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For discussion of the various types of hives; Langstroth, Top Bar, etc., and how to do an initial setup. Things to consider, pros and cons, such as future extracting issues and supering. Frame and foundation types.
For discussion of the various types of hives; Langstroth, Top Bar, etc., and how to do an initial setup. Things to consider, pros and cons, such as future extracting issues and supering. Frame and foundation types.
Last edited by Barry; 01-02-2009 at 01:50 PM.
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Unsure if this topic belongs, but you may want to consider getting and starting out on 8 frame equipment, and stick with it.
I use 10 frame, but I'm fairly young (43) and in great shape, no bad back or knees. A lot of older beeks advocate the 8 frame medium super, and build the brood hive 3 boxes tall.
8-frame mediums are supposedly far easier to lift and manipulate than 10 frame. Something to consider.
"...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam
for a beginner I would advise langstroth hives over top bar hives. I think they are easier to manipulate without damaging the comb. start small ( 2 hives) you will grow faster than you think. be ready for anything to give you more bees. Initial setup would be close to home, easy access, level ground to start with. build everything you can, ( just to understand what it takes to make it). consider your health age and strength when deciding on brood box size, (deep vs medium, 8 frame vs 10 frame); your patience level and finances when deciding on foundation,(wax, wired wax, duraguilt, pierco, foundationless); your comfort with bees for your basic equiptment ( gloves and veil vs full bee suit). beginners have a year before a serious honey crop, so they should have an idea if they want to continue before they need to consider honey supers. by the time they are getting ready for that, they need to consider what they are going to do for them. again consider age, health, strength, and access to the hives (shallow =35 lbs, med = 50 lbs, deeps = 90 lbs). cut comb and crush and strain use no foundation, ross rounds need a different frame, extractors are hard on unsupported wax. I know I am missing a ton of other things they need to consider, but i think this is the high lights
I have enjoyed using all mediums. It's been very nice to be able to move frames and boxes from top to bottom without having to think about it.
For those of you who are good with a saw and measurement. I started off by buying 2 medium 10 frame boxes. After making sure that they were exactly the same. I assembled one and used the other one to size up parts. I switched the type of joint on the end to rabbit joints and used tightbond 2 and screws. With the value wood at menards and a table saw I was able to make a medium for 2 dollars. After you make a box you should check it with the store bought assembled one and also put 10 frames in it to see if they fit just as good. For a hand hold I use two small wood chunks. I've really enjoyed making my own boxes and painting them all sorts of colors.
What's standard in your area? I use bottom space Nationals since everyone else round here does. Bottom space isn't ideal, but when I get secondhand gear, it's compaible with what I already have.
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I like the standard 10 frame. I think most like the finger cut or finger-lock corners the most. Does anyone like Rabbeted Hive Bodies rather than the finger-lock corners?
Still trying to work on making my own hives, but having problems with the handles.
"Where wisdom is called for, force is of little use."
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The box joint is far superior as long as you glue all the surfaces. They'll weather much better and have a lot less problems with expansion/contraction over their lifetime.
Just use cleats (1" x 2") fastened to the outside for handles. Far easier than trying to cut handles into the sides.
[QUOTE=NashBeek;398003]I like the rabbeted better, less end grain to rot and with todays glue you don't have to worry about them falling apart. I know that if you keep them painted one joint will last as long as another IMO however by some of the photos I've seen of a lot of hives painting seems to be the last thing on the agenda. QUOTE]
I think I like the finger joint, but I do have some that are rabbeted and I keep mine well painted... always have even when I started back in the 60's. I like them to look nice as well asn keep them from rottttttt. I never have used glue, ever. I like it as safe and natural for them. I don't like using plastic. After all, plastic is Petroleum, and that is not healthy for anyone. They are now showing that water in plastic is not as healthy as tap water....because of the plastic bottles. I use to buy if by the case too...
"Where wisdom is called for, force is of little use."
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Hi Eaglerock, you mention some joints that I am not familiar with. The traditionals are finger joints. I have used half bling dovetails and liked them because I don't like end wood exposed. Now I am using Miter Lock joints that have no end wood exposure at all and seem to me to be the strongest. I use TiteBondIII glue and find there is very little exposure of the glue to areas where the bees can get to. Finger Joints on the table saw are a bit dangerous to me and if there is just a little variation in the spacing the corners don't match up. But then again, it's just my opinion. Take care and have fun
http://www.millerbeesupply.com/Page8 This is the rabbeted joine I was talking about. Finger joints are easily done on a table saw by making a jig.
"Where wisdom is called for, force is of little use."
Herodotus (circa 485-425 BC), Greek Historian
I too make all my own Hives I perfere the box joints it is easy to square up
and for cutting hand holes in the box that is not a problem just make a mark on the saw fence in line with arbor and make marks on the inside of hive in center with small square then place a mark on each side of center then set hive on saw with first mark with mark on saw fence and push to end marks and lift off all cut are madewith dado blade if slot is not big enough just move fence on way or the other after all cut have been made one time
I'm using all 10 frame equipment, when I get older or sore,I will put a piece of1 inch high density styrofoam in place of the #1 and #10 frames, even a little extra insulation. In our club everyone uses 10 frame , boxes are donated to the club , covers bottoms , its all 10 frame..
I'm not tense, Just terribly, terribly alert!
So if you are starting out is it better to learn on a TBH or Langstroth?
I worked (minimally) with bees many years ago and am getting back into it this year. I'm in the middle of a 12 week beekeeping course run by the Western Maine Beekeeper's association and strongly recommend such a course for other new beekeepers.
I am also interested in the simplicity of top bar hives but I'll be starting again with one Langstroth hive. There are a number of reasons for this. I have a little experience with that type. The course I'm taking revolves around it. The members of the association are all using those hives and those are the folks I will need to help me out in a pinch. That hive can be a source of bees for a new top bar hive. And the Langstroth is a reliable type of hive for over-wintering in the frigid north.
In short, I need to get myself back up to speed in the usual method of beekeeping before I decide another method is "better for the bees" as you say.
There are beekeepers using top bar hives successfully in the north. There are also beeks using top bars in Langstroth hives, a method I will be trying also. Also small-cell foundation in frames. There are many ways to keep bees naturally and I would be mistaken if I thought I had the knowledge to say which one is better for the bees without having the experience of trying them all or a means of comparison. (I've read a lot about TB hives and a lot makes good sense to me but before I commit to any "ideology," I need a bit experience to determine its suitability.)
The hive I am starting this Spring from a nuc could possibly be split later to start a top bar hive. Or I might be lucky enough to capture a swarm. In any case, I'll have a top bar hive ready to try.
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Just my opinion. Subject to change.
Last edited by waynesgarden; 02-28-2009 at 09:57 AM.
Fair enough. I am a bit further south but it does get cold here. How is extraction done with TBH or is it all pretty much comb for sale?
while i certainly see the advantages of the mediums (weight and interchangeability) i wonder what people think about how to deal with getting nucs - as they seem to be primarily raised in deeps.
are there other equipment issues that i will run into if i have no deeps in my hives? things like "drone frames" or anything else that might only come in deep?
i have even seen it setups of 1 deep sandwiched between 2 mediums (in the Ross Conrad book Natural Beekeeping: Organic Approaches to Modern Apiculture)
thanks in advance for any thoughts


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But I would be in hysterics for a YEAR. 1 likes Carol Bisig May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House 0 likes Reply Doreen May 2, 2017 Pineapple Stormbound sounds more intriguing!! My mom never treats herself, so I usually do a home made gift basket with her favorite (expensive) cheese, gourmet crackers, coffee and a beautiful new coffee cup. I line the basket with a new kitchen towel. And maybe throw in a few of her favorite chocolates. 0 likes Carol Bisig May 2, 2017 I think a Coolair big hat, to keep the sun off, and s beautiful scarf, from the same online store. They are Spf fifty! No, I don't work anywhere. I bought myself one of each, and love them. They are not for older women, they are hip! 0 likes Reply TIm May 2, 2017 Hurricane Pineapple has a nice ring to it. 0 likes Reply Deborah Mullins May 2, 2017 well for the book I like Pineapple Beach house. For mothers day make her beautiful colored roses (if she is not allergic). There are do it yourself videos that show you how to do this as a personal touch. I subscribe to DIY they have amazing ideas and fun, easy and also affordable projects. You should check them out because as a mother and a daughter it is all in knowing your mom that is the secret to a great gift. My daughter gets me different colored pebbled stones because i love to put them in a bowl and just dig my hands gently thru to relieve stress or to think so this might also be something your mom could enjoy. Its not the cost simply the thought and love that makes gifts special. Ill take a cleaned stone form a rock pile over a dozen roses any day. Ill try to send you a link. Good luck and have a great day. 0 likes Reply Maria Rita Donnelly May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beachhouse sounds good. For Mother's Day how about seeds for her garden or small herb plants she can plant ne use. 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Maybe get your Mom a new Kindle or another gadget she's had her eye one. I just love electronic things. 0 likes Reply Amy Vansant May 2, 2017 My dad would steal anything with a plug. 0 likes Reply Cheryllynn May 2, 2017 For your new story, I really like Pineapple Stormbound or even Stormy Pineapple Beach House For your mom, maybe try something from Wine Country Gift Baskets… they have tons of choices and sure to have at least one your mom will love – and they aren't that expensive (unless you let them be). My two cents. 🙂 1 likes Reply Amy Vansant May 2, 2017 My mom is JUST turning into the drinker I always knew she could be (You go girl!) 0 likes Reply Susan May 2, 2017 Pineapple snowbound title for the book, maybe a title for a new book will be pineapple upside down murder? One year I gave my mother a stained glass Suncatcher of an Angel with a harp that I made. Maybe you can get her something like that who is that symbolizes something that she loves Lake angels, flowers, or unicorns. 0 likes Reply Amy Vansant May 2, 2017 OMG, you're so right. I need an upside down dead person so I can call the book that!! 0 likes Reply Marsha May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House would be my choice (If Pineapple Perfect Storm is off the table.) And for Mom's day, my son sends me roses every year, no matter where he is stationed. And my Daughter-In-Love sends me photo things with shots that I haven't seen before. She lets the grands go to shutterfly and make me picture stuff. It is awesome! 0 likes Reply cody smith-candelaria May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Beach House for the title. For Mother's day, we are going to take my mom to a paint and wine class. 0 likes Reply Becca Z May 2, 2017 I love the Pineapple Beach House title! My mom loves when I get her a bulk supply of something she loves that is a little more expensive….such as this luxe organic shampoo and conditioner she likes, or really high quality maple syrup, the kind aged in bourbon barrels, or her organic truffle salt. Otherwise she loves the pedicure and massage gift cards. 0 likes Reply Dianne May 2, 2017 Your Mum probably cares more about spending time with you than stuff. My Mum hates us spending money on her, but loves if I win her something. So she will be receiving a "Mummy" candle that I won her. The other option is check out the freecyling internet sites in your are for anything you can collect and customise for her. Or a last resort is a great photo of you that she can put up on the wall and show off to her friends – don't need to win the lottery, but might have to invest some time for these ideas. Good luck. Pineapple Beach Shack would be my suggestion. 0 likes Reply Dianne May 2, 2017 Another idea is do some baking with your Mum and drop off the results to the local hospital for the women and children who don't have anyone to visit on Mothers Day. 0 likes Reply Antonette Nyman May 2, 2017 How about Tempest in a Pineapple. For Mother's Day I know I would love a day with just my daughter doing girly, relaxing things. Time is precious. 1 likes Reply Linda Moffitt May 2, 2017 I Say Beach House it fits with the light hearted cozy mystery titles of your other books or Pineapple Beach Storm cause that sorta says it all LOL *Gift for Mom either a day away for you two (If possible) to the spa and lunch something like that Or whatever she likes to do even if you don't LOL Movie and Dinner Amusement Park to ride the BIG Coasters LOL * Or Find a pic of you and her holding you when you were a baby (For one side of the frame) and one of you and her dancing at your wedding or You, Her and any of your babies (If you have kids) or just a nice pic of you two now or not too long ago (for the other side of the frame) and if you can find a 3 pic frame then you write a little poem (If you can't write poems and only books go cheat and just take a bunch of parts of other poems and some of your own words and make one up) about how She will always be your mom and you will always need her even though you are grown up and/or a Mom yourself If you do that Pic/poem thing Have a Camera/Camcorder ready 🙂 I did it to my Mom (My poem was about how she was my Mother/Father though and that even though I was a Grown Up and had just gotten married I'd always be her baby) I also got her an Orange Hunting Cap that year for her to wear when walking her dogs in the woods and I have a pic of her Bawling her eyes out in her Orange Cap and I LOVE it especially since she is now gone 0 likes Reply Judy Ambrose May 2, 2017 I like the stormbound title. For Mother's Day, how about a day at a spa for the two of you followed by a wine tasting? 1 likes Reply ana May 2, 2017 i like stormbound. or how bout flipflopped by the storm or storming the sandcastle? for mothersday how bout taking a family vaycay to hershey, pa and doing a tour and going to the hershey theme park or pampering her by hiring a maid for a day or writing a book that stars your mom? 1 likes Reply Val May 2, 2017 Of the two I'd pick pineapple stormbound or how about " Any Pineappple in a Storm". I know most people think gift cards are impersonal but the right one can be fun. If your mom likes to make things or take classes a Craftsy gift card might work. You could both take a class and do the same project together. Or if she likes clothes but hates to shop A Stichfix gift card. You could help her with her clothes profile and it's a surprise in a box! 1 likes Reply Melody Margrave May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House Give Mom a day. In other words, spend a day with her doing whatever she wants to do. Your treat of course – you could offer her some choices, depending on what your Mom likes – working with her in the garden, a SPA day, going to the movies, trying out a new restaurant, going to the beach (without the storm). My Mom is in a nursing home, so for her birthday this week, I packed up the good china, cooked her favorite meal and packed it in coolers. We surprised her at the nursing home. I set the table in their conference room and we had a nice quiet dinner together. 1 likes Reply Diana Blick May 2, 2017 My mom is easy to buy for. I got her a kindle one Christmas and now an Amazon gift card makes every holiday a breeze. But back before the kindle brainstorm, it was harder and I had to consider her likes and hobbies. She loves birds, so a hummingbird feeder was a natural, and a crystal hummingbird and a clock that made bird sounds were gifts at different times. Basically, I'm saying that avoiding generic things like chocolate and flowers and getting something more personal to your mom is the best idea. For my mom, it was reading and birds. You know your own mom best, and if you think in that way, you will come up with something fabulous. 0 likes Reply Linda May 2, 2017 Pineapple Togetherness – this about covers everything. 0 likes Reply Shannon May 2, 2017 Mother's Day-Mani/Pedi is a gift I enjoy receiving. If you're thinking decadent, a gift certificate to a restaurant with glorious desserts would be a nice treat especially if you go with her. Book title- I love the word beach so anytime you can use it, I think it's perfect! 1 likes Reply Lisa May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Stormbound 1 likes Reply Valjandra May 2, 2017 Both titles are good but I think Pineapple Stormbound fits better as it lets you in on a bit of the plot; Pineapple Beach House could mean anything. My mother's favorite tv show is ending so I've been getting her the seasons so she can watch it again whenever she chooses. I believe the show was important to her because it was something she and my brother shared; we lost him to cancer a couple of years ago. 3 likes Reply Rachel Hilton May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Beach House. I agree with what others have said. The best gift you could probably give your mother is spending time with her. Do something that you know she'd enjoy (but won't do for one reason or another – won't spend the money, waste of time, etc – and surprise her by arranging for her to do it while with you. You only have one mother and when they're gone you don't want to regret never having spent enough time with her. Good luck. 0 likes Reply Kathleen Garley May 2, 2017 I like the Pineapple Beach House. Hummm… What to do for Mother's Day??? How about a nice meal with no cooking or cleaning up for mom and spend the day with her. Wish mine was still alive and well as she passed away in April of 2006. 1 likes Reply Angela Cassidy May 2, 2017 How about Pineapple Peril? 0 likes Reply Jenny May 2, 2017 How about Pineapple Tides? 0 likes Reply Lynn Galyean May 2, 2017 BOOKS! I always got mine books when she was alive. She said she always got a vacation at the same time so it was like 2 gifts in one. I knew her preference in books but always looked for an author she hadn't read yet and that I thought she might like. 0 likes Reply Angela Cassidy May 2, 2017 What to get Mom for Mother's Day? — I'm going simple this year with gift cards. We also usually go out for a dinner between Mother's Day and the 18th which is her birthday. So, … Nail kit set. Buy a nice toiletry bag or such, and fill it with nail accessories. (Nail files, clippers, buffers, polish, polish remover, etc..) My sister has gotten my mom gift certificates to nail salons. Another suggestion is a massage (back,foot). Mom likes to read so we get her new books by her favorite authors. Buy her a hair cut or style. It may sound strange, but with a tight budget my parents have cut down on meat. Groceries are not a bad idea. How about a nice roast? 0 likes Reply Patty Wilderman May 2, 2017 I will be the odd ball out but I like the title Pineapple Stormbound, but here's another one for you ….Pineapple No Access. It is catchy and sticks to the limited access theme you have going in the book. As for Mother's Day Gifts…try and have a photo collage blanket made. They can be made at walmart online or in the store. It is easy, cute and personable. https://photos3.walmart.com/about/blankets?adid=22222222220130316436&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=168030948365&wl4=kwd-54637220981&wl5=9010378&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&veh=sem 0 likes Reply kim May 2, 2017 Pineapple stormbound. Tho think just pineapple surf better…lol Well there you go! 0 likes Reply Wilma Lou May 2, 2017 For Mothers Day I am finding the older I get and the older my mom gets it is no longer about gifts. It is the time spent with one another. . If you live close just sitting down and talking and maybe bring lunch. If she lives far away a nice long telephone conversation is great. Mothers Day isn't always about giving. Sometimes it is just the time you take to sit down and listen. I don't think that there are to many moms that don't like to sit down and just talk about years past. I am amazed at the things that I thought I knew about my mother and her family but I am now learning that there are so many interesting things that I did not know. 0 likes Reply Elizabeth Robb May 2, 2017 I prefer Pineapple Stormbound. For your mom, a visit from a housecleaning service. I'm sure she deserves a day off! 0 likes Reply Evonne Hutton May 2, 2017 I used that one once! With my mother it went down like a lead balloon 🙁 0 likes Reply CG Phillips May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Storm but Stormbound is also good. For Mother's Day – would you mom like a fitness tracker? Or perhaps a wearable device that helps you relax, especially when you're feeling stressful (Spire). Another idea would be to gather some of her favorite t-shirts that she doesn't wear anymore (or that she's just collected to remind her of….) and have those made into a wall hanging or quilt. You could include some from other family members. Of course this would probably be for next year since it does take some planning. LOL 0 likes Reply jeri dickinson May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Beach House Does she collect anything? I collect frogs so everybody knows what to get me. Is she a t shirt person something funny on it 0 likes Reply Joye May 2, 2017 I like the Stormbound title best. 0 likes Reply Silva Presler May 2, 2017 How about "Pineapple Port for Mother's Day"? 0 likes Reply Linda Farabaugh May 2, 2017 Perils at Pineapple Beach House. I get my mom bookmarks for Mother's Day. For the books she reads. Go out to dinner. 0 likes Reply Kathy May 2, 2017 I would add an "ed" and make it Pineapple Beached House. That's what it calls when you're trapped on a beach, isn't it? It kind of piques one's curiosity. I had some thoughts for a gift, but you've received so many ideas already! 2 likes Reply Evonne Hutton May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House! Mothers Day My mother loved roses so I used to give her a rose bush for her garden Idea….Write to her what she means to you, add some photos, laminate and there you go. Something unique and affordable 0 likes Reply Margaret S May 2, 2017 Pineapple Castaways for the book Title Mother's Gift – Does she sit and read or do knitting etc. Cushions, Footstool (possibly with storage plus as we get older we sometimes need to elivate our feet), Throw (for cooler weather), Small table. Generally things for added comfort. 0 likes Reply Heidi Farmer May 2, 2017 Pineapple Stormbound, that is more descriptive of the story. As for gifts, I find that food always and sometimes plants or plant related. It seems she may like alcohol. I read 3 great romance books that the family business was making bourbon, they had a gift shop and I cannot stop thinking about all the goodies they sold in the shop: bourbon syrup for ice cream, bourbon-pumkin pie, cookies, truffles with bourbon. I am still drooling thinking about all those goodies. Cannot go wrong with food and alcohol. 1 likes Reply Ed May 2, 2017 I think Pineapple Stormbound will attract more readers. I think my mom's favorite gifts she's received over the years include: – restored set of old family photos, some from her childhood – chef cooked dinner for the family in her kitchen – cashmere slippers 0 likes Reply Donna Wolz May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Beach House. I've got an eclectic mix of items for Mom this year: a travel bag from Thirty-One; a St Louis Cardinals license plate, car decal, & key ring; plus, a mouse pad with a beautiful cardinal sitting among cherry blossoms. (She collects cardinals and is a huge Cards fan.) Plus a card. 0 likes Reply Betty Aslin May 2, 2017 As a mum I like nothing better than the whole family getting together and going on an outing somewhere that we have not been since my children were little so that we an see the grandchildren's reaction and relive old memories. At my age I do not need dishes, plants or knick knacks just family closeness. I think Pineapple Stormbound is the better one but then again it is does not hold mystery so why not something like "The Storm clouds of Pineapple Vacation" 0 likes Reply Vanessa May 2, 2017 I prefer Pineapple Stormbound also. 0 likes Reply Francina May 2, 2017 Not sure if I have any original suggestions for the title but some of the others sound really good! For the mother's day gift set up a "pamper her" day. Spa like treatments and then a home cooked meal (with clean up afterwards done too). Or a meal out kinda like a date night for her and her special someone. 0 likes Reply Teri May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House 0 likes Reply Teri May 2, 2017 As far as Mother's Day, A certificate for a gourmet meal cooked for her and a guest, in her home, once a month for a year 0 likes Reply Wendy Adams May 2, 2017 Pineapple beach house. For mother's day I would suggest spending the day doing one of her favorite things. Or you could just spend the day together just the two of you. 0 likes Reply Martha Henderson May 2, 2017 Pineapple Beach House Or Pineapple Castaway Pineapple on the Rocks (with a little twist) 0 likes Reply Lynn May 2, 2017 I like Cheryllynn's name for the book or here is close The Saga of the Stormy Beach House.. Ok, as for Mother's day. If not wine- then how about something like Tea Forte? They make the best tea I have ever had. And it can be as small or as expensive as you wish. I got a $50.00 box for Christmas one year. I was in heaven all year!.. What else? Do they like to eat out? A Gift card for their fav restaurant? OR your fave? Or maybe passes for a few movies for them? Mom's day gift from like one of those pamper me places? The ones with the fave massages? That's the last idea from me.. 🙂 0 likes Reply Jo K. May 2, 2017 How about Pineapple on the Rocks? Actually Beach House describes the book from the sound of things. As a Mother, I would like a gift certificate for a message! 0 likes Reply Karen May 2, 2017 Since you say they're stranded, I like "Pineapple Stranded." Then it wouldn't make a difference as to what time of year. Since you're a writer, I think your mom would be really touched if you wrote a long poem about all the reasons you hold her so dear, including memories you have of her or the two of you together that you hold dear, including all the fun, silly and frantic, as well as the times she had to put you in your place. You could get it professionally printed and framed because I know she would want all to see. That wouldn't be too expensive, but you'd need to stop everything to get it done, which I think would make it even more special to her because she would know that you'd had to do that. I thought a day at the spa together would be a good idea, too, but that would cost more than those $300 sheets. If she does like a good massage by a sexy man, you could book one with a specific masseur and give her a certificate with the poem. You could get manicures together and treat her to a special lunch, or you, yourself, could cook her favorite meal and take her to a special spot of nature to surprise her. Get her theatre tickets or take her if she enjoys plays. It's not easy to make suggestions when you know nothing about her personality or her likes and dislikes. All I can is just find a way to tell or show her just how special she really is to you. Sometimes it's the simple things that mean the most. Don't take any day for granted that you'll still have her the next day. I lost my mom nearly 14 years ago at the young age of 76. I loved her unequivocally. (My dad, a complete narcissist, died at the age of 90.) Who would I rather have had the time with?? Just show her and give her all the love you can. That means more than anything money can buy. 1 likes Reply Deb G. May 2, 2017 I like Pineapple Beach House, Stormbound (why not both?) Right now I can't remember a single Mother's Day gift I gave my Mom. I lost her two & a half years ago and all I wish is that I had another day with her, any day! She was the most amazing woman I've ever known & I am so very blessed to have had her as my Mom!!! Her birthday would have been about a week after Mother's Day….not my favorite time of the year. 0 likes Reply Gladys Paradowski May 2, 2017 How about: Surf Stuck at Pineapple Port or Pineapple Port Surf Stuck Could your mom use a chair for her lawn or a new pillow either for her bed or her couch? Or some bright-colored panties? 0 likes Reply Sherry May 2, 2017 Pineapple… Stormbound, beach house or Strombound Pineapple Beach House Mum… No idea! Sorry 0 likes Reply Sab Edwards May 3, 2017 crazy people dislike flowers…man send the flowers to me, I'll adopt you and all that stuff…. shit, buy her a freaking fruit tree and plant it, go visit her and eat all the fruit off the tree…. LOL..my daughter graduated from her second year at college and bought me a rose bush so that I can instragram pics of it to her to prove I don't always kill stuff. 0 likes Reply Kathy May 3, 2017 Of the 2 titles, I prefer Stormbound, although Pineapple Hurricane could be cool. Heck, New Orleans has the famous Hurricane at Pat O'Brien's, so why not a newctwist on a classic? As for the gift, if she likes good candles (an assumption on my part, of course), how about a diffuser and a starter set of essential oils? Looking forward to the new book and beyond… ☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★ 0 likes Reply Donner May 3, 2017 Pineapple Beached House…definitely! Implies being stranded. And a set of patio plates the melamine ones you serve ho dos or dessert on…with pineapple design on them. It's the international symbol of hospitality. Plus she can help market the book! 0 likes Reply Donner May 3, 2017 Amazon has fancy pineapple plates and bowls and napkins. Who doesn't like a theme party and pineapple/rum drinks? 0 likes Reply Donner May 3, 2017 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DM5IPMK/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1493787219&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pineapple+plates&dpPl=1&dpID=51yX-sQ6qLL&ref=plSrch 0 likes Reply Christine Lowe May 3, 2017 To be honest (you know this could be bad, right?) I'm not liking either name too much. How about Pineapple Punch? That could mean a lot of things. I can't believe I'm saying this to you. You know I love your books since I've reviewed every one I've read. Whatever you call it, i will enjoy reading it. 0 likes Reply Sharon Leach May 3, 2017 Pineapple Stormbound. For Mother's Day a pretty basket of various items that she likes. Anything from seed packets to flavored coffee or tea to anything Hershey. Books, magazines, yarns, candles, whatever she likes. 1 likes Reply Sally-Jo Walker May 3, 2017 My mom enjoyed the mani/pedi we gave her one Mother"s Day. 😊 1 likes Reply Toni Whitmire May 3, 2017 Pineapple SnowBound email@example.com. 0 likes Reply Jeni P May 3, 2017 I always like shutterfly. You can make her a blanket with cute photos, or I made my mon a phone case (that's surprisingly durable and hardy!) a couple years ago with all my nephews (her grandsons) and my fur babies (her grand-fur-babies?). Anyways, that way at least you can be creative and give her something that she will cherish without being tacky. And if she isn't the sentimental type, there is always the martini/margarita/booze picnic basket where you basically put all the fixins' you need to make some great drinks together in a basket and boom! done! party time with mama!!! And I like Pineapple Beached or Pineapple Tropical Storm or Storm on Pineapple Beach 0 likes Reply Anna S. May 3, 2017 Pineapple Breeze. Storm? Nah, just a Pineapple Breeze 😉 0 likes Reply Saki AB May 3, 2017 Hi, Amy! I really like how you write this blog, I cannot wait to read your new book whatever the title is going to be. Anyway, about the book title. As a reader myself, I like "Pineapple Beach House". Why? Because the summer is around the corner and yes I agree with your comment of attracting people this summer. I'll pick up your book for summer reading, why not. But either way, since I know you are the author of the book so I'll pick even the title is "Pineapple Stormbound"! About your mother's day gift idea or inspiration, I don't know your mom well so it's hard to answer. I usually send ( I live far from her )my mom carnations along with some sweets, every year is different color so a little bit of surprise. But I send unique gifts for her birthday & christmas. I hope it help you a bit. 0 likes Reply Sally Gideon May 3, 2017 Pineapple Upside Down. As you can see I have a sense of humor. 1 likes Reply Janet Graham (GranJan on Amazon) May 3, 2017 Hurricane House Guests? A gift that my mom loved was a scrap album my sister gave her of the family across the years. I used to bring a flat of plants over and plant her annual flower bed for her. I've told my kids that story, but they haven't gotten the hint. At 93, what my mom enjoys most is just time with her kids, grand kids and great grand kids! 0 likes Reply Debi Rumph May 3, 2017 Hi Amy! I would call your book, "Pineapple Stormbound Retreat, " but I have to choose one of the titles you suggested. Therefore, I will have to say, "Pineapple Stormbound." Thank you! Have a spectacular day! 0 likes Reply Janet Estridge May 3, 2017 What about "The Pineapple Express"? Since they are stuck in a storm. 0 likes Reply Lynnette Mohr May 3, 2017 How about The Pineapple Express? We on the west coast had a dreadful storm, worst in years and that is what they called it.. the Pineapple Express..Seems like it would fit nicely. as for mum… I am getting mine a lilac bush, she loves them and hasn't one in her garden. I have also gotten, all the typical things, but she loves those things we made over anything expensive. 0 likes Reply Jan B May 3, 2017 Stormbound is the one I like. How about giving your Mom a spa day for the 2 of you to enjoy together. 1 likes Reply Sheila Taylor Nixon May 3, 2017 I prefer the title Pineapple Storm 0 likes Reply Jo May 3, 2017 Pineapple Tempest And magazine subscriptions. Can't go wrong. And she loves you all year 🙂 0 likes Reply Sherri May 4, 2017 I prefer Pineapple Beach House (or Pineapple Stranded or In the Eye of the Pineapple -are they called "eyes" where the prickly parts are? – like eye of the storm. Lots of great ideas already for gifts – it's great you are thinking of her, that's what's important. 0 likes Reply John May 4, 2017 Pineapple Stormbound is the better of the two. My own choice would be Tropical Storm Pineapple. For Mother's Day, the best gift is always time. I don't know what you two usually do together, but something like a spa/salon afternoon, with just the two of you, or a day trip to a quaint village or a casino, or someplace she enjoys. The idea is to take the time to do something together. 0 likes Reply Dianne May 5, 2017 I would name it "Stranded in Pineapple Beach" This title covers both the place and the situation. 0 likes Reply Diane May 6, 2017 Pineapple Beached is my choice for the book title. A suggestion for your Mother's day gift is one my son and daughter-in-law gave to me … a gift certificate to a Mystery Dinner Theater. I haven't used it yet, but I am looking forward to driving into Atlanta and having a jolly good time. 0 likes Reply Sheila West May 7, 2017 Beached Pineapple sounds interesting and a little funny. Mom gift – spa time and a good book! 0 likes Reply KIMBERLY-AISHA HASHMI May 9, 2017 Okay… MY TURN and input…. as for the name of book 5, I like STORMED IN….. I cannot wait to read it, no matter what the title though, lol! As for mothers day gifts, this is what *I* am doing for my mom this year. She is in late stages of Alzheimer but that is no reason for ME to forget or to slack, 🙂 First of all, I went to the dollar store in my area. They have an AMAZING assortment of candles, all shapes, sizes and scents, and I got 10, different sizes and scents, one was even in the shape of a cute little wedding cake! Then, I went through the store for ideas, and found a cute little turbo-twisty towel for her head, and a great loofah, a pair of cute little manicure toe separators, 3 bottles of nail polish, 5 bottles of her favorite knock off perfume and then headed to Walmart, I got a cute basket to hold all the things then headed to the coffee isle and got three boxes of instant Starbucks coffee, 3 boxes of microwavable popcorn including, YUMMMMMM, caramel, which I was unaware of until today, and then a couple boxes of her favorite candy, the little theater sized boxes, at a dollar each, and then found a shirt with a cute saying on it, a nightgown with Betty Boop and another with Garfield, both her favorites, a coffee mug with Texas on the side, as that is where I live and she is in Oklahoma, a really luxurious feeling set of slippers, a beautiful Mothers day card and I wrote inside the mushy stuff as well as a little side note saying that we were going to have a girls might IN, and I owed her a maini/pedi, facial and wanted to have popcorn and coffee while we re-watched some of her favorite movies, one of which ironically is The Notebook, it puts us both in tears every time, so I got a copy of that and out it in the basket for her as well. It cost me right at 85 bucks or so, but the thought I put into it, all Moms favorite things that mean something to BOTH of us, will make her cry, therefore make me cry. It is not the money it is the love and the thought. I hope my idea isnt corny or stupid to all of you, lol 0 likes Reply Leave a Reply to Sally Gideon Cancel ReplyYour email address will not be published.CommentName* Email* Website Add me to Amy Vansant's Humor Newsletter!


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The Occupy Wall Street kids are protesting corporate greed on Wall Street – evil bankers and whatnot. They also love President Obama, and think he's doing a fine job in office. Shhh! No one tell them that Wall Street donated twice as much money to Barack Obama's presidential campaign in 2008 as it did to John McCain's. It might shatter their fragile illusions.
Seriously, these people are clueless. They call themselves the 99%, as in the 99% of Americans that supposedly agree with them and their ridiculous "demands." Right. Small gatherings of unwashed white college students camping out day and night is indicative of the political environment in the United States right now. That must be why the GOP dominated the 2010 election across the nation.
Some commentators have likened Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party. That's quite the stretch, considering the two groups have zilch in common. The Tea Party says, "Leave us alone," while Occupy Wall Street cries, 'Take care of us!"
It sucks to be drowning in debt for a college degree that isn't actually a magic ticket to a dream job. Or when house payments go up because someone didn't understand what an adjustable rate mortgage was when they put 0% down on a house they qualified for thanks to some clever accounting. Or when you have to move into your mom's basement with the cats.
But that's life. No one can control what happens to him or her, but everyone can control his or her reactions to life's curve balls. The Tea Party people show up for rallies on weekends and evenings, because they're busy working, taking care of their families, or pounding the job-searching pavement during the day. They don't set up camp at city hall and refuse to budge until the minimum wage is $20 per hour, regardless of employment status.
In over two years of existence, the people of the Tea Party movement have not been responsible for anything more violent than mailing bags of Lipton to Congress. The Wall Street goons attacked the police.
The press and Liberal leaders in Congress have vilified the Tea Party. Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi called the movement Astroturf. Senator Barbara Boxer called us an angry mob. Vice President Biden stooped so low as to liken us to terrorists. What do these same people have to say about the Wall Street crowd? Ms. Pelosi says, "God bless them."
God bless them? They are sitting around on their hineys, demanding to be taken care of on the taxpayers' dime, threatening and actually attacking the police, and generally whining about life, and all Nancy Pelosi has to say is, "God bless them"?
All I have to say to the Occupy Wall Street hooligans and the democratic leaders that support them: Keep it up. Elections are only 13 months away.
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We are having intermittent slow laptop and desktop logons for users across our estate. Citrix users using a server 2008 desktop are unaffected. When I drill into the Group Policy event logs it is clear that it is the Group Policy Printers Extension policy
processing which is taking the longest time to process, sometimes up to half an hour! The printers are mapped using item level targeting against AD groups so printers are mapped to users depending on what groups they are in. In the GPO they are under User
Configuration - Preferences - Windows Settings - Control Panel Settings - Printers. I have tried some of the tick boxes on the item level targeting ("Stop processing items in this extension if an error occurs" and "Apply once and
do not reapply") in the hope that this would fix the issue but it hasn't helped. I have tried every hotfix I can find to correct Group Policy application issues none of which make any difference.
Can anyone think of anything I can do here?? Some users are getting half an hour logons which is completely unacceptable.
Are there any ports that Printers Extension Processing Uses I should check?
Is there anything I can do to the way the printers are mapped to help this? If I map using User Configuration - Policies - Windows Settings - Deployed Printers instead of the above are these deployed in a different way?
If I remove users from all printer groups Group Policy Printers Extension processing seems to still apply. Is there anyway I can disable this and just map the printers locally for the Users?
If you can help with any of the above questions please reply.
Thanks for your help.
I'm not sure whether you have applied this hotfix, but would like to share it here with you.
You experience a long domain logon time in Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 after you deploy Group Policy preferences to the computer
And what is the "Action" of the printers, change all of the printer mappings in GPP to "Update", for some users, this successfully solved the slow logon issue.
If a printer item is set to "replace," it will re-install the printer driver every time it runs. It will take long time when logon
You can refer to this blog (pay attention to this part :Group Policy Preferences)
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The Census results aren't in yet, of course, but it seems likely that Queens, N.Y., will retain its distinction as the nation's most diverse county, an urban melting pot where some 170 languages are spoken.
The New York City borough also is home, at least in the comics and movies, to Peter Parker, better known as the Amazing Spider-Man.
Queens' status as a multi-cultural center seems worth noting as a fascinating debate over the Webslinger's cinematic fate plays out on the Web. Some fans are pushing for producers to consider casting a non-white actor as the star of the planned Spider-Man movie series reboot.
It's an amazing idea: The appeal of Spider-Man, after all, never rested in his race but in his relatability.
Spidey swung into the popular culture in the mid-1960s, at a time of upheaval in society and in the world of comics. After giving us the bickering Fantastic Four, Stan Lee forever shattered the mold of the near-infallible and invariably noble superhero (think old-school Superman) with the creation of Peter Parker.
Peter was an awkward teenage outcast, plagued by everyday problems and self-doubt that didn't disappear when he slipped on his Spider-Man guise – providing us an anti-hero superhero fans have been rooting for since Amazing Fantasy No. 15.
We're still somewhat miffed and confused by the announcement earlier this year that director Sam Raimi, star Tobey Maguire and the rest of the gang were being dropped after two incredible movies and one pretty good installment.
But the decision to start fresh, with a younger director (Marc Webb of "(500) Days of Summer") – and a mandate to focus on Peter's high school days – at least represents opportunity for change. If the series is being re-imagined, that spirit of reinvention certainly should extend to casting.
Such a change would not be unprecedented in the Marvel comic-and-movie universe: Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D., who started as a white character in the comics, is embodied in the movies by Samuel L. Jackson, who played the tough-talking spy in the latest "Iron Man" installment and is expected to reprise the role in a slew of upcoming Marvel superhero flicks.
The origin story behind the push for a non-white Spider-Man is a tale to marvel. It started last week with a Hollywood Reporter post revealing five young actors said to be up for the role.
That prompted Marc Bernardin, a writer for the fanboy site io9.com, to ask why only white performers were being considered. One commenter suggested that Donald Glover, who plays goofy former high school jock Troy on NBC's "Community," would make a good Spider-Man. Glover tweeted his approval, and a Facebook page was born, quickly attracting more than 10,000 supporters.
Thus began the latest campaign by a public increasingly using Internet in a bid to impact pop-cultural creative decisions. You can blame – or credit – Betty White, whose many Facebook fans catapulted her to a successful stint hosting "Saturday Night Live" (we can see it now: a Facebook campaign calling for White to play Peter Parker's Aunt May).
The first three movies were successful, in great part, because Raimi updated the Spider-Man myth while keeping to true to the basic vision of the original comic. A bold casting move could add new levels to the Peter Parker story at a time when his best-known fan resides in the White House.
"I'm actually quite interested to see how far this goes," Glover wrote on his blog. "If this happens, I'll buy each and every one of you a mini cooper."
As much as we like Glover, a notable comedy writer ("30 Rock") and performer (in addition to "Community," he's pumped out some strong videos for "Funny or Die"), he might not be perfect for Spider-Man. Can someone who's almost 27 effectively play the teenage Peter Parker?
So we'll put it to you: What young actor – of any race or ethnicity – would you like to see slinging webs on screen? Use the comments section to nominate candidates for the next Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
Hester is founding director of the award-winning, multi-media NY City News Service at the City University of New York Graduate School of Journalism. He is the former City Editor of the New York Daily News, where he started as a reporter in 1992. Follow him on Twitter.


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A city of Contrast. A center of entertainment. A center of music. A center of cool trendy things and wealth? The city with the highest homeless population in the United States of America.
An emotionally draining slideshow which mixes art, whimsy, low production values, a general lack of composition, sexual tension, nausea and the feeling of foolishness you have if you can watch the entire show from beginning to end.
What could be better than an album of nothing but low resolution shots taken with my cellphone (and a few from friends cellphones as well) ... and then, take these low resolution photos and upload them in real time to facebook where the quality and size is reduced even more?


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Gurudev Kaur, Gurumustuk Singh, and Dharmjot Singh on 11-11-11
For those of us who are working in front of a computer screen all day long, here's something Yogi Bhajan taught to help us keep our magnetic fields balanced:
In 1996, while teaching a course in Miami, Yogi Bhajan was asked, "What can we do about the stress that comes from working with computers?" He replied, "At the end of the day you must recharge your central nervous system, otherwise you are slowly dying. When you work in front of your computer, your magnetic field joins with that of the computer. Before leaving your office sit nine feet away from your computer and eat a combination of fresh fruits including pear, apple, pineaple, orange, and kiwi with black salt. Eat very slowly. And then go home."


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Matt Damon's favorite holiday has arrived: World Water Day.
In celebration of the day dedicated to raising awareness for the clean-water crisis affecting a billion people around the world, the actor narrated an animated video that takes full advantage of potty humor to explain the importance water — and toilets — in our lives.
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"The toilet not only provides a tranquil escape from nagging bosses, spouses and children, it's also a fast and sanitary way to dispose of waste — separate from the water we drink and bathe in," Damon informs, before asking for a courtesy flush.
"But in most of the world, toilets are still a luxury," he continues. "In fact, more people have cellphones than toilets. One billion people, about 20 percent of the world's population, defecate in the open. In rural areas, the number jumps to one in three."
So why is the "Bourne Identity" star so worried about where people poop? He's one of the founders of Water.org, an organization dedicated to solving a global issue that — according to the organization's statistics — kills a child every 20 seconds, while forcing women to collectively spend 200 million hours a day gathering water.
"Take a moment to consider that the water six inches beneath your butt is cleaner than the drinking water of one billion of your neighbors," Damon concludes. "So celebrate your can, because you can. And would it kill you donate a few bucks — and light a match?"
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In one NFL sense, the Bill Walsh coaching tree is a mighty oak worthy of the Garden of Eden.
In one NFL sense, the Bill Walsh coaching tree is a mighty oak worthy of the Garden of Eden.
In this NFL-specific sense, the Bill Belichick coaching tree offers just enough shade to cover a two-sandwich picnic.
The Walsh branches are heavy with Super Bowl fruit. Behold the last 20 years.
George Seifert won two Super Bowls after Walsh handed him the 49ers baton. Mike Holmgren, whose first NFL job was coaching Joe Montana and Steve Young under Walsh, led the Packers to their only two post-Lombardi Super Bowls, then steered Seattle to its only Roman numerals Sunday. Mike Shanahan, the last offensive coordinator of the Walsh-inspired 49ers dynasty, piloted Denver to its first Super Bowl win 10 years ago, and its second a year later.
Jon Gruden and Andy Reid, "Walshniks" by osmosis through working with Holmgren, coached teams to Super Bowls within the last five years.
For now, on the other hand, Cleveland's Romeo Crennel and the New York Jets' Eric Mangini are the only NFL head coaches who participated in the rise of Belichick's New England Patriots. Neither Crennel nor Mangini has won a playoff game in a combined five seasons.
But then, Belichick is a tree unto himself. It's just a matter of time until his branches are blocking out the sun in the upper-level NFL coaching ranks.
Everyone is looking for a coach who can do what Belichick has done. For some, that will mean looking for a Belichick clone.
It won't hurt Belichick's young offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels, when head coach seekers recognize both he and Mr. Bill:
- Were genius-level students in high school.
- Adored strict, meticulous fathers who were disciplined coaches eager to educate their sons.
- Behind placid exteriors, are madly in love with a game they weren't good enough to play outside small-college football.
- Scrapped to get entry-level NFL jobs in their early 20s.
- Obsess with mastering the science of the game.
- Live to punish enemies where they are weak.
- Embrace the maniacal workload.
Belichick has a knack for hiring himself, so to speak. McDaniels and Mangini came to him as ambitious workaholics in their early 20s, precisely what Belichick was when Ted Marchibroda hired him with the Baltimore Colts in 1975.
New England's wide receivers coach, Nick Caserio, is a kindred spirit to McDaniels. They were college teammates at John Carroll, where Caserio was a quarterback and McDaniels a wide receiver.
Belichick routinely takes big intellect over big-time playing background in assembling his staff. Other current Belichick assistants played college ball at Rensselaer, Brown and Northern Colorado, none of which could hang with Appalachian State.
Crennel and Mangini, meanwhile, are an odd couple of Belichick branches. Crennel is the oldest current head coach in the NFL. Mangini was the youngest when the Jets hired him in 2006.
For what it's worth -- and that's something, given the fact they won three Super Bowls together -- Belichick, Crennel and Mangini share some distinctive traits with many other current head coaches.
Such as:
- Each was a defensive coordinator before landing a head coaching job.
- None played major-college football; both Belichick and Mangini played at Wesleyan in different eras.
- None played in the NFL.
- Each is from the Bill Parcells coaching tree, as is Belichick's opposite number in this year's Super Bowl, Tom Coughlin.
Everyone is looking for the common threads that make a great NFL head coach. Opinion is split as to what those threads are.
Belichick, Crennel and Mangini are among 17 current had coaches who were NFL defensive assistants the year before first becoming NFL head coaches. Fourteen of them were defensive coordinators.
Eight current head coaches were offensive coordinators the year before getting their big jobs. Three jumped from NFL quarterbacks coach to head coach.
Coughlin is the only current head coach who landed first NFL head coaching job directly out of the college head coaching ranks.
Other traits many or most NFL head coaches have in common:
- All of them played college football.
- None was close to being a Pro Football Hall of Fame player.
- Of the six who played in the NFL -- Tony Dungy, Jeff Fisher, Herman Edwards, Sean Payton, Jack Del Rio and Dick Jauron -- only Del Rio and Jauron went to a Pro Bowl. Each went once.
- None played college ball in the SEC or in Florida.
- Thirteen were born in California, Ohio, Illinois or Texas.
- Thirteen others were born in states touching the Atlantic Ocean, but none in Florida.
- Twelve played linebacker or defensive back in college.
- Nine were college quarterbacks.
Then there was the guy who made his athletic name in lacrosse as much as football at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Connecticut.
That would be Bill Belichick. Whatever his warts, his resume is out of this world.
If yours has enough matches with his, or perhaps includes him as a reference, your stock is up these days.
Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail email@example.com


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NASA, JPL get set to study climate change on Earth in 2014
NASA is getting ready to turn its scientific instruments toward our home planet with a trio of Earth-observing missions set to launch in 2014.
The three missions will allow scientists to measure water, wind and carbon dioxide with greater precision, and to improve the accuracy of weather forecasts and climate change projections.
NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said that understanding the ramifications of rising temperatures on Earth is an important priority for the space agency, which is most famous for studying outer space. Research on climate change "will inevitably be part of any agency in the federal government," he said during a visit to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory on Tuesday.
While visiting the NASA lab in La Canada Flintridge, Bolden donned a white gown, cap, booties and gloves and entered a cleanroom where engineers were assembling instruments for two of the missions. (You can see his spiffy get-up in the photo gallery above.)
RapidScat will be the first to launch, in April 2014. When it is mounted to the International Space Station, it will measure the speed and direction of winds near the ocean surface to improve storm and hurricane tracking. Its readings will also help scientists understand how the ocean and atmosphere interact to influence climate. (Roughly half of RapidScat's parts are from QuickScat, a satellite that collected similar information but stopped working in 2009.)
The Soil Moisture Active Passive, or SMAP, satellite will map the moisture levels of soil, which affects the formation of clouds and rainfall. SMAP will also measure changes in the length of the growing season, an indication of how much carbon plants absorb from the atmosphere. The spacecraft is scheduled to launch in October 2014.
Bolden, escorted by JPL director Charles Elachi, focused his questions on mission logistics. He drew the instrument parts in the air as he asked, for example, whether meteorites or other obstructions will affect SMAP's measurements. (The answer: SMAP will stop taking measurements until after such objects pass its radar range.)
Bolden's eyes lit up as he examined RapidScat's hardware. "This is the most exciting [mission] to me because it finally recognizes the ability to marry space exploration and human space travel as a true science platform," said the former astronaut, who flew aboard the space shuttles Columbia, Discovery and Atlantis.
JPL's third Earth-observing mission is the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2, a satellite that will map carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. With a launch date of July 2014, it is undergoing final assembly and testing by Orbital Sciences Corp. engineers in Arizona.
SMAP project system engineer Shawn Goodman said he is already looking forward to NASA's Year of Earth missions.
"We're the caretakers of this planet," he said. "I can't imagine anything more important for us to understand."
Dragana Perkovic-Martin, RapidScat's radar performance engineer, agreed that many people, not just scientists, could benefit from the Earth observation data.
"We as a population get affected by everything that we observe," she said. "This is about us trying to help the population and where they really live."
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tado° signs partnership agreements with AT&T and Telefónica's O2 to make headway in rapidly growing smart home market
Las Vegas, Jan 5th 2016 - Smart home climate control pioneer tado° today announces its new partnerships with AT&T and UK-based O2 to improve life at home through connectivity. Telecoms have historically developed from landline to mobile communications and are now coming to the next phase of not only connecting computers and handsets but also the important things in our homes for more comfort, efficiency and security.
tado° always ensures that your home is pre-warmed before you even step through your front door. In addition to automatically turning on your heating when you are heading home, these new partnerships allow for exciting new features such as turning on the lights, disabling the alarm system, or calling the elevator. This means everything can be ready for when you are heading home - all done seamlessly in the background for you.
David Plumb, Digital Director at O2 says: "By partnering with the very best device, platform and service providers, we will be able to give people the smartest tech for their homes. But crucially, we will use our O2 Gurus, with installation experts, to make it easy and simple for people to get the most out of that tech, ensuring they can save money and time or simply gain peace of mind. With 25 million O2 customers in the UK, we are excited to be using our scale and expertise to help customers get the everyday benefits of connected tech in the home."
"Intelligent climate control is emerging as a clear centerpiece of any connected home. Through these partnerships, O2 and AT&T will bring tado°'s unique functionality to its vast audience of consumers who are rapidly adopting the concept of the Internet-connected home," said Christian Deilmann, CEO of
The tado° solutions via O2 and AT&T will be brought to market in summer 2016.
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About tado°
Headquartered in Munich, tado°, the European market leader in intelligent home climate control solutions, was founded in 2011. tado° revolutionises the way energy is consumed at home. Through the use of a geo-aware app, tado° automatically adjusts the temperature based on the residents' locations, enabling households to significantly save on energy costs while reaching a higher level of comfort.
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Celebrating his first title was a sweet experience for Dallas owner Mark Cuban.
Even if it came with a steep price.
The New York Post is reporting that Mark Cuban left a major gratuity after celebrating the Mavericks' NBA championship.
Blogger Tim Griffin reports: Cuban leaves $20k tip after post-championship revelry