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DALTON -- Tyrell Thomas picked a great time to score his first high school football touchdown.
Trailing 16-6 with all the momentum in the Berkshire County title game leaning Wahconah's way, Mount Greylock needed a big play. Thomas took care of it when he fielded a kickoff at his own 35 and took it all the way to the Warriors' end zone. The tally brought the Mounties within two points of the Warriors and swung the momentum the other direction. Greylock was able to build off that momentum to take a lead and win its third straight Berkshire County championship, 22-16 over Wahconah.
"That was huge for us," running back Ethan Ryan said. "It really just killed their momentum. I felt we were starting to die out there and we really needed that to bring us back and get us in the game."
Until that point, the Warriors had forced the Mounties to put the ball on the ground five times and had taken it away twice. Lane Grogan had just fired his second touchdown pass of the night, this one to Jordan Fiske, and things were looking bleak for the Mounties.
"I think it woke my team up, before that we were really hanging our heads," Thomas said. "We really let them get in our heads and we forgot what we came here to do. It was only the first half, so the game wasn't over, but we needed something like that."
Aside from the 65-yard touchdown return, the Mounties had a first half most of them would rather forget. They had fumbled five times and lost two. They committed four penalties for 40 yards. Quarterback Brodie Altiere was 0 for 3 in the passing game. Ryan had just 63 yards on 10 carries. Grogan completed 6 of 9 passes for 62 yards, and two touchdowns.
Then Thomas had the return and things turned around. The Mounties forced Wahconah to turn the ball over on downs on the next drive and Ryan finished the half with two carries totaling 40 yards.
"That [return] brought us back," coach Shawn Flaherty said. "I felt like we were still in the game, and what, we were [down 16-6] at that time, I just felt like we were losing them.
"You can talk, you can say what you want to say, but nothing makes up for it like a big play like that. Tyrell really bailed us out and brought the team back."
Thomas had another game-changing play late in the fourth quarter. With Ryan on the sideline because of a cramp in his leg and the Mounties facing a third-and-8 from their own 38, Thomas stepped up again -- make that jumped up.
Altiere struggled to complete passes throughout the game, going 0 for 3 up that point. The freshman quarterback dropped back and let a pass go just before getting hit. The pass appeared as though it was going to sail high over Thomas' head. Then the basketball star took over.
"I used my basketball skills for that one," the junior said. "I acted like I was going up for a rebound. I went up there, grabbed it and secured it to the ground."
The catch was good enough to net the Mounties a first down. They weren't able to completely kill the clock with that drive, but ran the clock down to 4:20 before giving the ball back to Wahconah.
Grogan was just 3 for 8 in the second half and was sacked twice. The Warriors gained just 80 yards in the second half.
Ryan finished the game with 151 yards on 18 carries and two touchdowns and helped the Mounties grab a little revenge for the loss the Warriors handed them on Oct. 26. That loss snapped the Mounties 33-game winning streak.
Mount Greylock 22, Wahconah 16
Greylock 6 8 8 0 -- 22
Wahconah 0 16 0 0 -- 16
First Quarter
MG -- Ethan Ryan 1 run (Pass failed), 6:58.
Second Quarter
W -- Darrow Brown 16 pass from Lane Grogan (Jordan Fiske pass from Grogan), 3:56.
W -- Fiske 15 pass from Grogan (Ethan Wells run), 1:25.
MG -- Tyrell Thomas 72 kick return (Ryan run), 1:13.
Third quarter
MG -- Ryan 4 run (Ryan run), 6:48.
First Downs 9 11
Rushes-yards 32-187 26-141
Passing yards 14 92
Comp-att-int 1-4-0 8-18-0
Fumbles-lost 5-2 2-1
Penalties-yards 6-50 5-25
Individual Stats
RUSHING -- Greylock: Ethan Ryan 18-151, Davion Clement
5-19, Brodie Altiere 1-5, Eric Leitch 1-13, Michael McCormack 7-9. Wahconah: Lane Grogan 15-71, Darrow Brown 4-2, Ethan Wells 7-68.
PASSING -- Greylock: Altiere 1-4-0-14. Wahconah: Grogan 8-18-0-92.
RECEIVING -- Greylock: Tyrell Thomas 1-14. Wahconah: Codi Arthur 1-4, Wells 1-17, Brown 3-19, Jordan Fiske 4-52.
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We don't have Whitetails over here but we do have lots of Fallow deer plus some good numbers of Sambar, Rusa, Chital and Red deer. There is also small numbers of Hog deer and a few Wapati/Red hybrids.
I mainly hunt Fallow, Reds and Sambar in my area.
I've been managing a herd of fallow on a remote 250 acre property for the last 18 months. There's about 140 deer living on and around the block. It's surrounded by National Park and State Forest. Hunting is not permitted in the National Park but it is allowed (under strict licensing conditions) in the State Forest. Poaching has been a common and on-going problem.
The sex ratio of the herd is about 4:1 does to bucks and I've been working at trying to fix this. The landowner wants the herd reduced to about 50 animals and is getting pressure from National Parks rangers to do more to reduce the numbers.
I shot 28 does last year and so far this season (started 11 days ago) I've shot 6. I plan on shooting another 25-30 does this year, and then doing another census to see how the ratio is looking.
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Q&A with Purdue athletic director Morgan Burke on Darrell Hazell and the future of the football program
The goal hasn't changed, despite the 1-11 record in Darrell Hazell's first season.
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Robert Pattinson Talks Hair & Bella's Moves To ETalk
Yes Rob I agree, Bella has Edward and is going around kissing other guys WTF??
82 comments:
- rpattzgirl said...
Ahhh Kate you're trying to kill me today..really...can't keep up!
I love how he says he would of broken up with a girl who did that!! ITA! - June 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM
- woms said...
lol!! He catches them like a dog...
Rob is right..!! Bella can't just go on kissing everybody..
FILTM!!!! - June 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM
- Cherry said...
love when he says
'I would have broken up with a girl if she did that' lol
I guess he definitely believes in being faithful
*sigh* the absolute dream guy. - June 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM
- angie-k SmelledThePretty! said...
Hi again RPG & woms!
Rob is sooo right! WTF? Bella get over yourself!
LOL! Here doggie doggie!!!
Thanks Kate! - June 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM
- rpattzgirl said...
Heeheee, Hi ladies...
- June 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM
- Haystackhair said...
HEY LADIES!!!! I'm back from Nashville!! It was a freakin blast as usual, and they did an amazing job cleaning everything up!! I am going to need DAYS to ingest all this Robhotness!!! I tried to check in a few times but was so busy it was hard (TWSS).
Glad to be back with my pervy friends. Off to catch up. Laters babies!! - June 15, 2010 at 11:51 AM
- dina said...
Oh Kate please it's been boiling hot today almost 40 cool it down a bit, I am literally melting on my couch.
- June 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM
- acullengirl said...
It definalty is Robismas, this man needs a national holiday named after him RPatz day or something.
- June 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
Haystack! Welcome back bb!!!
It will take you a week to get caught up..have fun! - June 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM
- SusieGlam said...
Rob looks hot. And I like that he says he would have broken up with a girl who did that. Go Rob!
Please don't forget to vote for Rob in the Teen Choice Awards EVERY SINGLE DAY because it lets you vote every day. Rob is there for two acting awards. So vote for both, because we don't know which one has better odds of winning and it only takes a second. - June 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM
- Ana73 said...
Haystack - i was just away for a day and half and it took me hours just to go thru all the videos, Have Fun :))
- June 15, 2010 at 12:41 PM
- Kate said...
LOL I'm glad I'm the only one overheating today!
It's very hot here too (and we are so not used to it)
I ran out and cut my front lawn but had to come in for a break before I do the back.It's SO HOT! And it's not any cooler in here is it ? LOL - June 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM
- Ana73 said...
Kate & Dina - it's been over 100 the last two weeks, they said we are having acool off to 97, yeah real cool LOL. and it's getting been getting really hot here LOL.
- June 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
Thanks for the reminder on the voting!!
Kate, no!!! It's too hot!!! - June 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM
- CullenLoverSmelledThePretty! said...
@Kate--The past week (or is it weeks? I lose track of time in RobLand) has had me overheating. You (and Rob) are doing a brilliant job of pushing our temperatures right past overheated straight to feverish. But, it's okay, I can take it. :)
- June 15, 2010 at 1:03 PM
- emma said...
Rob is right, the kissing Jacob thing was ridiculous and inconsistent to the whole story. SM and her fantasies.. ;)
- June 15, 2010 at 1:37 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
FYI, there's a new pic of Rob from yesterday at his hotel...it's a little envasive, I'm assuming that's why it's not posted here....
- June 15, 2010 at 1:39 PM
- evangeline said...
hi wonderful ladies,i look at the interview of rob's sister lizzy on twitter [jittz pattzing],rob is so faithful to himself and when lizzy mention i think is very intellgent and he plays a spineless person in public because he do not want to come off as a show off,i love that about rob,and taylor,taylor cannot help i hve no likeness for him,little of my family saying,taylor is like na tick in a cow's ass,everytime i look at anything with all i heard in my inside,he is not to be trusted
- June 15, 2010 at 1:39 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
I'm not sure why you have so mush dislike or mistrust in Taylor...has he given you reasons to not trust him? He seems like a pretty sweet kid to me...from a good family...very Disney like...
His character Jacob drove me nuts in Eclipse.(and breaking dawn)..but if he weren't for him, Edward would not have had a Bella to come back to in New Moon...as much as we may dislike his character, he is so important to the story...
I guess I'm just trying to understand why you keep bringing this up? - June 15, 2010 at 1:51 PM
- Ana73 said...
rpg - i get exactly what you are saying...i commented on him last night. you are funny..."very disney".
- June 15, 2010 at 1:56 PM
- evangeline said...
@rpattzgirl,jacob is not real,i know that and taylor never did anything,he maybe really very nice,but i just don't trust him please forget it,i am going to say subject close,this will never be brought up again!okay but it's just my six sense!
- June 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
You don't have to close the subject, I was just wondering where you were coming from.... - June 15, 2010 at 2:18 PM
- olejp said...
I would like to thank you for all you ladies do for this community. I do so enjoy coming here everyday.
Thanks again. - June 15, 2010 at 2:20 PM
- solas said...
I also was wondering. It seems that Evangeline is fiercely loyal and protective of Rob, which I thnk we all are; just maybe you see Taylor as a threat to Rob's happiness somehow?
I personally am not a fan of Taylor but he seems like a sweet kid but very self-assured, into the 'party lines' of hollywood establishment; the 'good (cooperative) boy'; marketable/self-marketable; perhaps that is what is meant by being a Disney kid?
And as for the character of Jacob, I did not like him much at all, found him obnoxious, but you are absolutely right, RPG, in that he DID keep Bella together when Edward messed up royally. - June 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM
- Cheeky Chops said...
Taylor has a job, and he takes it very seriously. You have to respect a person like that. Esp someone his age being able to pull that off. Plus, he's a cutie. :)
- June 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM
- dina said...
@sol messed up royally I liked that.
- June 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM
- dina said...
During this promo Taylor looks so relaxed and having fun, I grew to like him more.It wasn't that I didn't like him before but he sounded so politically correct all the time that bored the hell out of me.
- June 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM
- dina said...
I guess is the Rob effect.
- June 15, 2010 at 2:51 PM
- evangeline said...
hi solas!and rpattzgirl,loyal maybe yes,but this is hard to say,but when i was able to work my was a wongerful never had a disagreement ,please ladies don't laugh!i do not really speak about it,but since,i don't know you ladies,i will say,i told my boss,she need to go and check her breast out,and she and her male they laugh at me for several months and one when i went to work she leap into my arms,and broke down in tears then she told me she had cancer in one of her breast
- June 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM
- solas said...
evangeline--and you feel now that Rob is in danger of some sort now, G-d forbid? or at least sense he is danger of gettng hurt emotionally?
- June 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM
- evangeline said...
i not really good at writing on computers,forgive this,i get dreams,not often but when i get them they are always correct!that present obama,i told my boss.he was going to be present,but they did not believe he is black,i relatives are afarif of me and ihave two friends,my husband tried to cheat it did not work,let me tell you about next year rob i going to win an oscar,okay and let's wait until next year!cool ladies
- June 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
You poor thing! Well, I think everythings going to be fine...
try not to worry.... - June 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM
- nikola6 said...
I've always been impressed with Taylor in that, for as young as he is, he seems in such command of himself. And I'm guessing that comes in part, from his martial arts training as that involves mental as well as physical discipline. I mean, I prefer Rob's more unpolished approach as it just feels so 'real' to me. But Taylor's an okay kid. Kinda sweet actually. I remember Kristen once said about him...'I'd do anything for that kid'. It's pretty obvious that she adores him.
- June 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM
- Laurie said...
"He's resisting media training" was said of Rob. You may never hear that said of Taylor. Taylor is cute, and young, and very malleable. I don't dislike him, he does seem like a nice kid, I do worry about him, but mostly because I think he will become more and more plastic and bland. A cookie cutter character. It was great to see him a little more relaxed and less programmed in the recent interviews. Rob has already shown that he is independent, stubborn and wants to remain in charge of his own destiny. One of the many things I admire about him.
Thanks Kate, Kat & Goz for posting the clips. My TV reception is not always the greatest and I know I can count of you to give me a second chance.
And, Rob, do you say these things because you know women will love it or because you really mean it? **sigh** It doesn't matter, you are beyond words either way. - June 15, 2010 at 3:40 PM
- nikola6 said...
As for this kiss between Bella and Jacob...
When I first read it, I'll admit that it felt like such a kick in the gut...because of Edward. I thought, 'how could she do this to him?' But then, I thought about it some more...
And I think what Meyer was trying to get across here was, yes, Edward was the love of her existence, but...there was another path with Jacob. A very viable, valid path. It's like her life had two choices; immortality with Edward OR mortality with Jacob. And even Edward -in his maturity- saw that, which is why I think he handled it so well in the book.
And I think in that moment when she kissed him, she did it with the intent of keeping him from going to the fight and purposefully getting himself killed (god, he manipulated her there), but then she realized...Jacob was a choice. Not that it threatened what she felt for Edward, but that she finally acknowledged that it was there.
She gets such flak for this and I mean my god, she's a teenage girl and she was torn (not wanting to cause pain for the best friend who literally saved her life) and for a moment, just a moment, confused. But she realized almost instantly, her mistake. She wasn't being a cheat in that moment, she was being human.
Just my take. - June 15, 2010 at 3:41 PM
- nikola6 said...
And I still say...
Edward has no one but himself to blame for all of this. His actions (abandoning her) put all of this into play. His fault! And he knows it. At least in the book he does. That what makes Edward...Edward. He's got the maturity and wisdom of
a man and is not consumed with the petty jealousy of a teenager. Not that he doesn't get jealous, but he doesn't let it rule him. For example; inviting Jacob to his own wedding because he KNOWS how much that will mean to Bella. A petty, jealous man would not have made such a gesture. But I think they're changing some of this for the films.
I think they're gonna pander to what they think the audience wants to see; a jealous in your face Edward. And that will be fun to watch, I admit. But it won't be the character as written. Even Rob is justifying it by saying...he's getting younger. By reconnecting with the world that he'd shut himself off from, he's becoming that teenage boy.
I suppose that is a valid approach and films can never be what the books are because when you adapt something, you are changing it. In this case, from one medium (the written page) to another (the three dimensional screen).
Just my take. - June 15, 2010 at 3:56 PM
- Ana73 said...
nik - ITA :) the story would be twilight without the human, the vamp and the wolf and of course the two supernaturals are fighting for the human :))
- June 15, 2010 at 4:15 PM
- Ana73 said...
oops mistype "wouldn't"
- June 15, 2010 at 4:15 PM
- femroc said...
'I would have broken up with a girl if she did that.
Rob's definitely NOT Edward - just so you know!! lol
Interesting comment though - seems women are more forgiving of men's discretions/affairs but glad Sandra Bullock and Tiger's wife have basically let them go.
The more we take them back.......the more they'll cheat! JMHO - June 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM
- tmaryf said...
Bless him, Bless him, BLESS HIM,
There is so much Rob footage at the moment I feel like I am going to burst...or spontaneously combust..... or something!
Could he actually be more adorable?
Robert Pattinson you are driving me CRAZY!
I am loosing my grip on reality! - June 15, 2010 at 4:22 PM
- HeartRob said...
And by the way,
No one can say EROTIC so damn hot as Rob.
And with the BelAmi - DVD I will lock myself in my room. ;)
FILTM he is so E R O T I C - June 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
So true about Edward (book Edward) he even says something like I'm the one that left you bleeding...he totally knows it...even though it hurt him when she kissed Jake, he understood, and still thought Jake was the better choice for her.... - June 15, 2010 at 4:35 PM
- HeartRob said...
"How can it be right, if it hurts you so much."
I love these words of "Book-Edward". - June 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM
- Lemonless said...
@Nik: You've probably gone already, but I just had to respond to your comment. I hope they don't do Breaking Dawn in 3D! Can you inagine the cesaerian? Ewww!
- June 15, 2010 at 4:41 PM
- HeartRob said...
The cesarean section in 3-D is an absolute NO - GO.
But Esmes island scenes ..................................;pppppppppp - June 15, 2010 at 4:46 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
Gawd NO 3D!!!! Except for Isle Esme, I agree...
- June 15, 2010 at 4:48 PM
- Laurie said...
Oh come on you guys, don't you want to see Edward rip that baby out? Just kidding. I have no idea how they are going to make this film. Boggles the mind.
- June 15, 2010 at 4:57 PM
- evangeline said...
hi nik solas,i am okay!emotions,is something we all have to face and it is called life,i know rob is not a baby,i know life is not smooth sailing with no one,rob is not different hurt is just a part of life and this i do understand,i know which way, i can help and i know which way i cannot also,i also know i do not have to see rob or touch rob,i was falling short and getting distracted but i am okay and so will rob
- June 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM
- nikola6 said...
Agreed. Without that triangle, the emotional dramatic content of this thing would have suffered and given the actors much less to work with.
Nope. Rob ain't Edward. He hasn't got the wisdom and maturity of a man over a hundred years old and by his own admission, is possesive (as so many are whether they admit it or not). And yeah, women do forgive men more easily than they do us. And I think it has to do with biology (at the end of the day, EVERYTHING between men and women does).
Once a man mates with a woman, it's like he's stamped his brand on her and he don't want no other 'swimmers' swimming in his gene pool as that threatens his survival; the survival of his line, his seed to carry on long after he's gone.
And a man doesn't have the 100% assurance that a woman does that the offspring is his because, it literally grows in her body. She KNOWS it's her's. But the man is seperated from that process. He simply plants his seed and then has to step back. And this not knowing with that 100& assurance that the offspring is his, is what fuels male jealousy. This is what drives them and it's a primal thing. And I would guess that a lot of them aren't even aware of it. But it is the thing that drives male jealousy...offspring.
And with the sexual revolution and the full emancipation of women, modern men (in industrialized nations that is, in many third world countries, not much has changed) are having to deal with something that men in the past never had to when they had women under their control (and that was the origins of 'legal' marriage; the controlling of women) AND it's wrecking havoc on modern relationships as the men have yet to figure out how to deal with this. And I do not believe they ever will because nothing is stronger than biology. Nothing. I don't care how we evolve socially or intellectually or whatever. When it comes to the primal roots of male/female relationships, we are not that far removed from the cave.
Sorry. Crazy brain running off on another tangent. I need a pill. - June 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM
- Ana73 said...
I am with everyone else...NO 3-D !!! it actually give me a headache, i took my son to see "UP" in 3-D and i had a headache afterwards. when we go to the movies now, i just tell they are notplaying it in 3-D, he cant read yet so he doesn't know that i am fibbing :))
- June 15, 2010 at 5:06 PM
- ROBsessed89 said...
'I would have broken up with a girl if she did that'
IA NO 3D - June 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM
- solas said...
I pretty much agree with most if not all of what is said re Edward; I posted as much a few days (or was it a week) ago.
Evangeline, nothng wrong with worryng about Rob and wanting the best for himself, as long as we don't get hystercal or start spreading rumours or bad info from other sites because we are worried about what we read.
I loved the last Harry Potter in 3D. It was one of the best movie experiences of my life! I felt as if I were nearly falling off my broomstck flying along with them all!
I am not sure if I will like Eclpse in 3d as much, as I don't know if I will want to experience the fights and such the way I wanted to experience flying with Harry Potter et al, but I am going to try it.
And I am just not so sure about BD, if there is anything worth seeing/experiencing in 3D. - June 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM
- nikola6 said...
The only reason I can see them using 3-D is if they forgo that ceasarean and have her give birth naturally with her shooting that baby out the vajayjay clear across the room to Edward's waiting arms. LMAO!
Come to think of it...that could actually be quite entertaining. I personally think Rob would piss himself laughing trying to film a scene like that. And he'd need one helluva catcher's mit. Maybe he could wear his LB cap in the scene. Shut up Nik. Well. I'm just envisioning something here. Ignore me. - June 15, 2010 at 5:39 PM
- emma said...
"there was another path with Jacob. A very viable, valid path. It's like her life had two choices" So what? Most people have choices. Does it mean that you accept a ring and swear eternal love to one person and the next day you're trying another valid path with another man? It can happen in real life, if a person has low morals/doesn't care much, but it's a dissonance in a story about the perfect love don't you think? Of course Edward is rock solid and doesn't care about other women at all. The writing is vain. In real life Edward would have dumped Bella ;)
- June 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM
- rpattzgirl said...
LMAO Nik.....it's like what Rob said about his fav horror movie It's Alive, and cops coming and shooting at it...
it could just shoot straight out...
and then run around between their feet...
Ohh, that's awful, I know, but too funny... - June 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM
- solas said...
emma-- I think Bella had to come to terms with just what her love and connection wth Jacob was. It is true, as edward noted, that he had patched up holes he, Edward, had left in her. But what she saw, when she kissed Jacob, was a life she COULD have had-- staying alive, stayng in the life with her parents, having babies. And if she were normal, if she weren't such an old soul herself, if she really wanted a fun and irresponsible adolescence that she COULD have had with Jacob (remember, even in her recklessness, it was to see/experence Edward; it was all about Edward)then Jacob might have been the rght choice, a good possbility. But between her love that was too like an imprinting with Edward, and her own personality that really could NOT live a normal life, and Jacob's too possble future of imprinting on someone, and Bella's self-knowledge of who it was she could NOT live without, she could now make the decision more fully, more wholly. And I think Edward realized all of that, and so would not dump her, even if he could in his own love and existence wrapped around hers.
- June 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM
- nikola6 said...
Iknow RPG...
Could you see Rob trying to film a scene like that? He'd be in convulsions. They'd have to cart him off on a stretcher. LOL!
And emma...
Throughout the story, Bella awknowledges Jacob as a friend only.
And while she has sworn her undying eternal love to Edward, she has not yet made that FULL committment to him. In that, she is hesitating as she has not said yes to marriage and she has not yet accepted his ring. Not because she's hesitating in love for him, but because she's not sure how it is, she wants to live with him; as simply lovers or as husband and wife. Which I always thought was very strong and level headed of her. She was using her brain and THINKING as oppose to being an emotional teenager and just grabbing the ring and saying yes, yes, yes.
And in that moment when she kissed Jacob, she still only saw him as a friend, but then the realization hit her...I could have a life with him too, a different one. But she CHOSE Edward. By giving her another path, it made her choice of Edward even STRONGER because there was the possibility that something could challenge it.
If nothing challenges a choice we make (and I mean the big ones), then where do we grow and learn about ourselves? If it's too easy? We only learn life's lessons in adversity. And she learned something about herself in that moment of conflict...she loved Edward MORE! Without Jacob and the choice he laid before her, would she have ever really known just how much she did love Edward?
I will always stand by the idea that in giving her a choice, it made the choice she did make...STRONGER!
Just my opinion. - June 15, 2010 at 6:07 PM
- nikola6 said...
In real life, an immature teenage boy would have dumped Bella. But that's not what Edward Cullen was. For a character so popular, I cannot recall one that was so misread by the audience. I'm thinking maybe because so many projected onto this character what they wanted and needed him to be, rather than seeing him for who he actually was.
And this is why I think Meyer is considering rewriting Twilight from Edward's point of view. Even she said, the audience misread him. - June 15, 2010 at 6:11 PM
- nikola6 said...
Completely agree Solas. You said that much better than I did.
- June 15, 2010 at 6:15 PM
- jc(kyfilly) said...
I am Robhausted, but I love it!
ROTFLMAO!! shoot out the vajayjay..hilarious!!
p.s. NO 3-D..ruination!!!!
FILTM!! - June 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM
- emma said...
solas - sure, we can pretend it's not SM's sexual fantasy, but still - Bella could reflect on that without the passionate kiss with Jacob ;)
- June 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM
- solas said...
Midnight Sun is wonderful and I think havng read it early on gave me a better persepctive of Edward. Remember that Twlight was wrtten from the POV of Bella, and so we only see through the eyes of a teenager in love (OH why must i be...), and even though she was not a normal teen, even though she was intelligent and mature beyond her years and known by family to be an old soul, she was still limited by her infatuation and so we as the readers were, as well.
- June 15, 2010 at 6:27 PM
- solas said...
BTW--there is a good FF about Edward's POV for New MOOn and Eclipse, very well written.
- June 15, 2010 at 6:28 PM
- emma said...
"And while she has sworn her undying eternal love to Edward, she has not yet made that FULL committment to him. In that, she is hesitating as she has not said yes to marriage and she has not yet accepted his ring."
oh yes, she did! maybe that's why this kiss is so cringeworthy. - June 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM
- solas said...
emma--I thnk she actually needed to see her whole body respond to that kiss in order to bring the realization to the conscious thought. It was the self-horror of responding, after tryng to push him away, after feeling guilty, so many confused emotions, that facilitated the self-realzation and cathaarsis that was really necessary to commit wholly to Edward.
- June 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM
- solas said...
Yes, she had said yes to marriage already, and I think that is part of what distressed her about her own reaction to Jacob's kiss. It had to come to a head, so to speak.
- June 15, 2010 at 6:32 PM
- emma said...
solas - oh, no problem, her teenage body wanted to know who is the best kisser, subconsiously ;)Then she decided Edward's slightly better :P Catharsis!
- June 15, 2010 at 6:45 PM
- nikola6 said...
emma (love that name by the way. it's my niece's name too)...
I think it was the kiss that JOLTED her. For what other reason would she have stopped and reflected on what she could have had with Jacob? As she spend the entire story -up until that moment- thinking of him only as a friend. What would have been the catalyst for even thinking of the possibility of another choice? Something needed to kick her in the ass to see it. And kiss did the trick.
But I do see where some are coming from with this. That the love that Edward and Bella felt for one another was untouchable. That nothing, NOTHING could get in the way of it. But that was the fairy tale aspect of it and I thought it was a solid choice that Meyer threw a dash of reality into the scenario. But I think it's because she put a chink in the armour of that fairy tale, that some have a problem with it. And I do understand that.
Perhaps in the beginning when this was only two books (Twilight and Breaking Dawn), it was the fairy tale aspect of that beautiful vampire boy and the ordinary human girl of her dream, that fueled her story; that not even worlds colliding could mar the untouchable PERFECT love of Edward Cullen and Isabella Swan.
But then her story evolved. And the perfect fairy tale changed...just a bit. But it still ended up exactly where she intended it to all along; the fairy tale ending of eternal married bliss, a baby and a happily ever after...forever.
Again, just my take. Doesn't make me right. - June 15, 2010 at 6:59 PM
- nikola6 said...
Okay. I'm gonna have to go read Eclipse again (it's been two years now). I know that she'd agreed to marry him, but she was hesitant about the whole thing and agreed in part because of their deal; she'd give him marriage, he'd give her sex. And I'm pretty sure she didn't let him put that ring on her finger until the last page of the book or so when she said something like...'where's my ring. it's time to tell Charlie'.
I dunno. I still say she was struggling. Not with her love and commitment to Edward, but with the idea of marriage. I think she thought...'why? what's the point? we don't need it.
And they didn't need it. He just wanted it. In fact...as I recall there is a moment in Eclipse where Edward tells her, 'I'll explain to you one day why marriage is so important to me'. But then...he never does. I remembered waiting for that in Breaking Dawn, but it never came.
But like I said, it's been about two years since I read these things and maybe he did and I just don't remember. - June 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM
- solas said...
emma--catalyst (whchever form it may be)leads to catharsis (whichever form it may be). :-)
- June 15, 2010 at 7:16 PM
- solas said...
She WAS struggling. Even though she agreed, she was not wholehearted about marriage and the life she was giving up as well as the unlife she would be taking on. It was only after seeing she had a choice, yet still wanted Edward, knew she couldn't be wthout Edward, that she could commit to marriage and the unlife wholeheartedly. As she said, she was ready.
- June 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM
- nikola6 said...
Oh and btw emma...
I did not enjoy that kiss between Bella and Jacob at all. As I said, my initial reaction to it was...a kick in the gut because all I could think about was Edward and how much it would hurt him.
And I hated the fact that Meyer (who'd made no bones that Jacob was her favorite character), favored him over Edward in BD; in story content and further character development.
Because Edward won Bella, she had to make Jacob win too and so she handed him the next best thing...their baby daughter. And because of the imprinting, that little girl loved Jacob more than her own father even. And THAT is what ultimately ruined this story for me. More than anyone else (even Bella), Renesmee was Edward's miracle. And she was snatched from him by Jacob.
And I said, if I ever find myself in a Q&A with Stephenie Meyer someday, I will try to address this with her. I think she made a huge, big whoppin' mistake here. - June 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM
- nikola6 said...
And Solas...
It was you who pointed this out to me. I always hated that passage in the book where the baby is ranking the people in her life in their importance to her; first her mother, then Jacob and then her father. And that's what I thought it was, their 'importance' to her. But you pointed out that what she was really doing was ranking them in the order that she loved them. And to put Jacob ahead of her own father? But she had no choice because the imprinting bound her to Jacob and she loved him more than her own father even, because of it.
God. I hated that imprinting...it took the character's choices from them. It bound them. It was weak storytelling. - June 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM
- emma said...
nikola6, solas - you can rationalize all you want, I'm still cringing :) She could have kissed Jacob in New Moon, it would be more understandable.
"It was only after seeing she had a choice (...) that she could commit to marriage and the unlife wholeheartedly"
nope, she never hesitated! The question was: when :) - June 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM
- solas said...
Oh emma-- actually agree; it WAS cringeworthy, and as I've said, I do not like the character Jacob. I just understand from a psychological point of view as well as literary vehicle, the need for catharsis and the need for the catalyst to lead to catharsis. I would really rather she had dumped Jacob once and for all after he forced a kiss upon her, but obviously she had a bond, at the very least for saving her life a few times, and also guilt of using him, to him that made her easily forget her anger and forgive him again and again, and so the bond had to be finally faced and defined.
- June 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM
- nikola6 said...
I'm not trying to rationalize emma because I feel that my interpretation of the story is correct. I couldn't defend my opinion if I didn't. And just because I feel this way, doesn't mean that I am right. It's simply how I interpreted the story. And's that's what I'm doing...interpreting. And so are you. And that's what makes books so great. Ten people can read the same one and come away with ten different ideas about what it was.
What I like is that we can have a discussion like this where were disagreeing and still
remain civil with one another. And that's not always easy with internet communication. It's easy to misinterpet what someone is saying because we cannot see each other's facial expressions or hear each other's vocal inflections.
But I've really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks. - June 15, 2010 at 7:56 PM
- solas said...
well, Nik, you know what I think of it and how I think it could be fixed if Rosenberg would do it and Stephenie would allow it.
- June 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM
- solas said...
I agree, Nik.
- June 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM
- nikola6 said...
Oh I know Solas.
Your idea is PERFECT; that he imprinted on her as a protector, not as future mate. It is the answer.
Because this idea did not work in the book. It brought this whole thing to a screeching halt and burst that bubble that Meyer was floating around in. Even a part of her own fandom went after her because of this one idea (and the other part with tunnel vision can find no fault with her on anything). And if it didn't work in the book, what makes them think it will work on screen? I don't think it's going to and they're going to be hit with same 'pedophila' criticism that the book got. Even though that's not what this was, it's how it was 'interpreted' (there's that word again) by so many.
Even Rob teased Taylor with...'didn't you SLEEP with the baby?'
They said the script isn't done yet. Who knows? Maybe they've realized they gotta revisit this idea. One can only hope. - June 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM
- lallieb said...
Hi, my name is Lallie and I'm a ROBsesser. I'm probably the only human being not watching the Basketball game in Boston, well actually I have it on. How about you Nik? LA vs. Boston, guess I know who you're cheering for. We got a big rivalry going here.
Got nothing to add to the Bella's choice talk here, you all (Nik and Solas) have said it and interpreted it way too effectively. Bella did stop and consider the normal life and family she could have with Jacob. She could have "settled", for a true friend she loved and it would have been a better, wiser choice, but she knew she would never be happy rejecting the passionate love and chemistry she has with Edward. The kiss perhaps sealing the deal, she felt the lack of passion in it and realized there was really no choice for her afterall.
Also, I'm glad to put the Taylor bashing here to rest, it was irritating. No reason for it. He's a sweet guy who caught some lightening, and both Rob and Kristen love him, like a younger brother. His portrayal of Jacob has been spot on and he's worked hard at it. - June 15, 2010 at 9:25 PM
- lallieb said...
Oh Dammit, is this thread dead???
- June 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM
- solas said...
I still come back and check lallib;-) i try to check threads until they are 2 pages back.
- June 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM


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Eat delicious pancakes every morning when you make them on your Deni 2 Piece Pancake Maker (4882). This pancake maker can create two (2) 5.5" pancakes in just 5 minutes, giving you enough time to cook breakfast for the entire family before all of their busy days begin. No flipping is required with this machine because the double-sided cooking thoroughly cooks both sides of the pancake, allowing you to focus on more than just cooking the pancakes. In addition to cooking pancakes, this machine can also cook eggs, quesadillas, omelettes, and much more.
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