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Favorite record?
Life beyond the Grave: 1992 - 1994 (Demos)
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Facta Loquuntur (Final Edition)
[ 142 ]
Asgardsrei (Remixed/Remastered)
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[ 9 ]
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Raubritter/Grimmige Volksmusik
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Der Fünfzehnjährige Krieg
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:35 pm
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NK7 wrote:
Humus wrote:
I think they gained more popularity with their 'actions' than with their music.
Obviously so. Let's face it, those first two albums + demos are amateurish, sloppy crappola German bm that nobody would have ever given two shits about were it not for the band members' highly heroic & aryan slaughter of a 100 lbs pre-teen. Not to mention that pathetic "EURONYMOUS WANTED TO SIGN US!!1!1" desperate tryhard publicity stunt that no one ever bought anyway, sure the dwarf might have replied their fan letters once or twice but that doesn't imply he actually liked that worthless junk of a Thuringian Rubbish demo (though he might have claimed he enjoyed it just like he did with virtually every band contacted him -we all know honesty wasn't exactly the guy's main strength).
Totenlieder and Blutgericht are a completely different issue though: solid and properly performed metal that ranks among the best releases to ever come from that shithole of Turks and gay activists commonly referred to as "Germany". It's kind of odd that such excellent albums are regularly ignored -or at least less frequently mentioned- by the fanboys of this band as they're clearly much better than Facta/Asgradsreich -or whatever that pile of crap is called.
I think Absurd's output is talentless shit all the way through their entire discography and that's almost an accomplishment considering how different the albums sound from each other!
Dämonenblut - Lieder des Hasses (tape)
Dämonenblut - Menschenfresser (tape)
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:54 am
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Blutkvlt wrote:
It's the Supreme Art re-issue. Bonus track, not as a part of the regular album. No idea why it was only on this release, I think it's a great track.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:15 pm
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Asgard wrote:
NK7 wrote:
Humus wrote:
I think they gained more popularity with their 'actions' than with their music.
Obviously so. Let's face it, those first two albums + demos are amateurish, sloppy crappola German bm that nobody would have ever given two shits about were it not for the band members' highly heroic & aryan slaughter of a 100 lbs pre-teen. Not to mention that pathetic "EURONYMOUS WANTED TO SIGN US!!1!1" desperate tryhard publicity stunt that no one ever bought anyway, sure the dwarf might have replied their fan letters once or twice but that doesn't imply he actually liked that worthless junk of a Thuringian Rubbish demo (though he might have claimed he enjoyed it just like he did with virtually every band contacted him -we all know honesty wasn't exactly the guy's main strength).
Totenlieder and Blutgericht are a completely different issue though: solid and properly performed metal that ranks among the best releases to ever come from that shithole of Turks and gay activists commonly referred to as "Germany". It's kind of odd that such excellent albums are regularly ignored -or at least less frequently mentioned- by the fanboys of this band as they're clearly much better than Facta/Asgradsreich -or whatever that pile of crap is called.
I think Absurd's output is talentless shit all the way through their entire discography and that's almost an accomplishment considering how different the albums sound from each other!
Since when is black metal talented anyway?
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:47 am
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Saw Absurd in 2008 in Belgium with Der Stürmer (both great gigs), but didn't know too much of their music. Now, I finally checked out some more stuff and from what I heard I seem to mostly like Facta Loquuntur (even if only for Pesttanz!) and Totenlieder.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:40 pm
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I only hail them when they were murderers. Hendrik and Sebastian are the only members who should be in this band. Not this cover line-up they have nowadays. Bring back the killers!
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:00 am
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obscureinfinity wrote:
Since when is black metal talented anyway?
a lot of the time
Blutkvlt wrote:
I am ready to Graveland.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:21 am
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I voted for last one... actually i am not the biggest fan of the band... but i tryed many times listen pre 2001 stuff and it was pretty unlistanable.. as for after 2001 i just was checking it few times(expect last split), mostly didnt worked, though few songs was good. maybe i will check it again later.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:11 am
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Carlzilla wrote:
Facta Loquuntur is my favorite.
Ough wrote:
Obviously, Show No Mercy is still the greatest recording ever.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:33 am
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Perverted Necrofucker wrote:
DTBRex wrote:
I can't find that (Wolfsmond)-interview with him anymore, where he spoke about his change of heart/mind... Afaik, he's now preaching this wannabe-nihilism/misanthropy of "hating all humans equally" blabla. Quite a disappointment, I'd say. But makes him fit and proper for the company of his metalbrother-friends, I may add.
What´s the problem ? As long as he doesn´t hop hand in hand with Wolf Rüdiger Mühlmann and scum like this through the meadows...
Why not let him do as he pleases ? He still seems to make great Black Metal like with Wolfsmond. If he doesn´t feel like propagating that he´s the hardest Ns-shark in the world he just doesn´t fell it, so what ?
A While ago I received mail from Schatten from Wolfsmond, who not only had some remarks about the review of the (excellent) Wolfsmond album ?Des Düsterwaldes Reigen?, but mostly about the comment that Wolfsmond was an NSBM act. In stead of hatemail, a conversation grew in which Schatten proved to be a person well worth talking/mailing to.
At a moment I wrote to him that many sources on the web and elsewhere pointed towards the NSBM-corner, and that perhaps a good way to get rid off that was doing interviews, so that people could read it from the musicians themselves in stead of gossiping old ladies and prejudiced journalists. With Schatten I had an interview about his past, present and views, which is well worth reading to all those who care about paganism, music and people thinking for themselves. Enjoy it!
A personal note from Schatten himself: Keep in mind: First of all, these are my points of view. So the answers I give reflect my attitudes. Although we are one band and we know the thoughts of each other, I only speak for myself!
It took me some research to find out more about Wolfsmond; every piece of info I could find describes the band as NSBM. Labels/distributors that claim to release NSBM like ?Blut und Eisen? and ?Vinland Winds? strengthen those impressions. Yet you very strongly mailed me that Wolfsmond was not NSBM, so? How did you wind up at those sites: is it because those are the only ones to support you, and others wish to stay away from you and Wolfsmond? Or is it something a band does not control?
Schatten: ?For sure one reason is my past ? many people who hear about Wolfsmond guess it must be NSBM because I have been into this some time ago. It seems as if they were not able to use their brains; when you look at our answers given in interviews and when you look at our lyrics you?ll find out that there is no relation to any political idea at all. (By the way, I don?t see ?Blut & Eisen? as a NSBM label ...) The question is: what does a band make part of the NSBM scene? Taking a look to the Resistance Records site it seems as if they don?t know any other kind of Black Metal. But Wolfsmond have never been using NS phrases in the lyrics and we also gave no political statements.?
Apart from that, there is always the strong link with Absurd because you were in it, and Unhold. Absurd is a band with a certain reputation so to say. The tributes have also been praised as NSBM?
Schatten: ?I know that tributes have been praised as NSBM ? at the time of ?Asgardsrei? I still have been in touch with NS ideology so I cannot wonder why tributes were paid by NSBM bands. Nevertheless, this is the past and not the present; ignoring this means ignoring my personal development. I don?t know why Absurd today are still seen as NSBM ? maybe they don?t care at all. But as far as I know they don?t use NS phrases in their lyrics or something like this ? So, could Unhold be called ?Nazi? because he is playing in a band that has been somehow near to NS in the past? Anyway, since I started my studies in Political Science, I recognized that politics are always the same, not depending of what color they are.?
On the other hand; it is quite easy to accuse a German black metal band, due to something that happened over 60 years ago. After all, when it comes down to bands singing in other Germanic languages, like Norwegian or Dutch for instance, people will not make that accusation that fast. I can even recall a demo from German Allvaters Zorn on which they felt that they had to claim on the cover that Allvaters Zorn does not play NSBM; a kind of reversed burden of proof so to say? Is it perhaps a sign of biased press: anything black metal, typical German and dealing with pagan subjects must be NSBM?
Schatten: ?It is (in my opinion) very easy to accuse a band playing NSBM (or another kind of NS music ? I think of Weissglut for instance). A German band that uses to sing in its own language and that doesn?t use each opportunity to point out how anti-NS the musicians are is really endangered to be accused that way. Those people who see the heathen/pagan heritage of Europe as something that belongs to NS (maybe even without the ancient roots) have neither understood heathendom, nor National Socialism. This (NS) is no invention of Hitler (or those men who paved the way for him) as well as it is no invention of Mussolini. Looking back in history we must accept that NS has ever been there since the beginning of political communities, the beginning of states. Of course it was the time of the 3rd Reich which gave the term ?NS? its sinister, almost brutal sound. But NS means nothing more than a kind of Socialism that is limited to the people of one nation and therefore it is the basis for setting this nation above the others ? with the right to exploit, enslave and even destroy those others. When the Nazis wanted to be sure their Reich would work (and not fail) it was quite necessary that they could reach the soul (the collective subconscious) of the German people. The archetypes (not too long gone) were our Gods, which means the Gods of our ancestors, grown with the people over thousands of years and therefore an immense part of the soul. What the Nazis did was the most simple as well as most genius way (because it was the most effective) to ablaze the minds of millions. I see it even as a kind of duty to call upon the ancient soul of the Germans ? WITHOUT all the political nonsense. I deny apologizing for my belief ? there?s nothing mean, ugly or dirty on it! ?
After a lot of research I come across a book from Steven King called Wolfsmond, and a band by Jochen Peters that released an album called ?Radio Rock ?n Roll?. It means that people can?t find shit if they search for an interview with you. Is that perhaps why so many people, including me, have misunderstood Wolfsmond?
Schatten: ?Wolfsmond have released the first official demo in 1995; I guess at that time Stephen King still never knew he would create his novel ?Wolfsmond? one day ? Yes, it is a pity with the German Rock ?n Roll band Wolfsmond, but we did not know that they existed when we chose this name. It was after a few releases when we read of them, but at that time it was too late to change our name ? so we decided to go on with it because (as I know) the other Wolfsmond doesn?t exist no more, and I guess there is no danger of mistaking us for a Rock ?n Roll band.
We have not answered so many interviews yet, so you can?t find that much in the
Some guys seem to be much into sensation seeking so a lot of rumors occurred during the years. At this point: a big FUCK YOU to all those who don?t know the truth and who don?t try to find it out but create ?cool? stories because it sells.?
It?s a typical example of human behavior; if you can?t find anything, just come up with the most sensational stories.. After all, who is there to deny them?
Schatten: ?Who should? I don?t hang around before the computer to search the web for new stories. So, I?m sometimes the last to hear of them. Even if I would care more for it ? I guess it would cost really much breath to fight all the lies and the shit. In my opinion, it is more important to play the music I ever wanted to play and to show with our lyrics (and interviews) that those false people just suck ? Hehe, what do you think: for whom is the Düsterwald waiting??
Personally speaking about the use of ancient Germanic mythology (like Managarm, which actually means Moondog), I think it is bullshit to link that immediately to fascism or Nazism. The nazis stole symbols of those tribes, yet their ideology comes from the Roman empire. The name comes from the fasces, a symbolic axe used by Roman judges. And one reason that those Germanic tribes had so many kings, was the fact that kings are supposed to fight at the front, something I don?t see nazi-leaders doing. Yet how long do you will it think until journalists open their eyes and see the difference between ancient mythology and recent history?
Schatten: ?I think journalists will NEVER open their eyes. When I tell people that I celebrate Jul (for instance) their first reaction is ?but this is a Nazi festivity!? so I just sigh and turn around. In German schools, in public life, on TV, everywhere is a propaganda machine working; not only against NS but especially against the re-discovering of the great epochs of German (or Germanic) history. I don?t know exactly who it is but it seems as if they would fear a (re-)strengthening of an elder European conscious ? (No, I?m not paranoid but realist!)?.
The band(s)
Some sources on the internet (and elsewhere) say that Wolfsmond is a side-project of Absurd members. Strange as it may sound, I see it as a band in its own, that happens to have some ex-members of Absurd in the line-up? What is the truth?
Schatten: ?Wolfsmond is definitely NO side-project of any other band. Wolfsmond IS a band in its own. Any band that would call me part of it had then an ex-member of Absurd in the line-up. Concerning Unhold ?he plays in about thousand bands at that time (maybe he is a reincarnation of a bunch of great composers at once), but none says Wolfsmond was a side-project of Hellfucked or so.?
You clearly state that German(ic) mythology has a strong impact on you personally and your music: what musical elements (not lyrical) would never be part of Wolfsmond?s music if these roots had not been there?
Schatten: ?Maybe Wolfsmond would not be using clear vocal parts; there are also some riffs which derive from ?mythological inspiration? but probably nobody else will hear this because it is impossible for someone outside the band to follow along the process of composing a song beginning with the first idea to the final result. By the way, it is always difficult to describe what something (our music) would be WITHOUT some special influences ? I can?t imagine my musical work without those concepts, ideas, believes (and so on) which are part of my life since my early youth (so, for many years now).?
In contradiction to many other bands influenced by the pagan inheritance Wolfsmond does not refer to the Asen and other deities from the past; your lyrics are generally about cold, death and nature. Is it a deliberate choice to to write lyrics about the old sagas?
Schatten: ?We have been recording a song called ?Die Wilde Jagd? (The Wild Hunt) for a sampler that has not been released yet in which (as you might see by the name) we sing from the Wild Hunt storming across the land in the night of Yul, lead by the One Eyed Father. Nevertheless, we invoke only the aspect of storm (or wind), rage and the army of the dead ? We are Wolfsmond which means that we accept and honour the dark and sinister parts within us ? our own shadows. While walking the woods by day, I feel of course very close to the ancient Gods, I feel their presence, their goodness. Walking the same woods by night, there seem to be other beings which rule in darkness. And when you have ever seen the shadows move through the forest while the trees were whispering and the moon was showing ways which had never been existing, then you will know for sure why we sing about cold, death and nature. As long as we still see the dark aspects of nature as ?evil? or ?threatening? we won?t be able to find back to nature, to our origin. According to Wotan who is the God of wisdom, arts and goodness but also the God of storm, death and destruction there is Hel (the goddess of death and the underworld) who represents nature for me: one side of her face is bright and beautiful, like a young woman full of love and grace ? the other side is dark, old and rotten, showing that everything that is must decay once.?
Going on about the subject: what inspires Wolfsmond about those ancient pagan subjects: romanticism, roots or something else?
Schatten: ?We feel a deep relation to the ancient Nordic mythology, to our ancient Gods and legends. We even feel our roots ? we feel the strong chain between the pre-christian past and our lives today. Those pagan subjects derive from the intense feelings to be part of that which was and still lives on in our times. When I think of the places which even today wear the ancient names (don?t forget Holland and its etymologic relation to Hel) and the power I can feel there, I know where I come from.?
A lot of fellow underground musicians from the German underground scene mention ?Des Düsterwaldes Reigen? as one of their current favorites in interviews; that must be some kind of support to you. What does it mean to Wolfsmond when fellow musicians mention you so explicitly?
Schatten: ?Of course we feel honored by this ? but that?s all. For us it is much more important to play the music WE like to play and not music for the pleasure of others. The danger when other musicians mention you so explicitly is that you could start thinking about how the next release should be that perhaps more people like it. This must never happen; we will be true in playing our kind of metal until the end.?
The debut was a fine mix between black and doom (I mentioned Manowar?s ?Defender? I know); where does the doom influence come from: something that started your life in metal or another reason?
Schatten: ?I?m very fascinated by Doom Metal because it is (on one hand) the art of playing very slowly; on the other hand it allows metal maniacs to express even those feelings like sadness, the imagination of being forlorn ? and a kind of religious dispute. But it is still METAL with all its attributes. Doom Metal is something like the last grey light of day in late November when you walk the border between forest and field, in the distance there is a little village with no light put on, all the leaves are brown, there is a great emptiness and cold around you, it?s a bit misty, frosty, maybe it?s going to rain later that evening ? and a lonesome dog is barking. Doom Metal is something like ?Slow Death?, a new sharpened, rusty knife in the hours after midnight when all the warmth has ceased and you know there will be no tomorrow ? while (to compare it) Black Metal is a broadsword in the right, a battle axe in the left, and the knowledge you?re already dead ? one of the dead horsemen, one of the shadows which follow Odin on his Wild Hunt during the icy nights of December.?
At the moment I am also listening to Riger?s ?Gjallar?. To be honest, that album is, though called Heathen German metal, way less authentic (and impressive) than ?Des Düsterwaldes Regen?. Where as ?Gjallar? is more of a combination of genres with only pagan elements, Wolfsmond is way more German than Riger. Is it fair to state that your interest in ancient history and roots gives Wolfsmond that extra thing, the difference between surface and innerself so to say?
Schatten: ?This is only one part of our work. It is in my opinion necessary but still not enough to give Wolfsmond ?that extra thing?; when we started playing we decided (each one for himself) that we wanted to play exactly the music we want to listen to. Therefore we don?t say ?this album must be aggressive? or ?it must sound more black metallic? or so. Everything like that is shit and won?t do anything else but fail. Music will be absolutely authentic when the band members play from their hearts and not to serve an image. And finally it had taken some time until Wolfsmond found together in the line-up of today. Maybe we would never have been on this way without our interest in ancient history, roots and nature.?
Schatten; You told me that Absurd was your past, so that means you are out of the band? First of all, why did you leave the band?
Schatten: ?At the end of the 1990s, the differences between Hendrik (JF Nidhoegg) and me grew stronger. Thinking of the ?Asgardsrei? album I feel much anger; it was the worst piece of music I ever made, much worse than our demos. According to this, the process of development inside me had already begun, and when Hendrik had left Europe I felt no necessity to go on with a band which still consisted of myself and with which I could no longer identify. Absurd had become something I didn?t want to be part of.?
What was your best lesson from that period?
Schatten: ?Start listening to your heart ? stop listening to those who tell you how great you are and that everything you do is great. Whatever I do: it must not be something to which I can?t say ?Yes? with my whole heart.?
Do you know whether they still exist?
Schatten: ?Yes, Absurd are still playing ? without me.?
I don?t want to bring up the Sandro Beyer-matter all over again, as it has happened and the sentence has been served? But as a result of all that has happened since, what are your biggest lessons and how do they influence Wolfsmond and its music. I can?t imagine an experience like that has no influence whatsoever on a person?s life?
Schatten: ?Of course it has been influencing my life and still does. I?m unable to explain how it does; the beginning of my own process of spiritual development derives from it, I think, as you may see in my lyrics and how they have been changing over the years.?
Side projects
During research I came across a demo by Veinellis from 2003 called ? Weg in die Vergessenheit? and an album ?In This Forest Shall Be My Gallows? ; is that another project of Wolfsmond Managarm; there are quite a lot of Managarm/Manegarm names in (black) metal?
Schatten: ?The name Managarm seems to be used very often; Wolfsmond?s Managarm was (as far as I know) the first who used that name. The projects you mentioned are no projects of him; he is guitarist/singer of Wolfsmond, has been of Heldentum and plays a real evil guitar for Eternity.?
Speaking of side projects: are you still active in Halgadom? ? Sein und Werden? should come out this year I?ve read on Darkness Inside, and unlike the second album, you will also do some vocals again?
Schatten: ?I did all the vocals on the metal part of ?Sein & Werden?; for Halgadom I?m just the singer so I didn?t compose melodies for that project. I know Halgadom is called NSBM (as well - John) but the lyrics are (in my opinion) apolitical ? I?m not NS, but I like the music of Halgadom.?
For Halgadom, live performances are not an option, so there is no conflict between the two bands regarding that? Is doing live shows an option for Wolfsmond?
Schatten: ?This is difficult because the members of Wolfsmond are living in a bigger distance away from each other so we can?t play that often together. Nevertheless, we would like to play live one day (but still do not know when).?
The upcoming album
On ?Des Düsterwaldes Regen? you experienced with two vocalists: you and Managarm. I must say it is a great idea, not used by too many black metal bands. Is it a concept that will be worked out more on the coming album?
Schatten: ?We have been listening very often to ?Des Düsterwaldes Reigen? in the past two years, and now we know what we can make even better. You?re right ? our concept of working with two singers was to be worked out consequently on the coming album. Now some weeks have passed since we have been in studio. While recording our vocals we found out that on most songs one voice only fits much better than two voices. So we have the effect that mostly only one of us (two singers) is singing ... But we are already planning the next release because some songs (i.e. "Rising In Doom") were much too long for this release so we will (probably) do them next year - and on that forthcoming release there are many parts on which "double singing" is necessary (it is a strong contrast to our impressions concerning the "Tollwut" album).
At the moment you have just finished the recording of the second full length album: when will it be released?
Schatten: ?It depends ? Maybe it will be released still in December but I can?t promise.?
You mailed me that the next release will not be on Nebelfee Klangwerke: is it already known through which label(s) it will be released/distributed?
Schatten: ?As we have planned, the vinyl will appear on Blut & Eisen, the CD will appear on WTC productions.?
Any tracklist that you can already tell us?
Schatten: ?Musicians sometimes have the problem that even song titles may change while the songs are recorded; some names are ?Knochenkult?, ?Das Opfermahl?, ?Tollwut?, ?Eisenherz?, ?Mondsüchtig?, ?Rauhreif?? We will see which ?running order? will be the best for the album, finally there are nine songs on it.?
From your last mail I understood that the title will be ?Tollwut?; perhaps it can best be described as ?Great Anger?; is it a working title or will it be the definitive title?
Schatten: ?Tollwut? will be the definitive title of the album. For a better understanding: Tollwut is not just great anger but precisely a disease. It is ?rabies? in English; animals sometimes suffer by Tollwut. They eat something wrong (contaminated meat) or are bitten by ?contaminated? animals. After a while they show a grotesque mixture between very friendly and very aggressive, biting everything around them, having foam before the mouth. At the end, they die slowly and painful. Also humans can be infected with it but fox and wolf are the creatures which are predestinated for this disease because they are carnivorous animals.?
Judging on the previous album regarding the music, anger is a substantial part of Wolfsmond music. Is that because of fascination or as an outlet for your personal (and others from he band) anger?
Schatten: ?It is both, the fascination and something like an outlet. When reading the ?Edda? you often find descriptions of war and violence. We were also very fascinated by the detailed description of ancient and gruesome trees and woods in ?The Lord of the Rings? ? on those pages we found many relations between these descriptions and our own experiences (as stated above). And of course we channel our personal rage (I guess this word fits better than ?anger?) into our music and our lyrics. ?
You just said that the two voices concept did not work out satisfactory: ?Tollwut? did not fit into that concept. Does that mean that the coming album will be aggressive?
Schatten: ?When we started recording ?Tollwut? we first had to face that it would become much too long (we all love vinyl so we must stay in ?vinyl time?) with all those songs. Then we decided to select which songs were infected by Tollwut and which not. Now, ?Tollwut? is an album which is (in my personal opinion) much more aggressive than ?Des Düsterwaldes Reigen?.
The songs that did not make it to that album are already scheduled for another album: why not make an album with two faces, such as Therion and Ayreon did (though completely a different genre that yours), or is that impossible due to the financial reserves/limitations that less selling bands/lesser known acts have?
Schatten: ?We don?t care much for limitations but always try to make our ideas work. A two faced album would have been interesting but then it would have been a double album. In some points we are a bit old-fashioned: a double album should only be done as a ?Best of ??, a live album or the final release ever. ?Tollwut? has many different faces as you will hear soon it is not only a ?fast forward machine? but has also slower passages (which are not less aggressive). We decided to release the other songs on an album which will be much more into Doom Metal because the songs create a special atmosphere which would have been struggling with the atmosphere of ?Tollwut?.
Personally, I hope that this has given our readers some good information of what Wolfsmond is all about, and a chance to get done with prejudices. Wolfsmond is indeed not political, so certainly no NS(BM), just great metal and I hope that ?Tollwut? will be released soon to convince you all. Happy Yul to all of you! Thank you Schatten for taking so much time and effort in answering the questions in this open and honest way!
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:39 am
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ABSURD today is nothing without the murderers.
They seem to spend too much time on forums and posing for photos when they should be strangling non aryan traitors like Sandro Beyer.
Kill all anti-werewolfers!
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:25 pm
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DTBRex wrote:
Manawydan wrote:
you should have an
"its all shit"
option, im going to say with absurd I really really tried because of the supposed DLS connection...
Perhaps the bands' performance on the first records can be debated on a purely technical level, but this has nothing to do with the music itself. With the re-recordings featured on DFK, one can obviously hear the huge potential even of the most early Absurd-songs such as "Ashes to Ashes" and "Last Breath". And if you talk of the latter, post 2001-recordings of Absurd, then you have to be plain dumb to try to debate the skills of someone like Unhold who wrote most of the music. This man belongs to the best musicians ever emerging from among the German Black Metal-scene, as a matter of fact
I couldn't agree with this more; the brilliant ideas that they had trouble expressing in those demos are fully developed here. I used to not care for early ABSURD until I heard this, and what they were trying to do back then hit me like a sack of bricks and now it all makes sense. Love it all now.
Any news of new material?
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:13 pm
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Voted for Raubritter/Grimmige Volksmusik, supreme alco-music!
Kiss My Coffin!
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:29 pm
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I can`t remember my response, but der funfzehnjahrige krieg is #1, with blutgericht and totenlieder close behind. I dont even care to split cunthairs with Absurd. Everything is fantastic.
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:29 pm
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rthdx wrote:
Voted for Raubritter/Grimmige Volksmusik, supreme alco-music!
Hei A HO HO!
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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:31 pm
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One of the focused stories at Interbike was bikes for Africa. There were a number of groups represented including SRAM and their World Bicycle Relief, and Tom Ritchey and his Project Rwanda<a/>. There is plenty of good literature on the sites, but if you can help – you can donate here or here.
I heard that there's a Project Rwanda<a/> bike at a local coffee roaster. I'm going to check it out and see what else I can dig up on this great initiative.
[UPDATE – Another local group is sending bikes as well:]
The Village Bicycle Project provides sustainable and affordable transportation for Africans. Owning a bike promotes poverty reduction, rural development and personal empowerment. Millions of Africans do not have basic, reliable transportation. 99% of Africans cannot afford cars. Public transportation is expensive and unreliable. Contact firstname.lastname@example.com if you can help.

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Software highlights from the second PR2 Beta Program Conference Call
We sent 11 PR2s out the door last May as part of our PR2 Beta Program. Now that they've been in the hands of the researchers around the world for 6 months, the PR2s have started showing off a lot of new tricks. We heard about their progress last week during the second PR2 Beta Conference Call. The call was a chance for all the Beta Program recipients to show off what they've accomplished since the first call. Below is a partial list of software that's been released in their public code repositories over the past few months, or you can find more details in the slides and audio from the call.
The shared_autonomy stack is collection of tools for combining human control and automated algorithms including
- augmented_object_detector provides fast and effective object detection, based on a combination of human input and machine vision
- safe_teleop_base adds collision avoidance for easier joystick control of the robot
- augmented_grasp_planner automatically identifies potential grasps and lets a person select the best one for the situation
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- clutter_segmentation separates the world into "surface" and "clutter" regions, as well as providing a dataset of cluttered scenes from real environments.
- overhead_grasping simple way to quickly pick up basic objects from above.
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- orocos_toolchain_ros provides a toolchain and examples for integrating orocos components into ROS systems, and was also an early test of the new release system.
- Several of the most useful capabilities in Orocos have been integrated in orocos_kinematics_dynamics and orocos_bayesian_filtering.
- camera_pose_estimation builds on top of those libraries and ar_pose from CCNY to improve tracking of visual makers in space.
- The MTTD stack contains a whole set of tools for detecting and tracking multiple people using the PR2's sensors.
- sbpl_lattice_planner does more advanced planning for the PR2 base motion, including planning for rotations.
- roshask is the start of a new client library for the Haskell language.
- USC has been working on improved calibration of sensors and studying how robots should position themselves for interaction with people.
- octomap2 builds efficient 3d models from point-cloud data
- The articulation stack builds models of hinges and mechanisms from sensor data, including a great set of tutorials.
- NARF is a set of keypoint detectors and descriptors that have been integrated into pcl.
- The object_survey package allows a PR2 to automatically gather 3d models of objects such as chairs by driving around and taking data from all angles.
- Several integrated demos, including recyclerbot
- pr2_stanford_wbc adapts the Stanford whole-body-control framework for use on the PR2, which provides a powerful way of specifying tasks for the robot.
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- towel folding is new and improved. It is now faster (5 minutes), more robust, and runs on an unmodified PR2.
- Updates to utility packages pr2_simple_motions and smach_utils.
- Lots of updates to euslisp, including support for OSX, 30+ new robot models, and 100+ new object models.
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April 19, 2006
WELLESLEY, Mass. - For the fourth time this season, MIT (4-6, 2-3 NEWMAC) failed to win a game decided by one goal. The Engineers could not muster a goal in the final 10 and a half minutes on Tuesday night, and Wellesley College (7-8, 2-3 NEWMAC) hung on for a 10-9 victory. Sophomore Amber Evans (four goals, one assist), junior Maxine Brownstein (four goals) and senior tri-captain Katie Moseley (four assists) helped the Blue overcome a three goal, three assist effort by MIT senior Deanna Lentz.
The first half was all about Amber Evans. She tallied the Blue's first goal at 23:19 and after the Engineers responded with two scores, Evans answered with two of her own. Freshman Marry Hatch momentarily knotted the game at 3-3 when she capitalized on pass from Lentz at 11:13. But just over a minute later, Evans struck back. She made no mistake on a feed from Moseley, burying her fourth goal of the half and 29th of the season to give the Blue a 4-3 lead. Wellesley carried the one-goal advantage deep into the half but watched MIT junior Amanda Hunter score the equalizer with just :05 on the clock.
The Blue bounced right back to open the second frame, but this time a different goal scorer rose to the occasion. Maxine Brownstein potted her 36th goal of the season unassisted at 28:25. Moseley then found Brownstein just 32 seconds later, and the Blue added another goal at 26:25 to go up 7-4. Lentz and Brownstein would trade goals before the Engineers began their own 3-0 run. At 17:42, Lentz scored her 37th goal before assisting on tallies by Hatch and freshman Samantha O'Keefe.
With the game deadlocked at 8-8, senior tri-captain Audrey Gill and Brownstein scored 49 seconds apart to give Wellesley a 10-8 advantage with just over 10 minutes to play. MIT quickly retaliated, as senior Randee Miller found the back of the net at 10:30, but that was as close as the Engineers would get. The Blue's freshman goalie Kristin Jaronczyk stood tall down the stretch, stopping three shots in the final few minutes to help Wellesley hang on for a 10-9 victory.
Jaronczyk finished the game with 12 total saves, including eight in the second half. Junior Hee Jay Kang turned aside nine shots for the Engineers.
MIT travels to Norton Massachusetts to wrap up the regular season against Wheaton College (6-5, 4-1 NEWMAC) on Saturday, April 22. The game will begin at 1:00 p.m.


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he's not showing anything to pick him over any guy who can post up consistently. he's playing with no one who'll demand touches and he doesn't even look to post up.
this game is all about our guards, nothing special from Splitter and if the offense is forced to slow down, this is the type of playoff type of play we're going to be playing: living and dying by the 3.
Jose you have some vendetta against Splitter for some unknown reason, maybe you are a Jefferson fan boy that bad that you want to rubbish Tiago till AJ arrives as your white knight I don't get it like Skinny Jeans.
Splitter is not required to be a scoring leader, at best he is expected to be 5th or 6th leading scorer in the team. You talk about himm looking to post up but have you not watched the games?
This is not rec league it is not as simple as the big man runs down the court and establishes position, Pop has requirements of Tiago as the secondary big man on offence to run his routs to create the spacing our offence thrives on.
Everytime down court he runs down cuts back to the top of the key and then takes the ball passes on while creating some room for the ball handler. Then he goes low until called up to screen and roll where he will either catch it on the way to the hoop and score or he will create the defensive missmatches that create scrambling from the defence and either a shooter or cutter will open up for a basket.
If he went to the block and started calling for the ball while the guards struggled to get free up the top then Pop would yank him and bring on Bonner to instead to the screen and pop.
If the above doesn't work then he is posting up as the plan B and is in double figures scoring with the leading FG % in the NBA so he must be hitting some of his post work to go with rolls.
You may think that means we live and die by the 3 but it doesn't, it means we live and die by our number 1 scoring option TP either slashing for the score or dish to the vacant man or pulling up for that reliable jumper he now has.
Yes we shoot a lot of threes but if they aren't working we use that movement to free up TD, Manu, Green, Leonard or Neal for mid range, cut or inside.
And if none of that is working because TP can't create then we go from 2 - 0 to 2 - 4 in the playoffs pretty quickly, but I am on the side of the equation that believes the Thunder played their Championship series to beat us (with Ibaka looking like an ofensive stud) rather than we had the wrong system.
You bring in Al to clog up the block alongside of Timmy then you throw away the system that allows us to still win with out TD to cover for the 1 or 2 games we struggle.
I would rather go with what got us 20 straight wins rather than planning for the couple of losses that will not always run together like they did, the players are 1 year better and better versed in the system, one that is keeping us in the game with the Bulls without 4 of our best.
So for all your trolling of Tiago it comes down to him doing what is required of him by his coach rather than what is required by you, Legendary coach rather than a faceless fan...
........ And World Peace
i was one of the few guys who pulled for Splitter and knew he'd improve, but wanting a better player for him isn't anything unrealistic.
so please, go on your "legendary coach", "in Pop we trust", and whatever else slogans to bail out not understanding the game of basketball. i do think Pop is a great coach, but this guy had Bonner starting at some point, Roger Mason playing PG, and Richard Jefferson playing PF. "if you think that means living and dying by the 3", yes it does because we don't have an inside presence, all we have when the game is slowed down is jumpers, that's called Coaching 101.
does he have brain farts? of course he does. is he perfect like you want to make him out to be? of course he's not. by the way, i'm not a faceless fan. i have my mug all around, not some Tim Duncan picture with tatts to hide behind.
Now, now boys... play nice.
Off subject, but how bout my homie KLEO!!!!! Dude was ballin tonight!!!!!
I think he's going to be a star. And as time goes on, he'll be the face of the Spurs, I think.--- Coach Pop on Leonard
Well there is only 10 days left to see if Spurs pull of a trade no one expects them to do. If we stand pat it will be interesting like the last few years... Streamroll through the regular season only to get bounced out of the playoffs. I don't know about the rest of you but my nerves can't take too many more of these close calls. But do they take a chance with Tiago and hope he doesn't crumble in the plaids playoffs like Bonner and a few others have in recent years?
Let's just hope they don't want Splitter and we keep both guys, and whoever performs I the playoffs... We keep. Just hate to lose our grittiest guy, Jackson. But you have to give something to get something!
You make huge sweeping statements Jose based on not much, Splitter just showed 16 pts on 5 of 7 shots working within what I described above where first option was screen and roll and then he went to the post as TD wasn't there as first post option.
As splitter is making about $3.5 mill a year I am happy with that as Boozer got 14 points making $15 mill.... Now when we look to next year and the contract he might ask for Asik just got $25 mill over 3 years so as their stats are very similar (even with 10 less minutes)if we pay Tiago that I and most should be happy as 7 footers get paid even if they are barely coordinated.
He doesnt just set picks he also scores in double figures in 23 min at the highest FG % in the NBA, again worth paying for.
You may feel your mug is all over here but this is still just an internet forum so the coach that will go in the HOF does get more credit for knowing what he is talking about rather than yourself.... unless you reveal that you are in a real life NBA management position of some type then you are still faceless compared to the players and coaches you are downgrading.
Talking about a coach doesn't influence whether I know ball or not, neither does Gansta David, I talked through how I thought the system worked and how Splitter worked within that system. Instead of breaking down where I got it wrong you threw out two players who are no longer here and a catch cry you heard from a commentator and saying we have no inside presence.
When TD is on the floor he is the inside presence, and when he is not resting he is doing it well, when he is not Splitter takes more responsibility in the post where even today the Bulls double teamed him and he got assists out of that double team a couple of times. Now if Al was here for todays game instead (which again it would be both rather than instead)then he may have scored more in the post but we may not have got as many open looks to go 50% from three with a predictable one side offence... and as Tiago already scored 16 points on 5 of 7 we did not miss out.
As you like to focus on parts of a post rather than responding to all I detail focus on the fact that:
- Pop is not perfect but he has put in place a system that got 20 straight wins last year and even a win today against a good team without 4 key players because the system works if the players stick to it rather than taking instructions from the internet.
- Tiago did stand up today as you want, he got 16 points on 5 of 7 and still created the space Pop wants while collecting $3.5 mill this year one of the cheapest starting centers in the NBA
- Al is a better scorer at this point but at what cost to the rest of the points needed above his 24th in the league 17 points per game? We are just no longer an inside out team as much as you seem to want us to return to that Coach 101.
You are a genius so maybe detail how you think the offence should work around Jefferson, an undersized big man who is good for 5th best inside offensive presence at 17 points.
........ And World Peace
that's not even close to being a post presence. the only decent play he had going to the post was when he couldn't even post up the soft Carlos Boozer and Splitter actually bounced off of him for the shot. that's not being a post presence. he made his free throws, so that's a plus.
doing a pick and roll isn't considered being an "inside presence". TD in his prime is an inside presence because he caught the ball in the paint and created. Splitter using a pick and roll and playing off another player does not make him an inside presence. it makes him a player who needs to roll to the basket to get his shot, but that doesn't classify anything close to that. Amare Stoudemire was never known as an inside presence when he'd pick and roll with Nash and neither is Splitter.
Al Jefferson is 6'10", when is that considered as undersized? he can back down guys consistently and shoot over them while making a pass to shooters once there's a double team. there's no "detail" to that, it's vintage Spurs offense.
you need to detail how Splitter will do when team's decide to stack the paint like OKC did or keep up with shooters and kill the pick and roll. how's Splitter going to man the offense? he's playing well for $3.5 million but he won't be worth that much if he keeps playing like this consistently. also remember, the Bulls rely on Derrick Rose. Boozer is soft and can't create his own consistently, Noah can't create, and Taj Gibson is a hustle player. Splitter had role players to play against without a superstar, if he's as good as advertised on here he should have taken more shots and manned the offense better. i seriously doubt Pop's offense was "have Neal dribble the ball in transition and jack up shots". he made them, but that's because he's so one dimensional. put Al Jefferson with this team tonight and no Big 3 and it would've been an inside out game, something we'll need in the playoffs if we want to win the title.
check out Tiago's stats to know how the pick and roll is the only way he can score:
he's shooting 65% (194-298) in the restricted area, he's shooting 26% from the paint in the non-restricted area. if he was really backing down, he'd have shots in the paint as a whole in a balanced way. there's no way with Tiago's lack of strength can he backs down guys all way under the basket.
Jefferson is shooting 64% in the restricted area, 45% in the paint (non-RA) and 40% in mid range.
Splitter is too one dimensional and if you believe Gregg Popovich is wanting Splitter just to play in this system, then you're forgetting the past few times where Pop went with set up ball and picked Dice/Diaw over Blair. the reason Pop says the Spurs need to run is because we don't have an inside presence backing down. if we did, we'd mix it up. he's playing Splitter to the best of his own abilities to help the team, not because he purely wants Tiago to play in that way.
Jose is one of Splitters biggest fans, he doesn't have anything against Tiago! He called for him to play years ago and talks highly about him alot! What would he have against Tiago? I believe you have Jose a little confused, he is one of his biggest fans infact.
BTW I agree on if you can get Al for him an a few others do it, that will IMO improve the team later from the inside out game! We can't rely on threes to win a title, that doesn't work and never will! It is proven and we proved it a few years ourselves! If you can get Jefferson do it! If it is the right price meaning not too much given up PULL IT! If not we have a deep team and will roll with what we got.
I worry though about the Chemistry thing here JOSER, this team has a great chemistry it seems and is winning alot like last year late! If they make the trade does it fall appart like RJ coming here when that seemed logical then? Double edged sword there man.
Win or lose this is a game -
You could let it pick your brain for weeks and months, just replay it over and over, won't do you any good at all. When someone loses a loved one and they do that it only brings forth anguish. I feel acceptance is sometimes the key, it happened, now you have to react to it. Giving up is not an option.
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I know I know he is not around anymore but wishful thinking. Tim can still do alot though, so you think we trade for Al Jefferson who is not that good on D and we get alot better? I mean his O game is alot better than Splitters but do they make a move?
Win or lose this is a game -
You could let it pick your brain for weeks and months, just replay it over and over, won't do you any good at all. When someone loses a loved one and they do that it only brings forth anguish. I feel acceptance is sometimes the key, it happened, now you have to react to it. Giving up is not an option.
Just like Brent Barry said, "plug anyone in, and the system never changes". We are going to run our sets and we are going to help each other on defense.... That's what the Spurs always do. Plus I think Jefferson gets some of TD's 4 down pla differentys. Also when Duncan needs rest or is out and teams like OKC pack the paint and close out on our the point shooters, what do we do? We're going to need a Duncan like post threat to collapse and double team down low to free up our shooters for easier shots. Sorry Tiago doesn't give us that. He gives us a good dimension for bigs that don't play the pick and roll well, but with Ibaka and Perkins, well could definitively us Big Al.
Oh Jose, Jose, Jose you trouble maker you Tiago is doing exactly what the Spurs want and demand of him. You know that if he started trying to do too much, Pop would plop his butt on the bench and he wouldn't see playing time until the next season.
When you say "you're forgetting the past few times where Pop went with set up ball and picked Dice/Diaw over Blair." the key word there is few, those times are getting fewer and further between.
The Spurs offensive system doesn't require or need a guy who can simply pounds the ball on the floor while he backs down to within a foot of the hoop, because that causes the offense to come to a screeching halt.
Would it be nice if he were the second coming of David Robinson or Wilt? Sure, if this were 15 years ago. Everyone admits, he's a better passer, he adds more to the Spurs overall play than Diaw, Bonner or Blair, because if he didn't he wouldn't be starting and playing as many minutes as he does.
If you want to bring Jefferson in, then do it to replace Tim because that's going to be the biggest hole to fill in the near future.
Since you can't fix stupid, at least you should be able to prosecute it!
This team is still missing something. I still don't think they can beat OKC or Miami in a 7 game series. Even the Clippers give me some doubts. Because when it comes down to it, if you stop Parker, you stop the Spurs. Now the Spurs hung tough last year against OKC. But they had no ability to get the easy score in the paint when it's crunch time and their guards can't penetrate or score. That's where a Jefferson would come in handy.
Splitter cannot reliably post up defenders and score 1 on 1. He's got a nice reverse layup but otherwise his post game is very underdeveloped.
He is an above average roll scorer off the pick, and at least average as passing out of the post position. He also is pretty decent at ball protection and not fouling.
But seriously, he's nothing special. He is not a shot blocking presence, not a great rebounder, and can't do anything that most of the other PFs and Centers in the league can't do. The nice thing is that he's not overpayed for what he brings, which most of those other guys are.
He's a good role player, and a good backup to Duncan. But he cannot hang with the better starting big men in the league like Ibaka, Griffin, Chandler, Randolf, and he never will.
Uwe is Spot On, this team is missing what they need to beat OKC or Miami. As awesome as Parker has been, and as good as the Spurs can be against 90% of the league....San Antonio needs dominating performances from Manu and Duncan to be able to deliver as the absolute best team in the NBA. I just doubt that those guys have enough in the tank to deliver those kind of performances, to counter the Superstars on the other side of the ball that Miami and OKC will bring to the table.
(BTW I don't think Jefferson is the answer either). The Spurs are not a role-player away from being a champion, they are a superstar away from being a champion. I only hope that Manu and Duncan can have some flashback-style performances in the playoffs. Sure we can beat up on the undisciplined teams in the league during the regular season, but Conference Finals and NBA Finals are not ever remotely comparable to what we are doing now.
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Just over our last 3 games, we've been badly outrebounded by the opponent, particularly offensive rebounds. And two of the last three we won quite handedly. I feel we need another big who can just hit the boards and regularly. Doesn't have to be a 7 footer or scoring presence, just give us our scoring opportunities and take them away from our opponents. And if we can keep Splitter in the process, it would be an added plus because he adds to the chemistry of the team already mentioned. IMHO.
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Time differences stop good discussions as I have come back on and we have all moved on.... except to say our offence is what it is for this years run, if we plug in Al or even Josh Smith then they will not be doing what they are used to. It will be some patchwork version that may work really well as they are both borderline All Stars, or they may not make as much difference.
Either way I remain happy as a "Die Hard Fan" of the fact that Splitter with whatever limitation you see is doing what is required of him and so is worth what we are currently paying.
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that's nonsense. Pop is plugging in Splitter to play the best he can. the Spurs would love Splitter to develop an inside game, but he's not that type of player especially if he bounces off the defender when he's posting up. if you think Pop wouldn't like consistent post up from Splitter, then you apparently don't remember when we ran in the beginning of the year then Pop went with 4 Downs against Memphis in the playoffs or against the Thunder when they stopped the Spurs from running last year.
it's just common sense. if you have bigs, you hope they can post up first in the paint then anything else second. we were running with Blair and he was playing a pick and roll style because that's the only way he could play not because Pop wanted him to play like that. Splitter is playing Blair's game, that's why he's getting minutes.
The next question is Jose what money are you willing to spend on Splitter (is it Asik money 3 yr $25 like I mentioned) or what is your alternative?
Issues with getting an alternative big man is they are all going to be over paid in the free agant market and also we are not exactly a free agent magnet.
Does that mean you are unhappy until we can trade for an alternative.
For me $7.5 mill per year is ok for what Splitter produces, with out going over old ground, and I really cant see getting the equivelant or better for any cheaper unless we go back into the Euro farm the Spurs have and get another on a rookie contract.
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Now you may not like his game, but frankly who cares? He's in the lineup because he gives the Spurs much, much, much more than Bonner, Diaw or Blair
"Last but certainly not least, Splitter also plays surprisingly solid defense according to the numbers compiled by Synergy. Even better than Duncan in some spots, in fact, including post-ups (0.62 points per play, 12th) and pick-and-rolls (0.97 ppp, 25th). With Duncan anchoring the defense as well as he has in years, the tandem would seem to be an ideal matchup for bigger teams like Memphis and the Lakers."
For whatever reason you want him either gone or out of the lineup so the Spurs can chase the elusive dream 'big'. Now if one of the upcoming crop of free agent centers decide they want to come to SA, ok, but it's not going to happen.
He is doing EXACTLY what Pop wants of him and yes he will get paid, so get over it.
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You're talking about the Chicago game? They didn't live and die by the three. They had a variety of pull up shots. Great mid range games were on display. Tiago was efficient and did his job. I don't know if Pop wanted him to post up more. If Pop wanted it and Tiago didnto do it, he would have sat. If Pop didn't want it and Tiago posted up anyway, he would have sat.
It was a nice game. Tiago needed more help inside but Bonner, Diaw and Blair couldn't provide it. Tiago was one on three in the lane.
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I think this has turned into a "Defending Tiago Because Someone Said He Sucks" thread. I think Tiago is playing great. I think Jefferson is much better than Tiago. I recall seeing Jefferson do well in pick and rolls, he has a good midrange jumper, and he is good in the post. Defensively, he rebounds more and has more blocked shots, which automatically makes him a better defender.
So in summation, Tiago doesn't suck, Jefferson is better, if Utah wants to do the trade for some strange reason, you do it. But I don't think they will, so this is all probably moot.
Utah is not going to keep Al-Jeff this summer since they have Millsap- Favor and Kanter. Al-Jaff has an expiring contract and he's going anywhere who pays him. And Utah won't have more than trade exception if a sign&trade happens.
So Utah is trying to get some guys and draft picks by sending him this trade deadline. They're going to need some guys wo can contribute too, since they're in play-off race.
Now we're a fine canddate to get him since we've an expiring S-Jax contract and some back-court players (like Neal and Patty Mills) who can help Utah immediately. If they can't find a better offer, they may choose our package.
im not that happy with the idea of trade the only natural SF other than kawhi... people says "hey green can play SF, manu can..." but that was the wear that sidelined both when kawhi and sjax was out... can you imagine only ONE (second year 21yo) SF against the top contenders who happends to have the 1 and 2 options for league MVP (lebron, durant)... the clippers had caron butler mat barnes and even grant hill to throw at kawhi... we REALLY need more than one real SF... you can say "ohh spurs defense is help defense" ...but anyway... this constant helping can lead to injury to our top (but fragile) SG or our best defender at SG... and that already happened..
sjax is slow, and having not so good numbers, but has the veteran savy and the "huevos" to go down swinging.. and i believe he still has some sparks from the past, no one can take him from granted and forget defend him... who in D league, free agency, etc, can replace him this year if traded?
Im honored to be on this team right now because hes going to be great for years to come, and Im going to hold on as long as I can. -Tim Duncan on Kawhi Leonard.
problem is... any improvement made by tiago, is easily overshadowed by the progress made by ibaka, who now has reliable jumper, and even sinking 3pts! dang!!!...
and to make worse; durant and wesbrook are still making advance, they are arguably better than last year...
Im honored to be on this team right now because hes going to be great for years to come, and Im going to hold on as long as I can. -Tim Duncan on Kawhi Leonard.
Since you guys didn't answer in the other thread:
OKC has the luxury of Thabo not having any of those responsibilities.But with Harden gone, I'm in the camp that Westbrook's me first mentality is going to give the Spurs a better chance plus an improved Leonard & Splitter. I don't advocate fixing the defense by getting a player whose lone skill set upsets the balance and chemistry of an already strong team. If Duncan's knee wasn't saved by the VI Flaming Eagle Knee Brace, then bringing Al would be a feasible scenario. Lucky that Tim will be back but assuming that Tim retires earlier than we thought, I just don't see Jefferson as the post replacement of the future deserving of Superstar dollars.
I am encouraged by the improvement in KL's offensive skills and feel that Pop will use that as a change of pace attack sequence. He's the near future and with TP still gives us a formidable line up. No one stays status quo but the Spurs way with fiscal responsibility and the building of corporate knowlege is one I have no issue at all with backing. If they choose Jefferson it will be for something that I do not see. I'm not saying I'm right or you're right. I'm just saying I've laid our arguments to support my hypothesis.
Feel free to disagree. It's an interesting discussion and I await the feedback.
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When you look at the stats-Splitter shoots better, his plus minus scores are better, he gets to the FT Line more which means he gets a chance to score PLUS puts fouls on opposing players.
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Tod's right Al may benifit another team who does more iso ball and he may currently be better in the post, but Splitter does what is required in our system and has (on this forum at least) an underated post game.... for about half the price.
But to sound glitchy here Utah will not trade Jefferson for Tiago, they don't want another big man they want guard/shooting help.
And Tod sweet Parker drive Gif did you do it or where did you get it? that should be out there.
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the problem you have with that is you're implying Tiago is the only one who can do that, when in reality Duncan can play Tiago in the pick and roll scenario. Jefferson would add another dimension to the offense with his back to the basket and can also jump shoot.
it's simple: we can run as a team with a player like Jefferson and set up the offense while with Tiago, we have to run because he can't do anything else and TD can't back down guys anymore
simple: if we have a player like Jefferson (keyword: like), you then switch Duncan for Tiago, who can do the same things, and a player like AJ who can spot up shoot in Duncan's place.
Jefferson is earning a lot right now but nothing close next year because of the new CBA. Splitter's stock is going to skyrocket this season and they'll be earning close to the same. Splitter will get offers in the $8-10 million range, Jefferson will get around $10 million ($18 mill is going to be the ceiling on that with Bron earning that much) and he'll get no where near $14 million.
the conversation is getting a better player than Splitter to win right now than trying to keep Tiago for the future since we're probably going to be a lottery team or 6-7th in the playoffs at best once TD leaves
In one sentence, you claim that Jefferson will be taking a pay cut, because of the new CBA.
In the next, you claim that teams will overpay for Splitter, yet under the same CBA.
Are teams going to become frugal on good players, and yet continue to overspend on marginal players? The same CBA applies to both. If you think that they both make comparable money next year, then teams think that they have comparable value.
I'm confused at your logic. Honestly. No sarcasm.
Then again, I'm not a self-proclaimed genius /s
The LAL is a train wreck, the Mavs are the same, OKC is a still a beast but are they really better without James Harden? Does Harden and Lin have enough help in Houston? I say the Spurs trusting the system gives them a strong chance at staying at the upper levels in the West.
I will say that Jefferson has a superior post up game. But, I remind everyone that the whole team has invested over half a season playing the way they play, complete with all the nuances Pop has revealed. Bringing in a player whose main strength is the low block out to FT line extended does sound a little like TD. However, unlike TD, Jefferson does not have the added benefit of being in the system with year's and year's of "corporate knowledge". Out of all the coaches that Jefferson has played with, the only one who has ties to the Spurs tree is Doc Rivers, who he played for in 3 seasons. Then he went to Minnesota where he played for Kevin McHale, and they played primarily an inside out offense. Now he plays for Tyrone Corbin and again, an inside-out offense.
Maybe Al remembers some of the sets from his time with Doc. Let's say that he does. But I want to point out one thing:
Pop & RC may agree with you people that want Jefferson. They could very well do what you guys say, but looking at the history of how the Spurs have been run during the Pop era, they haven't done anything like that at all, even when they've brought in players during the mid-point. When they traded away Malik to get Nazr, it didn't require them to dump a starter. Nesterovic was the starter at the time and then got injured prior to playoffs that 05 title season. Drew Gooden and Glenn Robinson had specific roles as corallary players. Maybe Al takes one of those roles, but since Tiago has already fulfilled the expectations of that role...why trade that away plus the continuity?
IT'S THE SYSTEM and the word rules it all. Can Al Jeff get the system?
If Pop and RC think he can. They'll find a way. I hope Splitter stays and the Spurs don't lose too much continuity because of the outgoing players.
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Here is an interesting and detailed take on Jefferson's potential in Silver and Black. I would post the whole thing, but the take is so good, so I'll give some highlights and encourage you to follow the link. It's a good read. How would Al Jefferson fit with the Spurs?
All that up there is inline with my argument. I see what they see and remain unfazed by Al Jefferson's stats. It's my opinion that him coming here would wreck the continuity of what Pop has built with this team. Why wreck that for Al Jefferson?
Any of the AL Jeff people feel free to continue the discussion. Lay down a convincing counter points if possible.
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Tod, second that. Jefferson mid season makes no sense from a defensive standpoint. Hence I say it will not happen. If that is not enough, the number of moving parts required to make it work would kill any championship chances for this year. Just my reasoning.
I guess there are no Al Jefferson discussions anymore?
I was waiting for further compelling arguments but it's been a few days now and no responses.
Thanks for the discussion-
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for my personal standpoint i said what i think... not like gonna waste time arguing trying to bring people to my opinion... thats not the reason why im here ;-)...
(opinion is like butts hehehehehe... everyone has one :-P )
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