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The Chair has received notice of a question of privilege from the Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.
The Leader of the Opposition is rising on a question of privilege.
House of Commons Hansard #14 of the 37th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was accord.
10 a.m.
The Speaker
The Chair has received notice of a question of privilege from the Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.
The Leader of the Opposition is rising on a question of privilege.
10 a.m.
Calgary Southwest Alberta
Canadian Alliance
Stephen Harper Canadian AllianceLeader of the Opposition
Mr. Speaker, allow me to rise on a related matter, on a couple of things.
First, yesterday during debate the Chair will recall that the member for Burnaby--Douglas rose on a point of order and I replied to him on his point of order. He made it clear that he took my response to him as a personal insult and, in particular, as a comment about his sexual orientation. I just want to say that I intended no such insult and intended no such interpretation. I will also add that when the hon. member for Calgary Centre rose shortly after to ask me to clarify my remarks, at that point, quite frankly, that particular interpretation had not occurred to me.
I have talked to the hon. member and indicated to him that I am sorry that he took that meaning. I did not intend it, but I am sorry he took it that way. I would just say to the hon. member that I have known him for a long time and we have a lot to disagree on; I do not know if there are any two members in the House who probably disagree on more items. It is very possible for he and I to have a debate on issues of substance. There would be absolutely no need on my part to engage in the type of personal insult that he has alleged, nor if I were to do that would there be any justification in doing so. That said, I intended no insult and am very happy to withdraw my remark that he took that way.
I also am aware that one minister of the crown and some former ministers of the crown took exception to comments I made. I think I made it clear yesterday that I was not making an allegation that any member of the House of Commons was a criminal. I was simply making reference to the fact that a number of members have been forced to resign under a cloud. These situations vary from fairly clear breaches of ethics to much more serious instances where there are in fact investigations by authorities, and in some cases they involve, indirectly, investigations by the RCMP.
But as I say, I just want to make it clear that no member should take the implication that I was making a specific allegation of criminal wrongdoing. If that is the implication any individual member took, I withdraw that.
10:05 a.m.
Glengarry—Prescott—Russell Ontario
Don Boudria LiberalMinister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, I am prepared of course to accept the apology of the hon. Leader of the Opposition at least with regard to myself, having reviewed what the criteria would have been in order to have someone's name posted in a police station and recognizing that we are talking about suspected mass murderers, convicted child molesters and terrorists.
I cannot say, though, after having reviewed Hansard this morning, that the other three members of Parliament, namely the member for Fredericton, the member for Cardigan and of course the member for York Centre, are prepared to accept that. That would be for them to say.
I am prepared to withdraw the question of privilege that I raised this morning, on the strength of the apology of the hon. Leader of the Opposition.
10:05 a.m.
Svend Robinson NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
Mr. Speaker, I had given notice yesterday of a point of order with respect to the comments made by the hon. leader of the official opposition. I believe I heard an apology this morning from him, and on the basis of that apology I will not be pursuing my point of order.
10:05 a.m.
Art Eggleton Liberal York Centre, ON
Mr. Speaker, I too accept the apology given by the Leader of the Opposition, and I hope we can get on with the business at hand.
10:05 a.m.
The Speaker
I thank all hon. members for their assistance.
Points of Order
October 24th, 2002 / 10:05 a.m.
The Speaker
I would now like to deal with the point of order raised on October 22, 2002, by the hon. member for West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast relating to the use of the provisions of Standing Order 56.1. The hon. member argued that an abuse of process had occurred when, earlier that day, the government used Standing Order 56.1 to move a motion to which unanimous consent had been previously denied. The motion in question concerned the report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs establishing the committee membership lists for this session.
I would like to thank the hon. member for West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast for raising this question and of course the hon. Leader of the Government in the House of Commons for his contribution on the matter.
The hon. member for West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast raised three objections in this case: namely, first, that the motion pursuant to Standing Order 56.1 was moved under the rubric "Tabling of Documents" of the daily routine of business and not under the category of "Motions"; second, that the government moved this motion on a day different from the day on which unanimous consent had been denied; and finally, third, that the motion to concur in the striking committee report was substantive, not routine, and therefore ought not to be subject to the provisions of Standing Order 56.1. House of Commons Procedure and Practice, at page 571, describes Standing Order 56. 1 as follows:
If, at any time during a sitting of the House, unanimous consent is denied for the presentation of a "routine motion", a Minister may request during Routine Proceedings that the Speaker put the motion. For that purpose, a "routine motion" refers to motions which may be required for the observance of the proprieties of the House, the maintenance of its authority, the management of its business, the arrangement of its proceedings, the establishment of the powers of its committees, the correctness of its records or the fixing of its sitting days or the times of its meeting or adjournment. The motion, which is neither debatable nor amendable, is immediately put to the House by the Speaker. If 25 Members or more oppose the motion, it is deemed withdrawn; otherwise, it is adopted.
The points raised by the hon. member for West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast are germane to any understanding of Standing Order 56.1, whose invocation has sometimes raised concerns.
Proceedings in this House are governed by written rules, chiefly the Standing Orders, and also by the unwritten practices which hon. members have seen fit to follow over the years. It is clear that, in setting down an explicit rule, the House may adopt new procedures. However, where the House has not made such a deliberate choice, our usual practice is to continue using the way of proceeding that has so far met the needs of the House. When our practice offers no guidance in a particular case, members may raise points of order to seek guidance from the Chair. It then falls to the Speaker to arbitrate between honest differences of interpretation that arise from time to time. I believe that such is the case before us today. Let us therefore consider in turn each of the elements of the objection raised.
The hon. member for West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast contended that the proper place to move a motion during routine proceedings is under the rubric "Motions". It is true, as the government House leader pointed out, that the text of Standing Order 56.1 requires only that the motion be proposed during routine proceedings. However, our practice has always been that during routine proceedings motions, or "routine motions" to cite the actual text of the standing order, be moved under the heading reserved for them. An examination of previous uses of Standing Order 56.1 does not reveal any case where we proceeded differently.
The day before yesterday, the House, and I dare say the Chair, may have been taken somewhat by surprise when such a motion was moved at the beginning of routine proceedings under the heading "Tabling of Documents". Since the motion was ultimately deemed withdrawn, I believe that this occurrence might be seen as an exception that will not recur. Our practice is clear. Motions pursuant to Standing Order 56.1 should be moved under the rubric "Motions", unless there is unanimous consent to do otherwise.
The second point raised by the hon. member for West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast concerned the appropriateness of using Standing Order 56.1 on a day different from the day on which unanimous consent had been requested and refused.
An examination of the records of the House will show that this is an acceptable way of proceeding.
A number of examples may be cited. Unanimous consent was sought on September 28, 1994 and again on October 6, 1994 for permission for a subcommittee to travel. Consent being denied, a motion pursuant to Standing Order 56.1 was moved on October 8, 1994, two days after the request for unanimous consent.
I refer the hon. member to the Debates of September 28, 1994, at page 6263 or October 6, at page 6642, and the Journals of October 7, at page 270. A similar travel permission motion was denied unanimous consent on June 7, 1995 and Standing Order 56.1 was used the following day. I refer the hon. member to the Debates for June 7, 1995, at page 13375, and the Journals for June 8, at page 1594. In a third example on April 21, 1997 unanimous consent was refused to a motion arranging the sitting time of the House with respect to a royal assent ceremony. That motion was proposed under Standing Order 56.1 on April 24. See the Debates for April 21, 1997, at page 10012-13, and the Journals for April 24, at page 1524.
It is clear from these cases that Standing Order 56.1 requires only that the motion in question has been previously refused unanimous consent whether that day or on some previous day.
The last point raised by the hon. member for West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast concerns whether the use of Standing Order 56.1 to propose adoption of a report of the striking committee is procedurally acceptable.
On this last point he maintained that to allow speedy adoption of this report would interfere with consideration of certain proposals now before the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs. The Chair is not persuaded by this view. The Speaker and the House must of course be guided by any changes that may be brought from time to time in our Standing Orders. However, it would be imprudent if not irresponsible for the Chair to impede the House in its normal transaction of business simply because changes are under consideration by a committee.
The crux of this point of order is, in my view, whether or not a motion for concurrence in a report establishing committee membership at the beginning of a session can be reasonably characterized as "routine" and therefore subject to the terms of Standing Order 56.1.
As I stated on September 18, 2001, in my previous ruling on this standing order, Debates , September 18, 2001, p. 5258:
The standing order [56.1] has never been used as a substitute for decisions which the House ought itself to make on substantive matters.
Responding to concerns raised at the time of the introduction in 1991 of the then new provisions of Standing Order 56.1, Mr. Speaker Fraser said:
—this "over-ride" provision can operate, as the Chair understands it, only with respect to a certain very limited range of motions offered at a specific time in our daily agenda by a minister of the Crown—
Mr. Speaker Fraser then went on to speak of what he called, "the very limited application of the new proposal". I have found his cautionary words very helpful in reaching this decision.
All members will agree that the House does very often see fit to approve the membership of committees, or changes to that membership, by unanimous consent. Indeed, the Chair must acknowledge that a review of our modern practice reveals no instance where motions for concurrence in the report of the striking committee have been debated or amended. However, as I pointed out in an earlier ruling, again at page 5258 of the Debates , that:
--if the House from time to time should agree on a way of proceeding by unanimous consent...one cannot assume that such agreements would automatically fall into the category of routine matters as defined in Standing Order 56.1.
Our research tells us that motions to concur in the reports of striking committees have not in modern practice been the subject of debate or amendment. To extrapolate from that, that these motions are therefore routine, not substantive, is in the view of the Chair to go too far. Accordingly, I have concluded that Standing Order 56.1 cannot be used as a recourse in the event that unanimous consent to concur in the report striking the committees of the House is sought and denied.
I can appreciate the viewpoint of the Government House Leader who has indicated that the establishing of committee memberships is of some urgency but I must remind him that S.O. 56.1 was not meant as an alternative mechanism for limiting debate.
If the situation requires it, I know that the Government House Leader will find that he has other procedural means at his disposal to expedite matters.
Once again, I would like the thank the hon. member for West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast for raising the matter and for the views put forward by the hon. government House leader.
I trust this decision clarifies the issues with regard to Standing Order 56.1 and that it will prove helpful to the House in the future.
The EnvironmentRoutine Proceedings
10:15 a.m.
Kitchener Centre Ontario
Karen Redman LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of the Environment
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 32(2) I have the honour to table, in both official languages, a report of the Government of Canada entitled "Achieving Our Commitments Together: Climate Change Draft Plan Overview".
Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
Halifax West Nova Scotia
Geoff Regan LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8) I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to four petitions.
Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
Canadian Alliance
John Williams Canadian Alliance St. Albert, AB
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We have now passed tabling of documents and we do not have anything from the President of the Treasury Board. She has given notice that the Public Accounts of Canada will be available after 3 o'clock this afternoon after question period, where we are going to find out how the $175 billion of taxpayers money has been spent, wisely or otherwise.
Marleau and Montpetit on page 763, note 403, clearly indicates that the Public Accounts of Canada have in the past been tabled by the minister directly in the House. That is in Journals of October 31, 1978, at page 94 and Journals of December 11, 1979, at page 336.
I think it is rather unfortunate that the Government of Canada would slide the information out under the table rather than placing it on the table at routine proceedings.
Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
Mr. Speaker, I am looking at the reference which the hon. member has raised and I note that it states as follows:
The Public Accounts of Canada are usually deposited with the Clerk of the House and the tabling is recorded in the Journals.
Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
Respectfully to members on either side of the House, that is not a point of order, it is a matter of debate, and there may be another time and another place for members to have that debate.
Competition ActRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Ajax—Uxbridge, ON
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-249, an act to amend the Competition Act.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to reinstate this private member's bill from the last session of parliament. The bill seeks to amend the Competition Act to clarify the competition tribunal's powers to make or not to make an order in the case of a merger when gains in efficiency are expected or when the merger would create or strengthen a dominant market position.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Competition ActRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
The Chair is satisfied that this bill is in the same form as Bill C-248 at the time of prorogation of the first session of the 37th Parliament. Accordingly, pursuant to Standing Order 86.1, the bill is deemed to have been read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology.
(Bill read the second time and referred to a committee)
Criminal CodeRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
Svend Robinson NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-250, an act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased this morning to reintroduce my bill pursuant to Standing Order 86.1 and to point out to the House that the bill is identical to the one that I had introduced during the first session of the 37th Parliament. I ask that it be reinstated at the same point it had reached at prorogation, which was that it had been passed by the House at second reading and referred to the justice committee.
The Criminal Code of Canada currently protects Canadians from those who advocate genocide or spread hatred of others based on their colour, race, religion or ethnic origin. My bill seeks only to extend that same level of protection to those who are targeted on the basis of their sexual orientation.
It is important to note that this bill in no way limits or threatens the freedom of religious expression or religious texts.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Criminal CodeRoutine Proceedings
10:20 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
The Chair is satisfied that this bill is in the same form as Bill C-415 was at the time of prorogation of the first session of the 37th Parliament. Accordingly, pursuant to Standing Order 86.1, the bill is deemed read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.
(Bill read the second time and referred to a committee)
Patent ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Ajax—Uxbridge, ON
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-251, an act to amend the Patent Act (patented medicines)
Mr. Speaker, the bill concerns patented medicines and seeks to amend the Patent Act by repealing the power of the governor in council to make regulations preventing the infringement of the patent by any person who makes, uses, constructs or sells the patent invention solely for uses reasonably related to the development of a submission.
For the information of members, the bill addresses, for example, the inequality of regulations currently attached to the Patent Act. This concerns the rather odious practice of permitting automatic injunctions to some brand name pharmaceutical companies that are claiming patent infringement when in reality they are merely seeking a delay of entry on the market of cheaper generic drugs once an existing patent has expired.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Income Tax ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-252, an act to amend the Income Tax Act.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to move this bill which calls for an amendment to the Income Tax Act to change the it in a very minor and subtle way so that a business cannot deduct fines from its income tax. The act is currently silent on this issue, and the Supreme Court has ruled that fines, penalties and levies that are levied against a company for breaking the law can be deducted as a legitimate tax deduction. We think this is fundamentally wrong and we call for broad support for this simple amendment to the Income Tax Act.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Income Tax ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
Glengarry—Prescott—Russell Ontario
Don Boudria LiberalMinister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am extremely concerned with this bill being introduced. In fact, whether one likes or dislikes the merits is a matter to be dealt with by the committee and I want to do that. The point however that I want to make to the Chair is that this bill has as an objective to increase the level of taxation on someone.
I submit to the Chair that it be examined to see whether it offends the principle of having preceded a motion of ways and means, because it is in fact increasing a taxation measure. No matter how meritorious someone might think it is or is not, I still do not believe that it should be constitutionally acceptable to introduce a bill which does that in the manner in which it has been introduced.
Income Tax ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. House leader for the government is right. This is not the place to debate the merits of the bill. However I could make the simple point that nothing in this bill would have anyone pay more taxes. It simply would eliminate one tax deduction, which most Canadians believe is simply bad public policy. The Supreme Court said it is a matter for Parliament to decide.
Income Tax ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
The Chair thanks the House leader for the government in the House of Commons and the hon. member for Winnipeg Centre for their interventions. I will take the matter under advisement and get back to the House if necessary and as soon as possible.
Bankruptcy and Insolvency ActRoutine Proceedings
10:25 a.m.
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-253, an act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act (unpaid wages to rank first in priority in distribution)
Mr. Speaker, hopefully this bill will be a little less controversial.
The bill seeks to amend the bankruptcy act so that unpaid wages owing to an employee at the time of a bankruptcy will rank first in priority in terms of distribution of the assets of the company. The purpose is to give unpaid wages and other compensation due for benefits in a bankruptcy first priority, the logic being that other secured creditors know full well the risk of a possible bankruptcy of the company in which they are investing and compensate for that by charging interest and making profit on the loan.
In the case of an employer and employee relationship, all that exists is the trust relationship that the employee will be compensated fairly for hours worked. Therefore, it is up to Parliament to add the protection for the worker in this case, and I seek broad support from the House on that matter.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Canada Business Corporations ActRoutine Proceedings
10:30 a.m.
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-254, an act to amend the Canada Business Corporations Act
Mr. Speaker, the bill seeks to amend in a minor way the Canada Business Corporations Act. It would require auditors in their annual financial statements to a company to divulge if they are selling any other non-audit services to the same company. It would add a requirement to the auditing firm to divulge to shareholders if they are also selling other financial services and therefore possibly be in a conflict of interest.
It is a consumer issue, and that shareholders have a right to know if this practice is in fact taking place in the companies where they invest.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings
10:30 a.m.
Peter Adams Liberal Peterborough, ON
Mr. Speaker, I move that the 1st Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented on Monday, October 21, 2002, be concurred in.
(Motion agreed to)
Foreign AffairsRoutine Proceedings
10:30 a.m.
Canadian Alliance
Scott Reid Canadian Alliance Lanark—Carleton, ON
Mr. Speaker, there has been consultation among parties and I believe you would find unanimous consent to adopt the following motion without debate. I move:
That, in the opinion of this House, the Prime Minister should take advantage of his upcoming meeting with President Jiang Zemin of China at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation [APEC] conference to privately raise the issue of the continued imprisonment in China of thirteen [13] Falun Gong practitioners who have close family ties to Canada and to emphasize that Canadians would be more willing to strengthen existing ties between Canada and China if these individuals, namely: Lizhi He, Xiuzhen Lu, Tianxiong Peng, Zhanzhong Wu, Xiuchao Huang, Bo Qiu, Yueli Yang, Yangtao Jin, Jiangang Huang, Guangshou Huang, Mingli Lin, Zhou Zheng, and Changzheng Sun, were reunited with their families in Canada.


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Sharks slip past Blues for 2-1 victory
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[February 20, 2013]
(AP) -- Antti Niemi made 25 saves and Tim Kennedy scored in the third period to help the San Jose Sharks end a seven-game winless streak with a 2-1 win over the St. Louis Blues on Tuesday.
The Sharks' seven-game skid was their longest streak since a 10-game run Nov. 5-30, 2005.
Joe Thornton also scored for San Jose, which began the season with a franchise-record seven successive wins.
St. Louis has dropped five consecutive home games. The Blues also had a three-game winning streak halted. The Blues were coming off a 3-0 road trip with wins in Detroit, Calgary and Vancouver.
Kennedy scored the go-ahead goal at 13:02 on a shot from the left faceoff circle that eluded goalie Jake Allen, who had won the first three starts of his career.
St. Louis arrived home at 6:30 a.m. on Tuesday after a 14-hour travel delay in Vancouver.
Patrik Berglund scored his team-high ninth goal for St. Louis in the first period. Berglund has scored in the past four games, a career best.
Niemi improved to 7-2-3. He made 11 saves in the opening period.
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Berglund scored from in front of the net off a pass from Vladimir Sobotka at 12:54 of the opening period.
Thornton then tied the game early in the second period jumping on a rebound from close range.
San Jose, which outshot the Blues 9-5 in the third period, held St. Louis without a shot for the first 12:17 of the final period.
The Sharks were playing for the first time since Friday.
NOTES: This was the first meeting between the teams since St. Louis beat San Jose in five games in the Western Conference quarterfinals last season. ... G Jaroslav Halak is expected to start for the Blues on Wednesday in Colorado. ... The Blues arrived in St. Louis at 6:30 a.m. Tuesday morning after a 14-hour travel delay in Vancouver. ... San Jose played the fourth game of a six-game road trip. The Sharks return home Jan. 26 to face Colorado.
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He may not have been to Brighton in a while back in 1989, but Paul Heaton was now making his second visit with his new band in just three months. In December they supported Madness at the Brighton Centre and were opening their 2011 tour at the Concorde, a cracking live venue set down by the beach at the end of the quaint Volks railway, opened in 1883 and the world's oldest operating electric railroad.
The Liberals may be co-partners in Government, but it's fair to say that their endorsement of an ideological attack on the welfare state and the public sector means they are not particularly hip to sloganeer. 500,000 people on the streets of London are testament to that. Brighton, showing its true idiosyncratic nature, has nailed its colours to the mast of the Greens and Tories. Show me another small City that could do that.
Personally, my musical journey included The Clash, Two Tone, The Jam, a bit of Ska, The Kinks, Small Faces, Billy Bragg and then the Housemartins came along. The mid-late 80's were a divisive time, a time of left V right without the blurring of the political lines characterised by the Blair and Cameron eras. At that time The Smiths spoke to those who wanted to seek solace in a book or kitchen sink drama, The Housemartins gave you a more direct call to action – get up off your knees.
Politics, pop and football are worlds of contradictions, nobody said it was straightforward. Football has its roots in working class culture, strong left wing traditions, but has been blighted by associations with right wing organisations infiltrating it over the years. Left wing politics has often been seen as a humourless world, Marxist fundamentalists struggling to come to terms with the world they live in and the right-on who feel guilty about consuming a rice krispie. You have to learn to live with a few contradictions, know when to laugh, know when to have a beer and know when the time is right to throw a brick. For me the best people to articulate this world view aren't politicians, they are Joe Strummer, Ray Davies, Jerry Dammers, Graham McPherson, Billy Bragg and Paul Heaton. If you're of the Gaelic persuasion then you can throw in Shane as well.
The roots of EFW are in beer, football, pop and a bit of politics. We love the game, we love its culture and history but we prefer to tickle the underbelly rather than large it with the big boys. The underdog will always win our affections over the money men.
If you're talking politics, beer, pop and football then you'd struggle to come up with more of an engaging authority on all three than Paul Heaton. Take a listen to Acid Country and you'll hear a man singing out loud the contradictions of 21st Century British life. Under the name of the Big Society, charities, libraries and front line public services are being hacked away while big business enjoys tax breaks, big money man are allowed to fiddle their tax and the bankers who landed us in the mess continue to pick up an annual bonus cheque which would keep a local library running for years. As the title track shouts out, fight a war on greed not poverty.
I said to Danny a while ago that Paul would be a dream interview for EFW. Paul was an EFW pioneer, a man who loves his football and like us delights in the underbelly of it all. Why lord it up in corporate hospitality when you can piss up against a brick wall in an open air loo at Spotlands.
We dropped his PR a line with a link to EFW and back came the message that he liked it and was up for a chat. If you don't ask you don't get.
We met up pre-gig at the Concorde, a long way from the stadium days of the Beautiful South, but judging by his good humour, generosity and openness a place where he seemed more than comfortable.
Thanks to Kenny Cornwall I've carried the name Larry from Lancing for around 25 years. Only Ken knows why. So, on with Larry's chat with Paul Heaton:
LfL: Compared to you we're Johnny Come-Lately's in the world of European Football weekends, what first inspired you to make the trips?
PH: I'd always been a touring football fan, but only in England. Sheff Utd had been through all four divisions since I've supported them and I already had the bug of going to grounds. So if it was Mansfield away, some would say oh no not Mansfield but I'd be like, Mansfield wonder what that's like.
LfL: From my memory it wasn't very nice and we [Brighton] usually got the run around there.
PH: Yeah, well I did alright there. I had a thing for the underdog towns and cities and going around England.
We went to Milan in 1988 when we were recording the first Beautiful South album and I asked the studio if there was any chance they could get us some Milan tickets, so we went to Milan V Lecce and then I started to get tickets for myself and went to Inter V Juve whilst I was there. Then when I got home I thought I want to see the rest of Inter's season because they hadn't won the Scudetto for a long time. I hated flying so I went back to Milan by train and went to a few home games and then started going away, I went to Florence all the way by train, which took about 20 hours, then Rome away, 36 hours. Strangely enough I was keeping a journal, bit like European Football Weekends. It was more about the journey, I'd keep notes on people I'd met and took a lot of photos and kept all my tickets, this was before you could scan them and put them on a website so I just kept it all. I became fascinated with Italian football. In general before that I'd been into European football, I was really into German football in the 70's and early 80's.
LfL: Was it Keegan signing for Hamburg that sparked that off?
PH: No, no, probably from the 1974 World Cup. Me and my brother were obsessed with Gerd Muller, and although I was only 12 I didn't like the way that Motson and Barry Davies fawned over the Dutch and hated the Germans, so we liked the Germans. Then the German side of '82, I absolutely loved them and '86, Hans-Peter Briegel, I loved Stielike, I loved Klaus Fischer. I did have a period of liking the Dutch but it came later.
I didn't really like the French. I remember the 1982 semi-final where Schumacher was wrongly blamed for clattering Battison. I was living down South and everyone was supporting France, but I adored the Germans.
LfL: A bit of strange team to adore?
PH: Yeah, there weren't many fans of those German sides outside of Germany. The German side from 2006 was probably one of the most popular ones. My Dad taught me to like European football. He was a big fan of European football and loved the different styles of play. He educated me and talked about the European way, so it made sense for me to go into Europe and watch a bit of football.
LfL: You mentioned going to places like Mansfield, where else did you go to in your early days travelling around?
PH: I went to the Den for Millwall V Chelsea in 1976 when Millwall beat them 3-0. That was one of the roughest matches I've ever been to; I was only 15 or 16. Chelsea were top of the league and Millwall beat them. There was alot of trouble around that time and the likes of Jimmy Hill were banging on about seating being the answer. At Millwall, opposite the Dock side were the seats and that's were Ginger and Tiny used to sit. Everyone used to go on about Harry Mad Dog and all that but the real hooligans in those days were 50 year old blokes in the seats. When Chelsea turned up, the whole ground, not just one end, turned and converged on the Chelsea fans. It was just all out war, I think a police horse got stabbed in the eye that day. Millwall fans were rolling ball bearings under the Police horses. That was carnage. But I went along because I was wondering what it would be like.
LfL: I don't think it took too much imagination to work out what it would be like?
PH: No, exactly. I went with some mates from school and we knew what would probably happen. You had 20,000 people from Bermondsey after anyone with a slightly metropolitan West End accent. West Ham used to be naughty; places like Middlesbrough and Sunderland in the 70's were bad. It could often be a geographical thing, Sunderland was a long walk from the station and so was Tottenham. It depends on the time, I've spoken to people and they've had trouble in places I haven't, so it really depends on what you're left to get up to and the circumstances.
LfL: You said a while ago that when you first started going to football you were a bit of a scruff, but then your casual jackets became synonymous with you. How did the terrace style influence you?
PH: It's quite a while since I was a real scruff. It is a bit of a fashion show when we go to Sheff Utd. You'd always look out for new jeans, jackets and trainers, so yeah the terraces are a bit of an influence.
LfL: Do you still collect the Panini stickers?
PH: Yeah. Every World Cup and Euro's.
LfL: What about Match Attax? They're not right are they?
PH: No, no, not at all. I don't do those. I really panicked in 2010 when my newsagent Ali said "I don't think we're going to have Panini stickers this year." I couldn't believe it, what do you mean no Paninis. He said he was doing Match Attax, so I bought the Match Attax book and some packs of the cards. They were awful. I said to him I can't collect these, they don't tell you were the player was born or anything like that.
LfL: They're not even stickers so you can't stick them in.
PH: No you can't. Anyway a week later he rung me up, "Paul the Panini's have arrived." So I took the Match Attax back and said you can have them back, fu*k them.
LfL: Do you manage to finish the book, or do you have to send off for the last 5?
PH: Yeah, I send off for the last 26 or whatever.
LfL: Here's a Beautiful South question, who would be your perfect 10?
PH: There's many isn't there, many. There's Tony Currie, Maradona, Platini, Prosinecki. Of those I'd say Platini.
LfL: Platini over Tony Currie?
PH: Platini managed a slightly higher standard. Tony Currie only got 15 or 16 caps for England. When Platini played he wasn't playing in a great French side. I'm trying to think of who else, oh yeah, Liam Brady replaced Platini at Juventus and wore the number 10 shirt. He was one hell of a player and under rated. For an Irishman at that time to play three seasons at Juventus was incredible.
LfL: He became an Albion legend did Liam, I think he still lives locally. Just as things were getting shitty for us he stood up to the toe rags who were running us down and played a big part in rescuing the club.
PH: That's good to hear, I'll tell you what I'll go for Liam as the perfect 10.
LfL: Are you still collecting football shirts?
PH: I try not to because they are at my ex's house. She's got them down in her cellar and so I try not to add to them, I've got hundreds. The National Football museum's moving to Manchester from Preston and I'm thinking of donating the whole collection. It's a collection of more than just shirts, so I might lend them to the museum.
LfL: Are you still anti-retro shirts?
PH: Well, I do have the odd one. I've got a Melchester Rovers retro shirt. To me, there was a period in football, maybe from 1990 on, when middle class people started going to football. I don't mean there weren't middle class people into football before then, my Dad was middle class, but there was definitely a point when people started jumping on the band wagon.
LfL: So, post-Nick Hornby and Italia 90?
PH: Yeah, post Italia 90 and what happened is they saw that this could be a game that they could enjoy and because they knew nothing about the game and nothing of the history of the game what they would do is go out and buy a retro shirt so they could join in the conversation. It's only people who don't know anything about the game who go and wear a retro shirt. They're saying, actually I've been about here too and I've got a retro shirt, you don't need to wear a retro shirt and in fact wearing a shirt to the pub to watch a game is a bit daft.
LfL: My big problem with them is that they don't carry the original insignia and logos. My favourite Brighton shirt is our Bukta shirt from the late 70's, but without the Bukta logo on the long sleeves and on the shirt it's just a blue & white shirt. Similarly with our adidas kit from '82, without the big adidas logo it's just a blue shirt with a Seagull badge. It's a repro, not a retro.
PH: Yeah, if it hadn't been middle class people buying it what they would have called it is a dodgy shirt from the market, it's something you'd get on some dodgy little stall. But because it's them it's retro. It's the Frank Skinner attitude towards football, I remember seeing his programme and he was saying "I want to do keepie-uppies" and I was thinking why the fu*k would you need that in football. You need ball control, you need ball skill but you don't need to behave like a clown on the football field that's the last thing a footballer wants to show in his armory.
LfL: You do that in a game and you know the first thing an opponent is going to try and do is kick you.
PH: Exactly, I think people like that wanted to learn a back heel before they could push the ball forward.
LfL: Do you think Hull would have beaten London 4-0?
PH: Well, they did didn't they.
LfL: So it all came true.
PH: It did, their first four matches against London sides they won everyone, finishing with West Ham. So after that it was all over the Hull Daily Mail. It was big news, I did loads of interviews. They beat Arsenal, Tottenham and then someone else and it was the West Ham game to make it Hull 4 London 0.
LfL: Do you have a soft spot for Hull?
PH: Strangely enough, no not really. I think I would have if they were still down there, when I moved to Hull they were down in the 4th Division and they were one of Sheff Utd's main rivals a bit like Leeds, they hated us and we hated them. Then they got bigger than us and obviously with growing and this is no fault of the existing fans, a whole new fan base emerged and they were getting massive crowds for them. I don't have any sympathy with their supporters, my experience of them is that they can be a bit racist.
LfL: I can remember going there back in the 80's and they probably had crowds of around 3-4,000.
PH: It's just one of those things. What happened in Hull was we sold off our tele-communications system which was always council owned, separate to BT so we had our own white phone boxes, we sold that on the stock market and the council became the richest council in the country and they built the KC Stadium, they built another stadium for Hull KR, and it resulted in a lot of success which was great. It's not really a football town though, it's a rugby town.
LfL: Was Norman [Cook] into football back in the Housemartin days?
PH: A little bit, he could sort of kick a ball and could play ok. He hadn't played football all his life like I had, but he was into football. He used to come and watch Sheff Utd with me sometimes and as a student he used to go to Brighton. Obviously now he's more into it but I think with Norman he sees it as a good thing to be part of Brighton and to support them.
LfL: To be honest, without his support I'm not sure we would have survived.
PH: It's very important to him. I think Norman saw my passion for Sheffield United, and though he didn't have that passion at the time, he developed it and thought I'm going to do something for my team.
LfL: The whole SKINT sponsorship brought us good publicity and raised our profile at a time when we came back to Brighton. So if you see him pass on my thanks for everything he's done for us, he kept us going.
PH: Yeah will do, he might be here tonight.
LfL: On behalf of all Brighton fans good luck to Sheff Utd in staying up, we've a soft spot for Micky and hopefully if you stay up you'll send Palace down.
PH: I think Palace might stay up, sorry. My hope is that we take Middlesbrough down. I don't like Middlesbrough; I don't like them because everyone who puts on that red and white shirt suddenly becomes grim. I've got some mates who are Middlesbrough fans and as a place it's ok, but the club, nah. I think we're going down unless Warnock hands us a lifeline on Monday night, which I think he might do.
LfL: How has Micky Adams gone down with Sheff U fans?
PH: Not very well. He's won two matches against Forest and Leeds. He's someone who is trying to inspire them and they are not a skilful side, we've lost a lot of players, sold a lot of players, not his fault but he's trying to inspire them for these games, making every game a big game. They really performed for Forest at home and Leeds at home, the crowd lifted them but to lift them for Norwich away is difficult. I don't think the crowd blame Adams and I certainly don't. I think we should go down, hang on to Micky and give him a chance.
LfL: So a local derby next year then?
PH: Well, if the piggies don't go down, they are sliding.
LfL: It's gone wrong since Mandaric took over.
PH: Yeah, that and giving the manager's job to someone who is a club man, like Adams is a Sheff Utd fan, Megson's a piggy. I was arguing against appointing Adams, I'm not against him now he's in charge but it doesn't follow that passion gets you places. Look at Poyet, Poyet might instil a bit of passion but it's mainly thought process and tactical nous.
LfL: Poyet has changed the club, it's been root and branch. The way we play, the scouting system, the training, the football philosophy. It took a while to get used to it, last year when we were 1 down with ten minutes to go people would shout "hoof it up there", but he stuck to his guns and beliefs and turned players who were happy to belt the ball hopelessly into thinking footballers with no little skill.
PH: That's good. I think he had to do this at a club of Brighton's size. I don't think there is the patience at a bigger club. If you take over at a bigger club sometimes the systemic damage is that bad, even at Sheff Utd, I'm not saying we're a much bigger club than you, but the whole system is built around getting players and selling them. There's no other country where it works like that.
LfL: Do you still play in those charity football matches?
PH: I use to play in a lot of them. Before the Robbie Williams era, there used be good players, some of the kids off Eastenders were good, though I'm not talking about Nick Berry. At the time I was a pretty good player, but I wouldn't play now as I want people to remember me as I was. Do you want a beer?
LfL: Yeah, I'd love one cheers.
PH: I'll have one as well. We're all Blades aren't we. (Paul's tour manager arrived at this point, another Blade who thinks everyone else is a Blade.) He's a Seagull Blade this one.
LfL: Did you go to the Brighton game at Bramall Lane, it was the 5-4 in 1989?
PH: Did we fu*k, we were in the pub watching it on teletext. What about the one with the fight, when was that? I've still got pictures of me on the pitch, must have been 84-85.
LfL: That was the only time I've seen someone armed with a corner flag. It was the same day as the Bradford fire. Sheff U always bring a few down, even to Withdean. Shame you might miss out on the new ground.
PH: It kicked off at the station after; it was quite a big do. At Sheff U we've got these shirts with photos of us on the pitch, I'll have to send them to you. Brighton absolutely battered us against the fences, Brighton chased us so far until there was no Brighton left, then we chased them, it was just going to and fro. I stepped off the pitch and sat in the stand and just watched it. There were hardly any Police there.
LfL: We can't' wait for the new ground. Sometimes fans are reluctant to move but we've waited 15 years for this, including two years at Gillingham.
PH: Were you at Gillingham, oh yeah of course you were. He's good isn't he Poyet, he comes across so well, as do many of the foreign managers. I went past the stadium, in fact I was at a wedding last summer and I walked down the Lewes road and I walked past the university. We walked about six miles, it was a lovely Brighton evening, the weather down is here lovely, even on a day like this. You've got the Fiorentina half circle haven't you.
LfL: How did you get the Football Italia gig with James Richardson?
PH: They just asked me, I was writing a column for Shoot! about Italian football.
LfL: I miss Shoot!
PH: Yeah, it was good wasn't it. I knew my Italian football, in fact it was when Channel 4 started showing it that I stopped going. That wasn't me saying I'm too hip, it was just if it's on in the pub on a Sunday then I don't need to go. And the Saturday morning programme was very good, I thought James Richardson was brilliant.
LfL: A whole generation suddenly knew all about Gazzetta Dello Sport and that was down to James Richardson.
PH: He was nice and Paul Elliot was nice. Do you remember Elvis Costello going on there? I remember James Richardson saying it's a good year for the Rosaneri.
LfL: Talking of Elvis, do you see yourself following a similar route musically, some of the new stuff is a bit more country.
PH: And a bit more shit. Well, not shit but less popular.
LfL: I thought Acid Country was a bloody good album, I listened to it while I was painting the outside of my house and time flew by.
PH: Yeah, it was alright. I think the next album I'm going to do is going to be different. I've got this song called the Eighth which is fu*king like 50 minutes long, but the next album is going to be short and pithy, punky.
LfL: Are you still struggling to get airplay for your stuff?
PH: It's quite difficult to talk about it without it coming across as being moaning. I'm not too worried. I'm able because of my PRS from my previous hits to cross-collaterise, there's a good word for you, fund this habit with my old habit.
LfL: You've started playing a few Housemartin tracks live as well.
PH: We're doing Get up off our Knees tonight. Just doing three.
LfL: Are you still doing White Man in Hammersmith Palais?
PH: We tried to change it, we were going to drop it, but it's become quite a staple of the set really.
LfL: What was it like supporting Madness last year?
PH: It was alright, they were nice. They are quite divided, they don't talk too much and don't really socialise. Well, Carl and Suggs do as you can probably see on stage, but the drummer has his own dressing room . On the tour though we were sort of shuffled into toilets and didn't have anywhere to get dressed. On this tour I've asked that we have shared dressing rooms, shared beer, treat everyone well.
I'll send you some photos in relation to what I've been talking about; it will save me scanning them. I'll send you a packet of photos from when I went to Roma and Inter and you can put those on the site.
LfL: Are you ok to sign a few bits and bobs, there's a greatest hits CD and the new album.
PH: No problem. They're after putting another fu*king compilation out. I had nothing to do with the last ones, I said to Sean the bassist, if you want to make it more legitimate then give it a tasteful cover, which he did. Then there's Beautiful South at the BBC compilation, it's just constant but I can't stop them doing it.
LfL: Are the rest of the Beautiful South still touring?
PH: I don't know, I think they're still arguing about it. Having never had an argument in 19 years, well only over politics, it's funny to see them now.
LfL: Thanks for your time Paul. Good luck tonight and thanks for 25 years of cracking tunes, great lyrics and an opinion worth listening to.
PH: Ta, I'm doing another cycle tour next year and Atilla has lined up a pub in Shoreham so I'll be back next year. Hope you enjoy it tonight and see you next time.
Well, what a top man. I left Paul and went back into town to meet an old mate Brooksie for a few more beers and a catch up. Brooksie takes the prize as the tallest ever wicket keeper to play in the West Sussex Cricket League, we both played for Shoreham and at six feet six and a bit he sometimes struggled to get down for the low throws. He was more useful as a keeper for various clubs in Shoreham.
Following a few in the Fiddlers Elbow, seaside fish and chips and a bizarre half hour with men with Chihuahua's on their laps in one of the more colourful seafront bars we wound up back at the Concorde for the gig.
The set was a mix of tracks from the last two albums and some old favourites. Paul's last two solo albums are well worth a listen, I fell off the Beautiful South wagon about three LPs in, but after hearing Mermaids and Slaves I bought the Cross Eyed Rambler and loved it and Acid Country is even better. In amongst the new tunes were a smattering of Housemartins numbers, Me and the Farmer sounding as good as ever. The cover version of White Man in Hammersmith Palais has been souped up since I heard them play it in December and some good banter kept a smallish crowd well entertained.
It's strange that someone who was selling out Wembley a few years ago can only pull in 350 to a gig in Brighton. I remember seeing Paul Weller at the Zap club in Brighton just as he was starting out as a solo artist, post Style Council. There were probably only 400 or so there that night and he has gone on to re-establish himself. I'd say Heaton's music now is as good as it's been for a while and he certainly deserves a bigger audience, given airplay I'm sure he'd get it.
Paul's a friend of EFW, so the least you can do is have a listen. You won't hear his new single on the radio as the playlists these days are a shambles and with Sheff U probably going down you can cheer him up by buying Acid Country. Apparently Woolies have gone bust, I couldn't find an Our Price and Virgin fly planes and don't sell records – don't worry though you can get it by clicking on the artwork below.


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Thursday, March 22, 2012
Posted by John Wells at 8:44 PM
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4 comments:
- remmij said...
Study Butte, Darwin - twins of sorts, from different mothers? at least you are beyond dial-up... & not in CA..
Interesting set of pics...
nice frames - mesh/screen/perf. plate or glazing?
- March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM
- D. B. Day IV said...
The Field Lab Olympic Squares
- March 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM
- remmij said...
... speaking of metal & wood, thought you might be interested in this. A light year or two away from the Tiny House idea, but there are threads of commonality.... I see your design approach, craftsmanship and "visual eye" linked to this structure. Wonder if they have a Grub Shack in CT.?
crossed paths with Daniel about 32 years ago when he was teaching - this is his first dwelling...
more pics:
CT metal&wood
- March 23, 2012 at 10:00 AM
- Allen Hare said...
Strong squares. Looking forward to seeing them in place.
- March 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM
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Get new populations into your club
Broadening your demographic reach and making your club attractive to different populations is a challenge. But in this day and age, it is something no club can afford not to do. Here's what experts think you should be doing to pinpoint-and attract-specific populations:
* Survey the area around your club. A simple questionnaire can tell you lots about markets you may be missing. Just remember that surveys take time and money.
"It's expensive to survey," acknowledges Mike Connors, of Optimal Fitness Systems International, in Longmeadow, Mass.
If you send 1,000 to 5,000 postcards, you're going to get back a very small percentage. "People hate filling out surveys," Connors says. Because of this, he advises asking a few quick questions: Are you exercising currently? Are you exercising at a club? What type of exercise are you doing? If you're not exercising, are you interested? What types of programs interest you? Though your response rate may not be high, you may glean enough information to go on.
* Commission demographic research. "You don't want to go to a chamber of commerce," says Connors. "While you may get decent information, it may be skewed a little." Specifically, chambers of commerce like to report good news about their communities.
An independent report that gives you the basics on income, age, gender, and maybe drive times of people living within, say, a 5-to-7-mile range of your facility costs, on average, $75 to $85. For a more detailed breakdown of how much money people spend on things such as sporting goods, expect to pay up to $300. "It helps to look at these statistics if your preliminary research raises a red flag," says Connors. With this information in hand, you can confidently zero in on a market.
* Use demographic information to establish the type of club you need to be. This doesn't refer to whether you should be fitness-only or multipurpose, but rather to whether you have the core programs, energy, design and environment that is going to suit your market, notes Connors. For example, if you play hardcore music all the time, you're not going to attract older adults. "If you can create the right energy and environment, you can target a bigger percentage of your population," says Connors.
Don't stop there: Be flexible. Slightly alter your environment (for example, play jazz instead of rap) to accommodate the different markets that come in during the day. "This will make you more versatile and open up your club to a majority of the population," says Connors.
* Offer trial memberships. If you're hoping to target seniors, for example, buy a membership list of people in your area over a certain age. Distribute flyers and passes to them. Do a direct mail campaign. If your targeted market responds, make this population feel comfortable in your facility. "By giving trial memberships, you get people into your facility to see if it will be a fit," says Connors.
* Train staff to deal with the new market you're targeting. "A lot of staffers have basic certification, but really don't know much about special populations," says Mirabai Holland, president of Mirabai Holland International Inc., in Ridgefield, N.J. Staff needs to know, for example, that an older adult may need a longer warm-up and cooldown. Also, kids comprise a very big market. But often, says Holland, a successful kids' program will flounder for lack of good teachers. "Teachers are a catalyst to keep the kids coming back," she explains. "To pull it all together, you have to have the right ingredients in place and you have to keep them."
* Develop relationships with target groups in the community. Are there retirement communities nearby? Are there schools where you could have after-school programs? Are there hospitals whose patients may be able to use a health and fitness facility during their rehab?
* Listen to your members. You may discover that the kind of club you were yesterday may not be the club you should be tomorrow. According to Holland, one club positioned itself as a singles' club and was successful at it. But in listening to members, management found out that as singles married, their needs changed. "All of a sudden, there was this burgeoning children's population," says Holland. "The club management realized it had to grow their membership."
* Make your facility attractive to your intended market. If you're hoping to bring in more seniors, you may need to run a special van for transporting them. If you're aiming to attract special-needs populations, establish relationships with medical experts, such as nurses, dietitians, physical therapists and doctors.
Five Target Markets to Consider
Seniors. "This market is going to become more mainstream in a few years," says Mirabai Holland, president of Mirabai Holland International Inc.
But tomorrow's seniors are going to be unique. "They will be baby boomers, a group that has reinvented itself every step of the way," says Holland. Programming for these groups is going to have to be "more hip" than traditional senior programming has been.
Women. While not an underserved population, midlife women have special needs that many clubs aren't addressing, says Holland. As women in their 40s and 50s start to confront and become aware of issues such as menopause, osteoporosis, heart disease and arthritis, clubs need to respond with special classes and seminars. Staffers need to be aware of practical issues. For example, a woman in her 40s or 50s may need a fan overhead during an aerobics class because she may be experiencing hot flashes.
The Overweight. "This is a hard market to capture because overweight people may have barriers to exercise psychologically and physically," says Holland. "You may have the best program in the world, but you need a pathway to it." Example: seminars about nutrition and exercise and how they work together. "An overweight person can't go into a mainstream exercise program," says Holland. "The class has to be something she feels positive about when she finishes."
Special-needs Population. As people grow older, they will need programs that address problems such as arthritis, osteoporosis and heart disease. But these programs need a medical stamp so that people feel safe participating in them.
Kids. Youngsters can provide a club with steady revenue streams. "You need someone who is kid-friendly to run the programs-who has experience with kids, a bachelor's degree in education and who is knowledgeable about the cognitive and physiological abilities of kids," says Holland. Environment also matters: "You need to have a room that's kid-friendly, that's colorful and looks like it's going to be fun," says Holland.


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Back in June at New York's Beacon Theatre, The Monkees, sans Michael Nesmith, were nearing the end of a trippy jaunt down a winding memory lane, when the spotlight shined on Davy Jones, who, with a few softly sung notes, confirmed the enduring belief in a group that started as a daydream.
"Oh, I could hide, beneath the wings, of the bluebird as she sings," Jones sang. The opening strains of "Daydream Believer," brought the crowd to its feet, spurring tears and teenage-like screams from countless middle-aged women transported back nearly 45 years to something that wasn't quite Beatlemania, but an incredible simulation all its own.
Jones, just a tad stout, looked for a few moments once again very much the boyish 20-year-old who was the cute one – and the English one – in the boy band that began as a TV knockoff of the Beatles, but became very different kind of phenomenon.
His sudden death Wednesday at age 66 seems impossibly at odds with the vibrant performance he gave that night – one from a lifetime of shows by an entertainer destined to be remembered as forever young.
Jones honed his abilities as a crowd pleaser from boyhood. He performed with the cast of "Oliver!" on "The Ed Sullivan Show" the same night as the Beatles made their live American TV debut in 1964. Within two years, he was teamed with Nesmith, Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork after passing auditions for a musical comedy show – a kind of TV version of "A Hard Day's Night" built around a rock band that lived together and played together in a funky California house. Even with his modest frame, the onetime jockey stood out as the heartthrob with the sweet voice to match his looks.
The Monkees carved out a unique place in TV comedy, performing antic slapstick- and farce-driven humor brimming with innocence, but infused with just enough vague references to the psychedelic drug culture of the time to let us know they were in on the joke. The group benefitted from top studio musicians playing songs churned out by top songwriters like the Boyce and Hart team, Neil Diamond, and John Stewart, who gave Jones his best remembered tune, "Daydream Believer."
To their credit, The Monkees pushed back, and began writing their own songs and playing their own instruments as their fame exploded, seemingly out of control. Their final major project together, the 1968 movie "Head," written by Bob Rafelson and Jack Nicholson, proved an image-breaking loopily surreal outing, which, in its occasional moments of clarity, made a statement on the pressures of instant celebrity.
In the years to come, Jones would mellow and accept his place in showbiz history. His most famous post-Monkees moment, after all, came 40 years ago in a cameo on "The Brady Bunch." There were occasional reunions over the last couple decades, usually without Nesmith. Jones, Tork and Dolenz would play their hits – along with a generous helping of the music they wrote – for original and latter-day fans, just as they did on that night at the Beacon during what would be their final tour.
Give Jones and his band mates their due for going well beyond their start as hired Beatle stand-ins and creating a distinct joy as real as the sadness felt Wednesday by daydream believers everywhere.
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Today qualified young immigrants can begin applying for permits to avoid deportation.
Federally subsidized programs on Mitt Romney's fiscal hit list: Amtrak, PBS, arts, humanities.
Democratic voter registration is down in eight key "battleground" states with an uptick in registered independents.
Meanwhile, frays over voter registration issues heat up in key "battleground" states, including Florida, Iowa, Pennsylvania and New Mexico.
Two maps that track the impact of drought across the U.S.
Dusty Pop Art collection in Iran permitted to see the light of day.
Ailing Russian Kalishnikov factory buoyed by U.S. gun buyers.
Univision calls for inclusion of Latino perspectives in presidential debates.
Visine poisoning > diarrhea = jail.
Staying out of the woods because Aunt Flo is visiting and you're scared of getting mauled by a bear? Fear no more, says National Park Service.
Corrales votes down gun restrictions.
Horse slaughter plant plans nixed.
New Mexico trucking company tries to avoid workers comp payments, gets called out by Tennessee high court.


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The return of running back Steven Jackson is just what the doctor ordered for the St. Louis Rams.
St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson has been out of action since suffering a groin tear after rushing for 115 yards on 30 carries Sept. 23 at Tampa Bay.
But he was expected to return for the Rams' home game against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, and it couldn't come at a better time for the punchless, winless club.
Just how badly has Jackson been missed by the reeling Rams?
"You guys all know what he adds to the table for us," embattled second-year Rams coach Scott Linehan said early in the week. "It gives us an explosive player on the field who can affect the game in a positive way with his ability to run the ball and catch it out of the backfield and his leadership."
All three of those aspects have been sorely missed in recent weeks. But leadership may be the thing that's lacking most with this Rams offense, which needs someone — anyone — to step forward and take charge.
Even a semi-healthy Jackson might be able to lead by example.
"My feeling is it's (Jackson's health) not 100 percent, but it's close enough where it looked like he had the burst he needs to have," Linehan said after watching his marquee back practice.
On Thursday, the day after Jackson's first full practice in about four weeks, he said he felt fine. But Jackson cautioned he won't know how healthy he really is — or how effective — until he tests himself in a real game.
Rams riddle
The Rams have failed to score a touchdown in each of their last two games. When was the last time the Rams played back-to-back games without scoring a touchdown? Answer below.
Happier days
The last time the Rams and Browns met was on Dec. 8, 2003, at Cleveland Browns Stadium. The Rams beat the Browns 26-20, improving their record to 10-3 to clinch an NFC playoff berth.
Rams running back Marshall Faulk rushed 24 times for 102 yards for his fourth consecutive 100-yard rushing game. Kicker Jeff Wilkins made three of four field goals, placing him first on the Rams' list for most field goals in one season (33).
And safety Aeneas Williams had two interceptions, returning one 46 yards for a score to tie Ken Houston for second place on the NFL's all-time list of interceptions returned for touchdowns.
Tough road
Incredibly, the Rams have not scored an offensive touchdown on the road this season. In four away games, they have been outscored by a whopping 114-19.
Just in passing
Through seven games, the Rams have not scored a touchdown on the ground. All five of their offensive touchdowns this season have come through the air, with Torry Holt hauling in three of them.
Rams newcomers Drew Bennett and Randy McMichael caught the other two.
Replacement player
The Rams have signed street free agent Rob Petitti, an offensive tackle and former Dallas Cowboys draft selection, to fill the roster spot created when they released problem-plagued Claude Terrell earlier in the week.
The 6-foot-6, 327-pound Petitti started all 16 games for Dallas in 2005 and played every offensive snap as a rookie. He was claimed by New Orleans off waivers prior to the start of the 2006 regular season but appeared in only one game for the Saints last year.
Pro Bowl punter?
Donnie Jones has posted Pro Bowl punting numbers so far this season. He is first in the NFC and second in the NFL with a 50.5 punting average, and he is second in the NFC, third in the NFL, with his 42.1 net punting average. Jones trails only Denver's Todd Sauerbrun in punting average, by less than a yard, but has more than twice as many punts as Sauerbrun.
At Seattle, Jones punted six times for a 52.3-yard average and boomed a career long of 80 yards — the third-longest punt in Rams history and longest in the NFL this season. It surpassed his then-career long of 66 yards he set during Week 4 at Dallas.
Against Arizona in Week 5, Jones punted four times for a 56.0 average with a long of 60 yards. His 56.0-yard gross average was the best single-game average in franchise history, surpassing Jack Jacobs' 55.8-average at Detroit on Sept. 27, 1942.
Riddle result
The last time the Rams played back-to-back games without scoring a touchdown was Nov. 4 and Nov. 11, 1962, when they lost 12-3 to the Detroit Lions and 14-2 to the Baltimore Colts.
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Call this yet another extension of smart power. In recent confirmation hearings, we've found that Barack Obama appointments for ambassador posts have no knowledge of the government with which they'll interact, no clue as to the strategic interests in play for the US with the assignment (a description that applies to two appointments, as we'll see), and finally have never bothered to actually visit the country to which he'd be posted. It's as if Barack Obama desires to confirm the old saw that Americans have little curiosity about what extends beyond our two oceans.
In today's Washington Post, former Clinton diplomatic adviser Henri Barkley, now a professor of international relations at Lehigh, blasts the White House for its riches of embarrassment in recent appointments. Barkley accuses the Obama administration of selling offices, and warns of the dangers in sending out incompetents in important diplomatic posts:
The Obama administration's appointments suggest that the president isn't being honest when he says that diplomacy is important to him. Yet the administration clearly values diplomacy — officials, including the president, have emphasized that the ongoing negotiations with Iran are the way to resolve the nuclear impasse. Would Obama consider making Tsunis our negotiator? Of course not. Yet it's illogical, and insulting, to presume that Norwegians are such wonderful and civilized people — and hence unlikely to cause any problems with Washington — that we can afford to send someone on a taxpayer-funded three-year junket to enjoy the fjords.
Even the argument that Norway is an unproblematic post for a political appointee does not pass muster. Obama's ambassador-designate to Hungary, Colleen Bradley Bell, is a television soap opera producer ("The Bold and the Beautiful") and also was a money-handler for the president's reelection campaign. What qualifications does she have to be ambassador to a country in crisis? Hungary's democratic institutions are under severe threat from the governing party, and extremists have been targeting minorities. Hungary is a member of both NATO and the European Union. Unfortunately, when asked by Sen. John McCain, Bell was incapable of identifying the U.S. strategic interests in Hungary. …
Unfortunately, some current nominees are a modern version of the 18th-century French practice of the sale of offices. Then, the income derived went to finance state activities; now, it is for financing campaigns.
Both Democrats and Republicans reward those who helped their campaigns. But for a president who just told the nation of his commitment to reducing inequality, this practice of rewarding unqualified people, whose "good deed" is to have bundled campaign funds, is particularly jarring.
Barkley isn't the only one noticing, either. James Bruno lists the recent appointments for Politico and comes up with big cash totals, too:
The resumé imbalance, of course, owes to a simple fact: The United States is the only industrialized country to award diplomatic posts as political spoils, often to wealthy campaign contributors in an outmoded system that rivals the patronage practices of banana republics, dictatorships and two-bit monarchies. A similar system once allowed political allies to become military officers, but Congress outlawed the practice after the Civil War, during which the public recoiled at the needless slaughter brought on by incompetent cronies who had been appointed generals (men like Daniel Sickles, whose insubordination at Gettysburg caused more than 4,000 Union casualties). Representing the United States in a foreign capital, however, is a privilege still available to any moneyed dolt with party connections.
And President Obama—who entered office promising to limit the practice and instead appoint more Foreign Service professionals to ambassadorial positions—has arguably done more to exacerbate the problem than his recent predecessors. His second-term appointments have gone to political allies more than half of the time. Since World War II, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, that number has been lower: About a third of the ambassador posts have been offered to non-professional diplomats.
The reason a hotelier and a television producer, for instance, might be appealing choices is blindingly obvious: money. Bell raised $2,101,635 for President Obama's re-election efforts. Tsunis, who flipped his affiliation from Republican to Democrat in 2009, embraced his new party with gusto, raising $988,550 for the president's 2012 bid.
Among the ambassadors serving in 10 of the choicest cities in Europe and the Caribbean, the average amount raised per posting in the last election was $1.79 million, according to the Guardian newspaper. And the cost for a plush post in a city like Rome, Paris, Stockholm or Canberra seems to be going up. The Guardian reported that appointees to these embassies raised a total of $5 million in 2012, up from $3.3 million in 2008, $1.3 million in 2004 and $800,000 in 2000.
Maybe the US Senate could step in and force Obama to stop appointing fundraising hacks to represent America abroad. They had the chance with Max Baucus, a former member of the club who claimed to have no knowledge of the strategic implications of the air-defense zone claims of China, where Baucus was appointed as Ambassador. The Senate confirmed Baucus yesterday to that post … in a vote of 96-0.
Smart power is apparently contagious.


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Do you know where the newest and shiniest books are kept in your local library? If not, ask a staff member to show you the way! Most branches have a "new book" shelf where you can find these and other fresh, fantastic books for kids:
Picture Books
Pete the Cat and His Four Groovy Buttons / written by Eric Litwin; created and illustrated by James Dean
H.O.R.S.E.: A Game of Basketball and Imagination / Christopher Myers
A Kiss Means I Love You / by Kathryn Allen; photographs by Eric Futran
Early Readers and Moving Up
Rabbit & Robot : The Sleepover / Cece Bell
Penny and Her Doll / Kevin Henkes
Lulu and the Duck in the Park / by Hilary McKay; illustrated by Priscilla Lamont
Earwig and the Witch / Diana Wynne Jones; illustrated by Paul O. Zelinsky
Horten's Miraculous Mechanisms: Magic, Mystery & a Very Strange Adventure / by Lissa Evans
Starry River of the Sky / Grace Lin
Who Could That Be at This Hour? / Lemony Snicket; art by Seth
Nanny Piggins and the Wicked Plan / by R.A. Spratt; illustrated by Dan Santat
Who Says Women Can't Be Doctors?: The Story of Elizabeth Blackwell / Tanya Lee Stone; illustrated by Marjorie Priceman
Island: A Story of the Galápagos / Jason Chin
How Many Jelly Beans? / by Andrea Menotti; illustrated by Yancey Labat
Moonbird: A Year on the Wind with the Great Survivor B95 / Phillip Hoose
Graphic Novels
Drama / Raina Telgemeier; with color by Gurihiru
A Trip to the Bottom of the World with Mouse: A Toon Book / by Frank Viva
Madeleine L'Engle's A Wrinkle in Time: The Graphic Novel / adapted and illustrated by Hope Larson


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Sorry femitomobi, I don't agree with your idea purely from a market perspective.
I seriously doubt that more than 1 or 2 percent of the S car's (current) total marketplace are people who do not own their own home or condo.
This might change once the product has matured for a few years, but I doubt it would change much...just my opinion.
I'll not comment about the science behind your idea as I'm not qualified to do so.
I'm not sure that you're grasping my point.
I highly doubt that TM would alter their corporate philosophy of "electric only" to accomodate a few prospects who will have a "where can I charge issue".
As the overwhelming majority of S car prospects(like all upscale vehicle prospects) own their own homes / condos, a major refit of the S car to accomodate a tiny segment of their marketplace seems unlikely.
As the EV market matures, more public charging stations will appear...I'm sure apartment complexs will have to address this issue as well.
I'm sure others here can offer opinions about the science of the fuel cell's suitability for the S car.
Fuel cells are inefficient and highly expensive. You can do that type of foolishness after market on your own.
Most Condos and Apartment complexes have garages that you can rent for a little extra (of set by the price of fuel/electricity).
If yours doesn't you have 2 years to find a complex/condo that does have a place to charge.
I read on their website that the Bloombox is the size of a refrigerator and that it uses natural gas ... "even solar". Why or how would a fuel cell use solar? But at the least you would need a fuel supply, which gives off CO2. It is not "no emmission". It is also $800K.
Would it be easier to put a streetside charger (or plug) inside a locked box? All you would have to do is make sure your neighbors don't block your access, but in DC, that might be a problem. All the condos and apartments that I see around my area have designated parking, so I don't think you can say that ALL city dwellers would be out of the running for a Model S. I still hold that you should simply move to where you can park your car in a designated spot, and run your outlet or charger to that. If it is not important enough to you to do that, then you don't want a Model S anyway. Apartment owners may balk to do much, though, as apartment dwellers are just a little above transients, and a house and garage say something about being there long enough to pay for a charger at your space.


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VIRGINIA BEACH, VA — Helping fitness professionals work better with sailors getting ready for deployment was the focus of a Navy Advanced Fitness Training in late August at Dam Neck Naval Base. Eighteen fitness professionals attended the training, which focused on exercise safety, a review of supplementation, and a demonstration of warm-up and cool-down exercises.
The training is important because many sailors think they can't work out while in a confined space, such as on a ship, says Marc Meeker, program manager of Navy Fitness, who instructed the class.


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From Denny: So much for the cyberattack no one is talking about - yet. Yesterday all communications were down for several hours: internet, cable, TV, cell and even the old school land line here in Louisiana. Yeah, those all powerful NSA gremlins are ever so good at handling cyberattacks - not.
The past two NSA Directors wasted years of development focused upon Stupid - mainly watching and annoying other Americans and American journalists, instead of preparing to defend against cyberattacks from America's real enemies: Russia, China, North Korea and Iran.
Of course, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea are terribly pleased with themselves, believing they accomplished a great feat. Yet, yesterday's attack that caused parts of the U. S. to just shut down for hours anything not essential (read that as people like me) really didn't do much more than annoy the U. S. like a chomping mosquito on your butt.
The reality is that Russia, China, NK and Iran all taxed their resources to bring about that cyberattack. And for what? To register their usual petulance they are not respected and feared as The Great Leaders of the World? Seriously? These countries' leaders spend far too much time watching porn and reading fantasy comic books that they don't realize just how ridiculous they are perceived by the rest of the world.
What should be our response? Counter cyberattacks? Sure, we can do that too. But the reckless behavior of Russia, China, NK and Iran all point to something deeper and darker that must be addressed. If these countries are this annoying while sanctions exist against them, how much worse are they going to become if we are willing to lift any of those sanctions?...
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Dancing With The Stars Val Chmerkovksiy A Surprise Guest On Hello Ross
Did any of you catch "Hello Ross" Friday night? According to Lynne, Val Chmerkovksiy was a surprise guest. Lynne tells us Ross was bemoaning the fact he wasn't on Dancing With The Stars and how much he would love to dance with Val Chmerkovksiy. Then suddenly, Val enters the stage, grabs Ross out of his chair, and dances him across the floor ending with a dip. LOL! Be watching this link at E Online as they may post a video soon. Thanks to Lynne for sending us this news and the instagram below.


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