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With the 5th selection of the all-time NBA Draft, I am proud to select Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, C, Bucks/Lakers.
Season Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS +------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+ 1969-70 22 MIL NBA 82 43.1 11.4 22.1 5.9 9.1 14.5 4.1 3.5 28.8 1970-71 23 MIL NBA 82 40.1 13.0 22.5 5.7 8.3 16.0 3.3 3.2 31.7 1971-72 24 MIL NBA 81 44.2 14.3 24.9 6.2 9.0 16.6 4.6 2.9 34.8 1972-73 25 MIL NBA 76 42.8 12.9 23.3 4.3 6.1 16.1 5.0 2.7 30.2 1973-74 26 MIL NBA 81 43.8 11.7 21.7 3.6 5.2 3.5 11.0 14.5 4.8 1.4 3.5 2.9 27.0 1974-75 27 MIL NBA 65 42.3 12.5 24.4 5.0 6.6 3.0 11.0 14.0 4.1 1.0 3.3 3.2 30.0 1975-76 28 LAL NBA 82 41.2 11.1 21.1 5.5 7.8 3.3 13.5 16.9 5.0 1.5 4.1 3.6 27.7 1976-77 29 LAL NBA 82 36.8 10.8 18.7 4.6 6.5 3.2 10.0 13.3 3.9 1.2 3.2 3.2 26.2 1977-78 30 LAL NBA 62 36.5 10.7 19.4 4.4 5.6 3.0 9.9 12.9 4.3 1.7 3.0 3.4 2.9 25.8 1978-79 31 LAL NBA 80 39.5 9.7 16.8 4.4 5.9 2.6 10.2 12.8 5.4 1.0 4.0 3.5 2.9 23.8 1979-80 32 LAL NBA 82 38.3 10.2 16.9 0.0 0.0 4.4 5.8 2.3 8.5 10.8 4.5 1.0 3.4 3.6 2.6 24.8 1980-81 33 LAL NBA 80 37.2 10.5 18.2 0.0 0.0 5.3 6.9 2.5 7.8 10.3 3.4 0.7 2.9 3.1 3.1 26.2 1981-82 34 LAL NBA 76 35.2 9.9 17.1 0.0 0.0 4.1 5.8 2.3 6.4 8.7 3.0 0.8 2.7 3.0 2.9 23.9 1982-83 35 LAL NBA 79 32.3 9.1 15.5 0.0 0.0 3.5 4.7 2.1 5.4 7.5 2.5 0.8 2.2 2.5 2.8 21.8 1983-84 36 LAL NBA 80 32.8 9.0 15.5 0.0 0.0 3.6 4.9 2.1 5.2 7.3 2.6 0.7 1.8 2.8 2.6 21.5 1984-85 37 LAL NBA 79 33.3 9.2 15.3 0.0 0.0 3.7 5.0 2.1 5.8 7.9 3.2 0.8 2.1 2.5 3.0 22.0 1985-86 38 LAL NBA 79 33.3 9.6 16.9 0.0 0.0 4.3 5.6 1.7 4.4 6.1 3.5 0.8 1.6 2.6 3.1 23.4 1986-87 39 LAL NBA 78 31.3 7.2 12.7 0.0 0.0 3.1 4.4 1.9 4.8 6.7 2.6 0.6 1.2 2.4 3.1 17.5 1987-88 40 LAL NBA 80 28.9 6.0 11.3 0.0 0.0 2.6 3.4 1.5 4.5 6.0 1.7 0.6 1.2 2.0 2.7 14.6 1988-89 41 LAL NBA 74 22.9 4.2 8.9 0.0 0.0 1.6 2.2 1.4 3.1 4.5 1.0 0.5 1.1 1.3 2.6 10.1 +------------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+ 20 Seasons 1560 36.8 10.2 18.1 0.0 0.0 4.3 6.0 2.4 7.6 11.2 3.6 0.9 2.6 2.7 3.0 24.6
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There should be a run on Celtics before too long.
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Despite the photo malfunction, I believe Rhyme's selection is Shaquille O'Neal.
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Jesus, they got me hot linking for like an hour!
Word, I pick Shaq. I had a SWEET Kazaam movie picture up. What a flop.
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Who did -Slap- pick? I only see the NBA logo, so I must be missing something.
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Freak6 is on the clock. He has until 9 PM CST on Wednesday to make his selection.
Gentlemen, please remember to record the time of your selection in the post. I can never get the damn OM clock to function correctly. Also, if you announce who is on the clock that'd be helpful as well. Thanks!
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We were going pretty strong, but we have our first missed selection already. Ah well, whattaya gonna do?
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I wonder when Mad Yak selects Dirk?
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angryllama - Bill Russell, C Boston Celtics
This dude possibly should have gone #2, so I'll gladly sweep him up at pick #9. He's what Greg Oden can only dream of becoming, and is arguably the greatest defensive player to ever lace up the canvas kicks.
While Chamberlain was padding stats, Russell was winning championships.
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Full Name: William Felton Russell
Born: 2/12/34 in Monroe, La.
High School: McClymonds (Oakland)
College: San Francisco
Drafted: St. Louis Hawks, 1956
Transactions: Draft rights traded to Boston Celtics, 4/29/56
Height: 6-10; Weight: 220 lbs Honors: Elected to Naismith Basketball Basketball Hall of Fame (1975); NBA champion (1957, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '68, '69); NBA MVP (1958, '61, '62, '63, '65); All-NBA First Team (1959, '63, '65); Eight-time All-NBA Second Team; NBA All-Defensive Team (1969); 12-time NBA All-Star (1958-69); All-Star MVP (1963); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist (1956). Complete Bio | Summary
Bill Russell was the cornerstone of the Boston Celtics' dynasty of the 1960s, an uncanny shotblocker who revolutionized NBA defensive concepts. A five-time NBA Most Valuable Player and a 12-time All-Star, the angular center amassed 21,620 career rebounds, an average of 22.5 per game and led the league in rebounding four times. He had 51 boards in one game, 49 in two others and a dozen consecutive seasons of 1,000 or more rebounds.
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Bill Russell won 11 championships with the Celtics in 13 seasons.
Ken Regan/NBAE/Getty ImagesHis many individual accolades were well deserved, but they were only products of Russell's philosophy of team play. His greatest accomplishment was bringing the storied Celtics 11 championships in his 13 seasons. Until the ascent of Michael Jordan in the 1980s, Russell was acclaimed by many as the greatest player in the history of the NBA.
William Felton Russell was born on February 12, 1934, in Monroe, Louisiana. His family moved cross-country to the San Francisco Bay Area, where Bill attended McClymonds High School in Oakland. He was an awkward, unremarkable center on McClymonds's basketball team, but his size earned him a scholarship to play at the University of San Francisco, where he blossomed.
Russell grew to be a shade over 6-9, and he teamed with guard K. C. Jones to lead the Dons to 56 consecutive victories and NCAA Championships in 1955 and 1956 (although Jones missed four games of the 1956 tournament because his eligibility had expired). Russell was named the NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player in 1955.
Russell averaged 20.7 points and 20.3 rebounds in his three-year varsity career. By his senior season he had matured into a dominant force who could control a game at the defensive end. With the 1956 NBA Draft approaching, Boston Celtics Coach and General Manager Red Auerbach was eager to add Russell to his lineup. Auerbach had built a high-scoring offensive machine around guards Bob Cousy and Bill Sharman and undersized center Ed Macauley, but he hadn't been able to muster the defense and rebounding needed to transform the Celtics into a championship-caliber club. Russell, Auerbach felt, was the missing piece to the puzzle.
However, because of their second-place finish the year before, the Celtics would be picking too late in the draft to get Russell. And because Auerbach wanted to use a territorial selection to nab Holy Cross star Tom Heinsohn, Boston would forfeit its first-round pick altogether. So Auerbach began to think trade, and he set his sights on the St. Louis Hawks, who owned the second overall pick in the draft.
The first pick belonged to the Rochester Royals, but that team already had a promising young rebounder in Maurice Stokes, and Auerbach knew that Royals owner Les Harrison was not going to pay Russell the $25,000 signing bonus he was asking for. Rochester selected guard Sihugo Green, who played nine seasons in the league with five different teams (including, ironically, the Celtics in 1965-66).
St. Louis owner Ben Kerner was willing to talk trade, and the key was Macauley. The 6-8 center was a six-time All-Star at that point and a local hero in St. Louis, where he had grown up and then starred for St. Louis University. Auerbach could afford to give up Macauley if he was getting Russell, but it was not until Boston agreed to add rookie Cliff Hagan to the mix that Kerner consented to the trade. The deal brought the Hawks a championship in 1958, but it brought the Celtics a dynasty.
In that same draft, Boston added Heinsohn, who would be NBA Rookie of the Year for 1956-57, and K. C. Jones, Russell's college teammate who would also become a stalwart of the Boston juggernaut.
Russell didn't join the Celtics until December because he was a member of the 1956 U.S. Olympic basketball team, which won a gold medal at the Melbourne Games in November. The Celtics had bolted to a 13-3 start, and when Russell arrived he adapted quickly. Playing in 48 games, he pulled down 19.6 rpg, the best average in the league, while scoring 14.7 ppg.
Boston's starting five of Russell, Heinsohn, Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, and Jim Loscutoff was a high-octane unit. They posted the best regular-season record in the NBA in 1956-57, waltzed through the playoffs, and were heavily favored in the Finals against Bob Pettit's St. Louis Hawks. The teams traded victories until the series came down to a dramatic Game 7 in Boston. Tom Heinsohn scored 37 points for Boston, but the Celtics couldn't pull away. Last-second scores by the Hawks sent the game into overtime and then into a second extra period. The Celtics finally prevailed, 125-123, for their first NBA Championship.
In only part of a season Russell had added a new element to the Celtics and to professional basketball. For the previous few years, the Celtics had been an unstoppable offensive machine led by 20-point scorers Cousy and Sharman, both future Hall of Famers. But Boston had lacked the rebounding and defense to win it all. Now Russell brought a new level of defensive artistry, intimidating opponents with blocked shots and proving that it didn't take a scorer to dominate a game.
Energized by their championship, the Celtics won 14 straight games to start the 1957-58 season, and they kept rolling. In his first full season in the NBA, Russell took command and led the league with 22.7 rpg. Early in the season, against the Philadelphia Warriors, he set an NBA record for rebounds in a half by grabbing 32 and wound up with 49 for the contest. Although he was tough and durable, the slender Russell was not a muscleman or a big banger. His rebounding prowess derived from positioning, anticipating where the shot would come off of the rim and moving quickly to the ball. His game was as much analytical and mental as it was physical.
Boston posted the league's best regular-season record that year, finishing atop the Eastern Division at 49-23. The Celtics then returned to the NBA Finals for a rematch with the Hawks, who had won the West with a 41-31 mark. The teams split the first two games at Boston Garden, but when Russell went down with an ankle injury in Game 3, the Celtics' fortunes plummeted. With Russell ineffective the rest of the way, St. Louis won that game and two of the next three to take the series.
Russell was voted the NBA Most Valuable Player for 1957-58. Oddly enough, he was only named to the All-NBA Second Team. In fact, during the five years that Russell was voted league MVP, only twice did he make the All-NBA First Team. The argument was that, while other centers were better than Russell -- that is, they had more conventional skills -- no player meant more to his team.
Russell repeated as the NBA rebounding leader in 1958-59, grabbing 23.0 per game, the first of seven consecutive campaigns in which he averaged at least 23 boards. Russell was also known for extending his effort at critical moments, both within a game and within a season. Consequently, he typically improved his rebounding numbers during the playoffs, and in the 1959 postseason he pulled down 27.7 boards per game.
The Celtics reached the NBA Finals for a third straight season and regained the crown with a four-game sweep of the Minneapolis Lakers. Russell set a Finals record with 29.5 rpg in the series, and he helped launch the greatest championship run in the history of professional sports. Boston's 1959 title began an unprecedented and unequaled string of eight consecutive NBA Championships.
Interestingly, although Russell was not considered a skilled offensive player, he was a selective shooter and in his early years ranked regularly among the NBA's top five in field-goal percentage. In 1958-59, for example, his .457 mark was second in the league.
Russell's greatest adversary, Wilt Chamberlain, entered the NBA and joined the Philadelphia Warriors for the 1959-60 season, setting up a decade-long rivalry. The debate over who was the greater player would last even longer. Chamberlain put up incredible numbers during the period in which the two went head to head, but Russell helped the Celtics hang nine NBA championship flags in the Garden in his first 10 seasons.
As Celtics player Don Nelson told the Boston Herald, "There are two types of superstars. One makes himself look good at the expense of the other guys on the floor. But there's another type who makes the players around him look better than they are, and that's the type Russell was."
Chamberlain led the league in scoring (37.6 ppg) in his first season, and he took the rebounding crown from Russell, 27.0 to 24.0 rpg. The Celtics' center had one monstrous game, however, when he pulled down 51 rebounds against the Syracuse Nationals in the 1959-1960 season. It ranks as the second-best rebounding effort in NBA history, behind Chamberlain's 55 against the Celtics on the next season.
"There are two types of superstars. One makes himself look good at the expense of the other guys on the floor. But there's another type who makes the players around him look better than they are, and that's the type Russell was."
-- Don Nelson
What became clear, both during the 1959-60 season and over the next several years, was that basketball was a team game. As Russell later wrote: "To me, one of the most beautiful things to see is a group of men coordinating their efforts toward a common goal, alternately subordinating and asserting themselves to achieve real teamwork in action. I tried to do that, we all tried to do that, on the Celtics. I think we succeeded."
Chamberlain was great, but the Celtics were better. They improved their regular-season record to 59-16 in 1959-60, at one point running off 17 straight victories. They eliminated Chamberlain and the Warriors in the division finals, then met St. Louis again in the 1960 NBA Finals. Russell stepped up his play in the title series, setting an NBA Finals record with 40 rebounds in Game 2 (surpassed by Chamberlain with 41in 1967) . The Hawks extended the series to seven games, but Russell dominated Game 7, contributing 22 points and 35 rebounds as the Celtics won, 122-103, and notched their second consecutive championship.
While Russell was changing the way the NBA viewed defense, the league still appeared to be in an era of runaway offense, with Chamberlain leading the way. Even the defense-oriented Celtics averaged 124.5 points. Russell's impact on the game can't really be tracked through NBA statistics. Blocked shots were not an official statistic until 1973-74, and the league only recorded total rebounds, without distinguishing between offensive and defensive boards until that same season.
Russell was revolutionizing the game in ways that were clearly understood, even if they weren't measured. His ability to leave his man and slide over to cover an opponent driving to the hoop was startling. He was unmatched at swooping across the lane like a big bird to block and alter shots. The rest of the Celtics defenders began to funnel their men toward Russell and become more daring with their perimeter defense, knowing that he was looming behind.
All of this played mind games with opposing shooters near the basket and had a disrupting effect as they began to sense Russell's imposing presence. Furthermore, other centers started to model their own defensive play after Russell's, and while they might not have been as skillful at it, it changed the way the game was played. Interestingly, Russell's style of play also rejuvenated Boston's offense. Many of the Celtics' points now came when Russell plucked a defensive rebound and fired an outlet pass to Bob Cousy, who would start Boston's vaunted and deadly fast break.
The dynasty was beginning to establish itself under Red Auerbach, and "Boston Celtics" and "NBA champions" became practically synonymous as the decade progressed. The team was multitalented, with many great players, but the enduring image was that of Russell, his head thrust forward from the slight hunch of his shoulders, his eyes scanning the court, his long left arm snaking out to deflect a shot. Boston won the title again in 1960-61, and Russell was named NBA Most Valuable Player, the first of his three consecutive MVP Awards.
The next season, 1961-62, saw Russell register an 18.9 scoring average, his career high. Chamberlain's individual accomplishments were mind-boggling: he won the scoring title by averaging 50.4 points, while the team-oriented Celtics didn't place anybody in the top 10. The NBA players, voting for MVP, chose Russell over Chamberlain.
The Celtics added another future Hall of Famer, John Havlicek, in the 1962 NBA Draft and lost Bob Cousy to retirement at the end of the 1962-63 season. In what had become an annual routine, Boston won its fifth consecutive NBA title in 1963, and Russell claimed his third consecutive MVP Award.
The legendary center later called the 1963-64 Celtics team the best of his era. Although it was merely competent on offense, he felt it was the best defensive unit ever. Russell once again led the league in rebounding, with 24.7 rpg, his all-time high. The Celtics, rolling inexorably, topped the San Francisco Warriors in the Finals in five games, taking their sixth consecutive title, something no team in any sport at the major league level had accomplished before.
It was an era of such sustained achievement, for Russell and for the team, that even spectacular accomplishments seemed almost routine. Russell repeated as NBA rebounding leader in 1964-65, collecting 24.1 rpg, including a 49-rebound game against the Detroit Pistons that season. He also ranked fifth in the league in assists with 5.3 per game. The season's most dramatic moments came in Game 7 of the Eastern Division Finals, when the Celtics led, 110-109, with five seconds remaining against Chamberlain and the Philadelphia 76ers. Russell's inbounds pass hit a wire supporting the basket, giving the Sixers the ball with no time elapsed on the clock. Philadelphia's Hal Greer inbounded to Chet Walker, but Havlicek stole the ball to seal the victory.
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That moment as called by famed Celtics broadcaster Johnny Most is an NBA treasure. In his gravelly voice Most screamed, "Havlicek steals it. Over to Sam Jones. Havlicek stole the ball! It's all over! Johnny Havlicek stole the ball!"
The NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers was almost anticlimactic, as the Celtics claimed the championship in five games. For his play that season, Russell won his fifth and final NBA Most Valuable Player Award.
Following another NBA Championship in 1965-66, Red Auerbach retired, and Russell took over as player-coach the following season, becoming the first African-American coach in the league. He led Boston to a 60-21 regular-season record, but the Celtics finally had their string of championships snapped when they lost to a powerful Philadelphia 76ers team in the Eastern Division Finals. The Sixers went 68-13 in the regular season and is considered one of the league's best ever, trounced the Celtics in five games to advance to the NBA Finals.
After that one-year hiatus, Boston returned to form in 1967-68, recapturing the championship under Russell's direction. In the Eastern Division Finals, the club came back from a two-game deficit to force a seventh game with Chamberlain and the 76ers. The Celtics were leading, 97-95, with 34 seconds left when Russell took over. He sank a foul shot, blocked a shot by Walker, grabbed a rebound off a Greer miss, and fed the ball to Sam Jones, who made the final basket in a 100-96 triumph. Boston then beat Los Angeles in six games in the NBA Finals.
The 1968-69 season was even more gratifying. The aging Celtics barely made it into the playoffs with a 48-34 record, then caught fire in the postseason. In Russell's third year as player-coach, Boston repeated as NBA champion by defeating the Lakers, who had acquired Chamberlain, in a seven-game battle for the title. The great Celtics leader promptly retired, having guided the team to 11 championships in 13 years. Russell had amassed 21,620 career rebounds, second in NBA history only to Chamberlain's 23,924.
In 1973, Russell resurfaced as head coach and general manager of the Seattle SuperSonics. He took a team that had won only 26 games the year before and put it on a winning track, notching 36 victories the next season and then compiling a 43-39 record to earn a playoff berth in 1974-75. But Russell became frustrated at the players' reluctance to embrace his team concept. Some suggested that the problem was Russell himself; he was said to be aloof, moody and unable to accept anything but the Celtics' tradition. In any event, his enthusiasm for the task waned after his fourth season in 1976-77, and he departed.
Ironically, Lenny Wilkens guided Seattle to a championship two years later, preaching the same team concept that Russell had tried unsuccessfully to instill in his players. A decade after he left Seattle, Russell gave coaching another try, replacing Jerry Reynolds as coach of the Sacramento Kings early in the 1987-88 season. The team staggered to a 17-41 record, and Russell departed in midseason.
Between coaching stints Russell was most visible as a color commentator on televised basketball games. For a time he was paired with the equally blunt Rick Barry; the duo provided brutally frank commentary on the game. Russell was never comfortable in that setting, though, explaining to the Sacramento Bee, "The most successful television is done in eight-second thoughts, and the things I know about basketball, motivation and people go deeper than that." He also dabbled with acting, performing in a Seattle Children's Theatre show and an episode of Miami Vice and he wrote a provocative autobiography, Second Wind.
Russell's lack of consistent success in other endeavors hasn't diminished his place in basketball history, and he has had no shortage of postcareer honors over the years. In 1970, he was named to the NBA 25th Anniversary All-Time Team. In 1974, Russell was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. In 1980, he was named to the NBA 35th Anniversary All-Time Team. That same year, he was voted Greatest Player in the History of the NBA by the Professional Basketball Writers Association of America.
Although the arrival of Michael Jordan later in the decade may have reopened the debate over who was truly the game's best player, what remains irrefutable is that Russell radically changed people's thinking about how basketball games are won.
Career Statistics GFG%FT%RebsRPGAstsAPGPtsPPG963.440.56121,62022.54,1004.314,52215.1
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YrTeamGPPTSFG%FT%RPGAPGPFBOS: Boston Celtics.1956-57BOS4870642.7220.127.116.11431957-58BOS69114244.251.922.72.91811958-59BOS70116845.759.823.03.21611959-60BOS74135046.761.224.03.72101960-61BOS78132242.655.023.93.41551961-62BOS76143645.759.523.64.52071962-63BOS78130943.255.523.64.51881963-64BOS78116843.355.024.74.71901964-65BOS78110243.857.324.15.32041965-66BOS78100541.5184.108.40.206211966-67BOS81107545.461.021.05.82581967-68BOS7897742.553.718.64.62421968-69BOS7776243.352.619.34.9231TOTAL9631452244.056.12 2.54.32592
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Hakeem Olajuwon, C, Houston Rockets
Think about this: He brought back to back championships to HOUSTON. When has a sports franchise from Houston done anything besides these Rockets?
During his 18-year career, Nigeria-born Hakeem Olajuwon staked his claim as one of the greatest players in NBA history. Long considered a physical marvel since his days at the University of Houston, his aesthetic and productive play -- highlighted by his Houston Rockets' back-to-back NBA titles -- earned him a place among the game's best.
In 1993-94 he had a storybook season, becoming the first player to be named NBA MVP, NBA Defensive Player of the Year and NBA Finals MVP in the same season. The following season he rallied the Rockets from a sixth seed in the playoffs to their second straight NBA crown, making Houston the fifth NBA franchise ever to win back-to-back titles.
Hakeem Olajuwon was a force in the middle for 18 NBA seasons.
Olajuwon was the third of six children and acquired the basic values that pushed him to succeed from his parents, who were middle-class and owned a cement business in Lagos, Nigeria.
"They taught us to be honest, work hard, respect our elders, believe in ourselves," the NBA great has said.
Olajuwon, which translates into "always being on top," began playing basketball at the late age of 15. Olajuwon's high school, the Muslim Teachers College, was an entry in the basketball tournament at the All-Nigeria Teachers Sports Festival in Sokoto -- but Olajuwon was on the handball team. A fellow student approached the coach and asked if Olajuwon could play for the team. Permission was granted and a basketball superstar was born.
Two years later he enrolled at the University of Houston under the name of Akeem Abdul Olajuwon. He dropped references to "Abdul" prior to entering the NBA and officially adopted "Hakeem" on March 9, 1991. To paraphrase Shakespeare; a great basketball player by any other name is still a great basketball player.
Although his athletic career began as a soccer goalkeeper and handball player, which ultimately helped give him the footwork and agility to balance his overpowering strength and size in basketball, he quickly became a dominating player at Houston. He played three seasons at Houston and help push the Cougars into the Final Four each year.
In 1982, Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler were on a Houston squad that made it to the NCAA semifinals but lost 68-63 to the North Carolina Tar Heels, led by James Worthy and Michael Jordan. The next year in the semifinals, the Cougars -- by this time known as "Phi Slamma Jamma" for their above-the-rim play -- soared above an equally athletic Louisville squad 94-81 in perhaps the most exciting end-to-end, high-flying act the NCAA Final Four has ever seen. However, the Cougars were upset 54-52 in a thrilling championship game on a shot at the buzzer by North Carolina State, an overwhelming underdog.
In 1983-84, Olajuwon averaged 16.8 points and led the NCAA in rebounding (13.5 rpg), blocked shots (5.6 per game) and field-goal percentage (.675). He was a First Team All-America selection that season, but Patrick Ewing and the Georgetown Hoyas defeated Olajuwon's Cougars 84-75 in the championship game.
After the Rockets won a coin flip with the Portland Trail Blazers for the first pick in the 1984 NBA Draft -- one year before the institution of the Draft Lottery -- Houston selected Olajuwon. Although the talented Jordan was also available (he would be picked third by the Chicago Bulls), almost all in the basketball world thought Olujawon was the correct selection at No. 1.
One year earlier, the Rockets won a coin flip with the Indiana Pacers, allowing the franchise to select the University of Virginia's Ralph Sampson. Thus, the fickle flips of a coin created the "Twin Towers" of 7-0 Olajuwon and 7-4 Sampson -- two agile giants.
In his rookie year, Olajuwon averaged 20.6 points and 11.9 rebounds while shooting .538 from the field and finished second to Jordan in Rookie of the Year balloting. The Rockets went from a 29-53 record before Olajuwon's arrival to a 48-34 mark, but they were eliminated in five games by the Utah Jazz in the first round of the 1985 NBA Playoffs.
Olajuwon ranked fourth in the league in rebounding and second in blocked shots with 2.68 per game. He played in the 1985 NBA All-Star Game and was named to the NBA All-Rookie Team and the NBA All-Defensive Second Team. He and Sampson became the first teammates since Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor in 1970 to both average better than 20 points and 10 rebounds.
The next year, Olajuwon and Sampson powered the Rockets into the 1986 NBA Finals. On the way there, they defeated the reigning champion Los Angeles Lakers in a five-game Western Conference Finals. In the series' final three games, Olajuwon scored 40, 35 and 30 points to lead the Rockets. The Boston Celtics, champs in 1981 and 1984, had a formidable front line of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish and defeated the Rockets in six games.
In 1986-87, Sampson began to suffer from injuries and the following season he was traded to the Golden State Warriors. Olajuwon's production simply increased as he developed into one of the game's top big men. Olajuwon led the Rockets in 13 statistical categories, including scoring, rebounding, steals and blocked shots. He began a string of selections to the All-NBA First Team (1987 to 1989) and NBA All-Defensive First Team (1987, 1988 and 1990), and was the starting center for the Western Conference All-Stars four years in a row (1987-90).
Olajuwon regularly placed among the league leaders in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots and steals. He won rebounding titles in 1989 and 1990, averaging 13.5 and 14.0 boards, respectively. And in 1989 he became the first player to finish among the league's top 10 in scoring, rebounding, steals and blocked shots for two straight seasons. That same year against the Milwaukee Bucks, Olajuwon had 18 points, 16 rebounds, 11 blocks and 10 assists, recording the rare quadruple-double. He also led the NBA in blocked shots in 1989-90 with 4.59 per game and in 1990-91 at 3.95 per contest.
During this run, Olajuwon came back from two serious injuries. He took an elbow in the eye from the Chicago Bulls' Bill Cartwright in the middle of the 1990-91 season, suffering a blowout fracture of the bones that surround the eyeball and forcing him to miss the Rockets' next 25 games. In 1991-92, he missed seven contests early in the season after an episode of atrial fibrillation (an irregular heartbeat).
Despite Olajuwon's play, the Rockets had settled into mediocrity since the team's trip to the NBA Finals in 1986 -- Houston didn't win a playoff series from 1988 through 1992. But beginning in 1992-93, midway through his career, Olajuwon got even better, taking himself and the Rockets to new levels of success.
The man called "Hakeem the Dream" had now developed a set of patented moves with either his back to the basket or facing opponents, and he abused defenders with numerous fakes, all of which became known as the "Dream Shake."
Because of stagnated contract negotiations, many thought he had played his last game for Houston at the end of the 1991-92 campaign. But on a flight to Japan, where the Rockets played the first two games of the 1992-93 season against the Seattle SuperSonics, Olajuwon and Houston owner Charlie Thomas smoothed out their differences. In the next three seasons he would average 26.1 points, 27.3 points and 27.8 points, respectively.
Whether the contract squabbles had affected Olajuwon's 1991-92 performance may never be known, but that year he failed to make an All-NBA Team or an NBA All-Defensive Team for the first time in his career. And he certainly experienced a resurgence in 1992-93. Coach Rudy Tomjanovich began his first full season with the Rockets, preaching defense and imploring the team to feed off of Olajuwon's energy.
The eight-year veteran, who later in the season became a naturalized United States citizen on April 2, 1993, was simply spectacular throughout the year. He averaged 26.1 points, 13.0 rebounds and 4.17 blocks, which established him as the league-leader in blocked shots for the third time in four seasons. More importantly, he led a Rockets team that had finished 42-40 the previous year to a 55-27 mark and the Midwest Division championship.
At season's end, Olajuwon finished second to Charles Barkley in the voting for the NBA Most Valuable Player award. He was also named NBA Defensive Player of the Year for the first time, while reclaiming spots on the All-NBA First Team and the NBA All-Defensive First Team.
Akin to an athlete who shared his faith of Islam, Muhammad Ali, who devised the strategy of the rope-a-dope later in is career, Olajuwon introduced a new line of spins, fadeaway shots and jumpers, and he became virtually unstoppable on offense. The man called "Hakeem the Dream" had now developed a set of patented moves involving great footwork with ball and head fakes with either his back to the basket or facing opponents abusing defenders. All of which became known as the "Dream Shake."
During the 1995 postseason run culminating in Houston's second NBA championship, the Rockets defeated the San Antonio Spurs and the Orlando Magic, two teams with great centers who were left bewildered by Olajuwon's moves.
In a Life magazine story, San Antonio's David Robinson seemed perplexed. "Solve Hakeem?" said Robinson. "You don't solve Hakeem."
Orlando's Shaquille O'Neal felt the same way after going down in a Finals sweep . "He's got about five moves, then four countermoves," said a stunned O'Neal. " That gives him 20 moves."
This new Olajuwon had evolved after the dispute with management prompted him to reflect and then rededicate himself. His maturation as a player and in his faith carried onto the floor as a team leader, offensive powerhouse and defensive stalwart.
The transformation was apparent when the Rockets advanced to the 1993 Western Conference Semifinals. However, the team lost a tough Game 7, 103-100 in overtime, against a Seattle SupeSonics team led by Gary Payton and a young, explosive Shawn Kemp.
But in 1993-94, Olajuwon attained the pinnacle of achievement when he won both the league and NBA Finals MVP awards while leading Houston to its first-ever NBA crown. Following a brilliant regular season, the Houston center also earned his second straight NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award.
The Rockets won the title after a grueling seven-game defeat of the Patrick Ewing-led New York Knicks. The center's defensive prowess put an end to the Knicks' attempt to win the series in Game 6, when he blocked John Starks' potential game-tying three-point shot at the end of the game. The 10-year veteran was simply brilliant in the Finals, contributing 29.1 points, 9.1 rebounds and 3.86 blocks per game.
In 1994-95, Olajuwon had a career-best 27.8 ppg along with 10.8 rpg. Despite Olajuwon's impressive performance, the league's Most Valuable Player Award went to Robinson after he led the Spurs to the NBA's best record. Olajuwon also became the Rockets' all-time leading scorer when he passed Calvin Murphy early in the season. In February, Olajuwon was reunited with college teammate Drexler, who came over from the Portland Trail Blazers in a trade for forward Otis Thorpe.
While trying to adjust to Drexler's presence, the Rockets closed out the season in bumpy fashion and entered the playoffs seeded sixth in the Western Conference. But Drexler was terrific in the playoffs and Olajuwon averaged 33.0 points on .531 shooting from the field, 10.3 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.2 steals and 2.81 blocks per game in the postseason as Houston captured its second consecutive title. Matched against the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals, Olajuwon averaged 35.3 points to Robinson's 25.5.
In the NBA Finals, Houston met the Magic and the league's great young center, O'Neal. The two big men had similar numbers as Olajuwon averaged 32.8 points, 11.5 rebounds and 5.5 assists to O'Neal's 28.0 points, 12.5 rebounds and 6.3 assists. But the Rockets swept the series, making Houston the fifth NBA franchise to win back-to-back titles. For his spectacular play, Olajuwon was awarded his second consecutive NBA Finals MVP award.
Olajuwon believes that his religious faith supported his drive to a great career. During an NBA season he observes Islam's Ramadan, which includes periods of fasting. He would awaken before dawn to eat precisely seven dates -- the traditional Muslim fast-breaking food -- and to drink a gallon of water. He would follow with a prayer for strength and have no food or liquid until sunset.
When he played an afternoon game, he would pant for water -- but did not drink a drop. Still, he would say, "I find myself full of energy, explosive. And when I break the fast at sunset, the taste of water is so precious."
This transcendent dedication and performance earned him mention among the greatest winners in recent history, including Jordan, Bird, Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas.
After winning the championships, Olajuwon maintained his productive play over the next two seasons. However, the team was swept by the Sonics in the 1996 conference semifinals. And even with the addition of Barkley before the 1996-97 season, which reinvigorated the Rockets, the team lost in six games to the Jazz in the Western Conference Finals.
Beginning in the 1997-98 season, Olajuwon began to miss time due to injuries and played just 47 games that year. He returned to play close to a full schedule during the lockout season of 1998-99. However, his production was slipping and he played just two more years in Houston, averaging less than 12.0 ppg and 7.5 rpg. He retired after playing one season for the Toronto Raptors in 2001-02, interrupting 20 years, including his college career, of playing in the city of Houston.
His impact in the city, however, did not go unrecognized. The Rockets' all-time leader at the time of his retirement in a host of categories, including points, rebounds, steals, and blocked shots (All-time NBA leader with 3, 830) had his jersey No. 34 retired on Nov. 9, 2002. At the ceremony, it was announced that a life-sized statue of Olajuwon would be on display at the Rockets' new downtown arena, scheduled to open for the 2003-04 season.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An international business group is urging World Trade Organization members to strike a deal to simplify global customs procedures at a trade ministers meeting in Bali in December to prove the WTO is still a force for trade liberalization.
"We think it's important, indeed indispensable, for the WTO to come out of Bali with something that the world will see as a positive result," said Jim Bacchus, a former WTO appellate body judge who now chairs the global investment and trade committee of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC).
The group, which has members in more than 120 countries, will formally release its recommendations for a Bali package at its meeting next week in Doha, Qatar, where the unsuccessful Doha round of world trade talks was launched in late 2001.
It wants the WTO to wrap up the Doha round, even with a vastly scaled-down package, so that members of the world trade body can move on to new agenda of negotiations in areas such as services and green technology.
A study done for the ICC by the Peterson Institute for International Economics estimated a WTO "trade facilitation" package to simplify customs and other procedures for handling goods at the border could boost world exports by more than $1 trillion, including $570 billion for developing countries and $475 billion for developed countries.
The reforms also could increase global economic output by $960 billion and create about 21 million jobs, most of those in developing countries, the Washington-based think tank said.
While the Doha round has faltered, the United States, the European Union and more recently Japan have looked increasingly to regional trade agreements to create new export opportunities.
Michael Punke, the U.S. ambassador to the WTO, warned last week that the WTO's negotiating function was "hurtling toward irrelevance" because of sharp differences that have kept members from reaching a deal.
"If Bali fails, the signal that we will send, in a world full of fruitful trade negotiations, is that the WTO is the one place where trade negotiations don't succeed," Punke said.
The ICC also will recommend that developed countries agree in Bali to eliminate duties and quotas on at least 97 percent of exports from least-developed countries, following through on a pledge WTO members made in December 2005.
WTO members should also lock in another "conditional" agreement reached eight years to eliminate agricultural export subsidies, and take the additional step of committing to not impose export restrictions on food, the group said.
Current WTO Director General Pascal Lamy will be in Washington this week for the annual spring meeting of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, where he is expected to give a sober assessment of the considerable amount of work to be done to reach a deal by Bali.
"The stark reality is that the current pace of work is largely insufficient to deliver successfully in Bali ... We need a change in mind-set. We need to move from 'exploring,' 'understanding' and 'discussing' issues to negotiating to closing gaps," Lamy said last week.
However, some trade experts fear WTO members could become distracted by a battle to succeed Lamy, who is stepping down later this year. Last week, the initial field of nine candidates for the post was whittled down to five from Brazil, South Korea, Mexico, Indonesia and New Zealand.
"It is critical that the director general appointment process go smoothly so that the transfer of responsibility from Pascal Lamy to the new DG can occur without loss of focus on the ongoing efforts to develop a package for Bali," Terry Stewart, a Washington trade attorney, said in his firm's newsletter.
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Kids will have fun eating their mashed potatoes, especially when they get to try chocolate flavored potatoes! Scooped to look like ice cream, what a fun dish to serve.
If you haven't noticed yet ... we like to have fun here at ZiggityZoom! And we had a ton of fun creating some Thanksgiving recipes that kids will love. One of our favorites, and our kid tester faves, is the chocolate mashed potatoes. This is a fun spin on a very traditional food that many families serve for Thanksgiving dinner.
For variety, we also made mashed sweet potatoes and plain white mashed potatoes to serve as three options, it might sound like a lot of trouble but it isn't. We actually just made white potatoes, mashed and then divided those into two bowls, giving us both the plain and the chocolate, once the cocoa powder was mixed in.
What you need:
Sweet potatoes
3 medium sweet potatoes
2 Tbsp. creamer
2 Tbsp. maple syrup
1 Tbsp. brown sugar
½ Tsp. vanilla
Red or white potatoes
6 Red potatoes or 3 medium white potatoes
3 Tbsp. milk
2 Tbsp. sour cream or plain Greek yogurt
Sea salt to taste
Chocolate flavored potatoes
White potatoes (use a scoop of the above white mashed potatoes)
1 Tbsp. milk
1 Tsp. Hot chocolate mix
For each variation, peel and cube potatoes. Boil in water, until tender, about 20 minutes. Add ingredients as listed for each flavor and mix. Remember when mashing potatoes, that you need a thick enough consistency to "scoop".
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Wednesday, August 4, 2010
52 Weeks To Better Genealogy - Challenge 31 - podcasts
I loaded about 30 hours worth of podcasts onto one of my mp3 players in preparation for this challenge. I already have another mp3 player filled with a variety of audio books. It's amazing how many audio books you can "read" just commuting and doing errands. So now I have one player for audio books and another just for podcasts.
This morning I took off on my walk and cranked up an episode of Lisa Louise Cooke's Genealogy Gems. The episode that came up was #78 from early in 2010. Lisa talked about her new grandson, shared some email from listeners, shared information about the podcast and a few other odds and ends. She's very personable and sounds like she's talking with you, not from a script. It was very enjoyable and made my walk seem to go so much faster.
Later this afternoon, I had a lot of dead time while waiting for an appointment. Rather than sit around looking at a magazine in which I had no interest, I pulled out the mp3 player and listened to some more of the podcast. Yes, just filling in those empty spaces of my day with genealogy podcasts is definitely a good plan. That little mp3 player will be with me all the time now. For the next several weeks, Lisa will be my walking companion!
Even though I was familiar with podcasts before, this challenge allowed me to better focus the way in which I listen to them.
52 Weeks To Better Genealogy is a series of weekly prompts that are a bit more challenging and are geared towards those new to the field of genealogy and family history as well as those who want to brush up on some skills which might be a bit rusty.
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Thanks for posting this Susan. I don't have a MP3 player but now see a reason why I should have one.ReplyDelete
I am happy to be your walking companion Susan!! I love the idea of using dead time to tune up the little grey cells (as the famous fictional detective Poirot would say!)ReplyDelete
In addition to an mp3 player, the free Genealogy Gems Podcast Toolbar is a great way to have access all the episodes from all three of the genealogy podcasts I do which will save hard drive space on computers since you don't have to download the files. http://www.thegenealogygemspodcast.ourtoolbar.com
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Last week I undertook a yearly ritual known to many in Vermont. I went out to the garden and harvested anything that looked even remotely edible. Green tomatoes, underripe peppers, tiny baby greens, and undersized corn cobs all ended up in my bucket. The reason for my garden purge, of course, was the forecast of frost the following evening.
The experience was almost surreal in its 'fall-ness'. As I walked out to the garden, under a darkening, cloudless sky, dry leaves crunched underfoot. The driveway was littered with sugar maple seeds. At first, there were no bird sounds to be heard, but as I harvested, I heard faint, familiar calls - Canada geese, high above. The calls grew louder as the geese flew directly overhead in an irregular 'V' shape, heading due south.
Yet, nothing was a stronger sign of the changes of the season than the smell in the air. It SMELLED like frost. I don't know how else to describe it, but anyone who has lived in Vermont for any significant amount of time knows the smell. This, above anything else, told me I was making the right decision as I pillaged the last of the garden. There was going to be a frost.
The next morning I woke up before the sun rose above Mt. Moosalamoo and headed outside. The thermometer read 31 degrees. The cars parked outside were patterned with feathery frost and the grass was frosted white and crunched underfoot. The cucumber leaves did not yet look damaged, but later in the day they would turn brown and wilt. Smoke from a nearby chimney lay low, held in the pooled cold air in the valley (called a temperature inversion) and unable to rise much higher than the roofs of the houses. I talked to my neighbor, who lives up the street. He told me that the coldest temperature experienced by his garden (which is on a hill above the valley inversion layer) was 36 degrees. I wondered if, on Wednesday night, the smell of frost hung over his home too, or if that
phenomena phenomenon was truly restricted to the areas due to drop below freezing.
One of the most remarkable things about Vermont is its variability in weather and climate - within a day, week, month, year, and from year to year. Several times I have asked long-time Vermonters if a weather pattern was 'normal' only to be told there is no normal - every winter brings a different mix of snow, frigid nights, and thaws, and every summer thunderstorm reacts differently when it reaches the base of the mountains. To be sure, there are patterns - my neighbor tells me he often gets several extra frost-free weeks at his house than people living in the valley nearby - but there are no guarantees, and no periods of stagnation. Sometimes people ask me if I miss southern California weather, but heading into my third Vermont winter, I still do not. Who would prefer a guarantee of smog and dry heat over a day that dawns with almost anything possible? Indeed, in mid October, anAddison County resident could experience anything from a snow flurry to an 80 degree sunny day.
The last seven days offered a true taste of this variability. After cold rains and a frost, the temperatures over the weekend rose to summer-like levels. Burlington set a record high temperature of 80 degrees on Sunday and the Middlebury College weather station reported a high temperature of 79.5 degrees. As the week passes, we can expect cooling daytime temperatures and a few waves of rain through Saturday night. Beyond this, no further heat waves are expected, and one run of one weather model even indicated a chance of light snow in about two weeks. Of course, long range forecasts - and even short range forecasts - are quite prone to error in Vermont. So in truth, we could experience almost anything.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
Charlie Hohn is a recent graduate of the UVM Field Naturalist graduate program. He has been closely watching the weather ever since he was a child in southern California. Charlie will be posting occasional blog posts here about Addison County weather. He also blogs about water at slowwatermovement.blogspot.com.


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LOUDON, N.H. - Imagine talking with Patrice Bergeron only minutes before skates onto the ice at the Boston Garden. Envision what it would be like to chat with Tom Brady before he trotted onto the field at Gillette Stadium. It's something very few have the chance to experience, but officials at New Hampshire Motor Speedway are giving a very similar unique opportunity to its guests inside the Magic Mile Club before the New Hampshire 300 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race on July 14.
Two-time NASCAR Nationwide Series champion and Sprint Cup Series winner Martin Truex Jr. will make a 15-minute pit stop prior to the start of the New Hampshire 300. Truex will answer questions from fans inside the Magic Mile Club, which will host this ultimate hospitality package that includes a private fenced-in tent, catered food, beverage service, pre-race pit pass and a grandstand ticket.
Magic Mile Club passes may be purchased for $249 per person, which includes an $80 Laconia Grandstand ticket.
The Magic Mile Club offers fans the opportunity to enjoy the ultimate VIP Hospitality experience on the morning of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race. The Magic Mile Club opens at 8 a.m. on the morning of the Sprint Cup Series race, at the same time gates open. The club closes at the start of the race.
Due to Truex's race day schedule there will be no autographs.
Great seats, camping, hospitality, and VIP packages are still available for the New Hampshire 300 on July 14 or the SYLVANIA 300 on Sept. 22. Purchase them now by calling the speedway ticket hotline at (603) 783-4931 or by visiting www.nhms.com.


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MIAMI SHORES, Fla. -- The Buccaneers have hit a standstill. Something's got to change.
Barry lost to rival Lynn, 71-66, Wednesday night in a game that started out so promising. The loss dropped the Bucs to 6-5 overall, 1-2 in the Sunshine State Conference. Lynn improved to 8-4, 1-2.
Barry led by as many as 18 in the first half, but Lynn went on a 17-3 run over the last 5:30 of the first half to cut the gap to four at the break.
The Buccaneers pushed their lead back to nine on Vladimir Raymonvil's jumper at the 13:14 mark of the second half, but the Fighting Knights responded with a 13-0 run to take a four-point lead. Justin McCoy's three-pointer pulled Barry within one with 8:54 left, but Lynn extended its lead back to 10 with 2:03 to go, and the Bucs were playing catch-up.
Barry drew within four after two free throws by McCoy, and then forced a Knights turnover with 17 seconds to play, but the Bucs couldn't convert on the offensive end, and Lynn sank three of its final four free throws to salt the game away.
Barry was outscored 38-29 in the second half when the Bucs went 8 of 25 from the floor. The Buccaneers shot 38.5 percent from the field for the game. Lynn hit 46.7 percent of its shots.
McCoy scored a career-high 29 points, 18 of which came in the first half. He was nine of 16 from the field, including five of 10 three-point goals.
Lynn's Kevin Ohen had 24 points, nine rebounds and four steals. Pavle Raickovic had 13 points and seven boards.
Barry's Chad Renfro scored 18 points and pulled down four rebounds. Bryan Van Cott had nine points and four assists.
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Connelly's celebrity chats will be streamed live in the Backstage Pass on Oscar.com and the official Oscars App. The interviews will also be audible to the thousands of bleacher fans and arriving guests.
Connelly is a reporter for ESPN and a contributor on pop culture to ABC News, where he frequently interviews filmmakers and actors. From 2000-07, he was a co-host and interviewer for the official Academy Awards pre-show, duties for which he brought the wrong pants to the show only once. He first covered the red carpet at the Oscars in 1989, for MTV, where he was the host of the network's movie show, "The Big Picture." From 1987 to 1996, he was an editor and writer for the movie magazine Premiere.
Stories he has worked on at ESPN have won three Sports Emmys and six Edward R. Murrow Awards. Since 2006, he's served as correspondent and host for ESPN's yearly "My Wish" series, in collaboration with Make-A-Wish. He was a consulting producer for ESPN Films' documentary series "30 for 30," which won a Peabody Award.
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Oscars for outstanding film achievements of 2012 will be presented Feb. 24 at the Dolby Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center, and will be hosted by Seth MacFarlane. The Oscar presentation will be televised live on the ABC Television Network and in more than 225 countries worldwide. For more information go to Oscar.com or download the official Oscars app.


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text: Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - 10 days in Taiwan Speak Korean Now! Korean Job Discussion Forums"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!" FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in 10 days in Taiwan Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Travel Forum View previous topic :: View next topic Author Message mscoop1085Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: 10 days in Taiwan I am going to Taiwan for 10 days over christmas break. Anyone have any good suggestions of places to go besides Taipei and Kaohsiung? I'm up for anything really. I will be traveling alone and don't have any preferences. Beaches, hot springs, hiking, etc. I won't have a car so my transportation may be limited to certain places. Back to top mscoop1085Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:39 am Post subject: travel mate would be ok too...I will be there December 22nd until the 31st. Back to top sallymonsterJoined: 06 Feb 2010Location: Seattle area Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: Go to Hualien on the east coast. You can take the train there from Taipei, although it takes several hours. Across the street from the Hualien train station, there is a Pony scooter rental shop that will rent you a scooter without a license, but they hold your picture ID (Korean ARC or home country drivers license works) as collateral. Get yourself a hostel to stay at in Hualien and then drive your rented scooter up to Taroko National Park. The tourist information center next to the train station can supply you with maps and directions. Taroko Gorge is absolutely stunning, you won't regret going there! While you're in Hualien, I also recommend taking a drive down the scenic highway 11. You'll see gorgeous scenery: coast on one side, and green mountains on the other. When I went to Hualien I only intended to see Taroko Gorge but ended up sticking around much longer than I thought I would! For beaches, Kenting in the far south is your best bet. However, I should warn you that it's quite difficult and very time-consuming to get to Kenting from Hualien (or the other way around); there are no direct buses or trains between the two places as far as I know. Kenting's beaches aren't great, but they're OK, and the weather should be somewhat warm (the rest of Taiwan gets chilly in the wintertime). Again, I recommend renting a scooter and exploring the area; Kenting, like Hualien, boasts excellent scenery. And, of course, you should spend at least a couple of days in Taipei. If you have time, I heard Tainan has a lot of historical sites, but I didn't actually go there. I wouldn't bother too much with Kaohsiung. I don't think there's anything there that you won't find in Taipei. You'll probably pass through on your way out of Kenting, though. Oh, and learn some basic Mandarin expressions before you go! Outside the major cities (Taipei, Kaohsiung), English ability is quite low. Good luck! Taiwan is such an underrated country. Back to top TaiwantrollJoined: 10 Sep 2006 Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: Yes, stay away from Kaohsiung. It is a blight. There are buses from Hualien to Kenting. It might take 6 hours or so though but the trip is very scenic. Hualien also has some very nice beaches, though they are not sandy beaches. I don't know why you would want to stay in a hostel though. Hotels are plentiful and quite inexpensive. I would recommend at least 5 days in Taipei and surrounding areas though. There is really so much to see and do in Taipei. Make sure to go to Taipei 101, Snake Alley, Chiang Kai Shek Memorial Hall, the Royal Palace Museum, the old residence gardens, shopping in Tien Mu, hot springs in Peitou, sightseeing in Tamshui, etc. Taipei also has a world class zoo. Hope that helps. Back to top bcityJoined: 19 Dec 2011 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: Can you also rent a scooter in Taipei? I am going there for about 5 days at the end of this month (like everyone else and their mother). How long is the train ride from Taipei to Hualien? Back to top pugwallJoined: 22 Oct 2006 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:11 am Post subject: bcity wrote: Can you also rent a scooter in Taipei? I am going there for about 5 days at the end of this month (like everyone else and their mother). How long is the train ride from Taipei to Hualien? There is no need to rent a scooter in Taipei as the subway is excellent. Back to top bcityJoined: 19 Dec 2011 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:18 am Post subject: pugwall wrote: bcity wrote: Can you also rent a scooter in Taipei? I am going there for about 5 days at the end of this month (like everyone else and their mother). How long is the train ride from Taipei to Hualien? There is no need to rent a scooter in Taipei as the subway is excellent. What about just for fun?! Back to top pugwallJoined: 22 Oct 2006 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: It is not very fun. You can rent a scooter in Taipei, I wouldnt advise you to though. Too dangerous and too stressful. Back to top northwayJoined: 05 Jul 2010 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: pugwall wrote: It is not very fun. You can rent a scooter in Taipei, I wouldnt advise you to though. Too dangerous and too stressful. Yeah, and it's the place you're most likely to get busted if you're unlicensed. Much of Taipei is walkable, and the subway goes pretty directly to the places that aren't. Hold off on the scooter for greener pastures. Back to top mikesaidyesJoined: 26 Apr 2011Location: Sanbon, South Korea Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: I was there for a week last Christmas. My schedule was: Taipei for a night... stayed at Taipei Backpackers right in Ximen. Cheap, nice. Took the fast train to Kaohisung, then our hostel picked us up in a taxi and drove us to Kenting. It was the same price as the bus and WAY better. We stayed at Afei Surf Hostel. Booked the dorm, but paid like 10 more when we got there a night and got the PIMP deluxe room. Kenting was VERY quiet at Christmas time. Our beach was right across the street and very empty. Like a handful of people. The city was a quick bus ride down the street by like 10 minutes, but there wasn't much going on at all, so we drank at 7-11. We were there 3 days, and honestly, we should've only done two. We then went back up to Fangliao, caught the slow train (5 hours, but VERY pretty) to Hualien. This is the best place to catch the train from the south end of Taiwan. You go up the east coast. We stayed in Hualien for two nights, so we really just did the Gorge for the full day (and it takes all day to get around the Gorge on buses, walking, etc.). There's not much to do here either for nightlife (like one bar), so the one full day for the Gorge will suffice. We stayed at Colorful Taiwan Hostel as it was close to the train station (where you catch the bus to the Gorge, too). Then we caught the train back up to Taipei for the last day or two. Book your train tickets on their website the day they go on sale as all the good, quicker trains sell out FAST. Excellent way to see the hotspots of the country. We basically circumnavigated the whole island. Down the west coast then back up the east in a circle. Ultimately, I wish I had one more day in Taipei as I didn't really get to explore it well. Back to top mikesaidyesJoined: 26 Apr 2011Location: Sanbon, South Korea Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: And Christian is right, don't F with a scooter in Taipei. Just walk or take the subway. It was also my impression that it's not as rogue with renting anymore, they want to see an international license at most places... Back to top jhicks99Joined: 04 Mar 2009Location: Seoul, South Korea Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:11 am Post subject: My advice, Taipei is awesome, but you really need just 2-3 days to take most of it in. It's quite limited compared to Kaosiung for night life if you're into that and very small, so it's easy to hit up a lot of the sites in a few busy days. There's some brilliant neighbourhoods worth checking out and some beautiful spots in the mountains near by, but I was pretty bored after a few days. Enjoy your trip and enjoy what is IMO the best food in Asia! 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U.S. skydiver and base jumper Jeb Corliss jumped from a helicopter and flew in a wingsuit through a 30-foot crack in China's Mt. Jianglang at speeds up to 100 miles per hour. Photo: AP.
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And sorry its the kite buggy land speed record
Even the best sail boat gets 2X on the water???????
Sailrocket is over 2X i think their in the 3X range and its a boat.
We are talking efficency of the system as a whole, if the board/ buggy/ boat whatever has alot of drag then that drags the system down. How fast would greenbird go with flat tires???
From the Greenbird site "A solution is required, where lift is maximised, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, drag is minimised.
The most drag at this point is the board to water interface. Maximise that and see where it goes.
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Putting together a 20-1 run against a team as solid as Zion-Benton is not an easy task, but thats what Lakes was able to do Saturday night in Lake Villa. Beginning midway through the second quarter and continuing for the first 2½ minutes of the third, the run enabled the Eagles to go up 35-27 in the North Suburban Conference crossover game.
Trying to maintain that lead and prevail over the Zee-Bees proved to be a more difficult assignment for Lakes. Zion rallied from a 9-point deficit and hung on down the stretch to earn a 56-53 victory.
Junior Milik Yarbrough scored 18 of Zions 22 fourth-quarter points and wound up with a game-high 30, while senior guard Gabriel Ramirez knocked down a quartet of 3-pointers for his 12 points in the Zee-Bees fifth consecutive triumph.
Putting Yarbrough at the free throw line did not help the Eagles (13-6), but sometimes theres no other way to defend the talented, 6-foot-6 forward.
I knew at the beginning of the season that Id be shooting a lot of free throws, so I made that a priority in my game, said Yarbrough, who was 11-for-13 from the charity stripe. In basketball, everybody makes runs. When Lakes made theirs tonight, we didnt panic. We just played hard, hit the boards and thankfully the outcome went our way.
Lakes coach Chris Snyder said theres only so much you can do against Yarbrough.
Youve just got to make things as difficult as possible for him because hes a big, strong guy, Snyder said. We were throwing a lot of guys at him, but then (Ramirez) was hitting 3s, so you can try to take one thing away but not always both.
Seniors Direll Clark and Justin Bergeron scored 15 points apiece to pace Lakes, with Bergeron doing most of his damage at the free throw line (9-for-14). Unfortunately for the Eagles, they missed 3 out of their last 4 free throws, and Clarks 3-point attempt to tie the game at the buzzer was off.
You just have to learn from it, turn the page and get stronger because of it, Snyder said. We have to learn how to handle the pressure a little better. But it was good to see our guys fight back.
Justin is an aggressive player and he was a physical force out there for us. Direll had a nice start to the second half and TJ Edwards (9 points) had a nice game off the bench and hit that big 3 at the end of the first half.
Zion (14-3) started strong and led by 11 points at 26-15 with 4:05 remaining in the second quarter after Ramirez nailed his third 3-pointer in less than 5 minutes.
I was feeling it, Ramirez said. I got in a rhythm. When they started getting more in my face, it affected me like it would any player, but my job as a shooter is to shoot as if theres nobody there.
Lakes finished the second quarter with a 12-1 run and scored the first 8 points of the second half. The Eagles led 39-30 after a pair of Bergeron free throws with 1:50 left in the third quarter, but Zion guard Dorsey Cadette scored the last four points of the period to set up Yarbroughs fourth-quarter heroics.
We talked all week about how Lakes is a very good team that plays smart, so we knew it would be a tough game, and it was, said Zion coach Don Kloth.


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Last time in Spotlight on Collections, I wrote about Henry Cabot Lodge's (HCL) family, education, and literary and political careers. This week I describe his connections to the MHS and look at the MHS holdings related to his life.
HCL had many connections to the MHS. Besides being a good friend of Henry Adams, who was from a long line of politicians and influential members of the MHS, HCL was also a long standing member of the MHS himself. He spent 48 of his 74 years as a member of the Society. Elected a member in 1876, HCL attended meetings and other events as a member of the Society while also performing his political duties in the U.S. House of Representatives and in the U.S. Senate.
In 1915, upon the death of MHS president Charles Francis Adams, brother of HCL's friend and mentor Henry Adams, the nominating committee and MHS Council nominated HCL to sit as the next president. As was often the case with HCL, he had both supporters and critics within the MHS. This made for a very lively election. Those supporting Lodge eventually won out and elected him president. Although often absent due to his responsibilities as U.S. senator, once elected HCL served as president of the MHS until his death in 1924.
According to the MHS bicentennial history written by Louis Leonard Tucker, after the death of HCL the Lodge family placed his personal papers on deposit at the MHS. Almost four decades later a determined Stephen T. Riley, the Director of the Society from 1957 to 1976, made it his mission to convince the grandson of HCL, Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (HCLII), to deed the papers over to the Society to ensure their safety then and in the future. Riley, who was known as an "unrelenting pursuer of his quarry" when it came to acquiring manuscripts, tirelessly pursued HCLII for several years. In 1969 HCLII relented and signed a deed of gift to the Society for HCL's papers.
In total the MHS holds five collections directly related to HCL. The main body of manuscripts is in the Henry Cabot Lodge Papers, 1745-1966 containing 51 cartons and 2 oversize boxes of material. The collection includes personal, official, and family papers focusing on Republican Party politics and American foreign policy. This large collection is stored in an offsite facility. To provide more convenient access and long-term preservation for the manuscript materials the MHS microfilmed the collection (183 reels total) and stores the reels onsite for use by researchers.
The MHS also holds a collection of eleven boxes (10 reels of microfilm) of correspondence between HCL and his long-time friend Teddy Roosevelt in the Lodge-Roosevelt Correspondence, 1884-1924. HCL published about half of these letters in his book Selections from the Correspondence of Theodore Roosevelt and Henry Cabot Lodge which was completed by his Secretary Charles F. Redmond after his death. Other HCL collections held by the MHS include 2,059 photographs in the Henry Cabot Lodge Photographs, ca. 1860-1945, letters to HCL's nephew Ellerton James in Letters to Ellerton James, 1850-1924, and letters to HCL's friend and lawyer William C. Endicott in the Henry Cabot Lodge papers IV, 1887-1933.
For more information about Henry Cabot Lodge's connection to the Massachusetts Historical Society see:
Lord, Arthur. "Tribute to Henry Cabot Lodge." Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society, 58, (1924-1925): 97-99.
Morse, John T., Jr. "Tribute to Henry Cabot Lodge." Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society, 58, (1924-1925): 99-110.
Tucker, Louis Leonard. The Massachusetts Historical Society: A Bicentennial History, 1791-1991. (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1996).
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DURHAM, NC (June 25, 2012) – The National Press Photographers Association is pleased to announce the2012 Short Grantsprogram, six grants of $3,000 each that will be awarded to support photojournalists who are creating compelling picture stories in their communities.
The grant is designed for funding projects small enough in scale that the bulk of the work can be accomplished in two weeks or less.
Last year NPPA offered five inaugural Short Grants, and the first-ever winners were Victor J. Blue, Gabriela Bulisova, Mary F. Calvert, Matt Eich, and Mark Ovaska.
The grants are made possible with funds from overseas reprographic rights organizations which give money to organizations like NPPA, through the Author's Coalition of America, to benefit U.S.-based professional photographers.
NPPA past president Alicia Wagner Calzada is the chair of the NPPA Short Grants program.
"Last year was a great success, with five great winners who have been using the grant to fund important projects, Calzada said. "I'm excited that we are expanding the grant program this year to six awards so that even more photographers will be able to tell powerful stories in their communities. Though most of the entrants last year were independent photographers, staff photographers are encouraged to apply as well."
NPPA executive director Mindy Hutchison said that applications will be accepted online through July 16, 2012.
"We see these grants as an opportunity for NPPA to support the work of professional photographers as well as a chance to highlight the importance of the community photo story," she said today. "I'm thrilled that we're able to continue to award them this year. Entry is now open, and we've got a three-week window to apply online. Our judging team is looking forward to seeing all of the interesting project proposals."
For information about the NPPA Short Grants, visitwww.nppa.org/short_grants.Email questions can be directed to[email protected].


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This episode kinda felt ham-fisted. While there is no excuse for leaving your child behind for the man you love, she at least felt sorry for it. That line Amata said afterwards was pretty cheesy. The whole Altair caused it's own undoing reveal was handled well. Kagura's voice over during the preview is pretty much setting up a death flag for the guy. Mykage was in top form this episode with his trolling.
And like Destined Fate just said why did Izumo never try to talk to Amata? You know, the whole fact that your dad is leading the enemy army is a good plot twist (example: Star Wars.) Maybe it could have added some internal conflict to the story and Amata? Build on an actual relationship with his father so that we give a damn when he dies. Make Amata question himself and things of that nature.
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I found Alisia's excuse for abandoning Amata to be stupid. What a horrible parent. Honestly she was better off not giving an excuse at all. Her excuse was very badly written.
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If this does get in a SRW I bet they will reveal Izumo and Amata's connection much sooner and find a way to avert this needlessly forced event. Their deaths seemed kinda forced and really, are we supposed to care about a chick that abandoned her young son and than fell into a coma only to wake up than "that" soon after?
A possessed chick(Who doesn't seem to be taking the whole "I just lost my body" all that well considering she was breaking down last episode as Mykage trolled away. So I doubt Mykage is able to concentrate with all that crying inside Zessica's head), a Dark Side of someone else(Meaning you don't even have a full person at the main controls) and than you have Mikono.... Yeah.
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|2012-06-11, 01:32
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Hoping in for the ride.
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Amata will save the worlds
Amata's mother said he would.
Is Izumo a failure for not recognizing that his mothers machine to help save the world was actually destroying it?
No, because Alica said all was not for naught...cause they had Amata.
Will Kagura help save the world. I highly doubt it.
Cause Amata's mother said only the "other you" and only mentioned Amata as the one Izumo and Alicia really cared about.
And what does Kagura think of all this? Recap to episode 22 or so. I don't care about my parents.
Will amata save the world??? Two episodes left. Lets see and find out.
(my post is a little sarcastic with the Alicia parts. I just think it's hilarious that she did basically nothing after 24 episodes.)
|2012-06-11, 01:49
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|2012-06-11, 02:02
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|2012-06-11, 02:04
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And now we have the Alisia hate. Wow. On the one hand the writing sucks which doesn't help with things at all (but we've already known that), but on the other hand, thinking with her hormones and not giving a crap? Yep, that's totally what happened.
Also, fwiw there's the question whether Alisia even noticed Kagura, and how much time they could spend together, if any, before arriving at Altair. Kagura said that they split up right when they arrived, and he hasn't seen her since (nor does he care anymore). Of course, due to the quality writing we're led to believe no-one, not security, not Izumo, nobody, a) noticed, b) cared about the extra person who appeared with Alisia, and if Alisia wasn't aware of Kagura then she's apparently some sort of psychic to know about Kagura now. But we're talking about the writers who imply that Amata has been remembering a mirror image of himself chasing after his mother all the time, and never once wondered about who that was.
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|2012-06-11, 02:23
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Join Date: Mar 2012
s vector fighting One to one, not in Aquarion form
|2012-06-11, 02:38
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After watching Aquarion EVOL episode 24, I'm left with two conflicting viewpoints on the anime:
1. It's something of a self or genre-parody. This show is meant to deconstruct, or at least make fun of, storylines like this one. Storylines where a child is The Chosen One (tm) of two important parents who he loses in his youth, and then he goes on a journey to achieve his destiny (possibly along with his fated lover). You see a fair bit of this in mecha anime, Gundam especially (Alisia herself makes me think a lot of Sheryl from Macross and a little bit of Lacus Clyne from Gundam Seed).
What aids the deconstruction: Amata's life is actually pretty crappy when you stop to think about it (what ZetaAEUG brought up really showcases that ), and Amata/Mikono has caused a lot of problems for many other characters.
2. The show is actually entirely sincere in what it's presenting. No deconstruction. Problem is that they're massively screwing up secondary details (and while they are secondary, they shape how we perceive important characters, which in turn can hurt what the narrative is aiming for with the main characters). I can't believe it never occurred to some Editor, Okada, or Kawamori himself that "You know, maybe we should at least have Alisia find adults to care for her son, and not just literally abandon him at a graveyard of all places."
So yeah, I think it's one or the other. An otherwise well-crafted deconstruction that perhaps is a touch too coy/cute for its own good (so people aren't "getting it" unlike Madoka Magica)... or Kawamori actually intended this to be an epic Coming of Age "monomyth" story played straight, and it's getting unraveled by really badly handled secondary details.
I'd like to know what my fellow viewers think is more likely of the two.
Anyway, in spite of its writing flaws, the show's sheer spectacle makes it a very engaging watch. But I have to say that I'm not optimistic about how this will end. For one thing, I don't think Kagura and/or Zessica fans are going to like how it ends... and for reasons that go beyond shipping wars.
|2012-06-11, 02:44
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Maybe that's how they feel is what real love is. Abandoning everything to be with the one you love, even your family if need be.
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