.paulgraham.com/siliconvalley.html> <http://www.paulgraham.com/startupfunding.html>

Philly is one of the largest startup hubs in the world for bio-tech and life sciences. Philly might not be known for its tech scene as much, or very early stage investing, so DreamIt has been a big step for the ecosystem here. Philosophy on investing seems different than what I see in Silicon Valley and NYC.

There is money here: Entrepreneur Magazine's VC 100 in August 2008 listed Ben Franklin Technology Partners of Southeastern PA as tied for 3rd in the country as far as #deals done. Josh Kopelman and Chris Fralic from First Round Capital are here too.

There is community here: Phillystartupleaders.org is a group of 250+ mostly tech entrepreneurs and VCs that meet monthly for a happy hour event. Indyhall.org is one of the most successful coworking spaces out there. IgnitePhilly was a huge success, with another one planned in the next couple of weeks. phillytechhq.com is a blog aggregator of all the tech companies here (big + small). The "user group" community is pretty huge too: <http://phillygroups.org/community/GroupDirectory>

There are alot of universities that provide access to talent: Drexel, Penn/Wharton, Temple/Fox, etc.

Philly also has an awesome combination of art and American history that make it a wonderful place to live. I hope this clears up some perceptions about Philly!

<comment><USER12> Very useful information -- I'll have to look more into it. Thanks!!!</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Uber's lockup expiration may be muted because a ton of shares are underwater - <AUTHOR> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/ubers-lockup-expiration-may-be-muted-because-many-shares-are-in-red.html <comment><USER2> Couldn't happen to a better bunch of egotists.</comment>


I am tired if all these articles saying WEB2.0 is easy. - <AUTHOR>

<comment><AUTHOR> Several writers claim that because technology costs have tremendously dropped in the last few years, it is easy to create a successful company. Man. Common. It's just like saying "Sneakers cost $15.00, now everyone can be the next Michael Jordan". Yes, it is easy to put something up on the Net, but I bet you turning that website of yours into a successful business is going to take more than a nice design and private beta.

<comment><USER2> what they are talking about is "easy entry".</comment></comment>


Enaml: A declarative UI library with a Cassowary layout system for Python - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/nucleic/enaml <comment><USER2> Serious suggestion: Post some screenshots of some example GUIs. It's very hard to evaluate wether a GUI library is worth spending any time on without seeing it.

<comment><AUTHOR> They've got a ton of screenshots and accompanying code snippets here:

[http://nucleic.github.io/enaml/docs/examples/index.html](http://nucleic.github.io/enaml/docs/examples/index.html)

<comment><USER2> I'm supposed to find that (easily!) from the posted link, how, exactly?

Edit: Plus, those screenshots tell me exactly nothing. A button and a single text area do not a GUI layout make.

<comment><USER3> The examples are very thorough, and show off a lot of behaviors that would be very difficult to achieve with raw Qt.

<comment><USER2> I don't want thorough. I want one or two examples showing non-trivial interfaces.

As a potential user, you've got about 30 seconds to grab my attention.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> Hi, author of Enaml here. Development of new features in Enaml has slowed in the past year as my work focus has shifted. Enaml is fairly stable however, and is currently in production at multiple Fortune 500 companies, including a top 10 investment bank. Happy to answer any questions about the project.

<comment><USER5> I know this question isn't directly related to your project, but I thought I would give it try...

How do you feel about python GUI applications going forward?

I ask because a GUI related question comes up on the python subreddit every now and again and it goes something like this:

1\. make it on the web using <myfav web framework> 2\. make it on the web using flask 3\. use Kivy as you get mobile for free 4\. use TKinter 5\. use PySide 6\. use enaml 7\. use wxpython 8\. use PyQT

The discussion then leads one to believe that GUI programming might be dying and most things can be accomplished in the browser or with kivy as most of the GUI binding projects have slowed or died. (Tkinter being another exception as its ships with Python)

I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.

<comment><USER4> My thoughts are mixed. On the one hand, there is a ton of money being funneled away from desktop UIs and being dumped into browser technology. On the other hand, browsers are awful platforms for developing desktop applications and there doesn't seem to be any real drive to address the shortcomings, as everyone is focused on mobile.

My current work is focused on the web stack, not because it is a better platform, but because that's how everyone is wanting to deploy these days.

However, I've been starting to see some chatter and recognition lately that perhaps the web is best left to documents, and large applications should continue to use native toolkits. This is promising. There is room for both technologies, and I hope that mindset takes hold.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> I have found enaml to be invaluable to my work (writing simple UIs for scientific applications), and much more intuitive to use that PyQt or TraitsUI. It provides an extremely expressive mechanism to react to (nested) changes in the UI or the model.

<comment><USER6> TraitsUI was a cool idea, but not implemented that well. Enaml carries it to perfection. I love how enaml provides a ton of functionality, while it doesnt get in the way of experimentation. Just see the matplotlib widget [1] how easy it is to integrate other widgets.

[1] [https://github.com/nucleic/enaml/blob/master/enaml/widgets/m...](https://github.com/nucleic/enaml/blob/master/enaml/widgets/mpl_canvas.py)

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> As an aside the enaml codebase makes for great reading material - it's one of the cleanest python codebases I have seen. Disclaimer - Chris is an ex colleague and personal friend.

<comment><USER8> Gotta say, the C++ source is pretty gorgeous as well. (Disclaimer: not a colleague or friend)

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> Another truly amazing fact: It's one of the very few Qt applications that has proper docking - e.g. you can dock windows in any of your floating windows (much like Visual Studio), and something that neither Qt4 or Qt5 support internally: [http://nucleic.github.io/enaml/docs/examples/ex_dock_area.ht...](http://nucleic.github.io/enaml/docs/examples/ex_dock_area.html)

</comment><comment><USER10> Looks like a mix of Python and Yml just like how QML is a mix of Javascript and Yml</comment>


Show HN: Nodebook – Multi-Lang Web REPL on Docker - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/netgusto/nodebook <comment><AUTHOR> I came up with Nodebook while training for coding interviews.

I wrote this because I wanted to work in the kind of environment used for these interviews, namely an editor in a browser, and I needed a quick way to browse and run my snippets when preparing. That, and procrastination.

There's also the possibility to watch code and run it in the shell directly, without browser UI.

I use it these days when I need to do quick experiments or POC. I think it can be of many other uses.

<comment><USER2> It looks nice, thanks for sharing it.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> From a quick look this looks like a subset of what [https://repl.it/](https://repl.it/) provides (which is fine!).

Any features / wild ideas you feel deserve more attention than a quick look?

<comment><AUTHOR> It does indeed look like repl.it!

I'd say the main feature is owning the code you write (on your filesystem) which allows your scm on top of it.

Also, the cli mode (watch and run), which does not expose a web ui, and is nice in combination with tmux and vim.

If I ever get the chance to do it:

* Markdown file support

* Integration in vscode as a code runner

* Use Monaco (potentially with code insights) instead of Code Mirror

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> It would go a long way to package this such that somebody on a mac can just download it and run, or install with brew. Also after disabling security, chmoding +x, and attempting several patterns on the command line I could not get this to run, each time spitting various errors i.e. "Could not find notebooks in .: Error while looking for notebooks: skip this directory", "Could not find notebooks in /Users/mfrey: Error while looking for notebooks: open /Users/mfrey/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB: operation not permitted" etc.. maybe I'm just an idiot but at this point of dysfunction in a program I'm experimenting with for kicks, my capacity to continue futzing with it is exhausted, just FYI.

<comment><USER5> As a long time mac user, I suggest getting access to a Linux machine and even learning how to use it if necessary. If you use the mac terminal its not all that hard. Options are:

\- get a DigitalOcean or other cheap VPN. $5 or less/month with easy ssh access. Be sure to set up ufw just for fun.

\- have an old mac? install Ubuntu 19.10 and be surprised at how fast and usable it is. My 2011 Macbook pro is amazing with an external monitor.

\- buy a cheap machine. I would suggest a Pi 4 with 4GB and have one, but since the architecture is ARM it sometimes is a hassle. Maybe someone has a suggestion for a low cost linux server box.

edit: I forgot the main point- if you want to play around with a lot of cool stuff, like this, much of it is linux by default so having a linux box is perhaps a good long term solution. I use brew, but for me these are better solutions.

<comment><USER6> Or install multipass, which installs ubuntu containers inside a ubuntu kvm on your Mac: [https://multipass.run/](https://multipass.run/)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Hmm, this is very interesting. Currently I use CodeRunner on my mac to do this kind of one-offs but I rarely save them. It's mainly an easily way for me to test out a theory on how some code will behave in an isolated environment. I would be interested in this if it could run itself inside a docker container as well so I could easily throw it on my NAS. I guess I could just run it in a VM but...

<comment><AUTHOR> > if it could run itself inside a docker container

It could be done by running the snippet containers in the same docker host as the one running nodebook (by exposing the host's docker socket to the nodebook container). Is this what you have in mind?

<comment><USER7> Yes, I was thinking docker-in-docker was probably the answer to that. Or a single docker container with all runtimes installed in it so you didn't have to deal with the DiD overhead. Hell, I could probably just throw it into a docker with just node/php/java (since that is my main use-case) and call it a day.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> I'm curious about security... On one hand it's running inside a container? OTOH, there's no key/password required for clients to connect i.e. any local software can connect?

For remote access, perhaps an SSH tunnel?

<comment><AUTHOR> The api listens on 127.0.0.1 by default; so yes, local software can connect (see [1]).

File pathes for read/writes and execution are not imperatively ordered by the client, but done declaratively based on the notebook ID.

When the toolschains are in docker, the code runs in disposable containers.

It would be possible to add creds (for instance, with creds stored in ~/.nodebook.conf); do you think it's mandatory?

The cli mode (--cli) does not expose a port, but watches notebooks and outputs them in the terminal (works nicely with $YOUR_EDITOR)

\--edit--

I guess running this on a remote server through SSH tunnel would workyes, but I think it's safer and easier to version control the notebooks and run them locally.

[1] [https://github.com/netgusto/nodebook#%EF%B8%8F-a-bit-of- warn...](https://github.com/netgusto/nodebook#%EF%B8%8F-a-bit-of- warning-%EF%B8%8F)

<comment><USER9> One mechanism I've seen (Jupyter) is to print out a token when the listening service (Webserver) starts. Then this is the credential needed to login to the web GUI. The token is randomly generated at runtime and unique to each time the server restarts.

It would be expected that you're running this on a computer you already control access to (remote server that you access with an SSH tunnel or a personal workstation). In this case, the token approach is a nice medium between full user accounts and ease of use while still providing some security.

<comment><AUTHOR> Oh yes I see, it's indeed a nice in between. I will do that, like it! Thank you.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


5 Software Development Trends for 2018: Developers Needed - <AUTHOR> https://stackify.com/software-development-trends-2018/?utm_source=HackerNews&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=HackerNewsSoftwareDevTrends?utm_source=hackernews&utm_campaign=hackernewsblogarticle <comment><USER2> One of the items is about VR going mainstream. Well, I don't think so. Right now, PSVR is probably the closest example of this tech going mainstream, but still on its early days. In general we need to see more advances in VR. 1) more wireless devices, more ergonomic 2) more content and I am not talking about ads 3) better graphics. Right now they are pretty poor and it affects the immersive experience</comment>


Show HN: Management as a service - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@humanworks/management-as-a-service-89fd71321a1f <comment><USER2> This isn't management. This is product management. This might be useful, but don't conflate it with the kinds of benefits that come from having an experienced team & business manager (using the generally accepted definition of "manager").

That said, I'd be interested to hear from people if they would find this sort of SW-dev bot/nagware useful. To me I'd imagine it could come across as similar to the kind of micromanagement people resent from flesh & blood managers.

<comment><AUTHOR> You are right, it wasn't 100% accurate.

As for the usefulness so far it works great as it helps the team get synced.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Direct link to Geekbot: [https://geekbot.io/](https://geekbot.io/)

I'm probably a bit jaded in regard to Medium, but I feel it took me a really long time to realize there was actually some substance behind the article, i.e. an actual product. The link to the product is pretty far down and well after a lot of things that "aren't about me and my problems".

Good luck.

</comment><comment><USER4> Just got this setup on our Slack channel. The setup was a really pleasant experience. Well done!

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> This is standup-meeting-as-a-bot, not management as a service.</comment>


Across the globe, millions join biggest climate protest ever - <AUTHOR> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/21/across-the-globe-millions-join-biggest-climate-protest-ever <comment><USER2> I attended the protest in Melbourne.

There was reportedly around 150k people, which is just over 3% of the city's population... that's crazy to me.

<comment><USER3> The 97% of us that didn't go remain ignored so that the 3% can have endless coverage.

<comment><USER4> Feel free to have your own counter-protest if you don't want to be ignored.

<comment><USER5> I protested by burning 100 gallons of gas in my guzzling pickup truck.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Where do all those used computers go? - <AUTHOR> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081125-where-do-all-those-used-computers-go.html

<comment><USER2> Vice did a story last year on Guiyu - a tech dumping ground in China: <http://www.viceland.com/int/v14n9/htdocs/ctrl.php></comment>


Show HN: Sometimes, it helps to offer an incentive. - <AUTHOR> http://rougefeta.com

<comment><USER2> While it needs some tweaking, the concept is brilliant.

If you -- break 40 minutes on your 10K this weekend for your 40th Birthday.

Then I -- will buy the next pack of beer.

If you do not -- break 40 minutes on your 10k etc.

Then you -- will buy the next pack of beer.

Herein publicly posted and promised.

Email: Yours

Email: Mine

Posted with Date and Time.

++then++

Update:

You ran a 39.40 <<link>> and so I owe you a pack of beer.

<or>

If you -- are right about the fact that vinegar is an acid.

Then I will -- pay you 20$

If you are wrong. -- then you pay me 20$

etc.

It needs to be rolling, so that people can see the bets and the pledges rolling by, and others can chime in on some of the bests.

Bets can be open (like the 10K example above) and others can bet in on it too.

or

Bets can be closed (like the vinegar example) and others can either vote for the right answer, or they can just watch one person win.

I like your MVP, and I think you are onto something. Just because people don't understand what you are trying to do, don't let it discourage you. You've just got to get drill down into this functionality. Also, I haven't checked to see if anyone is already doing this, so you may want to do some market research.

[http://www.quora.com/Why-did-social-betting-sites-like- blueb...](http://www.quora.com/Why-did-social-betting-sites-like-bluebet- predictify-and-hubdub-fail)</comment>


Death and transfiguration: golden age of the corporation may be coming to an end - <AUTHOR> http://economist.com/news/business/21665073-golden-age-western-corporation-may-be-coming-end-death-and-transfiguration?cid1=cust/ednew/n/n/n/20150917n/owned/n/n/nwl/n/n/NA/email <comment><USER2> _> The cult of quarterly earnings may lose more of its following_

I'd love to see that. But still you need to make money in the near term and once you start making money, you have to keep making money, that's where the quarterly earnings cult is coming from. If your topline falls for 3 quarters in a row and you have no incredible new strategies to make it grow again soon, of course investors get worried.

Finally, it's not fair to compare corporations like GE, that makes most money producing stuff in plants ww, with Facebook, that makes money running a glorified web app. Those are 2 completely different worlds, even though some of the problems Corporate is facing are the same (capital allocation being the 1 concern of both type of companies).

<comment><USER3> I love the characterization of Facebook as 'a glorified web app'.

This is true, but only in the sense that a Ford motor car is a wheeled widget. Or maybe the Apollo capsule was just a flying tin box.

I don't use Facebook myself but I can still appreciate that running a web application that scales to the level of Facebook is at least as hard as designing and building cars or other factory produced widgets.

They handle over a billion different users in a month with a mind boggling scale of user graph interconnection. They handle the uploading of hundreds of millions of photos per day and manage to keep it all working when much of the site is written in PHP.

<comment><USER2> Sure, but making stuff at the scale of GE or a big car maker is much more involved. First, if you make a mistake people can die, both due to faulty products or faulty plant processes. Second, you are dealing with thousands of stakeholders, including thousands of suppliers. Third you might be dealing with thousands of products, try keep that as efficient as possible is as hard as running a web service for 1 bl users.

What I am trying to say is that big Corp are still very good at efficiently organizing certain type of processes, on which then companies like fb depend on (servers, etc.).

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> It'd be interesting to know if the author is a John Fahey fan:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfiguration_of_Blind_J...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfiguration_of_Blind_Joe_Death)

<comment><USER5> I think it's far more likely that the author is a Strauss fan:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_Transfiguration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_Transfiguration)

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Ribbonfarm covered this better and in greater detail in A Brief History of the Corporation: 1600 to 2100 [http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/06/08/a-brief- history-of-the-...](http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/06/08/a-brief-history-of- the-corporation-1600-to-2100/)</comment>


How To Ensure Your Startup Will Fail - <AUTHOR> http://howtosplitanatom.com/news/how-to-ensure-your-startup-will-fail/ Luckily, most of the worst startup mistakes are things that you can change. What better time than the beginning of the week to take a look at some of them? <comment><USER2> This article could not be more true. I have to be honest; I'm probably less technically inclined than most of the applicants for Y Combinator, however, I have marketed and sold products for start-ups that initially believed their product would sell itself. Sales, networking, and marketing are just as important as the product development and the technology behind an idea.

The notion of "a penny saved is a penny earned" is also a great one. Toyota is a good example of how this philosophy helps them to continue turning huge profits. I worked for Toyota and virtually nothing is wasted there, especially when it comes to money. If I needed a new pen I had to prove to them that the pen I was using before had run out of ink!!

</comment><comment><USER3> Great article. Goes to show that you need the whole package. Your 100k lines of code aren't going to do it all for you.</comment>


The Aircel Chennai Open Contest – The Startup Guy - <AUTHOR> http://www.vijayanand.name/2015/01/the-aircel-chennai-open-contest/ <comment><AUTHOR> For those of you who have been dying to want to go watch a tennis match in person, I have a few passes that the folks at ACOPEN graciously said, they could give away!

Do read the full blog for further information!</comment>


TechCrunch: Journalists Or Startup Shills? You Decide - <AUTHOR> http://www.theawl.com/2013/09/techcrunch-journalists-or-startup-shills-you-decide

<comment><USER2> I just realized I haven't been to TechCrunch in months. It's rapidly become more of a press release distribution platform than a "journalistic institution."

And how much _interested_ traffic is it really driving? Look at the number of comments: 2, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0. It used to be full of (albeit low-quality) comments. I don't think that can be blamed on the commenting platform.

As I prepare to launch a startup and close up funding I've made contact with some TC writers, but I don't see a TC writeup as integral to the launch process as it used to be. I don't know if there's anything that would fill that gap -- Show HN, maybe? PandoDaily, kind of? Talk to startups that have been featured there, and they'll be shocked at how little traffic and interest it drove - one app had a full writeup about them and they saw a bump of a couple hundred downloads.

TC is as much of an ego-rub for the founders as it is anything else at this point.

<comment><USER3> TechCrunch lost comments not because of traffic, but because they switched to the barely-functional LiveFyre commenting system. (yeah, correlation != causation, but the drop happened immediately after.) The previous Facebook Comments system had limited functionality, but it atleast _worked_.

I've written articles on it [1]. Yes, I have no life.

Disclosure: I'm a rather frequent commenter on TechCrunch.

[1] [http://www.quora.com/Max-Woolf-2/What-does-Max-Woolf- think-a...](http://www.quora.com/Max-Woolf-2/What-does-Max-Woolf-think-about- TechCrunchs-decision-to-stop-using-Facebook-comments)

<comment><USER4> [1] That's the oddest Quora entry I've seen. Did you ask yourself a question so you could elaborately answer it?

<comment><USER3> No, someone else asked the question. (on Quora, you can tell who asked the question by seeing who is the first follower.)

Case in point: [http://www.quora.com/Online-Commenting/Whats-the-deal- with-M...](http://www.quora.com/Online-Commenting/Whats-the-deal-with-Max- Woolf-on-TechCrunch-AOL-comments)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> TechCrunch head editor Alexia Tsotsis published a succinct response here: [https://medium.com/p/dbe10eb0874b](https://medium.com/p/dbe10eb0874b)

Disclosure: I'm a rather frequent commenter on TechCrunch.

<comment><USER5> Impressively honest at least.

Calling it "inside baseball" is definitely sour grapes though.

The whole post seems to say that rewriting a press release and then doing a crappy job of trying to "dig deeper" is a small thing rather than a complete inability to do what you promise to do by calling people "reporters".

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> TechCrunch are nothings now. This year every major story has gone through AllThingsD and other sources, with TechCrunch rushing to post a rewrite.

All they have left is soft-serve YC press releases, major startups posting minor updates, and generic shit like the rest of AOL's content farm churns out.

I won't be at all surprised when next year they announce TechCrunch is re- launching as a category on Engadget who are actively pursuing startups and are much better at spewing out rewordings and zero-impact articles.

</comment><comment><USER7> Love this because, if nothing else, The Awl's writers can...write...circles around the TC crew.

<comment><USER8> I had trouble reading The Awl's piece. Seemed verbose and off-point.

<comment><USER9> Verbosity is not a net negative except to robots. The Awl hires writers who can _write_ with the kind of style that aficionados of well-turned prose can appreciate.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Startup shills. That doesn't necessarily mean they don't perform _any_ journalism, or that they don't aspire to be journalists, but the news they've chosen to coverage depends highly on their sources choosing them as the primary outlet for news. That used to make sense, but not anymore, and especially not since 1) Big Media have taken tech coverage seriously, 2) FAR superior sites like Ars & The Verge provide much better general technical cover for the same or similar things, and 3) there are a plethora of niche blogs/sites that delve deeper still into the minutiae of nearly anything you could imagine (consider android police, androinica, phandroid, android guys, android atlas, andcentral, ...). Imho, TC isn't the only one suffering -- Mashable, Pandodaily, etc aren't exactly getting the new hotness first, either.

</comment><comment><USER11> Last two companies I worked with, the ceo was close with a TC writer and would basically just forward them press releases to put up. They are absolutely shills, but we have to ask if journalists are any different outside of tech.

</comment><comment><USER12> I boycotted TechCrunch since the quality of their journalism has dropped (circa 2010). Then Arrington leaves and now its an empty shell.

</comment><comment><USER13> Can they be both Journalists and Startup shills? Very interesting play by play on the fight over there!

<comment><USER14> Well, when they write "Like all start-ups Elite Daily is a mix of hustle, fibbing (or outright lying), and mismanagement. We've seen each of the best startups exhibit these traits." they are being a very poor shill and some might question the journalism given that belief.

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> Why is Disqus a thriving though flawed comment platform and Livefyre a seemingly dead and flawed comment platform?

I don't bother commenting on sites with Livefyre as do most people, it seems.

<comment><USER16> How's it flawed? (Disclosure: I work for Disqus and I'm genuinely curious.)

<comment><USER15> It seems to scale well and it provides a world wide commenting service -- in that sense it's an enormous success.

But from site to site the UI changes, even within a site. Wired often has articles where the various disqus links back to the article is broken.

You seem to want to be a social player with follow, etc., but I've only every seen one person with a follower.

I will get notifications of a response, but no response can be found, the link to the response goes nowhere (or the browser "cannot" find it to position itself properly.)

The load times are becoming terrible and noticeably slow down page load as I watch the disqus icon spin around.

You in some sense violated privacy when you without telling people started enumerating was upvoting.

Often on Chrome, however you inject comments is such that the Chrome find command, c-F, cannot find the comments.

It's hands down one of the better commenting systems out there, but in many ways it's flawed -- that's okay, gives you room to improve.

What I find interesting is that Livefyre seems in some sense to be a clone but whatever choices they made make it seem like commenting is a waste of time.

HTH!

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Every now and then I like to be reminded why I put Middle School out of my mind.

<comment><USER18> You can always remind yourself by going here: [http://valleywag.gawker.com/](http://valleywag.gawker.com/)

</comment></comment><comment><USER19> from my understanding, western school of journalism is about providing both sides' opinions (like public's on molesting priests and the priests' on themselves), while i don't remember a techcrunch article simultaneously doing both - promoting a startup as well as providing an opposite opinion.

The original posts at "theawl" \- i wasn't able to read it beyond the first couple of paragraphs, as it is sounds like an incomprehensible blabber to me, something along the lines of an anxious teenager describing his word argument with another teenager.

</comment><comment><USER20> TC harbors some of the dumbest commentators, and many of them post on their real Facebook account. It's like they don't know how to Internet.

</comment><comment><USER21> False dichotomy.

</comment><comment><USER22> In my experience...

They absolutely, positively will not cover you unless you've raised money.

Even if you have stats that blow competitors out of the water - crickets.

It's been demonstrated more than once that their traffic isn't useful to the vast majority of startups (doubly so for B2B companies).

It's a nice thing to have coverage from them. But in no way needed for a successful launch of a company.

<comment><USER23> I agree it's totally unnecessary for your company, but we haven't raised money and we're a Utah-based b2b company and they've covered us twice.

[http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/07/vidpresso-wants-to-help- tv-...](http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/07/vidpresso-wants-to-help-tv-stations- put-your-tweets-and-facebook-comments-on-air/)

[http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/vidpresso-adds-photo- touchs...](http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/vidpresso-adds-photo-touchscreen- support-to-help-bring-twitter-to-tv/)

<comment><USER22> Just curious - do you have a dedicated PR person? Contacts? Blind reach-out? AirPR?</comment></comment></comment>


Show HN: Darknet.py – Linux Network Anonymization Tool - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/multiversecoder/darknet.py <comment><AUTHOR> 22/02/2020 Update: - I have fixed some typos. - I have fixed some compatibility issues in RHEL distributions using SELinux. - Improved the exclusion of addresses that should not be routed via TOR. - DNS port 53 to 5353 - Started a parallel project to support other Unix like distributions like BSD.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> This is my second experiment with Python. I hope it's useful to you. I tried to use only the standard library + TOR. Compatibility with Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora is confirmed. If there are any requests or you found Bugs please contact me or start a pull request on github. I humbly await your feedback. Thanks.</comment>


AOL Mail was rewritten in Microsoft Silverlight 2.0 and released today. It is better than Gmail. - <AUTHOR> http://webmail.aol.com/

<comment><USER2> Can someone qualify the "It is better than Gmail" statement? I'm not opposed to the possibility that it is, but I would like to see what you think is better. Thanks.

<comment><USER3> It seems a little faster, but it's got image ads all over the place.

(Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on Gmail.)

Edit: No, after rechecking Gmail's web interface (I use IMAP from home), it seems about the same speed. I'm not sure why someone would think it's better.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> My favourite feature is the large, colorful ads scattered about my inbox giving me some real choices for lasik eye surgery. I appreciate that.

<comment><USER5> I prefer the "enhanced by Google" logo at the top.

Between the Flash ads (in the message content area, for some reason), animated GIFs (in both the margins and header), and little tooltips (that appear at random and don't go away until clicked), it's like playing a video game with right-click Block all over the place. Video games are big business, so I predict this will be a hit, especially with the male/under-18 crowd.

It doesn't take kindly to being in a small window: GMail reflows, for the most part, while AOLMail just starts overlapping elements. Also, it appears to be English-only (compared to GMail's 40+ languages), so it's fun to play with but I wouldn't use it on a daily basis.

It's flashy, but not as mature as GMail (which itself is a frighteningly low bar).

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> You are kidding me right? I spent a few minutes playing around with it and there is no way in hell I'd switch to this from gmail. It has a few nice touches, but generally is slow and badly designed.

Cons:

1\. Slow. Much slower to navigate around than gmail. This is killer.

2\. Mail receiving is slow. Sending a mail to gmail, appears in under 30 seconds. Sending a mail to AOL mail took over 5 minutes to appear.

3\. Interface is confusing. Create a contact and the button to actually do the create is above and to the right of the form?

4\. Filtering is too hard to access, doesn't show you a preview of what will be filtered.

5\. Way too much space taken up with ads.

Pros:

1\. Calendar integration is good. Nice to have it right there in the same interface.

<comment><AUTHOR> I found it faster than Gmail and like the interface better. I'm focusing more on the Silverlight vs. Ajax side of this so I ignored the pervasive ads and mail receive speed issues.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> Ca,94941, 415 389-4100

(mill valley pd)

<comment><USER8> Thanks :-)

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> Does this run in Firefox on Ubuntu?

<comment><USER10> Probably not, since as far as I know silverlight has not yet been released for linux.

<comment><USER11> If Silverlight were released for Linux, that might mean MSFT has figured out how to bring DirectX 10+ APIs to Linux, which is a big deal as part of the problem with WINE is graphics performance.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> could someone please provide a credible state, zip code and phone number that would work in the sign-up?

They don't seem to want users from outside the US.

<comment><AUTHOR> Las Vegas, Nevada 89109 702-278-XXXX

</comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> I know, I know... blasphemy! But damn, it's a sweet little application.</comment>


Rust-Libp2p Networking over Tor - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/tcharding/ping-pong <comment><AUTHOR> I just spent a few days getting a POC rust-libp2p application to run over the Tor network. And a blog post about it, thanks. [https://github.com/tcharding/ping-pong](https://github.com/tcharding/ping- pong)

<comment><AUTHOR> Woops, seems I can't type: [http://tobin.cc/blog/tor- libp2p/](http://tobin.cc/blog/tor-libp2p/)</comment></comment>