The Mother: There were moments... moments absolutely wonderful. But without thought, without thought.  I told you, I have seen... it is not “seen” as a picture is seen; it is to, within a certain place. I never saw or felt anything so beautiful as that, and it was not felt, it was...


The Mother: I do not know how to explain it. There were moments absolutely wonderful, wonderful, unique. And this was not thought, I could not even describe — how to describe? You can begin to describe only when you begin to think.


The Mother: Ah! That was very interesting. It was very interesting because I saw it like this (), it was changing. Someone was approaching me: there was a change in it. Something happened to someone: there was a change in it.


The Mother: I had near me Y and Z; my child, one day... I do not know what happened to them: they were superhuman; one day when  probably in appearance I was in danger, I do not know, one day, during the whole day, images (not “images”: these places where I was), it was so wonderfully beautiful, harmonious... it was inexpressible, inexpressible. And then, the least thing that changed in their consciousness, ah, there, all began to change!  It was a kind of perpetual kaleidoscope, day and night.


The Mother: If one could note that down... it was unique; it was unique. And the body was inside there, yes, almost porous — porous, without resistance as though the thing was passing through.  I have had some most wonderful hours, I believe the most wonderful that one can have upon earth.   And then, it was so expressive and so revealing.


The Mother: So expressive. One night, for two hours, these temples of which I speak (it is not physical), so immense, so majestic... the deities, my child! not images. And I know what it is.


The Mother: And then the state of consciousness of Eternity, oh!... as though above all circumstances.  There were things, but how to relate them?... Impossible, impossible, not even sufﬁcient consciousness to be able to write.   Ah!


The Mother: I became aware that the cells, everywhere like this, all the time, all the time were repeating their Mantra, all the time, all the time.   It is for this, well, one cannot say that it was suffering, one cannot say that it was ill; this is not possible, not possible.   I have found some old papers, I do not know what they are.  There is an envelope from you.   Aphorisms


The Mother: It is wonderful!  It is terribly true.   Even yesterday, without even reading it, I had a long vision on the subject; it is astonishing. But it was on such a different plane....


The Mother: Yes, when you take the higher part of your mind as judge of your action, then you can “deceive yourself in good faith”.  That is to say, the mind is incapable of seeing the truth and it judges by its own capacity, which is limited — not only limited but unconscious of the truth; so for the mind, it is in good faith, it does as well as it can. It is this.  Naturally, for those who are fully conscious of their psychic, it is not possible to deceive themselves, for if they refer their problem to the psychic, they can from there have the divine  answer.


The Mother: But even for those who are in relation with their psychic, the answer has not the same character as the mind’s, which is precise, categorical, absolute, asserting itself; it is something more of a than an assertion, something which can still have different interpretations in the mind.  I come back to my experience of yesterday. After having looked at it, I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to reproach a human being who does as well as he can according to his consciousness, for how can he go beyond his consciousness?... This is just the error that the majority of people make: they judge one another according to their own consciousness, but the other has not their consciousness! Therefore they cannot judge (I speak only of people of goodwill, naturally).


The Mother: According to the vision of a more total or higher consciousness, another person deceives himself, but according to the person himself, he does to the utmost whatever he believes he must do.  This amounts to saying that it is absolutely impossible to lay the blame upon anyone who acts sincerely according to his own limited consciousness. And in fact, if we come to that, everyone in the world has a limited consciousness, excepting Consciousness. It is only Consciousness which is not limited.  But every manifestation is necessarily limited, unless it comes out of itself and unites itself with the supreme Consciousness, then there...


The Mother: In what conditions can that be done?  It is the problem of identiﬁcation with the Supreme, which is the Supreme One — One which is All.  ( )  There is a whole side of human thought that has the conception that identiﬁcation with the supreme Consciousness can come only by annulling the individual creation, but Sri Aurobindo precisely has said that it is possible without abolishing the creation.


The Mother: They have this notion that creation must be abolished, for they limit the creation to the human level — it is impossible for  man, but it is possible for the supramental being. And it is this that will make the supramental being essentially different: he will be able, without losing a limited form, to unite his consciousness with the supreme Consciousness.  But for man, it is impossible. That I know.  As I have said, you have it, you have the experience, but as soon as you want to express it, it is gone, it becomes again...


The Mother: ( ) . That is to say, the substance of which we are built up is not sufﬁciently puriﬁed, enlightened, transformed (it does not matter what word) to express the supreme Consciousness without deforming it.  ( )


The Mother: It is a certain opacity in Matter, in the substance that makes it unable to manifest the Consciousness... and it is this same (I do not know how to say it) opacity that gives it the sense of existing.  This is part of the experience of these last days. I have lived for... I do not know, for weeks, in a kind of ﬂuidity — transparent ﬂuidity — and as this transparent ﬂuidity is replaced by this something that I call now “opacity”, there comes a kind of concretisation of the existence of the body.


The Mother: So, the direct contact of the psychic being with the substance of the body, without any intermediary, gives the sensation... is it a “sensation”? I do not know; it is not a sensation, it is not a perception; it is a kind of “felt vision” (and this vision is very precise, very precise) of the value of vibrations in relation to a higher vibration which is (all that I can say about it) more directly the expression of the supreme Vibration.  It is very difﬁcult to express, but the body is going through an experience which it never had ; it is as though passing from an imprecision to a precision, from a kind of ﬂuidity to... it is not a concrete thing, but from a thing ﬂuid — ﬂuid and imprecise — to a thing precise. All the happenings (no matter how small), which  vary, are the occasion for a new perception.


The Mother: Before, everything was ﬂuid and imprecise; now it is beginning to be more precise — more precise, more exact. But it loses a little of its ﬂuidity.  It is very difﬁcult to express.  I had never thought of it. It is strange, it is not willed.


The Mother: Just now I have had the experience. So it is not yet very clear.  Indeed, the mind gives a precision that is lacking when it is not there. Its role in creation is just to give precision, to explain, and at the same time to limit.  There is no advantage!


The Mother: It is altogether certain that when the Supramental manifests, it will replace the mental precision (how to say it?) that diminishes — the precision that limits and therefore falsiﬁes things in part — by a clarity of vision, another kind of vision that does not diminish. It is that which is being built up.  Indeed, it can be said (it is not exactly this): in order to give precision, the mind limits and separates; and evidently there is a precision that can come from a more exact vision, without division and without separation. And it is that precision which will be the precision of the supramental vision. With the precision will come, at the same time, the vision of the of all things to one another, without separating them.


The Mother: But that is something in preparation. It comes as a ﬂash, for a minute, and then lapses back into its old way.  The same can be said of the vital. The vital gives an intensity which nothing else seems capable of giving; well, this same intensity exists in the Supramental, but without division. It is an intensity that does not separate.


The Mother: These two experiences I have had, but very momentarily.  These are things that are being worked out just at present.   I have had an interesting experience.... Not last night, but the night before, someone, whom I shall not name, told me, “I am wholly down in the physical consciousness: no more meditation, and the Divine has become something up there, so far away.” Then immediately, as he was speaking, the whole room got ﬁlled with the divine Presence.


The Mother: I told him, “Not up there: , here itself.” And at that moment, everything, the whole atmosphere... it was as though the air had changed into the divine Presence (), well, everything was touched, touched, pervaded, but with... the thing that was particularly there was a dazzling Light, a Peace like this (), a Power, and then a Sweetness... something...


The Mother: one had the feeling that it could melt a rock.  And it did not go away. It stayed.  It came in that way, and then it stayed.  And so the whole night it was like that — everything.


The Mother: Even now, the two are there: a little of the ordinary consciousness, as if in a mechanical way, but I have only to be quiet or concentrated for a moment and it is there. And it is the experience of the , you understand, physical, material, the experience of the body: everything, everything is full, full; there is only, and we are like... everything is as though shrivelled, a dried up rind, something like that, dried up. One has the feeling that things are (not entirely, but superﬁcially) hardened, dried up, and that is why you do not feel That. That is why you do not feel Him; otherwise, all is That, That, there is That. You cannot breathe without breathing Him in; you move, it is within Him that you move; you are... everything, everything, the whole universe is within Him — but, physically, physically.


The Mother: It is the cure for this “drying up” that I am now looking for.  I feel it is something fantastic, do you understand?   And then when I listen, He tells me things also. I said to Him, “But then why do people always go up there?” And with the most extraordinarily unusual humour the answer comes: “Because they want me to be very far from their consciousness!”


The Mother: Things like that, but not formulated in such a precise manner: impressions only. Many a time — many — I had heard: “Why do they go so far in search of what is” — of course there are tenets that said: It is within you — “what is everywhere?”  I did not say it to this person, ﬁrst because the experience was not, as it is now, a continuous thing.  And then there was this particularly:, no dogmas, no ﬁxed teachings. One must avoid — one must avoid at all cost the thing becoming a new religion.


The Mother: Because as soon as it is formulated in a way that is elegant and imposing and has a force, You have the feeling that He is everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, everywhere; there is nothing else. And we do not know it because we are... shrunken, I do not know how to say it, dried up. We have made great efforts () to separate ourselves — and succeeded! Succeeded, but succeeded only in our consciousness, not in fact. In fact, It is there.


The Mother: It is there. There is That. Whatever we know, whatever we see, whatever we touch, it is as though bathing, ﬂoating in That; but it is penetrable; it is penetrable, quite penetrable: That passes through it. The sense of separation comes from this ().  The experience came, perhaps, because for several days there was a very great concentration to ﬁnd out, not exactly the why or the how, but the fact, the fact of the separation, everything appearing so stupid, so ugly....


The Mother: I was assailed, assailed by various living memories of all kinds of experiences (all kinds: books, pictures, cinemas, and life, people, things), memories of this body, all the memories that might be called “anti-divine”, in which the body had the sensation of something that was repulsive or evil, like negations of the divine  Presence. It began in that way; for two days I was like that, so much so that the body almost sank into despair. And then the experience came and after that it did not move. It did not budge. It came: brrff! ﬁnished, and it did not budge.


The Mother: Well, the experiences come and then they withdraw: it did not move. At this moment it is there. And then the body tries to be ﬂuid (), it tries to melt; it tries, it understands what it is. It tries — it does not succeed, evidently! (), but its consciousness knows.  Only, the experience has its effects: people have felt relief all of a sudden; one or two were completely cured.


The Mother: And when something goes wrong in the body, it need not ask: quite naturally it is set right.  And that has not even given to the body the need to do nothing and be wholly concentrated upon its experience: no, there is no desire, nothing at all. Like this, to ﬂoat in a luminous immensity... which is within! It is not only outside: it is within. It is within.


The Mother: That (), that which appears as separate, truly the feeling is that it is... I do not know how to say it, but it is real only in the distortion of the consciousness, but not the human consciousness: something has happened, something has happened in the consciousness.... ( ) do not understand.  ( )


The Mother: All the theories and explanations and stories that lie at the base of each religion, all that seems to me... an amusement. And then one wonders, one wonders... I will tell you one thing: might it not be a comedy that the Lord has played to Himself?  But it is difﬁcult to say. I have had days when I have lived truly all the horrors of creation (and in the consciousness of their horror), and then that has brought this experience, and... all the horror has disappeared.


The Mother: And these were not at all psychological things, but rather physical sufferings, yes, particularly physical suffering. I have seen it — a physical suffering that lasts, that does not stop, that lasts day and night. And then all of a sudden, instead of being in this state of consciousness, you are in that of this exclusive divine Presence. Pain gone!


The Mother: And it was physical, altogether physical, with a physical reason. Yes, the doctors would say, “It is because of this, because of that and that”, quite a material thing, altogether physical; and pouf! it goes away.... The consciousness changes and back it comes.


The Mother: If one remains sufﬁciently long in the true consciousness, the appearance, that is to say, what we call physical “fact”, that itself disappears, not merely the pain.... I feel as though I had touched (there is no mind which understands, thank God!), I had touched the central experience.  Only, it is just a small beginning.  One would have the feeling, one would be certain of having touched the supreme Secret only if the physical were transformed.... According to the experience (just the little experience of a detail), it must be like that.


The Mother: And then, will it be at ﬁrst body in which this Consciousness will express itself, or should all, all be transformed?... A phenomenon of consciousness.  But it is so concrete, yes, it is that!  ( )


The Mother: Only, the other consciousness is still there.... Now this morning, I saw a considerable number of people. As each one came, I was looking at him (there was no “I” that was looking: for it was so, I was looking at him), the eyes were ﬁxed and then it was the perception and the vision (but not the vision as one understands it: it is altogether a phenomenon of consciousness), the consciousness of the Presence, the Presence that penetrates this kind of shell, the hard thing; it penetrates, it penetrates, it is everywhere; and then when I am looking, when the eyes  are ﬁxed, that becomes something like a concentration. But this is certainly an altogether temporary and intermediary state, because the other consciousness (the consciousness which sees things and deals with them, which is busy with them as usual, only with the perception of what is happening in the individual, what he is thinking — not so much what he is thinking, but what he is feeling, how he is), that is there. Evidently this too is necessary in order to maintain the contact, but...


The Mother: Obviously, it is still an experience, it is not an established fact. What I mean by “established fact” is the consciousness established in such a way that nothing else exists, that that alone is present — it is not yet so.  ( )  And you?


The Mother: What have you got to tell me?  Ah!    (Mother laughs)  (


The Mother: )  But this notion of the Supramental “coming down”, and a Consciousness “having entered”, is translation.... The experience  came as the experience of an eternal fact, not at all as a thing that was happening. All that must be the outcome of states of consciousness, certainly. Whether there is something beyond, I do not know, but in any case, of this I had the positive experience.


The Mother: These are movements of consciousness. Why, how?... I do not know. Only, if one looks from the other side, the fact that something belonging to this earthly domain as it is has become conscious, gives the impression that something has “arrived”.... I do not know if I can make myself understood...


The Mother: I mean to say that this body is absolutely like all the rest of the earth, but it happens that for some reason it has become conscious in the other way: well, that normally must translate itself in earthly consciousness as an “arrival”, a “descent”, a “beginning”.... But is it a beginning? What is it that has “arrived”? ... You understand, there is the Lord (I call it “Lord” because of the convenience of language, for otherwise...), there is nothing but the Lord, there is nothing else, nothing else exists. All things happen within Him, consciously.


The Mother: And we are like... grains of sand in this Inﬁnity; only we are the Lord with the capacity to be conscious of the Lord’s consciousness. That is exactly what it is.  ( ) Before this experience, at the time when I was in the consciousness of all the sufferings, the horrors of physical life, at a certain moment something came (which did not “speak”; one is obliged to use words, but all this happens without mentalisation), it was an impression: if I translated, I would say, “Aren’t you afraid of going mad?” You understand?


The Mother: It is only a translation. And then the body answered spontaneously: “We are all mad, we cannot become more mad than we are!” And forthwith, it became calm.   (


The Mother: )  It is here that this consciousness lies ().   That () is light, light ( ). But in this body, it is here that it lies, this consciousness (). I mean the consciousness...


The Mother: that one is in the Lord.  I know, the consciousness that is there knows that this way of speaking is altogether childish, but it prefers this childish way to something that would try to be exact and would be mental.   It continues.... The body feels that it is beginning to understand.  Naturally, for it there is no thought, no thought at all; but these are states of consciousness — states of consciousness that complete each other, replace each other....


The Mother: And it goes so far as to ask how one can know by thought; for it, the only way to know, to cognise, is consciousness. And this is becoming more and more clear from the general point of view, and it applies it, it applies this to itself; that is to say, a work is being done so that all parts of the body may become conscious, not merely conscious of the forces received, of the forces passing through it, but also of the action of its inner functioning.  It is becoming more and more precise.  And this above all: everything for it is a phenomenon of consciousness, and when it wants to do something, it almost no longer understands what it means to know how to do it. It is necessary that it be of the way to do it.


The Mother: And not only for itself but for all the people around it. It has become such an evident fact.... So, to learn something from somebody else — for example, to learn the way to do a thing: for it, it is only by doing the thing with the consciousness that it applies that it can learn.  And what someone explains, what someone else can explain, it seems... this appears hollow — hollow, empty.


The Mother: And it is becoming more and more so.  ( )  ()


The Mother: I suppose it is the symbol of perfect surrender.  I lay on my back, isn’t it so?   It is the attitude of perfect receptivity in total abandon. It must be the ﬁgurative expression of the attitude of the body.  Because truly, I do not know if there are “bits”, organs that have still what may be called the spirit of independence, but truly the body has made its surrender; that is to say, it no longer has its own will — it has no desire, no will of its own, and it is as though all the while “listening”, all the while, to catch the Indication.


The Mother: It is beginning to know exactly the spot or the function that is not... I cannot say “transformed”, because it is a big word, but that is not in harmony with the rest and creates a disorder. This is becoming a perception of every moment.  Whenever there occurs something which seems abnormal, there is the understanding, the consciousness of why it happened and where it should lead, of how an apparent disorder can lead to a greater perfection. Yes, it is that.


The Mother: It is a very small beginning. But it has begun. It has begun to be a bit conscious. And not only for itself alone, but for others also, it has begun: to see how, to perceive in what way the Consciousness (with a capital C) acts in others; and sometimes indeed (the words follow the experience) there is no longer the perception of division; there is the perception of diversity and this becomes very interesting.... The diversity which, if it were not for what one might call the “hitch” of separation, would, in the true consciousness, be perfectly harmonious and would make a whole that would be perfection itself ().


The Mother: It is the hitch — what has happened?... What has come to pass?...   It remains to be known if for some reason it was necessary or if it is an accident — but how can that be an accident! For the moment (there is no thought, so it is a little vague), for the moment, there is the impression...


The Mother: one might say simply like this: an acquisition of a formidable consciousness, which was acquired, paid for, at the very great price of every suffering and  disorder.... Yesterday or today (I do not remember now), yesterday I think, at a certain moment the problem became very acute, and then it was as though the divine Consciousness told me: “In all this suffering, it is I who am suffering” — the Consciousness, isn’t it? — “it is I who am suffering, but in another manner than that of yours.” I do not know how to say it, it was like this, the impression that the divine Consciousness experienced what for us is suffering; it existed — it existed for the divine Consciousness — but in a different way than for our own consciousness; and then there was an attempt to make one understand the consciousness of all at the same time, simultaneously, everything (one might simply say to express oneself): suffering, the most acute disorder, and Harmony, the most perfect Ananda — the two together, experienced together. Naturally that changes the nature of the suffering.


The Mother: But all this is very conscious and this is something like prattling. This is not the translation of what is.  There is also the perception that gradually, through all these experiences, each aggregate (which is for us a body) is accustoming itself so that it may have the capacity to bear the true Consciousness. That does need a movement of adaptation.   Thoughts and Glimpses


The Mother: Yes. I must say that there are many things in Sri Aurobindo which I am now beginning to understand in a very different way.   ()  The feeling of being on the point of touching something and then... it escapes. Something is missing.


The Mother: Still a long, long, long way to go.   Certainly it acts, it has acted for a long time. It is because the body is accustomed — was accustomed — to obeying the vital and particularly the mind, and therefore this was in order to change its habit, so that it would obey only the higher consciousness. It is for that, so that the thing would go faster. In people it is through the mind and the vital that That acts, but I have said it was also more sure.


The Mother: As an experience this is rather risky. But it increases the tempo considerably, for normally one has to act upon the body through the other two, whereas in this way, when the two are not there, That acts directly. That’s all.  The procedure is not recommended! Each time the occasion arises, I repeat it; people should not imagine that they should try it (they would not be able to do so, but that does not matter), it is not recommended.


The Mother: One must take the necessary time. It was only because of the mounting years... so that it would go quicker.   ( )


The Mother: What is curious is that there are, as it were, demonstrations of the natural tendency of the body (I suppose it is not the same for all bodies: it depends upon how the body has been built, that is to say, father, mother, antecedents, etc.) a demonstration of the body left to itself. For example, this one has a kind of imagination (it is something queer), a dramatic imagination: all the time  it has the feeling that it is living through catastrophes; and then, with the faith it always has, the catastrophe is transformed into a realisation — absurd things like that. So for a time, it is left to this imagination (this is what has happened these days) and when it is completely tired of this stupid activity, it prays, yes, with all its intensity, so that the thing may stop. Immediately, just that, hop! it does this (), it turns around straightaway and goes into a contemplation — not distant, but quite close — of this wonderful Presence that is everywhere.


The Mother: It is like this, like this (), it does not take time, there is no preparation or anything; it is hop! hop! in this way (), as though to show the stupidity of the body. It is something altogether idiotic, like a demonstration through evidence of the stupidity of the body left to itself, and then of this wonderful Consciousness that comes, in which all that vanishes... like something which has no consistency, no reality, and which vanishes. And like a proof that it is not merely in the imagination, but that it is in the: proof of the power so that all this... vain dream of life as it is (which has become for the consciousness of this body something so frightful) can be changed into a wonder, like this, simply by the reversal of the consciousness.  The experience is repeated in all the details, in all the domains, as a demonstration through fact. And it is not a “long process” of transformation, it is as though something is reversed all of a sudden (), and instead of seeing ugliness, falsehood, suffering and all that, suddenly it lives in bliss.


The Mother: And all the things are the same, nothing has moved, except the consciousness.  And so there remains (it is what lies in front, what is probably coming): how is the experience to be translated materially?... For the body itself, it is quite evident: during, say, one hour, or two or three, it suffered much, it was quite miserable (not a moral suffering, an altogether physical suffering), and then all of a sudden, brrff! all gone!... The body apparently has  remained the same () in its appearance, but in place of an inner disorder which makes it suffer, everything is going well and there is a great peace, a great calm, and everything is going well. But this, it is for body — how does it act upon others?


The Mother: It begins to notice the possibility in other consciousnesses. From the moral point of view (that is to say, in respect to attitudes and character and reactions), it is quite visible; even from the physical point of view sometimes: all of a sudden something disappears — as we had the experience when Sri Aurobindo removed a pain ( ): one wondered... “Ah! gone, vanished, like that.” But it is not constant, not general, it is only to show that it can be so, by the fact that it is so in one case or another, to show that it can be like that.  One might say it in this way: the body has the feeling that it is imprisoned within something — yes, imprisoned — imprisoned as though in a box, but it sees through; it sees and it can also  act (in a limited way) through something which is still there and which must disappear.


The Mother: This “something” gives the feeling of an imprisonment. How is it to disappear? That I do not know yet.  One has to ﬁnd the relation between the consciousness in  body and the consciousness of all. And to what extent there is dependence and to what extent there is independence, that is to say, up to what point the body can be transformed in its consciousness (and as a result, necessarily, in its appearance) without... without the transformation of all — up to what point?


The Mother: And to what extent the transformation of all is necessary for the transformation of one body. This remains to be discovered.   ( )


The Mother: If one were to tell everything, it would take hours....    Yes!  Yes, exactly so, exactly so.  Yes, to what extent can an individual light act upon that?


The Mother: ... There is the problem.... I do not know.  ( )


The Mother: The vision is very clear, of the collective progress (our ﬁeld of experience is the earth) that has taken place upon earth; but considering the past, it would seem that a formidable time is still needed for all to be ready to change.... And yet, it is almost a promise that... there is going to be a sudden change (which is translated in our consciousness as a “descent”, an action that “happens”, something that was not acting till now and which has begun to act — in our consciousness, it is translated in that way) .  We shall see.  For the body itself, there is a growing experience, that is to say, a more and more precise experience of its fragility (extreme fragility: just a little movement could stop the present existence), and at the same time, at the same time, simultaneously, the sense of an eternity! — that there is an eternal existence. The two at the same time.


The Mother: It is truly a period of transition!  ( )  Once or twice, when the body’s... what one might call its agony  to know, was very intense, when it had the full sense of the Presence, this sense of the Presence everywhere, inside, everywhere  (), it asked how (not even why, it had no such curiosity), how could there be the present disorder?


The Mother: Well, when it was very intense, very intense, once or twice it had the feeling: once this is found out, it is immortality.  Then it begins thus to push, to push in order to catch the secret, it has the feeling that it is going to be found.... And then there is a kind of lull in the aspiration: “Peace, peace, peace...” Yes, once or twice the impression: “Oh! It is about to be understood” (“understood”, that is to say,; it is not “understood” with the thought: lived) and then... ().


The Mother: And a Peace which comes down.  But the feeling: it will be tomorrow. But tomorrow, which tomorrow? Not tomorrow according to our measure.  We shall see.


The Mother: But the experiences are innumerable, with all the aspects.  It would take hours and still one always has the feeling that the word, well, falsiﬁes something. It is no longer so simple, no longer so beautiful, and no longer so clear. It becomes complicated.  The body has absolutely wonderful moments; it has of agony.


The Mother: And all of a sudden, a wonderful moment. But that moment cannot be explained.... If one is to judge the degree of growth by the proportion of time, well... the wonderful moment lasts a few minutes, and there are hours of agony. There are even hours of suffering.


The Mother: And then if one judged the proportion accordingly, it is still very, very, very, extremely far away....  But what is to be done? One has to go on, that is all.   In the night it came slowly and on waking up this morning, there was as though a golden dawn, and the atmosphere was so light. The body felt: “Well, it is truly, truly new.”


The Mother: A golden light, transparent and... benevolent. “Benevolent” in the sense of a certainty — a harmonious certainty. It was new.  There you are.  And when I say “” to people, it is this which I pass on to them.


The Mother: And this morning, I have passed my time like this, spontaneously, saying: “.” So...   On the ﬁrst, something truly strange happened.... And I was not the only one to feel it, some others also have felt it. It was just after midnight, but I felt it at two o’clock and the others at four o’clock in the morning.


The Mother: It was... last time I spoke to you a few words about it, but what is surprising is that it had absolutely no correspondence at all to anything I was expecting (I was expecting nothing), to other things which I had felt. It was something very material, I mean it was very external — very external — and it was luminous, with a golden light. It was very strong, very powerful; but even so, its character was a smiling benevolence, a peaceful delight and a kind of opening out into delight and light. And it was like a “”, like a greeting.


The Mother: It took me by surprise. It lasted, for at least three hours I felt it. Afterwards I was no longer busy with it, I do not know what happened. But I told you a word or two about it and I spoke of it also to two or three persons: they all had felt it.  That is to say, it was material.


The Mother: They all had felt it, like this, a kind of joy, but a joy friendly, powerful and... oh! very, very gentle, very smiling, I do not know what it is. I do not know what it is, but it is a kind of benevolence,  therefore it was something very close to the human.


The Mother: And it was so concrete, so concrete! as though it had a savour, so concrete it was. Afterwards I did not occupy myself with it any more, except that I spoke to two or three persons about it: all had felt it. Now, I do not know if it is mixed or if... It has not departed; one does not feel as though the thing came in order to go back.  It was much more external than anything I feel usually, much more external....


The Mother: Very little mental, that is to say, there was no feeling of a “promise” or... No, it would be rather... my own impression was that of an immense personality — immense,  that is to say, for it the earth was small, small like this ( ), like a ball — an immense personality, very, very benevolent, which came for... ( ). It gave the impression of a personal divinity (and yet it was... I do not know) who comes to help, and so strong, so strong and at the same time so gentle, so allembracing.  And it was very external: the body felt it everywhere, everywhere (), everywhere.


The Mother: What has become of it? I do not know.  It was the beginning of the year. As if someone having the dimensions of a god (that is to say, someone) came to say “ ”, with all the power to make it a Bonne ann´ee. It was like this.


The Mother: But what was it?...  So concrete...  I do not know.  Is it... is it the personality — because it had no form, I did not see any form, there was only what it had brought ( ), the sensation, the feeling: these two, sensation and feeling — and I asked myself if it was not the supramental personality... who will then manifest himself later in material forms.


The Mother: The body, this body, feels since that moment (the thing has entered into it everywhere, deeply), it feels much more joyous, less concentrated, more lively, in a happy, smiling expansiveness.  For example, it is speaking more easily. There is a note — a constant note of benevolence. A smile, yes, a benevolent smile, and all that with a.... I do not know.


The Mother: You felt nothing?   Ah! It is that. Yes, it is that.


The Mother: Is it the supramental personality?... that will incarnate itself in all those who have a supramental body....  It was luminous, smiling, and so benevolent ; that is to say, generally in the human being benevolence is something a little weak, in this sense that it does not like battle, it does not like ﬁght; but this is nothing of the kind! A benevolence that imposes itself ( ).  It has interested me because it is altogether new.


The Mother: And so concrete! Concrete like this ( ), like what the physical consciousness usually considers as “others”, concrete like that. That is to say, it did not pass through an inner being, through the psychic being, it came upon the body.   What is it?...


The Mother: Yes, perhaps it is this... Since it came, the feeling of the body is a kind of certitude, a certitude as though now it was no longer in anxiety or uncertainty to know: “What will it be? What will the Supramental be like?, what will it be physically?” The body used to ask itself. Now it does not think of it any more, it is contented.


The Mother: Yes, I believe so, yes. I have the feeling that it is the formation which is going to enter, going to express itself — to enter and express itself — in the bodies... that will be the bodies of the supramental.  Or perhaps... perhaps the superman, I do not know.  The intermediary between the two. Perhaps the superman: it was very human, but a human in divine proportions, I must say.


The Mother: A human without weaknesses and without shadows: it was all light — all light and smiling and... sweetness at the same time.  Yes, perhaps the superman.   ()  we () Yes, probably.


The Mother: Yes, surely. It is always like that.  That is why I say — I say that after all we are here, every one of us, and we have ﬁnally to face all the difﬁculties, but it is a Grace, for we, shall know how — and we shall not cease to be, is it not so? We shall know how the thing was done.   Did I tell you that I have identiﬁed this consciousness?


The Mother: Yes, but I had said “the supramental consciousness”.  Yes, it is that. It is the descent of the superman consciousness. I had the assurance later on.  It was the ﬁrst of January after midnight.


The Mother: I woke up at two in the morning, surrounded by a consciousness, so concrete, and in the sense that I had never felt it before. And it lasted, absolutely concrete, present, for two or three hours, and  afterwards it spread out and went about to ﬁnd people who could receive it. And I knew that it was the consciousness of the superman, that is to say, the intermediary between man and the supramental being.  That has given to the body a kind of assurance and conﬁdence.


The Mother: That experience has, as it were, stabilised the body and if it keeps the true attitude, every support is there to help it.   The other day when X came, as soon as he entered (he was standing there), this atmosphere came, from here up to there ( ), surrounded me like a wall. It was thick, it was luminous, and then, it was forceful! To me it was visible, it was very material, as though a rampart, nearly of this thickness ( ), and it remained there all the time he was there.  So, it is very consciously active.


The Mother: It is as though a projection of power. And it has now become a habitual thing.  There is within it a consciousness — a precious thing — which gives lessons to the body, teaching it what it must do, that is to say, the attitude it must have, the reaction it must have.... I have already told you many a time that it is very difﬁcult to ﬁnd the process of transformation when there is no one to give you any indications; well, it was as though the reply; it came to tell the body: “Take this attitude, do this in this way, do that in that way”, and so the body is satisﬁed, it is completely reassured, it can no longer be mistaken.  It is very interesting.


The Mother: It came as a “mentor”, it was, quite practical: “This thing must be rejected, that must be accepted; this must be made general, that...”; all the inner movements. And it even becomes very material in the sense that it says with regard to some vibrations: “This you must encourage”, to others: “That must be canalised”, to others again: “This must be removed.”  Little indications like that.  ( )


The Mother: In one of the old talks I had said (when I was speaking there in  the Playground), I had said: Surely the superman will be at ﬁrst a being of power, so that he may defend himself.” It is that, it is that experience, it came back as an experience; and it is because it came back as an experience that I remembered that I had said it.  Yes, ﬁrst Power.  Yes, exactly so. Well, I have ﬁrst had the experience for this body: it came like a rampart, and it was mighty!


The Mother: It was a mighty power! Altogether out of proportion to the apparent action.  It is very interesting.  And also this is why, now that I see the experience, I see that the result is much more precise, concrete, because the mind and the vital are not there. Because that takes their place — and with all this quiet assurance of knowing, which comes at the same time.


The Mother: It is interesting.  () You have something to say?    In the same way. Only, those who are not accustomed to observing themselves objectively will notice it less, that is all.


The Mother: It will pass as though through cotton, as it always does so. But otherwise it is the same.  I do hope that it will make one think correctly.   Yes, it is a guide.


The Mother: Well, it is a consciousness.  For me, Consciousness limits itself to special activities, for special cases, but it is always Consciousness; just as in the human consciousness it limits itself almost to nothing, so also in certain states of being, in certain activities, it limits itself to a certain way of being in order to fulﬁl Its action: and I have very much asked It: “If I could be guided at every minute”, because that gains time enormously, does it not? — instead of having to study, to observe, to... Well, now I ﬁnd that it has happened like that.  (


The Mother: )  There is a very marked change in those who have been touched on the ﬁrst of January: it is particularly... indeed a precision and a certitude that has entered into their way of thinking.  It was there (). It is curious, as though I was given the charge of putting it into contact with all those who come near me.   This atmosphere, this consciousness is very active, and active as a mentor, I have already said.


The Mother: And that continues. And then, for several hours in the early morning of one of these last days, it was... Never, never had the body been so happy; there was the complete Presence, absolute freedom, and a certitude: that had no importance — these cells, other cells ( ), it was life everywhere, consciousness everywhere. Absolutely wonderful.  It came without effort, it went away simply because...


The Mother: I was too busy. And that does not come at will — what comes at will is what may be called a “copy”: it has the appearance, but it is not the Thing. The Thing... there is something which is altogether independent of our aspiration, our will, our effort ... altogether. And this something seems absolutely all-powerful, in the sense that none of the difﬁculties of the body exist.


The Mother: Everything disappears at this time. But aspiration, concentration, effort... all that is to no purpose. It is the, yes, it is to have the divine sense. During these few hours (three or four), I understood absolutely what it was to have the divine consciousness in the body.


The Mother: And then this body here, that body there, that body there ( ), it did not matter; it went about from one body to another, altogether free and independent, knowing the limitations and possibilities of each body — absolutely wonderful, I have never, never before had this experience. Absolutely wonderful. It went away because I was so busy that... And it did not go away because it came simply to show how it was — it is not that; it is because life and the organisation of life swallows you up.   I know it is there ().


The Mother: I know it, but... but that, I understand, is a transformation. And clearly the persons, not a vague thing: clearly, that could express itself in this person, express itself in that person, express itself ( ), clearly, wholly. With a Smile!...  And then the cells themselves told of their effort to be transformed, and there was a Calm there....


The Mother: How to explain this?  The body told of its aspiration and of its will to prepare itself; and it did not ask, but made the effort to be what it ought to be: all that always with this question (the body does not put the question, it is... the environment, the surrounding — the world, as if the world put the question): “Will it continue or will it have to get dissolved?”... Itself, it is like this ( ); it says, “What Thou willest, Lord.” But then, the body knows that it has been decided and it is not to be told to it. It accepts, it is not impatient, it accepts, it says, “It is all right, it shall be what Thou willest.”


The Mother: But That which knows and That which does not respond is... something that cannot be expressed. It is... yes, I believe the only word that describes the sensation one has, is: it is an Absolute — an Absolute. Absolute.


The Mother: It is that, the sensation: of being in the presence of the Absolute. The Absolute: absolute Knowledge, absolute Will, absolute Power.... Nothing, nothing can resist it. And then, it is an Absolute which is (one has this kind of sensation, concrete) of compassion! But by the side of that, all that we consider as kindness, compassion...


The Mother: pooh! it is nothing at all. That is Compassion with power absolute, and... it is not Wisdom, it is not Knowledge, it is... It has nothing to do with our procedure.


The Mother: And it is That, everywhere. That is everywhere.  And it is the experience of the body; and to That, the body gives itself entirely, totally, asking for nothing, nothing at all. Only one aspiration (): to be able to That, what That wants — to serve That; not even so: to That.  But that state, which lasted for several hours, nothing similar to that happiness has this body ever felt during the ninety-one  years it has been here upon earth: freedom, absolute power and no limits (), no limits, no impossibilities, nothing.


The Mother: It was... all other bodies were itself.  There was no difference, it was only a play of consciousness () going about.  That is all.  ()


The Mother: Apart from that, however, the work is becoming more and more exacting. But I feel (that is to say, the body feels very well) that it is part of the training.  It looks like that: it must hold on, the body, or otherwise so much the worse, it will be for another time.   All the human excuses appear as childishness.


The Mother: It is something very strange, all the qualities and all the defects of man appear as childishness — foolishness. It is curious.  And it is not a thought, it is a concrete sensation. It is like a substance without life; all ordinary things are like a substance lacking life — the life. Artiﬁcial and false.


The Mother: It is strange.  It is not so much in others, it is not that: it is the inner training. And this true Consciousness, this true Attitude is something so for-mi-da-bly strong, powerful, in a so smiling! So smiling that it cannot be annoyed, it is absolutely impossible ... so smiling, so smiling... and watching.  (


The Mother: )  The special character of this new consciousness is: no half measures, no approximations. That is its character. The idea “Oh yes, we shall do it, and little by little we...” — no, no, not like that; it is Yes or No, either you can or you cannot. ()  Truly it is a, you see, as if: not to lose time — not to lose time. It must be done or...


The Mother: But this tremendous Power, it is that above all; and it is with a compassion! a gentleness!... No, there are no words, we have no words to describe that, something... Nothing but just to be attentive and... it is blissfulness. Nothing but just to turn one’s attention towards that side, immediately there is the bliss.


The Mother: And I understand (that has made me understand certain things), we have heard of people who in the midst of torture enjoyed bliss — it is like that. A beatitude.  There you are, it is that ( ).   I remember I wrote this after having had the experience that the immobility of the Inconscient, the beginning of creation, is, one cannot say a “projection”, but a kind of inanimate or inconscient symbol of the Eternity, of the Immobility — it is not “immobility”, words are worth nothing, it is between immobility and stability. I have written here “peace”, but “peace” is a poor word, it is not that, it is inﬁnitely more than peace, it is the “something” (even the word “eternal” gives a limited sense, all words are impossible), the “Something” which is the Origin of all things and the beginning of the evolution of the manifestation to rejoin the Origin ().


The Mother: I have the impression that it was at the Playground, and it was as though the inconscient immobility — the immobility of the Inconscient, the inert immobility of the Inconscient — were the starting-point of the evolution and it was like the of this... how to say it? (this is also another kind of immobility!  but an immobility containing all movements) of this immobility of the Origin, this stability, and that the whole evolution is so that this may ﬁnd back That, with the whole passage ( ). It was a very clear vision. I remember having written this, and when I read it the experience came back.


The Mother: Well, we speak always of a “fall” — but it is not that! It is not at all that. If there is a fall, it is at the moment when the vital turned into a will for independence: it is not at the beginning, it occurs altogether on the way.... In the ancient tradition, they  say it is the “Conscient” that became the Inconscient because it was “cut off from the Origin” — this gives me the impression of stories told to children.  It is curious, in the silence and in the vision, it is very clear and very luminous, understandable; but as soon as you want to tell it, it becomes foolish.


The Mother: But then, in the creation even as it is now, it is true that the word “peace” is perhaps the nearest (although it is not that, it is quite small and restricted, it is not that). As soon as something goes wrong or out of order, it is that which comes as the remedy, within.  ()   Oh!


The Mother: Words are worth nothing, I do not know what to do, I do not know if it is because I have not enough of them or because truly... all mental expression seems artiﬁcial. It gives the feeling of a lifeless ﬁlm. It is curious. And all language belongs to that domain. When I want to relate this experience... with some people I enter into a relation very, very well, very easily, in silence, and I tell them inﬁnitely more things than I would be able to with words; it is more supple, more exact, more profound....


The Mother: Well!  Words, phrases, things written leave me with the impression of a two-dimensional picture, the ordinary picture; and that, that contact which I have in a way with people when I do not talk, that adds the depth and something more true (it is not, it is far from being altogether true, but it is more true) and there is a depth.  ( )  That is why the experiences are difﬁcult to recount.


The Mother: They are no longer separate experiences which come one after another; it is like a single and global movement () of transformation, and it has a great intensity.   In the ordinary functioning of life, there is this feeling that “it goes well”, which is translated in people as a feeling of good health, and then there is a lack of balance, lack of order; and this opposition now seems artiﬁcial : it is only a continuous movement which changes over from one kind of vibration to another kind whose origin is much more (how to say it? it is not “deeper”, it is not “higher”, and “truer” gives only one side, it is not that), well, “superior” in some way — words are foolish, altogether foolish.  It is like this, it is all the time like this.


The Mother: And then one is drawn to one spot or to another; it is simply a play of our consciousness, but for the consciousness that sees the whole, it is a continuous movement, and a global one towards... yes, it is this, it is in order that this inert Inconscient becomes the absolute Conscient.... I do not know, I have a vague impression that it has been discovered (here, absolutely on the earth, upon the earth), it has been discovered that a certain intensity of movement (that is to say, what we call “rapidity”) is translated by an impression of immobility. I have a vague impression that I have been told so.  But this corresponds to something.


The Mother: What I have called “peace” in the message, what is felt as peace, is an acme of movement, but general — harmonious and general.  As soon as one speaks, it looks like a caricature.   ( )


The Mother: I shall end by falling silent!  ( ) But it is so poor, all this.


The Mother: Ah! That would be pretty....    It goes to such an extent that when I am told something, when, for example, something which I have said is repeated to me, I no longer understand it... I try my best, but it is the whole intensity of the Consciousness that seeks to express itself, so when it is repeated, this intensity is not there any more and it has no sense any longer.


The Mother: But precisely this message, when it was read out to me, brought back the experience; therefore I know how it was, and then the word “peace” contained so much!... Now it is no longer there.  What is the word that I used?  Immutable?


The Mother: Yes, and then the experience was that this same immutable peace (which was neither “peace” nor “immutable”! but it was “something”), this very Thing was there within the inconscient inertia.  And it was so concrete!... And the whole curve of creation was there so that this and That might be apparently one (but it one — it is one). One might say (but it turns into phrases, these are words): to become conscious of one’s identity. But it is a phrase.


The Mother: ( )  The experience is so intensely concrete that as soon as I begin to speak, it comes down. Up there (), the consciousness is clear, and then...   These notions about individuality... they are very much changed for me, very much.


The Mother: Even the whole of this morning... But for a long time, for at least a month, it has been different.  When people speak of individuality, there is always as though... at least in the background, some separation, that is to say, something existing independently and having its own destiny. But now, as the consciousness in this body knows it, it is almost like a pulsation of “something” which has a separate action, but is at bottom, in essence always one; as something which is projected like this () for the moment with a form, and then which can ( ), can at will annul this form. It is very difﬁcult to explain, but in any case the feeling of the permanence of the separation has disappeared altogether.


The Mother: The universe is an exteriorisation () of the Supreme Consciousness; it is our incapacity for a total vision which gives us the sense of ﬁxity; it is not there, it is something like pulsations or... in fact, it is a play of forms — there is only Being. There is only one Being, only one, only one Consciousness, only one Being. The separation, it is truly... I do not know what has happened.


The Mother: And it is this that has done all the mischief — all the unhappiness, all the misery.... This body has just passed, for some days, through a series of experiences (too long to narrate), through all the states of consciousness that one can pass through, starting from the sense of the sole reality of that ( ), of the substance, with all the miseries, all the suffering resulting from the belief that Matter is the sole reality; from that up to the liberation. It has been, hour after hour, a labour.   But even before this, the consciousness of the cells had realised the unity, the essential unity, which become total if this sort of illusion disappeared. Indeed, the illusion that created this misery was lived so intensely that it became almost unbearable, with all the horrors and frightfulnesses created by it in the human consciousness and upon earth....


The Mother: There had been things... frightful. And just after — just after — the liberation.  What still remains to be lived, that is to say, the experience still to be realised is... the next forward move of creation, of Matter — the next step to return to the true Consciousness.  That, it is...  It seems decided that something like a beginning, or a trial experience, is about to be gone through ( ).


The Mother: It is a question of the intensity of faith and of the power to bear which this faith gives. All depends on the capacity of passing through the necessary experiences.  In any case, all the old notions, the old ways of understanding things, all that is gone, gone for good, has passed away.  And all that necessarily is the way of return; one had to go through that, one has still to go through that — but not the same thing, but always moving forward until one can... until that is capable of living the Truth. I do not know, the feeling is that it is moving as fast as it is possible to go; truly the Consciousness is at work making us move as fast as it is possible.


The Mother: It is no longer the hour of a lingering somnolence.  ()   That, it is the Supreme.  It is the Supreme conscious of Himself... ... partially.  The Supreme conscious of Himself partially.


The Mother: Yes, that is the process.   It is the process which has been used for the evolution.  That is understood.


The Mother: That is the process, that has been the process of the creation.  Because it was the process of the creation, men confused it with...   Separation, ego.  But that, it is evident.


The Mother: That remains, that cannot disappear.   ( )  What is going to happen, I do not know.


The Mother: The body is not concerned at all with itself; it is like this (), it is all the time: “What Thou willest, Lord, what Thou willest”... and with a smile and a perfect joy — like this, like this, like this ( ). Very strangely, it has been given a consciousness having nothing to do with time; you understand, there is no more “when it was not”, no more “when it will not be”, no more... it is not like that, it is wholly something moving. But truly this is very interesting. And all, all these reactions, sensations, feelings, all this has changed altogether, changed even in appearance.


The Mother: It is a different thing.  Well, the states in which one could be when one is in the highest consciousness, those that united, those that were automatically one with the Supreme Consciousness, that possessed the consciousness of all — that state has become the natural state of the body. Effortless, spontaneous: it cannot be otherwise. So what is going to happen, how is that going to be translated? I do not know.


The Mother: It is contrary to all habits.  Does this consciousness know what has to be done materially?... I do not know. But the body does not concern itself with it; it goes on doing from second to second what it has got to do, without putting questions. No complications, no planning, nothing, nothing.


The Mother: There you are.  We shall see; it is interesting.   It is difﬁcult... in English one would say: it’s not a joke.... Everything, everything is getting disorganised, everything is getting disorganised.


The Mother: One sees very well, however, that the disorganisation is moving a higher organisation, that is to say, a widening, a liberation — that is true.... But nothing, nothing is going the ordinary way.  ()  The body has reached a state of consciousness in which it knows that death may make a change, but not — it is not a disappearance (not a disappearance of the consciousness). And then, this idea that the vast majority of people have: the repose of death ( ).


The Mother: Not even this consolation. For the majority of people it is the contrary of repose. And so there also, but in a way still more acute and intense: “The only, only, hope is... Lord, Thou. To be Thou, may there be nothing but Thee, and may this separation, this difference disappear;


The Mother: it is monstrous! May it disappear, so that it be as Thou willest:  Thyself in full activity, or Thyself in complete repose, it has no importance of any kind; either this way or that, it has no importance at all, no importance at all. What is important is to be Thou.”  This is the absolute () that there is only door of exit from all that, only — only one, there are no two; there is no choice, not several possibilities but only one: it is... the supreme Door, the Marvel of Marvels.


The Mother: All the rest... all the rest, it is not possible.  And all that, it is the experience of this ( ); it is not mental, it is altogether, altogether material.   I am seeing, for the consciousness of people is open to me (there is no difference, it is altogether open), so I am seeing: in the vast majority, the vast majority, the idea, when things become truly painful: “Oh!” — there is always this sort of idea — “Oh, one day, it will all end.” What nonsense!  (


The Mother: )  But why? Why?... From time to time the body becomes anxious: Why? Why, why all this, why?


The Mother: When it sees, when it is in contact with suffering, with people, with miseries and difﬁculties, why, why? Why... why?  Since this creation can become a wonder, one with the supreme Consciousness, why, why then was there the need of all that ( )?  From time to time, this happens to it.  In fact, evidently it is meaningless, for it serves no purpose — it is like that, it is like that.


The Mother: All the “why’s” will not prevent it from being like that. All that one has to do is to ﬁnd out the means that it may no longer be so, that’s all.  ( ) I think always of Buddha and of all of them: they go to get dissolved in the Lord and then there will be nothing! ( )


The Mother: And then, in order to make their theory appear something like truth, they say () that it is an “error”; they do not see the absurdity of their theory, as if the Supreme Lord could commit an error... and had only to repent and withdraw!  These people, all these people, the more they are convinced, the more one has the feeling that they have closed themselves off with blinkers.   ()  It looks like that.  Yes, but that does not console me.


The Mother: It looks like that. Extraordinary things are happening all the time. All the time, all the time, at every minute I hear of things really extraordinary.  But that does not console it... it has no.


The Mother: Ah! Yes.  It does not worry even about its puriﬁcation... I do not know how to explain....


The Mother: It is day and night, without break: “What Thou willest, O Lord, what Thou willest”... Yes, “willest”, not “wantest”, because it is not merely like this ( ), it is also like this ().  “What Thou willest, what Thou wantest”, that’s all. Such is its perpetual status.  (


The Mother: )  In any case (this, it is quite clear), the Consciousness which is at work to help it in its labour, has made it per-fect-ly understand  that to go away is not a solution. Even if before, it had a curiosity to know what it will be, this curiosity has gone; then the desire to stay on, that also has gone away long ago. The possible desire to go away, when that becomes a little... suffocating, that also has gone with the idea that it will change nothing at all. So, there is left only one thing for it, to perfect the acceptance.


The Mother: That’s all.   There is only one solution, it is the direct contact of the physical with the Supreme. That is the only thing.   There you are.


The Mother: But the cells of the body... (I do not know if it is particular to this body, I cannot believe that this body is so exceptional), but they are convinced, and they try, they try, they try all the while, all the while, all the while, with every misery, with every difﬁculty, with every... there is only one solution — only one thing: “Thou, Thou alone, to Thee alone — Thou alone existest.” It is this which is translated in the consciousness of people like the Buddhists and others, as world-illusion, but it is only a half-translation.  But the true solution is this: “Thou alone existest, Thou alone.” All the rest...


The Mother: all the rest is misery: misery, suffering... obscurity.  Perhaps — perhaps it is... Evidently in the conception of Sri Aurobindo, the Supramental escapes from all this misery.  There is only That. Otherwise, it is difﬁcult.


The Mother: Perhaps the half-measures now no longer sufﬁce... I do not know. Perhaps it is time to take one’s stand deﬁnitely.  As for this body, it has taken its stand. But I felt...


The Mother: one must be very, very enduring — very enduring — so I did not urge others to do it, but all that amounts to saying that perhaps it . I do not know.    The night before last, I spent more than three hours with Sri Aurobindo and I was showing him all that was about to come down for Auroville. It was quite interesting.


The Mother: There were games, there was art, there was even cooking! But all that was very symbolic. And I was explaining to him as though on a table, in front of a vast landscape. I was explaining to him the principle on which physical exercises and games were going to be organised.  It was very clear, very precise, I was giving as though a demonstration, and it was as though I was showing on a very small scale a miniature representation of what was going to be done.


The Mother: I was moving people and things ().  But it was very interesting, and he was very much interested: he was laying down the broad laws of organisation (I do not know how to explain). There was art and it was beautiful, it was good.  And how to make the houses pleasant and pretty, upon what principle of construction. And then even the kitchen; it was so amusing, each one brought forward his invention....


The Mother: This went on for three hours — three hours of the night, it is a lot! Very interesting.  ( ) No...


The Mother: it was right there, it did not seem to be “foreign” to earth. It was a harmony: a conscious harmony behind things; a conscious harmony behind the physical exercises and the games; a conscious harmony behind the decoration, the art; a conscious harmony behind the food...   Not...   I saw X today and I was telling him that the whole organisation of the arts and sports, even of food and all the rest, was ready in the subtle physical — ready to come down and embody itself — and I told him, “What is needed is just a handful of earth (), a handful of earth where one could grow the plant....


The Mother: One must ﬁnd a handful of earth to let it grow.”  ( )  Yes, yes. But the two are there. It is true.


The Mother: The it is a confusion, a dark confusion, yes. A dark confusion, but it is what Sri Aurobindo was always saying: the confusion becomes all the more intense and dark at the time the light is about to dawn. It is so. It appears as a dark chaos. And the Chinese...


The Mother: What does the man say?  (Mother remains silent.)    The Wretched   Oh!


The Mother: An apology for violence...  That is the vital in its fullness.   Oh! That explains all the visions I have had.


The Mother: I believed... I was blaming my body, I was saying: this poor body, it has an unfortunate atavism: always horrible, horrible imaginations — and they were not imaginations, it was conscious of what was happening... oh!...  It is very interesting, what you have just told me, because yesterday (these days, these three days), in front of the horror of the perception of things, this body (which is the very opposite of being sentimental; it has never, never been sentimental), this body wept.... It was not weeping physically, naturally, but it was... And it said, with an inner intensity, “Oh!


The Mother: Why does this world exist?” In that way, so it was... it was horrid, sad, miserable... so it was miserable and... so horrible, oh!... But immediately it got the Answer — it was not an answer in words,  it was simply... as though a vastness opening into the Light.


The Mother: Then, there is nothing to say any more.  But how can That, that vastness, become this?... I do not know. The question: “How did That become this?” It is in that way that it came to me: “How could That, that Marvel, have become this, this hideous, monstrous thing?”


The Mother: But the procedure for changing this back again into That, I do not know.... The procedure is... abdication (how to say it?), self-giving (it is not that). But everything, everything appeared to it so gruesome. There was a whole day very, very, very difﬁcult.  And strangely enough, I knew at that moment that it was the exact repetition of the experience that Siddhartha Buddha had had and that it was while he was this experience that he had said: “There is only one way out: Nirvana.”


The Mother: And at the  I was in the state of true consciousness: his solution and the true one. It was really interesting. How the Buddhist solution is only step taken — one step. And it is that (not in another way, but that) that the true solution lies. It was a decisive experience.


The Mother: ( )  But what, after all, is this creation?... Well, separation, and then wickedness, cruelty — the thirst for doing harm, one might say — then suffering, just the joy of inﬂicting suffering, and then all the illness and decomposition and death — the destruction.


The Mother: All that, forming part of the same thing. What has happened?... And the experience that I had was of the of these things, as though you had entered into an unreal falsehood, and all disappears as you come out of it — it, it is not.  This is what is frightful! What is for us so real, so concrete, so terrifying, all that does not exist.


The Mother: It is... you have entered into Falsehood. Why? How? What?...


The Mother: But never, never in the whole life-long existence of this body, not for once even, had it felt... such a total, such a deep pain  as on that day... oh!... something which... ( ). And then at the end of that, the Bliss. And then, pfft! It is wiped away, as though: “not yet, not yet, it is not yet the time.”  As though all that, all that which is so frightful did not exist.


The Mother: In the end, probably — probably — it is only the earth (that I do not know). It does not seem to be so, for the moon is very concretely a desolation. In short, there is still a feeling very strong and very exact that it is something limited that is like that, in this Falsehood. And And we are all in the Falsehood and Unreality; that is why it is like that. And what was interesting was that this escape into Nirvana was not the solution, was only a remedy, a remedy for a time (how to explain?


The Mother: I do not know),  partial. A partial cure, and, one might almost say, momentary.  And then that, for a moment it is a paroxysm. Afterwards comes the long way: one must carry on, carry on the work of transformation.


The Mother: And then, the next minute, it is what Sri Aurobindo has called the supramental being. It is as though the passage from the one to the other.  But how will all this change? I do not know.


The Mother: Yes, yes.  Yes, it is that.   for the whole world...  () I cannot say, it is inexpressible; it was something that contained horror, fright, pain — and a compassion, oh! so  intense.... Never, never had this body felt like that.


The Mother: And besides, it put the body in a condition quite... quite critical for some hours. And afterwards it was as though everything — each and every thing — came with a Smile and a shining Light, as though (translated in a child’s image) as though the Lord was saying, “You see, I am everywhere. You see, I am in everything.” And it was incredible — incredible.... But there is no communication between the two.


The Mother: Well, it was at the time when the body was saying: “How is it? Is it going to be necessary to con-ti-nue that? Must one, must one con-ti-nue that? The world, people, the whole creation — to continue that?”... That appeared...


The Mother: I understood all at once: Ah! It is this which they have translated as “eternal hell”. It is this. It is someone who has had this perception.  And all the means — which could be called artiﬁcial, including Nirvana — all the means of coming out of that are worth nothing.


The Mother: Beginning with the idiot who kills himself to “put an end” to his life (this of course is, of all the idiocies, the most idiotic; it makes one’s case still worse), starting from there right up to Nirvana (where one imagines one is able to escape), all that, all that is worth They are all at different levels, but all are worth And then, after that, at the time when you really have the feeling of an everlasting hell, all of a sudden... (nothing but a state of consciousness, it is nothing else but that), all of a sudden a state of consciousness... in which all is light, splendour, beauty, happiness, goodness... and everything inexpressible. And it is like that: “There, there you are”, and then, pfft! it appears and then, hop! off it goes. And then the Consciousness which sees, which asserts itself and says, “Now, next step, the next step.” So, it is that, it is in the presence of all that that the body had...


The Mother: never, never in all its life had it felt such pain, and even now...  Is that, is that the lever?... I do not know. But the salvation is not at all mental, but. I mean to say that it is not escape, it is This I felt very strongly.


The Mother: But the body had a few very difﬁcult hours. And always, for it, it is all the same; it says, “Well and good”; it is quite ready for the dissolution or... There was no question of that. The question was not that; the question was, to know how to receive the Cure.... And how is it?


The Mother: — with our means, it is inexpressible.  But it is not that it is veiled or hidden or whatever: it is   Why? What is it in the whole that takes away from you the power to live it? I do not know.


The Mother: It is there. It is And all the rest, including death and all, becomes truly a falsehood, that is to say, something that does not exist.  If it were only that, it would be nothing.  Yes, it is that.


The Mother: Yes, it is that! But is it only the earth? I do not know. They are going high up there to see!  All that I know, the feeling I have, is that it is concentrated here.


The Mother: Here is the concentration, here is the work. Maybe it is also... the whole solar system, I do not know.  ( )  But one cannot get out of it all alone.


The Mother: Yes, I believe so.    This, this consciousness in which the body is now, that all this is unreal.  The body, if it were asked, would say, “I do not know if I am alive, I do not know if I am dead.” Because it is truly like that.


The Mother: During some minutes it has altogether the feeling that it is dead; at other moments it has the feeling that it is alive. It is like that. And it feels that that depends exclusively upon... whether one sees the Truth or not.  ()  Upon what does that depend?...


The Mother: ()  According to what others say or write or experience, I have seen that what the vast majority of mankind fears most is this perception: that it is a Falsehood and all that leads towards it. I know people (they have written to me) who had terrible frights quite lately because all of a sudden they were seized by force; there was something that began to touch them: the perception of the unreality of life. So that shows the vastness of the way to be trod. It means that all hope of a near solution seems to be a childishness.


The Mother: Unless... things take another turn.  If it is to follow the movement it has been following till now ... there have been centuries and centuries and centuries.... Then the superman would still be only a stage and afterwards there would be many other things...  () That would be very convenient indeed!  Yes, well certainly!


The Mother: It would be so convenient. Will it be like that?...  That, surely I am in full agreement! And I would be very glad if it were anyone, it does not matter who; I have not the least desire that it should be myself!  Yes, how it is!


The Mother: (.)   I looked into the matter a great deal after you left me last time, the whole day.... There is some sense that that would be a wonderful solution. When you said it, something became concrete all of a sudden. But there was no personal sense within...


The Mother: the body has none at all, at all, no ambition or desire whatsoever or even aspiration to become that, but there was only a kind of delight in the possibility of “that” being done; if it were done, it matters not who or where or how: only let that be done. And I looked at it with very, very close attention; not for a moment was there the idea: “It must be this” ( ), you understand? It was: “Let there this incarnation, this manifestation” — not to choose one person or another, one place or another, no, nothing of that kind existed: it was the thing in itself which was like a wonderful solution.  And so, that’s all.  And then the consciousness began to observe:


The Mother: if there is nothing in this body which “aspired” to be that, it proves that this is not its work. Then there came that extraordinary Smile (I do not know how to express it), it was there, it passed and said... (one could translate it in quite a childlike manner): “It is not your business!” And that’s all. And then it was ﬁnished, I was not busy with it any more. “Not your business” in the sense: this does not concern you; whether it is this or that or that, it is not your business.


The Mother: That is all.  But what has become its business — in such an intense way that it cannot be expressed — is: “Thou, Thou, Thou, Thou.”  No word can translate it: the Divine, to use one word. It is everything. For everything — to eat: the Divine; to sleep: the Divine; to suffer: the Divine...


The Mother: Like that ( ). With a kind of stability, of immobility.    Oh no! Oh no!


The Mother: Yes, that is the means, nothing can be better.   That is what I am doing all the time.  If one could only do that!... From all sides it comes like that ().


The Mother: ()  Finally, I am fully convinced that the confusion is there to teach us how to live from day to day, that is to say, not to be preoccupied with what may happen, what will happen, just to occupy oneself day by day with doing what one has to do. All thinkings, pre-plannings, arrangements and all that, are very favourable to much disorder.  To live almost minute by minute, to be like that ( ), attentive only to the thing that is to be done at the moment, and then to let the All-Consciousness decide.... We can never know things even with the widest vision: we can know things only partially — very partially.


The Mother: So our attention is drawn this way and that, and still other things are there. By giving great importance to things dangerous and harmful, you only add strength to them.   ( )  When you are assailed by the vision of such disorder and confusion, you have to do only one thing, to enter into the consciousness where you see only Being, Consciousness,  Power — there is only a single Unity — and all this is taking place within this Unity.


The Mother: And all our insigniﬁcant visions and knowings and judgments and... all that is mere nothing, it is microscopic in comparison with the Consciousness presiding over All. Therefore, if one had the least sense of the reason why separate individualities existed, one would see that it was only for allowing aspiration, the existence of aspiration, of this movement of self-giving and surrender, trust and And it is this that is the very reason why individuals were built up; and then, for you to become that in all sincerity and intensity... it is all that is needed.   It is all that is needed, it is the thing, the only thing that stays; all the rest... phantasmagoria.


The Mother: And it is the only thing valid in every case: when you want to do a thing, when you cannot do a thing, when you move, when the body is no more able to move... in, every case, that only, only that: to come in conscious contact with the Supreme Consciousness, to be united with it; and... to wait.   There!  It is then that you receive the exact indication of what you ought to do at each minute — to do or not to do, to act or to be stone still. That is all.


The Mother: And even to be or not to be.   That is the only solution. More and more, more and more, the certitude is there: this is the solution. All the rest is mere childishness.


The Mother: And all activities, all possibilities can be made use of in a natural way — it eliminates all arbitrary personal choice. All possibilities are there, all, all, all are there. All perceptions are there and all knowledge — only the personal arbitrariness has been eliminated. And this personal arbitrariness is childish,  so childish... a stupidity, a stupidity full of ignorance.


The Mother: And I feel, I feel like that () this agitation, oh! this whirl in the atmosphere!  Poor humanity.   (


The Mother: )  All that is for teaching the world to turn back to the Lord in its consciousness.... Why? It is for this that there has been a creation?  ()


The Mother: Ah! You never had an answer?   Well!  But don’t you have the sense of a...


The Mother: I do not know how to explain, because it is not ease nor... I do not know how to explain, it is something which... no words can tell it, but it leaves you absolutely satisﬁed.   Ah!


The Mother: Ah! So it’s all right, it is that. Everything, everything else is useless.  But it lies underneath that state.  It is underneath.


The Mother: That state... I know, by experience, that it is the state in which One becomes a sort of instrument — that is even unconscious of being an instrument — but which serves ( ) to project the forces ( ). The brain is altogether, altogether too small, is it not? Even when it is very big, it is too small to be capable of understanding; that is why there is this blank in the mind and the thing happens.


The Mother: And then you perceive that with regard to the needs of the little life you represent, it automatically comes to pass and you automatically do at every minute just what you have to do without... without calculating, without speculating, without deciding, nothing; it is like this ( ).  I had the personal experience then, that if something is upset in the body (a pain, a discomfort or something that does not function properly), when you have gone through that state, it  leaves you — it goes away, disappears. Acute pains even disappeared completely, one does not know how! Ah! Gone — like that.


The Mother: And then, in the contact with people and in the contact with the things of life, a childlike simplicity. That is to say, one does things without... particularly without speculating.  Well, it is like that. I try to be always in the state which you are describing, like that,; and always — always, without exception — if there is anything to be done, I am made to do it.  I cannot say anything else.


The Mother: It is so.  I noticed that I am made to act differently at different moments with different people, and even the experience is very different — all that, the same thing, the same way, like that ().  Only, one must arrive at a state where there is naturally no more preference nor desire nor repulsion nor attraction, nothing — all that is gone.  And above all, above all, no fear — particularly. That is the most essential of all things.


The Mother: One must have the power to keep it!  My child... it is here constantly, constantly, whatever the body may be doing — whether seeing people or being busy with itself or sleeping — it is always, always there, conscious, vibrant. I say, “It is possible”; it is a fact. Only, what is needed...


The Mother: what prevents it generally is that the physical consciousness in most men is very obscure; it is made only of the most material needs, desires, reactions. But what is needed is to awaken in the cells the love for the Divine; it is always so, all the time, and it does not change, does not change any more. It is even  constant than any mental or vital movement; it is like this (), it does not move. The cells are all the while like this, in a state of love for the Divine. What is most remarkable in the physical is that once it has learnt a thing it never forgets it.


The Mother: The cells, once they have learnt it, this selfgiving, this offering to the Divine, this of self-offering, have learnt it for good; it does not ﬂicker any more. It is constant, twenty-four hours out of twenty-four, without stop and day after day, and there is no change. Even if there be something that is not all right (either a pain or something else), the ﬁrst movement, yes, it is that, it is to offer itself, give itself — spontaneously. The higher consciousness does not intervene. It is spontaneous, it is  the consciousness contained in the cells.


The Mother: It is the vital and the mental that are unstable in that way ().  Particularly, particularly it is the vital that is interested in all sorts of things. Naturally, the two are interdependent.  The ego must be abolished, the of the ego must be abolished. But generally people believe that it is not possible to abolish the physical ego; not only is it possible, it has been


The Mother: And the body continues, continues to walk about, it is not gone  (there was a little difﬁcult moment — but just a little).  Now the cells are wondering how it is at all possible to continue to exist without this movement of adoration. They are like that (), everywhere, everywhere.  It is very interesting.


The Mother: All these difﬁculties that one has with the inner development when one is dealing with the vital and the mental, the revivals of old things and all that, now here (in the body) are gone; it is not like that.   For a realisation, the whole being must be illumined; but for the beginning of a realisation, it is probably easier for a body that does not possess a very developed mind.... For us, well, who have reached the maximum possibility of the mind, it is through the maximum that we have gone beyond: it is only when the mind had realised its maximum that it abdicated. And this is quite all right for the integral realisation, but generally the body is too much used to obeying the mind, it is not supple enough to be transformed. And that is why my mind has been sent away....


The Mother: But that is a method which others cannot be encouraged to follow. For out of ten nine would die.  If the mind goes away.  The mind and the vital.  No, my child, I refuse to do it!


The Mother: () It must... it must step down.   A passivity is needed for the Force to be able to pass through quickly and reach the body.


The Mother: I see that each time there is a pressure for acting upon one part of the body or another, the thing begins by an absolute passivity which is... the “perfection of inertia”. You understand? It is the perfection of that which inertia represents as imperfect... something that has no activity  of its own. It is just the difﬁcult thing for those who have a very well-developed mind, very difﬁcult. Because the whole body has worked all its life for being just in this state of receptivity to the mind, which makes it obedient, passive, etc., and it is that which must be abolished.


The Mother: How to explain?... The development through mind means a constant and general awakening of the whole being, even the most material, an awakening as a result of which there is also something quite opposite to sleep. And to receive the Supreme Force, one must have, on the contrary, the equivalent of immobility — the immobility of sleep, , absolutely conscious. The body feels the difference.


The Mother: It feels the difference to such an extent that... for example, I stretch myself in the evening and I remain like that, for hours together I remain so; and if after a time I fall into ordinary sleep, my body wakes up in a terrible anguish! And then it begins again to put itself back into that state. This anguish I feel from time to time — and it goes away as soon as it gets back into the true attitude, which is a state of immobility, but absolutely conscious. “Immobility”, I do not know how to say it.... But it is almost the opposite of the inertia in immobility.


The Mother: And it is that which is making me understand now the reason why creation began with inertia. And so, that state had to be rediscovered () after having gone through all the states of consciousness. And it is that which has given us... () for us, it is a ﬁne mess! But when it is done purposely, it is no more a mess.


The Mother: Yes, yes.   Yes, but then the aspiration comes.  Yes, it is to counteract inertia. Because we still have inertia as our heritage.


The Mother: It is difﬁcult to say, because I am convinced that each one has his own way, but for this body the way is to have this active aspiration.  It has got the thing, it has understood the means, how to do it.  Yes, they are together. That is what it succeeded in getting: a complete immobility and an aspiration. It is only when immobility is there without the aspiration that it falls into a frightful anguish which wakes it up immediately.


The Mother: It is that, an intense aspiration. And it is absolutely immobile, immobile within, as though all the cells became immobile.... It must be that. What we call intense aspiration must be the supramental vibration. It must be the divine vibration, the true divine vibration.


The Mother: That I have said to myself often.  But if, even for a single minute, the body falls into the state of inertia — immobility without aspiration — it is awakened by an  anguish as though it were going to die! You understand? It is to that degree. For it, immobility means...


The Mother: yes, it has the feeling that the highest vibration, the vibration of the Consciousness, is so intense that it is... it is equivalent to the inertia of immobility — an intensity which is not perceptible to us. So great is this intensity that it is, for us, equivalent to inertia.  It is this which is getting established.  It is this which has made me understand (because now the body understands), has made it understand the process of creation....


The Mother: One might almost say that it began by a state of perfection, but unconscious, and that it must pass through this state of unconscious perfection to a state of conscious perfection, and between the two is the imperfection. Words are foolish, but you understand.  ( )  You know, the feeling is that one is on the threshold of understanding.


The Mother: And it is not at all a mental understanding, not at all, not at all. (One has had that, but it is nothing, nothing, it is zero.) It is an understanding that one And that the mind cannot have, cannot. And the feeling is that only the body — receptive, open, in any case partially transformed — is capable of having the understanding. Understanding the creation, what we call creation: why and how, the two things.


The Mother: It is not at all a thing thought out, it is not a thing felt: it is a thing lived and that is the only way of knowing.... It is a consciousness.  But you know, when this understanding comes — it comes and then it becomes like this (), it comes like this and then it dwindles, and comes again and again dwindles; but when it does come, it is so obvious, so simple that one asks oneself why one was not able to know it before!  Still more time is needed.... How long, I do not know.


The Mother: But the notion of time is also quite arbitrary.  We want always to translate all our experiences into the old  state of consciousness and is the misery! We think it is necessary, it is indispensable — and it is stupefying. It delays awfully.


The Mother: ( )  Everything, everything, everything that men have said, everything they have written, everything they have taught is only a way of saying. It is only to try to make oneself understood, but that is impossible. And when one thinks () how much one has fought for things that are so relative!...


The Mother: ( )  Looking at the days as they pass and at things that happen, the experience of the body appears like this.... In some way, at some moments it is in the consciousness of immortality, and then, through inﬂuence (and still, from time to time, through old habit) it falls back into the consciousness of mortality, and that is truly... for it now to fall back into the consciousness of mortality is an awful anguish; and it is only when it comes out of it, when it returns to the true consciousness, that the thing vanishes.


The Mother: And I understand why there have been people, there have been Yogis who spoke of the unreality of the world; because, to the consciousness of immortality, the consciousness of mortality is an unreal absurdity. It is like this ( ). So it is like this at one moment and like that at another. And the other state, the state of immortality, is immutably peaceful, tranquil, with... like staggeringly rapid waves, so rapid that they seem immobile.


The Mother: It is like that — nothing moves (apparently) in a tremendous Movement. And then as soon as the other state returns, all the ordinary notions also return, that is to say... in fact now, in the state where it is, that gives it the pain and the suffering of a falsehood. But it is still like that (  ).... To come out of it, the only, the only effective way is just to give up, surrender. It is not expressed by words, nor by ideas, nor by anything; it is a state of vibration in which nothing but the Divine Vibration has any value.


The Mother: Then, then only, things are put back in order.  But all that, as soon as one speaks of it...   Note, however, that this is constant: it comes at night, it comes in the morning: and then at other times when... ( ) no more problems, no more difﬁculty, nothing.


The Mother: ( )  There is a background (it is that particularly), a background of unconscious negation which is behind everything, everything, everything, still; it is still there everywhere — you eat, you breathe, you receive this negation.... It is still a colossal work to transform all that. But when one is, as one might say, on “the other side” (these are not “sides”), but in the other state, it appears so natural, so simple, that you ask yourself why it is not like that, why it appears so difﬁcult; and then, as soon as you are on the other side, it is... ( ).


The Mother: The mixture is still there, without doubt.  Indeed, the ordinary state, the old state is consciously (that is to say, it is a conscious perception) that of death and suffering.  And then in the other state, death and suffering appear as things absolutely... unreal. There!


The Mother: Here, take it ().  No impatience.  A trustful patience.   In truth, everything is for each one as good as it can be.


The Mother: All the time it is the old movements that get impatient.... That is to say, when one sees the all, one ﬁnds that certainly impatience has been created to counteract inertia — but now it is done with, that time has gone.   This morning about eight o’clock, I could have said many things.... Because there came a day when many problems had cropped up as a consequence of something that had happened, then this morning (towards the end of the night), I had the experience that was the explanation. And for two hours I lived in an absolutely clear perception (not a thought: a clear perception) of the why and how of creation.


The Mother: It was so luminous, so clear; it was irrefutable. It lasted at least for four or ﬁve hours and then it petered out; gradually the experience diminished in intensity and clarity.... I had just seen many people, then... it is difﬁcult to explain now. But all had become so limpid; all the contrary theories, everything was at the bottom (), and all the explanations, all that Sri Aurobindo had said and also some things that Th´eon had said were seen as a consequence of the experience: each thing in its place and absolutely clear.


The Mother: At that time I could have said it, but now it will be a little difﬁcult.  Is it not so? In spite of what one has read and all the theories and explanations, something was left (how to say it?) difﬁcult to “explain” (it is not “explaining”: that is quite trivial). For example, suffering and the will to inﬂict suffering, that side of the Manifestation. There has been, of course, as though a prevision of the original identity of hatred and love, because the thing was going to the extremes, but as for all the rest it was difﬁcult.


The Mother: Today it is so luminously simple, yes, it is that, so obvious!... ()  Words are nothing. And then I had scribbled with a pencil that wrote badly.... I don’t know if you can see the words. To me they represented something very exact: now they are nothing but words.


The Mother: ():   Yes, in the Lord they were evidently identical principles. And it was particularly that, the simplicity of this identity. And now they are nothing but words.


The Mother: ( )  It was not I who wrote it, that is to say, not the ordinary consciousness, and the pencil... I do not know any more what I have put down. ( )


The Mother: It was the vision of the creation — the vision, the understanding, the how, the why, the whither, everything was there, the whole of it together, and clear, clear, clear.... I tell you, I was in the midst of a golden glory — luminous, dazzling.  Well, the earth was there as the centre representing the creation, and then there was the identity of the inertia of the stone, of what is most inert, and then... ( )  I do not know if it will come.