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Daniel Ellsberg And Others Discuss The Serious Implications Of Wikileaks
from the public-discourse-on-private-infrastructure dept
What we got was a fascinating, nearly two-hour discussion, on a variety of issues related to Wikileaks, transparency, freedom of speech, politics and the law, which never got slow or boring. The event was streamed live, and the Churchill Club has promised to include the video on YouTube, so I'll post that video here as soon as it's up. While it's two hours long, I'd argue that it's well worth finding the time to watch the whole thing. I'd argue that Ellsberg's commentary is the highlight of the first hour, and Zittrain's commentary is the highlight of the second hour (in fact, I don't think he even spoke until almost an hour into the discussion). But the other three panelists all made some thought-provoking points as well.
Ellsberg kicked it off with a cogent analysis of the legal situation Wikileaks faces today. He noted that the US does not have an "Official Secrets Act," which would make revealing secrets illegal. In fact, he notes that while Congress passed one during the Clinton administration, President Clinton explicitly vetoed it. Instead, all we have is the Espionage Act, which is targeted at spies for foreign countries, not Americans leaking information to Americans. He points out that it's a huge stretch to make the Espionage Act cover leaking content, as it's clearly not designed to do that. However, he thinks that the Obama administration is going to try to do so, and he had an intriguing theory as to why. He notes that the Supreme Court has never actually tested the legality of criminal sanctions for leaking info, and that most previous Supreme Courts would have almost certainly rejected such an interpretation of the law. However, he's much less sure of the current Supreme Court, and he thinks the Obama administration is betting that the Supreme Court will back this questionable interpretation of the law.
He then explained his theory as to why Obama would do this, noting (fairly) that this is pure speculation on his part. He notes that despite all the talk about transparency that helped get President Obama voted into office, this administration has been much more secretive and involved in many more highly questionable acts than any previous administration. He noted that President Bush was involved in all sorts of questionable activities as well... but said that when push came to shove, President Bush was proud of his abuse of power, and happy to show it off when such stories leaked out. Obama, he feels, is actually quite embarrassed by his own abuse of power, and his response to such embarrassment is to try to keep stuff as secret as possible. It's as if he's declared war on whistleblowers who call attention to the things Obama is embarrassed about. Ellsberg notes that Obama has brought more indictments for leaking (five) than all other presidents (three) before. Thus, he's hoping that he can use the Espionage Act as a de facto Official Secrets Act, with which he can intimidate the press, and effectively force them to give up any leak sources to prevent future leaks. Abuse of power equals the quest for more secrecy.
Clay Shirky then spoke about the troubling nature of how we rely on the internet for public discourse, but that it's really privately owned, and how that puts tremendous pressure on guaranteeing that such speech will be in any way protected. He notes that, if you are looking to leak material, you should always leak it to an operation in a different country than the info is about, otherwise it makes it easy for the powers that be to pressure the private chokepoints to block the content. Peter Thiel then made an interesting point about the incredibly difficult position in which the heads of corporations are put in these situations. He notes that it's quite easy to say that you'd tell the government to take a hike if it called and said "stop hosting Wikileaks," but it's quite different to really be in that position. He claimed that the real issue is that the government simply has too much power, and that just by saying something, it can put tremendous pressure (much more than people realize) on companies to comply. He points out that the government has tremendous leverage, and mentions the stat that the average person "commits three felonies a day," and suggests that if the government wants, it can and will dig up such felonies to use against people. Thiel twice used the same joke that companies are to government like governments are to terrorists, claiming "we will never cave to terrorists/government... except in every single specific case."
Shirky pushed back on this point, noting that with a privately controlled internet, companies always have outs in their terms of service, that would let them dump any customer they don't like, and that was his main concern. However, Thiel got the better of Shirky in response by asking the audience how many people actually think Amazon dumped Wikileaks due to terms of service violations... or due to government pressure, and everyone agreed it was really government pressure. The terms of service issue is just an excuse to cover up the government pressure.
The discussion turned a bit to the players here, where Ellsberg noted that he has tremendous affinity for Bradley Manning, who is accused of leaking the cables to Wikileaks. Thankfully, the moderator pointed out that 2.5 million people had access to these documents -- a point that is often overlooked -- which suggests that others certainly could have leaked the info as well. Ellsberg also noted that he liked Julian Assange, though he believed Assange had made some mistakes -- but his real identification was with what Manning was going through, with politicians calling him a traitor and calling for his execution. History has mostly vindicated Ellsberg, but he notes that during the Pentagon Papers mess, it was not at all clear that would be the end result. Shirky tosses in a joke about how Assange is perfect for the press, in that he's "a monocle and a persian cat away from being a Bond villian," and notes how the NY Times put a massive attack piece on Assange on the front page at the same time as the first stories about the cable leaks -- and notes that no one did that with "Curveball," the source for Judith Miller's stories on WMDs in Iraq.
Ellsberg also notes that almost everything that Nixon got impeached for, through Presidential fiat, has now been declared legal -- something he finds very disturbing. He specifically calls out warrantless wiretapping (and later notes that Obama voted to give telcos retroactive immunity).
Later on (during the Q&A), Ellsberg made another salient point about Manning: According to international law, US officials are required to further investigate any claims of torture or any complicity in torture -- and Manning had tried to do that. As part of his job, he had discovered either that the US had tortured individuals, or handed them off to others to be tortured, and that was a violation of international law, which required him to investigate it. However, his superiors told him not to. Ellsberg's claim is that Manning was actually the only one who obeyed the law in this situation, and in exposing this issue, he was actually doing what the law required.
There was also a (slightly) heated debate between Zittrain and Thiel on the question of regulation. Thiel believed that less regulation would allow companies to act more independently of government, and Zittrain shot back that then you get situations like the BP oil rig. Thiel pointed out that the situations were entirely different. Zittrain summed it up by stating: "Who should I fear more: corporations or governments, because I just want to get my fears in order." That's actually a pretty good summary of much of the debate -- with the point being that both are issues, and focusing solely on one at the exclusion of the other would be a mistake.
Singham did a nice job talking about things like the massive abuse of gag orders on National Security Letters, and highlighted a group of librarians who stood up to the government, and noted Twitter's recent similar fight (though, he left out Nicholas Merrill who also stood up against a bogus gag order). However, Singham's most salient point was how Amazon's decision to shut down Wikileaks had much further reaching consequences than most people realized:
"What Amazon has done has totally set back the cloud computing movement."As he pointed out, this move is making many individuals and companies think twice about using cloud computing -- especially if it involves servers based in the US or run by US companies. People haven't fully considered the ramifications of this.
Of course, I'd argue that Singham and the other panelists totally skipped over the other element of backlash here: the fact that much of this is spurring people into action to create distributed solutions that are more censorproof. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing. If the response to this is to hold back a "cloud" system that is all about centralization, and instead promote a distributed cloud solution that has many fewer political and legal points of failure... that seems like it could be a good thing. Along those lines, Tim Bray pointed out that it was a bit disappointing that the panel was so US-focused, ignoring the fact that one of the key reasons why Wikileaks is still going strong is the fact that it's not in the US and can go elsewhere in the world. This is a really good point that was unfortunately not given any time at all in the discussion.
One other key thing that many people noted was lacking: no one on the panel was there to argue that Wikileaks was an unquestionably bad thing. Zittrain came the closest (but not that close) in suggesting that everyone had different roles to play, and that people like Senator Lieberman were simply using every power available him to make the case that Wikileaks was bad, suggesting this was his role to play, as it was others' roles to push back on that.
I'm a bit torn on whether or not the panel would have been better off with an anti-Wikileaks panelist. While it might have added more fireworks to the panel, I'd argue that the panel was plenty interesting as is, with lots of insightful points made and discussed. If there was someone on the panel who was anti-Wikileaks, most of the debate would have likely focused on the basic "Wikileaks good/Wikileaks bad" argument where neither side would have been convincing anyone who believed otherwise, and it would have diminished or drowned out completely the other more nuanced points that were made during the discussion.
All in all, I found the discussion to be fascinating to anyone interested in this subject. I wasn't quite sure what to expect going in, and I found that each of the panelists gave me something to think about -- often presenting things in a framework I hadn't really thought about. I didn't fully agree with any of the panelists on specific points, but all in all felt I learned a lot listening to the discussion, something that I rarely find to be true on panels. These notes only scratch the surface of what was said, so if you want to catch the whole thing, check out the video once it's available.


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i have two cats that came to me VERY young from outside, had a vet check them out and due to being poor have done very little other vet things...
i have a 4yr old that goes absolutely ape-snot when in heat, i've tried all the 'free' options, but i can NOT afford spaying, should i just give her away (she's very loving when not in heat) or try to do a spay-n-dash? any ideas? i've tried calling the local humane society but they want to tack on all these extra $20's and $50's to the bill because i haven't gotten them shots
any ideas?
Have you checked with the office manager at the original vet you went to, to ask them if they will allow you to pay in installments?
Giving the cat away is not going to solve the issue, in that case she is better off being surrendered to the humane society so she will not be allowed to bring more unwanted kittens into the world.
A "spay & dash" as you put it also would not work as in most if not all clinics they will ask for payment before you get the cat so at that time they may also go over any instructions as to after surgery care with you, then they will retrieve the cat from the kennels.
Avoid biting when a simple growl will do
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Where do you live? We might be able to find subsidized spay/neuter programs for you. We have one here in my city called SNAP that provides free speutering for those that can't afford it.
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Extra tlc for cat in heat - reply to AnnmarieC.
I found your advice the most helpful. My neutered male has been trying to comfort my little girl, but she still has been making the most horrendous noise! So I tried what you suggested, lots of rubdowns and body scratching. It seems to help. We are living with friends right now, so I can't afford for Scout to be making alot of noise. I am grateful for this forum.
I know I'm coming in YEARS after the question was first posted, but I'm sort of surprised that no posts have addressed one particular way to bring a queen out of heat.
NOTE: I spent about 10 years as an animal foster parent and wound up with more than one queen in heat. I was Googling around tonight to find a better description for the process other foster parents and I used (didn't find one).
FURTHER NOTE: The following is not for the faint of heart.
Thank you to my husband, who always assisted me in these queen-in-heat endeavors. Based on recommendations from other foster parents, I would get a digital thermometer (with a disposable cover), coat the tip with some sort of lubricant, and...well...gently diddle the kitty. And when I say "diddle the kitty," I mean maybe a quarter to a half inch of penetration (and no thrusting!).
The queens always screamed like banshees during the process (like they hadn't already been wandering around the house screaming?); afterward, they rolled around on the floor (and I think they asked us, in cat language, for a cigarette).
The "lustiest" queen required three such treatments.
I'd feel dirty for sharing this with you, but I saw the queens' relief afterward.
You mention being surprised that you can't find your technique on google or other forums, and there's just one reason for that:
It's just something that virtually NO sane cat owner would consider doing.
(whether breeders and fosters do it themselves is irrelevant)
Just IMHO.
I'd also like to add, that I don't suggest anyone EVER follow this advice regardless- You could seriously injure your cat digging around in there.
SUCH bad advice.
soothe the cat
now i know many of you may think that this is a little unorthodox but it does work. My cats go into heat the same time but a week apart usually, so what do I do? well the cat want to get layed and thats why she keeps moaning and being lovable so i give her what she wants. I usually do one of two things I either rub the under side of her thighs while holding her by the scruff (like a male would do) and the howling will get louder, but when she starts to squirm i let her lose and she will wriggle on the floor like a worm and then take off, in silence for an hour or so.
The other option i do if it gets really bad, is i take a qtip and same hold her scruff with one hand and rub her with the qtip around her v with the other, until she wants free and same takes off this time for about two hours in silence. It really does work, but not many people think its right. All i am doing is basically doing what she cant, unlike us humans . I would never insert anything into my cat though only external rubbing to make sure I dont harm her
soothe the cat
Pixie is just beginning heat. Moses & Maverick were neutered right on time (here we have to wait till 6-mo.s.) but there was a terrible virus killing cats, & ours ended up in the hospital for a couple weeeds. Anyway, the thread ideas are helping, definitely trying the rub-downs, both husband & I are massage therapists, & he's worked professionally with pets, so stands to reason. Poor little Pixie. We called the agency & begged them to get her in soon, & possibly take even less to spay her.
Depends on the cat maybe????
When our 2 year old female calico goes into heat we found that first off has to me to do the consoling, the wife just won't do.
What I do is i hold her against my chest, humming in low tones, but I hold her to allow her to let her stretch her body out so her feet are dangling, and i gently massage her belly while I'm humming. She gets extremely relaxed and doesn't meow so much after I do that for about 5-10 minutes a few times a day.
At night time she lays next to me and the wife, and we both keep a hand on her and she sleeps through the night with us also.
I don't know if it is just because we got lucky, but I think as long as you're not doing something to not bring harm to the cat, and it helps her through a tough time, then do it.
So if someone wants to flame this post, meh, you don't matter. I know my cat, and I know what soothes her so she's not being noisy, and annoying.
We pay attention to her, and do what we can because we love her very much.
Some cats love being i boxes, some love attention, some love jumping in water. No matter how strange the cure may seem, I think it you truly love your companion, and you try to find that thing that comforts them through their heat stage, do it. As long as it doesn't harm them, you're still paying attention to them and loving to them, I don't see any harm in thing.
I've had a few cats in my life and these tricks have worked for them all. But they were 2 calico, and 1 siamese. So it might work differently for other breeds of cats and different attitudes of cats.
Cats are individuals. Cats have their own personality. Just like people. Love them, and nurture them, and they'll adapt to you better in my opinion.
On Buttering and Spaying Cats
It is possible--almost anything is possible--but in my experience and according to most vet references, such short heat cycles are indeed uncommon. A week or longer is much more likely. So, yeah. Agreement there.
"But I have a solution.....
Step 2) Put butter between every toe you can find on your cat....
Your cat will spend the rest of the night licking the butter from between it's toes and after the job will be exhausted from the task. "
*WHOA!* Gotta seriously disagree on this much butter. Most cats can tolerate a little butter (e.g., to get a pill down), but that much butter can make many cats very ill. A college student told me how he buttered his cat in what he thought would be a amusing test of the cat/buttered toast paradox (Google it if you don't know about this purported source of perpetual motion.
The cat became extremely ill, and he wound up with a large vet bill.
The idea is basically decent--instead, I would recommend using one of the feline nutritional supplements like Tomlyn Nutri-Cal for Cats (or Kittens) which is even stickier, and thus should occupy the cat for even longer than butter.
Also, it is a very bad idea to have your cat spayed while they are actually in estrus (heat.) The surgery risks are increased, due to inflammation of internal organs. Better to wait until she's gone off heat at least a week.
Most vets do know this; but as with human doctors, 50% of all vets graduated in the bottom half of their class. Just sayin'.
Finally, if you search the Net, or some reference books (such as the otherwise mostly good "The Book Of The Cat"), you will come across advice to shut up a yowling estrus female with anything from a Q-Tip to a rectal thermometer. Inserted internally, to mimic mating.
THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA, for multiple reasons:
1. If you manage to properly mimic mating, anyone who has witnessed regular successful feline matings can guess the obvious danger. A female usually grrrs angrily during mating, and at "peak", she instantly shrieks, hisses, and violently turns and attacks the male cat with a furious spasm of flurrying teeth and claws. This is all extremely fast. Experienced studs know to instantly spring back and head for the hills. Alas, few humans have cat-like reaction times required to avoid attempted disemboweling by their (normally) loving pet. Gushing blood and interesting scars can result.
2. The "satisfied" female often violently jerks and contorts at culmination; with risk of breaking off and leaving part of anything inserted inside her. Can you say Big Vet Bill?
3. The Q-Tip solution is prevalent on the Web, and especially dangerous. Cotton can easily be left inside your cat, and this is Bad.
There's more, but that's enough for now. In general, sticking anything physical inside any of your cat's orifices except her mouth is a Bad Idea.
I apologize if this skeeves anyone out, but biology is a messy thing.
YouTube is rife with ignorance, titling perfectly normal feline matings as Rape, etc. ad nauseum. National Geographic's YouTube vid, with the charming title of "Barbed Cat Penis" is the most useful I found. However, their video of domestic cats mating is far less violent than average reality. The same vid also shows lions mating, and the lioness' violent reaction is much more like what I've observed in over twenty years experience breeding pedigree kittens. Our Tonkinese girls are far more loving, social, intelligent, and gentle than the average cat, but they still turn into miniature lionesses when mated.
It is true that a successfully mated estrus female does indeed shut up for at least several hours or longer. A few large breeders (which I am NOT) keep a "teaser Tom"--a male cat with a vasectomy, I kid you not--for the purpose of quieting females they don't want to breed that heat cycle. Such male cats still spray, so...not gonna work for most people.
It is also true that there is a method of using careful pressure on specific EXTERNAL-only portions of a female cat's hindquarters and abdomen which successfully mimics mating, and stops her yowling for a time, as if she had been bred. It's much safer than any type of physical insertion (except, obviously, one performed by a male cat! Unfortunately, the usual angry grrring, shriek, and striking snake murder attempt still happens, so it seems that barbed penis thing may not be the complete explanation for a female cat's violent mating reaction. Plus, still the problems of learning the technique properly--the exact pressure points and amount of pressure to safely apply; rapid flight to avoid lacerations when she is "satisfied." It requires practice, a certain amount of skill and speed.
And maybe a pair of elbow-length heavy leather fireplace gloves...
My husband likes to call a successfully mated female cat a Cuddly Cobra, because first there's a whole-hearted murderous attack, quick as a striking snake; fortunately this only lasts a couple seconds. Then there's a longer period of luxuriant rolling about, vigorous thrashing, and rabbit-kicking the heck out of innocent slippers, stuffed animals, or any human body part unfortunate enough to come into reach. All this rolling, thrashing, etc. is interspersed with brief hissing bouts and vigorous grooming of her personal bits. Which latter, BTW, are NOT actually touched at all in the external pressure point technique.
I suppose I really should make a video demonstrating this external pressure-point technique...even though it too, is only a briefly useful stop-gap measure, not a substitute for spaying. Apparently, over 50,000 folks think the Q-Tip thing is a good idea, judging by Google hits; far more than know of the effective external pressure points. Sigh...
*ANY* kind of artificial mating to stop a female's yowling should never be done for more than a couple heat cycles in a row, due to increased risk of all sorts of awful disease, including cancer. I can't emphasize this too strongly.
We only use the external pressure point yowl-stop for a queen who goes into heat when it would compromise her health to breed her. Sometimes a first heat can hit at only six months age! Sometimes a nursing queen can go into heat only two weeks after delivering a litter of healthy kittens! It would be quite unhealthy to breed a queen in such cases, but her yowling could indeed drive one to mental instability. Fortunately, the pressure point technique does work. Sometimes it quiets her for an entire night (yay!); sometimes it only quiets her for several hours (boo!); the result is the same amount of silence as mating with a stud, which varies quite a bit.
Nonetheless, spaying is the only safe long-term solution.
Yes, spay/neuter can be quite the budget hit. Here in the U.S., most Humane Societies offer very reduced fees if you're low income; I would hope much of Canada has similar programs.
Last edited by hazelrunpack; June 30th, 2014 at 10:15 AM. Reason: No self-promotion, pls
please give me a clear answer on this issue
hi everyone,
i came across this thread and instantly decided to join the forum mainly so i can ask this question:
if a female cat that has already gone through many heat cycles gets spayed, would that surely prevent her from going into more cycles afterwards or not?
some background info:
i am in damascus syria and used to run a small shelter before the war intensified, now i still take care of around a dozen cats, and of course one of the main issues i deal with is female cats going into heat and it is a much bigger problem for me now than it was back when i had a shelter because now i am in a residential area and the noise causes me major problems with neighbors.
every vet i asked here has told me that if a cat is spayed after it reaches sexual maturity, then the heat cycles won't stop but of course the cat will not get pregnant, and that has been my experience with several spayed female cats, and it lasts for way more than 4 days, i mean currently one of the cats named nunu who was spayed is in heat for the past 15 days and it will last for at least 15 more, the undesirable solution here has always been to give them a hormone injection that within 2 days ends the cycle and its effect lasts for about 5 or 6 months, i don't recall the name of the injection right now and the vet is out of town.
it is paramount that i get a decisive answer on this, could it be that the vets are only removing only the uterus and not the ovaries? is that what is going on? could be animal specific?
i would be shocked if problem could be remedied by doing the surgery differently because the cost and health risk of the injections and the disturbance and stress and the occasional running away of cats due to the heat cycles has all had a huge negative impact on me and the poor animals.
thanks u all so much.
Cat in heat
I laughed because you are so right. I don't think you're a troll just because
you are the pet owner and not your pets owning you. Some people just don't have or like common sense.
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This way when he starts talking about something so off the wall the folks working for Fox can save him from embarrassment.
Tim McCarver seriously needs to be on tape delay.
This way when he starts talking about something so off the wall the folks working for Fox can save him from embarrassment.
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I was planning on reading a commercial outline (Emmanuel's, Gilbert's) in addition to the assigned cases/textbook reading. My question though is: Is it better to read the commercial outline section before or after the assigned case readings? I heard some people say before (to get a good understanding of the broader issue) but I think it would be helpful to fight with the stuff on my own at first. What do people think?


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(NewsUSA) – A set of adult braces is just shy of $5,000 — on average, braces cost around $4,800, as estimated by the Journal of Clinical Orthodontics. Despite the unforgiving cost, without the proper care braces present oral hygiene challenges from discoloration to tooth decay.
"The accumulation of plaque puts wearers at risk for gum disease, tooth decay and discoloration," explains Dr. Mike C. Zauner, "which is why we dentists tend to be super strict on our patients about carefully cleaning around braces."
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It can be painful to say goodbye (temporarily!) to some of your favorite treats, but the damage to your braces and teeth will always be worse.
To take good care of your braces, avoid hard foods, sticky candies, sweets and carbonated beverages. That means no popcorn, nuts, peanut brittle, ice, taffy, caramels, gum, sodas, corn-on-the-cob and the like. When eating occasional treats like soft cookies, cake or pie, brush your teeth afterward to rinse off the excess sugar as soon as possible.
2. Use the right toothbrush.
People with braces must be extra diligent about brushing their teeth. Dentists usually recommend a soft, battery powered toothbrush.
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So, here I am, making doll clothes again! It´s been a long time since I´ve been doing this! I´ve found this abandoned doll (don´t ask me where, but I didn´t steal it :), with dishevelled hair and no clothes and took it home. The clothes are made with my fabric remnants and some velcro. I love those rose buttons! No pattern used. The sleeves turned up a bit eccentric…
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cotton remnants, nice buttons, velcro
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Dec 12, 2010, 02.33 PMby carottesauvage
There you go … The Svankmajer in you pops out!:)
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Dec 12, 2010, 03.15 PMby janul
Hahaha, this made me laugh! Thanks so much for your comment :). I wish there was some Svankmajer in me, I´m a huge fan of his work. However, this is just an innocent doll… :)
Dec 12, 2010, 03.23 PMby carottesauvage
Yes it is just an innocent doll, but she looks very 'alert' for an inanimate object! :0
Anyway, you should go on with your doll series!
Dec 12, 2010, 03.38 PMby janul
lol, let´s see if I can find something more creepy for you… :)
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This month we thought we'd get a jump start on the new year by looking back at some of the local community activities that our retail associates supported or hosted in December. With over 100 stores all across the country, we've got many events to highlight (in addition to their regularly scheduled Spin Doctor clinics & group rides), so let's get started!
First up is our Chapel Hill, NC store, which helped out the local East Chapel Hill Rotary Club bike build this month. Earlier this month, John Bigelow, Store Manager of our Chapel Hill store, along with Gene Carleton and Bo Peele from our Corporate Headquarters, assisted Rotary Club members with building and conducting final checks of 50 brand new kids bikes. The bikes were donated to the Chapel Hill Christmas House, organized by the Chapel Hill Service League, and donated to local families in need to make their Christmas a little brighter.
Our Roswell, GA store was also involved with a Christmas bike build this month, participating in a North Fulton Community Charities organized event. The NFCC collected over 500 used bikes, along with an assortment of scooters and tricycles, to give away this year, in addition to about 300 new bikes donated by various individuals and companies.
After some organization and triage, the bikes needed to be washed, repaired and polished up for NFCC's Santa Shop (held later in the month). Over 100 people showed up to help out with the bike build, including three other local bike shops, in addition to Performance Bicycle, which had donated goods or mechanic help to the event.
A few of the volunteers looked like they must have run a shop in their garage with the huge toolboxes they brought with them (many with Spin Doctor work stands and tools)! Everyone had a great time and enjoyed giving back to the community – although the most fun was test-riding the completed bikes on the impromptu test track set up inside!
Staying with our Roswell, GA store, they were busy a few days later helping a local Cub Scout den to work through some of the requirements for their Ride Right certification. In their session our store team covered cycling laws in Georgia, identified the parts of a bicycle and taught the Scouts how to patch a flat tire. Here's a picture with the Den leader and about half of the kids that were present.
Our Boulder, CO store (the very first Performance Bicycle store) was busy this month helping out the annual Share-A-Gift bike giveaway. Steve LeGoff, Ben Potman and James Terry from the Boulder store volunteered to repair kids bikes for this annual event.
Steve has been volunteering with this event for the past 17 years – this year they helped repair over 115 bikes! The event was a huge success once again, with lots of good cheer all around. Many kids got a great Christmas thanks to the hard work of our team and all of the other volunteers! Congrats guys!
Our San Diego, CA store got in the holiday spirit by participating in San Diego's Christmas Tree Tabernacle. Here you can see our team of Store Manager Jason Eddy (and his daughter Leila), Spin Doctor Josh Job & Sales Manager Chris Murphy, ready to show off their decorating skills.
Chris, Josh and Jason headed over to Liberty Station to decorate their tree, as part of the event to benefit the less fortunate during the holiday season.
As you can see, they put a cycling twist on their choice of ornaments and decorations. Once the day of the event was over the christmas trees were donated to a lucky local family.
Our stores often host local clubs in for special "Club Nights", and our Bonita, CA store hosted a special event with their neighbors from the "Donny's Café" riding club earlier this month. Club leaders Donny and his brothers Tim and John picked up food and supplies, and our team helped set up a wonderful spread for about 50 guests and club members, which spilled over to the cafe next door.
There was even a full Taco stand with a gas stove to cook the meat and heat up tortillas, including all the fixings! Not to mention the pounds of fresh brownies and fudge and peanut brittle for dessert, with Donny brewing fresh coffee. It was a perfect crossover between two of our three favorite pastimes, eating and shopping, only beat out by cycling! Here's Store Manager Greg Heath modeling the Donny's Cafe team jersey:
It was also Club Night in Arizona earlier this month, as our Peoria, Scottsdale and Chandler, AZ stores teamed up to welcome members of the Phoenix Metro Bicycle Club to our Chandler store. The PMBC showed up 71 members strong for this evening event, and our team got to meet and mingle with club members and their leaders in a fun and casual environment. There were even folks form the Coalition of Arizona Bicyclists in attendance, an important bike advocacy group in the state.
The club members and our team had a great time talking bikes and enjoying our complimentary refreshments. There was even some shopping going on, as PMBC members got a special discount during the evening.
In our Novi, MI store, a Team in Training group came by this month for their first spin/run workout from our store. There were 18 spinners and 2 coaches, including one inspiring woman who is training for triathlons in order to lose weight, and she's already lost almost 100 lbs! Our team said that it was great to be able to help her out with questions that she felt too intimidated to ask in other stores, and she even planned to try out our store's indoor cycling class later in the month.Our Speedway Tucson, AZ store also held their first spinning class this month. Here's a picture of James Gurr, one of our store associates and a certified instructor, leading the class. The store manager of our Broadway Tucson store, Margarita Selden, decided to swing by and give the class a try, and Speedway Tucson store manager Wes Coons said everyone enjoyed the class and had fun.
Finally, we wanted to share an interesting story about elite marathon runner Susan Loken and our Chandler, AZ store. As you can read on her blog, Susan is training for the 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials, but an injury hampered her ability to train. Looking for low-impact alternatives that would keep her fitness levels up, Susan heard about the ElliptiGO elliptical bike and decided to give it a try at our store. After some instruction and fitting by our team, Susan was off and rolling in no time!
As you can see below, Susan quickly picked up on the basics of riding the ElliptiGO, and has now incorporated it into her training regime. As Susan said on her blog, "This bike will keep my cardiovascular system strong along with building core and leg strength. It will also keep me exercising outside!" It sounds like nothing is going to stop her from finishing the Olympic Trials, and our team was happy to be a small part of her efforts. We wish Susan the best of luck at the Olympic Marathon Trials in Houston!


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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – Kameron Klauber recorded a hat trick in the game's first nine minutes and MIT cruised to the 8-0 win over Daniel Webster College in non-conference field hockey action Thursday night at Jack Barry Field. Klauber's three-goal effort was the second of her career, both of which have now come against Daniel Webster. Alex Wright scored twice and Molly McShane added three assists to help the Engineers win their ninth straight and improve to 13-1 on the season. The Eagles drop to 7-3 with the loss.
McShane and Klauber connected just over two minutes in as Tech jumped out to an early lead it would never relinquish. Klauber's second goal came three minutes later, an unassisted tally and the junior's team-leading 16th of the year. Klauber then completed the hat trick with 26:15 remaining in the half, after tipping Maddy Wharton's shot into the back of the net.
Wright would score back-to-back goals in the final 15 minutes of the frame, on assists by Wharton and McShane, to send the Cardinal and Gray into the break up, 5-0.
Molly Duffy added a marker just over three minutes into the second, her fourth of the season, as McShane picked up her third helper of the evening. Katie Kauffman and Jessica Oleinik rounded out the scoring for the Engineers.
After MIT controlled possession for almost the entirety of the first half, outshooting the Eagles, 27-1, and earning 13 corners, Daniel Webster battled back over the final 35 minutes, limiting Tech to just six second-half shots.
Keri Dixon and Casey Landry split time in net to record Tech's fourth shutout of the campaign while facing just three shots on goal. Daniel Webster goalkeeper Amy Prince made 11 saves in the loss.
The Engineers will return to conference play on Saturday, October 16, traveling to New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference (NEWMAC) foe, Mount Holyoke College, for a 1:00 p.m. contest. Daniel Webster will host New England Collegiate Conference (NECC) rival Bay Path on Wednesday, October 20 at 3:30 p.m.


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Art in Port St. Joe has just received an upgrade.
Art in Port St. Joe has just received an upgrade.
Five years ago Patti Blaylock, Dana Boyer and Nancy Swider successfully operated the Taste of the Coast Committee, a group whose art shows and auctions were paired with area restaurants for tastings to raise awareness for the burgeoning Gulf Coast art community.
While in operation they gave more than $25,000 in scholarships to up-and-coming artists and art-based facilities working alongside the Gulf County Chamber of Commerce, the Gulf Alliance for Local Arts and the Gulf County Scholarship Committee.
While the group disbanded four years ago, the members recently discovered $1,900 left over in the account and were able to award two final scholarships.
One went to art teacher Julie Hodges, the other to Leslie Wentzell of the local studio, The Artery.
Hodges, the art teacher at Port St. Joe Jr./Sr. High School used her scholarship to purchase additional supplies for her Art 2 class.
�I was pleasantly surprised,� said Hodges when she was notified that she�d be receiving funds from the group. �I had been making a wish list just in case I found extra funding.�
With her part of the scholarship she was able to buy tabletop easels, stretched canvases, artist-grade watercolor paints and oil paints for the new school year.
She was also able to pay the necessary dues to open a chapter of the National Art Honor Society for the school which will provide additional extracurricular activities and honor cords at graduation.
Students will be able to join the society based on a recommendation and will work on upcoming art projects. Hodges has planned the society�s first event to coincide with Veteran�s Day in November.
�It helps the students who are more inclined to do something with art later on,� said Hodges. �It gives them the same opportunities as the bigger schools.�
Hodges will also submit art from the classroom to the Savannah College of Art and Design so that students can get feedback on their work.
Currently, Hodges has 20 students in the class and is excited for them to compete on a fair playing field with other high school programs and views the new supplies as a way to push students to try new mediums and get outside their comfort zones.
Student Brandon Hall was excited about the new additions to the classroom and had already begun his next masterwork on one of the stretched canvases.
�We�ll produce a lot of better artwork,� he said. �Last year, we were limited to what we could do, so this is awesome.�
Hodges still has more supplies she�d like to add to her classes including a printing press somewhere down the line.
�If we don�t do what everyone else is doing, then we can�t get better,� said Hodges.
Leslie Wentzell, owner and operator of The Artery in Port St. Joe received funds to improve her studio programs in any way she saw fit.
Known for hosting summer and afterschool classes for kids across a variety of mediums that include acrylic painting, clay and watercolors, Wentzell chose to put the funds toward scholarships for prospective pupils who have an interest in art, but may otherwise not be able to afford them.
�The biggest impact is to use for the funds for scholarships,� she said. �A good number of children take advantage of them.�
While some students are referred through area schools for scholarships, Wentzell encourages parents to call for more information.
Last year during the holidays, students made and sold Christmas ornaments and the funds went directly toward helping future students get enrolled in classes.
Wentzell�s next class is focused on clay and will begin on Sept. 24. The six-week program is available for kids 7-11 and 12 and older.
For more information on classes and scholarships, visit www.arterystudio.com.
Former Taste of the Coast committee member Dana Boyer remembered the organization fondly.
�We were really trying to do something different in the community,� said Boyer. �We were very successful.�


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Sad to say that after living and hiking up here in New England for so long I've still yet to get a glimpse of Maine's big one, Katahdin.
On Saddleback (Horn) this past Sunday I noticed a very large and pointy peak left of the two Bigelow peaks. It looked like, far into the distance, that it was had some significant elevation, and I know that there's nothing higher between the Bigelows and Katahdin. Looking at the topo map though, it looks like it could also potentially be Big Squaw, so I wasn't sure if anyone knew for sure.


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Talk:List of games
Classification method
Currently, games are first divided in Free/Reimplemented/Commercial/Emulators/MMO and only then they are grouped by genre. I'd like to see the opposite, i.e. first group by genre (also in Template:Games navigation) and only inside each genre make the distinction between native/emulators, free/commercial and whatever distinction better suits that particular genre.
Note that this topic has already been briefly touched on in Talk:Common_Applications/Games/MMO#MMOG by me and AlexanderR, but more opinions are needed.
-- Kynikos 08:45, 5 February 2012 (EST)
- +1 -- when browsing games, one would logically search by genre first. The genre classification scheme is more consistent with the other Common Applications pages, too, where applications are organized by type first, then by UI/platform (graphical or console). -- pointone 12:25, 4 March 2012 (EST)
Formatting question
The first letter of the description should be capitalized?
- There's no official policy, but it seems that most descriptions start with lowercase unless the first word is a proper name. -- Kynikos 06:15, 5 March 2012 (EST)
Should we start to sort the list alphabetically? Leper 12:24, 26 March 2012 (EDT)
- Yep, every improvement is welcome :) -- Kynikos 05:27, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
- Sorted Common Applications/Games/Free. I haven't sorted the Java based FPS as that section seemed odd. -- Leper 12:16, 27 March 2012 (EDT)
Flash/Html5 games does not fit this section, right?--Flu (talk) 22:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC) Ok, read, it does not. Flu (talk) 19:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


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Daniel Radcliffe Lana Del Rey Wasn't THAT Bad on 'Saturday Night Live'
Daniel Radcliffe -- Lana Del Rey Wasn't THAT Bad on 'SNL'
Daniel Radcliffe is coming to the defense of the singer he introduced on "Saturday Night Live" this weekend ... sorta.
Radcliffe was at the Bafta nominations ... when he was asked about Lana Del Rey -- who's been TRASHED by music critics and people with ears alike who suffered through her baffling performance on the show (below).
Radcliffe responded, "It was unfortunate that people seemed to turn on her so quickly."
He added, "I also think people are making it about things other than the performance. If you read what people are saying about her online, it's all about her past and her family and stuff that's nobody else's business."
Radcliffe concluded, "I don't think it warranted anywhere near that reaction."


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Company proposes 650-foot-tall roller coaster on Las Vegas Strip
Hold on to your hats. The Las Vegas Strip may be getting another attraction for risk-loving thrill seekers.
Amusement ride company, U.S. Thrill Rides, plans to spend $100 million on building what they call a "Polercoaster" near the Tropicana Hotel on the Strip. The 650-foot tall coaster would be the tallest in the world and would be a combination of a ride and an observation tower with stunning views of Las Vegas.
In April, U.S. Thrill Rides submitted plans to the Federal Aviation Administration to build the tower-like coaster. The FAA is still determining whether the planned structure will be a hazard to flights coming in and out of nearby McCarran International Airport.
U.S. Thrill Rides President Michael Kitchen is optimistic about his plans for the addition to the Las Vegas skyline.
"Since Las Vegas is one of the top tourist destinations in the world," he told the Las Vegas Review Journal. "We think it will get higher visibility and foot traffic than other places."
The ride will certainly get some screams as well. A description of the ride, posted on the company's website, describes in detail the harrowing, fun-filled experience of riders.
"Trains are boarded by guests," reads the description. "They are then driven to the top loading them with enormous potential energy. Gravity then takes over…aided by designers skilled in wringing every ounce of adrenaline out of that stored energy."
If putting a couple grand on "black" isn't enough to get your blood pumping, barreling down 650 feet at the pace of gravity should definitely do the trick.
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CAMDEN � Camden-Frontier Superintendent Scott Riley said as Tuesday special election draws close he has continued to field calls about the school district�s millage renewal.
The current levy is set to expire in 2014. The levy brings approximately $643,349 to the school system on a yearly basis.
Riley said there continues to be confusion in the community about why the school system is asking for 21 mills versus 18 mills.
The current millage was approved for 21 mills for operating purposes by the 2009 and 2010 elections, so the renewal of the millage would be a renewal of what is already in place.
Riley said although 21 mills were approved by the voters the school district cannot levy more than 18 mills.
�If property values begin to rise faster than inflation, the district�s operating millage would be subject to reduction, also known as �rollback,�� said Riley. �If the district only had 18 mills in place and rollback were required, the district would not receive its full per pupil foundation allowance without another election because the state�s calculation of foundation allowance assumes you are levying a full 18 mills, and the state does not make up the value of a rollback.�
By voting for the 21 mills the district is assured of full funding.
�It is cheaper to vote the full 21 in one election, instead of running two separate elections, one for 18 mills now and one at a later date to restore millage lost to rollback,� he said.
The mills in excess of 18 will absorb any future rollback, unless the rollback in total is greater than 3 mills.
Voters in the Camden-Frontier School District are eligible to vote. Voters can vote for the millage at the Woodbridge Township Hall 2250 E. Montgomery Road from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Tuesday. Absentee ballots can be cast at the Hillsdale County Clerk�s office during business hours today.
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Can a complier work backwords?
what do you mean backwords ? ? ? Decompile ? ?
Yes , there are decompilers out there....
"Serenity is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it."
Yeah there are decompilers out there.
There are a couple Tutorials on AO, about decompiling if you interested in searching.
Whats the difference between decompiling and reverse engineering ???????
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Gigabite: decompiling is a part of reverse engineering..
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So what other processes does reverse engineering involve ?
Is there any tutorial on this (ie reverse engineering)????????
I'm sorry everybody, stupid question.
Reverse engineering is understanding how a system works, generally it connotes that you can describe it accurately, make something that does the same thing, or modify it with confidence.
Decompiling is a mechanical process that takes a piece of software in a low level language (assembler, byte code, etc.) and tries to reconstruct something like the original source code.
The difference between the two is that decompiling is specific to software, and is generally only one step in the reverse-engineering process. (Of course, in the case of Java, it's a big step, Java byte-code tends to decompile quite nicely.)
Some languages like Java and C# compile into an intermediate form (perhaps "byte-code"). This makes them easier to decompile, and there are decompilers available.
They don't produce perfect results.
In particular, for Java there are "classfile obfuscators" which remove a lot of the structure that the decompiler uses (I feel sure that equivalents exist for C#)
But for things which compile into machine code it's more difficult. But not impossible. The end result will be less legible.
But you can still disassemble the code (which is usually pretty illegible)
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Davis Grad Kupp Wins Jerry Rice Award
Jerry Rice has reason to take a liking to Eastern Washington wide receiver Cooper Kupp.
But the legendary Hall of Fame receiver may have to realize Kupp could soar past the prodigious statistics that he produced in college.
On Monday, the Davis High School grad became the third recipient of the Jerry Rice Award, which honors the FCS national freshman of the year. Rice was on hand at The Sports Network's national awards banquet Monday night to present the trophy.
Kupp won by the biggest margin in the three-year history of the award, gaining 80 of the 147 first-place votes and 557 points from a national panel of sports information and media relations directors, broadcasters, writers and other dignitaries. Appalachian State running back Marcus Cox finished second with 259 points, while Sacred Heart quarterback R.J. Noel and Youngstown State running back Martin Ruiz tied for third with 202 points each.
Kupp is the first wide receiver to win the Rice Award. Towson running back Terrance West was the inaugural recipient in 2011 and Villanova quarterback John Robertson won last year.
As a redshirt freshman this year, the 6-foot-2, 195-pound Kupp has had a breakout season unlike any other in FCS history by a rookie wide receiver. In the regular season, he caught 77 passes and 18 touchdowns for the Big Sky Conference champion Eagles, setting a national freshman record with 1,378 receiving yards. The native of Yakima, also caught at least one touchdown pass in all 12 of the Eagles' games - a consecutive game record not just for freshmen, but all FCS receivers.
With EWU's two playoff wins this month, Kupp has pushed the touchdown streak to 14 games. His 85 receptions, 1,567 receiving yards and 21 TD catches have never been reached by a freshman previously.