Its well worth trying FW Thornton, they have vast stocks.
-- part number 233586.  The '54 and earlier 75 has a different part number.
from downtown San Diego up to the auto museum several years ago.
Yes i still do have my P4 Rover 110, stills runs, take it out once in awhile, thru all this time, i had about 20 other rover cars , still in need of glass for my Cyclopes. I have acquired? 10 rovers back up and running on the road that i fixed, car just sitting and rotting? away owners not know where to get parts and as me being a mechanic i do what i can, as for a Rover ethicist and club member i say i do my part in the Rover world.
? Steve how are you doing?
the big six in it!
Other than that and the carpet, though, it might be solid?
in Warkworth (nr. Peterborough) Ontario, if that's not too far from you.
> Seized pivot at that swivel?
>>           The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods work fine.
>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs,  HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
critical to their ability to work.
so that the cylinder is free to move.
turns so that the cylinder can move to align the brake-shoes.
clicks on 2 side & 8 on the other.
the car, should someone be interested.
> Ciao, best regards, GR.
> what you need.  Please look for a message directly to you as well.
If anyone out there is interested in a running 1952 Riley 4-seat, 2.5 convertible. Been in storage a long time; very few left in the world.
The car i believe is in Southern California.
I have no details at all, but if you contact Carole below, and she has no detail either but will give you info contact to who has the car.
A bit vague I know but it needs to be saved.
2.5 convertible. Been in storage a long time; very few left in the world.
detail either but will give you info contact to who has the car.
1950 Rover Cyclops. Ran 5 years ago. Close to complete. Free for pickup.
BC title included. Needs restoration. Best home considered.
?? How about a trade for the P4 , for that Cyclops?? From Nelson O'R.
I just found the Cyclops on Craigslist in Vancouver it is not mine to trade.
Subject: [Rovernet ] "Nice day"
What a fabulous picture of a fabulous car!!!!!!
> What a fabulous picture of a fabulous car!!!!!!
Hi all         Last fall on my last outing the car developed a good chain rattle at idle.......for all who may recall in the summer i had the throttle hang wide open and ruin the cam, the cam housing and couple of tappets, etc......i rebuilt it and had an uneventful summer.  I figured the chain noise was the bottom chain tensioner since i had not touched the bottom end, except removing the sump to clean it and retrieve the carnage. Much to my surprise when i took off the oil cap and shone a flashlight in to find no top chain tensioner. I removed the valve cover and found the chain tensioner wedged down the side of the chain. I fished it out and lo and behold the metal part was there but no black bakelite piece ( or whatever the material the part that rides the chain is made of). It had come right off the metal housing........it appears to be glued on with some sort of adhesive..........The top tensioner was brand new when i put the head back on in the summer........It was an MG one but still had the spring with the allen ratchet..........Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue .......I will be installing another new one tomorrow........An aside to help other tensioner troubled Rovernuts......If you super glue the backing plate to the tensioner you ease your stress levels when trying to install through the inspection hole the  without removing the head.
inside the doors to put the nuts on looks like being a bit awkward.
appears to be based in that area.
> inside the doors to put the nuts on looks like being a bit awkward.
> be based in that area.
The black bit isn't bakelite, it's something like nylon. Basic problem, I'm sure, is that the tensioners are now made offshore (probably India) and you've run afoul of some poor quality control. I've never seen that myself.
And what I do to hold the tensioner together (presuming it has the retractor) is just smear it with wheel bearing grease. If I have to use a tensioner without a retractor, I just tie a bit of string around it. Even if the string gets away from me when I cut it, it will not cause any problem in the sump.
> MG one but still had the spring with the allen ratchet..........Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue .......I will be installing another new one tomorrow........An aside to help other tensioner troubled Rovernuts......If you super glue the backing plate to the tensioner you ease your stress levels when trying to install through the inspection hole the  without removing the head.
car to see for sure what they look like.
> photographer appears to be based in that area.
set of the 3500S NADA side  chrome (SS) if you want them just let me know.
doors to put the nuts on looks like being a bit awkward.
see if we have a rust-free 3500 door -- it might just be less bother.
European-spec 3500s, simply because I like the look of them better.
before I get to work on it.
> strip off a car to see for sure what they look like.
> partial sets...not cheap though.
>> being a bit awkward.
>> photographer appears to be based in that area.
Sorry to hear of your troubles Bill.
There's a growing problem with the quality of old-school classic car parts.  Since their original manufacturing bases have now long gone, many of these items are now made in "developing countries" and they are often nothing more than cheap-quality clone copies.  The problem first seems to have surfaced in the area of ignition and electrical parts [e.g. points, condensors, dizzy caps, rotors and voltage regulators] about 7-8 years ago.
Sadly it can only get worse.
> Hi all         Last fall on my last outing the car developed a good chain rattle at idle.......for all who may recall in the summer i had the throttle hang wide open and ruin the cam, the cam housing and couple of tappets, etc......i rebuilt it and had an uneventful summer.  I figured the chain noise was the bottom chain tensioner since i had not touched the bottom end, except removing the sump to clean it and retrieve the carnage. Much to my surprise when i took off the oil cap and shone a flashlight in to find no top chain tensioner. I removed the valve cover and found the chain tensioner wedged down the side of the chain. I fished it out and lo and behold the metal part was there but no black bakelite piece ( or whatever the material the part that rides the chain is made of). It had come right off the metal housing........it appears to be glued on with some sort of adhesive..........The top tensioner was brand new when i put the head back on in the summer........It was an MG one but still had the spring with the allen ratchet..........Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue .......I will be installing another new one tomorrow........An aside to help other tensioner troubled Rovernuts......If you super glue the backing plate to the tensioner you ease your stress levels when trying to install through the inspection hole the  without removing the head.
Subject: [Rovernet ] a Rover Diesel?
A friend of mine said that Rover developed a diesel engine called the Perkins diesel.
Anybody ever hear of it?
Perkins has always been a separate company, but the Perkins Prima was used in several Austin cars during the eighties and early nineties. The Rover L-series diesel was reportedly derived from the Perkins unit and was used in Rover diesel cars from the late 90s.
Perkins diesels are  a popular conversion for older  Land Rovers.
> A friend of mine said that Rover developed a diesel engine called the Perkins diesel.
developed several diesels of their own and used at least two "bought in"
designed and built the 200TDi and 300TDi diesels for use in Land Rovers.
(2400D) and Range Rover and subsequently in the 800 series cars.
Rovers from 1993 til 1995.
only diesel Rovers we got in North America were 2.25 litre Land Rovers.
> Anybody ever hear of it?
A P4 used to run around the Nelson area of NZ on a homebrew diesel engine conversion.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] a Rover Diesel?
> Perkins has always been a separate company, but the Perkins Prima was used in several Austin cars during the eighties and early nineties. The Rover L-series diesel was reportedly derived from the Perkins unit and was used in Rover diesel cars from the late 90s.
> Perkins diesels are a popular conversion for older Land Rovers.
> > A friend of mine said that Rover developed a diesel engine called the Perkins diesel.
Thanks, Kent, for your erudite and authoritative reply.
I contacted Carol but she replied that she has no further information on the car. Does anyone know anything about it or how to contact the owner?
>          If anyone out there is interested in a running 1952 Riley 4-seat, 2.5 convertible. Been in storage a long time; very few left in the world.
> The car i believe is in Southern California.
> I have no details at all, but if you contact Carole below, and she has no detail either but will give you info contact to who has the car.
> A bit vague I know but it needs to be saved.
I'll talk to Carol see if I can find out any thing.
car. Does anyone know anything about it or how to contact the owner?
> 2.5 convertible. Been in storage a long time; very few left in the world.
> detail either but will give you info contact to who has the car.
> I contacted Carol but she replied that she has no further information on the car. Does anyone know anything about it or how to contact the owner?
Having said that, they are gorgeous cars that are extremely rare.
look, I can promise you that.
a LHD P5B over here until now.
Perhaps there are a few more to be found?
RoveAmerica 12 is being held in Fitchburg MA again this year from Thursday evening May 31st to Sunday June 3rd. We have great plans in the works for another memorable event!!! We will be sending out emails and posting the event schedule online at www.roveramerica.com very soon.
If you know of someone who does not go online or receive email and have an address I would be happy yo mail an invitation just let me know.
As always we want you participation with or with out a Rover so try and make it!
explain...  Sorry, it is not a Rover!
I used to play in our Porsche while I was waiting for the school bus.
driveway, for many years before we began to restore it.
I went there and finished the metalwork myself!!
long time, starting in 1970!
from the hospital in it!!
this car, I may not be interested in Rovers, or I may not be here at all!!
> event schedule online at www.roveramerica.com very soon.
> address I would be happy yo mail an invitation just let me know.
If any one is interested I have a photo of the Riley Drop head that was mentioned a while back.
email me of list and I will forward it. A nice looking car.
Congratulations Garrett! Great story about a great car and a labor of love.
> explain...  Sorry, it is not a Rover!
>       I used to play in our Porsche while I was waiting for the school bus.
> driveway, for many years before we began to restore it.
> I went there and finished the metalwork myself!!
> long time, starting in 1970!
> from the hospital in it!!
> this car, I may not be interested in Rovers, or I may not be here at all!!
> My best to you all!
interest in other cars as well!..with ownership into other ones too.
lot of others do too.
> Congratulations Garrett! Great story about a great car and a labor of love.
>> explain...  Sorry, it is not a Rover!
>> driveway, for many years before we began to restore it.
>> I went there and finished the metalwork myself!!
>> long time, starting in 1970!
>> from the hospital in it!!
>> this car, I may not be interested in Rovers, or I may not be here at all!!
>> My best to you all!
WOW!  a Jaguar XJ6 from Goodwill!  That is quite a turn of events!!
will drop out of the sky and land at your feet!!
> interest in other cars as well!..with ownership into other ones too.
> lot of others do too.
> >> explain...  Sorry, it is not a Rover!
> >> driveway, for many years before we began to restore it.
> >> I went there and finished the metalwork myself!!
> >> long time, starting in 1970!
> >> from the hospital in it!!
> >> My best to you all!
I think that you will want to talk with John of John's cars.
>    WOW!  a Jaguar XJ6 from Goodwill!  That is quite a turn of events!!
> will drop out of the sky and land at your feet!!
It is a beautiful history and I understand you very well.
Yesterday I was in Udine with a  friend of mine , who is a 356 owner.
He told me that for Easter the car will leave the garage, and we are going to make an eastern pic - nic!
Best regards, hear you soon, GR.
John's Cars in Dallas makes the kit you need.
more smoothly, is easier to rebuild and seal against leaking.
> I think that you will want to talk with John of John's cars.
>>   WOW!  a Jaguar XJ6 from Goodwill!  That is quite a turn of events!!
>> '70s XJ6 2 door sedan and sending the car to its owner in Saudi Arabia!!
>> will drop out of the sky and land at your feet!!
Not totally certain, but 14 psi comes to mind. I know the 4cyl cars are 7 psi.
overflow tank for the cooling system.  I run one that is 8 pounds on mine.
an "Atlas" cap of that pressure rating.
I have the Radiator cap listed as 15lbs. Part number RC315, Beck Arnley part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> I have the Radiator cap listed as 15lbs. Part number RC315, Beck Arnley part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> > Where are you?
> > part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > > Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
Thats very kind Dennis. I seem to remember that not many NADA owners actually took the time out to read properly and understand what I was looking for last time. I.E. A original, unmolested low mileage car as was the request. Instead was offered everything but. Sorry if you feel hard done by Dennis, I feel your agressive stance to be unjustified as you clearly did not understand the requirements previously. Aside from yourself I have had the pleasure to deal with certain individuals from Rovernet and have found it a useful forum. Maybe my idea of 'mint' or 'unmolested' is different to yours. Being in the motor industry professionally (ex Bentley master Technican) I have high expectations.
I hope someone can restore my faith from the other side of the water. And Dennis, please refrain from making silly comments and pay miore attention to what was written in the first place, would save us all from the monotony.
> > > Where are you?
> > > part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > > > Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> > > > James.
To be frank Richard, what was written before sounds much like the typical post of a poser, sounding big and important while setting conditions on the request such that it can never be satisfied. I have no idea who you are, but I do know Dennis from the Rovernet over the years and I am much more likely to believe him than you.
> Thats very kind Dennis. I seem to remember that not many NADA owners actually took the time out to read properly and understand what I was looking for last time. I.E. A original, unmolested low mileage car as was the request. Instead was offered everything but. Sorry if you feel hard done by Dennis, I feel your agressive stance to be unjustified as you clearly did not understand the requirements previously. Aside from yourself I have had the pleasure to deal with certain individuals from Rovernet and have found it a useful forum. Maybe my idea of 'mint' or 'unmolested' is different to yours. Being in the motor industry professionally (ex Bentley master Technican) I have high expectations.
> I hope someone can restore my faith from the other side of the water. And Dennis, please refrain from making silly comments and pay miore attention to what was written in the first place, would save us all from the monotony.
>>>> part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
>>>>> Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
I was fully aware of what you asked for ..at the time I was considering selling my car but I changed my mind on the advice of others .  I am sure someone on your side of the pond would be able to confirm that you are a fine gentleman who has great intentions ...otherwise I would suggest the term "Seller Beware" may apply ..   You my friend have a history on this side of the pond...  Thanks ..
> > > > Where are you?
> > > > part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > > > http://www.saintgeorgeltd.com/Part-Listings/Coolng%20System/RADIATOR%20CAPS.
> > > > > Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> > > > > James.
> > > > No virus found in this message.
> To be frank Richard, what was written before sounds much like the typical post of a poser, sounding big and important while setting conditions on the request such that it can never be satisfied. I have no idea who you are, but I do know Dennis from the Rovernet over the years and I am much more likely to believe him than you.
> > Thats very kind Dennis. I seem to remember that not many NADA owners actually took the time out to read properly and understand what I was looking for last time. I.E. A original, unmolested low mileage car as was the request. Instead was offered everything but. Sorry if you feel hard done by Dennis, I feel your agressive stance to be unjustified as you clearly did not understand the requirements previously. Aside from yourself I have had the pleasure to deal with certain individuals from Rovernet and have found it a useful forum. Maybe my idea of 'mint' or 'unmolested' is different to yours. Being in the motor industry professionally (ex Bentley master Technican) I have high expectations.
> > I hope someone can restore my faith from the other side of the water. And Dennis, please refrain from making silly comments and pay miore attention to what was written in the first place, would save us all from the monotony.
> >>>> Where are you?
> >>>> part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> >>>>> Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> >>>> No virus found in this message.
You just just proved my point. If you knew what I wanted why did you offer me something else??
If anyone is in doubt why don't you post your pictures of the car and my requirements next to it?
As for having a 'history', yes I do, safely purchased 2 cars last year from California, unfortunately the third fell through as I had a change in circumstances.
It's so easy to rubbish someones good name especially at a distance, personally I wouldn't do that to someone else even if I had nothing else to do.
> I was fully aware of what you asked for ..at the time I was considering selling my car but I changed my mind on the advice of others . I am sure someone on your side of the pond would be able to confirm that you are a fine gentleman who has great intentions ...otherwise I would suggest the term "Seller Beware" may apply .. You my friend have a history on this side of the pond... Thanks ..
> > > > > Where are you?
> > > > > part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > > > > http://www.saintgeorgeltd.com/Part-Listings/Coolng%20System/RADIATOR%20CAPS.
> > > > > > Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> > > > > > James.
> > > > > No virus found in this message.
It appears that we are entering into playground politics. Vern, you don't know me and are in no position to comment. Secondly, I don't like this 'us' and 'them' attitude. So being gracious I will delete my membership and stick with the UK forum as I am blown away by the attitudes I alone have encountered. Simply not going to lower myself to a level new to me. I wish you all goodluck but I want no part of this, would be easy for me to judge people I don't know but thankfully I have morals that stop me from doing it.
> > To be frank Richard, what was written before sounds much like the typical post of a poser, sounding big and important while setting conditions on the request such that it can never be satisfied. I have no idea who you are, but I do know Dennis from the Rovernet over the years and I am much more likely to believe him than you.
> > > Thats very kind Dennis. I seem to remember that not many NADA owners actually took the time out to read properly and understand what I was looking for last time. I.E. A original, unmolested low mileage car as was the request. Instead was offered everything but. Sorry if you feel hard done by Dennis, I feel your agressive stance to be unjustified as you clearly did not understand the requirements previously. Aside from yourself I have had the pleasure to deal with certain individuals from Rovernet and have found it a useful forum. Maybe my idea of 'mint' or 'unmolested' is different to yours. Being in the motor industry professionally (ex Bentley master Technican) I have high expectations.
> > > I hope someone can restore my faith from the other side of the water. And Dennis, please refrain from making silly comments and pay miore attention to what was written in the first place, would save us all from the monotony.
> > >>>> Where are you?
> > >>>> part number 133-8052, alternate part number FR56, GRC110, GRC181, 459-695.
> > >>>>> Scroll down a bit to Rover 3500S.
> > >>>> No virus found in this message.
Subject: [Rovernet ] genuine p4,p5,p6 carpet sets?
I have someone that is going to England within the next few weeks and i have made a list of car parts while he is visiting there. I like to get genuine quality carpet/interiors for my Rover cars. Does anyone know of any good places to go? I would like to get names address and numbers if so. few years ago i was ordering from this guy that was selling them on Ebay, but i lost the info.
gasoline with a button on the dash.
> a LHD P5B over here until now.
> Perhaps there are a few more to be found?
> Thanks for sharing the photo!
the same as Triumph stag or MGB, or are they unique? Thank you, James Dean.
> Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
> stay on, next test.
>> the axels if I have any spares.
>> to the usual suspects in the UK?
>> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
As far as I know the splines are standard Rudge pattern. I have no idea if the Dunlop wires follow that pattern. New hubs are required front and rear, the fronts are a straight swap but the rears require a different washer, nut & a circlip to attach the hub to the halfshaft (now I know what the groove in the end of the halfshaft is for). I've also only seen a 4cyl car with wires, so a P6B may have other issues.
>> Something I thought would never happen: a P6 part off the shelf at Napa Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
>> The wire wheels are on! And they even go round. Now we will see if they stay on, next test.
>>> the axels if I have any spares.
>>> to the usual suspects in the UK?
>>> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
is indeed beautiful. Dirk also has at least one P5B saloon.
> there is a handful.
> gasoline with a button on the dash.
>> a LHD P5B over here until now.
>> Perhaps there are a few more to be found?
>> Thanks for sharing the photo!
> 4cyl car with wires, so a P6B may have other issues.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian McDonald"
>>> Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
>>> stay on, next test.
>>>> the axels if I have any spares.
>>>> to the usual suspects in the UK?
>>>> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
narrower than the 5.5" standard on the V8 models at 14x5.
> seen a set, so am not familiar with what is involved.
It has always been my understanding that wire wheels are not used or recommended on the P6B, can be dangerous because of the greater torque from the V8 engine on the rears. I believe this as I have seen the damage caused to the plate that holds the diff in place also caused by torque.
> As far as I know the splines are standard Rudge pattern. I have no idea if the Dunlop wires follow that pattern. New hubs are required front and rear, the fronts are a straight swap but the rears require a different washer, nut & a circlip to attach the hub to the halfshaft (now I know what the groove in the end of the halfshaft is for). I've also only seen a 4cyl car with wires, so a P6B may have other issues.
> >> Something I thought would never happen: a P6 part off the shelf at Napa Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
> >> The wire wheels are on! And they even go round. Now we will see if they stay on, next test.
> >>> the axels if I have any spares.
> >>> to the usual suspects in the UK?
> >>> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
> >>> No virus found in this message.
The wheels are unique to Rover P6's as the wheels have the larger 52mm Jaguar hubs.  I've seen the splined hubs listed on MWS website.
> the same as Triumph stag or MGB, or are they unique? Thank you, James Dean.
> > Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
> > stay on, next test.
> >> the axels if I have any spares.
> >> to the usual suspects in the UK?
> >> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
It does not look bad.
It will cost a fortune to bring back to life.
> It does not look bad.
I have serveral sets of Rover P6 wire wheels , they are not unique to the rover P6 ---they were actually "borrowed " from an Alvis ---sadly I don't know which Alvis --probably a TD21..
One of the sets of 5 wheels is fully refurbished and fitted with new Barum 165x14 tyres .
> The wheels are unique to Rover P6's as the wheels have the larger 52mm Jaguar hubs. I've seen the splined hubs listed on MWS website.
> > the same as Triumph stag or MGB, or are they unique? Thank you, James Dean.
> > > Auto Parts. Universal joint- Precision 331. Perfect!
> > > stay on, next test.
> > >> the axels if I have any spares.
> > >> to the usual suspects in the UK?
> > >> undertaking the task. At this point, it is becoming a bit frustrating!
> > >> No virus found in this message.