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Georgia Quietly OKs Immigration Crackdown
As Congress considers immigration reform, Gov. Nathan Deal signed sweeping legislation that bars undocumented immigrants from obtaining state driver's licenses, grants, public housing and retirement benefits.
By Jeremy Redmon
Gov. Nathan Deal has quietly signed into law a measure that will expand Georgia's sweeping crackdown on illegal immigration.
Senate Bill 160 is aimed at blocking illegal immigrants from obtaining state driver's licenses, state grants, public housing and retirement benefits. The bill will also prevent people from using foreign passports to obtain public benefits, unless those passports include paperwork indicating they are in the country legally.
Deal signed the measure Wednesday without public comment. The legislation expands on House Bill 87, a comprehensive immigration measure he signed into law in 2011.
The Republican governor's decision to sign SB 160 comes as national GOP leaders are recalibrating their positions on immigration following President Barack Obama's reelection win last year with about 70 percent of the Hispanic vote.
Congress is now considering a bipartisan bill that would provide a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million immigrants living illegally in the U.S. The federal Homeland Security Department estimated there were 440,000 immigrants living illegally in Georgia in 2011.
About 1,500 people marched through downtown Atlanta on April 10 in support of Congress overhauling the nation's immigration system. Among other things, the demonstrators called on Deal to veto SB 160.
SB 160 is also intended to clean up several unintended problems created by the state's 2011 immigration law.
For example, the bill is aimed at preventing massive backlogs for professional license renewals. Those backlogs were created by a provision in the 2011 law that requires applicants to show certain forms of "secure and verifiable" identification every time they renew their licenses.
"This legislation fixes some of the unintended consequences of the 2011 immigration legislation," said Brian Robinson, a spokesman for the governor. "This will restore efficiency to government services, such as receiving a professional license, while still safeguarding taxpayers against the costs of illegal immigration."
SB 160 would also require all city, county and state government agencies to make their contractors to use a free online work-authorization program called E-Verify. Government agencies with fewer than two employees are now exempt from this requirement.
Republican state Rep. Dustin Hightower of Carrollton, who sponsored similar legislation in the House, said he was pleased Deal signed the Senate measure.
"I think it will go a long way in protecting the citizens of Georgia and the taxpayers of Georgia," said Hightower, who served on a legislative conference committee that helped craft the final version of SB 160.
Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, criticized Deal's decision to sign the measure.
"It is a shame that Governor Deal continues to stoke anti-immigrant sentiment through signing SB160," Gonzalez said in an email. "The law will make Georgia more hostile towards foreigners and make Georgia less competitive in the global market place. When the national GOP is moving toward immigration reform, Gov. Deal takes a huge step backward."
Martin Lopez, an immigrant rights activist from Atlanta, was among those who demonstrated outside the state Capitol this month. He said many immigrants have been using their foreign passports as a form of identification because the state's 2011 law prohibits officials from accepting matricula consular cards when people apply for public benefits.
"I don't really know the outcome -- it is going to be big," said Lopez, who was illegally brought to the U.S. from Mexico when he was a child but has been granted a two-year reprieve from deportation.
SB 160 will take effect July 1.
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But, from a couple of months ago, a young sports writer called Jim Pagels explained at Slate that Twitter death threats are just a joke and everybody should ignore them.
Just about every week, it seems there's a story about a celebrity, athlete, or politician receiving death threats from morons on Twitter. The media often treat these frivolous incidents like they're a fatwa on Salman Rushdie. The latest example: New York Giants running back Brandon Jacobs, for performing poorly on fantasy football teams. (Fitting there be fantasy threats for a fantasy sport.)
The stories often give the impression that this is some kind of shocking event for which we should pity the "victims," but anyone who's spent 10 minutes online knows that these assertions are entirely toothless.
Yes! Totally! That is so true! Except of course for the ones that aren't, and the fact that there's no way to tell the difference. Also except for the fact that being the target of extended obsessive hatred is itself not actually toothless. Except literally. It is literally toothless, yes, but figuratively, it's not.
In a piece in the Atlantic last year, Jen Doll wrote: "If there's anything to be afraid of, it's this idea that death threats are this kind of new online norm." They are, in fact, the norm. However, I think it's also safe to assume that these wannabe Tony Sopranos only represent the lowest trenches of society.
Ah yes "safe to assume"…but such things are more safe to assume for some people than they are for others. Also, the fact that some guy thinks it's safe to assume something isn't particularly compelling as a reason to assume it yourself. Also, even if the harassers and threateners do represent only "the lowest trenches of society," so what? That's still a lot of people.
So how do we stop this trend of pointless reporting? There really aren't any clear solutions. There will always be a dark corner of the Internet, so you can't stop the source. And you can't tell websites to stop publishing these stories, because they surely generate boatloads of mindless page views. Maybe the solution is to just let the Internet continue to be the Internet, and people will eventually grow bored of this "news." Or perhaps we should just send death tweets to the writers who report on these occurrences. It seems like they take these threats rather seriously.


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Sinovel will issue 100 million general public shares, valuing 10 percent of its gross assets, to collect about CHY 3.5 billion yuan, according to the Dalian State-owned Assets Administration Committee (DSAAC) on March 1. Sinovel was unable to comment.
The cpmpany is the largest high-tech enterprise dedicated to developing, designing, producing and selling large-scale wind turbines in China.
According to reports, the application will be filed this month with the IPO set to be launched in October. Dalian Heavy Industries, with a 20% holding, will remain the Sinovel's biggest shareholder.
In 2009 Sinovel announced it had begun cooperating with wind power developers across the world as part of a long-term global marketing strategy. In January it started production of a 5MW turbine at its factory in Jiangsu and in December launched its first 3MW turbine.
The company said it aims to create extensive overseas marketing channels and has held discussions with partners to construct manufacturing bases and research and development centres overseas. The company aims for overseas sales to eventually account for 30-40% of total revenue.
The other two players in China's wind energy sector – Goldwind and China Huaneng Group, are poised to launch flotation plans in a bid to ramp up capacity and move into overseas markets.
Goldwind has confirmed that it wants to be listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange after a shareholders meeting in September 2009 endorsed the issue of shares to the value of CNY247 million ($36 million).
The shares will not exceed 15% of Goldwind's stock equities.Goldwind is already listed on China's Shenzhen stock exchange. It is worth CNY28.78 billion (US$4.2 billion).
Meanwhile, Huaneng has confirmed that it is also planning to list its wind power unit on the stock exchange.
A company official for Huaneng New Energy, responsible for the group's renewables business, refused to confirm on which stock exchange it intends to float, but earlier media reports suggested that it could be Hong Kong in a share issue worth US$1-1.5 billion.


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Longest Pirates losing streak since September 2012
Justin Upton smashed his 24th home run of the season to spoil Andrew McCutchen's return as the Atlanta Braves beat the Pittsburgh Pirates 11-3 on Tuesday night.
Upton's three-run homer off Francisco Liriano (3-10) in the third broke things open early. He added a two-run single off reliever Brandon Cumpton in the fifth as the Braves extended Pittsburgh's losing streak to a season-high seven games.
Jason Heyward went 2 for 5 with three RBI for the Braves while Evan Gattis hit his 19th homer. Atlanta has won five straight.
Aaron Harang (10-7) struck out four without a walk in 8 1-3 innings.
McCutchen went 0 for 4 in his first game back after missing two weeks with fractured cartilage in his ribs. The reigning National League MVP left the game after grounding into a double play in the bottom of the eighth.
Travis Snider, Starling Marte and Russell Martin had two hits apiece for the Pirates.
The Pirates went 5-9 without their superstar center fielder, who went to the 15-day disabled list retroactive to Aug. 4 after injuring himself while swinging on a routine sacrifice fly against Arizona. He received a standing ovation when he made his first plate appearance but was caught looking at a fastball from Harang that caught the outside corner.
It marked the start of another forgettable night for the Pirates, who matched their longest losing streak since dropping seven in a row from Sept. 7-14, 2012. That skid came in the middle of a late freefall that sent them tumbling out of playoff contention after a promising summer.
While Pittsburgh is slipping, the Braves are surging behind Upton, who is hitting .382 (13 for 34) with four homers during his 10-game hitting streak.
Atlanta already led 1-0 in the third when Liriano - who came in with a 2.15 ERA since the All-Star break - allowed singles by Phil Gosselin and Freddie Freeman to start the inning. Upton sent a lined shot over the wall in left to make it 4-0 and the Braves kept piling on.
Heyward drove home B.J. Upton in the fourth and Liriano's control disappeared completely in the fifth. Chris Johnson reached on an error, Gattis singled and Andrelton Simmons walked to load the bases. B.J. Upton singled home Johnson and Heyward plated a pair with a sharp single to right off Cumpton.
Liriano gave up nine runs, seven earned, in four-plus innings. He walked three and struck out four while his ERA rose from 3.78 to 4.18.
It was more than enough support for Harang, whose only real trouble came in the ninth when he failed to get through his first complete game since June 11, 2013 while pitching for the Seattle Mariners.
Braves: After failing to retire a single batter against Charlotte in an International League game on Wednesday night, rehabbing right-handed reliever Shae Simmons will make a third appearance for Triple-A Gwinnett on Wednesday. Simmons, who has been on the disabled list since July 27 with a strained right shoulder, pitched one scoreless inning in his first outing last Saturday against Norfolk.
Pirates: Shortstop Clint Barmes was given a night off in Triple-A Indianapolis as he recovers from a strained left groin that has sidelined him since late June. The 35-year-old Barmes went 0 for 3 in his first game with the Indians on Monday night.
Braves: Alex Wood (9-9, 3.07 ERA) goes for his third straight victory on Wednesday for Atlanta. The 23-year-old has a 1.45 ERA over his last six starts but remains at .500 on the season because he receives the second-lowest run support in the majors.
Pirates: Ace-in-training Gerrit Cole (7-4, 3.78 ERA) returns from his second stint on the disabled list on Wednesday. Cole hasn't pitched in the majors since being sidelined by right lat soreness on July 9. He pitches seven scoreless innings for Triple-A Indianapolis last Friday. Cole is 4-1 in his last five decisions. He will be making his first career start against Atlanta.


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WASHINGTON — Of the issues deemed most likely to break through congressional sclerosis this year, immigration policy overhaul once topped the list. But now a comprehensive Senate plan that passed with bipartisan support is dead in the House, casting serious doubt on further action on one of the nation's most vexing issues.
House conservatives have balked, saying the Senate version is too ambitious and too lenient.
Sunday, several Republican and Democratic lawmakers took to talk shows in an effort to revive the issue, expressing hope that the House Republican plan to split the bill into pieces can somehow keep the debate going long enough to bring disparate lawmakers together.
"I don't think it's dead," said Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, one of 14 Republicans to back the bill, on ABC's "This Week." "I do think that our House members are going to take this as a very serious challenge, and frankly, I'm counting on them."
Representative Mike Kelly, a Republican of Pennsylvania, promised on CBS's "Face the Nation'' that House Republicans would eventually produce "something that makes sense for the American people."
"If we can't do that, then shame on us," Kelly said.
Many Republican leaders have worried that conservatives' opposition to comprehensive immigration legislation will give the party an "anti-immigrant" reputation, one that could undermine its bid to regain the White House. But to their deep consternation, many House conservatives are resolute in their opposition to the Senate plan.
"Leaders of the party were not elected. We were. And we're listening to our constituents," said Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican, emerging from a closed-door meeting last week, where the GOP caucus aired its differences on the issue.
Many House Republicans object to a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. They oppose greater authority for the president over border security. And they see the immigration bill as too sweeping, in the same category of big-government solution as President Obama's health care law.
The Senate bill affects nearly every segment of immigration law. It includes an enforcement plan that adds $46 billion for a border security "surge," boosts the number of work visas, and increases employment verification.
A 13-year path to citizenship is at the legislation's core — and also at the core of conservatives' opposition.
Supporters of the overhaul are now grasping at anything to keep the bill from dying, hoping that pleas delivered during a raucous closed-door meeting last week from House leaders to rank-and-file members to at least engage in the issue will rescue it. They argue that doing nothing about the 11 million illegal immigrants amounts to de facto amnesty, leaving an entire class of people to operate in the shadows of American society.
"Rather than me criticizing the House, I just hope they will speak," Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who helped write the Senate bill, said in an interview. "That's all . . . the worst thing for a member of Congress to do is basically just punt."
Representative Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the House's second-ranked Democrat, was reluctant to dismiss any prospect, agreeing that "Republican leadership is having a hard time figuring out what to do."
"Democrats are pretty united on a comprehensive bill path to citizenship," he told reporters Thursday. "But I don't want to preclude — I don't know what they're going to do."
Graham said the issue is crucial for both parties, adding that "just ignoring this problem from a Republican point of view is a nonstarter."
Several Republican Party leaders have argued that their party will suffer long-term consequences if they are seen as anti-immigrant, as evidenced by Mitt Romney's dismal showing with Hispanic voters in the 2012 elections.
"As we go into 2016 and try to convince the American people that are electing a Republican president, hopefully, [they] will see that we are trying to deal with immigration in a rational way," Graham said.
But rank-and-file House Republicans are deeply skeptical. They offered a variety of responses, some of them vague, over how to handle the issue during interviews last week.
The most conservative members continue to say illegal immigrants should be deported without exception because, by coming to America without documentation, they broke the law. Some House Republicans said there should be exceptions for some, including those who arrived as children and had no choice in the matter. Other members shaded the issue differently, saying the government could offer steps to "regularization," without defining the term, for some who came illegally that falls short of citizenship.
A bipartisan House bill that had been in the works for months has never been released publicly. Instead, the chamber is set to consider four smaller bills, approved at the committee level, that would increase visas for skilled workers, create a system requiring employers to verify workers' legal status through a government database known as E-Verify, set higher wages for foreign agricultural workers, and give local communities and states greater authority over immigration enforcement.
House leaders are working on a fifth bill that would provide "legal status" to illegal immigrants who were brought to the US by their parents. Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican who leads the House Judiciary Committee, said in a statement Friday that he and majority leader Eric Cantor, who is writing the bill with him, believe the measure is part of an effort to "find a way to fairly deal with those who are currently in the country unlawfully."
His office would not provide further details of the bill, including a more specific definition of who would qualify and what level of legal status they could achieve.
Regardless, it's far from guaranteed to win approval even in the House, where Speaker John Boehner, under pressure from members, has promised not to introduce any immigration bills that do not have majority Republican support.
That gives far more influence to such members as Representative Mo Brooks, an Alabama Republican, who read "America the Beautiful" during last week's closed-door Republican caucus to dramatize his argument that no illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay.
"Anyone who's come to our country, whose first step on American soil is to thumb their nose at our law and violate our law, we should not reward them with our highest honor, which is citizenship," he said afterward. "They need to go back to where they came from, one at a time, just as they came here one at a time."
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WEST HILLS (CBSLA.com) — Two sisters who were stranded overnight in the brutally cold Tehachapi Mountains were found Wednesday with the help of some leftover fruit peels.
Ariel Fitzmorris, 16, and her sister, 21-year-old Allison, left around 1:30 p.m. on New Year's Day to go hiking in the area of Pine Mountain Club near Frazier Park.
They were reported missing by family members around 8 p.m. when they didn't return home.
"My understanding is that they went for a hike and didn't show up on time. So…(the family) called search and rescue," said the girls' grandfather, Neil Fitzmorris.
Search and rescue teams, however, were unable to locate Ariel and Allison after combing the area that night.
The girls' brother said the Los Angeles Police Department also tried finding them by tracking their phones, but they left their cells at home.
Then, almost two hours into the search on Wednesday morning, officials found some food the girls had taken with them on the hike.
"They had some oranges. We were able to track them off of some of the orange peels," said Sgt. Ken Smith of the Kern County Sheriff's Department Search & Rescue Team.
Both girls were found about 1.5 miles away from where they were last seen.
Ariel and Allison were taken to the hospital to be evaluated.


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If you've ever spent time researching the paranormal, you've probably noticed that much of the discussion surrounding the topic can be summarized as nothing more than opinions being debated among believers and non-believers alike. While this statement might not sit well with those of us who dedicate our time to the field of paranormal research, the truth we must admit to ourselves is that nearly every premise we operate under is unproven; they are merely surmises generated by a collective of individual perception and personal belief.
For those who have never been involved in a lively debate on, for example, the types of paranormal activity, this concept might not make sense at first glance, but you've probably seen at least one television show peppered with the term 'personal experience'. This term is the key to the entire field of paranormal research. Everything we do is affected by our personal experiences, and those experiences are all based on our individual perception of the world around us. This long-standing situation has allowed those outside the field to target our research as pseudoscience.
All of this begs the question: Should the 'data' collected through paranormal research—photographs of orbs, video of strange shadows, audio recordings of what most interpret as a voice—which relies on individual perceptions be considered evidence? Its a difficult question to answer. The collection of data might seem to be science-based as it makes use of technology, yet even with modern recording devices, it all begins in the mind.
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The easiest way to understand just how much perception affects our evidenceis to test your own skills. Listen to the audio clip below, then challenge your friends to listen to it. Compare what you each think you've heard.
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While it might seem natural to begin by digging further into the actual data itself, the first item of issue that must be addressed is the definition and concept of evidence. Ask anyone on the street if they know what evidence is and you're certain to hear a resounding yes. Then ask them to give you the definition. You might just be amazed at the variety of responses you receive. I recently surveyed a group of family and friends, asking them this question: Without looking it up, can you define evidence? Here are two of their responses:
"I would say, 'that which supports a claim'. I'm certain that there is some Latin involved which would explain the exact word."
"Physical props that confirm a theory?"
Who has the right answer? Do you know? Here's the Dictionary.com definition for the word:
1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
Instead of helping to clarify the point, the alternative definitions for the word merely confuse the issue—and that is before we have even added in modern philosophical debate to the mix. There are two well-known quotes on the topic of philosophy and evidence which sum up the problem quite well. The first is from the book Philosophy in the Twentieth Century, written by A.J. Ayer, who observed,"For my own part, I think that if one were looking for a single phrase to capture the stage to which philosophy has progressed, 'the study of evidence' would be a better choice than 'the study of language'." This concept is further expounded upon by R.G. Collingwood in The Idea of History, where he wrote,"And when we try to define 'evidence' … we find it very difficult." Difficult indeed!
This philosophical mire is exactly what the paranormal investigator wades into each time he or she uses the term evidence. Do they define that evidence as something which they believe proves or disproves the existence of ghosts, or is it 'hard evidence,' like that we'd find in a courtroom? And if they do indeed speak of that 'hard evidence' variety, does it not follow that it should be physical evidence or material facts that can not be debated or disproved?
The most frustrating factor of this confusion over the actual meaning of evidence is that it is only one facet of the larger debate surrounding paranormal research. If we accept that evidence is a reference only to a data set that is convincing to those who do not currently believe in the existence of paranormal activity, we're excluding scientific research from the field on a wholesale level. If we instead choose to embrace the ideal of evidence as data which offers proof of fact, we bring the data itself into question, which in turn leads us back to our question of perception.
At this point, you're probably wondering exactly what perception has to do with a photograph or video. The answer is surprisingly simple: not everyone's brain will interpret stimuli in the same manner. therefore, many 'paranormal' experiences are actually just normal experiences interpreted differently. This concept applies to everything from a ghostly encounter to a digital photograph.
These altered perceptions are often described by professionals as mistaken or illusive. Examples of this type of alteration abound, such as a situation when a coat rack is mistaken for a man due to low lighting and indistinguishable shadows. Altered perception can also be explained as plain imagining, such as when the shadows appear to be something they aren't, taking on a shape and substance of their own. As an example, let's revisit the picture below, which we discussed in our blog post Psychology of the Paranormal Pt. 1:
It's all in the perception. It is for this reason that all data collected through a paranormal investigation not issuing from a scientific implement is suspect, even those seemingly-irrefutable videos and photographs. In fact, even when dealing with exact measurements such as time, temperature, pressure, etc, your collected data can be refuted if you've used the equipment improperly or failed to be exacting in your documentation. Yet those numbers are still removed from interpretation by an individual, whereas photographs and audio or video recordings are still external stimuli that our brain has to interpret.
As a community, paranormal investigation teams need to accept that no individuals perception of experiences will ever be credited as being scientific proof for an encounter with the paranormal. Science is much more likely to accept that those shadowy ghosts or that whispered response you're perceiving are merely a trick of the mind is known as pareidolia. Pareidolia is, "the imagined perception of a pattern or meaning where it does not actually exist, as in considering the moon to have human features."
To learn more about how our mind works to interpret the stimuli around us, you can research both pareidolia and the fusiform face area, a region of our brain where we process faces and possibly other stimuli that we are extremely familiar with.
All of this information leads one to wonder if perhaps our inability to understand paranormal experiences is due to a lack of 'belief' in the experiences, or a deeper inability to understand the workings of our own minds. If we are unable to develop a research methodology that is removed from the acts of perception, how will we ever be able to scientifically quantify what occurs during a paranormal event—or if those events even happen to begin with? With the understanding that our mental processes are affecting each piece of data we collect, how do we, as investigators, separate the personal experiences from the evidence? At this point, there are no obvious answers, but we are certain that, through the dedicated efforts of research teams across the country, the puzzle of these investigation methods will be solved.
Einstein once said,"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Though unintended, this statement sums up the current situation in field of paranormal research. The most effient way of achieving our end goal of understanding is to find a common ground between accepted science and paranormal research. Without scientists to help guide our research, the field investigations that paranormal teams conduct will never offer real evidence; without teams to carry out the field research, scientists will continue to miss out on opportunities to find an explanation for phenomena that are reported across the globe. Until we truly accept one another and embrace a new partnership, we continue to simply debate our personal beliefs.
Have you ever heard a voice in your head? Seen something that you can only describe as visualized, or perhaps seen with the Mind's eye? Many paranormal encounters are described with terms such as these- and just as many scientists discredit them as being instances of Mental Imagery.
According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosphy, Mental Imagery is quasi-perceptual experience. This means that it resembles a perceptual experience, but occurs without the appropriate triggers- scent without a source, piano music without a piano, etc.
The argument from a scientific standpoint, as it appears to me at least, rests on the heels of perception. Not everyone's brain will interpret stimuli in the same manner; therefore, many 'paranormal' experiences are merely normal experiences interpreted differently.
This altered perception is often described as mistaken or illusive perceptions (such as seeing a small bush some distance away and, because it is dark and indistinguishable, perceiving it to be a bear) or as plain imagining- like seeing a shape in a cloud. As an example, check out the picture below:
Did you see a duck? Or was it a rabbit? Both? It's all in the perception, and that is why no individuals 'mental imagery' experiences can be credited as being scientific proof for an encounter with the paranormal.
The thing I find most interesting about this out-of-hand dismissal of so-called mental imagery can be found in the fact that scientists themselves can't really figure out what mental imagery is; they're not sure what causes it, they don't know if it has a singular purpose or if it is simply a part of the 'way we work'. There are several active theories that attempt to explain mental imagery, but each one is highly contested by other theories.
Which leads me to wonder if perhaps our inability to understand and quantify paranormal experiences is due to a lack of 'belief' in the experiences, or a deeper inability to understand the workings of our own minds.


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Systemic Oral Enzymes for Tinnitus: A New Therapy for an Ancient Disease by Michael Schedler, M.D. from The Doctor's Oral Enzyme Health Letter - Volume 1, Number 4 As an ear, nose and throat specialist, I have treated more than 5,000 tinnitus sufferers using nutritional strategies including dietary supplements - even though in the beginning my attitude was that you cannot do very much about the condition. I suffered my own bout with tinnitus starting in 1983. It lasted for several years. I attribute its onset to poor diet and lifestyle habits, as well as a long-standing inflammatory condition.
What is Tinnitus?
Today, tinnitus affects 40 to 50 million in the United Sates population, roughly 15 percent. Some six million Americans have tinnitus to the extent that it significantly impacts their life. Fully two million Americans have tinnitus to the extent that it is disabling.
Most people live their lives reasonably satisfactorily in spite of their tinnitus, but for others tinnitus can be maddening. Imagine living with an enemy 24 hours a day that no one else hears and that the medical community in general agrees is incurable and difficult to control.
Don't feel alone if you're suffering tinnitus. William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Tony Randall, Barbara Streisand, Rosalynn Carter, David Letterman, Ronald Reagan, and Steve Martin have all suffered bouts with tinnitus at one time or another, according to the American Tinnitus Association.
For some, limbic system reconditioning ("auditory habituation"), enhanced by self-hypnosis, can help to make tinnitus largely inconsequential in their own life.
Personally, I changed my diet and lifestyle. I also used a German over-the-counter enzyme preparation, Wobenzym N, which provided complete relief. I have since confirmed its effectiveness anecdotally with thousands of my patients.
Causes of Tinnitus
Many experts attribute the problem particularly to occupational and environmental noises, especially sharp explosions. In about two percent of cases the cause may be a vascular lesion, carotid artery narrowing and other circulatory problems in the person's head. A significant percentage of cases, however, have no known cause.
Conventional Treatment
Piomeered by Dr. Jack Vernon of the Oregon Hearing Research Center, masking involves substituting a less noxious stimulus, usually in teh same tonal range that is externally produced, to cover the internally produced noise. This is much like the strategy employed by urban residents when thay turn on a fan or music for its white noise effect to mask the traffic or other sources of noise. The masking sound is typically produced from a bedside unit or in a unit worn on or beside the ear.
More recently, within the last seven to eight years, a different management strategy has been promoted by Dr. Pawel Jastreboff of the University of Maryland School of Medicine Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Center, Baltimore. The Jastreboff approach to tinnitus is to institute retraining therapy or auditory habituation. Directive counseling explains the anatomy and physiology of the auditory system as it relates to tinnitus. The goal is to recondition the limbic system to let go so the internal noise can cease to be an issue in the life of tinnitus sufferers.
Doctor's Own Bout with Tinnitus Leads to Cure
Next, I started treating other patients' hearing disorders with this enzyme formula. I found a strong link between chronic ear infections (chronic running ear), leaking fusions such as puss or clear secretions and proteins, and cases of tinnitus. I have since treated thousands of patients with enzymes with generally good results.
That is because out-of-control inflammatory processes are very much to blame for a significant percentage of tinnitus cases among my patients. The patented Wobenzym N formula consists of trypsin, chymotrypsin, bromelain, papain, and pancreatin with a small amount of the bioflavanoid rutin. Volumes have been published about this formula but, oddly, I am probably the world's leading expert on the use of enzymes in the treatment of tinnitus. In fact, I recently published an extensive paper in the German medical literature on Wobenzym N and tinnitus which will soon be translated and made available here in the United States. Because this formula attacks inflammation safely and effectively, I believe that enzymes have a sound basis for use in supporting the body's normal inflammatory processes, and for helping to relieve tinnitus in those patients where inflammation is a factor.
I started out using the formula with the worst cases and found out the effects were amazing. Patients were getting better who had suffered for years. In one case, I was working with a very sceptical fellow who had suffered tinnitus in his right ear for 17 years. He started taking the enzymes but came back complaining the noise was worse. I have since found that an intial worsening is not only normal but also a very promising reaction. Indeed, in my experience, this is the best reaction we could possibly desire. I have seen such reactions in many cases and these were truly the ones with the best resolution. An increase in tinnitus levels shows that the remedy is having an impact upon the underlying pathogenic structure. Very often this indicates, that the tinnitus may have an immunologic aspect. I have encountered this often in cases of so called "autoimmune inner ear disease." For this type of treatment, I recommend 10 Wobenzym N tablets three times daily. Once I got my patient on the full program for a few weeks, he was feeling much better and the intensity of the tinnitus decreased significantly. When he got down to a very low decibel reading, he declared, "This is an incredible breakthrough. After 17 years, I have been liberated!"
Diet and Tinnitus
Reducing fat and cholesterol is extremely important. A high fat and cholesterol diet may end up reducing the flow of oxygen and nutrients to the inner ear due to blood cell clumping. Too much saturated fat and cholesterol contribute to arterial damage in the carotid arteries in the neck that go to the brain as well as other vessels in the head. Medical case reports and studies mention cholesterol "clumps" and overall high cholesterol levels as causes or partial contributers to tinnitus. Studies throughout the 1980s confirm that high fat diets contribute to hearing loss and possibly to tinnitus.
Reducing sugar intake is important. Increased sugar intake can cause hypoglycemia. During a hypoglycemic episode, adrenaline is released by the adrenal gland. This causes vasoconstriction of the inner ear and can precipitate a tinnitus crisis.


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The world's newest member in the community of nations got plenty of press coverage when it formally declared independence in July. But one aspect of South Sudan's emergence went largely unnoticed: the establishment of official diplomatic relations with Israel. Far from a routine gesture, the mutual declaration of recognition between the two states could prove to be a significant boost to Israel's strategic position, not to mention the positives that may come as South Sudan attempts to get its new state on a strong footing.
The leaders of South Sudan, a country with a feeble national infrastructure and a near-nonexistent formal economy after two decades of conflict with the north, will much appreciate the economic aid and leverage that comes with a new diplomatic relationship. But it is actually Israel that has the most to gain.
Israel's diplomatic outreach extends a measure of goodwill to the people of South Sudan – who need all the help they can get as their country begins the long process of setting up embassies, forming an independent foreign policy, and building up their agricultural potential. But the new partnership with the South Sudanese Government also provides Israel with an opportunity to create a foothold in a region that is known to export some its instability into the Middle East.
At the same time that the Israeli people continue to raise questions over the rising costs of housing, food, and fuel, the diplomatic relationship with South Sudan has the potential to alleviate some of those problems – that is, if the Israeli government is serious about working with a country projected by some to be Africa's biggest food producer. And while South Sudan certainly has years to go before its economy breaks free from the shackles of oil dependency, the technical expertise that Israel brings into the new relationship at least has a potential to make that transition a little easier.
Economics are not the only benefit for Israel. This new relationship could prove a huge boost to Israel's global standing – and its strategy of Iranian deterrence as well. Over the past several years, Iran – Israel's archenemy in the region – has been accelerating its own diplomatic push on the African continent in an attempt to compensate for its loss of markets in the west.
A concerted campaign by Israel to sponsor development projects in South Sudan, involve itself in promoting the country's untapped natural resources, and build people-to-people contacts that are genuine and long-lasting would take a significant potential market and relationship from Iran as it tries to survive economic sanctions on its nuclear program.
In addition to using its hard power to slow down Tehran's pursuit of an indigenous nuclear program, the Israelis will find it worthwhile to exploit soft power as well. Putting a good face on the African continent is one aspect of that soft power approach.
Partnering up with South Sudan also enables Israel – and by extension, the United States – to increase pressure on neighboring Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, whose government has capitalized on terrorism in the past. While Sudan has drastically reduced its support for terrorist attacks in the region after the September 11 attacks, Mr. Bashir's country continues to serve as a place of convenience for those who would be more than happy to strike western targets. (Osama bin Laden resided in Sudan before traveling to Afghanistan in 2001.)
Elements of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, two groups that have launched attacks against Israelis this year, are also known to operate in Sudan, with or without the permission of Sudanese authorities.
Indeed, whether the Sudanese are complicit in the arrangement is not necessarily the most frightening aspect of this situation for the Israelis. The major concern is that armed groups are operating on Sudanese territory with relative impunity, ensuring that their fighters are well rested and their organization is at least healthy enough to survive another day.
What has been most worrisome to Israelis over the past few years are intelligence reports alleging that armed Palestinian groups in the Gaza Strip have used Sudan as a transit point for smuggling weapons into the coastal territory. Israeli and US intelligence has indicated that Sudan serves as a layover for Iranian weapons destined for fighters in Gaza, an arrangement that Israel has tried to counter by bombing suspected weapons convoy sites on Sudanese territory.
Sudan losing a third of its territory to the South Sudanese will undeniably throw a wrench into the inner workings of these fundraising and arms procurement efforts. This disruption will continue, of course, only if South Sudan quickly undertakes the hard work of converting a guerrilla force into a coherent and law-abiding army – one that follows international human rights law, the laws of war, and is held accountable by the senior military and civilian leadership when the rules are violated.
None of this will come shortly or out of thin air. But having established diplomatic ties with dozens of countries around the world – including with an Israeli state that prides itself on its military record – South Sudan is not alone in the journey.
South Sudan may have been admitted to the United Nations as a full member state, but the work of building a stable nation has only just begun. Multiple challenges remain for the young country, ranging from meeting food security needs to ensuring that their soldiers can refrain from contributing to yet another conflict with the Sudanese Government on the contentious border. Israel can help with this transition, picking up a new ally at a time when it faces a significant bout of diplomatic turbulence.
Daniel R. DePetris studies security issues and Middle Eastern affairs at the Maxwell School of Syracuse University, where he is an associate editor of the Journal on Terrorism and Security Analysis. He has contributed to the Diplomat, Small Wars Journal, and Foreign Policy in Focus.


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Artist, Haunter, and awesome guy John Wolfe of SeasonOfShadows.com has passed away.
Just saw the news on Shellhawk's blog.
Click below:
I'll make sure to carve a pumpkin in his honor on each and every Halloween.
Wednesday, March 7, 2012
Very Sad Update
Artist, Haunter, and awesome guy John Wolfe of SeasonOfShadows.com has passed away.
14 comments:
- pensive pumpkin said...
that's a great idea. let's all do that, and post the photo.
- March 7, 2012 at 9:18 PM
- JD said...
Goodbye John Wolfe, well miss you.
- March 7, 2012 at 11:47 PM
- Marrow said...
Rest In Peace, John.
Your bravery (and props) are an inspiration to all.
- March 7, 2012 at 11:54 PM
- Mr Black said...
He was such a wonderful man, it is so sad he is gone.John was a great friend.
- March 8, 2012 at 5:10 AM
- Jay's Shadow said...
Never knew him personally, but I really enjoyed his blog and haunt.
I was thinking of cutting out the green lights in my haunt this year and just use red in honor of him.
- March 8, 2012 at 7:29 AM
- Wikkedmoon said...
Like everyone here, I enjoyed his blog so much. What a great guy and Halloween enthusiast. His videos were the best. Rest in peace John and Godspeed.
- March 8, 2012 at 8:40 AM
- The October boy said...
Rest in Peace my friend.
- March 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM
- crudedoodle.com said...
I think the point of this life thing is to leave a mark and to positively affect people. He's obviously done that.
Glad I got to know his work through all of you.
- March 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM
- Dave Lowe said...
Very sad to hear. Halloween will be a little less fun without him, but his work will continue to inspire.
- March 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM
- Mr Black said...
Jays Shadow- That is a brilliant idea, I am in.
- March 9, 2012 at 4:55 AM
- Ghastly said...
Rest in Peace John.
- March 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM
- JHMDF said...
I got the message a few hours after he passed and I just sat there. I really wanted him to make it to his birthday. Just glad he is not suffering anymore.
- March 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM
- Rene said...
How very, very sad. He was an artist and inspiration. A loss not only to those of us who share this interest but to the entire human family.
- March 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM
- The Gill-Man said...
I've been dreading this news. In fact, I've been (rather ridiculously) avoiding the blogosphere for the past week or so, as I had a feeling this was about to happen. I never knew John, but his blog was a favorite of mine. His haunt was so delightful. I too will do something in honor of John for my haunt this year. Rest in Peace, to a soul who did the Haunting community proud.
- March 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM


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Music review- The naked truth about Phish
Legendary rock band Phish came to John Paul Jones Arena on Saturday, December 5, for the final sold-out show of their fall tour. It was an appropriate setting, not least because Charlottesville has become a new center of sorts ever since locally based Red Light Management began repping them after their reunion shows in Hampton, this past March.
The four rockers opened with a jolting "AC/DC Bag" and pumped through a few more tunes before the phreak show turned into a streak show. Literally.
A few measures into "Ya Mar," the band was greeted on stage by a dude in– you guessed it– his birthday suit. (And it should be noted that lead singer/guitarist Trey Anastasio didn't miss a beat, immediately dubbing him "Naked Guy" after joking that the stunt "took a lot of balls"– and then busting into a unique and partially a cappella version of "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley," which we can only guess was his subtle attempt to nickname this version "Streakin' Sally!")
Nuttiness continued well into the second set, which Phish launched with a 25-minute jam opening into their ever-popular, 20-year-old "Tweezer" and then seamlessly transitioned into "Light," a new tune from their latest album Joy.
Other highlights included a cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sweet Virginia" sung by drummer Jon Fishman (which, not surprisingly, prompted extra-loud applause from the C'ville crowd), and a deep and dark rendition of "Run Like An Antelope," complete with a fitting 11th-hour sing-along chorus change to "run like a naked guy, out of control!"
And an out-of-control show it was, proving once again that Phish is back– but perhaps more in control than ever.
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lalala....every band does not have a community in the sense we are discussing. Every band has a fanbase, yes, but that does not make it a community. We travel the country together, from show to show, city to city, making lifelong friends along the way. We help each other without question, without anything expected in return. It has been almmost 15 years to the day since my 1st Phish show and it is honestly the most life altering moment in my life. This band has shaped my life into the person I am today and I wouldn't want it any other way. How many Top 40 band fans have seen thier favorite band 72 times over 15 years in 15 states? Answer: ZERO because top 40 artists careers generally don't last 15 years, let alone 26 years like Phish. They are special weather people realize it or not.
I do understand the sense of community. Todd Rundgren does the same thing for his fans, but thankfully he can write great songs and doesn't jam all night. He did some of that in his younger days but grew out of it. Hopefully some of you all will too.
Ya it is a mix sometimes our community is grat. I heard a guy at syracuse yell annd push a security guard for cleaing the aisle. I greabbed him and told him he is giving us all a bad name. He told mehe hated the band and he would do whatever the f he wants. To all people likethis stay home you give us a bad name and we dont want you there anyway. Also stop throwing glow sticks at the band they dont deserve it. They put up with a ton of bs and we should appreciate what they do for usnot get drunk and abuse them. sometimes I would like to get real fans together a apologize to the band about the way we act. I know they understand that it si not all of us but they are just doing there job. How would you like it if someone thru something at yo while you were at your desk trying to work. they bring happiness its not like they play for 20 mins then slam the microphone down they give it all they can every time well almost every time. point being just be respectful
gotta say - it was the first time i had seen phish in 15 years - music was solid, but man, were the (young) fans intense. and often not in a nice way - lots of pushing and shoving . . . a muskity muck at JPJ said the phish fans were far and away the most disrespectful bunch that has come through the arena thus far - more drunk and disporderly then even the jimmy buffet parrotheads, and those cats are tough to beat. i was a little embarrased we weren't better behaved, as a "community!"
One Phish head's salvation
"I was addicted to a life where I had no responsibility," she said, "where everything was about the search for the next peak experience. It was narcissistic and hedonistic and ultimately empty. I had nothing to show for it afterward."
All experiences in life, for those caught up in the band experience, began to pale. The highs of the concert could not be replicated. And the band would often announce what kind of mood they intended to throw the listeners into on any given night, saying that the show would be "dark" or "light." The mood of those in each concert would vary with the music and lyrics played that night.
"The band takes over a crowd," said Megan Leff, 28, who works in advertising in Manhattan. "They throw everyone into a fury. You cannot move or shake quickly enough. Then, suddenly, they will have everyone fall and pretend they are dead."
But the slavish devotion to the band finally proved hollow to many who gave their lives over to it. They finally had to look within themselves and cope with the demons they once tried to escape.
"I would not be who I am today if I had not done this," Ms. Senturia said. "But I know now I am not going to find what I am looking for in parking lots in other cities. I will find what I am looking for only within myself. It is easier to get in a car and think that the next show will give you fulfillment. It is harder to sit in one place and confront life."
phish is good but: good bad or indifferent i agree with the guy above who said the meters should have a bigger following. porter/nocentelli... good stuff... porter with anyone is worth seeing...
crazy how a black blues/funk band has a mostly white following.. i feel bad for them when i see em sometimes.. they must wonder why they don't see any black faces in the crowd.
and i feel bad for black folks who don't realise what a treasure george porter is. i know i sound like an a-hole for saying that but i don't fkkking care... more black people should listen to georgeporer and it's a travesty that they don't
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Jerry Garcia once allegedly said:
"Our audience is like people who like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice."
I agree with FD above, and with Jerry. You're either on the bus or your not. Either way it's ok. For me. the more licorice the better.
Oh, man, brah. That was the Greatest....show....ever. Naked guy was totally epic.
The sound in JPJ was awesome, too. I hope they come back here every year. I'd like to hear a review of Charlottesville by the members of the band.
GREAT show! good review too man, thanks for putting my mug up from the front row, what an awesome night!
What is it about them that people like? I tried to listen to them and its just not good music. I'm not saying they're not talented but I just don't enjoy it and I like most all music. I've had Phish Phreaks (ucwatidid) say I need to free my mind....what so I have to be high to enjoy it? I could be high and throw cheerios into a toilet for 4 hours and think it was the greatest game ever. What does freeing my mind have to do with it? What is so great about them? I'm honestly intrested in your intelligent responses.
why does anyone like to hear these guys jerk themselves off and show off for hours...boring, learn to write songs, dudes!
Great review, TD. Awesome pics, to boot!
"I used to be all messed up on drugs, then I found the lord, now I'm all messed up on the Lord"
Cheech & Chong:
(Sometime during the hazy 70's)
Regarding the scene Garcia one said
"...as far as I'm concerned, it's like I say, drugs are not the problem. Other stuff is the problem. "
That's what I saw at the Phish show @ JPJ. Just sayin'
1stromoff center. Todd's fans do travel to many shows.
perhaps Deadhead "forgot" he posted that already at 6:22...why? no reason in particular. Just sayin
hey I respect the many good deeds Dave has done in C'ville and elsewhere, he is a man among men...but his voice is horrible and too much jamming for druggies.
Oh and for all you phish haters. Phish gives a good chunk of their ticket sales and online music stores to help all the communities they play in. They were in the top 3 charitable bands of their generation. So C'vill VA you better respect the band you hate because I bet they just fed half of your homeless population for the holidays!!
Kyle, The Waterwheel Foundation partnered with The Music Resource Center in Charlottesville for this show, so the kids have instruments, but the hobos are still hungry. Appreciate your enthusiasm.
I was phish skeptic but I saw them a few times years ago when they were The Dead jr. C-Ville weakly did a nice review where they pointed out the dead would jam between lovely songs whereas phish just jams; it's true their songs aren't particularly great. But they can play and the show at JPJ was really, really stellar. There was an amazing sound and a great performance.
If you don't like them, don't go to the show. But why post negative comments about them if you didn't go? Ok, you don't like them. Good for you. Move on to something else.
It seems like some people are resentful of their success. I saw P-Funk when they were here and as much as I love their albums, the performance was drugged out and lackluster.
Phish truly did put on a great show.
If don't enjoy drugs, you won't enjoy Phish--it's that simple.
You don't have to be high/use drugs to enjoy a Phish show. Don't judge the music off one brief clip on YouTube. If you really want to gain an appreciation for the art of Phish you have to see more than one show, listen to their tracks in your own time. As with any music, judging from ignorance is simply ignorant.
Hey swietz, 6:22 seemed like a really pregnant moment in time, so when it happened again at 7:13 I felt as though I've been there before. sort of, like some sort of transcendental place in this thread. It's really just like a Phish show, that I might or not have experienced one time before, maybe twice. Gotta go now it's just like deja vu all over again... Just sayin'... again. But it's really all of the other stuff that causes the problems again and again. So, as hunter once said:
"It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken
Perhaps they're better left unsung
I don't know, don't really care
Let there be songs to fill the air"
@ Onthe1
---Phish: you either get it or you don't. For those that don't, I feel sorry for you.
commenting on Onthe1's statement
thats exactly it... there's no need to even go into it with people who just hate it always ends up getting no where bc they are all so close minded.... if you let it, it will come to you, and you're life... will change in the way you feel about music
This chain is really emotional and at times very awkward, but I cannot pass by a discussion of music...
@ Notajambandfan. Here's the thing, it's totally fine to not enjoy their music. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. And you are correct in saying that they are "talented," BUT very incorrect in saying that, "it's just not good music." Yes, music is subjective, however, when the vast majority of experts in any field approve and respect a 'development' (or a piece of art, for instance; in this case music), and that development is included in the cultural domain to which it belongs (i.e. it is something of permanent significance), it is safe to say that it is 'good,' at which point the burden is on us, the listener, to figure out why it's good. I mean, Phish is leaving a trace in the cultural matrix, and that is a highly noteworthy accomplishment. To say that, "it's just not good music," is silly. Now, there are many arguments one can make to this point, and if you do so, I will be more than happy to reply.
@ Kyle. Your statement about Phish regarding them making up their music, ââ?¬Ë?on the spot,' is a bit deceiving and not entirely true, and it seems you are trying to educate people properly about what is happening on stage so I am going to elaborate on your statement. Phish has a basic framework that they are working with (songs, chord progressions, etc.). So yes, various parts of the show grant more creative freedom than others, and many of the solos are made up as they are playing, but as good as these guys are, if they were to go into a show and makeup everything on the spot, the Phish we know today would not exist.
@ Listener7. "The masses prefer blandness and have since the ancient times?" Uhmmmmm "Š. HUH?
@ Tellgend. What kind of music do you like?
@ Lalala. I could not agree more with what you had to say"Š
If you're seriously, genuinely interested in why people love Phish, I'd be happy to share my own experiences and perspectives. But saying "it's just not good music" implies that you aren't really all that interested or sincerely curious. I'm not going to try to convert everyone, but if you just want to understand why hundreds of thousands of intelligent peers follow these silly noodling hippie types all around the country, I'll do what I can. :)
C-ville fans got a great show, definitely a fun time even if the setlist was a little standard for this tour. Good review, too.
not just Phish but the whole genre of drug promoting jam bands
The masses prefer your bands bro ask my dad about your bands and he will tell you all about them. phish has been around since the 80's playing clubs then theaters then arenas. You make me laugh. Lets see a show together and if you listen rather than hear you may understand. Remember every publication both big and small says phish is the best at what they do not just me and certainly we respect your opinion it is just that an opinion so keep it to yourself and go to the meters page or article and tell all the music writers how they Jam and they will laugh in your face. Also i have plaed every insturment since I was 7 and trust me the booys from phish know what they are doing so maybe grow up go see george clinton scream into the microphone and Jam out hahahhahah P funk jams hahaha
Hey all I can say is type from a blackberry from the plane and see how your spelling is hahah. Eat a Peach Mofo's haha I love you all
It's cool with me if you guys want to listen to Phish. I'm not taking your ticket, I'm just selling it to you for twice what I paid for it.
ahhhhhhhh C'ville, the land of way too many middle and upper class white boys playing the blues badly...
Everybody just calm down and take a schwill.
Good Call Sammy good call Just hate scalpers and apparently so does everyone else
I loved the show and love phish, but I cant wait to hear this "allmand bros" bad that Kyle is talking about. They sound NUTS!!!!
The community has changed from 1.0 to 3.0. A: no one travesls to see todd. B, When did everyone get so Master Headie. C, I love know it alls that think phish sucks. If they sucked so bad then please tell me why they were the most influential not just band but of any music in the 90's acording to your pop crazed douche bags at rolling stone. Phish melts your face trey is the best guistarist of our generation, Page rocks a piano in a "rock band" fish is so UNDERatded its Pathetic and Mike is one of the most talented people this world has ever seen from music, art movies poetry and he does way more then play the bass. he also does a hell of a job playing the banjo. Do some research. Phish in 8 short months went from seling out 7,000 people theaters to selling out MSG in 8 short months they earned everything they get and they give so much back to their community that in its self should get them props. Douch bags that hate will always hate bc their mind is closed to those that dont hate love ya and to those that are indifferent love ya too its just the cloed minded people out there that ruin it for everyone
@rmw EXACTLY RIGHT! Of course not everything is made up like yem guyute divided sky but during solos or type 2 jams is what I meant. i like good solid discussions and in the recent 3.0 of phish scalpers just really get under my skin and piss me off. I think some people come on just to get under the skin of fans. If you were at Albany night 2 the 7 below into ghost was one of the sickest jams i have seen them do in a long long time. Phish isnt for everyone but you dont see phish fans going to other sites just to bash their fav band. Most of us listen to all kinds of music not just phish and can appreciate what they do. Heck I just listened to the MGMT disc and kinda liked it. Kudos to all here
I detest extended guitar solos/jams. I've heard and played way too many of them. I had hoped that died with Foghat and Wishbone Ash.
The Dead pioneered the jam band crap and it's all about the drugs. Drugs are not good.
Been seeing Phish since 1994, plain and simple, they are the best band around, they are the most unique band around (no one does what they do, there are many imitators but they are the originator. The dead were not the same, the dead worked with Americana and countryish rock and developed a unique niche for exploritory jamming, But Phish is high energy much more complicated composition) To the haters, it's not your fault you are unable to digest Phish, you've likely been force fed top 40 crap your whole life and never thought to break out of the mold and explore music on your own. Phish changes peoples lives the scene develops people into good kind hearted people. Sorry you guys have no sense of community in your life and can't understand the value of a communal expierience through trancendental music.
You're one of the low percentage of smart ones. Way to go.
LOL @ Todd Rundgren community. Seriously you must not have any idea what it's like to be a part of a tent city of 80,000 people in the far reaches of this country, that is community. Limestone Maine...an easy drive from any direction!!!
to understand the community go to this site from A NON FAN!
SORRY 4GOT TO POST THE LINK http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-12-08/music/go-see-phish-at-least-once/
Every band has a community, a fan base. It makes no sense to compare that effect to Scientology, which demands strict adherence to a prescribed set of behaviors. We've already seen here that music communities are diverse and eclectic in belief and behavior.
P.S. Dave Matthews Band is not a jamband.
TO Notajambandfan. I think when people say open you mind I dont think they mean drugs. They mean go to a show and take in the moment at the moment. If you understand music they are making up music on the spot. It is like a comedian going on stage and not practicing his joke. Each show is a whole new experience. I dont do drugs and never had and to me it is about how they rarely take a break they jam on one song and lead right into the next just by listening to each other. Really when it comes down to it you have to see a few shows live to understand what is going on. They play songs inside of songs called teases which they may or not play during that show. Really bro or sis to each their own and it is not for everyone. Just know the music is being made up on the spot which is much different thatn say R Kelley who does the same songs in the same order oevery night without make a change to the setlist. Phish is like a blank chalkboard you never know what they are going to right on it. And honestly this isnt me just saying this their guitarist is one of the best ever (acording to rolling stone and guitar mag) Hope this helps. Always happy to help someone new.
I personally loves me some drugs. Espec-silly those twinkly types! I still can't figure out why anyone would like Phish.
I've never been able to figure out why lame groups like them get such a rabid tour hopping following while a band like P-Funk which would blow them out of the arena and which ought to appeal to the same sort of fan doesn't have hordes of P-Funk heads touring around. What about the Meters, Neville Bros., Chuck Brown or Maze? Any of them could outjam damn near any of the popular jam bands but the frat boys have never even heard of most of them.
Listener 7 you are dead wrong A frat boys like Dave Mathews 2 rolling stone called phish the most influential band of the 90's 3 the bands you mentioned are all good but dont even come close to the live experience phish puts on and i have seen them all. 4 they play together listen to each other and feed off the crowd. Go to a show or 10 b4 you make ignorant statements like that. I write for a large music mag and trust me phis is by far the best jam band to ever live. I lived thru the dead the allmand bros and nothing compares to the live show Chuck Brown couldnt keep up with phish on his best day you really need to get over the fact that a band you dont like rocks so many people
Kyle, if you are a writer then thank god for editors!
You're a music critic, with statements like "they play together listen to each other and feed off the crowd"? Wow, thats some awesome band that does all that. Do they chew gum while they do it?
Why exactly do I need to get over the fact that I wonder why the masses prefer blandness? That's been happening since ancient times.
I don't do drugs and I love Phish. I guess I love that they are freakishly intelligent, classically trained musicians. There are people who are attend shows for the "scene", but there are many people who attend because their music journeys and changes with time and environment. Most modern, popular musicians aren't complex enough to have that.
Just as we can look back at great artists and point to "periods" in their artistic lives (from Bob Dylan to Picasso), we can already look at Phish's history and see periods. It's pretty exciting to think about...during this tour, many have said they recognize a return to "Type 2" improvisation that characterized part of the 90s.
Do I think about all this during a show? Hell no. I'm just enjoying the ride and all of its twists and turns while trying not to pay too much attention to a few of the morons who overindulge.
But hey, some people like their music in 4 minute, digestible bites that don't challenge them. Some people don't like songs without words and therefore can't get into a lot of music (from Phish to jazz to classical). Some people need lyrics to make complete sense and don't see the voice as an instrument (I think Zappa as a great example of someone who used voice/lyrics as another instrument, but Phish could be seen in the same light). You don't have to like them. If you are a musician, though, you should be able to listen to the band and recognize that they are extremely talented musicians.
Lalala Perfect exactly what people need to understand well dont need to but you are exactly right. To each their own and if they dont want to experience something new then that is ok too. You took the words right out of my mouth
Kyle You are exactly right the person that thinks the meters and p funk are a jam band are morons but it is their opinion if they think a 5 minute song that sounds just like the cd is a jame
To think that the Meters Jam they are great but Jam? and P funk should have a following as big as phish. I have seen them 4 times and all 4 shows were almost exactly the same good luck to those who think that they are just close minded but it is ok we dont want them at phish shows anyway bc they are just taking my ticket
Listener you are an A hole. First of all real fans NEVER PAY MORE THAN FACE VALUE. I paid exactly $27 for my albany show which is half of what is was worth. If you are into scalping you will end up in Jail. That is something else you dont understand about real fans we are smart much smarter than you. My friend works for ticketsnow and they ate more than half of their inventory last tour. When you do sell your ticket for double the price you are just ripping off some kid that worked super hard to see their fav band. You will be in hell that is for sure. Hope you enjoy being the douche that you are. Me and my friends have never paid more than face for any band and if we couldnt find a tick we just didnt go bc supporting people like you is exactly what is wrong with the economy. Why dont you pick up a book and get some knowledge maybe the helping friendly book read the book but you are way to dumb can you even read? Way to rip people off bro its called karma when you want to see Metalica I hope you pay $100 plus wait they charge that anyway while phish charges for ALL seats 49.50 whether 1st or last row you my friend are a moron. I bet you have no friends. Ok I have a deadline on Joe perry. Keep scalping and karma will bite you in the butt
If you havent noticed you are way out numbered her Listener. Go back to you moms basement listen to the beach boys and leave us alone. You are not welcome here especially if you scalp. Oh and it is obvious that your drug use has really clouded your sense of judgement because you have no clue about kindness, music, or live shows. If all you have in life is to post negative blogs go get your taco bell uniform and work the midnight shift because that is all you are god for. You make this country worse in every way. Scalping way to ruin everyones good time. Oh and these guys are all right p funk is great but if they jam then so does my grandmother!
Boyd Tinsley is supposed to be classically trained, but he's freaking god awful as a fiddler. Down Boy Down and the Boyd Tinsley Band were practically unlistenable and he still hasn't gotten any better, but jam band fan boys don't even seem to notice that. Damn, if classically trained is all it takes, then you guys must love Iron Maiden and Yngwie Malmstein.
Phish: you either get it or you don't. For those that don't, I feel sorry for you.
@tellgend it certainly is not all about drugs I have seen phish over 70 times and never have I done any kind of drug. I am straight edge and so are a lot of fans. So yes a lot of fans go for the scene but I would say even more go for the improv and wonderful unexpected music that is phish. They cross genres they do more than guitar solo I have a feeling that the people that think it is all about guitar and drugs have never seen a show but your opinion is welcome. Just dont scalp your ticket miracle or sell it for face value. I love you all back to Joe Perry and my deadline. Go see Aerosmith if you want to see a bad show. They had their day but drugs have all but killed steven tyler
I think when phans say community they mean exactly what 1stowcenter said. 80k people in the florida everglades waiting in line for 20 hrs and not getting mad about it. Actually what happens is people start to talk and gather and play music and form their own city. Right now there is no other band that could get 80k to show up for just one band. In 98 i think we were the biggest city in Maine. That is the community we fans are talking about. Not grilling in the lot b4 a show but showing love for one another as we travel from city to city giving rides money or whatever is needed so that person can make it to the next show. New fans may not understand this yet but if the band stays on the track they are on they soon will To understand phish you really have to go to a show and a festival. You will never get them by listenting in your car or at home. Todd Rundgren is a great artist and has a community but people dont follw them from city to city running into the same people at every show. You make friends in New York then you will see them in Indiana and they will greet you with warmth and love. It is hard to explain you just really have to do a tour and meet new people because the people you meet at a phish show will become your friend for life because you will see them 30 other times. best wihes to everyone happpy holidays and whether you like phish or not keep listening to livve music because it truly warms the soul. Also at a Phish show you are all welcome to check it out. I got a little mad because of the person that was talking about scalping. there s no place for that and that is why tickets have skyrocketed in recent years. If we all stop bying from scalpers or stub hub or whomever then it will make music a much happier medium. Keep it real buy from phish or the person on the lot that has an extra for face. See You in Miami!!
Overheard at the Phish Show. The names have been changed to protect the geezers.
Q: What did the PhishHead say to his amigo when the weed ran out at JPJ?
A: This music sucks! JK
Saw a sticker on a Cadillac
"Jerry's dead, Phish sucks, cut my hair, Might as Well get a F***ing job"
Anyway I had a High Time living the good life, so try to remember.
"Let there be songs to fill the air."
Funny how much like Juggalos (ICP fans) Phish heads are. It's the exact same thing about "community". Scientology is a "community" most of us with any sense don't get either.
Jerry Garcia once said that the Grateful Dead's music is like black licorice, either you love it or you hate it.
I think Phish's music has a similar polarizing effect on listeners. I happen to love Phish, but I could easily see how others might feel differently. That said, it's hard not to admire Phish for their D.I.Y. ethos and uncompromising artistic vision (Phish's music is very much like punk or indie in spirit).
Georege porter is great but the sense of community is not there like you said. I have been to see him/ them many times and they just dont get the following they should. The reason phish does is because they go out on a limb every night try new things and hell even jump on mini trampolines while playin. They played chess against the crowd they have secret language this all helps to the community aspect of phish the " what is going to happen next" both theatrically and musically. Porter is great but he doesnt seem to care about community he cares about playing great tunes then going to the next gig and playing a lot of those same tunes again. Like jerry said either you love it or hate it. My girlfriend hated phish then she went to her first show this year now she cant get enough she was amazed how nice everyone was how everyone shared when it rained 5 people offered her their rain coat. You just dont see that at any old concert.
I can relate to the article above. I found drugs and alcohol way before I found Phish. I didnt discover the band until I had gotten sober 9 years ago and have attended many shows since. I wouldn't say that I've become addicted to the shows by any means, but i can appreciate how someone like me when i first found that booze and drugs did the trick could key in on the scene. Today I definately find the whole experience cathartic. I drank and drugged for oblivion. The communitas I experience at shows keeps me in the present, and I love my life today and that I can look foward to the 1 or more shows I can get to next time they are on the road. I feel particularly blessed that I can have the experience I do at shows, because I know not everyone can get down with Phish and I feel like they are missing out. Perhaps they find this experience elsewhere...I hope so.
"I used to be all messed up on drugs, then I found the lord, now I'm all messed up on the Lord"
Cheech & Chong:
(Sometime during the hazy 70's)
Regarding the scene Garcia one said
"...as far as I'm concerned, it's like I say, drugs are not the problem. Other stuff is the problem. "
That's what I saw at the Phish show @ JPJ. Just sayin
Legend, so you're saying people do Todd tour? How many? You never read any articles about the throngs of Todd fans flocking into cities. They must be very discreet.
heh heh, gotcha buddy :)
this is the worst music review i have ever read. stick to shooting photos and leave the reviews to someone else not stoned on spacecakes and sans urine stains on their underwear from their apparent over-giddiness.


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