[0:01] <methuzla> so i see two empty lines, you pressed the button twice?
[0:03] <methuzla> stops at zero?
[0:06] <methuzla> and if you press the button again then. what happens?
[0:09] <methuzla> and you mentioned it way back, but just to be sure, same behavior if you increase bouncetime?
[0:12] <methuzla> oddness and strangeful it is. i give up.
[0:33] <ThePendulum> you wrote some middleware for flux, or how do you get them to communicate?
[0:34] <rpgw_> The unicorn hat can go very bright, but if I put it one 255,255,255 full brightness it seems to crash the pi. maybe because of power.. though I am using an official Pi power supply.
[0:34] <Xark> rpgw_: Likely power.
[0:50] <wireddude> pizero troubles again - now i finally am connected to internet, however when I run an apt-get update it stalls. is there an alternate apt sources i should be using?
[0:54] <wireddude> Valduare: yeah, I have 2 other pi's and no trouble with them..
[0:54] <Xark> wireddude: Yeah, it took a while, but no issues updating on RPi0 for me.
[0:55] <wireddude> that's what I'm going to try once i get it working.
[1:48] <StephenLynx> hey, if I wanted a 14 inch screen more or less attached to my rasp, which would be my best options?
[1:49] <Xark> StephenLynx: You already have the screen?
[1:50] <plugwash> what kind of resoloution? how much do you care about the size?
[1:50] <Xark> StephenLynx: Generally no problem to get a VESA mount, or even just velcro tape RPi on to back of unit.
[1:51] <Xark> StephenLynx: Okay. You can get 720p 7" HDMI, but sounds like you want bigger.
[1:52] <StephenLynx> HD is overkill.
[1:53] <StephenLynx> there isn't people selling this kind of component? generic displays so you can assemble some sort of box?
[1:53] <StephenLynx> or there isn;t enough demand to justify mass production?
[1:54] <StephenLynx> the problem is that this is a monitor, I want something to go inside a box.
[3:51] <NetSecJedi> anyone have their pi monitoring an aquarium?
[4:25] <Electronized> What do I pass for the ID paramitter of wiringPiI2CSetup() from the wiringPi library?
[4:33] <methuzla> Electronized "The ID is the I2C number of the device and you can use the i2cdetect program to find this out."
[4:34] <Electronized> methuzla: What am I running that program on?
[4:36] <methuzla> what do you mean?
[4:59] <Electronized> How do I fix this?
[5:00] <sir_galahad_ad> are you using an IDE or just a text editor and compiling by hand?
[5:00] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: I took the wiringPi library file and I put them in my project directory. then using #include "wiringPi/wiringPi.h"
[5:01] <methuzla> Electronized are you setup for cross compiling?
[5:02] <methuzla> Electronized C:\program <- you're working on a windows machine?
[5:02] <sir_galahad_ad> methuzla: he could be using the windows for rpi no?
[5:04] <Electronized> wiringPi doesn't work on Windows?
[5:04] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: lets start at the begining?
[5:05] <sir_galahad_ad> what OS are you running on your rpi?
[5:06] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: Raspbian. I am writing this program on my Windows 8.1 PC right now, but it will run on Raspbian.
[5:07] <sir_galahad_ad> ok Electronized i'm going to suggest that you write your program on raspian, i assume you're fairly familiar with the use of linux and writing programs in C/C++?
[5:08] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: nope to both?
[5:09] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: I am familiar with using linux but I haven't written any programs on linux.
[5:09] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: ok but are you familiar with writing programs in general?
[5:09] <sir_galahad_ad> Valduare: your screen is too good!
[5:09] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: in C/C++ or another language?
[5:11] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: have you compiled a program without an IDE before?
[5:21] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: Oh I see, interesting.
[5:22] <Electronized> methuzla: What is a samba share?
[5:22] <Electronized> methuzla: Could I write the code on my Windows machine and compile it on Debian Linux?
[5:23] <Electronized> How do I get WiringPi working?
[5:24] <sir_galahad_ad> you can set up g++ to work as a 'cross compiler' which will compile programs for other architectures, but if i recall it's a bit of a process to get used to.
[5:24] <methuzla> yeah. don't go there.
[5:25] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad and methuzla oh so I can't get it to compile wiringPi unless I am using an ARM architecture machine?
[5:25] <Electronized> methuzla: "you can set up g++ to work as a 'cross compiler' which will compile programs for other architectures, but if i recall it's a bit of a process to get used to."
[5:27] <Electronized> So what do I get once wiringPi is compiled?
[5:27] <Electronized> An object file?
[5:28] <sir_galahad_ad> your best and simplest bet is to compile your programs 'natively' which is to say on the machine of the same type that they're designed to run on.
[5:29] <Electronized> If I can able to get a hold of a wiringPi .o file could I compile that with my project and get the program to work?
[5:30] <methuzla> space? like the SD card is full?
[5:30] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: Oh so #include <wiringPi.h> alone will work?
[5:31] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: yes and no.
[5:31] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: What's the no?
[5:32] <plentypaprika> on what level of difficulty does hosting a website on a rasbpi fall under?
[5:35] <Electronized> so like only include -lwiringPi when on Linux?
[5:35] <Electronized> Hey sir_galahad_ad and methuzla Is there a way to set a platform specific linker setting?
[5:35] <[Saint]> Up yours, mirrordirector.
[5:36] <methuzla> Electronized why are you space limited on the pi?
[5:37] <sir_galahad_ad> Electronized: how would you have gotten the finished program on the pi?
[5:38] <methuzla> so you don't have an SD card with a working boot image for the pi?
[5:38] <Electronized> Like 1GB tops left on it.
[5:38] <methuzla> what's on it right now?
[5:42] <sir_galahad_ad> although i have to admit at the time that number didn't mean much to me.
[5:43] <PhotoJim> and it was surprising what you could do in 5 kB on a stock VIC-20.
[5:43] <PhotoJim> the very earliest ones.
[5:48] <methuzla> huh. well. look at that. sure enough. coco i at least.
[5:51] <methuzla> anywho. my coco2 didn't have that labeling.
[6:03] * sir_galahad_ad hopes electronized gets his stuff figured out.
[6:08] <Electronized> sir_galahad_ad: Thanks for your helps and such, night!
[6:17] <asterismo> will a raspi 2 model b support a 64 gb micro sd card?
[6:32] <asterismo> would it run virtualbox with an encrypted LVM of 1TB maybe in an external drive?
[6:34] <Electronized> asterismo: Np! The Pi isn't great for running VM's since it has 1GB ram. You might be able to pull it off.
[6:35] <asterismo> would it support irc, jabber apache and mail server?, say for few people¿?
[6:37] <Electronized> asterismo: I am not sure about that part. I haven't tried to do that stuff before. I think you may be able to find people using it as a small server online.
[6:42] * Xark is quite happy with is RPi2 being a ZNC IRC proxy - recommended.
[6:50] <brianx> i run irc, jabber and ngix on a pi b+ classic 256mb. no trouble.
[6:50] <brianx> half a dozen users on the irc.
[6:53] <brianx> the ngix is not public though. very little use.
[7:01] <brianx> same here Xark. but this system only delivers lines to the phone on tabs i click. it also sends only 100 lines (configurable) until i ask for more.
[7:02] <brianx> mine are more like 2.
[7:04] <RealGuy> So what do you guys do when you like a girl?
[7:04] <brianx> i've noticed my data is way down since using weechat compared to the webclient i used before.
[7:05] <brianx> RealGuy: this is irc, we don't like girls.
[7:07] <RealGuy> brianx: How do you reproduce?
[7:07] <brianx> try ##electronics. they make electric girls there.
[7:08] <brianx> RealGuy: do you honestly think this is the right place to get advice on dating?
[7:10] <RealGuy> brianx: Do you have any stories?
[7:12] <brianx> lots, but this really isn't the place. i spend time in #polyamory occasionally but haven't lately. there are appropriate channels.
[7:24] <Berg> how old ya are RealGuy ?
[7:27] <RealGuy> What is something you wish you would of done/knew when you were younger/ in school?
[7:29] <[Saint]> That children on the now would all be retarded.
[7:30] <Berg> sorry admining other channel /// I would like to know what i know now then!
[7:31] <[Saint]> Ooooh, I've got one. "That the IT sector really has no way of supporting all those the education sector was pushing at it then, let alone now"
[7:31] <brianx> the cubs didn't win either.
[7:32] <brianx> the movie was wrong.
[7:33] <[Saint]> You mean Parkinson's?
[7:37] <[Saint]> I suppose some good ones to keep in mind when you're young, given the beauty of hindsight are "You will almost certainly forget that girl/boy", "You will get hurt, this is OK", "People can and do understand you", "Being mistaken isn't the same as being wrong, and it if OK to be either", "You will probably lose contact will all the friends you have no as you all grow and develop into functional humans" ...etc.
[7:39] <[Saint]> Those are all from my own personal bank of adult life realizations.
[7:40] <[Saint]> Another one would be "No one else can make you happy, this is entirely up to you"
[7:45] <tohipfortheroom> hows everyone doing tonight?
[7:48] <Macgyver0> Keeping it real, yourself?
[7:48] <MiningInc> Keeping it real, as well.
[9:27] <NicoHood> Ive got an sd card with two partitions. sdc1, (sdc2) and sdc5. My file explorer only lists the sdc5 as mountable partition, but via command line i can also mount sdc1. So why doesnt it show up? What is required for the "simple gui" to show partitions?
[9:28] <ShorTie> it doesn't like fat partitions ??
[9:28] <MiningInc> anyone know how long(ish) stop/start for dphys-swapfile should take on pi?
[9:28] <NicoHood> but it only sees the settings partition.
[9:29] <ShorTie> what is the interest in noobs for ??
[10:59] <h4x3> somebody got experiences with exagear on pi?
[11:08] <h4x3> is ubuntu mate slower than wheezy jessie on pi2b?
[13:31] <Sonny_Jim> Can anyone recommend a chip that I can use as a level shifter (3v<->5V) for the GPIO?
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> but for the other way it's trickier.
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> the 4021 is running at 5v?
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> ah, right. So the Pi is pretending to be the joystick buttons.
[13:40] <fiveflowerzz> With the new Raspbian Jessie Lite, what's the place to set WIFI name & password? in which config file?
[13:40] <Sonny_Jim> Can that go up to 21MHz though?
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, it could- would have to change the input clock to the divider though.
[13:41] <fiveflowerzz> gordonDrogon : where do you usually set this?
[13:43] <fiveflowerzz> gordonDrogon only this file? nothing else to configure?
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, yes, the 245 will work, but you need to set the direction.
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, can I just clarify - you're making the Pi pretend to be the joystick?
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> right - so the Pi is in-between a real joystick and the real game.
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> I think i'd not "clock" data into the console.
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> what I'd so is make a joystick using the same circuit that's in a joystock - ie. the shift register, then on the inputs to the SR use optoisolators which can be turned on/off by the Pi.
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> or not look at the clock at all.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> so the Pi is bridging switches.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> thats fine - solved - but Pi to SNES - make the Pi be switches not a shift register emulator. ie. have a real shift register in there.
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> you could do this with one joystick - have the pi read the switches in 'record' mode, then push the switches (via opto isolators) in playback mode.
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> and those same lines read the switches in record mode.
[13:53] <randssd> can you do an install on the Pi 2 from a USB thumb drive instead of the MicroSD card?
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> randssd, not easilly you still need to boot off the SD.
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> I presume the snes controlles have 2 x 4021' in them?
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> I make that 30GPIO?
[14:00] <Sonny_Jim> How many GPIO does the Pi2 have in total?
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> erm. 28 i think.
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> ok, so it can be done with 12 + 1 = 13 per controller.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> doing it that way - probably yes.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> I still think it's possible to sense and send with one gpio pin on the Pi, so 12 pins per controller - maybe one for direction.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> that's not clocking anything anywhere at all.
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> I'd not do that either. although using an ISR on the Pi to sample the clock should work.
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> you'd need 4 chips per controller in my scheme though. I can see that might be an issue if trying to keep it small & simple.
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> ah. 15�S was what I meansured the fastest ISR time using wiringPi.
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> for the button emulator it would work - a pair of 595's.
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> or a single 16-bit one but I don't know offhand if there is such a thing.
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> joystick into Pi - run the joystick at 3.3v - that worked for me on the old NES controllers. Pi to SNES is the issue - that's when you need a �C pretending to be the 4021 shift registers or you use real 4021's with 12 outputs from the Pi.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> use a mcp23017 gpio chip driving 2 x 4021's which are clocked from the console.
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> (no resistors needed) and use an i2c mcp23017 for a 2-wire solution or mcp23s17 with spi for 4-wires.
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> right - the 674 would do the same as I suggested with the 23017.
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> you'd need to work out the timind over the I2C bus to see if it's fast enough to simulate the minimum button push time on the controller. (work that out too by working out the sample cycle time - unless the controller has a built in mimimum to eliminate switch bounce.
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> I have successfully multiplexed 128 LEDs over the I2C bus on the Pi using 3 mcp23017's though on I2C.
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi supports the mcp23017 but only in pin at a time mode.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> only use the ls674 if the console will talk to it in the same way as the 4021's.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> otherwise use 2 x 4021's.
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> note tha the 23017 will be powered from the 5v controller side, but that's OK over the I2C bus as the Pi is the master and driving it at 3.3v.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> ok - saves a chip if works.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> you can crank the I2C bus speed up to 800Khz too - the 23017's will go to 1.5Mhz, but I've never been able to get a Pi stable at that speed - the signals are very yukky.
[14:26] <Sonny_Jim> So what's 60Hz in ms?
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> if you use register mode on the 23017's it'll fly. even pin mode (via wiringPi) would be fast enough I think.
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> yea - that's when wiring it in parallel with a controller might be an advantage, but needs more chips, opto isolators, etc.
[14:56] <nicoulaj> Should I just clone it in /home/osmc/.kodi/addons ?
[15:10] <Furtt> Hi guys ! I m trying to connect to my raspberry pi with my pc, directly via an ethernet cable. And I set up a static ip address on my pi, but i can t connect to it. Any idea how to do it or what could possibly be wrong?
[15:11] <mlelstv> the PC has a static address too?
[15:11] <mlelstv> is that a cross cable ?
[15:12] <mlelstv> usually you cannot just connect two computers via Ethernet cable. You need a Hub or Switch in between.
[15:13] <mlelstv> only if both sides support it, they can autodetect and work with a straight cable. For Gigabit Ethernet that's standard, but for 100Mbit it is not.
[15:14] <Furtt> what the difference between a crossed cable and a normal ethernet cable?
[15:14] <mlelstv> that's what it says, the wires are crossed.
[15:15] <mlelstv> saying this, the RPI does this autodetection (called MDI-X), but your PC may not.
[15:15] <pksato> most ethernet nic auto sense cable, not need to be cross.
[15:16] <mlelstv> pksato, in my experience, only 1Gbit interfaces do. I've seen very few 100Mbit interfaces supporting MDI-X.
[15:17] <pksato> Furtt: link led are lit on both devices?
[16:06] <t3chguy> Polymorphism: maybe ask the Author of the Library xP?
[16:09] <Polymorphism> do you know a lot about them?
[16:10] <t3chguy> ah, no need to communicate to each other?
[16:11] <t3chguy> that way, lets say X is your "Master", 1-6 are your "Nodes"
[16:13] <Polymorphism> but I could do the 1-6 without mesh?
[16:22] <Polymorphism> I mean, does the irq signal come from another radio?
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> what moduls are you using on the Pi ?
[16:33] <gordonDrogon> I'm ok, thanks.
[16:50] <t3chguy> Polymorphism: any progress?
[17:00] <ThePendulum> I take it overclocking the Pi in Turbo mode is considered fairly safe?
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> might get a few to have a play.
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> I'd make a custom board with an 8Mhz ATmega on-board anyway, so I can use a decent 3.3v regulator.
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> 6 for a tenner on amazon.
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> t3chguy, learning curve.
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> BASICs my favourite.
[17:07] <Chillum> it took 20 years to unlearn the bad habits!
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> lucky you - I didn't find out about it until I was 14 or 15.
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> Chillum, bad teachers teach bad habits. good teachers teach good ones.
[17:08] <Chillum> and is a terrible language!
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> Chillum, anyway, I like my basic. I'l sticking with it.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> I did see some terribly python yesterday though. just goes to show you can write FORTRAN in any language.
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> that may be so, but it's out there and there are millions more projects still being developed in it.
[17:11] <mlelstv> vb.net has the advantage that every windows has it.
[17:12] <Chillum> just like explorer!
[17:12] <mlelstv> miles ahead of using command or even powershell.
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> Oh I don't care - I just enjoy myself.
[17:15] <GreeningGalaxy> doesn't 'toy language' just mean not Turing-complete?
[17:17] <mlelstv> you rarely use lesser languages. But sometimes you do, to be able to proof their correctness.
[17:17] <GreeningGalaxy> then again, wiki page on that is totally uncited.
[17:17] <mlelstv> I've seen such things for real-time systems.
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> I did look at writing a run-time for my basic to run on an atmega - essentially take a procedure/function in your main program and auto down-load it into an atmega at program run-time.
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> the old 8K basics were tough on 8-bit micros. I didn't have the energy to complete the atmega run-time part of it iall.
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> I develop directly on Pi(s).
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> My stuff is mostly pure C compiling though - that's fast enough.
[17:22] <mlelstv> when I was young you had 8bit micros. In that time a pi would have been the worlds fastest supercomputer.
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi is getting bigger though - it now takes a few seconds more than it did.
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> fwiw: I'm 53.
[17:24] <mlelstv> my first book on programming described Fortran IV. The second described Dartmouth Basic.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> there simply wasn't access to computers when I was 7. I did get to see Neil Armstrong walk on the moon though - live.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> that was a cool time to grow up in.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, yea.. thinks that make a big impression if nothing else.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> and Tim Peake is making a big impression (hopefully!) on a lot of school kids today.
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> an speaking of baking, I need to go & buy some carrots - it's Gluten free cakes tonight. Did you know it was national carrot cake day last wednesday?
[17:49] <Valduare> you driving some led strip with your pi?
[17:49] <t3chguy> ali1234: any progress with your cluster?
[18:00] <GreeningGalaxy> erf. why is the microSD slot on the pi2 clicky? it keeps getting me and making me accidentally eject the card when the pi is running.
[18:27] * gordonDrogon unwraps a new Pi2 ..
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> it definately latches and won't pull out.
[18:30] <GreeningGalaxy> mine definitely doesn't.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> the zero doesn't have a clicky thing.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> yes - I think you've broken them.
[18:33] <mgottschlag> also, 50% of the clicky ones won't release the card either even if operated correctly.
[18:33] <ali1234> by "test on" you mean "break" right?
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, you may not need any swap... depends what you do.
[18:35] <t3chguy> ali1234: are they literally that easy to break?
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> there's definately a latch mechnism on mine. I can see the little arm moving.
[18:36] <MiningInc> NOTE*** there is a little ()hack() for fixing the broken SD slot arm, on pi.
[18:36] <t3chguy> oh so now the latch is in the wrong state ?
[18:38] <MiningInc> I'm trying to setup a Vanilla coin wallet, on my pi.
[18:39] <MiningInc> hence the question on swapsize.. I am just not wanting to get midway into download/install and run out of swap/memory/etc.
[18:40] <ThePendulum> was the Pi Zero even more powerful than the Pi 2, or is the Pi 2 still the one to grab in terms of performance?
[18:40] <MiningInc> pi 2 is surprisingly zippy ;-) loving it.
[18:43] <MiningInc> Any suggestions are appreciated... Thoughts on Kali? Kali + pi.?
[18:43] <GreeningGalaxy> isn't Kali just Debian with hacksy tools?
[18:44] <MiningInc> GreeningGalaxy, IDK.. I am fairly fresh, far as getting back into linux. Guidance would be a plus.
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, RISC OS has been about for a very long time - it has a small but enthusiastic following. I've not used it for ~20 years.
[18:46] <MiningInc> so maybe jumping the gun a bit.... I am trying to re-familiarize self with command line basics, I.E. BASH/shell refresher + Terminal warmup.
[18:47] <MiningInc> was just looking @ pitft... I have no fun stuff YET for physical computing. So for now keep on diggin on the software side. which is plentiful. Problem is knowing where to start...! What to do, what to do.
[18:49] <MiningInc> Thanks for the input... Needed a bit of a reality check.. NOT rainman. sooo going to go try and find something fun to download and play with..
[18:49] <MiningInc> Suggestions on goodies for Raspbian?
[18:50] <MiningInc> Keep in mind. I am also learning python(3) at moment. Still pretty green with that as well BUT am working towards a trade bot.. Probably start with a twitter bot or something first.
[18:51] <MiningInc> the default window manager is X window manger, right?
[18:51] <MiningInc> Ok. Thanks. Makes sense.
[18:52] <GreeningGalaxy> well, you'll have a command line.
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> well.. text consoles.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> you can do graphics in the consoles without invoking X.
[18:53] <GreeningGalaxy> window managers come in two main varieties, stacking and tiling. stacking ones are like Windows or Mac, they involve windows you can drag around and are the most common. Tiling window managers divide up the screen and don't let windows overlap.
[18:53] <MiningInc> thanks, openbox is it! I have done fairly extensive 'reading/tutorial-ing' on debian/raspbian beginner "what to do/ what to know"
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> openbox? not lxde then?
[18:55] <MiningInc> right, quick question on that... If I have setup to launch to CLI, not GUI..and launch GUI via startx, does this create multiple 'instances/processes' overlapping?
[18:56] <GreeningGalaxy> if you quit X, you'll drop back to it.
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> ah, just got openbox - I don't use lxde, so never realised how it integrated.
[18:58] <MiningInc> so, are the terminals I can access via F2-F6 something that if switched to, then say closed it/exit/quit...would it crash the PI?
[18:58] <MiningInc> and IF I were to ever say 'lockup/freeze' pi . What would a poweroff w/o prompt do?
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> h4x3, sothe answer to your question is: Yes, it's possible.
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, you unplug the power - it's turned off.
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, Linux likes to be shut down nicely but most of the time you'll get away with pulling the plug. most of the time.
[18:59] <h4x3> ok again: is it possible to install teamviewer on my ubuntu mate pi2b cost-free?
[18:59] <GreeningGalaxy> generally only so if you're in the middle of a write when it happens.
[19:00] <GreeningGalaxy> which it can be hard to tell, so it's good not to.
[19:00] <GreeningGalaxy> ext4 journaling will probably save you in most instances, but it only takes one failure to kill a card.
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, basically almost all the debian docs will apply to Pi with raspbian.
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> I'm also a baker and I have 4 cakes to make. back later!
[19:02] <MiningInc> gordonDrogon me too!
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> no - gluten free french almond cakes x2 and 2 GF carrot cakes - for my local cafes this week.
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, essentially Raspbian *is* debian - just customised for the Pi.
[19:04] * MiningInc is off to play with some of the new found knowledge now possessed, thanks to gordonDrogon, GreeningGalaxy, and Valduare.
[19:04] <GreeningGalaxy> MiningInc� vim is a text editor with a very steep learning curve. You can probably find guides online, but you also might want to use nano or something else in the meantime.
[19:06] <MiningInc> VIM scared me... was my first 'Rut row!' few nights ago I somehow opened/entered VIM somehow accidentally, while playing on command line... DId not realize VIM was where/what I was in/doing... Had the pi freeze/calculating for hours and couldn't get back to the prompt.
[19:06] <MiningInc> finally was able to after numerous CTRL-Z or was it C.. prolly C.
[19:09] <MiningInc> and please please please...can someone help me to understand why when I try to change HISTCONTROL='erasedups' it does not work.
[19:10] <MiningInc> I would love for my history to be a bit cleaner. The multiples of a single command..drive me batty.
[19:11] <tohipfortheroom> getting different benchmark scores on a various number of distros with geekbench for arm is that normal?
[19:20] <GreeningGalaxy> tohipfortheroom� uh, 1) how different? 2) maybe, would that not have some ependency on the kernel?
[19:21] <GreeningGalaxy> Valduare� I've heard good things about vim, but I can't be bothered to put in the necessary time to learn it.
[19:22] <GreeningGalaxy> what's the standard deviation like for successive tests of the same thing?
[19:28] <jrcharney> GreeningGalaxy: That would be something wouldn't it? But no. It's all electronic.
[19:30] <Berg> if you forget to wind it?
[19:30] <jrcharney> GreeningGalaxy: You would need to convert the mechanical energy to electricity, still need something to store that electrical energy, and it would still be a bit pointless.
[19:30] <Berg> get a stpper motor?
[19:32] <jrcharney> At any rate, it looks like theres a lot of stuff to upgrade on raspberry pi this morning. libcurl, libssh, perl, etc.
[19:33] <jrcharney> Did someone find a huge security flaw?
[19:33] <Hitechcg> Does anyone know the difference between the original Raspberry Pi Model B hardware revisions 2.0 and 2.1? All I can find is the difference between rev 1.0 and 2.0.
[19:38] <tohipfortheroom> best benchmarking tool for the pi?
[19:40] <jrcharney> Really...I'll have to look into this.
[19:41] <Valduare> someone planning on licking their pi?
[19:45] <aem> what else can i do?
[19:46] <exonormal> are you sure it is defective?
[19:47] <exonormal> what does it do?
[19:47] <exonormal> will it boot?
[19:47] <exonormal> ok do you have a PC?
[19:48] <exonormal> or a laptop?
[19:48] <jrcharney> After much though and realizing how setting up my RetroPie with a Raspberry Pi 2 made so much more sense (especially with some of the power requirements some of the games and apps had), I kinda gae up on using a Pi Zero.
[19:50] <jrcharney> I would have gladly paid another $10 if the 7 inch touch display had audio speakers on it.
[19:50] <exonormal> how are you powering the pi zero?
[19:55] <exonormal> yeah... did the pi boot?
[19:55] <mgottschlag> aem: do you have any microsd cad plugged in?
[19:55] <mgottschlag> I mean, during that test?
[19:56] <mgottschlag> and I guess you only get that device manager entry when no micro sd card is inserted?
[19:56] <mgottschlag> do you see anything on HDMI when the OS boots?
[19:57] <mgottschlag> oh, btw, aem, what OS did you install? did you install something for the "old" pi?
[19:58] <mgottschlag> do you see any usb-related lines on the screen?
[20:01] <aem> boot the rpi on pc?
[20:03] <mgottschlag> aem: hm, are there any "dwc" lines in the boot log?
[20:08] <exonormal> so you don't have a linux PC?
[20:13] <exonormal> and, as always, use a POWERED USB hub!!!!!
[20:15] <aem> mgottschlag why for wireless?
[20:29] <Hitechcg> Has anyone actually tested the power output of Pi power supplies?
[20:30] <SpeedEvil> mgottschlag: as a random point, I would be astounded if that actually worked.
[20:49] <Valduare> can I salvage those from an old atx power supply?
[20:50] <Valduare> what is the diff between a mosfet and transistor?
[20:52] <Valduare> mosfets can run more current or somthing through them than a transistor?
[21:03] <Valduare> by mainboard do you mean motherboard?
[21:03] <ThePendulum> what are mosfets used for with LED strips? similar to level shifters?
[21:04] <ThePendulum> are level shitters just a bunch of mosfets in an ic?
[21:07] <jrcharney> Anyone know how to wire stereo speakers to GPIO? I have White, Blue, Red, and Black wires. White and Blue are likely the left speaker. Red and Black are likely the right speaker.
[21:13] <jrcharney> There's this, but it take up all the GPIs and I don't want to use RCA plugs.
[21:28] <Luyin> hi guys, I've put this in the /etc/network/interfaces of our rpi: https://bpaste.net/show/1ec22c62d1bd , but now I saw that the router has given it the IP 0.20. so what did I do wrong, or is there something else I have to change?
[21:30] <Luyin> PhotoJim: on the rpi?
[21:52] <mgottschlag> is that all text on the mosfet?
[21:54] <Luyin> hm, no I disabled dhcpcd, rebooted, and it still got 0.20 according to my router's web UI. but, additionally I can't ssh to it: "no route to host"
[21:57] <CoJaBo> A rite of passage.
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> there are some nice logic level mosfets - high powered ones too.
[21:58] <mgottschlag> Valduare: does your LED strip have common ground, or common +12?
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> sockofleas, maybe you made a type?
[22:45] <sockofleas> why is it different than the one in the tut?
[22:48] <Valduare> led and phototransistor?
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> sockofleas, you're going to have to start looking at the error logs to find out more.