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Fully Featured Truggy Racer, now Waterproof with 2.4GHz Tech!
The HPI Trophy range of off-road racers has been updated with the latest in 2.4GHz radio technology, waterproof servos and a waterproof receiver & battery compartment! That's right: one of our most popular nitro kits ever now has been upgraded to make it a performer just about anywhere! The Trophy Truggy 4.6 is the perfect way to get into nitro 1/8 truggies! A 'truggy' is part truck with its big tyres and pick-up truck style bodyshell, and it's also part buggy with the main drivetrain components, chassis and suspension being taken directly from or derived from a 1/8th scale rallycross buggy chassis. Truggies are a popular racing class around the world! This kit has got everything you need for anything you want to do. For bashing fun and big-air stunts, it has a durable aluminium chassis, braces and shock towers, and for race track performance and tuning the Trophy is equipped with the amazingly powerful Nitro Star F4.6 HPI engine, angle-pin racing tyres, oil-filled shocks, turnbuckles and plenty of tuning adjustment possibilities. In addition to being race-bred and ready for track action, the updated Trophy Truggy 4.6 looks great, too. The aerodynamic racing truck bodyshell features a brand new paint design, and the Shredder Block angle pin racing tyres are wrapped around cool black chrome Edge 7-spoke wheels. The rear wing isn't just for looks, either - it gives the Trophy loads of downforce and control in the air. To top everything off, we've updated the anodizing of the shock caps, wheel nuts and more to HPI-spec bright orange!
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Want to tackle that muddy bug? How about that stream crossing? A bit of rain about to fall? That's all fine for the Trophy! The Trophy Truggy 4.6 now features a cool waterproof electronics compartment for the receiver and receiver batteries and a pair of HPI SF-10W waterproof servos and finally a water-resistant air filter cover that allows you to keep running the Trophy Truggy 4.6 in truly extreme conditions! Please note: This HPI vehicle is designed to provide water protection so it can be driven in wet conditions (e.g. rain, snow, puddles). Not for submersion. Nitro engines are splash protected and require extra care when running in wet conditions. See manual for details.
All of the latest HPI kits are now fitted with a comfortable and feature-packed HPI 2.4GHz radio system for supreme control and confidence! The radio features a pistol-grip design with drop-down steering wheel, 3 channel functionality, easy carry handle, fold-down aerial, end point adjustments, servo reversing and steering dual rate. It's also extremely lightweight due to it requiring only four AA batteries. You won't have to worry about radio crystals or what channel other RC racers are using with our 2.4GHz technology - the radio does all that work for you! The radio prevents frequency conflicts automatically and changes channels if there is any interference. Finally, if you ever lose radio signal, an electronic failsafe will bring it to a safe and controlled stop. You'll have professional-level control in one easy RTR package!
The awesome Nitro Star F4.6 engine from the legendary Savage 4.6 monster truck provides all the grunt needed to get the Trophy Truggy up to wild speeds - it's extra-loud, super-powerful and mightily strong, so you'll be able to rip off huge stunts like record-setting long jumps, backflips, tall jumps, even double backflips! The F4.6 engine will give you eye-opening acceleration and crazy top speeds! The engine is started by a simple pullstarter system and is protected by a unique water splash cover and 2-stage air filterfor extra protection, and the two-needle carburretor allows you to fine-tune the performance for any kind of weather or fuel.
- Monster 4.6cc (.28) engine size
- Bore: 18.68mm
- Stroke: 16.6mm
- Power: 2.9hp @ 32,000 RPM
- Carburettor: F1-7.5 (Composite 7.5mm)
- True ABC construction for long life
- Composite carb construction helps prevent heat vaporization of fuel
- Finned aluminium case
- Huge aluminium heatsink
- Tough pullstarter fitted standard
- 2-stage air filter for extra engine protection
- Splash cover over air filter keeps the engine from getting flooded with water in wet conditions
The chassis of the Truggy 4.6 is made from 6061 aluminium for an excellent combination of strength and light weight. The low weight allows for faster acceleration, and the durability means you can have the confidence to pull off insane stunts and jumps!
To increase the chassis stiffness, it's fitted with a metal rod brace and thick aluminium steering brace up front and a huge vertical aluminium plate brace in the back! This allows the suspension to do all the work it's designed to do for increased driving feel and control without chassis twist or bending getting in the way.
The drivetrain used in the Truggy 4.6 is a full-time four-wheel drive shaft-type drivetrain. The shaft drivetrain is the best option for a kit that's expected drive through mud, water, dirt, grass, snow or gravel! The entire drivetrain is supported by high quality ball bearings for extra efficiency, so you get the the maximum speed and acceleration possible, and the most out of every tank of fuel! A strong steel spur gear takes the power from the engine and transmits it through a central differential, which transfers power to the front and rear diffs by long central driveshafts. The front and rear bevel differentials use 4 internal gears for excellent durability over standard 2-gear diffs. The diff outdrives turn tough steel outdrives and axles, and 17mm orange anodized aluminium hex adapters spin the 7-spoke wheels, which are are wrapped with Shredder Block angle pin rubber racing tyres. To bring the Trophy to a safe and controlled stop, dual drilled steel disc brakes with fibre brake pads are used. The brake pads use material from full-size trucks, bringing the Trophy to a quick yet controllable stop. All the brake linkage is fully adjustable for extra tuning power on the track.
Suspension and Steering
The Trophy Truggy 4.6 is fully equipped with a real racing suspension to give you the driving feel and responsiveness of the pros! Long suspension arms at each corner are made from thick, impact-resistant plastic and webbed for extra strength. The shocks feature aluminium bodies and caps for extra durability, and are oil-filled with rubber bladders and protective boots over the thick shock shafts. For pro-level race tuning, the shocks can be moved at the top and bottom to get the perfect positioning to help you set fast laps race after race. The camber links front and rear also have extra holes to adjust roll centre and gain valuable seconds out on the track, and the camber links themselves are strong steel turnbuckles so you can easily adjust the angle of the tyres.
If you don't want to make any changes and just get out and drive, that's fine too! Absolutely everything is factory-fitted right out of the box, so you don't have to change a thing if you want to just start up the Trophy Truggy 4.6 and have some fun.
HPI makes it as easy as possible to get into RC racing action. The RTR Trophy Truggy 4.6 is completely pre-built and ready to go right out of the box! Everything is assembled and tuned for you by professionals - diffs, shocks, suspension and more are perfect before you even open the package. You don't have to do a thing to get going fast! HPI Ready-To-Run vehicles bring you the same high performance and quality that you'd expect from a high end RC kit but with the added convenience of being factory pre-assembled to the highest standards - giving you a high performance RC car straight from the box!
Just like all HPI cars and trucks, you get a full, in-depth instruction manual with step-by-step instructions that allow you to easily disassemble and reassemble your car for maintenance and easy servicing. The manual also includes a handy parts list and full-scale drawings of the parts and hardware. And the included HPI RC Car DVD is your personal RC car expert in a box!
- Factory-assembled & pre-painted 4WD nitro racing truggy
- 2.4 GHz radio system for crystal-free, comfortable control
- Waterproof receiver/battery box protects battery and receiver from the elements
- Waterproof laydown steering servo for low CG and awesome handling
- Waterproof throttle/brake servo
- Covered air filter keeps water away from the air intake
- Low centre of gravity (CG) design for great track performance
- Strong and reliable Nitro Star F4.6 engine with 2.9hp
- Strong engine mount and large flywheel opening for starter boxes
- Easy and simple pullstarter for instant action
- 4mm 6061 aluminium chassis has angled sides for extra stiffness
- Thick 6061 aluminium shock towers are strong and durable
- Thick steering brace for increased chassis stiffness
- Low-profile aluminium radio tray securely mounts servos
- Race-tuned suspension design for awesome traction
- Extra-long, oi-filled shocks with aluminium shock bodies
- Multiple shock and camber link locations for extra race tuning
- Steel turnbuckle links allow you to custom-tune the ride
- Tough front bumper protects against crash damage
- Extra-large 160cc fuel tank gives you plenty of runtime
- Powerful, adjustable & vented front and rear steel disk brakes
- Strong fibre brake pads for longevity and fade resistance
- All-terrain Shredder Block angle pin tyres for grip and traction
- Intelligent fuel line routing to keep things neat and tidy
- Cast aluminium steering knuckles for increased strength
- 17mm hex hubs resist stripping out
- Slick racing truck bodyshell is prepainted and cut out for instant race looks
- Adjustable mounts for the wide racing wing
- Extra suspension mounts included for tuning options
#107014 RTR TROPHY TRUGGY 4.6 W/ 2.4GHz
1/8th Scale 4WD Nitro Truggy with Nitro Star F4.6 engine, 2.4GHz Radio System and Painted Body
|SPECIFICATIONS: Length: 580mm Width: 405mm Height: 180mm Track: 365mm Wheelbase: 365mm Drivetrain: Shaft 4WD
WHAT YOU NEED: Nitro Car Fuel Fuel Bottle Glow Plug Igniter #110605 HPI Nitro Starter Pack includes everything you need, just add fuel!
Includes: 4 AA Batteries for transmitter and 4 AA Batteries for receiver


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The International Max Planck Research School in Primary Metabolism and Plant Growth offers several doctoral fellowships starting fall 2007 The recently founded International Max Planck Research School (IMPRS) in Primary Metabolism and Plant Growth will focus on a systems oriented approach with an emphasis on both the application of a variety of molecular phenotyping technologies (Omics) and of bioinformatics, specifically on data integration and modelling. In this joint initiative of the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Plant Physiology and the University of Potsdam doctoral students will receive a high level and true interdisciplinary education covering genetics, cutting edge analytical techniques and bioinformatics. Doctoral studies will focus to a large extent on the model organism Arabidopsis thaliana. The programme's language is English and no tuitions apply. For information about the programme, the research groups and the online application procedure please visit our web page at: http://www-en.mpimp-golm.mpg.de/IMPRS_GoFORSYS/index.html Applications will be accepted until July 15, 2007

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Supported by the coalition of voters that catapulted him to the presidency four years ago, Barack Obama has regained a small lead over challenger Mitt Romney among Florida voters, a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday shows.
Obama was favored by 46 percent compared to 42 percent who preferred Romney in Quinnipiac's random telephone survey of 1,697 registered voters in the nation's largest swing state. The poll taken June 12-18 has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points.
Romney led in a similar Quinnipiac survey last month when he was preferred by 47 percent to Obama's 41 percent. The president benefited most from a big swing among independent voters who preferred Obama by a 46-37 margin. A month ago, independents chose Romney by a 44-36 margin.
"It's worth noting that the last Quinnipiac University Florida poll was on the heels of the president's backing of gay marriage, which might have hurt him," pollster Peter Brown said Thursday. "This movement reflects that uncertainty among voters who are up for grabs."
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Obama was backed by young voters, minorities and women while Romney was favored by white and older voters.
"Romney is not well-defined in the minds of many voters, especially those in the middle," Brown said.
The poll also shows U.S. Rep. Connie Mack IV far ahead of the field with 698 GOP voters in his bid for the Republican nomination and a shot at unseating two-term U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson. The Republican sampling had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points.
Mack, the son of former U.S. Sen. Connie Mack and great-grandson of the legendary baseball owner and manager with the same name, received 41 percent while no other Republican candidate was in double figures.
George LeMieux, who was appointed by former Gov. Charlie Crist to serve the last 16 months of former U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez's term in the nation's capital, hoped to win the seat on his own, but dropped out Wednesday after failing to gain traction with Republican voters.
The poll was taken before LeMieux's announcement that he was getting out of the race and showed the one-time adviser to Crist with the support of only 8 percent of Republicans, although nearly two of every five remained undecided. Former U.S. Rep. Dave Weldon (3 percent) and Tea Party favorite Mike McCallister (5 percent) of Plant City remain challengers to Mack.
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"The Republican Senate nomination is Congressman Connie Mack's to lose," Brown said. "It would take a major change in public opinion for one of the other candidates to stop Connie Mack."
The poll showed Nelson with a 43-39 edge on Mack if the election were held now with 18 percent undecided.
Mack is trying to regain the seat won his father 24 years ago when the elder Mack defeated Democratic nominee Buddy MacKay in the closest U.S. Senate race in Florida history.
Nelson was elected in 2000 when he defeated Republican Bill McCollum. He was easily re-elected in 2006 when he faced former U.S. rep. and Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris.


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8. Sombrero (Mexico)
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11. Greek fisherman's cap (Greece)
12. Fez (Mediterranean)
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14. Akubra/Aussie bush hat (Australia)
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A Milton man was pepper-sprayed by Brookline police after he allegedly acted "aggressively" and swung his bicycle at officers after a chase.
Police said Anwar Luckman, 21, was riding along Harvard Street just after 12:30 a.m. Wednesday when he rode past a police officer on patrol, said something and kept riding. The officer noticed Luckman was riding the bicycle without a light at night and tried to get him to stop, according to a police report. Luckman allegedly kept peddling and started traveling on the wrong side of the road.
He eventually fell off of his bike while riding along Harvard Street.
"I approached the subject who then picked up the bike and took an aggressive stance in the middle of the street with the bike between him and myself," the officer wrote in the report. "I attempted to calm him, but he was enraged, and began swinging the bicycle menacingly in my direction."
Additional officers arrived at the scene and Luckman allegedly swung the bike at them, too. The officer pepper-sprayed Luckman and, following a brief struggle, he was arrested.
Luckman told police he was riding back home to Milton after visiting a friend on Commonwealth Avenue. "He had no explanation for his disorderly behavior," police wrote in the report.
Luckman was charged with being a disorderly person and resisting arrest. He also faces $100 worth of biking violations.
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Annual. Black Swan is too gorgeous to tuck away in a menagerie of other flowers. Sow it along a path you frequent, in a bed near your deck or patio, or in a large container where you can watch its richly colored 3"-5" semi-double blossoms unfurl from full pods on graceful, curved, swan-like necks. Savor its intricate, finely cut petals that are as dark as a fine cabernet. Harvest them for exquisite bouquets or simply enjoy the show! Deer resistant.
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When to sow outside: RECOMMENDED. 4 to 6 weeks before average last frost, as soon as soil can be worked, or early to mid-fall for bloom the following spring.
When to start inside: Not recommended; does not transplant well.
Special germination instructions: Seeds require light to germinate. Rake lightly into surface of soil; keep moist.
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Applegate Naturals Grilled Chicken Breast Strips - Our love for Applegate's tasty products goes on and on, and these new cooked chicken strips are no exception! Choose from original and Southwestern-Style. Each 3-oz. serving has 90 - 100 calories, 1 - 2g fat, 290 - 340mg sodium, 0 - 2g carbs, 0g fiber, 0g sugars, and 15 - 24g protein (PointsPlus® value 2*). Ready-to-eat protein rocks our socks... Find it in the fridge section! Unreal Candy Unjunked Un 8 Chocolate Caramel Peanut Nougat Bars - These individually wrapped treats come full sized too, but we recently got our hands on the half-sized 100-calorie versions, and we are LOVING 'em! These candies have less sugar than regular candy bars, plus no artificial ingredients, corn syrup, etc. Each 0.8-oz. bar has 100 calories, 6g fat, 44mg sodium, 12g carbs, 3g fiber, 8g sugars, and 2g protein (PointsPlus® value 3*). There's also a sans-peanut version -- Un 5 -- with 80 calories per mini bar! Click to find... Grimmway Farms Simply Delicious Carrot Creations - If whipping up veggie side dishes feels like a major chore (not to mention getting the family to eat said veggies!), give these carrots a try. In two flavors -- Roasted Garlic & Savory Herb and Honey, Brown Sugar & Cinnamon -- the buttery-sauced sides in microwaveable bags are worth checking out! Each 3-oz. serving has just 70 calories, 3 - 4.5g fat, 95 - 160mg sodium, 8 - 9g carbs, 2g fiber, 5 - 7g sugars, and 1g protein (PointsPlus® value 2*). Look for 'em in the refrigerated produce section.
Ready for the latest batch of smart menu options? Good! Red Lobster has added a slew of no-guilt seafood and chicken dishes to its lineup. There's the Bar Harbor Salad with Shrimp, Chicken, or Salmon (260 - 350 calories and 9 - 10g fat without dressing or cheese), the Tropical BBQ Glazed Chicken (390 calories and 6g fat), the Island Grilled Mahi-Mahi and Shrimp (510 calories and 5g fat), and more. Heads up: Not every new item is guilt-free, so check out the stats before ordering. LongHorn Steakhouse (owned by the same peeps behind Olive Garden and Red Lobster) recently debuted a Flavorful Under 500 menu. The best part? That 500-calorie cap includes a salad, entrée, AND side dish! And lastly, the guilt-free-food mecca known as LYFE Kitchen (nearly everything on the menu is under 600 calories!) has announced a nationwide expansion plan, with ten locations slated to open next year (including restaurants in Chicago and New York). YAY!!!
Check out these smart alternatives to standard candy for trick-or-treaters... Kellogg's Krave Halloween Packs - We're big fans of this chocolicious cereal, with its crunchy exterior and smooth chocolate center. And now it comes in fun-size pouches! In both Chocolate and Double Chocolate, each 0.35-oz. pouch has 40 calories and 1g fat. Watch out, M&M's... You've got some yummy competition! Wonderful Pistachios "Frankenweenie" Halloween Snack Packs - These Roasted & Salted nuts come in 0.25-oz. bags, perfect for goblins, ghouls and, um, YOU! Each pouch has around 6 nuts and 20 calories and 1.5g fat, so feel free to munch on a few after the trick-or-treating winds down! Kellogg's Fun Size Scary Berry Pop-Tarts Mini Crisps - YAY -- more Halloween varieties of things we love! Sure, they're called "Scary Berry," but there's nothing scary about 45 calories and 1g fat per fun-size pouch. No tiny toaster required.
We're rebels: We swim right after eating, wear white after Labor Day, and eat frozen treats all year long! Good thing, too, because... The folks at TCBY have special seasonal flavors of Super Fro-Yo from now through the end of the year! This month (October) they've been serving Pumpkin Pie, and in November they'll switch to Apple Spice. December's flavor? EGGNOG! ***Now some not-so-good (but necessary) news... You know that ever-expanding peanut butter recall? It includes our beloved Justin's Nut Butter. Jars and squeeze packs of the brand's peanut butter have been recalled, as well as its chocolate peanut butter cups. Sad times! Click here for all the details. ***If you're keeping an eye on the presidential election, check this out -- your coffee purchase at 7-Eleven could help predict the results (unofficially, anyway)! Select a blue cup for Obama or a red cup for Romney, and 7-Eleven will tally up the "votes." Click here to see where your state stands so far. We know how we're voting... Vanilla Nut with a splash of Pumpkin Spice! ***Take seasonal flavors into your own hands with this DIY pumpkin vodka (if you're of the legal drinking age)! We think that this half-homemade spirit sounds like the recipe for a PAR-TAY... ***Finally, the HUNGRY GIRL TO THE MAX! book tour is coming home to Southern California! Tonight (Monday, 10/22), the freebie-packed soiree is at The Grove in Los Angeles, and on Wednesday (10/24) we're heading to San Diego for another rockin' event. Then we're off to Phoenix on Friday (10/26) to round out the week! Join us for tons of snacks, prizes, and so much more. YAYAYAYAY!!! And that's all we've got. HG out!
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Happy National Nut Day, October 22nd! If general HG nuttiness alone isn't enough for you, we suggest snacking on some almonds.
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Malaysian soldiers helping keep the peace in Lebanon
BEIRUT, Lebanon - As U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo flew into Beirut, in Lebanon on Friday, it was business as usual for UN peacekeepers stationed in the country.
One of the biggest contingents serving at present is from Malaysia, and serving under the United Nations flag in Lebanon, they face a "a totally new experience" according to the commander of the Malaysian contingent in the country.
Currently, 850 military personnel, including 38 women, are deployed to the UN peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, known as UNIFIL.
Malaysian peacekeepers have been stationed in the eastern Mediterranean country since January 2007, and a total of 10,840 men and women have served there.
"We assist in the deployment of the Lebanese Armed Forces and conduct training in support of the Government of Lebanon exercising its authority in the UNIFIL area of operation," Colonel Azhan bin Hj Md Othman, the commander of the contingent said Thursday. "The Malaysian presence in Lebanon is important in implementing UNIFIL's mandate and in ensuring stability in south Lebanon."
UNIFIL was created by the United Nations Security Council in March 1978 to confirm the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon, restore international peace and security and assist the Lebanese Government in restoring its authority in the area.
The role of UNIFIL has evolved in line with developments in the region and the mission now also monitors the cessation of hostilities, accompanies and supports the Lebanese Armed Forces and helps to ensure humanitarian access to civilian populations as well as the voluntary and safe return of displaced people.
Overall, there are some 10,300 peacekeepers serving in the mission, including the Malaysian troops. These peacekeepers, who work alongside the Lebanese Army and host communities, have helped to ensure that the area, roughly 10 times the size of Paris, has enjoyed nearly 13 years of peace.
"There are challenges for our troops," according to Colonel Azhan. "It's important we maintain our credibility and legitimacy by remaining impartial throughout our operations as we continue our cooperation with the Lebanese Armed Forces. Consolidating our relationship with local leaders and civilians is also a key part of our mission here and must be carried out with meticulous thinking, wisdom and tolerance."
Of the 38 women presently on mission in Lebanon, four are officers and the remainder come from other ranks. "Women in the Malaysian contingent play a significant role especially in conducting certain activities such as market walks and medical support for local communities," says Colonel Azhan. "They are also involved in operational activities such as foot and vehicle patrols."
"The presence of women during these activities is definitely helpful in gaining the trust and confidence of the local female population towards UN peacekeepers. The women and girls from the host communities are comfortable with the Malaysian female peacekeepers due to our background and their respect for the local culture and religion."
Troops sent by Malaysia to UNIFIL generally spend one year in Lebanon. The next rotation is in September 2019.
"Serving under the UN Flag is a totally new experience for me and my troops. A lot of preparation is carried out ahead of our deployment. Promoting peace and conducting peacekeeping operations away from the homeland is very challenging and demanding. We are truly very proud to serve our country and the United Nations," adds Colonel Azhan.
A total of four Malaysian peacekeepers have lost their lives since 2007 while on mission with UNIFIL.
Earlier this week, on Tuesday, UNIFIL marked the 41st anniversary of its establishment with a ceremony at its headquarters in Naqoura. This was to highlight the commitment of the international community and the United Nations to the Lebanese state and its people.
"A lot of progress happened since the first deployment of UNIFIL 41 years ago, but we must look forward if we are to achieve a lasting and permanent peace in south Lebanon," the UNIFIL Head of Mission and Force Commander Major General Stefano Del Col said Tuesday. "I would like to share my vision for UNIFIL: sustain the peace, protect civilians, strengthen the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF), and move towards a permanent ceasefire in line with our mandate under UN Security Council resolution 1701."
At the ceremony were representatives of the LAF and other security agencies, local authorities, mayors and religious leaders. Major General Del Col and Brigadier-General Roger Helou (representing the LAF Commander) laid wreaths at the UNIFIL cenotaph paying tribute to the memory of the UN peacekeepers from around the world who, since UNIFIL's establishment in 1978, have given their lives in the cause of peace in southern Lebanon.
During the proceedings UNIFIL leadership and LAF representatives awarded 50 military staff officers with the UN Medal for their contribution to fulfilling the Mission's mandate.
While noting the work of the Mission in diffusing tensions and avoiding escalations, the head of UNIFIL emphasized the crucial role of the LAF, saying, "The Lebanese Army has grown and progressed to become a respected state institution as well as the recognized provider of security for Lebanon and its citizens. UNIFIL will continue to support this development, as well as working in close cooperation with our strategic partner, to support the stability of Lebanon and to pave the way for progress towards a resolution of this conflict."
The UNIFIL chief also highlighted the close bonds between the Mission and the people of south Lebanon, "South Lebanon has enjoyed 13 years of calm and stability since 2006. The development of communities and civil society, as well as a normalization of activity throughout the area of operations, are signs filling us with hope for a peaceful future as communities grow and prosper, becoming resistant to a return to conflict and war," he said.
Following the ceremony Major General Del Col met with the large number of local journalists in attendance. He briefed them on the current situation in the area of operation and the activities carried out by UNIFIL in close coordination with the LAF.


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Wise Steps Into Key Role For Arkansas
Junior catcher ready to help lead Razorbacks back to postseason
After finishing third in the 2012 College World Series, pitching and defense are reasons the Arkansas baseball team was given a preseason no. 1 national ranking for the 2013 season.
The one player directly tied to both areas could be a key reason if the Razorbacks finish the season as national champions.
Catcher Jake Wise enters his junior season after playing in 60 games as a sophomore, starting in 49 of them. He helped stabilize the Diamond Hogs' defense with a perfect 1.000 fielding percentage in 438 chances and handled the pitching staff well throughout the season.
"The pitchers love throwing to him," said head coach Dave Van Horn. "He blocks everything for the most part. He's got a tremendous arm."
The arm Van Horn speaks of threw out 17 of 50 attempted steals last season, a highly efficient 34 percent.
"Jake's really good," said redshirt senior pitcher Trent Daniel. "He's probably the best I've ever seen back there. In the three years I've been here with him, just each year he's gotten so much better."
Van Horn says Wise has earned the starting catcher spot this season, and expects bigger and better things from him.
"I think he's ready for the challenge," Van Horn said. "He's in good shape. He's bigger and stronger than he's ever been and this is a big year for him personally as well."
"Being as good defensively as he is, he's such a luxury to have," said junior pitcher Ryne Stanek. "[His] blocking is as good as it gets. His throwing, as good as it gets."
The coaching staff says the experience Wise gained behind the plate as a sophomore has allowed him to become a more confident player and a leader in the clubhouse.
"He's a lot more relaxed because he has more knowledge and he understands how to play a little bit better," said assistant coach Dave Jorn. "It's always important to have that guy and that leader behind the dish."
"You need a catcher to be a leader," associate head coach Todd Butler said. "He has grown up in his third year. As a freshman, he didn't speak much and boy, he's the funniest guy on the team now. I'm going, 'Where have you been for three years?'"
Wise finished 2012 hitting .244 with two only home runs, but one of those home runs came in a win against Kent State in the College World Series. He also drove in the go-ahead run with an RBI single in the 10th inning of the third and deciding game of the Super Regionals against Baylor.
Wise drove in the game-winning run five times in total last season, two of them on bases-loaded walks.
Examples of timely hitting like those are reasons why Van Horn thinks Wise could have a breakthrough season this year.
"Last year he got off to a great start," Van Horn said. "For two weeks we were thinking, 'Wow, man. This guy can really hit.' I think this is the year he'll make a move offensively."


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UIS Programs: Empire and Faith of Rome
Empire and Faith of Rome – May/June 2013
Rome is known as the "Eternal City" because of its origins as the capital of a Mediterranean Empire that controlled the region for nearly one thousand years. Today, as a city of nearly three million people, Rome is one of the most visited cities in the world. Tracing its origins back to the legendary founding of the city upon seven hills in the eighth century BC by Romulus, Rome became the capital for the Roman Republic, the Roman Empire, the medieval Papacy, the Papal States, and the modern Italian republic.
Rome is attractive to people for a number of reasons. The city was one the greatest empires of the ancient world, as well as the fact that it was the seat of western Christendom and a center of Renaissance art and architecture. In short, any student can find something of interest in Rome from nearly any period in history. From the ruins of the Roman forum and Colosseum, to the early Christian catacombs and churches, to the Renaissance buildings and art, Rome continues to enthrall its millions of visitors each year. To study Rome on this trip is to enter the past, and engage with the materials and ideas that made Rome the center of empire and faith.
On this epic and breathtaking odyssey to Rome, we will undertake the challenges (modest by ancient standards) of uncovering the many layers of Roman history. Our travels will also include day trips ranging from the rural villas of the elite in Tivoli, to the first-century streets of Ostia Antica, to the preserved remains of Pompeii, to the magnificent art and beauty of Florence.
Students will fly from Chicago to Rome and stay at the Casa La Salle in Rome for thirteen nights, with breakfast included each day. During the course of our stay, we will have opportunities to hear lectures at the Casa La Salle, give student presentations at historical sites, sample the local cuisine, and takes several day trips. This course will count for ECCE Engagement Experience or it can be used for ECCE Global Awareness through petition.
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Greenstein's Corn (rye) bread
Greenstein's Corn Bread is the ultimate Jewish rye, and it is unique in the technique with which it is made. The ingredients are the usual - rye sour, rye flour, common flour (AKA first clear flour), yeast and caraway seeds. And water. The crust is glazed with a corn starch/water mixture.
What's unique (to my knowledge) is that this dourgh is essentially saturated with water. It is highly hydrated in mixing. It has just enough substance to be called a dough, and it does develop gluten stretchiness. It must be manipulated with frequently wetted hands. After kneading, it is fermented submerged in water, then shaped ... Kinda ... into rounds. The bench must be kept wet for this to work at all.
This dough is not slack. It's not sticky. It's downright sloppy! It sticks to a peel, no matter how much polenta you put on the peel! Parchment paper is a loaf-saver! It's baked at a lower temperature than most hearth breads 350-375 degrees), but for a long time. These loaves baked for about 1 hour and 40 minutes, plus an extra 15 minutes on the stone with the oven turned off but the door kept closed.
So, why bother? Because it is absolutely delicious. That's why. It has a crisp crust (if you bake it 15 minutes longer than you can believe is possible) and a crumb that is both tender and chewey. The flavor is just like good Jewish sourdough rye, except more so. Did I say it tastes really good?
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) Evan Turner had 18 points and 11 rebounds, Jrue Holiday scored 25 points and the Philadelphia 76ers beat the Detroit Pistons 104-97 on Monday night.
Thaddeus Young scored 20 points and Spencer Hawes had 15 for the Sixers.
Greg Monroe missed a tip with less than a minute left that came back to haunt Detroit. Holiday sank a 19-footer for a 100-95 lead and the Sixers stretched the lead from the free-throw line.
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What we read while ESPN got a little carried away with the Jeremy Lin jokes…
- The Simpsons aired its 500th new episode last night, putting it up there with Gunsmoke and Lassie in terms of longevity. Of course, in terms of cultural influence, it's probably #1. It's common to rank episodes, but at this point it might be easier to rank seasons. For fun, try to come up with your favorite single quote.
- A graphical display of why aging is scary.
- The New York Times had an excellent piece on America's expanding social safety net last Sunday, highlighting that even those most passionately against government spending are increasingly dependent on it. Some, like Paul Krugman, are quick to call this hypocrisy, but it's much more complicated than that.
- Another cool Times thing: This interactive budget graphic!
- Linsanity is sweeping the nation! He's making the Knicks relevant, and fun to watch again. Of course, New Yorkers are already thinking about how this could go wrong when Carmelo Anthony returns to the lineup. But the story has transcended sports: Lin has led to moronic columns from political commentators, and one of the most racist headlines you'll ever see. ESPN has since apologized and fired those responsible for the headline… It's just ironic, since ESPN had already spent so much airtime devising Lin-related puns.
- Comedy news: David Wain talks about his new movie, and Jim Gaffigan decides to follow the new Louis C.K. model for his next special.
- Goodbye A.J. Burnett. You will not really be missed…
- Speaking of baseball, here are the 10 worst swings of last season.


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What a great tasty meal, my daughter cooked this for our family get together, we all loved it! She added onion, pepper, mushrooms, quorn pieces and fresh pineapple, loved the sweet taste which was perfect, just enough. She served with rice, naan bread and poppadums', I can`t wait to try this myself, would definitely recommend.


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BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) Allen Crabbe broke out of his brief shooting slump with 23 points, Richard Solomon had a career-high 18 points and nine rebounds and California beat Prairie View A&M 85-53 on Saturday afternoon.
Justin Cobbs added 14 points for California (8-3), which has won two straight after a season-worst three-game losing streak.
The Golden Bears trailed early then used runs of 14-0 and 11-0 to take control, getting good production from its perimeter offense while dominating in the paint.
Solomon, who had a previous best of 14 points, led the Golden Bears' inside attack while Crabbe went 8 for 11 from the floor to record his 19th career game with 20 points or more.
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Cresswell Quay is well and truly up the creek.
This is not written in any derogatory sense, but rather in a complimentary way, for it is quaintly situated at the tide's limit in a picturesque arm of the Cleddau estuary, and is the haunt of many tourists seeking peace and quiet in beautiful surroundings.
Almost as many visitors to Cresswell Quay arrive by boat as by car. They come up the Cresswell River from both sides of the estuary to spend a few hours on the quay and in the Cresselly Arms, which overlooks it, eating, drinking and chatting in relaxed style al fresco with a splendid backdrop of parkland trees and a beautiful view of the river before them.
Although Cresswell Quay is nowadays a quaint and quiet retreat for locals and tourists, it was once a bustling river port lying at the head of the Cresswell River, exporting coal from some 50 small pits not far inland. The scale of the now almost indiscernable coal folds, where stocks were stored to await the arrival of the small barges which took them to Lawrenny for export in larger sailing vessels to destinations near and far, demonstrate how busy it was. And downstream, where the Cresswell River joins the Carew river and then the estuary of the two Cleddau Rivers (Western and Eastern), was more sail traffic taking limestone from the highly productive quarries which finger into the southern bank at West Williamston. This limestone was not only shipped to the multitude of lime kilns all around the Pembrokeshire coast and inside the estuaries of the various rivers feeding Milford Haven waterway, but also for use as road mending material by the highway authorities.
This network of quarry creeks are now a wonderful source of exploration for small boats and canoes, many of whom end up at Cresswell Quay for refreshment in the Cresselly Arms where licensee Maurice Cole has become an iconic landlord. The area is full of listed buildings, which include the recently restored mill, a hip-roofed building, and the adjacent Miller's House, both Grade 11 Listed. The old quay and the bridge are also Grade 11 Listed and the ruins of many old industrial buidings also testify to the importance of the village's industrial heritage.
Ask landlord Maurice Cole about Welsh rugby international John Taylor and his 1971 conversion which defeated the Scots by one point, giving them a 19-18 victory, and he will show you a piece of the goalpost off which the kick bounced in. It was sawn off in a daring night-time raid by local boy Fred Mathias, who brought it home in triumph for display in the bar at the Cressely Arms. One sports journalist described it as the greatest conversion since St Paul. It is almost as famous as the armada of ducks which, with timetable precision, swim up daily to the quay to be fed.


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We've already seen a Year of the Snake pack from New Balance and it looks like Vans is right behind them with an Old Skool pack of the same thought. Included in the collection are 5 different colorways each with a corresponding snakeskin print.
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Thank you to the Cardinals, the Kershaw County Recreation Department pee wee football team that wore Pink Glove Dance stickers on the back of their helmets this week. The team won their game 42-0, are #2 in their league and on their way to the playoffs. Go Cardinals! Go LMC's Pink Glove Dance!
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When I first stumbled across Mimi's weavings I stared at them for 20 minutes trying to process all the work that went into making them. We've become friends in the year or so since then but I still don't I understand how she does it. She is one of my favourite artists working today and I wanted to share some of things she's been making with her partner Brian, under the name Brook&Lyn.
Interview with Mimi Jung of Brook&Lyn
Jeff Hamada: Your dog, Sunday, is so cute.
Mimi Jung: Sunday has a bellybutton. I swear.
J: My dream is to drop everything and travel around the world eating things. When I get to LA to visit you guys, where should we go eat?
M: If I didn't have the world's most sensitive stomach I would join you. Ham Ji Pak is a small, no-fuss Korean restaurant that specializes in marinated pork bbq. Their potato stew is to die for. CaCao Mexicatessen has the best duck tacos, and Sapp Coffee Shop makes the most delicious jade noodles with real crab meat.
J: Ooh all those things sound so good! I know you like to cook, what kinda things have you been making at home lately? The Turkey Dumplings you posted awhile ago looked delicious.
M: These days I'm afraid cooking isn't a big priority due to time. Luckily we get weekly "farm fresh to you" deliveries which is keeping us relatively healthy. What's in the box dictates what I cook for the week.
J: What's the story behind the name, Brook&Lyn?
M: The idea started as a two-sided zine focusing on art and fashion, but it never took off due to funding. Since then Brook&Lyn has taken many forms. We often get asked if my name is "Brook" and if Brian is "Lyn". Thankfully (or sadly?) that is not the case.
J: I know you're moving away a bit from the jewelry and focusing more on your own art. Can you talk a little bit about your desire to explore photography, and make art objects?
M: I come from a fine arts background, so being part of the fashion world was sort of a fluke. I've enjoyed learning about jewelry and growing as a designer over the last few years, but getting back to my roots was always the plan.
J: What's the experience of working on a weaving like for you? Maybe not so much what you're doing technically, but perhaps what you think about while you're doing it.
M: I can't multi-task when weaving. I think it's like meditating. I have a general idea of where to take the design of the weaving, but since each weft takes a tremendous amount of time and patience, I can't really get ahead of myself. It's best to zone out and remain peaceful until I get to my next color block.
J: Is the whole weaving pre-planned from the start or do you have more of a freestyle approach?
M: I like to mix it up. If I'm doing a large scale weaving then it's important to have a general idea of the composition sine each section will take days to finish. For the smaller weavings most of the time I like to keep it open and let the process lead the way.
J: Tell me about your partner Brian's work. I've seen on your Instagram (@brookandlyn) that he builds your looms for you, is wood work his specialty?
M: Brian's background is in art direction. It took me six months to convince him to leave advertising to pursue his own projects. I really believe that if you are passionate about what you create then the money will follow. And that's been the case since we started. He finally made the jump and joined Brook&Lyn two-and-a-half years ago.
J: In what ways are you two the same?
M: His new sense of freedom threw him for a while, but now we're on the exact same path. His most recent interest is woodworking. He has the type of personality that gets obsessed with one thing, I'm the complete opposite. I tend to be interested in 50 things at once. He has no formal training in woodworking, but I'm so amazed at how fluent he has become. We're not trust fund kids, we're not independently wealthy, we work hard doing what we love and figured it out.
M: We're showing this sculpture at Parachute Market. The show takes place in the arts district, LA, and runs from 9/21 to 9/22.
J: I usually end interviews by asking about the last realization you had, could be big or small.
M: Small or big realization, for the first time I feel as though my multiple interests aren't seen as a lack of focus, but a body of work.
This last image is a piece Mimi made for Levi's out of scrap denim, it is her first weaving made using fabric and will be hung at their concept stores.
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Karpel Tunnel wrote:[S]ince you think we should base morals on 'survival', it would be good to define that would count as survival.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:some of these moralities support we not survive – anti-natalism
Karpel Tunnel wrote:We are this way. I don't see why I should just abstract out and respect in SHOULD terms evolution's intent for morals, but ignore evolution's result in making me/us the way I am/we are.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:[Y]ou are deciding to NOT work with morals the way we obviously have evolved to work with morals [...]
Karpel Tunnel wrote:[R]ationality tend to have a hubris that it can track all th[ese] [many variables and potential chains of causes].
Karpel Tunnel wrote:[H]ow do we know that morality is not a spandrel?
Karpel Tunnel wrote:even if it is not, how do we have an obligation to the intent of evolution, in what sense are beholden to funtion? Function, evolution, natural selection are not moral agents. What is it that puts us in some contractual commitment to following their intentions? If the argument is not that we are beholden but rather X is what morality is for, so we should use it as X, a more determinist connection, then we don't have to worry about adhering to the function, since whatever we do is a product of evolutionarily-created function. Once I am supposed to follow evolution, use my adaptions, well, how can I fail? And if I fail as an individual, I am still testing for my species and if my approach was poor it will be weeded out. No harm, no foul.
This is one of the areas I was probing around because I think it may be very hard for many adherents of functional morality to stay consistent. Perhaps not you. If survival is connected to genetically related progeny having progeny that are genetically related - iow sustaining genetically related individuals through time, transhumanism should be considered bad or evil - if we take the case of strong transhumanism where better substrates for consciounsess and existence are created and homo sapiens, as a genetic organism (and physically in general, outside the nucleus of cells also), are no longer present. We will have replaced ourselves with something else. At least in terms of genetic material.Carleas wrote:But, as promised, some thoughts on 'survival':
First, individual gene-line survival means an organism not dying until it produces offspring who are likely to not-die until they produce offspring.
At a group or society level, survival means the group continues to exist. It's a little vaguer here because the 'group' isn't somewhat amorphous, and there aren't discrete generations for reproduction, but a constant production and death of constituent members.
Defining the survival of any thing inherits the problems in defining that thing, i.e. the "can't step in the same river twice" problems. Moreover, where morality functions on the substrate-independent level of our existence (thoughts), it isn't clear whether the survival it requires is the survival of the substrate or the survival of the survival of the programs that run on it. Would morality support the transhumanist idea that we should abandon our bodies and upload our consciousness to silicon? Even if we take functional morality is true, I don't know that that question is settled.
I didn't say enough. Antinatalism is one of the moralities that evolution has given rise to. Right now it is a minority position. Perhaps it will become the majority or power morality. Then this is what evolution has led to. It might lead to our extinction, but evolution led to it. IF I coming from a now more minority position - before the anti-natalists sterilize all of us, push for my morality, which includes life, I must wonder, as the anti-natalists take over, if I am on the wrong side - if evolution has led to antinatalist morality and the anti-natalists win. Whatever happens would be functional, it might just not be what we want functional to be. IOW it was functional that dinosaurs became extinct. Evolution and natural selection are selecting to whatever fits, whatever fits, that is, whatever else exists - other species, the weather, etc. I don't really see where I should do anything other than prioritize what I want, and let natural selection see to the outcomes. Just like every other individual in other species. Because once I follow my interests and desires, including mammalian empthy, I am living out what I have been selected to be like. Whatever this leads to is functional, though it may not include my kind.Carleas wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:some of these moralities support we not survive – anti-natalism
Sure, but some morality is just wrong. Anti-natalism specifically is pretty clearly wrong, but that statement rests on the functional morality I'm advancing here.
If what you're asking for is which morality is the functional morality, I actually think that too is beyond the scope of this discussion. "There is an objective morality that we can discover" is a different claim from "X is the objective morality". I'm making the former claim here, and arguing that we should use the criteria of functionality to evaluate claims about the latter, but I am not making a specific claim about the latter.
Let's take this last bit first. 1) I think it is complicated. First, immediately, I want to stress that there is always the option of delaying judgment or agnosticism. Reason is not infallible - and is, often, guided by emotions and assumptions we are aware of and then also often by emotions and assumptions we are not aware of. So when in a real contradiction between emotions and reason, we might, especially if we do not seem to immediately lose anything a) delay choice or 2) make a choice but keep an agnosticism about whether it was the right one. 3) it depends for me on what reason, whose reason, and for that matter whose emotions/intuition. 4) a problem with the choice is that emotions and reason are mixed. It is muddy in there. Reason depends on emotions, especially when we are talking about how humans should interact - iow what seems reasonable will include emotional reactions to consequences, prioritizing inside reasoning itself, the ability to evaluate one's reasoning (such as, have I looked at the evidence long enough? which is evaluated with emotional qualia (see Damasio) and of course emotions are often affected strongly by memes, what is presented as reasonable, assumptions in society and culture, etc. When someone claims to be on the pure reason side of an argument, I immediately get wary. I just don't meet any people without motives, emotions, biases and so on. If we are trying to determine the height of a tree, ok I may dismiss emotion based objections after the rational team used three different measuring devices and come to the same measurement, despite it seeming off to the emotional team. But when dealing with how should we treat each other.....Carleas wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:We are this way. I don't see why I should just abstract out and respect in SHOULD terms evolution's intent for morals, but ignore evolution's result in making me/us the way I am/we are.
I don't disagree with this idea or those in the surrounding paragraph, but let me make an analogy.
Once, on a hot summer night, I awoke with intense nausea. I laid in bed feeling wretched for a minute staring at the ceiling, and the nausea passed. I closed my eyes to sleep again and soon again felt intense nausea. I opened my eyes, and shortly the nausea passed again. I did this a few more times as my rational faculties slowly kicked in, and then noticed that my bed was vibrating slightly. A fan that I'd placed at the foot of the bed was touching the bed frame, and creating a barely perceptible vibration. I put it together that the nausea was in fact motion sickness. I moved the fan, the bed stopped shaking, and I slept the rest of the night without incident.
The point here is that motion sickness is an evolved response to certain feelings of motion. In particular, our brains are concerned that certain unnatural sensations of motion are actually the result of eating something toxic. The nausea is a response that, if taken to its logical end, will cause us to purge what we've eaten, in the hopes that any toxins will be purged with it. In the evolutionary context, that's a useful response. But we did not evolve in the presence of beds and fans, and so the way we've evolved misleads us into thinking we're ill when in fact we're perfectly fine.
A similar thing can happen with morality, and understanding morality as a product of evolution, as a mental trait that evolved in a specific context and suited to that context, and not necessarily to this context, may let us "move the fan" of morality, i.e. shed moral claims that are clearly at odds with what morality was meant to do. Given a few thousand years and a few hundred generations of life in this context, we should expect evolution to get us there on its own, but we don't have the luxury of that.
So, yes, we are this way, there is some information in our emotions and moral intuitions and we should pay attention to them, just as we should take nausea seriously. But we can examine them in other ways at the same time. We can appreciate the ways in which evolution's result is inadequate to its purpose, and rely on the other results of evolution (rationality and the view from nowhere) to exert a countervailing drive.
You yourself make a few similar points further down, and I basically agree with them: our moral intuitions and emotions are not for nothing, they can be better than our reason for making decisions in certain cases, and we should treat them as real and expected and important in our decision making. But we should also treat them as subject to rational refutation. And when reason and emotion conflict in making statements of fact about the world, reason should prevail (though perhaps you don't agree with that).
The cardiac surgeon, in all liklihood, is working on someone who smoked or overate and did not move around very much. And if they did, then the cardiac surgeon is adding a way of working on top of what evolution set us out to do. But even more importantly, if we are to take from evolution what morality's function is, why would we then ignore what evolution has given us. So it is that juncture I am focused on. I don't have problems with technology per se. IOW my argument is not, hey that's not natural - with all the problems inherent in that - but ratherCarleas wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:[Y]ou are deciding to NOT work with morals the way we obviously have evolved to work with morals [...]
Yes, I think that's right. But so too are cardiac surgeons deciding not to work with hearts the way we evolved to work with hearts. The project of moral philosophy, as I understand it, must involve some very unusual treatment of moral intuitions, ones that are obscene to our evolved first impression in the way that delivering a baby by C-section is obscene to someone who only understands it as stabbing a pregnant woman in the belly.
They may be pompous and unjustifiably self-assured systems of belief, but the jury is still out on whether they 1) added to both survival AND better lives or 2) whether they still are better than secular humanism, say. Testing such things is not easy.Carleas wrote:Karpel Tunnel wrote:[R]ationality tend to have a hubris that it can track all th[ese] [many variables and potential chains of causes].
I don't think this problem is unique to a rationally-grounded moral system. Emotions too can be a basis for hubris; emotion-based religions are some of the most pompous and unjustifiably self-assured systems of belief that we've ever seen. We should not be overconfident.
I disagree. I make very rapid decisions all the time whether to go with intuition or to pause and analyze and reflect. Actually think nearly the opposite of what you said. We cannot make such decisions without intuition. Certainly reasoning can come in also. But reasoning can never it self decide when it should be set in motion, when it has done enough work, when it is satisfied it listened to the right experts, when it is satisfied with its use of semantics in its internal arguments.But reason's advantage is that it scales: we can use reason to analyse other modes of thought, and even reason itself. Through, we can identify situations where relying on intuition is better than relying on deliberate reflection. We can't do that emotionally.
Actually think if we go into the phenomenology of checking out an argument, we will find that intuition rings a bell, and then we zoom in to find out why. Especially in tricky arguments.We can rationally examine emotion, and while we can feel things about reason, we can't get very far with it.
I'd need to see the science. I am not even sure this is the case. If you are chaotically amoral, well, that leads to a lot of bad reactions, unless you are some kind of autocrate - so in your home, in your company, in your country, if you are the boss, you can probably get away with a lot, and in fact those guys often have a lot of kids, all over the place. Hence they are evolutionarily effective. But more pragmatic amoral people, I see no reason for them not to thrive. Maybe, just maybe less in modern society, and maybe less in tribal society. I think they have many benefits in between, even the chaotic ones. In fact a lot of the names in history books probably had amoral tendencies...and quite a few kids.Carleas wrote:TKarpel Tunnel wrote:[H]ow do we know that morality is not a spandrel?
How do we know any evolved trait isn't a spandrel? We can look at whether morality influences reproductive success, whether it imposes costs that would require a benefit to offset, whether it's been selected against in isolated populations, etc. I think all these things suggest that it isn't a spandrel, that it's been selected for as part of an evolved reproductive strategy:
- Amoral people tend to suffer socially.
I do wonder how they do on creating babies however.Psychopaths can and do succeed, but they depend on the moral behavior of others, and they are also employing a high risk, high reward strategy (many psychopaths are killed or imprisoned, but many others are managers or politicians).
If it is in all populations it might be neutral or only slightly negative functionally. A byproduct of some other cognitive capacities that helped us. AGain testing this hypothesis is hard.- Morality entails evolutionary costs, e.g. forgoing actions with clear immediate reproductive benefits like theft or rsources, murder of rivals, or rape of fertile women. That suggests that it has attendant benefits, and that forgoing these provides a reproductive benefit in the long term, e.g. reciprocal giving and social support, not being murdered, and better mating opportunities long term.
- To my knowledge, morality exists in all human populations, including isolated populations. The isolation may not have been sufficiently long to permit evolutionary divergence, but given the presence of psychopaths it seems that the genes for amorality were there to be selected for and haven't come to dominate any society.
I think we have problems on the diet end of your justification, not because of faulty desires, but rather to cultural problems. I think sugar is a drug and we use it to self-medicate. Psychotropic drug. You know that old thing about rats triggering cocaine being made available or stimulating the pleasure center of the brain? The idea that if we could we would just destroy ourselves? Well they redid that experiment but gave the rats complicated interesting environments and very few got addicted. And I can imagine that even the nice complicated homes they gave the rats probably had less of the smells that rats bodies expect and lacked the nuance there is in what was once the original environment of rats. I think, just as in the cardiac surgeon example, we are using culture to fight nature that is having a problem because of culture.Consider the example of motion sickness, or of sugar, or of any other evolved predispositions what we can rationally understand to be actively counter to the reasons for which they evolved. We have intuitions that motion not dependent on our moving our limbs means we've been poisoned and need to purge, and that sugar and fat are good and we should eat them all as much as possible. But we know that these are false, that our evolved tendencies are misleading us, and they are misleading us because of the context in which we evolved in which such motion did mean poison, and sugar was a precious resource.
In the 'are there objective morals sense?' I am certainly a moral nihilist. On the other hand this does not mean we need to stop determining what we want. We can ignore whatever we think evolution intended and decide what we want. No easy task, of course, given out wants, natural and culturally created, often by those with great power in their interests. But given that as social mammals we have self-interest but also empathy and tend to collaborate, there is room for desire to create what may not be morals but heuristics. Desire (and emotions and intuition) in collaboration with reason.So too did morality evolve in that context, ought-ness is derived from our evolutionary past, and we can look at it in that light. Without reference to its evolved purpose, it has no meaning. If we take the position that the evolved meaning of morality is not relevant, it seems the only alternative is moral nihilism.
Ecmandu wrote:Morality is not about survival in some form, it's about the quality of it.
I am not sure if we have abstracted it before we had evolutionary theory, but we certainly had morality out of that context and even so now. IOW often morality goes against, at least, so it might seen, my own benefits in relation to natural selection as an individual, and at the species level is not based on this consideration, at least consciously. Let's for the sake of argument accept that morality was selected for. OK. And in what form. Well, it hasn't, generally, been in the form - Whatever leads to survival is the Good. What got selected for was a species that framed moral issues in other ways. So if we want to respect natural selection, we would continue with that unless we have evidence that this is not working.Carleas wrote:The role this plays in my argument about morality is that we can't abstract morality out of its evolutionary context.
Perhaps I'll reword in response to this: consider the possibility that having moralities that go beyond, do not focus (just on) survival or even mainly on survival is vastlyi more effective. That we have other ideals leads to more cohesion or whatever, as one possible side effect.We can look at morality as a phenomenon in the world, observe it empirically, ask what it does and why it exists, and in so doing discover what it means to say that one ought or ought not do X. The only objective reference of those terms is that evolutionary origin, the role morality played and why it exists. The only recourse for morality is thus to its function: it exists because it improved the odds of survival of the individuals and groups who shared the trait.
I think we need a definition of survival. Is it the continuation of homo sapien genes? Anything beyond that?But there is a predictive element to this position: we're talking about a prosepective best-guess about the effect a system will have on survival.
Antinatalism combined with cloning and whatever the rich decide are the best techs to keep their lives long would certainly seem to have a good chance. I mentioned earlier some dystopian scenarios that might very well have great survival outlooks. I think it would be odd to not immediately come in with quality of life, fairness, justice type moral objections, even though the truth is the survival of homo sapiens might best served by some horror show.Similarly, in prospect, we have every reason to think that antinatalism is not a good moral system under the metric of survival.
Our modes of choosing partners and being social have changed a lot over time. I see no reason to assume that further changes will not take place. We can control much more. Food production from hunter gatherer to ancient agriculture to modern agriculture to gm agriculture with crops that cannot breed. Why assume that the 'best' method for human production will not radically shift. And it's not like they are not working toward that out there.I think we can say similar things about your proposed reductios (transhumanism and AI breeding a new batch of humans for one generation every x-thousand years). It may be that those methods produce survival better, and that could be shown by someone trying those systems and actually surviving. But regular reproduction and genetic evolution have proved a pretty effective means of survival, it's reasonable to think that they will more effectively continue our survival than exotic systems like the AI harvesting, breeding, and euthanizing generations of humans.
Here you mention seeing society survive. There would be a society it would just be different, but further why should evolution care about the specifics of human interaction. If the point is homo sapien survival. It seems to me you are smuggling in other values than survival in that word 'society'.Moreover, if what we want to see survive is society, then a bunch of DNA held in stasis doesn't well achieve that goal (this goes to what particular form of survival is best, which I don't think is answered by functional morality, nor does it need to be answered for the purposes of making a case for functional morality).
I would think it will. I would guess that it is already in place, in many ways, in the business world and that Amazon could use functional morality to justify its panoptican, radically efficiency focused, horrific workplaces. That words like dignity, sense of self, fairness no longer have any priority. Now a sophisticated functional morality, one that looks way into the future might find that such business practices somehow reduce survivability....but...I don't mean to be too dismissive of oddness as a weakness, I do think intuition is often useful as an indicator of subtle logical mistakes. But I also think our oddness tolerance should be properly calibrated: even given that we're committed to the positions you propose, the scenarios themselves are so odd that any moral conclusions about them will feel odd. If functional morality gets odd at the margins, so does every moral system I've ever seen. We have poor moral intuitions about AI, because we have never actually encountered one. In every-day situations, functional morality will work out to support many naive moral intuitions, and will approximate many sophisticated consequentialist and deontological systems. Are there any everyday situations where functional morality gets it wildly wrong?
Jakob wrote:So Karp, you see morality as a form of leverage (human) nature has on its most powerful parts?
Not sure if I summarize you right. I like the idea I come away with in any case.
Also I agree/think that evolution can not be explained by using the term evolution.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I have to admit I am too lazy to go back and understand the points you are responding to. I will just repond below to points I have opinions about now, reactions that may even contradict things I've said before.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Let's say that romance is really just pheramones and dopamine driven altered states. Let's that it is actually the best description. It still might radically damage humans to think that way.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I think we need a definition of survival. Is it the continuation of homo sapien genes? Anything beyond that?
Here you mention seeing society survive. There would be a society it would just be different, but further why should evolution care about the specifics of human interaction. If the point is homo sapien survival. It seems to me you are smuggling in other values than survival in that word 'society'.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I actually think that some rather dystopic solution would be most likely to extend the survival of homo sapien genes and lives.
Carleasl wrote:Are there any everyday situations where functional morality gets it wildly wrong?
Carleas wrote:I would think it will. I would guess that it is already in place, in many ways, in the business world and that Amazon could use functional morality to justify its panoptican, radically efficiency focused, horrific workplaces. That words like dignity, sense of self, fairness no longer have any priority. Now a sophisticated functional morality, one that looks way into the future might find that such business practices somehow reduce survivability....but...
1) maybe it is better to start up from with other criteria - even if they all boil down somehow to survivability which I doubt
2) I suspect that some other nightmares will be just peachy under functional morality and in any case we will have no tools to fight against them. We would then have to demonstrate not that many of these things we value are damaged but rather that this process damages survivability, perhaps decades or hundreds of years in the future.
If we limit morality to survivability, I suspect that we will limit our ability to protect our experiences agasint those with power.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Let's say that romance is really just pheramones and dopamine driven altered states. Let's that it is actually the best description. It still might radically damage humans to think that way.
That's not quite getting two points I think. 1) Evolution led me to developing a morality in a certain manner. It selected for this. It has also selected for the way I think about it and couch it in language. You are suggesting that we now develop it in a different manner and think, in words, about it in another manner. I have both gut and rational negative reactions to the way you want to couch it. Your argument is based on the idea that evolution has selected morality in a certain manner and we should consciously do this in this manner. But evolution has not selected for that doing, at least, not yet. There are other ways to modify our morality that do not rely on what I consider an extremely restricted heuristic - that which increases survival is good. I am not arguing that my way of viewing morality is wrong and the truth, if different could be harmful, but rather suggesting that what has been selected for offers a wide range of heuristics - for example not just focusing on survival - and I see no reason to pare things down. 2) you say above that a moral obligation is to go against one's nature - where it is problematic, I presume - and evaluate only in terms of survival. But our heuristics take in more factors and my tribe wants that, though they do not necessarily agree on priorities or even factors, none of them, not a single one, I have ever encountered, wants us to evaluate something only in terms of survival. That's really quite mammalian of us, and certainly primate of us. And humans as apex primates, I think, we would want to be very careful about streamlining the complex heuristics that at least millions of years of trial and error have developed. Even if, just like our eating, we may be led astray by things that worked on the veldt.This is a good analogy because it distinguishes our positions well. My attempt here is to provide "the best description" of morality. You say that you are "not sure why [you] have an obligation to go against [your] nature and view morality or preferred social relations as to be evaluated only in terms of survival", and my response is that that is just what it means to have a moral obligation. Insofar as "morality" means anything, insofar as it means anything that one "ought" to do something, it means that doing that thing will advance survival, for oneself or ones tribe.
We have other ways of dealing with these problems than, for example, reducing fears, though this is often the current approach to what are seen as irrational reactions - that is the entire pharma/psychiatric approach to not feeling so good.And I agree with your observation that "[w]hat got selected for was a species that framed moral issues in other ways". So too was flavor selected for rather than nutrients, and instinctive fear rather than insect biology, and pleasure and pain rather than reproduction and anatomy. And just as we have used the study of nutrition to recognize that some things that taste good are nonetheless harmful, and that some insects that scare us are nonetheless harmless, and that some things that feel good are bad and other that hurt are good, so too can we decide to overcome our moral intuitions in favor of an explicit morality that, while devoid of romance, is empirically rigorous.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I actually think that some rather dystopic solution would be most likely to extend the survival of homo sapien genes and lives.
Nice point. To better put my objection: I see no objections, in terms of the survivability criterion, in scenerios that I think pretty much everyone would be horrified by, guessing also, including you. I have given some examples. You may have argued against them. But I think they are very hard to criticise with the one remaining moral criterion: does it secure our survival well. If we can come up with horrifying dystopias - horrifying to us - that nevertheless, at least on paper, seem to meet the single criterion, I think that speaks against having that single criterion.First, I'll note that this is a bit question begging. A solution is dystopic in part for violating some moral principle, so to some extent this smuggles in intuitive morality as a given.
I tink there is a category confusion here, but I will have to mull. I am not sure the morality/technology analogy works. If we have more information, that informs our choices. I am not saying we simply follow impulses. And we often have complicated impulses pulling us in a few ways. Generallly in our more complex moralities, we don't just follow impulses. We look at consequences. The difference with your methodology is you have one criterion. That could be handled impulsively also.Second, as I said above, I think intuitive morality will fail us more and more frequently as time goes on. To use a near-term example that you bring up: in the past, we just didn't know what genetic pairings would produce good or bad outcomes, so we left it to chance and instinct. But chance and instinct frequently misled us, and we ended up with immense suffering over the course of history as a result. Pre-modern societies just killed children who didn't develop right, and many women died in childbirth as the result of genetic abnormalities in their developing babies. So if we suggest that greater deliberation or intervention in genetic pairings is bad going forward is somehow immoral, we need to weigh it against the immense suffering that still happens as a result.
Yes, and we can make those moral decisions based on that information coupled with a variety of moral priorities. Or we can use that information and use it in relation to the single one you present. What if the AI decides that certain birth defects are beneficial because they lead to a population that is easier to control. Humans who cannot walk, cannot lead a rebellion against the suvival society's rigid controls. That humans still have irrational desires for good quality of life is part and parcel of their DNA, but if they are born without feet, they are less mobile, easier to track, easier to protect, and less likely to successfully overturn a society that they irrational judge as wanting because of stone age desires.I'm not arguing in favor of such intervention, rather I mean to say that merely knowing, merely developing the ability to predict genetic outcomes in advance requires us to make a moral decision that we never had to make before.
But then the AI might find that increasing depression leads to greater stability and better control. I would throw in heuristics that include potential for happiness, freedom of movement, room to create, freedom to associate and a wide range of others. But these might very likely seem not to add a bit to survivability as long as top down control is very effective. They might even be viewed a negative. A Matrix like scenario where we are not used as an energy source, but placed in Virtual realities and vatted seems like a very stable and controllable solution that might be viewed as top by AIs. I suppose it might even be pleasant, but I don't want it. And the AIs might find no reason, given the single criterion, to have it be pleasant.It may be creepy to centrally control or regulate genetic pairing, but if we know that \(a + b\) will create resource hungry and burdensome locus of suffering, and \(a + c\) will create a brilliant and productive self-actualized person who will spread happiness wherever she goes, there is at least as strong an argument for the creepiness of not intervening. (Note that I don't use "creepy" in the pejorative sense here, I intend it as shorthand for the intuitive moral reaction and, subjectively, I think it captures what intuitive moral rejection feels like).
Serendipper wrote:Carleas wrote:Serendipper wrote:You're good with people, so teach people to be as you are.
I appreciate you saying so, but I think this thread shows otherwise!
Well, you concede points and have a sense of fairness and equity that's unique among forum-people. You don't see it about yourself? Surely I'm not the only one to notice. Lao Tzu said "To lead people, walk behind them." and you either do it innately or have learned somewhere along the way. I'll point it out the next time I see you do it.
Carleas wrote:Totally understandable
your response was still good and well appreciated.
This is a good analogy because it distinguishes our positions well.
And I agree with your observation
Carleas wrote:I've been reluctant to narrowly define survival for two reasons:
First, I'll note that this is a bit question begging.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:After posting what's below and then mulling I think I can boil down my two objections and be more clear than my groping.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I am wary of reductionist approaches
Karpel Tunnel wrote:It may also correlate with dangers also, I will concede.
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Nice point. Better put, I see no objections
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I think there is a category confusion here, but I will have to mull.
Some of Carleas' opinions could possibly drive me crazy, but he is an exploratory thinker and poster. He is actually interested in critiques, concedes points, responds to at least many of the points I make, such that the any frustration I feel is usually about how hard it is to make certain points in a clear way and then also the problems where values and priorities are different. But the conversation itself, his side of it, is how I wish most philosophical discussions were carried out. Nice that you noticed.Serendipper wrote:I don't mean to put you guys under a microscope, but I just wanted to encourage more of this type of behavior. Functional morality?
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Nice that you noticed.
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