I'm surprise nobody sees anything wrong in this. Eve had a strong relationship with UNC. Not only did she build a coach career at UNC but she also played for the school. She decides to leave (not fired) and takes with her all the assistant coaches leaving Joe by himself. Her departure may have triggered or accelerated an exodus of top players, a devastating hit on the program that she helped growth. Then, after a painful rebuild year for UNC, she takes from the program one of the top performance players. You would think that she not only wants to succeed in her new school but she would also wants her old program and all the players she recruited to do well too but her actions are not indicating that. I know she recruited Bell but she also recruited the rest of the players and cannibalizing the program is not helping them.
I understand (thank you for explaining). I have no idea WHY they left but I suppose I see Rackham going to Tennessee and Adams joining her as a business/professional move and not as a personal strike against Sagula or UNC. No doubt their paychecks increased substantially as well? Watt's only ties to UNC were Rackham so that makes sense too.
Bell transferring to Tennessee also seems to make sense because Rackham recruited her. Now if there was any tampering or collusion before the transfer became official that's a different story. But I'm guessing we'll never know if that's the case.
If Eve ever does want to come back I do wonder if fans will find her receptive because there are unknowns with motives for the exodus of staff.
The petty part of me wants UNC to get back to being a great team and to play Tennessee and squash them.
I see no problem with this at all. Look at it from Bell's perspective... she was recruited by Eve, connected with her and her vision, bought into what was the current roster talent, and based on that signed/graduated early and came to campus in January 2018.
By the time she arrives, the whole thing has blown up. The coach she connected the most with is gone. There is a mass exodus of quality players she thought she would be playing with (including Scoles who I think she really looked up to). Cap all this with a dreadful season (and watching the coach that left lead her new team to a terrific season)... I don't blame her one bit.
She really had no recourse at the time everyone left. She signed the letter. She was basically locked in.
She played, played very well... but clearly she either didn't like the situation and left first chance she could. I wish her the best.
She is... they are planning the wedding. Don't know if Gavin had dated any former Heels though.
This is silly. If UNC wants Eve when Joe is done and she has success at UT, they might not be able to afford her. Gavin and Tyler following her makes perfect sense. I imagine Tyler is making more Tennessee than Eve was at Carolina. And of course Gavin is going to follow his partner when she gets a huge job. His salary at Tennessee it's a heck of a lot more than he was making as the volunteer or working for NC Elite. It was also a good time to move on, given the roster instability. Why rebuild at UNC when you can start a new project for a whole lot more money?
The roster instability did not start until Eve left. Scoles and Leath were leaving but then other transfers did not happen until she left. She also had a stellar class coming in to work with and I'm willing to bet if she and Adams stayed and worked with the girls, not all the transfers would have happened and the current group would have also flourished last year. I get the SEC pays more money but I also think its fishy that Eve couldn't go out and find her own assistant coach so instead she took/recruited Joe's. But in the end Adams made the best decision he thought for him. Cant blame him for that. I get Gavin going since they are getting married and all that but regardless of the motives it looks fishy. Just my opinion.
Regardless we have Joe, Susan, and Mike. I'm confident in all their abilities and believe they can grow something good there at carolina. Mike has a ton of connections across the country and Susan has a strong knowledge of the game. Carolina will be just fine with some players returning from injury and more skilled recruits coming in this year.
It's not an SEC/ACC thing. It's that UNC doesn't pay all that well compared to a place like Tennessee.
I get that you're a fan, but I fail to see how Tyler and Gavin going with Eve is "fishy." Tyler's worked with her his whole career and Gavin is her partner. I'd have been surprised if Tyler stayed after all those years.
Or maybe she served loyally for years but saw that the existing coach planned to stay on much longer than he should, the university won't put enough resources into the program, and decided to further her career when UNC no longer provided a means. I have no idea which scenario is accurate, but the fact that she was able to "lure" both ACs along with her, leads one to think that things weren't all right at UNC.
It "looks" bad but I do not think there is any malice behind the decisions. If Tyler was offered the first assistant position at UNC and then Eve poached him, I could see that being a problem. But, we do not know if that was the case. It's just as possible that Joe identified Mike to replace Eve as the first assistant instead of Tyler and led to Tyler leaving. We announced Mike Schall and Susan Clements as our new two coaches on February 7. Tennessee named Tyler on February 8. Unless there was an incredibly bad break between Eve and Joe I cannot imagine any of this is being done below board.
I would also think that the situation with Ava is similar. The transfer rules are different this year than last. Coaches can no longer restrict athletes from going to particular schools, they do not have to get permission to talk to other schools, etc. Yes, this looks bad. But, I don't think Eve would have recruited her behind Joe's back. Since Ava had no choice but to stick it out this year since she enrolled early, I would not be surprised if she expressed her feelings to Joe long before the end of this season. Especially since she added herself to that transfer list very early. And from we hear about Joe, I don't imagine Joe would tell one of his athletes they couldn't go somewhere.
Ideal situation is Joe eventually retires, Eve comes back and Tyler gets a shot at Tennessee. However, if UCF continues to trend upwards, their coach can get a bigger job and Tyler could go back to his alma mater to take the reins.
I think Joe, Mike and Susan can be good, but I just wonder if they're going to be "Win the ACC but lose in the opening round of the tournament" good as Joe's previous teams before Eve got there were or if they can keep us at the "ranked in the top-15, top-10" good.
Mike is honestly going to be the X factor. Given his track record as a first assistant at Penn State, it's possible. Joe was successful before Eve - but it was ACC titles, not really ranked highly, top-100 recruits, a rare first round victory in the NCAA tournament. But we're talking about a different level of success now... that's no longer acceptable given what the program has done in the last four years. We need to be ranked in the top-15, top-10 regularly, getting the priced recruits as of late, and making the Sweet 16. We can't go backwards.
It "looks" bad but I do not think there is any malice behind the decisions. If Tyler was offered the first assistant position at UNC and then Eve poached him, I could see that being a problem.
"Problem" was more between Joe and Eve. But, it's also an unwritten rule between coaches - especially from someone who has been a mentor for so long. Poaching talent from a previous place - coaches or players - is just not something they do. Sometimes players follow a coach, but unless there was a broken relationship, you don't ask athletes to leave their school to join you. It's just a respect thing.
Obviously if Tyler wanted to follow Eve, that's his choice too. Just depends on how it all went down. But, again, I don't think this went down maliciously. Coaches and athletic departments can't even talk to staff members without getting permission (more of a formality). I'm sure it all went down above board.