hello，sorry to bother you.But can you analyze this song?Thank you very much.
Could you make your question more specific?
I asked if you could be more specific with your question.
Pls just answer it,did wendy have progress?
That’s specific enough that now I know what you want to know. There’s no change to her technique in this video.
1. It’s Wendy singing way more relaxed than before?You used to say she was nervous about singing,throat won’t open.
2. 1:48 Wendy sings in a high note then back to the original key during solo and then higher key again.Does she run very fluently?Because you said her runs sometimes sloppy.
3. 2:12 why dose Wendy always appear flat when sings high notes?It makes audience think she sings very easily but that is not necessarily true.
4. 2:19 Has Seulgi pitched voice been above her range?Because that high notes sounds not relaxing.
5. On the whole,did her participation makes this song more interesting?Compared to the two of them, who seems better?
Thank you very much.We look forward to your reply.
Hi I love specific questions!
1. Her lack of openness isn’t due to nerves, it’s just a vocal habit.
2. This isn’t what a run is. She’s just going back and forth between melody and harmonies which is a nice skill but not to do with agility.
3. I’m not sure what you mean, she was singing within her supported and in pitch. What do you mean flat?
4. Yes she hit a strained F5.
5. Well we already have analyses on Wendy and Seulgi. She’s certainly the most skilled vocalist of the three. I think they did this as a show off version of the song so it being more or less interesting is up to you.
https://youtu.be/S7WKGmftvh0 what do ypu think about wendy low note and her high note at 1:08:22 – 1:09:22 ?
Those were mostly C#5’s and D5’s which are part of Wendy’s supported range. It’s hard not to hear strain because Yeri is kind of shouting and straining throughout with her, but anything above D5 was definitely strained for both. Like G#5 and F#5?
I’m replying to Arliees, I feel that… perhaps you can be more polite when asking? Instead of saying ‘just answer it’ and ‘please answer’, it would be nice if you can respect that admins of this blog have their own life and are answering tons of questions without any charges. Asking questions and demanding answer in an almost order-like manner isn’t very nice. Also I think raising specific questions can help them to answer faster if you really want a quick reply, because only with that the admins know what they’re being asked and what to answer.
This was a recent cover uploaded by Wendy on Instagram a few weeks back singing Childish Gambino’s Redbone. The acoustics and the quality of the recording isn’t the best as there seems to be a lot of echo in the room.
I’m not very musically proficient but I’m curious if her more ‘heavier’ and ‘richer’ sound is stylistically produced like when she sings R&B songs or is it natural due to her voice maturing because it’s not apparent in the majority of her singing in Red Velvet songs.
Also regarding her singing in the video, how was her run(?) when she sang ‘pride’ in 0:18? Was her ‘mine’ in 0:37 resonant, or am I mistaken? I know her resonance is inconsistent and rare but did she produce resonance at any point in the video?
If you have the time, could you also please point out some of the strengths and weaknesses in her singing and if there has been an overall improvement in her technique?
Btw, I wanted to say thank you so much for always answering our questions and I hope you guys know how much we appreciate all your hard work and efforts.
Would you say Wendy has the most agile voice amongst SM’s female vocalists? And amongst SM’s vocalists in general?
You missed the part where they said female vocalists.
I suppose so yes, although between Wendy and Taeyeon they have each their moments.
Ahmin. Hows the D5s? Im not sure if those are D5s (the high notes of wendy) are they supported? How about those higher notes sang by wendy? Kamsahamnida.
If you’re going to ask about specific notes, please provide specific time stamps. I also don’t think this is live and you know we don’t really like watching weekend show performances full of choreography, oftentimes lip synched and whatnot, for vocal technique.
What note is Wendy singing at 1:34 and is it supported? And is Seulgi harmonising with her? What is she singing at?
It’s E5, octave unison. It’s very breathy for effect. It’s E4 and E5.
2:21 was there any resonance?
2:21 no resonance. 0:19 and 0:56 the lowest clearest note is C4, yes it’s supported.
In the song Kingdom Come, what’s the lowest note that Wendy hits during the ad-libs at 3:02? I can’t decide what note it is, but I feel like it’s lower than Eb3.
Shoot, my ears need work. Did her larynx sound lowered at all? To me it didn’t, but I’m not sure.
She literally had a slight crack perhaps because she’s tired or not warmed up. Calm down, you guys overreact too much with assuming everyone who’s tired is declining, they’re not.
Hey guys, what notes is she singing in this video at 1:34 and on… Specially the note she hits at 1:40. Do any of them carry support? Sorry for being the record, I checked their live performance and she didn’t sing this part.
Also, sorry for taking your time, I know you guys have a thousand other things to do.
It was an octave unison, E5 was the highest note and 1:40 the lower octave was E3. No, she does not carry support that low.
“Bro” lol It was head voice, up to F5.
0:54 No they’re not resonant, but they’re supported. 1:06 Same, the sound is placed in the mask, but the vowel is barely opened in the back of her throat and so the sound lacks roundness. I’m not sure why she holds the mic so close. The notes are B4’s btw.
Hi! If she is consistent on her resonance , could she easily be proficient to good ? , considering her evenly developed registers and her supported range . Also , if Wendy learns to lighten her mix , will she able to expand her supported range ?
Anyway , Thank you for making thia great page .
Perhaps, yes. It’s not a matter of lightening up her mix, her mixing technique in itself is good. Her openness is not.
https://youtu.be/iUFMorrecZc what do you think about this performance?
Singing while dancing requires massive stamina, not proper vocal technique. Wendy not being “stable” when dancing is not an issue.
You should’t listen to random people’s comments so easily. She sounds slightly tired. 2:42 Aye vowel, very closed throat shape for that vowel which is very common amongst many vocalists. It was E5 to C#5, 3:02 E5 here too, again above her supported range and on a very closed vowel.
Oh… Poor Wendy , she sound so tired here .
From what I have heard , Wendy has vocal nodules prior to debut . I think Wendy haven’t regressed in anyway. I think the note is not above D5??? so she can support it ? .
As I told the other commenter: ” 2:42 Aye vowel, very closed throat shape for that vowel which is very common amongst many vocalists. It was E5 to C#5, 3:02 E5 here too, again above her supported range and on a very closed vowel.” I don’t know what note above or not above D5 you’re referring to since you’re not providing a time stamp at all.
Oh…I just overlook them. Sorry for some carelessness .
Is it just me or is Wendy’s D5 at 3:26 resonant?
It isn’t, it just has nice reverb.
How has Wendy’s Vocal technique improved from pre-debut to present day?
Truth be told, we don’t really have that much material of Wendy singing before debut just a few things. So I can’t really tell you what she improved on greatly even though I am sure she improved.
How about from the happiness era to Present day?
Well I would say her biggest improvement would be that now she supports up to D5, but I wouldn’t say there has been any kind of major improvement. She’s just been pretty steady. However, I would say she mixes slightly better her upper notes like above D5 aren’t as strained as they were when they promoted happiness.
Hi you mentionned Joy has shallow support, what does that mean? and how do you fix it?
Wendy seems to have more ease in upper mixed voice than Taeyeon does. Does it mean she is less chestier than Taeyeon?
do you think wendy’s voice at a risk of declining in a couple of years at her current rate she sings?
Hello! May I ask what made you ask if she is at risk of declining? Sorry, I don’t keep up with RV aside from initial promotions, is there something wrong with her singing currently compared to before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKG62pKlz8k in this song stay with me is it a difficult song vocally? Did Wendy do well in this performance? Lastly is punch a good vocalist?
It is not that difficult, especially if she’s using head voice mostly throughout the chorus. Wendy did well, yes. If by good, you mean our rating good, I shall not answer that. If you mean sufficiently skilled, I suppose so.
is wendy considered a more agile vocalist then lina?
Lina or Luna? I suppose yes.
Lina’s runs fantastic? Her trills and slow runs can be nice, but her fast runs are often sloppy and she isn’t a smooth vocalist when it comes to run, she is generally very stiff.
The notes Eb5’s and F5’s, if this is them singing Happiness, she has never supported those notes. Please provide time stamps when asking specific questions.
I’d like you to analyze the higher notes in PRISTIN’s Sungyeon’s performance of “Just A Feeling” by S.E.S. They start at 2:03 and end at 2:20. Do you think they are supported or not, and should that be what a healthy head voice sounds like? Thank you!
Sungyeon is very good at mixing and placing her sound in her mask, so it really hides away strain when she sings but the way she sings is simply done by pushing with a high larynx in a bright mix. She is not open, the sound isn’t round, so as she gets higher, it becomes thinner and thinner. 2:03 ~ 2:20 She is using her jaw too much to sing these runs, and she used the runs from Mariah Carey’s Emotions as kind of “musicianship” but I’m not sure I’d say this is very good musicianship. The quality is very thin and pushy, her head voice is often very falsetto-like actually. I wouldn’t call it supported, no.
how to distinguish falsetto-like head voice and falsetto? just meaning a airy head voice?
Why are you sad? She sounds fine… Her voice sounds healthy just a bit tired and that could be because of many reasons. Why is everyone saying she’s losing her voice? What are they basing this off of? Wendy hasn’t had a solo performance in a while, and she’s doing a lot of dancing in the Red Velvet songs so like I get why she wouldn’t sound 100% there. Also RV has been extremely busy these days her voice is allowed to be tired. Does she probably need some rest and some vocal time off.. probably, but is she on the track of losing her voice and not being able to sing at all absolutely not.
So I keep seeing comments about Wendy’s voice declining or that she’s getting worse and I know it’s in studio but what do you think about the D5 at 2:30 and the A5 head voice at 3:00? Just want to make sure she’s still able to do well because if she can do it in studio that should mean she hasn’t declined.
They both fine. I honestly don’t understand why people are overreacting and claiming she’s “declining” because it just isn’t the case. Red Velvet is busy and being busy can lead to fatigue which is natural and normal and is easily fixed by some rest. I also don’t really understand what they are basing this off of because Wendy hasn’t sung solo in a while and during majority of her performances she’s been dancing, and as well all know isn’t the most optimal way to sing.
I’ve noticed that vocalists who have inconsistent resonance but still meet the standards of support are given the “mid-range vocalist” tag. Why does Wendy keep the “belter” tag if she doesn’t resonate consistently?
She supports higher than the mid range vocalists and produces resonance while keeping consistent support more often than the mid-range vocalists.
https://youtu.be/Ruh_k4NyoYw how about this performance ? is there any progress with her hed voice and falseto?
I know you mean the pre-chorus but provide time stamps next time. This only goes up to F#5, this is perfectly within her head voice supported range.
why is her voice getting thinner than dumb2 era? is that cuz to match red velvet song style or what?
Singing lighter is a stylistic choice, but on shows like Duet Song Festival, she still has fulness in her tone. You can’t rely on promotional pop singles to talk about their vocal technique all the time.
Thank you for asking this question because I was about to ask about the same thing. Also Very much thanks to ‘Ahmin’ and ‘Pandayeu for replying all our queries/doubts/fears for Wendy. I feel that Wendy needs to get a solo EP to showcase her vocals to use her full voice(or at least a solo song in the RV album itself), as her range and tone is too high for RV as a whole and SM may feel it won’t fit with the group?
How far is Wendy from being included in the MA Vocalist category?
Would she need more consistentcy in her runs in order to be included?
“How far” is all dependent on her and how she develops herself as a vocalist. Whether she is included in the MA vocalist category is no big deal at all, so try not to worry about it. Her agility is fine, but both Ahmin and I agreed that should be reserved for vocalist that have shown highly developed agility.
Hi! I just wanted to say I really appreciate how much time and effort you put into this website. Thank you for your insightful comments!
I was wondering how well executed Wendy’s run was in this performance? I’m sorry its not a studio version :(. Wendy’s part begins at 2:30 and she starts her run at 2:43.
The reason being that she slowed down the run, she was slightly flat and she was sliding for quite a bit of it.
As you see with our current system, it really doesn’t matter who’s better than whom.
https://youtu.be/L2tTl5Xem_U what note wendy hit at 3:08 (adlib)and is that strain?
Ok so if I understood correctly, Wendy can maintain ease all the way down to an F#3 (which is actually pretty exceptionally low for her right?), and yet the analysis says that her lower register is “fairly decent”. Out of curiosity, what would exactly would she have to do to make her lower register better? Or is this just a mild wording thing?
It’s nothing but a mild wording thing.
Ok I have a few small follow up questions lol. I was rereading the post which specifies the requirement for each tag a vocalist can be classified under. It says to be a Mid-range belter they must be able to produce resonance in their mixed register. But it says here that Wendy is inconsistent with resonance, so even inconsistent resonance is enough to be put under Mid-range belter?
And also, I see a lot on the blog about resonant mixed registers and head registers but not chest registers. It is possible to produce resonance in the chest register right?
The reason why we are considering Wendy a Mid Range Belter is because her support, and consistency in that area, except for resonance, is the same as everyone that we consider a Mid-Range Belter. I understand why some people would question why is she there because she is inconsistent with resonance, but her support in the area is better than those that we don’t consider to be a mid range belter. Therefore, it does not seem right for us to consider her not to be one. In addition, it’s not that Wendy doesn’t ever resonate because she does it’s just not as consistent. I hope you can understand.
Oh yeah one can definitely have resonance in chest voice it’s very possible. We’ve mentioned it in some analysis namely Jessica’s and I believe some others.
Kamsahamnida. A short analysis will do ❤❤❤ Super Thankyouuuu!
They both sang pretty much as expected. Seulgi was tense pretty much all throughout, this song is actually pretty high so they were both tense when it comes to the phrasing of the highnotes, but Seulgi was more tense than Wendy. There really isn’t much to say this wasn’t a very serious a performance so I won’t analyze it as such y’know?
I don’t mean to disappoint you, but that D5 was not very good and Irene isn’t a very strong vocalist.
yeah i know she is not very strong vocalist,but can you analyze that note,why that D5 is not good,cuz what i hear that was strong and stable.
Well, first, her support isn’t bring engaged well, so her larynx is going up and she’s pushing which means she’s straining and strained note is not a good not. Also what you’re calling “strong” is just loud..Shes just being loud nothing else. Also the notes bot what I would consider stable considering her voice is shaking and it’s not vibrato.
hey ahmin why you not answer this question?
Why admins are demanded to answer the question?I would have let you get away if you ask properly but your tone is very impolite as if you are faulting them for not answering the question. They are not obliged to serve anyone here and they CAN’T answer everything considering the amount questions they receive everyday. They have their own personal life yet they are trying so hard to keep this blog running. They have once said they simply run this blog simply out of enthusiasm and interest. They manage get this far by holding on such frail belief and have gone through so much because of this blog. They can simply abandon this whole site to live a happy life. Please be considerate and stop demanding them to do whatever for your own good. I don’t know how would they react to your comment, but I personally feel that I was commanded and pushed to the extent that I don’t enjoy a slightest to do so. Please at least make them feel comfortable to your question. They try to respond to every comment politely as much as they could and I remember ahmin saying: “I don’t think it’s nice to ignore comments.” He takes every comment seriously and clarify things the best he can. Don’t let him feel bad because of your comment. “hey ahmin why you not answer this question?” Let me answer this for him. “He can’t answer everything simply because he doesn’t have time. Or even he doesn’t want to answer and that’s totally fine.” Sorry if I overreact and being aggressive.
To answer your question in a less confrontational manner, there are many posts on this blog and only 2/3(?) admins, if I’m not mistaken. One might see a post and mean to respond, but forget because they’re preoccupied (which is likely, given that they have lives outside of this blog and don’t get paid for this) – or just not see it at all. They’re usually receptive to questions and even encourage them for educational purposes, so I doubt they intentionally left this person hanging.
In the future, maybe try something like “If it’s not too much trouble, could someone please respond to this when they get the chance?” I don’t know if you meant it to sound demanding, but it did come across that way.
Hi, not the admin, here to try to help. What everybody said before me is true about their busy lifestyles. However, I don’t think you meant in a mean way. A lot of stuff can get lost in meaning because there’s no face behind that question or message. But the others were right, wording is super important, more so to avoid misinterpretation.
C#5-B4-A4, then an F#5 peak-B4-C#5, then other notes in her supported range.
Like what she’s usually shown, consistent clean support to C#5 but never open enough to achieve resonance, brief tight F#5 on the second line and the rest was relaxed.
https://youtu.be/s053WoKEteM what do u think about this performance ? did wendy doing well?
Not an admin, but I think I can help out. I personally hear nothing new- she was in her comfortable supported range (for the most part), but lacking full openness and resonance.
You should post time stamps of any particular part you are curious about. It helps the admins and other fellow users.
https://youtu.be/xFZC_ebZBRg what do you think about her performance ? and how about her high note at 1:39?
Hi! Is Wendy still arguably the best female vocalist in third generation mainstream kpop?
And also, shame on those who are saying Wendy’s skills are declining. RV is doing really well these days, and being the main vocalist, she basically carries 50% of RV’s vocals and it’s really tiring. Give her a break, will y’all.
Hi could you tell me a bit about this note and if she did it well since it’s the longest one she’s ever held in a red velvet song.
This is a clip of just the note from their most recent concert this weekend. Thank you!
I would like to ask whether wendy’s vocal technique in the latest comeback is better . Because i have heard manh people comment that her technique has improved . I apologise as i am unable to attach a video clip as i am a tech idiot .
I just paste the link normally and it works for me.
Hello, I want to ask your opinions regarding Wendy’s vocal on recent performances and releases. Can you tell whether she has improved her vocal technique? I highly appreciate you if you can elaborate more or maybe can update her vocal analysis. I think most of the people thought that she definitely improving. WIth this comment, I attach a few videos on her recent performances and release.
Wendy’s singing Last Love during her concert in Seoul 2017.
I know you prefer live stage video but she didn’t have any live stages for some of these songs. Thank you if admin able to reply to this comment. I appreciate it very much.
Hello, I have one question about last comeback.
Are the notes at 0:11 2:07 2:54 2:56 a whistle notes? Isn’t it shouty a bit?
And is 3:02 just head voice? Cause it sounds somehow weird to me.
Thanks for your work on this blog, it’s really helpful :).
All those notes aren’t shouty a bit, they’re screaming. That’s not singing. It’s not even trying to pretend that it’s singing, it’s straight screaming up. The register used is a whistle register though, yes. It’s D7’s. 3:02 Yes head voice, D6.