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Solid under the solid Checkered Steel plate makes this case heavy-Duty, i thought Cooooooooooool Painting!
Hello. It's very very artistic work!! 10 for your works. Really nice looking cool case. Red paint and cutstom airbrush paint are very nice job!! Top custom, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBIIxtJl5Cs Touch swicth system is really awesome work. You changed Antec logo plate to switch of ilumination light.. lol !
Thak you for your positive comments. I was interested in remodeling the case by your favor. Thank you.
Sorry... I sniped it. in my dream. lol..It's joke. It doesn't at all see it in painting. Great working R.K.P.P!!!
Thanks for your comments. Your shooting pierced my case accurately. The "Syuriken" had been thrown out to your PC before. (^_^)
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If it doesnt come with a trained chimpanzee to hold the lens cap for me then im afraid im just not interested.
*edit* in a bellboy suit please.
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Leica has combined with luxury fashion house Hermès to create the M9-P Edition Hermès. The camera is coated in ocre-colored calfskin leather and features a matching shoulder strap. The camera also features a redesigned, smoother top-plate and control points, designed by the automotive designer, Walter de'Silva, previously responsible for the M9 Titanium. Only 300 of the cameras will be made. A yet more exclusive series of 100 'Edition Hermès – Série Limitée Jean-Louis Dumas' kits will also be sold, in honor of the former president of Hermès. These kits will include a 28mm f/2, 50mm f/0.95 and 90mm f/2 lens, and a exclusive Hermès camera bag. The limited editions will cost $25,000 and $50,000 respectively.
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Solms, Germany (May 10, 2012) - Leica Camera AG presents a new limited edition: the Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès". Following the highly successful Leica MP "Edition Hermès" (2003) and the Leica M7 "Edition Hermès" (2009), this camera is the third in a line of premium special editions of the Leica M-System to be created in collaboration with the renowned Parisian house. The Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès" is being offered in a strictly limited edition. The exclusive numbers, unique product design and premium finishing with numerous extras make this a truly special edition in every respect.
The highlight of the Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès" is the "Veau Swift" calfskin leather in "ocre," supplied by Hermès for the leathering of the silver-chromed version of the Leica M9-P camera. This extremely fine and supple leather is applied not only to the camera body, but is also used for the shoulder strap included in the set. The camera also sports a special design, created in collaboration with the automotive designer Walter de'Silva. Furthermore, various features of the camera body have been redesigned, including the top deck, the base plate, the shutter speed dial, the multifunction wheel and the shutter release. These details distinguish the cameras from the standard version of the Leica M9-P and emphasize the unique status of the limited edition. In addition to a dedicated serial number, each camera also bears one of a series of consecutive limited-edition numbers.
The Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès" is offered in two different sets, with either one or three lenses. When compared with their standard versions, the design of all the lenses incorporates numerous differences in their details, ensuring a perfect harmonization of the cameras, their lenses and accessories.
This first of the Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès" sets is available from June 2012 in a worldwide limited edition of 300. In addition to the camera, the set includes a silver-anodized Leica Summilux-M 50 mm f/1.4 ASPH.
Following this will be a very special set available from July 2012. The Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès – Série Limitée Jean-Louis Dumas" is a celebration of the friendship and collaboration between Jean-Louis Dumas, the former president of Hermès, who passed away in May 2010, and Leica Camera AG. A strictly limited edition of only 100, the camera in this set is accompanied by three lenses: a Leica Summicron-M 28 mm f/ 2 ASPH., a Leica Noctilux-M 50 mm f/0.95 ASPH. and a Leica APO-Summicron-M 90 mm f/ 2 ASPH., all featuring a silver-anodized finish.
This unique collection of photographic equipment finds a fitting home in a hand-finished Hermès camera bag that is available exclusively as a part of the Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès – Série Limitée Jean-Louis Dumas." The camera bag is the first Leica camera bag ever to have been created by Hermès, a company world-famous for its manufacturing excellence. As an homage to Jean-Louis Dumas, a Leica photographer, this second set also includes a book with a selection of his pictures. The photographic work in two volumes shows an entertainingly diverse portfolio of 200 black-and-white images on 190 pages, all captured by Jean-Louis Dumas with his Leica M camera.
In the limited edition, the frame selector lever, accessory shoe and Leica script on the top deck have been omitted in favor of its unique design. In all other technical details, the cameras and lenses of the special editions are identical to those of the standard versions.
The Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès" and Leica M9-P "Edition Hermès – Série Limitée Jean-Louis Dumas" are available exclusively through Leica Stores and Leica Boutiques, including the Leica Store Washington DC.
If it doesnt come with a trained chimpanzee to hold the lens cap for me then im afraid im just not interested.
*edit* in a bellboy suit please.
It's not that exclusive...
I mean, no baby seal fur, no rhinoceros horn inlay, and not a scrap of snow leopard fur.
And they call this exclusive?
$30K markup for some shoe leather and a tatty canvas bag?
That fancy, Apple-esque box better be old growth forest.
At least it's got a colour sensor...
Though if it was a Leica sensor that shot the jig and assembly shot above, I'd say it has a really green cast. I wonder if that's how they come out of the camera?
I hate to say this but I kind of like the silver colour with the ocre leather...personally I think it looks cool...and the bag looks nifty too, but I don't think I could ever take a camera that looks like that out on the street...I would be too embarrassed..(maybe my wife can carry it and I could just steal it for a moment when I see an old plump man about too jump over a puddle of water when walking the streets of Pars....) but as a novelty to take out and show my friends...that could work...trip the shutter a few times, marvel at the leather and the bag..jup I could see myself do that but for the streets the monochrome m will have to do with that new best ever 50mm.....aaah please don't wake me up from this nice dream...
Dear posters below,
It doesn't matter what you say, about the price, the design, the principles, values, practicality, etc. This camera will sell. People are going to buy it. People will love it. They won't have enough of it. Leica is still going to be around, possibly a lot longer than you. And you know what? They're gonna make more limited edition products just like this.
I don't own a Leica, maybe I never will, but as a fellow photographer, I think it's pretty cool to spice some stuff up a bit sometimes. If you don't get at all excited over anything camera related (and it applies to all the other product announcements) then maybe photography ain't for you. Unless you're just a boring purist photographer, in which case you should just buy yourself an SD1 and not bother posting anything at all.
Please stop crying.
who cares about starving and dying kids.
well let´s spend 50000$ on a useless camera.
the world is a sick place.
and yes i spend some of my money and i work for a charity organisation in my spare time. with 50000$ we could do a lot of good.
but instead of spending the money and buying a "normal" M9 this end up in the hand of some rich idiot without a soul or conscience.
i guess they are making photos at charity partys where they spend 500$ too feel good.
if you really care about the "poor", you should rejoice that people spend 50k on a camera.
you do realize that the 15-20% applicable tax will go for the benefit of the common men, do you?
and if someone has 50k to buy a camera, who are you to know that they wont ALSO do charity? maybe they wont but i tell you what i know, they SPEND money and EMPLOY people who create the services the "rich" can and will go for.
wake up
Gothmoth, I couldn't have said that better.
camillako...maybe but more often than not people with this kind of money don't get rich from being generous.
I agree with Gothmoth and put this kind of extravagance up there with wearing fur and expensive private number plates!! Just a senseless waste of money in the name of vanity.
Sure a lot of overly wealthy give generously to charities, but the ones who do it with conscience rather than a 'hey look at me I'm helping a poor person' attitude don't squander like this.
Gothmoth - I'm sure these people spend some of their money on charity too. What makes you so great by only spending "some of your money" and working for a charity in your spare time? Why are you spending any time on a gear forum when there are people going hungry?? I mean think of the people you could feed and help or the extra time you could spend at the charity organization if you didn't hang out on a photography site or take pictures!! I mean come on, how can anyone possibly spend time taking a picture when their are people that are hungry and hurting!!! Oh the humanity!!
I'm guessing most of the people who are able to buy this camera do more for charity they you ever have or will.
I agree with Gothmoth.
Thing is. I can understand people buying a Ferrari, a Porsche, a Lamborghini. Because those cars not only look gorgeous, they are also technically extremely advanced. So you get high-tech for your money.
A Nex 7 with Zeiss lens, a Fuji Xpro1 is already an very expensive camera but at least it offers you performance like one of those supercars.
What makes me sick with this Leica offer, is that they offer their technically outdated camera with a hedonistic and cheap design modification and charge extreme prices for it.
Anybody buying it is stating, I have so much money, I can really waste it on such a camera because it is a limited offer, and I do not care that frankly, this is a ripoff.
This is an (intended) moral slap in the face of your fellow humans.
@Wagner: What exactly is your problem? Recently read your bible? Whom much has been given, much is expected from.
When cheap cameras cost 200$, a camera offering visible better performance costing 2000$ might be still justifiable.
But in case you failed to notice, you pay 5 digit amounts of cash for the fact that a) it is limited so that not every plebsescian can afford nor buy it and b) that its exterior has been cheaply made different. The optical performance is just the same.
There is a difference spending money on better gear performance or spending money on setting yourself apart from the rest of the world. It is a hedonistic, sad state of mind IMHO.
Well put cxsparc.
Christian, that's a silly argument and you know it. There is a difference between indulgence and blatant extravagance that serves no other purpose than to say look at me!
Thanks guys, you all just reflected a brilliant example of my point.
Gavlis - it's the exact same argument as Gothmoth put out. I agree it's stupid, that was the point, to show that Gothmoths argument was stupid. He/she was the one saying people shold be fed instead of buying this camera. There are MF digital cameras that cost this amount, there are watches that cost far more then this and any cheap digital watch tells better time then an automatic.
cxsparc - what is my problem?? Im using the same argument as gothmoth to show how stupid it is. Anybody posting on this site has more money then 99% of the world. Anyone spending a $1,000+ on a completely discretionary item is in the top percentile of the world. Because some fools here draw the line just above wheat they can spend is hypocritical at best.
As far as the blatant extravagance, most of these sold won't see the light of day. They will be bought as investments. But there are hundreds and thousands of products that are all about extravagance, all the multi thousand dollar bags, jewelry, $400 burberry scarfs, it's just lame to put arbitrary values on when it becomes extravagant. To many, many people, 50k is nothing.
As far as the bible goes, if you believe in some imaginary sky fairy, that's a whole other issue.
@Wagner: Just as Gavlis perfectly put is, there IS a difference between indulgence and blatant extravaganze.
Not believing in the bible is one issue, but not believing in moral behavior is rather analogue.
This is similar with
people who bought patek phillippe watches, while Orient is offering similar technology with a much lower price.
people who bought a Hermes Birkin Bag, while their 1 on 1 replica with the same quality, and functionality (Made in Korea) offering the 1/100 price..
its all about luxury and status.
if you have the money, you cant buy it..
if you dont, then you can complain here..
it is normal..
This is the exact opposite to the purposeful, straightforward, no-nonsense camera design that I appreciate. And as far as "coolness factor", E-M5 actually has more of that.
That's Leica's way of saying:
You thought that the 'regular' M9 was expensive and overpriced?
We could sell these door-to-door in exclusive old-age retirement homes... set up in the dining room, pass around the product, collect the checks...
That calfskin's going to get grubby really quick if I forget to wash my hands after tinkering with my engine or changing the oil, sheesh.
And as has been mentioned : that's not a proper man-bag.
I do like the curvy top-plate...
That's why the kit offers gloves as well, so you don't mar the calfskin and don't scratch the metal surfaces....
What a purposeful design!
Perhaps they think the elegant ladies who might use this camera wear gloves all the time.
$25,000 and $50,000 is a huge difference to me, but obviously not for who actually buys this edition.
Photographers don't buy these. Leica used to make great tools for photographers, but jewelry making has become their heart and soul. These are probably intended for corrupt Chinese government officials. Sad.
Would that be the exclusive Damian Hirst edition with a body made from human bone studded with diamonds, or only the ordinary Damian Hirst sharkskin edition, Sir?
I would prefer a pinkenta model:
At least Bernie Ecclestone's daughters know what they will be getting for Christmas now.
Absolute true, - until he/she has boxed the first few hundred millons, - that's US greenbucks, yes. From then the pure dynamics of these greenbucks do the trick, all by themselves. You'll be busy counting, - and small Leicas, Hermes Edition or whatever, say a Porsche of whatever model you might prefer, counts for absolutely nothing in total 'end of year' balance sheet.
So correct: You don't get rich by wasing money, - true as long as you're 'working on' getting rich.
it seems this version using a metal dial on the control panel which seems very different from the current M9-P. But why no the back view photo of the camera?
Great to know that the Leica brand instills in me supreme confidence that all that expenses towards a Leica is going towards photographic excellence, similar to how all expenses in a hermes bag goes towards R&D in making the ultimate tampon container.
Does Hermes still own some shares of Leica?
Anyway, it a nice minimal design camera but I wish it has a little Leica logo engraving on the metal plate.
Screams mug me! I'm surprised it doesn't come with a matching Berken bag,that would encourage the wife of the filthy rich to buy one for themselves.
For U$50,000 I'd rather put my money in Gold, Yen, CH Francs or go on a 3 continents photo trip and bring back those photos, probably could hire people to carry my rigs too.
Canon should follow the ASUS way and present the 5D Mk III Lamborghini Edition: all carbon fiber & titanium. Unbreakable, unstoppable. At a bargain price of 15K USD.
Forget it. The designer of 5DIII never had an aesthetic form in mind. It will always look awkward no matter what you cover it with.
It's an elegant camera, and I would be there in a heartbeat. But I don't see a hot shoe, and I'd hate to have my 283 just sitting around gathering dust. Oh, well.
Leica are trying to be the Gucci / D&G / Versace of cameras. Totally pointless! People who buy this have too much money.
Lipstick on a pig!
How long before this company goes out of business?
Looks damn cool.
Won't buy though. It's the kind of thing I'd be looking through a museum glass 30 years from now, untouched, no shutter count, because probably anyone who buys one will want it that way. Untouched. Premium collector's item. Mmm...
This one was for making money from the Chinese:
J. Qian,
You just look down the officials...
This one is too cheap!
They will only accept top grade cordyceps, wild ginseng and shopping cards with unlimited credit.
That titanium frame should allow me to swing the camera by the shoulder strap whilst beating muggers about the head and shoulders and not have to worry about the frame damage that might otherwise occur with common magnesium frames.
I really love when DPreview publishes reviews of products that make sense.
Another reason why I pass by here every week is to look for articles about photographic technique.
This camera certainly looks nice but that is all.
It is a posers' accessory.
This camera is a fine art object and priced accordingly. Sheer beauty.
Now why can't Canon do something like this? Take a 5D mk3 and cover it in nice Vermont yellow pine and sell it for $12,000.
"You can't cover 5D mkIII with anything and make it look elegant."
Because it already is?
I guess we have different aesthetics sense. Personally, the word 'elegant' is not what I would use to describe any DSLRs. Some mirrorless compacts and the new Leica, yes, but not DSLRs.
Collectors item! For the ones who appreciate the finer things in life I have a collectors item that looks even cooler a camera than this. Fed 3. You just might find that luxurious jewel in the best photographic boutiques. I recommend it warmly, but only for those who really know what photography is at its' finest and can afford it.
I wonder why Walter de Silva can't create a good looking camera as this one for everybody. All things being equal, good design should be affordable, if it isn't, then it's not good design. Beautiful... Sure, but there has to be a real justification for the price one pays. Aesthetics is not the only component of good design. This is no more than make-up. And, as make-up, it's not meant to be "worn" in strenuous situations. On the other hand, obviously Leica knows this is a jewel to be kept in a safe and does not belong to the real world, but for this Leica should be ashamed of itself. It's totally superficial. Especially coming from a company that prides itself on creating time-lasting and hard working machines. Cameras are instruments for creativity and work. The value of the camera should not be more than what one can achieve with it.
I wonder how many uber-rich will buy these and proceed to shoot pictures with the lens cap on?
Heh, heh...
Personally, it would be wonderful if all cameras were sold and packaged this way. Few companies take pride in how the package gets delivered to the customer today. I bought many Kodak PS cameras and they all came with "collectible" boxes.They were impressive storage boxes. Why not offer your product in packaging that reflects what you think about its value. When you take this much effort to produce such an exquisite product (which I can never afford btw), it's implausible to simply slide it in a plastic bag and surround it with recycled egg crates...
It is not environmentally friendly. My camera is on my desk all the time so I can just grab it and go. The box are stored somewhere for when I need to sell the camera.
They should have removed shutter button instead of hot shoe and frame line selector. Prospective buyer does not need it anyway.
Sounds like Leica has taken a page from Harley Davidson's marketing handbook.
If Leica management go to the next chapter we will soon start seeing Red Dot, Leica branded t-shirts and doo-rags.
On the other hand - and unlike Harley Davidsons - these Leica's do look pretty cool.
When you run out of funds to develop completely new product you simply re-work what you have already got. Luckily it worked fairly well. But once Beetle car doors were too large and light to shut easily so Volkswagen made a virtue out of this by selling the quality of it's door seals. Now Volkswagen makes and sells Audis at a premium and the customers love it. So when you cannot make new product you fix autofocus, make a b&w only camera and put a leather grip and new top plate on another and charge even more for it. You have to hand it to Leica, they sure know their customer base.
Hey... lets be honest.
A camera optimized for black and white photography is news.
A "special commemorative designer edition" for $25,000 isn't news at all.
Leica is famous for grinding out special editions that only differ in two ways from their regular editions... "they cost a lot more" and are "very exclusive."
Dpreview needs to get off their Leica worship kick. These are just repackaged cameras, offering nothing new or innovative. This website should be about cameras, not about marketing methods of squeezing more money out of people who have too much money for their own good.
The only "news" here is that a few fools will order these overpriced kits.
"This website should be about cameras, not about marketing methods of squeezing more money out of people who have too much money for their own good."
You mean cameras that never get upgraded then? I'm not endorsing Leica (or DP Review) but basically every other camera upgrade path was not necessarily about being "new" or "innovative" - what about the Megapixel race (that seems to have now died finally.. thank God)? When those were coming out fast and furious with the only thing different being the number of MP they could squeeze onto a little sensor was that not a "marketing method"? Every camera maker does something stupid - be it Leica or Canon or Nikon or what have you. This is no different than any other brand.
You cannot separate cameras and marketing. All products are (and need to be) a combination of engineering and marketing. To understand why a product exists and offers the features it does, you need to understand who the company thinks it's selling it to, and how.
We concentrated our coverage on the more interesting cameras, and gave less coverage to the rebadged and repackaged ones, just as we do for every brand. So I don't see how that suddenly equates to 'Leica worship.'
It's not as if these came at the expense of other cameras being announced. And, to be clear, no review was interrupted to provide the coverage.
Unless you're suggesting we shouldn't cover Leica at all?
Absolutely correct. And make no mistake; Nikon and Canon are well aware that many of the professionals they sell to are not professionals by any definition. I can recall gold Leicas being a tough sell but one time in Tokyo I saw a guy in Yoyogi Park shooting both gold M and R cameras (and a Widelux) so such things do happen.
DaveCS wrote: "what about the Megapixel race (that seems to have now died finally.. thank God)"
Did you happen to miss the announcement of the Nikon D800 and D3200? How about the Sony NEX 7?
Stop whining. Who cares if rich people buy these. Mind your own business and go take some pictures you find interesting and compelling. You'll feel better.
If they do not sell them, you will be correct. If they sell everyone of them they make, that is called, "Knowing who your customer is".
Warranty? Why? If you can pay 50K for I don't know what, you can as well fork out 10-15K to have this "something" fixed.
On the other hand, whoever buys them will never use em anyway, thus it doesn't matter if it's broke as they never even know it. Therefore warranty is not relly an issue, isn't it.
For all those been waiting 18 months or more for lens orders to be fulfilled .... it was because Leica was too busy retooling the M9 top-plate and designing limited edition Billingham bags .... oh, and some new, fancy packaging!
Great to be a valued, loyal, customer eh?
I couldn't be any more underwhelmed if it was April the 1st and I suspected it all to be a sick joke.
I'm beginning to loathe leica even more than before. What sad company.
Told you, Leica "cameras" are just fashion accessories...
But thieves and robbers better learn the color of the calfskin leather.
Happy, Happy, Joy Joy! Double the money, no flash shoe.....and it doesn't even say Leica or Hermes on the body! WTF?
Still, I guess my wife would "get it".
Ha ha, and he would be expected to 'wear it in' a bit for you as well :)
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Wa Ssalam Alaikum to you all, The title of this question i know will get a lot of people interested. I have found a mathematical equation that proves Allah is the creator, that we have free will, that there is a judgment day and that there is a hereafter. I should also state it answers a lot of questions in mathematics and physics that mankind have pondered over since the selected schools of thought existed. For example it answers the question of infinity and proves that mathematics is set and there is no type of meta studies. Most People don't realise but there is only one truth in our universe and that is mathematics. We can tell people about the glorious Quran and its mathematical miracles of pre knowledge, but until you have physical evidence in an equation - a non-Muslim will remain a non-Muslim no matter how much we preach. The Quran is only considered the truth and correct because it agrees to mathematics. Now I have physical evidence that Allah is the author, as every Muslim already knew. The amazing part of the equation is that every Surah in the Quran is within the confounds. It is such an easy equation that due to its simplicity it actually is undeniable. All humans know the answer, we just never said it in an equation. Please my friends understand the severity of this find. Once I get in contact with the right people there will be a lot of changes to mankind.
My question is however this Whom do I contact? I have searched for scholars of Islamic background within the fields of maths and physics but all i ever get is pre 20th century search results. I have contacted universities from all subjects including physics, mathematics, theology, Islamic studies to no avail. I have contacted media renowned Islamic scholars to no avail I need to contact someone who can help. Does anyone know who? Please note friends I am not stating I know the unseen or that I'm something I'm not. I do not want any recompense for Allah has given me a gift and as a Muslim it is my duty to pass it on. This is the greatest Dawah discovery to date. Alaikum Salam and thank you |
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If Islam is true then why did the so called truth just came to pass 1450 years ago. And I'm not using so called to be rude but how ever old this earth is and you quantifying infinity which you seem to be the only one in the whole world that can do that why wait so long?
(Jul 07 '12 at 07:35)
PLEASE READ FULLY BEFORE COMMENTING. Give up 5 minutes of your life and l will give you THE THEORY OF LIFE and proof of Allah in mathematics and science that is undeniable because of its simplicity. lt also gives evidence of free will, judgment day and hereafter. Also the Qurans every Surah falls within the confounds of this equation Let me explain l was looking at the glorious Quran in a numerical format which has already been provided What l mean is l started with simple maths from Allah, for example Allah is 1. This is is given numeric. Then I started adding other numbers to values that Allah has provided us in the Quran. Just so you can understand how easy it is; A simple but powerful comment in the Quran like "When he decrees a matter, he only has to say Be, and it is" is easily definable with mathematics. The art of saying/stating is an addition. The Quran goes further and mentions that this decree is a commandment, "BE" We also understand that "lt is" in this commandment is the actual creation being created. So an addition has been added to the equation. Every creature is an individual 1. Due to him being the creator and outside of our mathematics and not restricted by the governing laws of mathematics the created "1" can not be added the initial (1), so the created 1 must have brackets. Hence, this line in the Quran in a numerical format is Allah (1) only has to say, Be (+) and it is (1) Or simply 1 + (1) This is not the equation however. this is merely to show you how easy Allah speaks in mathematics. The equation I have also can not be denied from a scientific perspective. I will make it as short as possible. Please understand in doing so many areas will be left in the grey. Firstly We need to start breaking everything down to its core. Being a Muslim site I don't know if you all would like me to explain how I got to the oneness of Allah or not. I will very briefly for convenience. I started working with the simplest form of mathematics - binary. Binary has many advantages besides being simple. It only deals with a complete number (1 =100%) and nothing. After giving everything it's own unique binary you can start removing every addition onto the binary of life. We don't have to possess any knowledge of the unseen to calculate this. All we have to do is start working backwards from our current position. The process of elimination is quiet easy to do from our current state.. So to make it easier we know there are approx 7 billion people on earth. We can remove each individual "1" from the total. Then let's say there is approx 80 billion Stars, eliminate them, 8 billion galaxies, if we happen to find any other universes besides our current then eliminate them and so forth - even as to say- the unseen chemical compounds until you get to the initial energy. You eventually end up with the initial 1. THIS PROCESS of elimination is not uncommon in science. We have already done this. The LHC was built specifically to find this initial "1", which is called the Higgs Boson OR recently been given the title "Gods Particle" lf we remove any further however you are left with nothing.This is where Science and Religion have been in debate for sometime. How can we come from nothing? Well .... Quantum mechanics tells us that we can come from nothing BUT in order for this to be achieved, the laws must be in place of nothing to produce something. We call this religiously Allah's commandment. So we have two options either accepting that the initial 'I was created and reproduced OR the initial 1 was commanded to exist and reproduce from a hidden deity. Either way we have a creator at the beginning and a command. The command is defined as + because it isn't the actual value that is being explained but the tasks taken to get to the initial creation. For example if I say/command something I am adding to the conversation as I explained earlier. Now that we have in place a "1 +" (Allah being 1 and + being his commandment or addition onto the equation) we have to start breaking down the only truth we know in our universe, and the universal language down to its core - mathematics. When dealing with binary it is quiet simple, the task is already done because all you deal with is + addition and - subtraction or positive and negative respectively. You see in our current knowledge of mathematics we have many different symbols be it for multiplication, division, square root and so on. All these symbols are group methods and fancy ways of dealing with the core. The core of all of mathematics is +\-. For example 3 x 2 = 6 Or 3 groups of 2 (1 + 1 + 1) + (1 + 1 + 1) = 6 Plus and minus are the core of mathematics. Literally "Everything" can be explained by using these 2 symbols if they can be subjected to our laws. To better explain, something to exist it must have a positive and a negative. The art of seeing something is due to it either reflecting light or absorbing it. Even if we don't see it, it's chemical compound must have a positive and a negative for it to exist, for example air. As Muslims we also know Quran states everything was made in pairs. +|-. It has been a common misconception in Islam that people translate this as solely male and female. This has been proven wrong from Science. The Quran is actually talking about "EQUAL and OPPOSITE". So just to get you guys on par again the equation currently is 1 + +|- But this equation is missing time and space within the restrictions of mathematics. Einstein proved in his theory of relativity that the universe is finite. This means within the equation mathematics is its own entity with its own restrictions. It means the initial 1 can not be in the same category as the created 1 due to it not being confound be time and space ; Hence brackets 1 + (+|-) This here is in a religious verbal sense is the same as saying Allah 1, creates (+), everything (+|-) Now for the important area that we never noticed or tried answering This is also saying in a mathematical verbal format One 1, outside of our +, mathematics (+|-) So I asked myself, what does 1 outside of then added on to our finite mathematics equal to? There is only one thing that can exist outside of our restricted mathematics and everything. That is infinity. So the equation is 1 + (+I-) = ∞ Again this equation reads 1 outside of our mathematics, is infinity. Some mathematicians argue about potential infinity within the confound of mathematics. They also argue that there are numerous type of infinity. I argue because of the equational evidence that there is only 1 infinity and every potential infinity is part of that totality infinity and moreso, due to being restricted by a finite situation, infinity within the confounds of mathematics does not and can not exist. This is the only explanation of infinity that doesn't go against our law of mathematics. It can not be wrong because we are finite and hence infinity would have to be an addition to it. HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SECTION So far even though I've incorporate some religious comments, I have explained it in a scientifically acceptable format. Now for the religious significance of this equation In a religious sense it explains something phenomenal. 1 + (+I-) = ∞ The equation explains Allah, Free Will, Day of Judgement, Hereafter. To judge something is to determine its outcome, in a mathematical sense this is explained as Equals symbol "=". In other words life must have come to a conclusion and must have a day of judgment, or an equal sign in the equation Also the hereafter is for eternity or for an infinite amount of time hence in mathematics hereafter is defined as infinity ∞. This is not only the hereafter but it is the attributes of Allah, the best of his names he is the Omni of everything. So the infinity symbol incorporates all of his 99 glorious names 1 + (+|-) = ∞ This also shows that Allah gives humanity free will within the brackets, he allows you to do whatever you want within these confounds. It also explains that if you follow a more positive path than a negative path, once judged (=) you will either go to heaven +∞ or vice versa hell -∞. This also means that once we die it will be scaled and you don't have an option of either going from either heaven to hell or vice versa. Also it also proves that Allah only gives positive 1+ or only creates good. The initially positive covers this aspect, Now how is this proof of Islam and Quran being the word of Allah? Get any Surah from the Quran and it fits, either 1 ayat, combination of Ayats or the whole Surah fits within the confounds of this equation. Let me give you an example Quran 112 Say he, Allah is one 1 Allah is he in all whom depend + (depend for creating or giving anything) He begets not, nor is he begotten (he isn't born or comes from so he (+|-)) And none is like him ∞ Or single Ayats rather than Surahs 59.22 He is Allah besides Whom there is no god 1 the Knower of the + unseen and the seen (-I+) He is the Beneficent, the Merciful ∞ I have written nearly 80 pages so far on the implications of the strength of the equation and what it can be used for. This equation gives a whole new tasfir to the Quran. I can explain Quranic stories now That EVEN though we understood the idea behind it, we never saw the Depth. For example inshallah I will provide an account of Musas life that is more in depth and detailed, as Well as better explained than any other tasfir you've ever read before For example this also means that every prophet was born a prophet and that miracles are not changing mathematics, as to the main reason why science disagrees with religion, but more so before the mathematics is set in place the miracle is put in there at the 1+ stage. This means Allah does not change our mathematics at all. lt also means that Adams heaven was at the (+|-) stage in other words worldly heaven and not the hereafter heaven. Adam could only see the + within mathematics and iblis made visible the - negative This also proves wrong Christianity. You see the 1 + (+|-) = ∞ is not read like this for the Christians. They see it as 1= (+|-)= ∞ Or in verbal sense that Father, 1 is equal to the son (mathematically bound son) (+|-) who is equal to the holy spirit ∞ But it can not be and this proves it once and for all. lt also proves that any types of infinity that we have in mathematics are not actually infinite. There is only one type of infinity and every type of infinity is just a part of that. Please read it carefully and comment. I have left out so much details but tried to pack it in. I wish to hear from all of you sooner than later inshallah 1 + (+|-) = ∞ |
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If you are right, then I say Alhamdulillah, I have witnessed a great moment in history.
(Apr 01 '12 at 11:04)
I have spoken to many mathematicians and physicist and they all agree it's correct. Unfortunately as soon as they realise it proves The Quran as the word of Allah and especially that Allah is the creator, they tell me to keep quiet and don't mention it to anyone. Please understand the severity of this find ANY atheist, pantheist, polytheist, non-theist who doesn't believe in Allah and his oneness due to lack of evidence will be proven wrong. ANY religion who believes Allah has walked amongst us or had begotten a son will be proven wrong. ANY human who does not accept The Quran as the word of Allah would be proven wrong because the Quran every Ayat, is within the confounds of this equation. As soon as they realise they tell me to keep quiet. The last guy i spoke to was verbally crude towards me. Even though he didnt deny he was cursing and making threats. This is why I'm looking for Islamic scholars. I need our scholars to bring it to light. I need them to tell the scientific world. In all honesty the way they react after understanding made me suspicious that they might do something to me. That is why I am not only writing a book, but I'm pasting comments all over the Internet just in case. |
actualy wats d question? |
Aselamu aleikum, dear brother Alhamdulilah,for the gift Allah has given you,I hope and pray you achieve your goal,bi'iznillah.I think you should go to this site:www.harunyahya.com,and talk to the man himself.May Allah protect and cover you with His mercy. Your sister in Islam. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpVHJJMxZa8 Made a video explaining it in detail. Allahu Akbar 47000+ views 500+ likes I thank Allah for everything. |


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Dreaming on two wheelsWhen I was little, my friends and I used to explore every corner of our hometown on our bikes. Back then, bicycles were more of a toy than a means of transportation. I still diligently spin the two wheels along the riverside these days as part of my regular exercise. I read a newspaper article published on Jan. 14, 2013, about Sri Lankan children who commute to school barefoot because they don't have bicycles. After I read the article, I realized that there are many children out there whose life could be better with a bicycle. So I would like to join to help them and let foreigners in Korea know about them. Here are the stories of three girls who go to school in harsh conditions without a bicycle. Binozyt is a ninth grader at Lamanantapurang School in Kilinochchi, Northern Sri Lanka. Her daily routine begins at 4 a.m. to do work she could not do the night before as power goes out every night. She begins her homework as soon as the sun appears over the horizon. She sets off on her journey to school at 6 a.m. and arrives at 8 a.m. The journey is about 8 kilometers long, a four-hour walk a round trip every day. She suffered from jaundice during her stay at a refugee camp during the Sri Lankan civil war. She says, "I easily get dizzy walking under the direct sunlight, so I have to take a break often." There are only four women in Binozyt's family. Her father died from a heart attack when her brother was drafted into military service and killed in a bombing attack during the civil war. Binozyt's mother was injured in the pelvis and has difficulty walking. There is one reason Binozyt wakes up so early to study instead of doing house chores to help her family. She says, "When I was ill at the refugee camp, the doctors gave up on me, saying there is no cure. Bedridden, I resolved to become a doctor and help people." Her mother also hopes that Binozyt will someday fulfill her dream, which once had been her brother's. Eleven-year-old Bu Laksala, who lives in a nearby town called Selbana, leaves for school at 7 a.m. She walks about 3.5 kilometers, over a two-hour walk round trip. Bu Laksala wears slippers and her twin brothers are barefoot. Halfway through their journey, they must walk on a half-paved asphalt road. The gravel scratches their feeble feet and injures them. The older one of the twins cannot walk well due to a developmental disorder. They eat their first meal in school at 10 a.m., provided by the World Food Program. The school's principal, Kisiswan, says, "Over 70 percent of our students walk to school. There are buses, but they operate only once or twice a day and they don't run at all during the monsoon season." Despite the troublesome trip to school, Binozyt and Bu Laksala have never missed a day of school because they cannot give up their dreams. Bu Laksala lives in dugout house, made of woven leaves and mud. Bu Laksala's mother suffers from low blood pressure and her father, a lung and heart disease. Bu Laksala's sister, who suffers from a pain in the shoulder where a bullet penetrated during the civil war, does whatever she can to get her hands on things to make ends meet, but work isn't always available. Bu Laksala's mother, Anita Byakumave says, "We would be much better off if she did house chores for a wealthy family, but we would be happy only for a short time that way. In the long run, however, it is better for Bu Laksala to study hard in order to break this vicious cycle of poverty." Moon Sang-Mi, who is a social worker from the Korea Children's Foundation, says, "Parents in Kilinochchi have a passion for children's education, so that 97 percent of children in elementary school graduate successfully despite the harsh conditions." However, the rate of students graduating from middle school is as low as 50 percent. They fail because middle schools are located farther away from home. In general, a bicycle is the most effective and convenient form of transportation in this area, since most of the local roads are not paved and closed frequently even by a small amount of rainfall. However, the price of a bicycle is about 12,000 rupees which is equivalent to the monthly salary of a public school teacher. In Kilinochchi, it is common for students to take after-school classes provided by their teacher. Binozyt wants to be a medical doctor and should take the classes. On her way back, she has to walk several kilometers in the dark. Binozyt says with her eyes twinkling, "With a bicycle, I could be a medical doctor." Bu Laksala has a dream to be an elementary school teacher and thus should go to middle school. With a bicycle, she would not be late for school, after taking her brothers there. Her father, who pants for breath, can ride the bicycle to sell mangoes in the market place, and her elder sister can also use it for work. A journalist asked Bu Laksala what is the most needed for her. After some hesitation, she said, "I need a bicycle. Not just for me, please help others as well." Even though I read this article in January, I am ashamed that I did not find actual ways to help them. Several weeks ago, I also read an article about 10-year-old Abinaya living in Sri Lanka. Film director Back Jong-Ryul donated his talent to the TV commercial "Two-Wheel Dream Road" for children needing a bicycle desperately. The article about his meeting with Abinaya, tells me that she needs a bicycle to go to school, in comparison to that of mine for fun or for a workout. Most infrastructure in the northern area of Sri Lanka was destroyed during the 26-year-long civil war. Abinaya has to walk for four hours to and from the school with her sister on her back. She says, "It is the happiest time for me to attend classes, because it is the only way to communicate with the outside world in a remote village with no TV or Internet connection." Bicycles are the only means to take her to school and to make it possible to carry drinking water. Furthermore, it gives children a motive to get out of their impoverished situation and have a new dream. The Dong-A Ilbo and the Green Umbrella Children's Foundation plan to provide bicycles for the children in Sri Lanka as well as in the African nations of Uganda and Senegal through a joint campaign; "Two-Wheel Dream Road." Since last November, 309 people have participated in the campaign to raise more than 100 million won for charity which is enough to buy 889 bicycles. For about two months, "Kajania," a theme park to give children's job experience established by Lotte Department Store, donated 12 million won to the Children's Foundation after exchanging children's donation in virtual "Kizo" money for cash. At the end of February, KBS announcer Kim Kyeung-ran who has been appointed as a goodwill ambassador of the Children's Foundation delivered 500 bicycles to Sri Lanka and 300 bicycles to Cambodia. This campaign will continue to provide bicycles for children around the world. The campaign plans to ship 500 more bicycles to Sri Lanka and to send another 200 bicycles to Uganda and Senegal. There are also new plans to ship bicycles to Cambodia, Ethiopia, Vietnam, and Indonesia. People can join the Two-Wheel Dream Road, by donating 120,000 won at once, a monthly payment of 10,000 won for a year, or a monthly payment of 30,000 won for both a bicycle and living expenses. We can happily take part in the Two-Wheel Dream Road, knowing that a child's life becomes much better with only a small donation. To sponsor a child call 1588-1940 or visit www.dreambike.or.kr. Lee is a sophomore at Seoul National University, majoring in biology and chemistry. |


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"The most likely scenario is that there is a cease-fire, hopefully brokered by the United States and Egypt, and then we all go back to exactly where we were before," says Reza Aslan, author of "No God but God," which looks at how the Arab Spring movement will ultimately play out.
"In a couple years, we start this process all over again. At a certain point, Israel is going to have to recognize that Hamas, whether it likes it or not, is the actual government in Gaza. And it's going to have to figure out a long-term solution to maintaining a viable ceasefire and that might include actually easing the blockade against Gaza," he told CNN on Monday.
According to Haaretz, Netanyhau, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman were updated on Monday by an Israel emissary who had just returned from a talk with Egyptian general intelligence officials.
"The deliberations centered on the demands made by Hamas and on the Egyptian proposals for compromise," according to the newspaper, quoting an Israeli official.
When asked by reporters what Israel wanted from Hamas, Oren said, "Guarantees against the return to the status quo."
Malka said Hamas could make a ground decision easy for Israel if it were to launch a "large wave of longer range rockets that hit the Tel Aviv area or a shorter range rocket that hits and causes a high number of civilian casualties."
The Palestinian territory has been under a crippling economic embargo since Hamas, a militant fundamentalist Islamic organization, took political control from the Palestinian Authority in a 2007 election.


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A juror wept Friday as James "Whitey" Bulger's former partner told a tragic tale of a slip of the lip and the ensuing result -- the strangling death of a 26-year-old woman, who was killed because she'd heard too much.
What made this recitation of deadly details different from the ones that preceded it during reputed mob boss Bulger's trial in federal court was that the victim had been the girlfriend of the witness.
"It's affected me and it's going to affect me until the day I die," Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi said in the first humanizing testimony the jury had heard in two days of recollections about multiple murders and extortions.
Flemmi was Bulger's No. 2 front man for nearly two decades, when prosecutors say Bulger reigned terror over Boston. Bulger is charged with 19 killings in a 32-count indictment that includes extortion, money laundering, and racketeering in addition to the deaths.
"He strangled her all the way down to the basement...when he got to the basement she was dead," Flemmi told the jury, referring to Bulger and Flemmi's girlfriend, Debra Davis.
A female juror covered her mouth and began shaking, wiping away tears while she repeatedly checked the time, as if longing for the testimony to end.
Prosecutors brought up the horrific murder of Davis in 1981 just 10 minutes before court ended Friday.
In his testimony, Flemmi said his much younger girlfriend became very upset when he left her birthday party abruptly to meet with Bulger. Flemmi said he "inadvertently blurted out" to Davis that he and Bulger were FBI informants.
"I bit my tongue and said we have a connection to John Connolly in the FBI and I got to leave," Flemmi said, referring to his and Bulger's rogue FBI informant-handler. Connolly is serving a 40 year sentence in Florida on murder charges connected to information he leaked to Bulger.
Bulger then said several times that "he wanted to kill her" because of what Davis then knew about the duo's relationship with Connolly, Flemmi testified.
"I said no, of course not," Flemmi continued. "And he (Bulger) explained a whole litany of reasons why John Connolly helped us... all of us and (said) 'You are jeopardizing that.'"
Flemmi, who testified earlier that Connolly had tipped them off to indictments, wire taps, and investigations, said it took him a while to come around but he eventually agreed to the slaying of Davis.
"I couldn't do it...(Bulger) knew it ... he said, 'I'll take care of it, I'll do it,'" Flemmi told the jurors as they listened intently.
Flemmi invited Davis to a house he had just bought for his parents, and when they walked in the front door, "He (Bulger) grabbed her by the throat and strangled her," Flemmi said.
Prosecting attornery Fred Wyshak asked: "What did you do?"
Flemmi: "Nothing."
Wyshak: "Why not?"
Flemmi: "That was the plan."
At that moment in court, Bulger -- whose attorneys made it very clear in opening statements that he does not want the death of women on his hands -- stared at his former partner for the first time all day. It was only for a few seconds before he turned his head back downward.
The two, who sparred with expletives at the end of court Thursday, virtually ignored each other Friday except for that one interlude.
"I wrapped her up and he (Bulger) went back upstairs" Flemmi went on.
Flemmi testified that he "cleaned up" and they proceeded to take Davis' body to an area near the Neponset river where they buried her in a shallow grave.
The remains of Debra Davis were excavated from a tidal marsh in late 2000. Most of her remains were discovered in plastic bags along with rope around the bags, a Massachusetts state forensic anthropologist testified last week.
Almost all of Davis' bones were recovered, according to Dr. Ann Marie Mires. Because her body was in bags, even some of her hair was preserved. The hair, along with pieces of bones, were tested for DNA and were positively identified as the remains of Davis, according to Mires.
Davis' brother, Steve Davis, has been a regular at trial since it began in June. He told reporters after court, "I've heard it before. It brings tears to my eyes but I learned how to deal and fight it, because I need to learn more about it, 'cause you don't know all it yet."


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November 29, 2011, 12:32 AM | #1 |
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$300 NRA life membership
The NRA sent me an offer to sign up Family and Friends for new life memberships for $300. (Expires January 15, 2012) You can call 877 NRA-2012 and use your credit card, I will not handle anybody's money. PM if you are interested and I'll send you my name and NRA #
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November 29, 2011, 01:24 AM | #2 |
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Dang. This offer comes out every year when I'm broke.
November 29, 2011, 01:27 AM | #3 |
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
"It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." -William Munny, Unforgiven |
November 29, 2011, 01:36 AM | #4 |
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What do you get?
November 29, 2011, 09:05 AM | #5 |
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I am definitely in the same club as Lincoln and 9mm, but maybe I'll start a pocket-change-jar for next year if they make the same offer again. I do plan to be a life-member soon as I can, but it's year to year for me so far.
November 29, 2011, 09:23 AM | #6 |
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been a lifer for about 20 years. no regrets.
November 29, 2011, 12:47 PM | #7 |
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I've been a lifer for 20+years, and the Wife got her life back in 2000 (full price back then). I've since upgraded mine to Endowment level.
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November 29, 2011, 01:20 PM | #8 |
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What the heck is endowment level? What benefits does it confer and how much is it?
"Blisters happen, calluses are earned." "What a shame that burns leave scars, but standing too close to a flame does not." Taxation WITH representation hasn't worked out too well, either. |
November 29, 2011, 03:54 PM | #9 |
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Ask me about the Liberal Gun Club and/or Olsen Training Group Bowers v. DeVito "...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered." P238 and AR Pistol owner |
November 29, 2011, 03:59 PM | #10 |
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How does the NRA get all the funds to do whatever it is that they do? Is it just from fundraisers?
If so, how does the NRA benefit by having members? I just became a member (year to year for now) a couple months ago, but to be totallly honest, I have no idea how the NRA benefits, and frankly, aside from having some peace of mind regarding gun rights, I have no clue how I benefit, either. I just signed up because it seemed like a good idea.
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November 29, 2011, 04:34 PM | #11 |
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To protect your gun rights, check out the 2nd Amendment Foundation or Gun Owners of America. NRA-ILA is there to protect the rights of their manufacturing 'partners'. Noth taht this is a bad thing, just be aware of where your money goes.
Keeping laws off the books federally to allow us to buy firearms is not a bad deal for us, either. I'm just willing to let the companies that benefit more than I do from NRA membership to pay for the NRA to lobby in their favor.
Ask me about the Liberal Gun Club and/or Olsen Training Group Bowers v. DeVito "...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered." P238 and AR Pistol owner |
November 29, 2011, 04:42 PM | #12 |
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Note to all: Do not EVER get to a point where you have "peace of mind regarding gun rights." EVER. There are too many out there who would love nothing more than to dump all our gun rights in the crapper.
Membership in ANY gun organization helps fight for our rights. NRA is one of many who are actively fighting to keep our right to keep and bear arms, both in the political and social arenas. Who do you think is lobbying every single day to keep restrictive gun bills tied up in committees where they usually die a quiet death? I don't think we would have the rights we still have without good grassroots organizations like the NRA and SAF. I realize some folks have an agenda with the NRA but it's still one of our best organizations out there. Yeah I wish they would do some things better, but all in all, they are our best bet. By the way I've been a lifer since 1967. One of the best purchases I ever made. I highly recommend it. I bought my son a life memebrship earlier this year, after they had closed the last offer period. All I did was call up membership and ask, and they gave him the $300 deal. |
November 29, 2011, 05:58 PM | #13 | |
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I'm guessing that membership fees and donations to the NRA keep the organization itself going structurally, while the NRA-ILA allocates money specifically to the lobbying and legal efforts. Right now one of our biggest enemies is complacency, as another poster mentioned. We have to keep "hammering away" until the broadest possible spectrum of our rights is restored, and then we need organizations like the NRA to continue to help fight off new attempts to restrict our rights.
"Blisters happen, calluses are earned." "What a shame that burns leave scars, but standing too close to a flame does not." Taxation WITH representation hasn't worked out too well, either. |
November 29, 2011, 08:40 PM | #14 | |
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Do you ever wonder why nobody ever robs the bag man for the mob? No, you don't. "Oh bother" said Pooh, as he chambered another round. Author unknown. |
November 29, 2011, 10:36 PM | #15 |
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Location: Texas
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I mean what does "he/she" get for people signing up under their member number?
The NRA sends a member a special to sign up people there has to be a catch.... |
November 29, 2011, 11:12 PM | #16 |
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The NRA is not perfect, but they carry a lot of weight, and rightly so. They get things done because they represent (last I knew) about 45 million members. However, that is (conservatively) only half of all gun owners. If gun owners showed NRA support in the same percentages as retirees do the (misguided) AARP, politicians would find something other than guns to be concerned with...for a long, long time.
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November 29, 2011, 11:18 PM | #17 |
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Remember JFK, "ask not what your organization can do for you, as what you can do for your organization", or something like that. I get very annoyed at people who don't join up and help the cause. I know, it's easier to find fault, cheaper too. But the NRA is our best weapon to influence government to honor the Constitution as it is written.
November 29, 2011, 11:25 PM | #18 |
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I wish one with good fortune could make a sponsorship/scholarship for life memberships. To apply and be considered you would have to pass certain criteria including need to support the 2nd and community service to make stronger ties.
November 30, 2011, 10:11 AM | #19 |
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November 30, 2011, 12:44 PM | #20 |
Join Date: January 30, 2010
Location: Texas
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I still have a legitimate question....
When a member of the NRA recieves and hands out a promotion like this does that member get anything in return when people sign up under his/her membership? My brother is a member but does not know. Can any other members answer this? |
November 30, 2011, 12:52 PM | #21 | |
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November 30, 2011, 01:53 PM | #22 |
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Thanks for the heads-up, this is just what I'm looking for. I appreciate the opportunity you've given those of us looking to join at such discounted price, and have already sent you a PM. This will be a great Christmas present to myself! |
November 30, 2011, 03:23 PM | #23 |
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Hrm dang, thanks springfield.
November 30, 2011, 04:55 PM | #24 | |
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The NRA has never offered ( or given ) me any gifts or any other swag for signing up new life members. In fact, after the 1st year, when I think we got a little of 80 people signed up, they asked that I cut back to about 20. One of the guys I sponsored for the membership surprised me with a Benchmade knife as a "thank you". That was really nice, but nothing fom the NRA. This offer is real. If you can swing the $300, go for it. Tuckerdog1
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November 30, 2011, 06:38 PM | #25 |
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Didn't the NRA give money to Harry Reid - that pillar of liberty?
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