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1. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!(Shannon_Sizemore) Jan 25, 2009 1:38 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))I have the same problem, only not running Vista (Microsoft Office Pro), and it destroys the previously saved Illstrator file which reflected no problem at the time of saving.
2. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!(Shannon_Sizemore) Jan 25, 2009 1:39 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))I'm running CS2, not CS4.
3. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!(Shannon_Sizemore) Jan 25, 2009 1:41 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))Sorry, Windows XP OS.
4. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!(Shannon_Sizemore) Jan 25, 2009 10:08 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))No solution for the crash, but a partial solution for recovering illustrator files:
Partial workaround can be found here - http://reubenmiller.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/designers-tip-h.html
Excerpted from reubenmiller.typepad.com:
"(paraphrased from Behance.net, where the tip was originally posted by Yael...)
I've discovered a fix that worked for me in un-corrupting corrupt adobe Illustrator files - quite by accident. Hope this helps someone!!
Requires Acrobat (not just the Reader).
Works on (and was tested in) Illustrator version 10 and all CS versions.
>Open the corrupt file in Acrobat.
>Take the arrow tool.
>Click on any element or text in the document.
>Just move the object by hitting one of the directional arrows on your keyboard.
>File, Save.
>Open the file in Illustrator.
>It will say 'this file has been modified outside of Illustrator' or something to that effect. it will ask if you want to keep changes.
>Say 'Yes' (or OK)"
5. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!Foobar_Zen Feb 19, 2009 5:58 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))Was a solution ever found for this? I am having the same exact problem in Windows Vista 32bit. I have ran through the entire list of things Adobe recommends in diagnosing the issues, outside of a re-install which I will try tonight, and nothing seems to fix it so far.
6. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!(Shaun_Behl) Feb 19, 2009 10:17 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))Yes I managed to fix this problem. In your OS find your printers (I'm using windows 7 and forget where they are located on other versions). Now if you notice that the default printer is not a local or existing printer then that is simply your problem. Change the default printer to a local printer or Adobe PDF, network printers can cause the crash still. Now open Illustrator and goto print the document, it should default to your OS default printer, if not change it to your default. Now you should have no problems saving. If you have printers listed on your system that dont exist I suggest your remove them as this can cause the crash as well. If you still have problems then your Print Spooler may be corrupt or is having issues. That I cant help you with.
Hope this helps. Also this seems to be the fix on all versions of Illustrator that have this issue, I am using CS4.
8. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!Foobar_Zen Feb 20, 2009 10:08 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))Thanks for the help. It seems my issue may have been that I need to do a "run as administrator" routine on Illustrator.
9. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!bobbyd918 Apr 11, 2009 8:32 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
I had this exact same problem and changing the Default Printer did fix it. The printer I had set previously was a Network Printer and I'm currently off the network.
10. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!dooda_design Dec 1, 2009 11:45 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
This solution solved my crash problem today!!!!
Couldnt for the life of me work out why my file kept crashing, on save, selecting anything even just moving around the screen it would crash.
Tried all of the solutions on the Adobe forum, nothing worked, until....
Relinked the one JPG file i had linked in my file to a PSD instead and it has'nt crashed once. The offending jpg had a clipping mask applied to it.
Not ideal (to have to not link JPGs) but least its stable now.
Thanks so much for the tip comicstar, I lost about 6 hours trying to get my file finished, sorted in 5 minutes after it stopped crashing.
11. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!ritchot Sep 16, 2010 11:08 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
Mine is doing the same thing. When i go to "Devices and Printers" my default printer is set to Adobe PDF, so i'm not sure why it's happening to me. I am connected to printers on a network from school, and when i'm working from home, that's when the crashing is happening, ONLY when i am working from home. SO, I am not sure how to correct this then. When i try to Print the file from Illustrator, so change the default printer from there, it won't even open the print dialogue box.
what shoudl i do?
12. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!BohnDragon Dec 29, 2010 1:48 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
Thanks so much. I suddenly had this problem on XP with CS4 and switching the default printer stopped the crashing.
13. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!LMuk Jan 27, 2011 2:03 PM (in response to ritchot)
This is the same problem I'm having only the computer my printer is connected to is off and I don't want to have it on every time i need to work on a file.havent tried it yet though to see if that actually is the problem :O a solution would be awesome! another thing is that my file seems to save unless i have a linked file or jpeg in it :O i really need help trying to do a homework assignment and illustrator keeps crashing
14. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!Larry G. Schneider Jan 27, 2011 2:06 PM (in response to LMuk)
What OS are you using? You may be able to set up virtual printer like Adobe PDF which might help.
15. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!LMuk Jan 27, 2011 9:55 PM (in response to Larry G. Schneider)
I'm using Windows Vista :O the most basic version I believe. Luckily I managed to get my assignment completed but The computer with the printer had to be on the whole time. How would I set up a virtual printer? Is there a link to a site that tells me how to do that?
Thanks for the help
16. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!Larry G. Schneider Jan 28, 2011 8:57 AM (in response to LMuk)
Do you have Acrobat 8 or 9? If so, it should have installed Adobe PDF 9.0 which is a virtual printer for making PDFs from multiple applications. Look in your printer list and see if it exists. If not try running the Repair installation from Acrobat help.
17. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!LMuk Jan 28, 2011 7:12 PM (in response to Larry G. Schneider)
ah I do have it! I didn't know it came with my software package :) Thanks so much I'm going to set that as the default then ^^ thanks a lot for the help!
18. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!Johnnybleueeyes May 7, 2011 7:51 AM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
I encountered the same problem after switching form my HP1522 to Lexmark X264dn. My work was originaly saved with the HP printer and when I tried to modify it, it wouldn't save nor print. Changing my default printer didn't work. To fix the problem, I just created a new file and copied my work from the old file to the new one and I was able to save it. The problem occured because I didn't uninstal the printer, I deteted it in the Printer section of the Control panel.
19. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!e_falquero Jul 27, 2011 12:37 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
Thank you so much for posting this solution Shaun! I had moved to a wirless printer setup a few months back, but did not encounter this unexpected quit upon saving until working remotely just recently. You are a life saver, work is easy again.
20. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!ChiBStudio Jan 5, 2013 3:12 PM (in response to (Shaun_Behl))
I'm having a similar problem... my Illustrator will crash when saving or just will save the document as a pdf not .ai format.
Tried resetting preferences and tried the printer thing... it's not working for me... that or I'm just not doing it correctly.
I own a Mac OS X version 10.5.8
if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated.
21. Re: Illustrator CS4 Crash on Save help!ChiBStudio Jan 9, 2013 2:13 PM (in response to ChiBStudio)
Hey, just wanna post that I was able to figure out my problem... I had originally made my own post (before I saw this one) so here is the post I had made: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4876056#4876056i
and basically my solution was this:
To fix this, all I had to do was right click on the file, go to get more info (or apparently press command "i") and down where it says "open with" select adboe illustrator. This will change the file to the correct .ai format and save all future files as the correct .ai format as well. If you just try to right click the file and click "open with" and select illustrator, the file will not open.


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Obamas College Classmate: The Obama Scandal is at Columbia
Posted by Wayne Root on August 7, 2012 From The Blaze.com on Monday
By Wayne Allyn Root
I am President Obamas classmate at Columbia University, Class of 83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. Its his college records. Call it gut instinct but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and its a bad one that threatens to bring down his Presidency. Gut instinct is how Ive made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.
Obama and his infamous strategist David Axelrod understand how to play political hardball, the best its ever been played. Team Obama has decided to distract Americas voters by condemning Mitt Romney for not releasing enough years of his tax returns. Its the perfect cover. Obama knows the best defense is a bold offense. Just keep attacking Mitt and blaming him for secrecy and evasion, while accusing him of having a scandal that doesnt exist. Then ask your lapdog Senator Harry Reid to chase the Frisbee. The U.S. Senate Majority Leader is now making up stories out of thin air, about tax returns he knows nothing about. Its a cynical, brilliant and vicious strategy. Make Romney defend, so he cant attack the real Obama scandal.
This is classic Axelrod. Obama has won several elections in his career by slandering his opponents and leaking sealed documents. Not only do these insinuations and leaks ruin the credibility and reputation of Obamas opponents, they keep them on the defensive and off Obamas trail of sealed documents.
By attacking Romneys tax records, Obamas socialist cabal creates a problem that doesnt exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he off message but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.
But I have the answer for Romney. A challenge that shuts up Obama forever.
Its time to call Obamas bluff. Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago, that you are afraid to let Americas voters see it? If its THAT bad, maybe its something the voters ought to see. Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.
My bet is that Obama will never unseal his records- never EVER. Because they contain information that could destroy his chances for re-election. Once this challenge is made public, my prediction is youll never hear about Mitts tax returns ever again. End of story.
But why are the college records, of a 51 year old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.
If anyone should have questions about Obamas record at Columbia University, its me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of 83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought Id heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia has ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.
But dont take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.
Now all of this mystery could be easily and instantly dismissed if Obama released his Columbia transcripts to the media. But even after serving as President for 3 1/2 years he refuses to unseal his college records. Shouldnt the media be as relentless in pursuit of Obamas records as Romneys? Shouldnt they be digging for Obamas dirt with the same boundless enthusiasm as Mitts?
The first question Id ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So lets assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? Hes President of the free world, for gosh sakes. Hes commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Whod care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then whats the problem? Doesnt that make the media suspicious? Something doesnt add up.
Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place? And if his grades at Columbia were awful, howd he ever get into Harvard Law School? So again those grades must have been great, right? So why spend millions to keep them sealed?
Third, how did a poor kid pay for all these fancy schools? If he had student loans or scholarships, dont American students need good grades to maintain student loans?
I can only think of one answer that would explain this mystery.
So heres my gut. I believe Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. Did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? Im betting not. He was abandoned by his mother and sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. No one was paying much attention to young Obama, so his citizenship was never changed back. But suddenly as he nears college-age Obama learns that foreign students have a much easier path being admitted to U.S. universities. And even more amazingly, they get loads of aid and scholarships to attend college for free- something unavailable to U.S. citizens.
So a plan is hatched. Obama uses his Indonesian passport and citizenship to get into college. Suddenly even Ivy League Columbia University is a possibility- for a foreign student from Indonesia. And its all paid for by the taxpayers.
That would explain how a poor student who rarely attended class and got mediocre grades, and with no money, was able to get accepted and pay for Occidental, Columbia and Harvard Law. The door magically opened for a foreign student with an exotic background.
The sad reality is there is some U.S. student- a Valedictorian of his or her school- who never got to go to Columbia or Harvard Law because Barry Soetoro took their place.
That would also explain the great mystery of how in the summer of 1981 Barry Soetoro was able to travel to Pakistan when no U.S. citizen was allowed to travel there. Did he use his Indonesian passport?
Of course a foreign student isnt qualified to serve as President of the United States. So that secret had to be sealed and covered up for the rest of all time. In 2007 everything happened so fast no one could even ask questions ask Hillary! That explains why a sitting President of the United States would spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep his past sealed.
If you could unseal Obamas Columbia University records I believe youd find that:
A) He rarely ever attended class.
B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.
C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.
D) He never paid for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreigner like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia
And lastly, why do his classmates at Columbia not remember Obama? Was he a ghost? Did he never show up at class? My educated guess is that he was too busy smoking pot, attending Marxist meetings, and plotting the destruction of the U.S. economy and the overthrow of capitalism. Dont laugh. Its working.
If you think Im fishing then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?
If its okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romneys taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obamas Columbia Class of 83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.
Its time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obamas bluff.
Oh and one more thing Mitt. Tell Harry Reid youll release all of your tax returns when Harry Reid releases all of his. Inquiring minds want to know how Harry Reid entered the U.S. Senate with no assets and became one of the wealthiest United States Senators?
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The Republican fear and hate machine, fueled by Karl Rove, has techno quivering:
I am frankly scared of him and his politics. It's not hate, it fear.
Missing in virtual all of the Republican attack rhetoric, and in the post that matty made at the start, are any specifics about what in the world you are afraid of. Obama has done 2 significant things in his first term: a health care bill patterened after that of Romney, but benefiting from several years of implementation experience, and a rather small stimulus bill. Both of these approaches are, in fact, consistent with the proposals of moderate Republicans before the wing nuts started throwing them out. The most credible analysis of the Health Care bill concludes that it will save Federal money over the longer term. The bill that was crafted is uniquely American, and relies on the private sector and some rather modest regulation, rather than the public sector for implementation. In that sense it is dramatically un-socialistic.
Contrast that to the ravings of matty's source. Obama may have taken classes from a communist, and has said things that sound vaguely like something a communist said. In this manner, through vague character assassination, the wing nuts have characterized Federal adoption of the signature accomplishment of a moderate Republican as a communist plot.
From the west coast, it looks like the John Birch Society has taken over the tattered remnants of Lincoln's party. Wide eyed paranoia substitutes for reasoning. When claims are made that show what socialistic things Obama has done, or plans to do, it turns out that they are wrong. False--but ginned up by those employed by the Republican party.
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The reality is that the majority of Americans don't want the ACA shoved down our throats. More government = less freedoms & more dependency.
We need reform, but trying to solve it with one big plan that no one understands, and where guesstimates on costs have almost tripled since it's inception, doesn't provide a sense of comfort and trust for most of us.
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Mac there is only so much you can ignore, the point is obama has a very different view of the past and the future of this country. Is it not fair to know a mans ideology and beliefs if they affect my children's future? The evidence of obamas ideology are overwhelming, they may not bother you , but they bother many folks tremendously. Even many honest liberals find his demonizing of the rich to be nauseating and dishonest to say the least.
The rich are not the problem, spending , corruption, over regulation, waste, entitlement dependency that has swelled under obama , and a poorly written, unpopular, economy crippling, health care bill are the problem.
Face it Mac, the clown can not run on his record, because it is full of broken promises, lies, reckless spending, and a deep divide orchestrated in perfect Alinsky fashion.
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Items on this page are archived alphabetically by last name. Blue titles are "hot links" to more information . . .
Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn -- Terrorists And Communists
Bill A
William Charles Ayers (born December 26, 1944) is an American elementary education theorist and former leader in the anti-war movement that opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He is known for the radical nature of his activism, which began within the anti-war movement of the 1960s. In 1969 he co-founded the violent radical left organization the Weather Underground, which conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s. He is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.
Bernardine Rae Dohrn (née Ohrnstein, born January 12, 1942) is an American former leader of the Anti-Vietnam War radical organization Weather Underground. She is an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University School of Law and the Director of Northwestern's Children and Family Justice Center.
David Axelrod -- Fellow Traveler
David Axelrod also has connections that that stretch back to post-War Chicago communism. Did I mention his mom was a writer at a commie newspaper?
While a New Yorker by birth, David Axelrod studied political science at the University of Chicago in the early 1970s. Later, while a start-out journalist with the Hyde-Park Herald, Axelrod was mentored by two older journalists cum political activists, Don Rose and David S. Canter.
Derrick Bell -- Racist
Andrew Kaczynski says It was perhaps Barack Obama's most intense immersion in the charged campus racial politics of the late 1980s and early 1990s: As President of the Harvard Law Review in the spring of his final year there, 1991, he aligned himself with Professor Derrick Bell's dramatic protest for diversity on the faculty of Harvard Law School.
Carl Davidson -- Maoist-Communist
Davidson was a former leader of the SDS and a Maoist. In the mid 1990s Carl Davidson was leading activist in the Chicago New Party, where he worked closely with New Party member and candidate Barack Obama. He was also one of the organizers for Obama's 2002 anti-war speech. Davidson was the webmaster for the website, Progressives for Obama, which posts blogs from other 60s radicals like Tom Hayden and Bill Fletcher, who created the website and its agenda.
Frank Marshall Davis -- Communist
Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, "Dreams From My Father," refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
Anita Dunn -- Maoist
Obama administration Communications Director Anita Dunn commended the wisdom of mass murdering Communist Chairman Mao in her address to high school students this past June. Dunn cited Mao as one of her two favorite political philosophers.
Jodie Evans -- Code Pink -- Socialist
Evans rose to prominence via her role in Code Pink for Peace as a radical activist and Democratic fund-raiser. Before Obama, Evans vigorously endorsed the Democrat's most important issue, hating President Bush. Right after hating President Bush, Evans hates "the War" -- any war except the ones our enemies are engaged in. Right after that it's hating her ex-husband, Westside financier Max Palevsky.
Sam Graham-Felsen -- Socialist/Communist
Graham-Felsen ran the Obama campaign's blog. He spent time in France taking part in labor riots, has written for a socialist magazine, hung a communist flag in his home, and was a fan of Marx while at Harvard.
Gregory Galluzzo -- Socialist/Communist Student Of Alinsky
A former Jesuit priest and executive director of the Gamaliel Foundation, Galluzzo was interview by New Republic's Ryan Lizza and showed him the training manual he uses with new organizers. Galluzzo told Lizza that many new trainees have an aversion to Saul Alinsky's gritty approach because they come to organizing as idealists rather than realists. Galluzzo, along with fellow trainer Mike Kruglik, schooled Obama in Alinsky tactics. The Developing Communities Project, Obama's first employer in Chicago, was part of the Gamaliel network of organizations.
Patrick Gaspard -- Socialist/Communist
In June 2009 Patrick Gaspard, a Brooklyn-based, 41-year-old Democratic operative, became White House director of the Office of Political Affairs.
Gaspard's ties to the groups behind ACORN-the groups that helped President Obama during his Chicago days-Democratic Socialists of America and the Communist Party offshoot Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism...
Like Obama, Patrick Gaspard wrote poetry. Like Obama , Patrick Gaspard grew up admiring third world leftists and revolutionaries. He reportedly idolized Aime Cesaire, a radical poet/politician from the French colony of Martinique.
Kevin Jennings -- Queer -- his word
Fifty-three Republican congressmen yesterday demanded that Obama fire his embattled "Safe Schools Czar," Kevin Jennings. Mr. Jennings' bizarre sexual agenda for American grade schools is one reason Obama should dump this dangerous radical.
Mr. Jennings wrote the foreword to a 1998 book titled, "Queering Elementary Education." The book he endorsed was a collection of essays by different authors who supported teaching young children about homosexuality. Mr. Jennings' foreword explains why he thinks it is important to start educating children about homosexuality as early as activist-educators can get away with doing so.
Jeff Jones -- Terrorist
Jeff Jones is a co-author of Obama's Stimulus Bill. He used to be a terrorist. Jones was a national officer in Students for a Democratic Society, a founding member of Weatherman, and a leader of the Weather Underground.
Jones is part of the Apollo Group, which was founded by Van Jones -- Obama's "Green Czar." The Apollo Group, under Jeff and Van Jones direction, basically wrote Barack Obamas stimulus bill.
During World War II, Jones' father was a pacifist and conscientious objector who was assigned for the duration of the war, to a civilian work camp in the Sierra Mountains of California. Ironic, a pacifist breading a terrorist.
Van Jones -- Communist And "Rowdy Black Nationalist"
Jones was the leader and founder of a radical group, the communist revolutionary organization Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM.
STORM worked with known communist leaders. It led the charge in black protests against various issues, including a local attempt to pass Proposition 21, a ballot initiative that sought to increase the penalties for violent crimes and require more juvenile offenders to be tried as adults.Speaking to the East Bay Express, Jones said he first became radicalized in the wake of the 1992 Rodney King riots, during which time he was arrested. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."
"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next 10 years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary," he said.
Marilyn Katz -- Head of Security -- SDS
Marilyn Katz is a Chicago public relations consultant and political operative, who has known David Axelrod for 30 years. Katz claims it was she who introduced Obama to the "activist network" in Chicago.
Rashid Khalidi -- PLO Spokesman
Rashid Khalidi, an apologist and spokesman for the Palestinian Libertion Organization (PLO), is the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University, and Director of the Middle East Institute (MEI) at Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs. In his role as MEI Director, Khalidi presides over a $300,000 annual grant from the federal government. He ranks among the most prominent members of the Middle Eastern studies community in the United States. His books are among the most frequently assigned works on the Middle East in American college syllabi. Arab and American media outlets alike seek him out regularly as a leading authority on the Middle East. In the 1990s, Obama and his wife were regular dinner guests at Khalidi's Chicago home. During the 2000 election cycle, Mr. and Mrs. Khalidi organized a fundraiser for Barack Obama's unsuccessful congressional bid.
Mike Klonsky -- Communist
Klonsky is an unabashed communist whose current mission is to spread Marxist ideology in the American classroom. Obama funded him to the tune of nearly $2 million. Obama, moreover, gave Klonsky a broad platform to broadcast his ideas: a "social justice" blog on the official Obama campaign website.
Mike Kruglik -- Socialist/Communist Student Of Alinsky
Taught Barack Obama in the Alinsky method.
John L. McKnight -- Socialist Student Of Alinsky
Another of Obamas "community organizing mentor," McKnight taught Barack about community organizing while they were both working with the Gamaliel Foundation -- a Saul Alinsky production. John McKnight is also a former ACLU director and sits on the board of the National Peoples Action (NPA), another leftist community organizing group. He teaches at Northwestern University and he wrote a letter of recommendation to Harvard for Obama.
Khalid Al-Mansour -- Mystery Man
Khalid al-Mansour is the "mystery man" that former Manhattan Borough Chairman Percy Sutton named as having aided Barack Obama financially at Harvard Law School. He also mentored Black Panthers founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale in the early 1960s -- video.
He met and befriended Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the worlds 19-thealthiest person, when the prince was studying at Menlo College in California in the late 1970s.
Signs of al-Mansours work exists in Malaysia, Brazil, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, and spans four decades in the United States,
Saul Mendelson -- Socialist
State Senator Barack Obama probably knew Saul Mendelson through their mutual activism in Independent Voters of Illinois, an organization investigated for communist infiltration as far back as the 1940s.
On March 13th 1998, Saul Mendelson, a lifelong socialist activist died in Chicago. Mendelson had been a member of various Trotskyist factions in the 1930s and '40s before joining the US Socialist Party and later DSA. In 1983 Saul Mendelson played a significant role in the election of Harold Washington.
The Saul Mendelson Memorial Service was held on Sunday, March 29, 1998, at the First Unitarian Church, Chicago.
According to Chicago DSA leader, the late Carl Marx Shier (who addressed the gathering);
At the memorial service held at the 1st Unitarian Church on South Woodlawn, speaker after speaker recounted Saul's contributions...speakers included Deborah Meier...Senator Carol Moseley Braun, Alderman Toni Preckwinkle, State Senator Barak Obama, Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie and a good friend from New York, Myra Russell.
The concluding remarks were made by an old friend, Harriet Lefley, who is now Professor of Psychology at the University of Miami Medical School.
Deborah Meier was a former Trotskyist and Socialist Party comrade of Saul Mendelson's and a leader of Chicago and Boston DSA.
Alderman Toni Preckwinkle and Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, are both leftist Democrats with ties to Chicago's socialist community. Both endorsed Barack Obama in his successful 2004 bid for the US Senate.
Eulogies also came from Quinn Brisben, (Socialist Party presidential candidate 1976, 1992) and David McReynolds (Socialist Party presidential candidate 1980, 2000).
Abner Mikva -- Progressive/Communist
After service in WW2, Abner Mikva studied law at the University of Chicago. In 1949 communist led students went on strike at the City College of New York. Twenty University of Chicago campus leaders met in April that year, to show support for their New York counterparts, Abner Mikva among them. Several of the 20 had communist connections including Elias Snitzer and Sid Socolar, both of whom later took the 5th Amendment during government security hearings when questioned over alleged Communist Party membership.
Linda Rae Murray -- Communist
Linda Rae Murray, pictured here with Barack Obama and Quentin Young, also left the Communist Party in 1992 and has since worked closely with Committees of Correspondence and Democratic Socialists of America. She is a prominent Chicago health professional and the the immediate past president of Quentin Young's Health and Medicine Policy Research Group. Murray is a leading and very active advocate for "single payer" and has just been elected president of the American Public Health Association -- a post Quentin Young held in 1988.
Alice Palmer -- Communist
In 1995, Alice Palmer represented the state's 13th District, and decided to run for the United States Congress. She hand-picked Barack Obama to run to replace her.
She was an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a communist front group, an affiliate of the World Peace Council, a Soviet front group. She participated in the World Peace Council's 1983 Prague Assembly, part of the Soviet launch of the nuclear-freeze movement. In June 1986, while editor of the Black Press Review, she wrote an article for the Communist Party USA's newspaper, the People's Daily World, now the People's Weekly World. It detailed her experience attending the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and how impressed she was by the Soviet system. Palmer gushed at the "Soviet plan to provide people with higher wages and better education" and spoke of the efficiency of the Soviets' most recent five-year plan, attributing its success to "central planning." She praised their "comprehensive affirmative action program, which they have stuck to religiously -- if I can use the word -- since 1917."
Zach Pollet -- Weatherman
Former Weatherman, Zach Pollet, became ACORNs political director and the head of ACORNs Project Vote, now embroiled in voter fraud investigations in several states.
Tony Rezko -- Fixer
Antoin "Tony" Rezko (born July 1955) is a political fundraiser, restaurateur, and real estate developer in Chicago, Illinois, convicted on several counts of fraud and bribery in 2008. Rezko has been involved in fundraising for local Illinois Democratic and Republican politicians since the 1980s. After becoming a major contributor to Rod Blagojevich's successful gubernatorial election, Rezko assisted Blagojevich in setting up the state's first Democratic administration in twenty years. Rezko was able to have business associates appointed onto several state boards. Rezko and several others were indicted on federal charges in October 2006, for using their connections to the state boards to demand kickbacks from businesses that wanted to do business with the state. While the others pleaded guilty to the charges, Rezko pleaded not guilty and was found guilty of 16 of the 24 charges filed against him.
Wade Rathke -- Weatherman
Former Weatherman Rathke is the founder of Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN). The group has had its federal funding cut within the last several days over charges of widespread corruption among many of its affiliate offices across the country. The organization was captured on video advising a pair of undercover journalists from Big Government.com on how to evade taxes and set up a brothel featuring underage child sex slaves. Rathke and brother, Dale, have left ACORN after a nearly-$1 million embezzlement scandal. He then foundedsurpriseACORN International.
Joel Rogers -- Founder Of The Socialist New Party
A sociology and law professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Joel Rogers is an influential figure in progressive politics. He is the author of several books, works as a contributing editor for The Nation and Boston Review, and has founded some of the most powerful leftist organizations and coalitions in the United States. Newsweek named Rogers one of the 100 Americans most likely to shape U.S. politics and culture in the 21st century, and Glenn Beck has called him "the man behind [Barack] Obama."
Socialist Organization
Obama's Circle Shows an In-depth Socialist Past.
George Soros -- Republic Enemy #1
I don't even know where to begin with this guy.
Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)
Meet the Students for Democratic Society (SDS) Central Committee. Click the link to view their organization chart. It's amazing how many of these extreme far-left whackjobs have only one degree of separation from Barack Obama.
Percy Sutton -- Fixer
New evidence has emerged that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was closely associated as early as age 25 to a key adviser to a Saudi billionaire who had mentored the founding members of the Black Panthers.
Madeline Talbot -- ACORN
Madeleine Talbot was a leader at Chicago Acorn. Talbot was so impressed by Obamas organizing skills that she invited him to help train her own staff.
Talbot turns out to have been a key leader of that attempt by Acorn to storm the Chicago City Council (during a living-wage debate). In a deliberate bit of what radicals call direct action, orchestrated by Acorns Madeleine Talbot. As Talbot was led away handcuffed, charged with mob action and disorderly conduct, she explicitly justified her actions in storming the meeting. This was the woman who first drew Obama into his alliance with Acorn, and whose staff Obama helped train.
Quentin Young -- Communist and Democratic Socialists Of America
DSA member, former communist and long time Obama friend.
The New Zeal blog is reporting that Dr. Quentin Young has been a close friend, personal physician and political mentor to Barack Obama for more than 20 years. He is the father of the US socialized healthcare movement and proudly admits to having tutored his friend Barack Obama in the subject.
Young, a member of Democratic Socialists of America, was a member of the Young Communist League in his teens. He was also accused of membership of the Bethune Club of the Communist Party ( a party doctor's group) by a government commission investigating the 1968 Democratic Party Convention riots in Chicago.
Young has been the US's most active proponent of "single payer" or socialzed healthcare for decades -- firstly through his medical committee for Human Rights, then his Physicians for a National Health Program and his Health and Medicine Policy Research Group.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright -- Black Marxist
Leftist black nationalist preacher, who preached African-American unity through antipathy toward whites. The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, who acted as Obama's personal spiritual adviser, is militantly Afrocentric. His website proudly claimed, "We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."
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Wow Marty.. Thanks for all that research. Just typing that all out must have taken a long time.
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Just one rebuttal to matty's nonsense. Van Jones is an activist in Oakland and co-founder of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, a very effective organization for dealing with poverty issues. Here are a few of his accomplishments and honors:
Awards & Honors
Visiting Fellow in Collaborative Economics at Presidio Graduate School
Member of the international Ashoka Fellowship
Rolling Stones 12 Leaders Who Get Things Done in 2012
A 2005 World Economic Forum Young Global Leader
One of TIME Magazines 100 Most Influential People in the World in 2009
One of Fast Companys 12 Most Creative Minds on Earth
One of Essence Magazines 25 Most Inspiring African Americans in 2008
One of Ebony Magazines 2011 Power 150
Former distinguished visiting professor at Princeton University
Former Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress and American Progress Action Fund
Of course, the Koch's and other oilies attacked him because he had proposals to green the economy. Can't have that.
Oh, by the way, he is black. I'm sure that doesn't affect matty or his sleazy sources.
I can tell there is a pony around here somewhere...
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mat-ty wrote:
Items on this page are archived alphabetically by last name. Blue titles are "hot links" to more information . . .
An astonishing copy 'n paste from somewhere. I can't decide if you're naturally funny or a joke.
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Seems like ghost of Joseph McCarthy is alive and working hard to keep folks like mat-ty riled up and angry. Under every stone out there is a Communist, Maoist, Marxist or Socialist ready to overwhelm freedom in America. But even more daunting is the thought that President Obama is their ringleader. Folks like techno900 are full of fear and loathing at the thought that Obama could potentially win the election in November. Wow, unbelievable!
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I found some key info on the REAL Obama !
This is great stuff! Intercepted!!
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Conflict-Ridden CBS 60 Minutes 'Journalist' Defends NSA Propaganda Piece By Insulting All His Critics
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After a week or so of silence, Miller finally decided to respond to his critics, by insulting them all and claiming that only the great and mighty John Miller does real reporting. Everyone who criticized the report is nothing more than angry bloggers in pajamas. David Carr, at the NY Times spoke to Miller:
Mr. Miller was more than happy to explain his N.S.A. segment, which he said he would not change if he had the chance.... He is nothing if not confident, dismissing his critics as ankle-biting, agenda-ridden bloggers who could not be compelled to get out of their pajamas and do actual reporting.Nearly everything said above is wrong or misleading -- like the comments he got from his buddies at the NSA. Many of the people who criticized Miller's infomercial are well-known and successful reporters with long histories of investigative reporting. For example, New Yorker reporter Ryan Lizza absolutely trashed Miller's report, and Lizza recently wrote what I think is one of the absolutely most comprehensive and well-researched pieces on the NSA stuff. Other critics included Glenn Greenwald, who, it's difficult to argue, hasn't done some rather impressive reporting recently on these subjects. Then there's Spencer Ackerman, who has done amazing investigative work concerning the intelligence community and law enforcement for years. And he did a wonderful piece totally debunking the lies the NSA told in the 60 Minutes piece -- that is, the stuff John Miller let go through without questioning any of it. To argue that real investigative reporters weren't criticizing his piece is just wrong. Sure, some of us may be bloggers in our pajamas (guilty!), but to pretend that's where all the criticism came from isn't just lame, it's wrong. Besides, I really thought we were past the age where complaining about "bloggers in pajamas" was considered a thing to do.
"I fully reject the criticism from you and others," he told me. "The N.S.A. story has been a fairly one-way dialogue. There has been no conversation and when you do hear from the N.S.A., it is in a terse, highly vetted statement."
"We went there, we asked every question we wanted to, listened to the answers, followed up as we wished, and our audience can decide what and who they believe. As we constructed it, the N.S.A. was a story about a debate, not a villain, and we added to that debate with important information. I fail to understand how a shrill argument for the sake of creating televised drama would have accomplished anything."
As for the idea that the NSA story had been a "one-way dialogue," that's also just ridiculously false. I mean, when a large part of the federal government is on your side, the idea that the NSA's side of the story wasn't being told is laughable. Each week on the usual Sunday talk programs, NSA defenders seem to dominate the airwaves. While it might not be Keith Alexander or James Clapper directly, plenty of surrogates are out there listing out the talking points.
But it's that final paragraph that's really the most maddening -- this idea that "well, we asked questions and now it's up to the audience to decide who to believe." That's bullshit. That's not reporting. Reporting is about uncovering the truth. Bad reporting is, as journalism professor Jay Rosen (who also criticized Miller's reporting) calls it: "he said, she said" journalism where you write down what everyone says and then let the public sort it out for themselves who's full of shit. In this case, it was even worse, because Miller didn't even do the "she said" side. He provided the "he said" without any pushback to clearly bogus statements, and now wants to claim it's okay because the public can figure it out? Really?
Furthermore, what "important information" did they add to the debate? There was nothing in the report that revealed anything new or valuable at all. There was a scare-mongering story about a "BIOS" attack that was quickly shown to have been reported incorrectly (one security expert noted that it was gibberish, rather than anything real). That was about it.
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Raman Spectroscopy could be quicker and more reliable than traditional biopsy method.
A new technique using laser beams could help detect bladder cancer, scientists have said.
Researchers said that the technique, called Raman Spectroscopy (RS), which involves shining a light beam on to a sample of tissue to reveal any abnormalities, could be quicker and more reliable than the current biopsy method.
Diagnosis could be made almost instantly while biopsy results can take up to two weeks, they said.
The scientists, from the University of Dundee, examined 14 patients at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee who had symptoms of bladder cancer.
Their study, published in Analytical and Biological Chemistry, found that diagnosis made using RS was consistent with the biopsy results in 13 cases.
Dr Ghulam Nabi, lead researcher, suggested that RS has potential to be used to make less-invasive and quicker diagnoses.
He said: "Obviously, the earlier we diagnose cancer, the better the prognosis is for the patient.
"There are some specific difficulties in making a reliable early diagnosis of bladder cancer, and very often it is not diagnosed until the cancer has manifested itself as a variety of symptoms.
"What we have been looking to do is develop an early and reliable diagnosis of urinary bladder cancer. Raman spectroscopy tells us about technical structure of tissue before morphological changes in structure happen as a result of the cancer developing.
"The time that passes between a patient having a biopsy and receiving their results is an extremely anxious one for patients and their families. We believe that RS can remove this anxiety by providing a quick diagnosis and our results so far show that it does indeed show potential as a reliable tool for diagnosis.
"What we need to do now is expand our study population and refine the process until it is as reliable as biopsy but without the negative side-effects."
RS has also been used to discover counterfeit drugs and to investigate the chemical composition of historical documents.