To debate or not to debate, that is the question! Having exposed Sheikh Asrar “Fasiq” Rashid for misleading people into assuming that he had arranged a debate with the Shia at 5th November 2016 at Woodlands Road Mosque with a police presence when the truth was both the police and mosque President were ignorant of the alleged event (for which we appended supporting email evidence), we note how he has thus far gone completely silent, and his Bakri adherents that manage his Facebook account (so vocal over up until now) have been furiously deleting our posts and banning those Shia that highlight his fall from grace! The Fasiq Sheikh’s followers tried to rectify the matter by releasing a statement on the Woodlands Road Mosque Facebook Page declaring in a status update that the debate was going to take place, only for them to delete that and release a further status update declaring that no debate would be taking place! Whilst the normal decent thing for Asrar to do would be to apologise for the manner in which he had deceived the people, we know his ornerier nature, that is of course conduct becoming of a Fasiq, we therefore opine that he will set out to dupe his dim-witted hordes through “damage limitation”. We can predict that the next status from Sheikh Asrar “Fasiq” Rashid will allege that the venue was pre-booked but the committee were forced to make a U-turn as the Shia were planning to partake in violence in order to sabotage the event. We would urge his fan base not to act like lummoxes and simply accept what their dear Sheikh Fasiq will say, ask yourselves logically, why would a handful of Shia plan on entering a hostile Sunni environment surrounded by your Shaykh’s fanboys and partake in violence? That would be the height of stupidity on our part. We would be hopelessly outnumbered and would risk exposing ourselves to serious harm with no means of escape. That was the reason why we sought to ascertain from the police as to whether they would be in attendance as we sought assurances that we would be protected in the event that emotions and testosterone levels got to the better of Sheikh Fasiq’s followers and they mounted an assault on us. Sheikh Fasiq Rashid, it is time for you to stop playing these deceptive games, are you prepared to debate us, yes or no? If you and you are a true adherent of the Shaykhayn, then we repeat our challenged, namely that you respond by: *1) Agreeing to debate us on the topic "Are all the Sahaba just and in Paradise?" at a neutral venue of our choice. Details will follow shortly* *2) Attendees for both sides shall be limited to no more than 30 from each side* *3) Both sides will be permitted to record the event and live stream it / upload it to any media channel of their choice.* You have until the 4th of November 2016 to accept our terms.
Sheikh Asrar Rashid Exposed. ﷽ All praise be to Allah (ﷻ) who has exposed those that love the enemies of the Ahlubayt (عليهم السلام). Sheikh Asrar Rashid on his Facebook status on the 30th October 2016, Sheikh de jour Asrar Rashid mocked the UK based Shia for their failure to arrange a debate venue by the 29th October and on the 30th October proclaimed to his ardent fans via Facebook that there would be a debate at 8:30pm on the 5th November 2016 at Woodlands Road Mosque. Asrar also said the Police would be present to deal with any trouble makers. The Shia responded to his challenge, we started engaging those willing to attend and also identified a Shia scholar(s) who would debate Rashid on our behalf. As we were going to attend a hostile Bakri environment we thought it apt to seek confirmation that the police would indeed be in attendance. The local police were contacted today (2nd November 2016), and we received the attached response from Sergeant Choghtai. Two important things emerge: *1) The police were unaware of this debate at the mosque venue;* and *2) The mosque president didn't have a clue about it either and would not allow this debate in any case.* Allah (ﷻ) says in The Quran, Surah Hujarat, Ayah 6: "O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful." All praise be to Allah (ﷻ), we inquired into this matter and Sheikh Asrar has now been exposed to the world as a Fasiq. He misled his fanbase into thinking he was arranging a debate with Rawafid, when he had infact done no such thing. Sheikh Asrar has now destroyed his reputation, credibility and should hold his head in shame. In light of this serious act of dishonesty, the time where you call the shots and dictate the debate terms has gone. If you really want to debate us, rather than mislead your people into thinking that you do, Then you will respond by: *1) Agreeing to debate us on the topic "Are all the Sahaba just and in Paradise?" at a neutral venue of our choice. Details will follow shortly* *2) Attendees for both sides shall be limited to no more than 30 from each side* *3) Both sides will be permitted to record the event and live stream it / upload it to any media channel of their choice.* We will ensure police presence at the said event. You have until the 4th of November 2016 to accept our terms. Note regarding the confirmation of the above. Pleasd do not hesitate in contacting; Sergeant Haroon Chughati https://www.police.uk/west-midl…/…/sergeant-haroon-chughtai/ And Mosque 'Imam Sheikh Asrshad' Jamatica Islam Center, Woodlands Road, Sparkhill Birmingham Email; arshadsufi1970@gmail.com The following email was sent; Dear Sergeant Chughtai I have been informed that you are the Sgt responsible for the Sparkhill area in Birmingham. On Saturday the 5th November at 8.30 pm an academic religious discussion will be taking place in the Jamatia Islamic Center on Woodlands Road. This discussion will be between two different ideologies within Islam, Sufis and the Shia's. This event should be a peaceful and spiritually beneficial event, however I have grave concerns that certain elements within the community may use such an opportunity to commit acts of violence, causing sectarian tensions to erupt upon the streets of Birmingham. A visible police presence would reassure those wanting to attend the event that they will be safe and that acts of violence/ intimidation will not be tolerated by the Police. As you have a good working relationship with the mosque and it's community leaders it would be helpful if you would liaise with the mosque to ensure that the event on Saturday is a peaceful, safe event which showcases effective cooperation between the Police and the community. Best wishes Please find response from the station.
Salam. The Third Response; The Way Forward...Whilst we are pleased that Sheikh Asrar Rashid has confirmed his willingness to have a debate with Sheikh Allahyari, we are appalled by his slur that the UK based Shias have no one to debate him from there. We would like to remind Sheikh Asrar Rashid and his adherents that it is still a period of grief for Shia Muslims who commemorate the tragedy Karbala through a 40 day mourning period, that spans from Muharrum into Safar. Thus, many scholars and general the Shia public are busy either delivering lectures or attending them. Alhamduilliah the UK has many Shia scholars residing therein and we are hopeful that someone will heed Sheikh Ansar's call to a debate and meet with him on the 5th of November to agree the conditions of the said debate. Whilst Allahyari is present and willing for a satellite debate, we do agree with Sheikh Asrar that a live face to face debate in the UK would be more beneficial.In these circumstances we would ask that whilst the debate with Allahyari has been agreed in principle, priority should be given to those based in the UK to debate first. As such, we would request that Sheikh Asrar affords us the opportunity to approach UK based Shia Ulema to ascertain their willingness to debate him and allow them to come forward on the day. In these circumstances we would ask that Sheikh Asrar sets up the time and venue for the 5th November as intended. We will Inshallah during this time engage our scholars and invite then to respond to Sheikh Asrar's call.If by then the U.K based Shia community does not respond to this challenge, we will be willing to facilitate the series of debates proposed by Allahyari and arrange a time and day to discuss the conditions of the debate, that will of course be after the 5th of November 2016.
Wa Aleykuma Salam, brother. I will do that, insh'Allah.
Salam. Asrar Rashid has been informed personally, this is info for Shiites.
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