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Topic: Bands similar to Gryphon
Posted: March 18 2012 at 10:15
I love the medieval and folk/symphonic style of Gryphon and I think their use of the Crumhorn is brilliant. Any recommended bands out there that are similar?
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|Posted: March 18 2012 at 10:27
Not exactly bands similar to Gryphon but you might like:
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|Posted: March 18 2012 at 11:04
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|Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:35
Renaissance for sure. Try Ashes Are Burning or Scheherazade And Other Stories.
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|Posted: March 21 2012 at 03:09
Gryphon is also one of my favourite bands. You should check up on The Strawbs and Lindisfarne who are good folk bands but not in the same vein as Gryphon. Gryphon is a very unique band and there's not too many bands around who are similar. Anthony Phillips and Renaissance, which have been suggested above are good suggestions as well.
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|Posted: March 21 2012 at 03:59
for newer bands you might try Oaksenham
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|Posted: March 21 2012 at 04:51
well it depends at which Gryphon you're thinking of
(my guess is that you're thinking of their first three albums, rather than the next two Yes-sounding Lps)
Although they doin't use crumhorns, in terms of compositions (Gryphon is very medieval-ish, not just melodically, but rhythmically as well), then Gentle Giant might just be the closest cousin to Gryphon.
ps: I don't find much similarities between Renaissance and Gryphon.
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|Posted: March 21 2012 at 09:49
I can't think of any at the moment ... but hopefully there are some bands that do this kind of work within a classical context that might be much more interesting than just a commercial song/rock context, which in the end, Gryphon is NOT.
Renaissance is much more about Annie's voice than it was about anything else. It was also about singing poetry written by a couple of rather well known writers, which Annie appreciated.
Focus is very "progressive" but Thijs Van Leer solo albums are almost all classical, and done really well. His first two solo albums (Introspection) are almost all classical music with the flute ... and what a treat they are! As for progressive? ... well ... let's say that the attitude of attempting to use the flute as a solo instrument is very progressive and not usually done in classical music ... flute has "moments" in classical music, but not solos per se, like the violin or piano. In this case, you call it ... this is a symphony for the flute ... and it is magnificent.
I keep thinking that there should be others in Italy, the hotbed for classical music in Europe, and a lot of bands mixed the classical element into their music ... I find PFM in the early days very classically oriented, and as they became more rock oriented, after "The World Became the World" they lost the appeal for me (the live album is the exception).
Banco is very classically minded, at least in the composing side of things, but it is distinctly rock oriented but the orchestration and definition of the music is very classical. I thought that things like Royal Academy de Musica and others were similar in the same style ... sort of using the electric guitar instead of the violin!
Richard Harvey also has some solo albums that I believe are mostly classical music ... don't quote me on that.
One last detail. Midnight Mushrumps was written for a National Theater production ... and performed with them as well, I understand. So, in some ways, there is more to this music than meets the eye.
There are not, however, a whole lot of these "medieval electric bands" per se ... there is one here in Portland, but it won't use keyboards (I asked) because they say it's not "traditional" (how F_______ boring!) ... and when I played them a touch of Gryphon on a mp3, one of the ladies said ... that's really good but we would never do that!
Originality is a talent and a vision ... not an idea! A talent and vision creates new work. Ideas? ... more of the same!
The other side is to listen to things like The Third Ear Band ... that is not something that almost anyone here can really give an ear to ... and enjoy ... and of course, it's music gets used in a film that is "pre-renaissance" with Roman Polanski's Macbeth ... and the music comes of as raw, as if it were the street folks playing it at the time, and not some polished commercially designed music ... and it's use in the film is very effective and adds moments that are down right ... weird and scary and leave you ... kinda ... stunned ... wondering what you are thinking ... which, of course, is not something a Harry Potter fan will ever enjoy or appreciate in film! But to my ear, that is very likely what most of the music was like in those days anyway ... except in the fat and rich courts where "musicians" thought themselves "disciplined" and better than the street folk out there!
Edited by moshkito - March 23 2012 at 12:59
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|Posted: March 22 2012 at 15:58
Amazing Blondel, I recommend England, and Malicorne, recommend Malicorne II, I think you might like. Could also try Forest, and The Trees for Prog Folk that might appeal.
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|Posted: March 23 2012 at 04:43
you should try los jaivas they are amazing
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|Posted: March 23 2012 at 13:11
None of these, however, sound anything like Gryphon, btw ... not even close.
I wanted to mention Malicorne ... as it is definitly folk. Heck for that matter one could even mention Alan Stivell in that list ... but he's very tough and because he mixes everything and anything, most of us can not sit and enjoy or appreciate the hybrid mixes ... fine ... go back to Ennya!
Amazing Blondel ... ok ... though I did not feel that it was really that great, but listening to it today ... it has a very different feel.
There were some in Germany. Tanned Leather and Cherubin were related to several bands. And the stuff is very westernized, but you get the feeling that it is out there ... because it doesn't sound ... like the folk stuff you are used to. The Cherubin album is specially good and has some nice things (the choo choo train song is magnificent). I do not know the rest of the scene in Germany. But none of this will get anywhere close to the feel/style that you are wanting to look at.
But this is strange, because music history knows and states that there is a massive history of music in Greece, Italy, the northern countries (Sweded and Norway or Finland) and we definitly know that Russia also has music history and we don't know any of it, at all.
(Removed Help Yourself and Neutrons - they do not belong in this discussion. Sorry about that)
Edited by moshkito - April 03 2012 at 15:24
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|Posted: March 23 2012 at 16:17
^ I agree with Pedro - None of these sound anything like Gryphon... no band sounded like Gryphon.
The uniqueness of Gryphon is not just their use of early "folk" instruments such as the serpent and krumhorn, but (as half the band were graduates of the Royal College of Music), also their use of traditional Medieval music forms, particularly English Medieval folk music. Other bands simply produce music that sounds like it should be Medieval (like you would hear on a soundtrack to a Hollywood knights-and-chivalry type film) which I believe sounds closer to Elizabethan music (the English form of Renaissance music) than Medieval. While it is possible to trace-back Gryphon to folk-rock and baroque pop bands of the 1960s, what they did was a little more 'authentic' in the Medieval music forms they used in their compositions than the pastiche of Bach and Beethoven used by those other bands.
So, when it comes to choosing bands that have a medieval and folk/symphonic style of Gryphon it really depends on what aspects of that sound you are looking for, since none encapsulate all of them.
Malicorne comes close but their music is based upon later music (baroque and renaissance era), Amazing Blondel are more folk, less rocking and though they take their name from the famed medieval French troubadour of Richard Coeur-de-lion they were also routed in renaissance music rather than medieval. In both Malicorne and Amazing Blondel you will hear the Krumhorn however. Renaissance (the band) has been mentioned - there were two incarnations of Renaissance - the first was an off-shoot of the Yardbirds and did attempt to fuse renaissance and baroque era music with rock, they didn't really touch on traditional folk very much, the later version that rose from the ashes of the first was essentially members of The Nashville Teens with Annie Haslam - they incorporated folk influences into their music, but again the classical influence was of a much later era than the Medieval of Gryphon. (I don't know Help Yourself - from what I've just heard on YouTube I'd say they were country-rock, certainly american acid-psyche flavoured, but perhaps I simply haven't heard the right tracks). The Third Ear Band are a good contender though they are more a chamber rock band often employing eastern sounding forms (ragas) in their music. Hugues's suggestion of Gentle Giant is one that is made often, they are more varied on instrumentation and their classical influences are also more varied, so while they do reference Medieval music and folk, they also cover many other classical music eras and a multitude of other musical styles which does tend to distance them from Gryphon by quite a wide margin.
Of the modern bands, Secret Green can be recommended, they do use Medieval forms and early English folk in their music, though the a lute is the only early instruments used, so flute and recorder replace the unmistakable sounds of krumhorn or serpent, the symphonic element to their music is not classical as such, but when used with the Medieval sounds it is quite effective.
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|Posted: March 24 2012 at 22:57
Gentle Giant and Jethro Tull would be two rather obvious choices especially the early to mid seventies material by both bands(maybe a little later for JT).
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|Posted: April 03 2012 at 15:31
Magnificent ... absolutely magnificently said and written.
I always thought that Gryphon did with the electricity in their music, that could not be done 100 years ago, which could ... alter the equation a weeee bit, but not enough to change what you said. I'm not sure, however, that we all can project that image and see it.
The hard part, of considering the band progressive, is that it takes away from the unbelievable study and definition of the music and work that these folks put together. Let's just say that these folks are/were the top echeleon in their music department to do something like this ... which you and I can "relate to" but might not be appreciated in a more academic and traditional environment.
But I'm sure that the Royal College of Music would have been thrilled to do something with the National Theatre and as such ... this might get a lot more attention and scrutiny than otherwise ... but none of us will ever argue the incredible results!
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|Posted: April 03 2012 at 15:45
In terms of the first two Gryphone albums, possibly.
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I still think that Alan Stivell would be a much more interesting -- similar thing -- though not necessarily that same kind of music, but the only difference is that it is a different country and place.
Like Gryphon, Alan also mixes a lot of different instruments, the problem being that he mixes these with rock, jazz, folk, accoustic, orchestra, and everything in between ... and the mixes with rock music are magnificent, if you are not adverse to hearing things like "Pop-Plynn" ... an obvious rock anthem to bring that Celtc group up to modern times, that I am not sure we understand or can relate to very well, but it is almost in the vein of the Jimi thing and the McPhee thing. Somehow, however, we have this idea that "celtic" has to be Ennya, and Celtic also stretches to Brittany in France ... the area that was almost all wiped out in its entirety in French history.
These mixes are good for a rock person that has no issues with mixes in music. They are very tough for people that are looking for an idealistic progressive or prog music, and things like "Celtic Symphony" are very tough when you hear the guitar screaming over the orchestra on side one and two ... and it makes you wonder ... but I see a fighter screaming and running to get his freedom, if you allow me the idea and thought of the whole thing.
His accoustic stuff is only tough in that he is not a singer in the conventional styles that we like and are used to, specially in popular music. His voice is different, lower and he mixes the English, French and Kelt languages freely, and I can not tell you where one starts and ends.
For rock oriented audiences, the CD "Again" is a bunch of "best of" almost all of them done rock style, and I kinda look at this as it was put together for an American audience, that unffortunately, can not appreciate this at all!
But do beware the fact that unlike Ennya and the other new-age'y plasticene cardboard mysticism, this is real and this guy is not afraid to pull punches and lay it on think on the carnivorous French -- as you can see in "Before Landing" which is a history of these Kelts in France.
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|Posted: April 07 2012 at 08:59
Sort of thought (maybe stretching it) the Alusa Fallax album had some medival stretches but there's so much going on in that album that they have every genre covered.
Steeleye Span comes to mind as well as some variations of old Fairport Convention (Leife and Leif (did I mispell??)
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I fully agree with every word written.
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|Posted: April 07 2012 at 21:07
amazing blondel's first 3 if only because of the Crumhorn
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|Posted: November 02 2014 at 13:09
Hi, I think the most similar to Gryphon are Gentle Giant, but also you can find similarities in some Mike Oldfield tracks
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The preacher who inspired them was a real fire and brimstone type and honestly I was shocked that they looked back on his preaching in a positive way. Judging from the interview, they weren't calling down hail on the sodomites in their campus preaching. The apostles obviously preached this way, out in the public sphere, but it seems unusual in what I've seen of the Orthodox experience, where there seems to be a greater emphasis on witness through service and worship.Thoughts?
The SCOBA jurisdictions and those in communion with SCOBA jurisdictions (i.e JP and ROCOR) are mostly caught up in themselves, in justifying their mediocracy, in phyletism, in legalism etc. to really be taken seriously by many people.
When did you go to PSU? Gary converted to Orthodoxy about 7 years ago. If you saw him before that, he was preaching as a non-denominational charismatic. He's been preaching for 22 years, and his message certainy has changed in his time in Orthodoxy. If you never actually sat and listened for a full hour or two, you also never heard anything he really said.
He teaches against the supremacy of the Pope, against the Filioque, against "rock-n-roll worship," against sola scriptura....nothing different than what the Church teaches. I'd say it;s time for you to come visit for a while. Seminarians who are interested in campus ministry come to stay and observe Gary and our OCF because they are examples of what can happen in a good way. Since he's Orthodox now, his message has changed, so I venture to say that you bascially cannot know anything about his preaching til you come hear it anew.
My own priest has warned me against apologetic debates with Protestants, though if no one had ever debated me (gently) I might never have taken Orthodoxy seriously.
It's not for everyone, but in a country where no one knows who we are, he gets the word out.
I wonder if Fr. Gillquist and the old Becoming Orthodox crowd still have ties to campus ministry?
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I take photos of things I find interesting, as all photographers do. Sometimes it can be a hunt for the right shot, other times it's almost like it falls into your lap. Then there are days you realize that you know nothing at all. Those are most days for me. I print most of my stuff (big thanks to Ray at the Photo Epicenter except for the color. It's fun getting secluded in a tiny world of black, white and red.
How's your little girl doing? What's it like being a father? How has it affected your work?
She is awesome. Cliche' to say but she really is. I got laid off my day job at the law firm in early Dec. so I've been home with her more and she is always happy. Even with the teething and the usual pangs of being a very small and new human she's always smiling and being a goof. The only times she cries is when it's a real thing; wet, hungry, tired or in some form of discomfort. She ain't no cry baby. I dig being a dad. It's a real shock to the ego and system in general when you walk into a room and your kid gets excited and says, "dadadadadadadadad."
I learned how to drive in early '08 because she was coming, so a whole new realm of possibilities has opened. The realization that I'm the provider for another person is a freaky bit of info that goes 'round and 'round in my head everyday. It has made me focus more on my photography and writing and inspired me to be more productive. I have a tendency to procrastinate and with her (as in life sometimes) she can't wait if she needs a diaper change. Shit is happening now and you better handle it.
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Olympus PEN-FT, Pentax K1000, Olympus Stylus Epic, HP5 film, Ilford satin RC photo-paper, Canon PowerShot SD1000 digital point and shoot, pen, paper, notebook, computer, cigarettes, coffee, devil's lettuce.
Photography - Tobin Yelland, David Uzzardi, Henri Cartier-Bresson, David Schubert, the Westons, Angela Boatright, Brian Gaberman, Noel Gaberman, Ted Pushinsky, French Fred Morgantge(sp?), Rich Hart, Vic Blue, Boogie, Hamburger Eyes Magazine, Black and White Magazine and many more.
Writing - Henry Miller, John Fante, Robert K. Massie, Dave Carney, Jacob Bunge, Travis Jensen, Kurt Vonnegut, Herodotus.
In the next 10+/- min. and the rest of today - more coffee and a smoke. Then Gnar Pad lurking, working on a freelance writing assignment then an article for SLAP Mag. work on my web site and with luck squeeze in a visit from Porous Walker and a skate. But that might be over-stating things a bit. I try to do that everyday.
In March I have 2 artist series decks coming out via Stereo (www.stereosoundagency.com), should be finished with giving my site a boob job by the time this comes out (I hope), a shirt with Orchard skate shop (www.orchardshop.com), some projects with Equal Distribution (www.equaldist.com) and with luck a couple of road trips for Stereo and Slap stuff.
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My name is Milford Sipple and I'm announcing my candidacy for Owenton City Council.
I have lived most of my life in Owen County and have raised my family here. My eldest daughter Stacey Sipple Long is the director of the Owenton Senior Center. My youngest daughter, Robbyn Sipple Wainscott, is the accounts payable clerk for the Owen County Board of Education. I also have two grandchildren who attend the Owen County School System.
I want to encourage people to get out and vote on Nov. 4.
I agree with our Owen County Clerk Laurie Stivers that it is a shame we did not have a better turnout for the Sept. 16 election.
Now that the alcohol vote is over, I agree with you in that our community needs to focus our energy on fighting the battle on drugs in our county.
I believe one step we can take in that direction is to vote for Mark Bess for Owen County Sheriff on Nov. 2.
Chuck Tackett is a local Scott County farmer and magistrate running for state representative for the 62nd District which includes Scott and Owen counties. Without a doubt, Chuck Tackett is the most qualified man to represent us in Frankfort.
I have known Chuck for many years. He has always been a dear friend to my family, a leader among our farmers, and rock for the community as a whole.
Our lives seem so busy in today's world that we do not take the time to express to others, and more importantly God, our thanks for the freedoms and privileges we have as Americans.
I invite all Owen countians to join us around the flagpole at the Owen County Courthouse for a memorial prayer remembering 9-11 and those who lost their lives on that day.
We also need to pray a prayer of thankfulness for our first responders and the many volunteers in Owen County who daily aid those in need.
Care to take a guess as to how many cell phones there are in Kentucky?
According to date released by the Kentucky State Police in 2012, Kentuckians held approximately 3.2 million cell phones.
Care to take a guess as to how many calls are placed to Kentucky 911 emergency centers per year? According to 2012 data, that number is 3.6 million.
Yes, that number is staggering. But as we all know, dialing 911 in an emergency is the most important thing you can do.
It is with a heavy heart that I write this letter. Our lives changed forever the day we lost our dad and Papaw, Rick Morgan.
There will always be a void where his smile used to be. As we do our best to push through every cup of coffee without him, every meal where he is not there, every NASCAR race I can't watch with him, every morning to daycare without him, every college football game we'll never get to talk about, and every moment that has been taken from us. Please keep me and my family in your thoughts and prayers.
The Tailgating for Troops program is well on its way to being a nationally sponsored program based right here in Owen County.
My wife and I purchased land off of 607 back in October and fell in love with the area. We are very happy with our decision to buy in the area and eventually move down full time.
We moved our company headquarters to Owen County just a few short months ago due to the generosity of John Ashcraft and the support of Kim Hawkins at Ashcraft Realty. We cannot thank them enough and we are thrilled to be here.
I wish to ask the people of Owen County to join in a nationwide prayer and fasting from Sept. 1 through 11 against a possible attack on American soil.
Our prayers are mighty through God.
"For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but divinely powerful for the pulling down of strongholds," II Corinthians 10:4.
Please pray for protection over our banking systems, highways, airways and mass-transit systems, public arenas, and especially our shopping malls.
We were caught unaware on 9-11, 2001 by we must be wiser this time.
I would like to say a few things about Rick Morgan.
I have know him since I was a police officer back in the early '70s and when he started with the fire department about the mid-70s.
He was already ready to volunteer to help in any way he could.
In the 20 years that I have been in pubic office, I have had a lot of contact with Rick and discussions about a lot of things. He was always for what was best for Owen County.
When I was sheriff and we had the snowstorm of 1978, he was there.
Whne we had the flood of '79, he was there.
It has recently been said that there will only be five people who will profit if Elk Creek Vineyards is allowed to open our tasting room on Sunday. That statement isn't true, and has compelled me to share my story.
My name is Laci Rollins; my husband, Rob Rollins, first moved to Owen County with his family in 1988, and in 2008, he introduced me to this hidden gem of a town that I now call home.
Over the past year, the winery has become part of our family.
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The political road to setting up a National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) will be incomplete unless the two wealthiest Liberal states of Queensland and Western Australia come on board, Prime Minister Julia Gillard says.
Ms Gillard on Monday urged the disability sector to keep up the pressure on the states and territories to support the $15 billion-a-year scheme, ahead of a Council of Australian Governments (COAG) meeting in Canberra on Friday to thrash out some of the detail.
Addressing the conference of National Disability Services chief executives in Sydney on Monday, Ms Gillard hailed Victoria, NSW, Tasmania, the ACT and South Australia for agreeing to be part of the NDIS first stage, when they host five launch sites from mid-2013.
About 410,000 Australians living with a disability will be impacted by the scheme and will be closely watching the COAG meeting for signs of progress as the federal government tries to nail down key arrangements for stage one.
"So this Friday, on behalf of all Australians with disability, I will be holding those five premiers and chief ministers to their word, as they will be holding me to my word," Ms Gillard said.
"I want you to do the same. Talk to the premiers and chief ministers, the state and territory treasurers and disability ministers. Tell them that you want to see this done."
Ms Gillard stressed the importance of Queensland and WA getting on board.
"Remember that as we begin this journey, it is incomplete because our two wealthiest and most dynamic states haven't yet come on board," she said.
The prime minister also took aim at the federal coalition, saying anyone who described the NDIS as a "cruel hoax" because of budget constraints or concerns about the economy were negative "policy weaklings".
But Opposition Leader Tony Abbott rejected this, saying the coalition supported the scheme, even though the question of how it would be funded was still to be resolved.
"When it comes to the National Disability Insurance Scheme, I am Doctor Yes," he said.
The head of the Every Australian Counts campaign, John Della Bosca, said there was an urgent need for both leaders to commit to funding the scheme's transition from the launch sites to full national rollout, which is estimated to cost about $4 billion to $5 billion over four years.
His message to the WA and Queensland premiers was "the N in the NDIS is the most important things about it."
"There's an expectation that all premiers will support the prime minister in endeavours to put the scheme together," he told AAP.
While Mr Abbott did not directly pledge coalition funding for the scheme, he nominated service delivery and the structure of the NDIS as key issues.
"Yes, there are important questions of funding that are yet to be resolved," he said.
"But this is a vital journey ... and a journey on which we are all agreed the destination."
Mr Abbott committed his annual Pollie Pedal charity ride to again raising money for Carers Australia in 2013.
Queensland Disability Minister Tracy Davis hit back at Ms Gillard's remarks, saying the sunshine state fully supported the scheme and was helping to design it.
"Unfortunately, due to the financial mess left behind by the former Labor government we are unable to participate in a trial unless it is funded by the commonwealth," she said.
Meanwhile, WA Premier Colin Barnett said his state had offered to run a launch site.
"But the federal government declined," Mr Barnett said, adding that in WA 70 per cent of the funding for disability services already came from the state government.


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Six weeks before Allison Andrew-Harris put her house on the market this spring, she started staging it in an effort to woo potential buyers.
But when it came time to revamp her bookshelves, the co-owner and man-ager of Country Furniture and The Other Room in North Vancouver was surprisingly stumped. Andrew-Harris, an interior designer by trade, couldn't get those bookshelves to look right, even with years of styling experience under her belt and a store full of accessories at her disposal.
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"I have huge bookcases and I wanted to make them look as good as possible," Andrew-Harris recalls. "So I lined up all my books and I just hated the way they looked - this is not what I wanted the bookcases to look like! - it's a rec room and I wanted it to look inspiring to people who came to see our house."
Faced with a potential bookshelf boondoggle, what did she do? She didn't consult any magazines or scrap-books for inspiration. She didn't ask designer friends for advice or randomly Google the topic. Instead, Andrew-Harris went straight to her computer, logged on to her Pinter-est account and typed in the word "bookcase".
Instantly, hundreds of hot-looking bookcases appeared on her screen, all decorated in different ways and styles.
Each image was readily available for Andrew-Harris to "pin", saving the ideas on to her own virtual bulletin board, while making a montage to refer back to again and again.
For those who've been accustomed to creating concept image boards and magazine clipping files by hand, Pin-terest has become a game changer when it comes to home décor. It's also a great source for DIY design projects, gardening, fashion, art and cooking.
Launched in beta-testing mode in March 2010, Pinterest has been the fastest growing social media site ever, clocking in over 104 million total visits in March 2012 (third behind heavy hitters Facebook and Twitter, respectively, according to Experian Hitwise, a tracking service for online trends.)
The interface is simple to use. For the visually oriented and curious, the appeal is obvious: Pinterest offers order to Internet bedlam. If you see something you like, no longer do you need to bookmark whole websites (then try to remember what it was on those sites that interested you). Now you simply choose an image and pin it.
After searching and pinning on Pinterest, Andrew-Harris "went to town" on her bookshelves.
"I spent eight full hours merchandising my bookcases and you would not believe how good they looked," she recalls.
She also redid her mantel and her kids' rooms using Pinterest. Today a convert, Andrew-Harris tells all her clients and friends about the site.
Millions of new pins are added to Pinterest every week. Interest is piqued by seeing what other users are pinning instantly, simply by "following" them, and attracting followers to your own boards in turn. If you see something you like on another's Pin-terest, you can let them know by liking it, re-pinning it, and/or commenting on it.
There are no limits to who you can follow and who can follow you, as long as you comply with Pinterest terms of use (which are pretty basic, but stern pertaining to copyright and sourcing, no nudity or hateful content).
However, while anyone can look and search Pinterest, at present, actual membership is by invitation only. You can request an invitation to join at Pinterest.com or ask a friend with a Pinterest account to "invite" you in. And you'll need a Facebook or Twitter to create a new account on Pinterest.
Andrew-Harris has seen a sharp rise in her customers' use of Pinterest, along with her own.
"People just need assistance [with décor] and they don't necessarily want to hire a designer," Andrew-Harris says. "In the past, I'd often say to clients, go through magazines and rip out some photos as inspiration, but now, I'm not going to tell anyone to buy magazines, I'm just going to suggest they go on Pinterest and put a board together."
"I'm a working mom and a store owner myself and I make the time," she says. "In fact, I'm hooked!"
As for the house that Andrew-Harris staged using Pinterest as tool and inspiration?
It sold, in just seven days.


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YAKIMA, Wash. — A U.S.-Canada treaty that governs how the Columbia River and its dams are managed for flood control and power generation should be modernized to better reflect current Pacific Northwest priorities, the U.S. agencies responsible for managing the river said in a draft document Thursday. The document is a working draft to offer insight to interested parties and other stakeholders about areas of concern for the treaty going forward.
Either country may give notice beginning in 2014 that it wants provision of the treaty changed or terminated, and both countries have been working for months to develop their recommendations.
Canada and the U.S. signed the Columbia River Treaty in 1964 to better manage the river to prevent massive flooding in the river's lower reaches, which had occurred in the past, and to generate power for both countries.
In the U.S., the Bonneville Power Administration and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have been working with Northwest stakeholders to develop recommendations for areas where the treaty may need to be changed. Those stakeholders include four states — Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana — 11 federal agencies and 15 Native American tribes.
The draft notes that the treaty has substantial benefits for both countries, but says it must be modernized to reflect the current values and priorities of the Pacific Northwest region.
In addition, the treaty must be flexible enough to adapt to the impacts of climate change and must focus on the benefits to ecosystems in the same way that hydropower and flood control were considered in the original treaty, the document said.
Conservation issues have moved to the forefront in the region since the treaty was first signed nearly 50 years ago. The Endangered Species Act of 1973 forced river managers to consider survival and habitat of threatened and endangered salmon and steelhead that are blocked by the dams from swimming upstream to their native spawning beds.
A draft recommendation will be released for public comment in September. A final recommendation is due to the U.S. State Department, which must make any final decision on the treaty, in December 2013.
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The new Sneads Ferry branch library is scheduled to open by mid-March and the adjoining Education Center is not far behind, according to county officials.
The new Sneads Ferry branch library is scheduled to open by mid-March and the adjoining Education Center is not far behind, according to county officials.
Onslow County Public Library Director Estell Carter said the current Sneads Ferry Branch Library, located at 242 Sneads Ferry Road, is scheduled to close at 6 p.m. Feb. 28. On March 3, library staff will begin moving to the new building, located at 1330 N.C. 210.
�We are planning on opening the facility on or before March 17,� Carter said.
During the move, library patrons will not have access to a Sneads Ferry branch and would need to visit the Jacksonville, Swansboro or Richlands branches, she said. The book return, however, will remain open so materials can be returned. Fines or fees will not be charged during the transition period.
�That facility is going to help us bring a whole new level of library services to that community. The former location, which was only about 2,000 square feet, lacked a lot of the amenities that we need to provide really great service,� Carter said.
The new building will have meeting space, a 20-station computer lab, an improved library collection, reading and study areas, as well as the Environmental Education Center and outdoor classroom.
It will also offer more programs, like children�s story times and other educational programs.
�The community has been waiting for this for a long time. We get questions every day: �When is the building going to open?� It�s a beautiful facility, I think it�s something the citizens can be proud of,� she said.
Currently the Sneads Ferry branch library serves about 2,000 people per month. Carter expects to see a 25 to 30-percent increase in traffic when the new facility opens.
�We expect to see heavy foot traffic in that building not just because the library is there but because it offers the other things too, the environmental education center and those other educational opportunities,� she said.
While the library plans to open in March, the Education Center is expected to follow in April, according to Onslow County Museum Director Lisa Whitman-Grice.
�It was a goal and part of the mission of this facility was that it must have an environmental education focus,� she said. �The exhibit we are calling �Discover Onslow� and our goal, our mission is to create a deeper awareness and understanding for our residents and for our visitors because this will also be, we are certain, a tourism draw and to create that deeper awareness and understanding and appreciation for the natural beauty and natural spaces in Onslow County.�
According to Whitman-Grice, the exhibit will focus on the natural environment and will discuss the White Oak and New rivers and their importance to the area, as well as the plants and animals in the area. It will also highlight environmental stewardship and ways to make a difference, including recycling and attracting birds.
�Onslow County is home to thousands of species of beautiful creatures and we�ll help you be able to see some of those,� she said.
The exhibit will also feature a taxidermied American alligator that was killed after attacking a Siberian Husky in the Mill Creek Green area near Northwoods Shopping Center.
�This is an opportunity for that creature to again educate people to what wildlife is in the area,� Whitman-Grice said of the reptile.
The center will also be home to a stuffed black bear, some foxes and a turkey.
�People don�t expect to see a wild turkey, and I think that�s just it. Often times we are surprised at the diversity of the wildlife that is here,� she said.
The exhibit was originally slated to cost $100,000; however, the Onslow County Board of Commissioners approved another $35,300 being added to the budget during its Feb. 17 meeting. According to information from the county, $26,000 has been spent on exhibit design services plus $9,300 for taxidermy services. The remaining and additional funds will be used for final fabrication and installation.
Whitman-Grice said the new facility aims to help residents and visitors alike appreciate what Onslow County has to offer.
�Ultimately the goal is for people to just have a much deeper appreciation for what beautiful natural areas are here and for the plants and animals that can be found in these green spaces, these natural areas, and sometimes in our own backyard,� she said.
The 1,206-square-foot outdoor classroom is one of Whitman-Grice�s favorite parts.
�It�s screened in so it looks like a beautiful screened-in porch but can you imagine having a classroom for children in this outdoor area learning about the environment. It�s the perfect setting to teach children about ecology and the environment,� she said.
The Environmental and Education Center, which was slated to cost $4.5 million, will be 11,722 square feet with a 464-square-foot building that will provide shared space for outdoor activities and the outdoor classroom.
According to information from the county, the land was acquired in August 2011 through a partnership with the Land Trust for America, Inc. and Ralph Huff. The 97-acre site was a sale/donation for $24,000. Its tax value is $333,500, according to the county.
Amanda Hickey is the government reporter at The Daily News. She can be reached at email@example.com.


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These cute boats are a fun and easy summer project even for a group of kids. The basic materials are a discarded milk carton, straw and napkin.
Items needed:
- Milk carton
- Straw
- Napkin
- Scissors
- Tape
- Colored Duct Tape (optional)
- Lay carton on side, so that the carton has a "pointed" bow. Carefully cut the top side away. It is easier if you poke a hole into the center and then make a big X, then cut along the sides to remove the entire side.
- Each boat can be customized by adding extra little boxes to the inside of the "boat" or adding a paper tube for a smokestack, etc.
- We taped the sides and front bow section with colored duct tape but you can also use permanent markers to color plain duct tape. Decorate with stripes, squares, etc. Since the boats float on top of the water, you could even color masking tape. Permanent color markers would work also.
- For our big boat (1/2 gal size), we took the bottom section of another 1/2 gal carton and made it into a cabin of sorts.
- To make a sail, fold a napkin in half, making a triangle, and then make tiny slits along the edge (not too close to edge or it will tear). Insert the straw into the slits, weaving from front to back. Tape top of napkin to straw to hold in place.
- Make a small hole, either in the bow of the boat, or if you made a cabin, to slide the straw "pole" into to keep in place. You could also tape the "pole" to the side or back of your boat.
- Now, just go float the boats for some real summer fun!


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GNOME 2.18 is out, on time as usual. The top-class free desktop for the masses looks and feels better than ever. It integrates another load of improvements done in the visual design, the performance of the desktop components, and the growing collection of integrated applications. The web browser and the themeable window manager are two good examples to check.
Personal security is now fully integrated into the desktop, allowing digitally signed communications, encryption of emails and local files, and user-friendly management of personal keys. Internationalization records progress in all directions, with support for vertical text layout and a full Arabic localization matching the quality standards. The official release incorporates essential tools for developers, which hopefully will contribute to get more and better software for the GNOME users.


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Hi everyone. We have decided to wait a while before adopting a puppy. After researching this breed for the past few months, and seeing what dedicated people there are out there who care about this dogs, I definately want our future puppy to be a cavalier! We set aside a little money for our puppy endeavor and I would like to donate this to a dog, group, owner, etc. in need. Does anyone know of a special situation that could use a little help (it's not much, but hopefully every little bit will count). Thanks for all your help and advice and I look forward to "introducing" our new cavalier in the future!


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The Bluffton High girls tennis team earned its first victory Wednesday with a road sweep of Beaufort Academy.
In singles, Bluffton's Catie Meighan won 6-0, 6-1; Taylor Soop won 6-3, 7-5; Cooper Baxter won 6-1, 6-2; Lauren Bierschenk won 6-0, 6-2; and Anna Rathke won 7-5, 6-4.
In doubles, Angie Castrillon and Emily Rhodes won 8-6; and Maya Wright and Camille James won 8-1.
The Bobcats (1-1) will play their first SCHSL Region 8-AAAA match against Ashley Ridge at 3:30 p.m. today.
Bluffton swimming
pool changes
There are time changes this week at the Bluffton Indoor Pool. Tuesday and Thursday, lap swimming hours will extend to 4 p.m. but the pool will close to the public at 4::15 p.m. allowing the pool to be set up for high school swim meets.
The Bluffton indoor swimming pool is located at 55 Pritchard Street.
For more information, call 843-706-2285.
Locals fare well at Indigo Run
Several local players posted top-10 finishes at the Hurricane Junior Golf Tour event held Sept. 8-9 at Indigo Run.
Toks Pedro of Hilton Head Island finished first in the boys 15-18 division with a two-day score of 143. Jonathan Phillips of Hardeeville finished eighth with a 151.
Isidora Quevedo of Hilton Head Island was second in the girls 15-18 division with a 157. Bluffton's Brandi Hammonds placed third with a 158.
Hilton Head's Meredith Langs finished second in the girls 11-14 division with a 176.
Sand Sharks fall to unbeaten Flagler
The University of South Carolina Beaufort women's soccer team was unable to generate many scoring chances against Flagler College, losing 4-0 to the NCAA Division II Saints on Wednesday at Fin Land Field.
The Saints (5-0-1) scored a quick goal when Jessica Jagielski assisted on Cassie Fernandez's first goal of the season in the fifth minute.
Cristina Coca had to make only one save thanks to Flagler's strong defensive effort.
The Sand Sharks (2-4) host non-conference games against Emmanuel College at 5 p.m. Friday and against Florida Christian College at 1 p.m. Monday before opening Sun Conference play against SCAD at 5 p.m. Wednesday.
USCB men's golf places fourth in Florida
NORTH PALM BEACH, Fla. - The stormy weather that caused delays throughout the tournament forced the Northwood Seahawk Shootout to be shortened from 54 holes to 45, and the University of South Carolina Beaufort men's golf team finished in fourth place, led by freshman Cory Cottrell's sixth-place individual showing.
Cottrell carded a 1-over-par 37 in his nine holes during Tuesday's final round, finishing at 4-over 182 in his first collegiate tournament. He was five shots off the winning score set by Southeastern's Isaac Spencer.
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The Bluffton High volleyball team will conduct a fundraiser at Josie's Self-Serve Yogurt from 2 to 6:30 p.m. Sept. 23.
A percentage of the money taken in by Josie's during those hours will be donated to the volleyball program.
The Bluffton High boys and girls lacrosse teams will hold a fundraiser at Mellow Mushroom in Bluffton from 5 to 8 p.m. Sept. 25.
After paying your bill, drop your itemized receipt in the jar marked "Bluffton LAX". The lacrosse program will receive 10 percent of the total receipts that are dropped in the jar between 5 and 8 p.m. The proceeds will go toward equipment and Uniforms.
Junior Team Tennis registration Oct. 15
Registration for the local Junior Team Tennis League's fall-winter season begins Oct. 15, with match play scheduled to run Nov. 17 to Jan. 31.
Junior Team Tennis is a coed league for junior players ages 10-18. Local teams compete in beginner and intermediate divisions in Beaufort County and Georgia. Three local teams advanced to the state championship this summer in Florence.
Call league coordinator Bob Brown at 290-2833 for more information. Registration is online and requires a discounted USTA membership plus a team fee.
Callawassie Island tournament Nov. 5
The 12th annual Friends of Callawassie charity golf tournament is scheduled for 9 a.m. Nov. 5., at the Tom Fazio-designed Callawassie Island Club Course.
The "Tee It Up for a Worthy Cause" tournament will have a shotgun start, feature the modified Pinehurst (USGA) format, and will be limited to 60 two-person teams. Cost is $135 per player and includes green fee, cart fee, prize merchandise and an awards luncheon.
Tickets are available by calling the Callawassie Island Club Pro Shop at 987-2161.
Hank Haney International Junior Golf Academy students swept all three divisions at a recent tournament at Hilton Head National.
In the boys 15-19 division, Aaron Terrazas (Mexico City, Mexico) fired rounds of 72 and 70 to come from behind and edge classmates Poom Pattaropong (Bangkok, Thailand) and Patrick Albanesi (Avon, Conn.) by one stroke.
In the boys under 14 division, Hank Haney IJGA student Tennoshin Ogawa (Ichinomiya-shi, Japan) posted rounds of 69 and 76 to defeat classmate Taisuke Ono (Tokyo).
Rei Nakatani (Tokyo) won the girls under 19 division, shooting 73 and 78 to edge out classmates Cake Phuchanbanchob (Chiang Mai, Thailand) and Kelly Whaley (Farmington, Conn.) by one stroke.


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Quvenzhané Wallis could make Oscar history on Sunday by taking home the best-actress statue. WSJ's Rachel Dodes joins Lunch Break with a look at her odds, especially up against favorite and fellow youngster Jennifer Lawrence. Photo: AP.
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The unprecedented level of public anger over the screw-ups in the preparations of the Commonwealth Games can be best understood if we see it as a clash between two Indias. Vir Sanghvi writes.columns Updated: Sep 26, 2010 13:03 IST
These days we hear a lot about the clash of the two Indias — the India of the villages vs the India of the cities; deprived India vs shining India, etc. This conflict is undeniable but we are neglecting another clash between two other Indias which is subtler but no less significant.
The unprecedented level of public anger over the screw-ups in the preparations of the Commonwealth Games (CWG) can be best understood if we see it as a clash between two Indias.
The people in charge of the Games typify old India: corrupt, slothful, incompetent, chaotic, unconcerned with the pursuit of excellence, unwilling to benchmark against global standards and convinced that in India, sab chalta hai.
The people who are most angered and horrified by the CWG mess are those who believe that we are creating a new India: one that can do things to global standards, whose competence and intelligence are highly regarded all over the world, an India where people work hard, where there are high levels of accountability and where commitments are treated as sacred.
When Indians talk about ourselves these days, it is this new India we allude to. It is the new India that is an emerging superpower. It is the new India that is the rival of a resurgent China. It is the new India that the world is rushing to befriend and to invest in.
But just as we begin to believe the hype about the new India, the old India comes back and bites us in the arse.
One reason why there is so much public outrage over the CWG mess is because we perceive the old India as having failed the new India. On the one hand, we talk about competing with China. On the other, we can never ever dream of matching up to the standard of the spectacular Chinese Olympics. In fact, as long as the old India types are in charge, we can't even organise the Commonwealth Games, a relatively minor league event.
In the eyes of the world, we are now a laughing stock. We can brag as much as we like about the new India. But when it comes to delivering on an international commitment, we are no China. We are still corrupt, slothful old India.
The most horrifying aspect of the CWG fiasco is that the guys at the top still don't get it. You and I may think we are building a new India. But the old geezers who are still in charge are content to live in the old India.
Take sports minister, M.S. Gill
(age: 74), a retired babu and the man who must take the rap for many of the screw-ups. Gill's view is that the Commonwealth Games are like an Indian wedding. There will be disasters. There will be chaos. There will be confusion. But somehow, it will work out in the end. This is India, yaar, he suggested, this is our way of doing things.
It is hard to think of an attitude that is more out of tune with today's times. Forget about systems, forget about delivery dates and forget about accountability. It's like a shaadi, yaar. Ho jayega. Somehow!
Or take Jaipal Reddy (at only 68, the baby of this Cabinet). After Suresh Kalmadi fell into disrepute, Reddy was moved in by the government to keep an eye on things. Much of the faulty construction is the responsibility of his ministry.
What do you suppose Reddy's attitude to the recent foul-ups is? The collapse of the overbridge that injured several workmen. The false ceiling that caved in, etc.
These are minor matters, he says. Why focus so much on them? These things happen, he suggests. And finally, there is the inevitable appeal to patriotism, always the last refuge of the politician. All of us should focus on the positive aspects of the Games and not draw attention to the disasters. Because India's prestige is at stake.
And who do you suppose put our prestige at stake? The people who oversaw the collapsing bridges? Or you and I who worry about this disaster in the making?
When the Cabinet is full of people who operate in a chalta hai environment, can you be surprised by the attitude of the organising committee?
Every Indian I know was deeply ashamed to see the pictures of the filth in the Games Village and to read the reports about the state of the athletes' accommodation: human crap on the floor, paan stains on the wall, dirty loos, and animal footprints on the beds.
And yet, how did the organising committee react? According to Lalit Bhanot, the problem was merely one of the differing standards of western hygiene and Indian hygiene.
With that single response, Bhanot summed up the difference between his India and ours. In his India, it's all right if people crap on the floors of bedrooms meant for athletes. If anybody complains, then they are just using western standards of cleanliness.
This clash between the two Indias runs through almost every aspect of the CWG fiasco. In the old India, it is unthinkable for officials to disperse hundreds of crores of rupees without pocketing substantial kickbacks for themselves.
So it is with the CWG organisers. Forget about the over-priced equipment purchased for the Games or the dodgy companies hired at huge cost to perform meaningless tasks. Even the contracts for constructing buildings and roads have been awarded on the kickback principle. Why else do you suppose the infrastructure is so shoddy? Why else would bridges fall, buildings remain incomplete and ceilings cave in?
The tragedy of the Commonwealth Games is that it did not have to turn out like this. If we had assigned the Games preparations to the private sector — to any of the infrastructural companies that run airports, build hotels etc — budgets would have been adhered to, deadlines would have been kept and the construction wouldn't have been sub-standard. Moreover, there would have been accountability. If the private sector fails, then it doesn't get paid.
Alternatively, the government could have displayed some leadership. In 1980, Indira Gandhi recognised that the Asian Games would be a fiasco unless the government got involved at the highest level. Rajiv Gandhi oversaw the preparations, deadlines were kept, the infrastructure survives till today and the Games served as an advertisement for India.
But what this government has given us is a complete repudiation of Rajiv's legacy. The preparations have been handed over to people like Suresh Kalmadi and when ministers have got involved, the task has been left to incompetent windbags. Nor has there been any attempt to find an alternative private sector model.
Is it any wonder that we are all so angry? As hard as we try to build a new India, this fiasco reminds us that old India still has the power to humiliate and embarrass us.
*The views expressed by the author are personal
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Gretchen Clarke, who with her husband, Waltah, built what was once the nation's largest retailer of aloha wear, has died. She was 78.
Clarke died Jan. 22 of kidney failure at Eisenhower Medical Center in Rancho Mirage, her son Cameron said.
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She became company president in the early 1990s after her husband retired. Waltah, who changed the spelling of his name from Walter because that's how it was pronounced by locals in Hawaii, died in 2002. Their last store was sold in 2001.
In addition to her son Cameron of Rancho Mirage, Clarke is survived by daughters Heather Salsbury of Los Angeles, Gretchen Clarke Plemmons of Eureka, Mont., and Cissy Clarke Milauskas of Glendale; sons Walter Jr. of Honolulu and Rolf of Memphis; and six grandchildren.
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