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chris tregge
Sep 23, 2012
"New project on the RR wall? Looks hard."
Currently a closed project. Hard and continuous. Will hopefully turn out to be a good route. Sep 25, 2012
We thought it looked like a little red string attached to 2nd bolt. Good on you man, looks really good. Sep 25, 2012
Closed project?!!? WTF is this, COLORADO? Sep 25, 2012
If that is not the standard ethic, hop on it. Most locations I have climbed at all around the US (I have not climbed in CO) usually respect the effort of bolting and cleaning a line. Within the last year, I have seen red tags at the red, Jackson Falls, Willow River and Spearfish. I am guessing that you are just trying to stir up the pot ....
Try out some of the other more challenging lines at Castle Rock - Flunkers roof, barely there, the hulk, gamma bomb..... you won't be disappointed. Or, find a line that you like and bolt it. Sep 27, 2012
I've never understood the closed project "ethic". I mean, who cares who does it first? I won't go into the psychoanalysis, that's for the forums but I appreciate the invitation to climb it and I think I speak for everyone when I say we appreciate the new routes. However, in my opinion closed projects should remain the domain of CO navel gazers. Sep 27, 2012
Maybe you sshould spend the cash it takes, then ALOT of effort, and time. When you put those things into a climb you have a disre to climb it, first. It really is yours. The "invitation" to climb it will come, sometimes when the equipper decides they can't climb it and invites others to try. Sometimes after they've sent it.
It's always tough to understand something you have no experience with. Something to be considered before spouting off about other people.
josh Oct 8, 2012
I've cleaned and spent plenty of time prepping routes Josh, yet I never claim them for myself just because I put in the effort first. I said above we all appreciate the time, money and effort put into routes but to close the route to others just because the person who prepped it is egotistical and lame. I realize that this is some sort of tradition among sport climbers but it's a tradition that should die. No offense to Chris, he's just following that tradition but I humbly request the tradition does not live on.
You think trad climbers don't put time, money and effort into their routes? Do trad climbers put a little red string string on the route they just brushed off 50lbs of moss, dirt and grime to close it off to others? No, they don't, because it's about sharing not owning. It's public land and open to all and whatever is added to that land is public property. Oct 8, 2012
Your opinion isnt the only one out there, And it isn't the final word. In fact Your opinion is likely the minority. You should look at your ego in that you believe all routes are yours.
I'd love to hear about which routes you've put effort into. Would you care to name them?
I can tell you I put up a new long route this summer. A traditional line that also involved some bolts. All said and done i spent several weeks, hundreds of dollars, and HOURS of work. If someone else had snuck in and climbed it before we had a chance to finish it I'd have been pissed. The end result? There is a a great new route that alot of folks have already enjoyed. Maybe you should just stay in Wisconsin, instead of visiting other places, telling them they are doing it wrong, and then talking shit afterwards?
josh Oct 9, 2012
I'm popping some popcorn for this response. Might I suggest moving it to the forum for the general amusement of all? Oct 9, 2012
I think we'll keep this conversation right here Josh!!!! Oct 9, 2012
Good call Chris. Would have been interesting, to say the least.
Mr. Thompson, do you know who S.P.L.T. Image is? He has done a fair few services for the Wisconsin climbing community. Oct 9, 2012
Nope. Don't care.
He seems like quite the excellent representative for Wisconsin.
I know alot of climbers, who climb alot of different things/styles. I've also been climbing a long time. The thing I've learned both from experience and others experiences'; you don't get to dictate other peoples ethics. But if you show them respect for who they are and what they do, they might one day listen to your opinion. I've seen none of that from Mr. "S.P.L.T"...whatever that means.
Do you know who I am? No? Good. It doesn't matter either.
josh Oct 9, 2012
Also....Chris, looks like a nice line. Appears to overhang at the top? Cool looking holds all the way up...what is the rock type?
Cheers for new routes!
josh Oct 9, 2012
Sorry for the delay. J. you are clearly missing the point, if you are putting up routes strictly to be first then I think you shouldn't be putting up routes at all.
I never said my word is the final one, I'm giving my opinion and argument as to why I think that way, take it or leave it.
At this crag in fact I have put up three trad routes, Buddha Bukstein Crack, Whitney's Chimney, and Whitney's Revenge but I wouldn't say I got an FA not because I am or am not the first but because that's not why I climbed those lines. I climbed and cleaned them to add to the resource.
Just the fact that you would be pissed that someone climbed the route you were putting up before you did shows that you are doing this more for yourself than for the community. Oct 10, 2012
In addition, do you see a guy, finding a boulder problem, cleaning it, scrubbing it, maybe fix the landing, clear the walk off, ie put in time and effort THEN claim no one else can try it until they send it first? It seems a little silly. What you do see is a group of people going out finding a problem, putting in time and effort and then collectively figuring the problem out and sending it. Everyone is psyched when someone sends, not throwing a tantrum because they put in the most work and then someone else snags the coveted FA. At least that's how it works where I'm from. It just seams like a more healthy and mature way to handle things. Oct 10, 2012
You put up 3, 100 ft tradional lines? Even cleaned them? WOW. Did the approach take you 10 minutes too?
There's a big difference between the effort I'm talking about and the one you are.
Here is the route I mentioned above:
So we have 3, 100ft traditional routes(did you put in any bolts?)
With a minor approach and that may have been climbed before. You spent what an hour "cleaning" them? Spend any cash?
Then we have an 800ft. Trad climb at around 13,000 ft. Admittedly the approach isn't huge, by my standards, but you start it at over 12K and its seriously up hill. The first time we went in my pack weighed over 60pounds, my partners was at least 50. We placed a bolted anchor and rappelled down to check out the route. We spent several hours figuring out things like how many bolts were needed and where to place them. Then we jumared back up around 400ft of ropes and left them fixed. We came back again rapped down, worked out more stuff, then rapped to the base and did a serious hike up and out. Then I came back by myself rapped in and spent around 4 hours cleaning. Then I rapped down and did the big hike up and out. Finally we rapped our ropes (one had some nasty core shots) and did the FA. Pulling ropes up as we went. Then hiked the ropes and gear back out.
We spent around $100 to equip the route. TONS of effort, 30+ hours over multiple weeks, lost 1 rope to damage.
So yes, you're damn right I'd be pissed if after all of that someone like you decided they should be able to climb it before me.
All of that effort, time and money created a great new route that the community is already enjoying(check out the comments).I'm quite proud of that route, and the community is greatful for the effort.
If someone equips a sport route they also spend alot of money,time and effort. Because of that they deserve to spend some time trying to do it before johnny hard guy gets to run up it in his flip flops.
If you can't understand and respect that then you have no clue.
Bouldering? Yeah it takes a ton of effort to do that new, sick 4 move V6....or not. Fun? Sure! But who really cares when there's next to nothing that needs to be done to make it go. Apples and Oranges.
josh Oct 10, 2012
You are still not getting it J, try to wrap your tiny little brain around the following. THE AMOUNT OF TIME, MONEY, AND EFFORT, IS UNRELATED TO THE IDEA THAT RED TAGGING IS SELF-SERVING AND THEREFORE CONTRARY TO AN ETHOS OF OPENLY SHARING A NEW ROUTE. Can you tell us how much time, effort and money is required exactly to qualify getting pissed about someone getting the route before you? Of course not, the answer is arbitrary.
If we would like to talk about giving to the climbing community and who gives more I feel obligated to mention that I almost made myself bat-shit crazy putting on comps in which I gave all profits to the access fund. Thus, it might have been some of my efforts that even allowed you to approach this crag in the first place.
ALOT of us give to the community in ways besides spending money on bolts. Sport climbing isn't my thing so I give in other ways, had there been some sweet lines to bolt in WI left that had inspired me I would have bolted them with my own time, money and effort and I wouldn't have bothered to close them to anyone before I got to send them because getting an FA doesn't mean shit to me. If WI had any mountains I would have been running up and down them, cleaning, bolting, and showing them to others regardless of if I sent already or not.
I'm not looking for any recognition for anything I've done and I'm not looking for any courtesies either, I just like to see people sending and reaching their goal, whatever it might be. Besides the routes just at this crag I've scrubbed and cleaned and help put up a good # of routes and boulder problems, perhaps even more total length then your measly 800ft and I've never closed any of them or tried to save the glory for myself.
So, good for you for putting the time, money and effort into putting up a route but to bar anyone else from doing it for any length of time is inherently selfish. Oh...and ColoRADo beer sucks.
Be well. Oct 10, 2012
Did you happen to check my profile? Did you see the "FA" listed next to a lot of the routes I've entered? If you 'd like to tally the amount of feet I've put into the climbing community and compare go ahead. I'll win, hands down.
If you'd like to have a "who's done more" contest, well its pretty likely I'll win that one as well. ASCA, Access fund, AAC....yup donated, volunteered, and went out of my way for all of them.
I get it. You don't. If a climbing community doesn't respect First ascentionist's, then guess what? There will be far fewer routes put up.
You can't be dumb enough to think I'd blow a bunch of time, money and effort just so I could be all..."Look at me!" "I put up a 5.10 climb"!!!! Well, maybe you can.
If I was selfish and not concerned about the community as a whole...I'd have pulled the bolts when I was done and not said a word until someone else tried to claim an FA ,later, and I was all..."did it back it 2012".
So you see, when the community as a whole respects First ascentionist and lets them play on their routes for alittle while, well the community benefits.
You are right...who does the FA of some 5.10, 5.11, 5.12 (or 5.8/.9 in your case) climb really doesn't matter. Respecting the fact that people are putting up new routes and that soon enough they will be available to the public does.
Colorado beer sucks? Ok, cool.
Do you know what really sucks?
Wisconsin climbing.
josh Oct 11, 2012
You ever get the feeling that you're fucking with someone who likes to be fucked with?
(Sigh) I don't know another way to express that unconditional sharing is the heart of a positive and productive community. It's not about who has done more as no amount of work entitles anyone to close public property to anyone else.
Go ahead, red tag your routes if it makes you feel like a man, like you have contributed more to climbing than other people, I couldn't care less. If I see a red tag I will cut it off, get on the route and tic all of the bad holds. If the "owner" was there I would get on, just to see what would happen.
People who truly love climbing will continue to establish routes regardless of the perks of doing so. If red-tagging were somehow outlawed route creation would undoubtedly continue, for the love of it. If you need to send first to justify the effort you are truly a weak man and miss the real benefit of putting up a new route.
I would love to continue this chaos but your head is much too thick and I'm off to the hills for a week or two. Climb on.
So you admit CO beer sucks? Finally a little reality from ColoRADo. Oct 11, 2012
Classic case of a Noob who just doesn't get it.
Don't you have a silent partner somewhere to go reinvent and act like it hasn't already been figured out before?
I can tell you this..when you cross the wrong person with the wrong red tagged route...you'll most certainly see "what happens". I hope your head is thick enough for that.
I don't need to measure myself to anyone....but when you want to act all high and mighty...well sometimes you need your peepee smacked. Sure seems like you can't handle it...so the old "deny and make counter accusations" routine comes out.
I always love the...I don't have time for this I'm going climbing defense. Its and old classic...but you wouldn't know that.
I admit this, Beer is good.
josh Oct 11, 2012
Wow, excellent gentlemen! Well played.
PS. Wisconsin climbing doesn't suck. Well, to those of us who are stuck here anyway... Josh come DL sometime, I'll give you a tour and guarantee you'll have a great time. Oct 11, 2012
"Wisconsin climbing doesn't suck"
Chris, I have little doubt. I've heard some very good things. But for the sake of argument, it does make an easy target, No?
I may very well take you up on that offer one day. I'd also return it...when you're out here drop me a line.
josh Oct 11, 2012
Sadly, it's raining here so, game on!
Another classic defense is to ignore argument and just claim that I don't know what I'm talking about. How about addressing my points? Here they are again for review:
-The idea of saving public property for ones persoanl use is selfish.
-Any personal property willingly added to public property becomes pubicly owned.
-Phyiscal confrontation over climbing ethics is uncivilized.
-ColoRADo beer sucks. Oct 12, 2012
Wow - this discussion really grew!
Thanks for sharing a different perspective JT. Nick (it is nick right?) the thing to remember is that having an opinion doesn't make you right - regardless of how many times you state it, how loudly you state it, or how many insults you sling. I feel differently, but that is just my opinion .... nothing more ... yawn.
As I said before, if you feel strongly enough, go for it. I would appreciate it if people would be willing to wait - but regardless, I will still be psyched to climb a new to me route at a local cliff.
I will once again throw out that there are many other GOOD routes at this cliff. Have you done them all? If not hop on some of the others ..... Have you even been to CR recently (or are just stirring up the pot)?
Nick your last comment is true (I am not sure about the Colorado beer though). But you are presenting from a selfish perspective - I suggest rereading JT's comments with an open mind. Sounds like you two have a lot of similarities. Oct 12, 2012
Right on Chris, this is nothing personal. I saw no pint where "josh" addressed my points, all I saw were threats of violence and the classic political punditry of name calling.
I don't see how me claiming rights to use public property can be selfish and I don't see how red tagging benefits the community. I have put tons of work into the climbing community and never asked for anything in return but according to "josh" that doesn't count and that's bullshit. Does it all really matter? No, but it's fun to debate.
I have tried all the lines at this crag and would love to get on the new ones but I don't live in WI anymore. I might come back for a week in November though.
BTW, the hangers on the other new climbs were purchased by me and then given to put up new lines in WI. Oct 13, 2012
To be clear.
There was no threat of violence by me. Period.
There was simply a fact stated that should the knucklehead above do what he said here:
"If I see a red tag I will cut it off, get on the route and tic all of the bad holds. If the "owner" was there I would get on, just to see what would happen."
Then this:
"..when you cross the wrong person with the wrong red tagged route...you'll most certainly see "what happens". I hope your head is thick enough for that."
...is possible.
So stop being a sally and acting like I threatened you.
I addressed your issues, you're just to dense to notice.
"BTW, the hangers on the other new climbs were purchased by me and then given to put up new lines in WI."
...is classic look at what I did...MEMEME!
Douche baggery!
Oct 13, 2012
Ryan Strong Golden, CO
Everything else aside, just a question for the community. In a state where just about every route is top rope-able why are un finished projects being bolted? Why scar up the rock before you are certain the route goes? I witnessed some one else bolt a route at Castle Rock before he even top roped it. Then when he began working the route he realized how awkward his bolt placements were. Oct 14, 2012
Ryan- Which route are you referring to? I can think of a couple routes that fit the bill. It is common practice for a developer to move a bolt to a better placement as a route is being worked, unfortunately not all developers are willing to do this. Another good reason to wait for routes to open up .... Oct 14, 2012
"josh" you have not addressed one of my concerns directly, try again.
What someone puts in doesn't matter but if we were to use your system I have put in plenty and have more than enough experience to have a say.
Thinly disguised threats of violence are still threats of violence.
Can anyone tell us what good red tagging does for climbing? Oct 14, 2012
Nick- let me know if you want to climb at CR when you are back in November. I spend 90% of my climbing time at private crags in Iowa and am always interested in heading to CR. Just stay off the closed projects and wear your climbing shoes .... :) Oct 14, 2012
Will do and since he's asked nicely I shall respect the red tag :) Oct 14, 2012
You really are a dense idiot aren't you?
You clearly have little experience.
I don't value your opinion...and from other post I've seen neither do an awful lot of people.
"josh"...ha! Oct 15, 2012
Man, I sewed this one up nicely. You have represented CO climbers in such a lovely light haven't you "josh".
If you get to DL make sure you lead Acid Rock, classic!
BTW, people might respect you more if you capitalize your name ;) Oct 15, 2012
People might respect you, at all, if you used yours.
josh Oct 15, 2012
I used to, but what fun is that? You are so hostile, find yourself some WI micro-brew and relax.
Capitalization is what separates us from the animals.
Ya know, it is time for a name change, how about "Red Tagger". Yes, I like it. Oct 15, 2012
Delta Bravo...yep that fits for you.
The fun is in not being a coward.
josh Oct 16, 2012
C'mon you can do better than that can't ya? This is like drowning a squirrel in a bucket. Oct 16, 2012
Wow - amazing the heated debates hidden in the deep dark corners of MP! Rhoads, you are as clueless as ever. As others have mentioned already, MOST climbers agree on giving the equipers a reasonable amount of time to finish what they started.
Am I seeing that photo right? It looks like a 15' boulder problem with 4 bolts on it. Oct 19, 2012
Most climbers agreeing doesn't make it right.
In your world, since this is so short, does it qualify for red tag status? Oct 21, 2012
Having a community consensus is part of what makes us a "community" doesn't it? This is an old & tired debate as you already know. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're an outlier and in the minority. I see it as common courtesy to let someone complete the process of a new route experience. How tall a route is does not matter - one person's boulder problem is someone else's Trango Tower. Oct 21, 2012
So, if the "community" agreed that stealing a car was ok, you would agree? Just pointing out that your logic makes no sense ;)
Its this attitude that someone has someone has ownership over a public resource that causes a rift in the community. If people would simply give to the community and demand nothing in return we would all be better off. Oct 21, 2012
"How tall a route is does not matter - one person's boulder problem is someone else's Trango Tower."
An excellent point.
SPLT, red tag, coward, What ever your real name is.
You're a communist? Weird. Don't you know that doesn't work?
Well unless you THINK someone asks you nicely... then you can do whatever you like....according to you.
josh Oct 21, 2012
"Communist"?!?!? This is getting too good! Been watching too much Fox News I think.
If height doesn't matter then why did Glenn make a point of it here: "Am I seeing that photo right? It looks like a 15' boulder problem with 4 bolts on it." And you here: "So we have 3, 100ft traditional routes(did you put in any bolts?) With a minor approach and that may have been climbed before. You spent what an hour "cleaning" them?" So now you are telling me scale doesn't matter?!!? You made such a stink about how much effort you put into your big climb, get your story straight!
"Coward"?!?!? HAHAHA! First, I will bet there's a million "J. Thompson"s out there and they are probably man enough to capitalize "josh". Second, we heard that pathetic insult already, what else you got? Oct 22, 2012
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[kom-yuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state."
Sure sounds an awful lot like your rantings.
You don't get it and you never will. So there is no point in discussing any of it with you.I hope you enjoy being in a community that, as a whole, thinks you are a clueless tool.
josh Oct 22, 2012
Your definition states that all property is owned by the community, this is not the case here. There is private property in our system but the above route lies in public property. If you want to label me a communist that's fine, it's a pretty good idea in theory but public property in our capitalist system is still public property. So, your point doesn't really go anywhere.
As for what people think about me, I couldn't care less. I'm here to present the ideas with rationale and hope that a few lurkers might agree. As for convincing internet blowhards such as yourself, you are a lost cause but people like you certainly aid in presenting how absurd your views are. Thanks for the help! Oct 22, 2012
So I'm the guy that put this climb up, pretty heated slapfest going on here. As I'm a developer with only a few hundred routes installed and countless hours doing work, making trails and paths to limit impact- I paint hangers to look natural and remain unseen. I've met and am friends with a shit ton of other developers that put in the same efforts so climbers that don't do work can have a place to play with little recognition and we usually don't want it but would like a little respect and patience for new route development in any area. I have only met a few dirtball climbers(wolf) that seek out tagged lines and sneak around behind developers backs and then there are the other 99.9% the climbing community that can wait for the line to open and appreciate the gift to the people. Tagged routes are the norm in pretty much every crag I've been to- from the pro's to the newbies, jumping on a tagged line could be bad for your health if the right person rolls up and you are on the wall, your belayer, the 1 holding your life might be saying off belay and running for their life- some take this very seriously as it's their sweat and money and time invested. Apr 8, 2013
Has it been sent yet? Apr 8, 2013
Heh, my argument is made pretty clear above so I don't feel the need to touch on it but for the record I would never personally snip a red tag. I'm simply saying there's alot of people who contribute to the climbing community in a variety of ways, not just by bolting routes. Apr 8, 2013
Finally got back up this project over the weekend, made big progress linking all the moves. Should be open soon, i'm making this a season goal to have finished. Thank you for respecting the tag May 31, 2016
Joel Allen La Crosse, WI
Must be a damn hard project. Been closed for a looong time. Jun 1, 2016
4 years?!?!? I think the Statutes of Limitations has passed man. If I cared, I personally would no longer respect a red tag that old. I mean, thanks for bolting it and cleaning it and spending your resources for the community, but the clock never stopped ticking. Jun 1, 2016
JON, YOU ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO CLIMB THIS ROUTE AND THEREFORE HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT ON THE RED TAG STATUS! Jun 2, 2016
Finally, a statement that doesn't have any bullshit to it. Correct, I am not strong enough to climb it. Jun 2, 2016
Mike Robinson Boulder, CO
god this is classic shit. how strong does one need to be to climb this sick projjjjjj? Jun 8, 2016


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By golly, I�ll just work from the lobby today, I said. And I did although I wouldn�t say I got a lot done. I did get a lot of funny looks, though.
A group of gentlemen came in from the hardware store across the street when they heard about the trick. They brought me doughnuts and sang Happy Birthday.
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Last year my New Year's Eve Resolution was to send more handwritten notes to friends afar. Um, yeah, let me get right to that. Needless to say, it's a resolution still in progress but after finding these fun and adorable sets, who wouldn't want to send a friendly fall note?
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I have a coming back problem that I dont know how to get out from.
If you put this code in the event handler for a richtextBox control and write this on the First line:
1234567890 //This will turn red when you press 0
If you instead right away press enter so you come to the second line in the multilined textBox and write this:
123456789 //Then this will turn red when you press 9
So it seems that it uses the /n next line character as a character.
What I wonder is how this is possible to to solve as I want the code to only count the characters on the current line where the cursor is, so it would be: 1234567890 for all lines.
I use this code in the richtextBox event handler:
int positionen = 0;
positionen = richtextBox1->SelectionStart;
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LSCS will continue to monitor the H1N1 outbreak daily, including over the weekend. In the event one of the LSCS facilities is closed due to a confirmed case, notification will be provided to the media, on the web at http://www.lonestar.edu/, and across our computer system at each of our campuses. The decision to close will be based on information of confirmed or highly probable case(s) and recommendations from local public health agencies, such as, CDC, Texas State Department of Health Services, or Harris County Public Health and Environmental Services (HCPHES).
Monitoring of the H1N1flu outbreak continues by public health professionals around locally and the around the globe. This virus outbreak continues to grow predominately in the Americas (western hemisphere). The alert level as defined by the World Health Organization (WHO) remains at Phase 5 because of ongoing concerns related to the outbreak. A Phase 5 alert "…is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region and this spread is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent…" (WHO, 2009) As of April 30, 2009 there have been 26 laboratory confirmed cases in Texas, four in Texas and one death of a toddler who had been in Mexico, had other complications, and was brought to Houston for treatment. All other reported cases are in various stages of recovery.
Influenza is thought to spread mainly person-to-person through coughing or sneezing of infected people. If you or someone you know should become ill, this individual should stay home from work or school, delay international travel, and limit contact with others. For people developing symptoms following international travel, these individuals should seek medical attention. In addition, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other public health agencies recommend that you contact your healthcare provider. To avoid contracting this type of influenza there are everyday actions we can take to stay healthy:
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to introduce my self and my poor english, i would like to let you know I'm a french student.
I'm working on a card design by renesas moreover I'm using OpenVG.
at the moment i can capture a video signal from a camera with a specific driver, put it on a layer and I screen it on TV screen without problem. I can size up or down, change the colors.
My problem is, i need to draw on this video with OpenVG and EGL. when I put the video on a layer and the draw on the other layer i can't screen both.
so I would like to know how to use a video with OpenVG. are there a specific function or something like that.
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Jan. 15, 2009
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The Schedule
Saturday, Jan. 17, 2009
UC Santa Barbara vs. UC Davis, 12 p.m.
at UCSB's Campus Pool
Take Your Marks...
The UC Santa Barbara swim teams will return to Campus Pool for their first home meet of 2009 when they host Big West Conference opponent UC Davis on Saturday at noon. The Gaucho men carry a 3-1 dual meet record into this weekend's competition while the women are 4-2 in head-to-head action.
Last Saturday, both Gaucho swim teams were defeated by USC. The Gaucho women fell 112-88 to the Pac-10 team and the men dropped their first dual of the season by way of a 120-85 score.
Matsumoto and May Bring Home Weekly Awards
Despite falling to the Trojans last weekend, UCSB swept the Big West Conference's Male and Female Swimmer of the Week awards. Bradley Matsumoto took the men's honor after capturing first place in the 50 freestyle (20.62) and then placing second in the 100 free (45.41), finishing just .01 seconds behind teammate Jeff Sudbury. The senior finished the meet by helping the Gaucho men's 400 free relay (3:01.25) to a season-best time and second place finish. Matsumoto is the first male Gaucho to earn a conference athlete of the week honor this season. On the women's end, Anne Marie May was honored after capturing first place in the 50 free (23.10), which turned out to be the only first place finish by a UCSB female athlete in an individual event during the meet. The junior also anchored the Gauchos' 400 free relay (3:25.37) to a first place finish with a split of 50.02. She posted a split of 49.93 in the anchor leg of the 400 medley relay, an event UCSB finished second in. May has posted back-to-back conference athlete of the week honors after also taking the award during the week of Dec. 10 for her standout performance at the Husky Invitational.
Still Turning In Top Times
Though currently the Gaucho top-times lists from this season are mostly littered with marks from December's Husky Invitational - a meet which most of the swimmers were shaved or tapered for - a few swimmers turned in their best marks of the season last weekend at USC. On the women's side, sophomore Lindsay Gaudinier posted a career-best time - and the third fastest time this season by a Gaucho - of 1:51.44 in the 200 freestyle, while freshman Katie Reeves posted a seaon-best mark of 2:09.86 in the 200 back, just .04 seconds off of her career best time. Brittany Borowitz turned in a time of 2:24.41 in the 200 breast, the fourth best time in that event this season by a Gaucho. On the men's side - in addition to their season-best time in the 400 free relay - Jimmy Gaston posted a season-best 4:41.97 in the 500 free, Spencer Holbrook had a season-best 9:56.95 in the 1000 free and Evan Simoni went 2:08.41 in the 200 breast.
Rank And File
After ranking 24th in the CSCAA Division I dual meet rankings released on Oct. 31, the UCSB men's swim team is now listed as "others receiving votes" in the Dec. 11 poll with 19 votes. The women are also receiving votes - 18 to be exact. Georgia is currently ranked No. 1 on the women's side while Texas holds the top spot for the men.
About The Aggies
The UC Davis women enter this weekend with a 7-8 dual record. The Aggies hosted a double-dual last weekend with San Jose State and Fresno State. They defeated Fresno 229.5-67.5 but fell to San Jose 170-129. This Saturday's meet will mark the Aggie men's first action of the New Year.They were last in action in early December at the Texas Invite where they took fourth place out of 10 teams. The two teams last faced off head-to-head at Davis on Feb. 1, 2008. The Gaucho women defeated the Aggies 170-123 while the men posted a 156-138 dual meet victory.
On The Horizon
Following Saturday's meet, the UCSB men and women will hit the road for their final non-conference dual meet of the season at UNLV on Saturday, Jan. 31.


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DM Music Group should be regarded as a music company rather than a record company. Where a record company is focused on exploiting the recorded product of an artist, a music company aims to exploit the full spectrum of revenue opportunities within the industry.
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I would like to know which sahaba did surat al zamil ayah 9 come down to and why. I also would like to know what surah this ayah..
Wa alaikum assalaam wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh.
We are slightly confused by the question, because there is no surah named zamil, but aayah 9 of surah Az-Zumar (surah 39) is the aayah in the second part of your question, and may be the surah in question in the first part of the question. All aayaat were revealed to the Prophet Muhammed, , but there are some aayaat that had a reason for revelation, meaning a specific occurrence caused the timing of the revelation of an aayah, or it is known from a hadeeth that it was about a certain person.
The translation of the explanation of the meaning of aayah 9 of surah Az-Zumar is: Is one who worships devoutly during the hour of the night prostrating himself or standing (in adoration), who takes heed of the Hereafter, and who places his hope in the Mercy of his Lord - (like one who does not)? Say: "Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition.
Aayah 9 of surah Az-Zumar according to a tradition related by Ibn Abee Haatim was describing 'Uthman bin Affaan, may Allah be pleased with him because of his plentiful night prayers and recitation of the Qur'an, but there are other traditions who name other companions as the one being described. Even if there are traditions that it describes a certain companion, it can apply to many Muslims past and present who spend a great portion of the night in prayer seeking the mercy of Allah and taking heed of the Hereafter.
Wa assalaam


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I'm interested in interning for Sub Pop. Do you have internships available?
Sub Pop loves, loves, loves its interns and we do our best to provide a fun and educationally rewarding experience in a nurturing environment with minimal insults and/or off-color comments.
What's that you say? YOU'D like to intern here at Sub Pop? Well, here's almost everything you need to know and maybe a few things you don't:
You do not need to know a ton about the music biz to intern here. It would be entirely appropriate to have an interest in independent music/labels, smaller press and/or music magazines, college radio, and a bit of knowledge regarding what Sub Pop is all about. (Trust me, we do NOT need you to be some sort of a bizarro historian, as that is actually more irritating than useful.) Our ideal intern would know how to count, use a computer, and maybe even have a writing skill or two. Prior experience is not required but it doesn't hurt either. After all, learning something new is kinda what this whole interning thing is all about.
We all know resumes are pretty ridiculous and packed full of lies and other useless information, but we still want one from you, and we want a good one at that. We are mainly looking for people who are still in college and need to complete an internship as part of their course load, usually in Communications. Why? Because students have a set time-frame for completing an internship (no messy break-ups!), and there is a responsibility for finishing a commitment (no flakers!). Plus, they are usually better looking. In actuality, we often accept interns who are not in school, but these are usually exceptional candidates who are active in the local music community or who have otherwise proven themselves as passionate, trustworthy, and reliable. We want someone who will actually benefit from their time spent here stuffing envelopes, not someone who is just trying to fulfill a requirement. Also, please make sure to indicate which department most interests you so we have a better idea of what you are looking to do. This is important, so don't brush it off. (Just to make this easier I'll let you know that the only possible choices are publicity, radio, international, sales, digital communications, and social media.)
Our internships last about 3 months, or one quarter/semester, and it is VERY IMPORTANT that you understand before you start that INTERNING RARELY, IF EVER, LEADS TO A PERMANENT JOB HERE AT SUB POP. (IT'S BETTER TO JUST THINK NEVER.) Your time here is about learning new skills and having something new for your resume, not about permanent employment. We are always looking for interns, but keep in mind that we rarely have more than 4 or 5 at a time and that we usually use more interns during the spring and summer months. It is best to try to set up an internship anywhere from 1-3 months ahead of time, but please don't email or call every day to see if we've made a decision. It's super annoying and it will most likely make your resume end up in the trash somehow. (That's a life lesson, people—-write that one down.)
Interning is somewhat of a thankless job that is historically tied to fetching coffee for the head honchos, but I want you to know that we already have someone who gets us our coffee and her name is Rosie. Most of your time interning will be spent helping out with mailings (i.e., stuffing envelopes), finding and scanning press clippings, making one-sheets and/or press updates, counting buttons/stickers, making CDRs, and updating databases and project reports. Glamorous? No. Mildly interesting? Yes!
Still interested? Send your resume to us at firstname.lastname@example.com. Here's a pro tip, please name your resume files with your name. Files simply called "resume" tend to get lost.
What is your demo policy? How do I submit my music?
If you would like us to hear your music, please, share it to our email account at email@example.com. PLEASE DO NOT SEND AUDIO FILES TO THIS ADDRESS, simply send links to your audio hosted elsewhere on the cyberweb. In an effort to discourage physical waste and overflowing email inboxes, this will now be the only way in which Sub Pop will accept unsolicited demos.
Please don't call or email to follow up; if we want to reach you, we will. It is extremely rare that a band gets signed on the strengths of a demo alone so our best advice to you is to keep playing out, build a fan base, tour, and get your name out there; these are the things that will bring label representatives to your shows and this is what will help you get a record deal. Good luck!
PS – This is not the place to leave a comment with a link to your band's Facebook page. Aside from having very little chance to attract our attention, the links can mess up the comments section on the front page of the website. Which just means that we have to delete them.
Please see the "best advice" above, it really is sage! Thanks.
I'd love to work for Sub Pop, do you have any positions available?
Unfortunately, Sub Pop is currently overflowing with employees. But fear not! Send us a resume to email@example.com, and we'll keep it on file, in case a vacancy happens. We appreciate your interest in working at Sub Pop. We love what we do and we're glad you do, too.
Film Festivals/Student Music Licensing
For starters, I'd like to invite you to read this article written by Bart Day for a quick and simple primer on how licensing works. After that, I'd like you to read this one on the Stanford Universities Libraries site regarding the actual rules for fair use. (PRO TIP: Read the whole thing.)
A one year, worldwide festivals only sync license for a Sub Pop artist will run you $500 total, half of which goes to pay for the publishing rights you'll need to license, and the other half of which goes to Sub Pop to pay for the master recording rights. Sub Pop can only license the master use rights to you (unless you are requesting a band we publish as well), so you will also need to contact the band's publisher or management to fully clear the use. I want to stress that this fee is for Film Festivals and/or non-commercial uses only, and it does not automatically include online rights of any kind.
If you'd like to request a festival license please send an email to either firstname.lastname@example.com and include as much information about your project as possible including the rights and terms requested, film budget, music budget, etc. Most bands will want to view the scene in question so it helps to send a password protected link to view the scene with your initial request.
Can I use [name of song released by Sub Pop] in my podcast?
For your non-commercial podcast, you may use of any of the tracks we offer for free download from our website. A convenient place to retrieve the 20 most recently offered freely download-able tracks from Sub Pop is through our digital sampler, available here and updated monthly.
This use is revocable at any time, for any reason, by us. In the meantime, have at it!


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All but 14 of the 174 dogs seized by Cass County sheriff's deputies July 10 from a Wheatland breeder have been released from a Casselton animal clinic and sent to foster homes, a sheriff's department spokeswoman said Thursday.
The 14 dogs still need foster homes, said Sgt. Tara Morris. The others were distributed through 4 Luv of Dog animal rescue and other area animal organizations to homes throughout the region.
Morris said the Casselton Veterinary Clinic had calculated that the cost of caring for the dogs since their seizure had topped $100,000.
An estimated $33,000 has been raised by a public fund established for the dogs' care. It will be applied to offset the cost of care, Morris said. The clinic plans to waive the remainder of the cost, she said.
Darcy Smith, the dogs' owner, has asked for a court hearing to determine whether his dogs can be returned to him. The hearing is set for Tuesday.
In a brief filed in Cass County District Court this week, Cass County prosecutors said the dogs were kept without access to food or water, and without air conditioning or ventilation in hot conditions.
The brief also said the dogs were kept in kennels saturated with urine and feces that, with inadequate grooming, culminated in severe matting.


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I am using a timer-based animation to animate three 3dobjects. I have used a dispatcher timer for this purpose, and within the timer task method I have called my 3Dobject creation method thrice. Right below that and within the same Timer task method I have included a set of statements that generates new position for the objects.
For example,
private void timertask(object sender, EventArgs e)
createsolid(x[0], y[0], z[0]); ->this creates the first cube w.r.t x,y,z positions
createsolid(x[1], y[1], z[1]);
createsolid(x[2], y[2], z[2]);
for(int i=0;i<4;i++)
x[i] = update_x[i];
y[i] = update_y[i];
z[i] = update_z[i];
So, everytime the timer is triggered(currently set to trigger 10 times a second), the cubes are created in a new updated position(very slow though). But the problem I face right now that I could not delete the cubes in old positions. Thus, it leaves a whole trail of cubes when the timer progresses. I want to delete the cube in old position when the cube is created for the new position. Or I would like to use some repaint method or something that just allows me to create the cubes just once and after that it should just allow me to move the cube according to the new positions generated in time.
Basically, I just want all the 3D objects to move according to the new positions generated and should form a simple animation till the timer stops.
Just one humbe request. I am a beginner to graphics programming and please go easy on me. I would greatly appreciate a striaght forward answer with syntax or examples. Links are welcome too, but I don't need solutions in xaml. I am working completely on C#.


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December 13 – Holiday Travel
Did you or your ancestors travel anywhere for Christmas? How did you travel and who traveled with you? Do you remember any special trips?
Living in Minnesota, it's always chancy traveling during the winter months. Snow and ice can be treacherous for driving, and the cold is dangerous if your car breaks down. As I was growing up, flying was an unaffordable luxury for my family, so most years we stayed home. I do remember on a few occasions going to my grandparents' house in Yankton, South Dakota. That was about a four hour drive.
This and all other articles on this blog are © copyright 2011 by Daniel G. Dillman


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Uncanny Avengers #10 (Gandhi didn't have the power Spoilers)
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by Punchy » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:16 pmIt seems weird to say this about a title that combines both of Marvel's biggest franchises and is the flagship of Marvel Now, but I really think that Uncanny Avengers is underrated. Seriously, nobody is talking about it. The only time it caused any serious discussion was when Rick Remender had the temerity to interpret a metaphor differently than Comics Alliance. When really, what we should be talking about is how Remender is telling a story with a huge epic scale, whilst also keeping things close and personal to the characters, all the while exploring that Mutant metaphor in interesting new ways and having crazy shit happen. Plus, Acuna art!
This latest issue picked up where the last one left off, the Uncanny Avengers have broken off into 2 factions, one lead by Wolverine, the other by Captain America, and the Apocalypse Twins' new Horsemen are after them I really loved the revelation here that the reason Cap snapped on Wolverine last time out was due to the fact that he only just came back from Dimension Z recently, that he's actually aged 10 years without anyone noticing. I haven't been reading Remender's run on Cap, but I'm kind of regretting it now.
I also liked getting a greater insight into Wonder Man's new pacifist ideals, it's certainly an interesting way to go with a superhero, has it ever been done before? I don't think so? Wolverine's torture of Ozymandias was also pretty bad-ass.
But the main thing here is the attacks from the Horsemen, as each of them in turn attacks the Avengers. This could get a little repetitive, but the personal nature of each of these dead characters stops it from being so. All of these Horsemen were either killed by a member of this Avengers team, or by a relative of them, so when Wolverine has to come face to face with Daken again, or Wonder Man with his brother, or Thor with Sentry, you know it's going to be big and emotional. I think my favourite moment in this issue was Thor's fight with Sentry inside the Apocalypse Twins' pocket universe. I just love the insane cosmic scale of Remender's story, that the Twins have an entire Universe as their secret base, it's crazy, and the kind of stuff only comics can do.
I really think more people need to be talking about this title, it's Remender's X-Force on crack and with Thor. I know it's not an underdog title like X-Force was, but still, it's awesome, and totally not offensive to anyone anymore, I swear.
by Grayson » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:55 pmAs much as I have been enjoying this series so far, it amazes me that Remender doesn't seem capable of writing a decent Rogue. Like, at all. His Rogue is terrible. I like the concept of Rogue being on an Avenger team but not if this is the version of Rogue that we are going to get.
Aside from that, this was another enjoyable issue of the series. The art is what it has been since Daniel Acuña took over as the regular series artist. Personally, I can't wait until Steve McNiven takes over.
by TimDrake'sDumbWings » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:57 pmI wasn't really impressed with this issue. Lots of hokey (Really? Thor asking Oxymandias to sign for a hammer package?)
However, Remender was firing on all cylinders from issues 6 to 9, and the plans that he revealed during ComicCon interviews sound incredible, so I have high hopes for the book's future!
by Garofani Spruzzo » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:00 pm
You don't really know what crack is, do you?
by Punchy » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:30 am
No, but that's a good thing.
Saying something is 'INSERT WHATEVER on crack' is a common phrase.
by chap22 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:25 amI love the story Remender's telling. it's huge. it feels daunting. the heroes are already up to their necks in bad, bad shit and I don't know how they'll get out.
now if only plot was all that a story required...
because Jesus CHRIST the characterization and interpersonal dynamics in this book are so sophomoric and irritatingly grating that it makes the book a chore to read. Wanda and Havok's interaction this issue? cheesy. Rogue all of a sudden crushing on over-protective Thor...wut? and Rogue's general completely shrewy bitchiness to everyone else? blargh. the only thing that felt close to "real" was Jan and Cap's conversation (which even that verged on over-the-top) and Wolvy's description of Sunfire to Ozymandias. everything else was crap.
by TimDrake'sDumbWings » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:51 am
Yeah, Remender seems to think we want to see all possible banging combinations play out. It seems like Cap/Wanda, Wanda/Simon, Alex/Wanda, Alex/Janet, and Rogue/Thor have all been teased in the past few issues. The only one of these relationships I'd be vaguely interested in reading is Alex/Janet, and that's only because it would give Alex something to do besides flounder.
by Rikk Odinson » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:32 pm
I don't really get all the hype about this guy. He's a decent enough comics writer but that's about it.
by TimDrake'sDumbWings » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:34 pm
He bought A LOT of good will with Venom and Uncanny X-Force. Venom was a great way to revitalize a tired concept, and Uncanny X-Force was damn near perfect with the exception of Otherworld.
by Rikk Odinson » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:39 pm
Didn't read Venom and I agree about X-Force. It was good, for the most part.
by chap22 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:31 pm
agreed. and I absolutely <3 his Cap run. but everything else I've read that he's written beyond those three books...meh. at best meh.
by superfictious » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:38 pmKind of how I've felt about Fraction's Marvel work not including Hawkeye or Iron Fist.
by TimDrake'sDumbWings » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:20 pm
I read the first two issues of his Cap and loved it, but I thought it might be best to wait for word-of-mouth and Comixology sales. JRJr is killing it there, though. I think Dean White is part of the reason his art is looking so damn good.
by chap22 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:55 pm
huh. if anything his art is the weak link on that book IMMO.
by Grayson » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:03 pm
Agreed. I love that book but I can't wait for Pacheco to take over as the artist.
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Truro Cathedral, in Cornwall, not Nova Scotia.
With all it's shed loads of Phd genius hordes and mountains of tax avoided cash stashed in Caribbean Island, banks. It still cannot tell that I like in Truro, Cornwall, UK, rather than Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada.
A quick search for Wolf of Wall St. revealed it thinks I would be interested in watching the movie on a different continent, thousands of miles away. I am sure Novia Scotia has fine cinemas, but the travel costs may negate any pleasure I get from the movie. Although considering the topic, perhaps it would be in keeping if I dropped a grand to go watch a movie.
I have given Google lots of clues. my G+ account is Cornwall, my blog, which my G+ account is tied with has Cornwall in the domain name, my emails are laden with keywords about Cornwall and I know they are looking at my emails (OK the bot is) as they track my advertising delivery.
I understand the technology in place is not yet sophisticated enough to understand I don't need to see a cinema listing located thousands of miles away and that the argument may be there is just not any other content worthy of my attention regarding these keywords. But I don't buy that.
If you are going to track then track correctly. I am not one of the tin foil hat wearers who is worried about Google tracking me, I am only worried that they are not explicit about how they are tracking me and their intentions. But I know others are worried about an American corporation with possible links to the NSA.
I'm not worried, as they can't even figure out which continent I live on.
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Gemini needed a new logo design and created a contest on 99designs.
A winner was selected from 129 designs submitted by 39 freelance designers.
Take current logo and make it look like a Real logo
Cards 4 Musicians
Cards 4 Musicians is a greeting cards company specializing in greeting cards 4 musicians.
Real stencil and spray paint - the lighting is poor and the image is still way to stiff, but it's good a reference for what real spay paint looks like:
Reference Images: (please do not include ".com" in the logo - website will not be as big a part of the business at first)
- There is a greeting card outline incorporated in the logo so the viewer can see the product is a greeting card and not some other type of card (business, credit, membership, etc) 4 musicians.
- Vector Based - for flexibility
- Concept - Mainly I would like to see the logo as if it were spray painted using a stencil (like how bands mark their traveling cases), but I would also like to see you concepts that incorporate the greeting card outline
- Color - Black and white for the spray paint look (maybe a neon color). And other colors are fine if you are submitting your own concept
- Clear Font - Even if the look is spray paint the font needs to be clear. Current font is Gun Play (a stencil font)
- There are no references to specific musical instruments because these are cards for all musicians
- The cards should not have musical notes as they do not play music when you open them and people might expect them to
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The cloud of controversy hanging over the start of NASCAR's Chase for the Cup title playoff continues to linger.
Three days after NASCAR slammed Michael Waltrip Racing with massive penalties for allegedly cheating at Saturday's race at Richmond (Va.) International Raceway to help an MWR driver get in the Chase, another issue surfaced from that race involving Chase contender Joey Logano.
Associated Press and some other media outlets suggested that the teams of Logano and David Gilliland might have conspired to let Logano pass Gilliland near the end of the race to ensure Logano would make the Chase.
The Richmond race was the last race to determine which 12 drivers qualified for the 10-race Chase that starts Sunday at Chicagoland Speedway.
Logano drives for Penske Racing, and Gilliland, who did not make the Chase, drives for the small team of Front Row Motorsports. But both drive Fords.
NASCAR issued a statement Wednesday saying it was aware of the reports "and is looking into it, but has yet to see anything in full context that requires any action."
Seemingly that was the end of the story. Except it wasn't.
NASCAR issued another statement Thursday morning saying it "is continuing to gather all the facts" from the Richmond race and would not comment further "until all the facts have been examined."
That doesn't mean more penalties are coming. But the statement clearly indicated that NASCAR was not done investigating whether there was additional wrongdoing.
Penske Racing President Tim Cindric said there wasn't. Cindric told SiriusXM NASCAR Radio that "there's no conspiracy, there's no bribe" in the Logano situation and that team owner "Roger Penske is not involved in trying to manipulate the outcome of a race."
The penalties against Waltrip's team resulted in the unprecedented step of removing MWR driver Martin Truex Jr. from the Chase field and replacing him with Ryan Newman, who drives for Stewart-Haas Racing.
All of this was happening as the Chase contenders arrived in Chicago for media day to kick off the championship playoff. Stay tuned.


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Syrian troops battle rebels near Aleppo and Damascus
BEIRUT – Syrian government forces bombed rebel positions from the ground and air in the northern city of Aleppo on Friday as protesters across the country appealed for anti-aircraft guns for opposition fighters to offset the regime's increasing use of aerial attacks.
The relentless violence triggered a fresh wave of civilians streaming across the border into neighboring Turkey to escape the civil war in their country. In New York, U.N. diplomats said the search was on for another envoy to replace Kofi Annan who gave up trying to broker peace in Syria.
The diplomats said former Algerian foreign affairs minister and longtime U.N. official Lakhdar Brahimi is a strong candidate to take over from Annan, who is leaving by the end of the month. The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.
Annan, a former U.N. chief, announced his resignation last week as joint U.N.-Arab League envoy to Syria, ending a frustrating six-month effort that failed to achieve even a temporary cease-fire as the conflict in the country descended into a full-out civil war.
The search for Annan's replacement suggested the international community was not entirely giving up on diplomacy to try end the conflict that has claimed the lives of at least 20,000 people, according to human rights activists.
Rebels and activists in Aleppo said they have had enough of diplomacy and appealed Friday for weapons from the international community.
"The warplanes and helicopters are killing us, they're up there in the sky 15 hours a day," said Mohammad al-Hassan, an activist in Aleppo's main rebel stronghold of Salaheddine.
"It's warplanes against Kalashnikovs, tanks fighting against rifles," he said. "I don't know how long this situation can be sustained."
The regime has been trying to drive rebels out of Aleppo, Syria's largest city, for more than two weeks. But the blistering attacks on rebel positions from the ground and air appear to be only slowly chipping away at the opposition's grip on its strongholds.
The state news agency claimed Wednesday that Assad's force had regained control of the Salaheddine neighborhood, the main rebel area in Aleppo. But activists said rebels were still putting up a fight there on Friday despite being low on ammunition.
Aleppo holds great symbolic and strategic importance. Some 25 miles from the Turkish border, it has been a pillar of regime support during the uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime. An opposition victory there would allow easier access for weapons and fighters from Turkey, where many rebels are based.
An Aleppo-based activist who goes by the name of Abu Issa said government forces were shelling rebel-controlled areas in the southwestern part of Aleppo and in the northeast. Towns and villages in Aleppo suburbs were "at the mercy" of fighter jets and helicopters strafing the area, he said.
"Soon there will be nothing left to destroy in Aleppo ... The regime is using air power without shame," said Abu Issa, who was not using his real name for fear for his own safety.
Protesters across many parts of the country rallied after midday prayers Friday, urging the international community to arm the opposition fighters.
"Give us with anti-aircraft guns. Where is your conscience?" read a small poster held by a protester in the village of Kfar Zeita in the central Hama province.
Underscoring the world community's reluctance to arm the fighters -- a loosely linked group of rebel forces and army defectors -- Britain's government said Friday it is giving an extra $7.8 million worth of aid to Syria's opposition but no weapons.
Foreign Secretary William Hague said the funds would pay for items including satellite phones, power generators and medical kits. He said diplomats would also intensify contacts with the political wing of the Free Syrian Army as concern grows over the country's possible fate if President Bashar Assad's regime is deposed.
Britain has previously given $2.2 million worth of nonlethal support to Syria's opposition. The United States has earmarked a fund of $25 million to spend on nonlethal communications assistance.
Turkish officials said more than 1,500 Syrians arrived over the past 24 hours, increasing the number of refugees in Turkey to about 51,500.
The activists with the Observatory and the Local Coordination Committees also reported shelling Friday of several areas just outside Damascus, where rebels also were active. Residents reported hearing loud blasts in Damascus from the shelling on the outer edges of the city, according to the activists.
Syrian troops say they have purged the rebels from the capital after intense, week-long battles last month. But opposition fighters continue to stage hit-and-run attacks and are active in the suburbs around the city.


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The nighttime is the right time … for spraying peanuts? Short peanut rotations are putting a cap on yields in many peanut fields, but research being conducted by University of Georgia plant pathologist Tim Brenneman has shown that nighttime applications of white mold fungicides — either two or four applications, depending on the fungicide program — have helped to boost yields by more than 1,000 pounds per acre in fields with poor rotations or heavy soilborne diseases.
"The big difference is spray penetration," says Brenneman. "The peanut canopy later in the season is often very dense with the leaves interlocking. It is very difficult for fungicides to penetrate the canopy and get to the soil where they're needed to control soilborne diseases like white mold.
"If we look at those same canopies at night, the leaves are folded through the canopy, and the fungicide penetrates to the soil where it is needed to control white mold."
This marks the second full year of research into nighttime spraying in Georgia, he says. "We thought about it a number of years ago, but disease pressure was light at the time and the results were inconclusive.
"Then, we were traveling in Nicaragua and some of the growers there were spraying Folicur at night, in a tropical environment with a lot of heat units and humidity. The growers there said the nighttime sprays allowed the fungicide to go down through the canopy and into the soil."
This past year was a good one for heavy white mold pressure, says Brenneman. In trials conducted in 2007, the difference in spraying during the day and at night literally was the difference between night and day, he adds. "The results were phenomenal. We sprayed Folicur and Abound, using the same sprayers, the same timing, and the same formulations, so there was no difference in input costs."
This year, in addition to the university trials, there are grower trials in about six locations, he says. The nighttime sprays should be those in a growers' block program that specifically are for soilborne diseases, either two or four applications depending on the individual program.
Brenneman has sprayed the fungicides in his trials at 5:30 a.m., but he feels the applications would be just as successful applied anytime at night. This year, he is comparing evening applications after the leaves have folded versus the early morning applications that he made in 2007.
"The difference in the evening is that the leaves are usually dry compared to leaves that have some dew on them in the early morning," says Brenneman.
"So we will have a folded wet leaf in the morning compared to the evening application after dark when we'll have a folded dry leaf. I don't know if this will make a difference, but we're looking at it this year. All of the data generated last year was in the early morning hours, but I feel the big difference for success will be having the leaves folded up."
The more trouble a grower has controlling soilborne diseases — which are usually related to poorly rotated fields — the more likely a grower is to see a response to nighttime fungicide applications, says the pathologist.
"If a grower has moderate disease pressure or is getting good disease control by spraying in the day, then the grower isn't likely to see much of a difference with nighttime spraying. But if a grower is in a situation where he is getting poor white mold control and he isn't satisfied with the results of his disease program, then getting the fungicide down through the canopy and to the soil should improve white mold control," says Brenneman.
Night applications, he adds, should be more effective in dryland situations than in irrigated fields because irrigation or a timely rain can help move fungicides down into the soil to improve white mold control. It is a common practice, he says, to irrigate to move a fungicide into the soil.
University researchers would prefer to have several years of data for any practice before making an official recommendation, says Brenneman, but they made an exception with nighttime spraying of peanut fungicides.
"We struggled with how to approach this. Some growers had terrible problems with white mold last year, and we were looking for a way to help them. This is not something for every grower in Georgia, but based on my research last year, it might be a valuable thing to consider if you have trouble with soilborne diseases," he says.
There also may be even more of a response in reducing underground white mold incidence with nighttime fungicide applications, he says.
A systemic fungicide to control leafspot is important when making nighttime applications to get good leafspot control when the leaves are folded up, he says. Chlorothalonil is not a systemic fungicide.


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Brazil and Venezuela win gold in Uruguay
Argentina's Ana Gallay-Virginia Zonta won their match against Orquidea Vera-Frankelina Rodrigues 2-0 (21-16, 21-9) in the women's competition. In the second semifinal Brazil's Elize-Fernanda defeated Colombia's Andrea-Claudia Galindo 2-0 (21-11, 21-16).
The women's final between Argentina and Brazil got off to an interesting start with Brazil's blocking definitely its best weapon. Argentina tried to do its best but with Elize serving, Brazil got a three point lead allowing the team to win 21-18.
In the second set Brazil got an important lead of four points 7-3 but Argentina showed its might with Zonta blocking and digging to equal the score 7-7. A block from Gallay put Argentina in the lead 12-11 but Brazil recovered and after a fighting for each point Elize-Fernanda secured victory with a score of 29-27.
In her remarks after the match Elize said, "Argentina has a great team and it was a hard match, but this time we played better. We have been playing together for three months, we are friends and that helps us in the field. We are very happy playing together and as I have greater experience in beach volleyball, I talk a lot. She (Fernanda) is a great athlete and likes to learn, to train and that helps me."
In the men's competition, Chilean cousins, Marcos and Esteban Grimalt took the first semi-final 2-0 (21-15, 21-16) against Brazil's Daniel-Leonardo, Venezuela's Jackson Henriquez--Leonardo Colina won their semi-final match against Mauricio Brizuela- Luis Riveros from Paraguay. The Paraguayans had defeated the host team of Rodriguez-Williman in the quarter-finals.
The men's final between Henriquez-Colina from Venezuela and Chile's Grimalt cousins ended with a 2-0 win (22-20, 21-14) for the Venezuelans.
The Venezuelan duo got off to an early start on account of their excellent spiking and took the first two point lead 18-16 with a dig from Colina that saw the ball finish on the other side of the net. Chile recovered 19-19 but Venezuela managed to close the set 22-20. Henriquez-Colina managed to get a quick lead in the second set with Henriquez serving. They managed to widen the point difference against the cousins who made some non-forced errors. Although the Grimalt cousins fought valiantly they were unable to the close the gap.


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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – Christian Therkelsen became the first player in the history of the men's soccer program and fourth MIT athlete to earn ESPN Academic All-America First Team honors for three consecutive years. The senior forward joins Duane Stevens '98 (football), Uzoma Orji '06 (track and field), and Julia Zimmerman '09 (women's gymnastics) in this elite accomplishment.
Therkelsen received the 13th award for the men's soccer team and extended the Engineers' run of six consecutive years with at least one honoree. MIT's institutional tally now stands at 165, maintaining its position as the leader among Division III programs. Earlier this month, fellow classmate and captain Joey DeRosa was tabbed to the All-District Second Team.
Therkelsen is the second men's soccer player in Institute history to collect First-Team accolades four years in a row. He registered a team-high eight assists to go along with four goals for 16 points. Therkelsen closed his career placing second in points (99), third in goals (37), and fourth in assists (25). During his sophomore campaign, he set the Institute record for points in a season with 40.
Pursuing degrees in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in addition to Economics, Therkelsen is a three-time NEWMAC Academic All-Conference selection. A former research assistant at MIT's Intelligent Transportation Systems Lab, he created a traffic simulation model to analyze and predict traffic congestion that was used by the Beijing Transportation Research Center. Therkelsen also developed and debugged a model of road network in Lower Westchester County, N.Y., which was implemented by the New York State Department of Transportation to study morning traffic into New York City. He also completed internships with Deutsche Bank and Weiss Asset Management.
DeRosa anchored a defense that set the Institute record for fewest goals in a season (13) and led the NEWMAC in goals against average (0.82). He has played in 64 of MIT's 67 games with 54 starts and posted the first goal and assist of his career this season. A Chemical Engineering major, DeRosa is an MIT Science and Technology Initiative Ambassador and served as the President of Phi Sigma Kappa. As a research assistant at MIT's Earth Resources Laboratory, he profiled global and U.S. natural gas markets for the MIT energy resource report. DeRosa also projected natural gas availability and developed a preliminary report for the interdisciplinary MIT study on natural gas. During his summer internship at Reykjavik Energy in Iceland, he reviewed methods of treating hydrogen sulfide gas emission from geothermal plants in Iceland and authored a report discussing removal measures for geothermal power plant emissions.
Returning to Cambridge, DeRosa was a research assistant at the Biotechnology Process Engineering Center where he retrieved and analyzed bioreactor samples in an experiment to determine the mechanism by which a strain of bacteria removes sulfur compounds from crude oil. He then spent this past summer working for Iberdola, S.A., an international electricity utility in Madrid, Spain, where he developed short and long-term electric vehicle business strategies with the Corporate Innovation Team.


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I had similar issues with MR on my trip North and evaluating my last East Coast sail just setting of from Tweed heading South was far more relaxing by not checking in with them.
The MR have many very dedicated people in their orginazation Unfortunatley 9 out of ten have no idea what is involved in single handing a small SV.
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WSU Fires Basketball Coach Ken Bone
Washington State has fired men's basketball coach Ken Bone after five seasons during which he was unable to sustain the success of his predecessor Tony Bennett.
Washington State athletic director Bill Moos announced the firing Tuesday. Bone was 80-86 in five seasons at Washington State and just 29-61 in the Pac-12. He failed to reach the NCAA tournament during his tenure on the Palouse, and was not able to sustain the success the program had under Bennett, who left after the 2009 season to take the top job at Virginia. Bone had taken Portland State to the NCAA tournament the two previous seasons, a goal he was never able to achieve with the Cougars.
Bone was in the fifth year of a seven-year contract.


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