Discussion in 'Publishing' started by AgathaChristie, Aug 5, 2018.
first off - I'm new to this forum, so nice to meet you all !
I was just wondering if any non-native English speakers here have successfully managed to find an agent and publish their English-language work of fiction, and if anyone has any advice on this.
Curious to find out if there are other people who are or used to be in this situation !
Just yesterday I found out that one Finn with ALS have written with his eyes (can't move, can't speak) a book.
Google Riku Mattila and try Google Translator to everything you find. If it does not work well, I'll help.
Riku: "I have nothing to complain."
In my understanding he does not have an agent.
Are you mentioning in your letters to agents that you are German, writing in English? If you are, I wouldn't; it's not something they need to know. And if you aren't, then probably you're just running into the same problem native English speakers encounter: it's really hard to get an agent.
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Hi, thanks for your replies !
@BayView - yes, unfortunately I did mention that in every query, in the bio part. Your comment made me reconsider, I think I'll delete this sentence.
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Are you sure your MS meets SPAG standards? Even native speakers have trouble proof-reading their MS so, as a non-native speaker, you should probably have a native speaker read through your stuff.
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About drawing attention to the wrong questions - that's another good point, right !
I'm in a similar situation as you are, for the same reasons. Only difference is, I haven't managed to finish anything novel-length yet so I can't really give input on your question. However, what I can confirm is, if your command of the language is good enough (and I'd assume yours is) people most likely won't notice you're not a native unless you tell them. Even native speakers make mistakes - think about the seid/seit issue, it's so common it is really not an indicator of whether someone is a native or not. So, good luck with your publishing. Ich drücke dir die Daumen.
I live in Germany but write in English.
There is a barrier of assumptions.
If your native language is anything else than English, you are supposed to be well know and sold in your home country. If you are not, "there must be some reason for that”.
German markets are big. Why don't you translate your book to German language and offer it over there?
If you can get it published and if it sells enough, it could be easier to get an agent.
Now you kind of drop between different assumptions and it is not good place to be.
But if he stops telling agents that English isn't his native language, then there's no reason for them to wonder that.
I cannot follow your reasoning here. Why should that be? If they've only ever written in English, why would you assume they'd be published in their native language?
The reason they are not well known and sold in Germany, I assume, is that they've never written anything publishable in German.
The German market may be big but it is no less competitive, so I don't see how trying to get an agent with a translated (and likely inferior) product would increase the odds.
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Hi, welcome. I live in the UK and can confirm it can be very hard to find an agent. Lord knows I tried when I was actively pursuing 'this writing thing'.
The market is simply over-saturated; more so than other European countries (that's been my experience).
By all means keep on trying.
I agree with keeping any query letter short and not giving too much infos.
Even native speakers make mistakes - think about the seid/seit issue, it's so common it is really not an indicator of whether someone is a native or not. So, good luck with your publishing. Ich drücke dir die Daumen.
I cannot follow your reasoning here. Why should that be?
If it looks like some author is overlooking some big markets, it raises questions. And often businessmen don't buy given answers but rely answers of their own.
"I have this car. I don't wan't to sell it anyone I know or anyone that lives around. I want to sell it to someone who lives thousands of kilometers away. I don't want to sell it near even if I get more money. And there is nothing wrong with the car."
"Yeaah... Right. Sorry. I'm busy. I don't have time for THAT."
But as @ChickenFreak pointed out, if they don't mention where they're from, it won't matter.
So you just say "I have this car" and leave the rest of it out.
Your solution is like having a perfectly good car, taking it completely apart, reassembling it into a totally different car, painting it, changing the seats and the upholstery and everything else, and THEN trying to sell it to the people close to you. A lot of work for no good reason.
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Your reasoning doesn't make sense. While it's true that, with a car, you'd question why you'd wanna sell it far away before selling it closer to home, that's just not the case when it comes to books. To start, you're basically asking, "Why would you wanna write in English rather than German?" 'Cause that's what it comes down to. Why don't you sell it in Germany where you are? Well, because the book hasn't been written in German. It's written in English. So why did you write it in English?
The answer? It doesn't matter. What matters is: how good is your English? If it's native level and no one can tell the difference reading it that you're foreign, why would it matter? It doesn't say anything about the writer's writing skill level, and if it does, it can only be a positive. Here's someone who's mastered a second language to native level and written a book in it - it's nothing short of impressive.
Nabokov did just fine publishing in English... While I'm aware we're not all Nabokovs, publishing directly in your second language (as opposed to having something translated) has certainly been done before.
Yeah. You can sell physical object only once.
You need to meet your agent few times? 500km or 7 000 or 9 300 is a big difference - in time, in money, in every way.
But by that point, the agent will have decided to take you on as their client, so the fact that he'll know you're foreign wouldn't matter.
There's also such a thing as Skype... You won't have to travel every time - and it's likely it'll be the author travelling, not the agent, so it's all out of your own pocket anyway. Timezone differences can be tricky but hey, international companies manage to have meetings between America and Europe all the time.
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My agent has sold six books for me, including two to a Big Five publisher. We've never met in person.
And we're not saying the author should never tell her agent where she lives. There's just no need to talk about it in the query letter.
I'm aware of the concept of time differences.
By the way, the time difference between London and Berlin is only -1 hour and it takes less time to fly between these places than it does to drive from Berlin to Munich. This is a weak argument since we're not necessarily talking about publishing in the US.
And even if we are, you realize I don't have to know where you are to communicate with you? Every day business gets done without the involved parties seeing each other in person. It's not such a big obstacle. Face-to-face talks aren't needed if there's shared data to work on.
If it looks like some author is overlooking some big markets, it raises questions.
They're not overlooking big markets. This author writes in English. Germany is not an ideal market for an English-language work.
And often businessmen don't buy given answers but rely answers of their own.
The answer, whether given or researched, is that this author writes in English and therefore an English language market is the logical one to sell it to.
An agent is a busy man. It is possible that he is not interested about how things are if he can do his job by assuming that things are easy only if proven easy.
Barrier of assumptions is before reality and facts. You don't get to the facts if your letter goes to bin before that because of impressions, assumptions, imagination or false belief.
...This author writes in English. Germany is not an ideal market for an English-language work.
...this author writes in English and therefore an English language market is the logical one to sell it to.
Not one of these have anything to do with barrier of assumptions.
I don't have anything more to say to this conversation.
There's no "assumption" to be made if the agent doesn't even know the author isn't a native speaker.
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A submission comes in, online, in English, with a cover letter in English. The cover letter stops mentioning that the author's native language is German.
There's no data for making assumptions.
In case it's not clear: The agent has no reason to assume that the author doesn't live in the US or England. None.