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18 Questions from the Community
Where to get another artm for this mount?
I bought the Bretford desk mount, now I would like to get another arm to mount a cinema display next to my iMac, where can I get this?
- Asked by Tom W from Calgary
- Oct 1, 2013
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How is this mounted on a desk? Is it necessary to drill holes on the desk?
- Asked by Bumsoo H from Arlington
- Jan 28, 2010
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Best AnswerThe stand utilizes a mounting plate which requires five holes be drilled through the desktop. Four small holes at 9/32" and one large 5/8" hole.
- Answered by Junesoo Y from Milton
- Feb 11, 2010
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What is the approximate footprint for the desk mount?
I want to buy this mount for the new iMac with VESA integration, but I am wondering how large the base is (in terms of area). I have a rather small desk size and therefore don't have room for the standard iMac. It's a small piece of information that would help me determine where and if it could be mounted to my desk.
- Asked by Matthew P from Red Deer
- Jun 16, 2013
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How do you take the stand off of the display?
- Asked by Chris M from Pittsburgh
- Feb 17, 2010
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AnswerThe VESA adapter bracket comes with a tool and instructions on how to properly remove the stand.
- Answered by Richard L from Prescott
- Feb 22, 2010
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does this work the newer model iMac 2012/2013
- Asked by Junel D from Vallejo
- Mar 2, 2013
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AnswerYou need to order the VESA version of the iMac, you cannot use this with the 2012 model iMac that doesn't ship with the vesa mount rather than the desk stand.
- Answered by Neil M
- Apr 19, 2013
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Has anyone actually used this product with a 2010 24-inch LED Cinema Display?
They apparently supply a tool (is that correct?) that allows you to take off the original stand. But how easy is it to do? Thanks.
- Asked by John-paul M
- May 5, 2010
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AnswerIt should work
I watched the view on Bretford's website (or you tube cant remember) and its essentially a credit card type plastic card you push a metal pin in to release the stand so you can unscrew it, it is VERY easy from what it looks like- Answered by Barry H from Murray
- Dec 1, 2010
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does the versa mount come with the bretford mobilepro desk mount
- Asked by Allan M from Regina
- Mar 27, 2011
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AnswerNo, the VESA mount is not included.
- Answered by Jason J from Saddle River
- Apr 13, 2011
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Where is the mount for the Macbook?
Yesterday the images were showing the display and the MB Pro mounted on the stand. Today while placing the order I noticed that the laptop mount has disappeared from the image. Is it still part of the package? Or is it a separate order?
- Asked by Caspar W from San Mateo
- Jul 11, 2010
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AnswerYoure looking for this
Bretford MobilePro Desk Mount Combo- Answered by Barry H from Murray
- Dec 1, 2010
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How tall is the post?______ Can this be used with any VESA-compatible monitor?______
- Asked by F F from Vancouver
- Jun 6, 2010
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AnswerThe post is 20" in height plus about 1.5" for the plastic cap. The mounting plate on the arm is not threaded and therefore likely would accept many other standard vesa mounts. The arm is connected to the apple vesa mount which indicates use for other products would seem to be fine. The only caveat i would say is to stay within the limits of the weight limitation which apple indicates as 31 lbs.
- Answered by Troy H from Ottawa
- Jun 9, 2010
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Since the stand allows the monitor to be held in both portrait and landscape modes does the screen switch as in the iPod Touch or iPhone?
The description states that the computer can be rotated on the stand in portrait and landscape mode and i was wondering if this feature was for storage purposes or if there was an accelorometer (sorry if I spelled that wrong) in the computer that actually turns the screen as in the iPod Touch or iPhone.
- Asked by Miguel M from Albuquerque
- Feb 5, 2010
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AnswerApple Cinema Displays do not have built in accelerometers for automatic orientation detection. If you change the display's orientation, you just need to change the "Rotation" setting in the system's Display Preferences.
- Answered by Joseph C from San Francisco
- Aug 26, 2010
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Can I use it to support my iMac 27' and a LED Cinema display 27' together?
I'm not sure if it will support the weight of the iMac 27'and the LED 27' mounted on the same support at the same time... Thanks
- Asked by Fernando V from Florianópolis
- Nov 17, 2010
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Best Answerthe Bretford MobilePro Desk Mount Combo will support 2x 27" iMac so it will definetly support 1 27" iMac and your LED 27" display
- Answered by Barry H from Murray
- Dec 1, 2010
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the main vertical support — the Pole.
What is the height?
What is the width? If it differs front to back and side to side please provide both measurements
What is the diameter of the base plate that attaches to the bottom of the pole from beneath the table.
Thanks.- Asked by Brandon B from Bowen Island
- Apr 7, 2011
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is the Bretford mobilepro desk mount compatible with mac 27" LCD?
- Asked by Joe L from Addison
- Jul 12, 2011
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While it rotates 360 degrees & it pans 180 degrees I can figure out how tilts 90 degrees as mentioned in the description. Anyone have answer to that ?
- Asked by Ravindhra M from Thief River Falls
- Oct 8, 2012
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Can I have two screens mounted vertically, it is for radiological applications.
- Asked by Frederic D from Montreal
- Apr 15, 2010
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I have limited space on a roll-top desk. I hope the post does not have to be mounted to the desk next to the iMac as shown? And how high is the post?
- Asked by Joseph B from Alliance
- Mar 8, 2010
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AnswerHi There, I am about to install mine in about 1 hour.
I can tell you this; the post is 20" in height, which is about the height of my 24" Imac, (white version). I believe, the groves should point horizontally with the desk so in a spot comfortable to the user. I will mount the post into the top right of a wood desktop, mounting the articulating arm on the post grove that will point left. This will allow me to position the arm from centre to far right and out from there. There will be no left side of desk coverage. The instructions are not clear as to what is permit-able, The manual seems to suggest that the groves should not face toward or away from you at any time (the diagram seems to indicate so).- Answered by Troy H from Ottawa
- Jun 9, 2010
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Does this device compatible with 27 thunderbolt display?
Items states its compatible with 27 iMac and not clear if it is compatible with 27 thunderbolt.
- Asked by Rodolfo D from Gaithersburg
- Aug 28, 2012
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Does the 21.5 iMac work with it. And can it be mounted on a wall instead of a desk.
- Asked by Leslie C from Williston
- Jul 18, 2010
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Best AnswerThe 21.5" iMac is not compatible with any VESA mounting system.
- Answered by Travis H from Houston
- Oct 13, 2010
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Sunday, March 07, 2010
1 Corinthians 15:52
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
To deny the above is the entire job of the heathens and their consorts.
To believe it is the only job of the Christian.
The dignity of the body, as well as of the soul, separates us from Gnostics, and Buddhists, and Marxists, and all other faiths.
Each of us is made in the image of God. To think of some part -- whether skin color, or gender, as determinative, is a false idol. To separate people by class is itself a blasphemy. Any mark of distinction is not permanent. God is impartial, and we are to be impartial likewise. We accept each face as divine, even if it sees itself as an animal such as an armadillo or a caterpillar that does not know it will one day turn into a butterfly.
1st Cor 15:44: "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."
Walking on water, turning water into wine, making bread fall out of the sky: all of these are parlour tricks compared to the Resurrection, and the new body that shall result in our exaltation.
50 comments:
- G. M. Palmer said...
To believe it is the only job of the Christian.
No, Jesus tells us quite clearly to love each other and to change ourselves and follow Him. - Sunday, March 7, 2010 at 10:37:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
GM, does he really say, "Change yourself and be like me?"
Could you quote him saying this?
Because he also says to his followers when they ask whether they should separate the weeds out from the wheat, that they are not capable of doing this, which implies a permanent difference between us and him. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 9:40:00 AM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
At least, that is, on this side of the divide.
Stu says we have to be careful not to go Mormon in our understanding of the afterlife. Mormons apparently believe that after death each of us will get a universe even bigger and better than this one, and become our own God.
Most Christians however do not believe that to be so. We think there is only one God.
But after crossing, we will also be resurrected.
From there on the details are scanty. Aquinas says there will be new bodies, made entirely of light, but still recognizable. Midgets shall remain midgets, and Shaquille O'Neil will still be able to be dunk baskets.
But we will be made of a substance that is able to teleport itself, the way Christ could teleport himself.
I love that idea.
But it's a far cry from getting to be God yourself, in a bigger and better universe, as the Mormons apparently claim.
We're still going to be in God's universe, and there's still going to be only one God.
I don't know if we will have fingernails, or whether they will need to be clipped. Aquinas says we will have fingernails, but they won't need to be clipped. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 9:44:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
He calls us to metanoeo--the word that gets translated as repent but really means change your mind and your purpose. And you're changing my quote--he says to follow him.
Luke 13:5: I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
Mark 8:34-38: If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 9:48:00 AM EST
- Craig said...
Played golf with a Chinese guy yesterday. Said he was from Shanghai. Wanted to know where I'm from, how long I've been here and what I do for a living. Told him I'd planned to be an English professor, but when I went to take holy orders I must have passed out or maybe the floor gave out beneath me. Woke up on a slow boat to China.
- Monday, March 8, 2010 at 10:47:00 AM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
I know there is a huge discrepancy between GM's viewpoint and mine on this topic of how and whether we can be Christ-like, but I still say his viewpoint comes dangerously close to the Pelagian Heresy.
As for Craig, it sounds as if he'd been Shanghai'd. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 12:23:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
I'll freely admit I am a Pelagian. We are capable of correct behavior. We do choose to sin. We are criminals, not victims.
Jesus is our example for behavior on this world and in the next. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 1:23:00 PM EST
- W.B. Picklesworth said...
I'm all about the life change, the metanoia (Greek), the turning around (Hebrew), the denying oneself, the growing into the fullness of Christ.
But Pelagianism is something altogether different. It suggests an actual ability to climb to heaven by our own effort, with no help from grace, save for perhaps the grace of being created a human being.
G.M, is that what you actually subscribe to? - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 2:49:00 PM EST
- stu said...
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- Monday, March 8, 2010 at 3:16:00 PM EST
- stu said...
Wow, that was a rather large number of typographic errors, at least one of which changed the meaning. PEBKAC, as they say. Let me try again...
Gee, Kirby, was it just last week that you were flogging the Ten Commandments as the epitome of Western Civilization, Christianity, and all that you think is good in the world?
So today, you believe that it's o.k. to rob, rape, and murder, just so long as we believe that everyone gets a replacement body after they die? The desecrations we do to our bodies, or to other people's bodies, don't really matter, because these are ephemeral forms, and the incorruptible body we'll all receive is not profaned by what we do in the here-and-now?
I don't buy it.
In my opinion, the "job" of a Christian is to believe in God, in Jesus as the Son of God, in the promises they offer, and then to live our lives as people who are saved. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 6:48:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
The ten commandments are for the fallen, aren't they?
I mean, we are fallen, are we not?
Later on, we will be risen.
Right now, we are fallen. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 7:53:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
All regulations apply this side of the great divide.
I suppose I think GM is confusing the two kingdoms again, or in his denomination, they don't even have that separation.
Are you not completely depraved, GM?
This side of paradise our job is to stay inside of the ten commandments. Our reward is that we can then experience perfection, and teleportation, and other ludicrous stuff, on the other side.
Jesus did have a ludic side. He was enjoying turning water into wine and walking on water, and liked how it amazed the others. I'm not saying this was all for laughs, exclusively, but that there was an element of sly humor in the dude. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 7:58:00 PM EST
- stu said...
The ten commandments are for the fallen, aren't they?
No. The Law retains purpose: to restrain, condemn, and instruct. They remain guidelines as to how God wants us to live our life.
The Gospel does not supersede the Law. It is just that we as Lutherans understand that justification is not one of the purposes of the Law. We are not righteous because we follow the law, we are righteous through faith by grace. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 8:02:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
Perhaps I'm hobbled by Wikipedia but this is the opening paragraph about Pelagianism:
Pelagianism is a theological theory named after Pelagius (AD 354 – AD 420/440), although ironically he denied, at least at some point in his life, many of the doctrines associated with his name. It is the belief that original sin did not taint human nature and that mortal will is still capable of choosing good or evil without special Divine aid. Thus, Adam's sin was "to set a bad example" for his progeny, but his actions did not have the other consequences imputed to Original Sin. Pelagianism views the role of Jesus as "setting a good example" for the rest of humanity (thus counteracting Adam's bad example) as well as providing an atonement for our sins. In short, humanity has full control, and thus full responsibility, for obeying the Gospel in addition to full responsibility for every sin (the latter insisted upon by both proponents and opponents of Pelagianism). According to Pelagian doctrine, because men are sinners by choice, they are therefore criminals who need the atonement of Jesus Christ. Sinners are not victims, they are criminals who need pardon.
I don't find much to argue with there.
And Kirby, yes, I'm a sinner--I'm the bad guy--because I give in to temptation--like we all do. But I give in. By choice. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 8:03:00 PM EST
- stu said...
I think that GM's profession of Pelagianism is somewhat misguided, so let me try to sort this out.
We as Christians take something of a head's God wins, tails we lose attitude w.r.t. sin. If we sin, it is entirely our fault, but if we don't, it is entirely to God's credit. This bends our sense of logic and justice, but there it is.
When GM says that he's a Pelagian, I don't think he's taking credit for being good (the specific hubris that Kirby rightly objects to), instead he is professing that whatever sins he's committed are his responsibility alone (a sentiment that I expect Kirby would agree with). - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 8:06:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
GM, Remember what St. Paul writes in Romans, when he asks (can't remember the precise passage, or exactly what he says) -- why do I do exactly what I don't want to do, and don't do exactly what I have said I will do? What the f. is the matter with me?
The answer is original sin.
The deck is stacked, so I think the thing is that that's the reason that we have to ask for forgiveness.
Stu has an extra wrinkle on this score where he thinks that through grace we can attain perfection.
This is the whole discrepancy or what Lyotard would call, the differend, between the Missouri and the ELCA.
ELCA thinks we can attain perfection this side of the grave, and that we are not totally demented almost all of the time, and they also to some degree believe that our reason can comprehend our state.
Missouri is more surrealistic and pessimistic -- that the ID -- the monstrous sin in the heart of the universe driven by satan is much more powerful than we think. Satan is always with us.
I think for whatever reason the ELCA thinks Satan was some kind of historical entity.
Missouri says we are 98% Satan, and every time we look in a mirror, we see this -- shadow figure.
At the same time we are made in God's image.
It's hard for me to reconcile these two images.
Somehow they have something to do with two kingdoms. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 8:13:00 PM EST
- stu said...
Stu has an extra wrinkle on this score where he thinks that through grace we can attain perfection.
No, I do not believe this. I believe that we are justified by faith through grace—the quintessential summary of the Lutheran theological position. Justified does not equal perfect. God knows, in both the literal and idiomatic senses, that we are not perfect, and that we will never be perfect.
ELCA thinks we can attain perfection this side of the grave
This is simply incorrect. Did you believe this when the church to which you now belong was a part of the ELCA? Of course not. - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 8:38:00 PM EST
- jep said...
Kirby - you said it better than most contemporary theologians.
Almost every heresy involves a denigration of creation and a denial of the resurrection of the body - not only Jesus' but ours.
Kudos! - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 9:31:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
Original sin is about as useful as "devils"--lame excuses for our bad behavior.
- Monday, March 8, 2010 at 10:04:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
Here's my input: (the song, not the accompanying slide show really...would have used a live version or just the sound if I coulda found it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-qspVM8eI - Monday, March 8, 2010 at 10:09:00 PM EST
- Craig said...
It's called the power of negative thinking. You see the water hazard next to the green and tell yourself don't pull it, don't hook it, because if you go left you're sure to have a (penalty) stroke. But when you think that thought you start visualizing the shot and it's got an emotional charge to it. You have to overcome that negative thought with a positive thought and consciously will yourself to visualize a high fade that will land on the green about halfway between the flag and the bunker on the right. And you have to will it intensely enough to dissipate the negative, involuntary, unconscious, fear inspired energy.
- Monday, March 8, 2010 at 11:14:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
In case I wasn't specific:
When GM says that he's a Pelagian, I don't think he's taking credit for being good (the specific hubris that Kirby rightly objects to), instead he is professing that whatever sins he's committed are his responsibility alone (a sentiment that I expect Kirby would agree with).
Missouri says we are 98% Satan, and every time we look in a mirror, we see this -- shadow figure.
At the same time we are made in God's image.
Please find in the Bible where it says the first conjecture. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 8:11:00 AM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
Luke 23:34 is fairly clear, I think, when Jesus asks God to forgive the soldiers who are shooting dice to see who gets his clothes.
Luther has a long letter of preface to Romans where he talks about how we are spiritual morons, and yet we have to love each other nevertheless.
We cannot do the law by willing it. The only way is to believe entirely in Christ, and this in some sense opens the heart. But I don't think it ever does this permanently. It's a permanent struggle.
This letter of Luther's is rather long, but it's a fairly good intro to Lutheran thought. I think he says it quite clearly: if you are following the word of the lord to the letter, but your heart isn't in it, if you are still a thief and an adulterer and a killer, then vot's der use:
http://www.ccel.org/l/luther/romans/pref_romans.html - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 9:10:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
I ask for the Bible telling us we are 98% Satan and you give me Jesus forgiving the world for its ignorance and Luther.
Luther != the Bible. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 10:22:00 AM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
Well, I don't think the Bible verses speak in terms of percentages.
Calvin and Luther used phrases like "total depravity" in reference to humanity.
How else do we explain the Roman soldiers gambling for the clothes of a man who is being crucified?
And I did give you Romans, as read by Luther. Luther is a genius. I'm a fumbler, and a bumbler, doing my best. Read Luther, please. It's only five pages or so, but the prose is lightning and thunder.
You don't have to, but if you want to understand the viewpoint, and you did read it, you would then understand.
Then of course you should roll out the best texts of your particular tradition, and share and share alike, dudeson.
I don't know if 98% is correct. Luther himself never talks percentages. He and Calvin seemed to agree that there was SOMETHING left from the fall, something that they called "common grace." This refers to the sprinkling of decency inside every human being.
One of the Roman soldiers who was impressed by Christ on the cross, really did believe that he was a great religious figure -- possibly God, right?
These inklings, or intuitions, are possible even for the likes of Ceausescu. Even for St. Paul, who had persecuted Christians.
Even for the likes of me.
You can't count on it, of course. People do have a worse than animal aspect. What other animal writes pornography?
What other mammal aborts its children?
What other animal is so perverse?
We're a weird bunch, a very dark and compact creature, fraught with sin. But there is nevertheless that ray of hope, that can sometimes open the hardest heart.
A song like "Amazing Grace" is about that strange moment.
It's as if a plant has grown up through cement.
What is the cement if not Satan? How do YOU explain it?
I explain it in terms of percentages partially because I find it funny. You get "total depravity" and yet "common grace."
Doesn't "total" mean 100%?
OK, then perhaps we should use the 2% figure for "common grace"?
At once we seem to be made in the image of God, and yet, to be completely lost and dark.
I think this is a paradox that can't be solved with a simple equation. We are always already both, for reasons that are beyond me, but which the Biblical stories are the best analogue, and Luther, to my mind, the clearest interpreter. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 10:39:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
if you are following the word of the lord to the letter, but your heart isn't in it, if you are still a thief and an adulterer and a killer, then vot's der use:
Kirby, that's stupid.
If you are following the Word of Jesus to the letter 1) you won't be a thief, adulterer, or killer and moreover 2) you can't do it if your heart's not in it. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 11:25:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
Kirby--do you not see the inherent danger in what Luther writes?
Let's look at two quotes:
This letter is truly the most important piece in the New Testament. It is purest Gospel.
Oh really? Why does he get to make that judgement?
One would think the most important piece of the New Testament would be the part that Jesus said was the most important: loving God and loving your neighbor.
Let's continue:
To begin with, we have to become familiar with the vocabulary of the letter and know what St. Paul means by the words law, sin, grace, faith, justice, flesh, spirit, etc. Otherwise there is no use in reading it.
You must not understand the word law here in human fashion, i.e., a regulation about what sort of works must be done or must not be done.
Oh? Does Paul use some other word?
Hm, perhaps it is the translation from the Greek that is the problem. That could certainly be true. Perhaps that's why the Greek Orthodox Church (you know, the ones who can actually read the oldest extant documents natively) don't truck with the silly notion of original sin.
Moreover, here we have Luther saying: Paul is Great! But let me tell you what Paul means. Luther is imposing his vision on Paul. No good, that. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 11:45:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
And how can you miss this gem, Kirby?
Works are important, as Luther says:
Faith is a work of God in us, which changes us and brings us to birth anew from God (cf. John 1). It kills the old Adam, makes us completely different people in heart, mind, senses, and all our powers, and brings the Holy Spirit with it. What a living, creative, active powerful thing is faith! It is impossible that faith ever stop doing good. Faith doesn't ask whether good works are to be done, but, before it is asked, it has done them. It is always active. Whoever doesn't do such works is without faith
So if you have faith your faith will be shown in your good works. And look at that last sentence:
Whoever doesn't do such works is without faith.
! - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 11:53:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
What I say to the question regarding cement:
"Original sin" is not something related to being human--it is something related to being among fallen humans. If we were all raised by a family of Jesus Christs, living on a world of Jesus Christs, with nothing not created by a Jesus Christ we would never learn sinful behavior.
Perhaps we would still choose to be selfish. Perhaps not. But it is important to note that the notion of sin--that is, disobedience--comes from the clever serpent (NOT Satan, mind you--find me where it says that in the Bible): in other words, the notion to sin comes from an outward influence that appeals to our desires.
Were we God, our desires would be perfect--but since we are but a small fraction of God, we cannot see the entire picture--and therefore our desire is incomplete. When we align our desire with that of God (as instructed in teh Bible) we behave in a righteous manner. When we follow our own desire we sin. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 11:58:00 AM EST
- W.B. Picklesworth said...
'Original sin is about as useful as "devils"--lame excuses for our bad behavior.'
This strikes me as a bit of a broad brush stroke. By the person seeking to justify himself and avoid responsibility, they are certainly convenient excuses. But if being used by a sinner invalidates a concept, then we'd be living in a concept-poor world.
Rather, I'd say that original sin seeks to explain what "is." "Why is this world so broken?" When someone seeks to use this as an excuse for doing whatever they'd like, they're no longer interested in "why," but in "how," that is, "how can I get away with my behavior?" So long as that is your question, the answer is, "You can't. You are royally screwed, you selfish pig."
As for devils (demons), they get used as excuses too, but the N.T. certainly witnesses to their reality. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 12:09:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
Uhhhh. Kirby.
Lots of other Mammals rape, murder, and kill their own (and others) young. Dolphins, dogs, apes, to name a few...
They prostitute themselves. If they had the artistic skills, I'm sure they would make porn.
The difference is that as humans we have knowledge of good and evil. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 12:31:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
The difference is that as humans we have knowledge of good and evil.
Almost--the difference is that we have been given rules to follow. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 12:48:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
When it comes to topics like these, I find myself torn...
On the one hand, these sorts of theoretical, high-faluten discussions remind me of the theory-centric humanities crowd that focuses on babbling about theory all the time instead of just creating good works of art.
So one person says original sin passes down throughout the generations in a tainted way that means you're born with sin and therefore you need to be cleansed with baptism right away in case you die so that you don't blahblahblah, another says original sin is just the idea of what happened to make us fallen and we are in a state in which we have the ability to make choices and personally are not born with the taint of original sin blahblahblah.
And then there are those people who just live good lives and feed the hungry and love their neighbor and say 'so what' about your theory-centric theological discussions, the way Dylan makes good art and eschews theory.
Wouldn't we rather be Dylan over any number of anonymous theory-minded profs who ain't done much a lick of making nothin' good?
But on the other hand, there may be a real link between our beliefs about such theoretical concepts as original sin and the way we choose to live our lives, eh? And it's also just plain fun to talk about sometimes, too...
But the purpose of art should be to create and communicate something more substantive and beautiful than adherence to a certain theory, right?
And the purpose of life is to create and do something more substantive and beautiful than the adherence to a certain abstract theory, right?
I know I'm being a bit unclear with the analogy...I'll try some more:
I've often found that theory can be useful when used to analyze and discuss literature, but can be counter-productive when used as a focus during the creation of literature.
Perhaps there's an analogy between this and life:
That 'theory' (the sorts of theological specifics about the nature of the body and original sin that this thread is about) can be useful when analyzing life,
but can be counter-productive as a focus during the process of living/choosing how to live...
Am I onto something/makin' sense? Or just hilting at swillmills... - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 2:35:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
GM -- if the rules are too strict they turn us all into outlaws. We cannot be saints.
It's not humanly possible to be a saint, at least not for 99.9% of us.
So Luther loosened the laws so that we could manage them, and stay reasonably inside of the laws, and inside of the notion of God's acceptance. If laws are so pinchy that no one can get into them (like Cinderella's shoes for her ugmo half-sisters), then we all feel bad.
We are entitled to feel that if we stay within the ten commendables and go to church, that it is enough. Then, if we do more, that's very very nice of us.
But we don't have to fly to Haiti and hand-feed other people's starving children. Anyone who does do that is entitled to feel quite good about themselves, as long as they continue to respect local laws, and all other rules and regulations that might apply.
Luther had a practical side. If the law is too pinchy and demands of us that we be saints, it turns 99.9% of us against the law, and turns us into de facto as well as de jure criminals.
Pinchy laws can make us into a nation of outlaws.
Luther rightly recognized that very few can act like Jesus.
In fact only one person can.
Jesus himself.
For the rest of us even to attempt that is probably Pelagian hubris.
You don't act perfectly around here, GM.
None of us do.
We all like to throw a sharp elbow, and are not exactly full of charity toward people we perceive as our political other. None of us are exactly love and light, right?
At least not 99.9% of the time.
If we are about 2% of the time, then that's pretty good, and that's why I say we are divided into approximately 2% decency, and about 98% total depravity.
And this is a good group of relatively good people (no Mansons, either Marilyn or Charlies, at least none that I know of).
As for Brett, his point was too theoretical. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 5:01:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
Well played sir!
- Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 6:32:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
So Luther loosened the laws so that we could manage them, and stay reasonably inside of the laws, and inside of the notion of God's acceptance.
So you're saying Lutheranism is heresy. That's cool. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 7:13:00 PM EST
- Craig said...
That's why we ought to go with Gower and his sins against Venus. Chaucer's all class warfare all the time, a Marxist conspiracy if ever I saw one.
- Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 8:09:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
Law comes out of Lutheranism to a very great extent. The lawless tendencies of both the far right and the far left seem to come out of a utopian Christian impulse -- which Luther had already seen in the senseless shattering of Marionite imagery in cathedrals.
Remember what Christ said, My kingdom is NOT of this world.
This is a kingdom of the fallen, and therefore, of law.
And the law has to be reasonable, and has to be capable of being kept. - Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 11:23:00 PM EST
- W.B. Picklesworth said...
Luther didn't loosen up the law. He noticed what the Bible actually says. People become enamored with the law and bring death on themselves because they think they can keep it. Paul does not argue that you can keep it. James does not argue that you can keep it. Rhetorically, Jesus talks about keeping it, but then he goes and breaks it (Sabbath) just to make a point.
I find myself agreeing with Stu who said some very sensible things earlier in the thread.
I'm not interested in keeping the law, which is, after all, just a bare minimum. I'm interested in following Christ. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 1:32:00 AM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
If everyone could attain the bare minimum the world would be a lot better. If everyone were a saint we wouldn't even have a need for the law. But the existence of the law is proof to some extent that we need it.
Many people want to get rid of the law and insist that we can all be saints. This leads to saintly gunplay, along the lines of Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson's vigilantes of the 70s.
It is curious to me how the 60s led into the 70s. The 60s were an anarchist phase in which the law was abrogated. The 70s showed a ruder edge as Woodstock became Altamont.
They decided to make Hell's Angels into the police.
I don't think we can count on angels. They didn't save the children in the Coliseum under Tiberius.
We now have laws protecting children.
But again, many people want us to get rid of those laws that protect children.
Somehow when people think that they can be saints they become a lot more like Charles Manson.
Or the Beats.
I am therefore interested in promulgating the law, and giving police officers their due. The closest thing to a saint is a good police officer who is capable of following the law and also administering it.
I would hope that a good police officer wouldn't say to a person who had just robbed a bank. "Go, and rob no more."
They would instead book the perp, and testify at the trial. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 9:17:00 AM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
I'm not interested in keeping the law, which is, after all, just a bare minimum. I'm interested in following Christ.
Yes, thank you. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 9:26:00 AM EST
- Brett said...
I think there's a separation here - we, Personally, should be focused on 'following Christ' (and doing so, we will obviously be within the bounds of legality unless there is a major moral problem with the laws of the country in which we live...)
What exactly it means to follow Christ within certain situations is a matter for debate/personal reflection...
But how this personal belief and mode of behavior affects our view of how the government, or society, should be structured, I think, is a different question, and the one that Kirby tends to focus on, and where our biggest disagreements on this blog actual exist?
Or is Kirby really just a self-centered, heretical prick and I'm tryin' to cover for him...
(while Kirby is rightly critical of the self-righteous, this does not change the fact that we are told to follow Christ toward righteousness - Being broken does not mean we shouldn't follow the Jesus.) - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 12:42:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
It gets scary. Let me offer you a hypothetical. You're driving with two of your small kids on a highway when you spot a tramp walking on the side of the road in a very desolate stretch, thumbing a lift?
Do you pick him up?
I say NO WAY.
Jesus would pick him up.
Would you?
The notion of following Christ too closely can get you killed. Follow the law, and stay within it, sure.
But don't pick up strangers with your kids in the car, people.
This doesn't mean you have to run the bum over.
It might mean you place a 911 call to have an OFFICER get the bum and slap him into jail where he could at least get a cup of soup and a pillow.
At any rate, that's my hypothetical. What say you? - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 2:33:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
There may be a difference between 'following Jesus' and 'doing exactly what Jesus would do.'
Right? - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 5:53:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
Another hypothetical: two bank robbers come busting out of a bank, machine gun flaring and blowing a 180 degree arc to clear a path of retreat. You're a police officer with a flak jacket and a sniper rifle, and are on top of an adjacent building. Do you take out the bank robbers before they injure other citizens, or do you bless them?
I can't believe that Jesus would fire the head shots required to stop the mayhem.
As a police officer, however, and as one who is charged with maintaining the peace, you finish the scum off, right? - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 6:45:00 PM EST
- Brett said...
A) I repeat:
"There may be a difference between 'following Jesus' and 'doing exactly what Jesus would do.'
And no, Jesus would not fire the shots...he would wave his magic I'm-the-son-of-God-and-can-do-crazy-stuff-(like create infinite booze)-wand, and he'd turn the guns into squeaky toys, or maybe fish.
But I think he'd want bystanders to protect themselves (unless they were trained/somehow had the capacity/angle to immobilize the attackers), bystanders with children to protect their kids, and those trained and with the means to immobilize the attackers in a humane a way as possible (which might mean death).
He wouldn't want us to throw kids at the attackers, or cower away from an opportunity to immobilize the attackers if possible and reasonable, and he wouldn't want us to cheer on the attackers. He also wouldn't want us to Be the attackers.
What would Jesus do if he died? He'd rise from the grave in about three days - I don't think that's what I'll be able to do.
Also, if Jesus were at a party, and they ran out of some good New Belgium beer, he'd just make a lot more of it (#1). The rest of us would either have to go buy more good beer, or switch to the crappy vodka that one sorority girl brought and mix it with tonic and lemon, or be tipsy enough to stomach some flat Keystone Ice (#2)...Others might rob a liquor store or steal some from the next door neighbor (#3).
So #1 is what Jesus would do.
#2 is what he would want us to do.
#3 is what someone who doesn't follow Jesus might do. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 7:28:00 PM EST
- Curtis Faville said...
Reading the Bible is like sitting inside a gyroscope.
You're spinning in place, and the inertia of your reflexive meditation makes you feel like you're going somewhere, like you have your correct bearings. But you're just spinning. Reality is like another dimension for you. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 8:06:00 PM EST
- Kirby Olson said...
Curtis, I assume you are speaking for yourself?
- Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 8:10:00 PM EST
- G. M. Palmer said...
I think Brett, he would want the bystanders (especially the ones w/o kids) to go stop the attackers. Maybe they don't have a sniper rifle, but they can embrace them.
Most bank robbers don't have automatic weapons and the ones they might have are not terribly accurate. Three or five onrushing bystanders embracing the thugs would stop them in their tracks.
Perhaps this is what someone should have done with that Asian fellow at VT. Instead of running and cowering they should have embraced him. - Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:35:00 PM EST
- W.B. Picklesworth said...
How did Jesus apply the law? What were his expectations for people?
Well, for those who thought that they were righteous enough to follow it, he made the law even more burdensome than they had imagined (see rich young man.) For those who knew full well their weakness and need, he made the law surprisingly malleable and easy.
It seems as if there is a certain, "in the moment" quality to the law. Reacting to gunmen and hitchhikers is not a "one size all" situation, unless you want to make it one. - Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 10:16:00 AM EST


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One day, Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know.' Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter." --Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Lewis Carroll's famous quote offers a bit of wisdom that is both timely and relevant for those of us trying to make sense of the current business operating environment and achieve sustained growth. To say that the present environment is one characterized by VUCA -- Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, and Ambiguity -- understates the sense of angst both business leaders and their employees are feeling, and with good reason.
Several factors contribute to a sense of anxiety and worry in the market. The coming presidential election typically creates uncertainty and a slowing down of federal procurement actions as agencies wait out possible changes in their leadership teams; the possibility of sequestration and the attendant confusion it is anticipated to create remains on the horizon; smaller federal budgets regardless of the election outcome are seemingly a certainty for the foreseeable future. So then, what's a CEO and business to do?
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The staff at the T.B. Scott Free Library are preparing for what just might be the best day of the year and we're not talking about Christmas. Next Wednesday is Aaron Rodgers Day, falling on the date 12-12-12. In honor of Green Bay's star quarterback, the Merrill library is turning it's annual crafting party green and gold.
"Many of us are big Packer fans. So when we heard the legislature declared 12-12-12 to be Aaron Rodgers Day, the Youth Services staff picked up on that and decided to combine it with our craft celebration," head of Youth Services at the T.B. Scott Free Library, Linda Schuster, told NewsChannel 7.
Cheesehead headbands, green and gold mittens and football ornaments are just some of the crafts people can look forward too. And you don't have to be a kid, or even a Packer fan, to get involved.
"We'd love you to wear green and gold when you come to our celebration. But, if you're not a Packer fan, you're still welcome," Schuster said.
The crafting tables will be open all weekend long during the library's regular operating hours.
In addition to crafting, the library will also host a scavenger hunt for third through fifth graders this Friday from 3:30pm until 4:45pm. Kids favorite green and gold storybook characters, like Shrek and Goldilocks, will be on hand to help them solve the mystery of who stole the Cheesehead.
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- Brennan, K., and Resnick, M. (2012). New Frameworks for Studying and Assessing the Development of Computational Thinking. Proceedings of the American Educational Research Association (AERA) annual conference.
- Resnick, M. (2012). Mother's Day, Warrior Cats, and Digital Fluency: Stories from the Scratch Online Community. Proceedings of the Constructionism 2012 conference. Athens, Greece.
- Monroy-Hernández, A., Hill, B.M., Gonzalez-Rivero, J., boyd, d. (2011). Computers can't give credit: How automatic attribution falls short in an online remixing community. ACM Conference on Human Factors on Human Factors in Computer Systems (CHI '11),
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- Maloney, J., Resnick, M., Rusk, N., Silverman, B., Eastmond, E. (2010). The Scratch Programming Language and Environment. ACM Transactions on Computing Education, November 2010.
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- Resnick, M., Maloney, J., Monroy-Hernández, A., Rusk, N., Eastmond, E., Brennan, K., Millner, A., Rosenbaum, E., Silver, J., Silverman, B., Kafai, Y. (2009). Scratch: Programming for All. Communications of the ACM, November 2009.
- Brennan, K. (2009). Scratch-Ed: An online community for Scratch educators. CSCL'09 conference proceedings.
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Scratch: Creating and sharing interactive media. In Proceedings of the 9th international conference on Computer supported collaborative learning - Volume 2 (CSCL'09) - Aragon, C. R., Poon, S. S., Monroy-Hernández, A., Aragon, D. A tale of two online communities: fostering collaboration and creativity in scientists and children. In Proceeding of the seventh ACM conference on Creativity and cognition (C&C '09). ACM, New York, NY, USA, 9-18.
- Monroy-Hernández, A. (2009) Designing a website for creative learning. In: Proceedings of the Web Science 09: Society On-Line, 18-20 March 2009, Athens, Greece.
- Kafai, Y., Desai, S., Peppler, K., Chiu, G. & Moya, J. (2008). Mentoring Partnerships in a Community Technology Center: A Constructionist Approach for Fostering Equitable Service Learning. Mentoring and Mentorship. [For a copy, please contact Professor Kafai]
- Monroy-Hernández, A. and Resnick, M. (2008). Empowering kids to create and share programmable media. interactions 15, 2 (March 2008), 50-53.
- Maloney, J., Peppler, K., Kafai, Y., Resnick, M., and Rusk, N. (2008). Programming by Choice: Urban Youth Learning Programming with Scratch.
- Monroy-Hernández, A. (2007) ScratchR: sharing user-generated programmable media. In Proceedings of the 6th international conference on Interaction design and children (IDC '07). ACM, New York, NY, USA, 167-168.
- Kafai, Y.B., Peppler, K.A., & Chiu, G. (2007). High Tech Programmers in Low Income Communities: Creating a Computer Culture in a Community Technology Center. In C. Steinfeld, B. Pentland, M. Ackermann, & N. Contractor (Eds.), Proceedings of the Third International Conference on Communities and Technology (pp. 545-562). New York: Springer.
- Peppler, K. A. & Kafai, Y. B. (2007). What video game making can teach us about learning and literacy: Alternative pathways into participatory cultures. Paper to be presented at the Digital International Games Research Association meeting in Tokyo, Japan.
- Peppler, K. & Kafai, Y. B. (2007). From SuperGoo to Scratch: Exploring Media Creative Production in an Informal Learning Environment. Journal on Learning, Media, and Technology, 32(2), 149-166. [For a copy, please contact Professor Kafai]
- Peppler, K. & Kafai, Y. B. (2007). Collaboration, Computation, and Creativity: Media Arts Practices in Urban Youth Culture. In C. Hmelo- Silver & A. O'Donnell (Eds.), Proceedings of the Conference on Computer Supported Collaborative Learning, New Brunswick, NJ.
- Resnick, M. (2007). All I Really Need to Know (About Creative Thinking) I Learned (By Studying How Children Learn) in Kindergarten. Proceedings of the SIGCHI Conference on Creativity and Cognition, Washington, D.C.
- Resnick, M. (2007). Sowing the Seeds for a More Creative Society. Learning and Leading with Technology.
- Resnick, M., Maloney, J., & Rusk, N. (2006). Scratch and technological fluency (Powerpoint slide 2.5MB).
- Peppler, K., & Kafai, Y. (2005). Creative coding: The role of art and programming in the K-12 educational context.
- Resnick, M., and Silverman, B. (2005). Some Reflections on Designing Construction Kits for Kids. Proceedings of Interaction Design and Children conference, Boulder, CO.
- Maloney, J., Burd, L., Kafai, Y., Rusk, N., Silverman, B., and Resnick, M. (2004). Scratch: A Sneak Preview. Second International Conference on Creating, Connecting, and Collaborating through Computing. Kyoto, Japan, pp. 104-109.
- Resnick, M., Kafai, Y., Maeda, J. (2003). A Networked, Media-Rich Programming Environment to Enhance Technological Fluency at After-School Centers in Economically-Disadvantaged Communities. Proposal to National Science Foundation.


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They said the man left the store with a bag containing about 30 bottles of medication valued at more than $7,000. He left in a black, older-model Honda Civic, police said in a release.
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@DukeW "Sometimes, you wonder if the old saw about no good deed going unpunished isn't somewhat true." Of course it's true. I have personal experience with that. You do a favor for someone once, and that person will expect it as a right forever after.
@ Zunair
"Is there any kind of law that protects the individuals from being harassed online?"
Not sure. Even if there isnt a separate law, the online harrassment actions will come under the ambit of harrassment through mail or other communication methods. Also, the good part about online messages on social media and mails are that they are there on record forever and the defendant cannot revert from his statement.
Did we all see the picture that the IDF released of a Hamas missile site squeezed in between a hospital and orphanage, with people's houses on either side? Against this, we see "you have opened the gates of Hell." Nicely played, boys
It sounds somethig like a dialog with an extremely childish or stupid person "- you know, I think , what you are doing is wrong.-Yeeh???? So..so..so, you are also stupid".
Don't these guys have any chance to realize how they look like?If they want, the whole world thinks , that they are just victims of bloody Israel and all they want is just a piece on Earth, they need to try much better.
You are absolutely correct. Israel learned well from their last trip down this road, when the "other side" used social media outlets to vilify and tell outright lies. This time, they were ready, and I've seen multiple posts re-tweeted of "we said/they said" combos. You might think the example chosen by Jason was unusual, with the 'these are the facts' versus 'this is our rhetoric' flavor, but you would be wrong. This is the way it's being played, and frankly, Hamas looks pretty lame in comparison. Did we all see the picture that the IDF released of a Hamas missile site squeezed in between a hospital and orphanage, with people's houses on either side? Against this, we see "you have opened the gates of Hell." Nicely played, boys. Add in all the organizations that are re-tweeting and reposting as they "stand with Israel," and you begin to see that they fully understand the power and use of social media in shaping public opinion. I only hope the U.S. government is paying attention, as I'm tired of hearing the "Death to America" nonsense on the Internet that we invented and gave to the world as a happy gift. Sometimes, you wonder if the old saw about no good deed going unpunished isn't somewhat true.
With regards to social media, governments are just like businesses. If people decide to use social media to communicate about you - your only decision is whether you respond or don't respond. You have little chance (though some authoritarian countries try) to make the news/tweets go away.
Governments can evolve, or fail to evolve - and it usually ends badly for those that fail to evolve.
Maybe the US hasnt been using social networks to communicate very well but I'm sure its in the top-tier of countries that analyze and keep an eye on those networks.
Well yes the anonymous threat crew! Do people really pay heed to anonymous threats on social networks?
Is there any kind of law that protects the individuals from being harassed online?
Though much advancement has been made in the recent years, the online arena still has barely been scratched when it comes to utilizing its use I believe. on the subject of outsourcing the content management of various government outlets social media accounts, wouldn't that cause content to be severely toned down as far as its relevance is concerned, for fear of handing over something that could potentially hurt these outlets?
@ kicheko
"however if this messages were going across warring countries, i guess nobody could control it."
Except the Twitter's management, isnt it ?
Twitter has become a platform for holding political wars unlike facebook and G+ because of the ability of the forum to make the comments visible to all. You just have to follow.


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Vince Young thinks he can help Fitzgerald, Cardinals
Sunday, they lost by a franchise-high 58 points to the Seattle Seahawks.
So how bad has it gotten for the Redbirds in 2012?
Even Vince Young -- who has been out of the league since August after being cut by the Bills -- feels bad for the Cardinals.
His solution for Larry Fitzgerald and Co. after their historic loss: let him get in the ear of Ken Whisenhunt.
The Cardinals' quarterback carousel has been well-documented throughout the season, and may have reached a low point Sunday, as John Skelton threw a career-high four interceptions and lost one fumble.
Rookie Ryan Lindley wasn't much better, as he lost one fumble and completed just 8-of-17 passes.
This isn't the first time Young has been connected with the Cardinals in some shape or form this season.
Following Kevin Kolb's injury back in Week 6, it was reported the team was interested in bringing Young in for a mid-week tryout. However, Young has yet to be given a tryout by any NFL team since training camp ended.
For his career, Young has thrown for 8,964 yards and 46 touchdowns, while also running for 1,459 yards and 12 touchdowns.
In 2011, the former No. 3 overall pick threw for 866 yards, four touchdowns and nine interceptions in six games as a backup to Michael Vick in Philadelphia.
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- Ron Jaworski, ESPN NFL Analyst - Thursday December 12The Cardinals are in the playoff race.
- Steve Tasker, NFL Analyst - Wednesday December 11Tasker discusses Carson Palmer, Tyrann Mathieu and what's going on with the Redskins.
- John Abraham, AZ Cardinals - Monday December 9Abraham discusses his outstanding game, his record career and how long he plans to play.
- Steve Keim, AZ Cardinals GM - Monday December 9The Cardinals get a huge division win, but lose a huge piece to their defense.
- Wolf's NFL 5 Star Games - Week 14 - Friday December 6The must-see NFL games of the weekend.