So earlier I was racing with some people I have known for a while now, during the races I was running front to middle of the grid.
Then after accidentally hitting the monitor button I noticed the guy getting the fastest qualifying time was using abs tc and sc. so I checked some other guys and they were all using it.
Should these assist not make the cars slower by cutting the power to the wheels in slow corners like other games I've played, grid, f1 '12-'14 and DClub. Or is this a bug in the game?
They really shouldn't be detrimental to performance if implemented properly. They should be there to help the driver be faster or more consistent, or else nobody would use them in the real life racing series that allows them. Formula 1 allowed it for a few years and everybody used it. If it made them slower, they wouldn't have used it. And even before F1 allowed it, teams tried to find loopholes to implement it. In my opinion, it's more realistic in PCARS where it is a genuine aid to the driver than it is in other games.
It's dependend on how well the TC en SC are implemented in game. If you can brake really good ABS is always slower btw.
But with ABS, you can brake and turn at the same time.
We did extensive testing on this and the OP is right. They are overpowered. We allowed these assists in our lobbies at first because we thought they we're only being used by new players who we're slower anyway and needed the driving aids.
We found out that they can actually be used by good drivers to make them faster. For example I used to race with ABS only as my own choice, I put on SC and TC and knocked almost 2 seconds a lap off my best lap times going faster through corners than i could normally and felt like I was on rails with no risk. Realising this I had a moral decision to make, use it to my advantage or ban it in our lobbies.
Of course I banned it in our lobbies and we now only allow ABS as this doesn't give any major advantages and is definitely an aid to most pad users which helps almost all drivers.
re. the bolded statement, I would caution you against making the mistake of thinking about Project CARS as merely a game (it contains gaming elements, yes, but it's also a sim). In real life, TC and SC can make cars faster -- especially for non-pro drivers. Just read the reviews on the net about Ferrari's Manettino system in the 458 and the 488 and how it allows average drivers to feel like heroes, where the electronics carefully manage the experience.
Not that I am suggesting that you're not a good driver, but odds are that you aren't e.g. Ben Collins or Rene Rast?
Instead of Not allowing them, set it to Real.
Even racing cars have it..
When it is developed properly, Yes, the Aids will make you able to drive faster than you can without them.
Most Consumer level cars, have very low grade levels of these driving aids.
The ABS on some cars are almost more dangerous than Not Having it..
Try going up a Snow covered Hill with a car that has Traction control... You're stuck, you're not going anywhere.
Every time the wheel starts to slip, the Brake gets applied, and the engine power is cut back.
What a Difference.. These are real driving Aids compared the what they pass off in consumer level cars.
and that's what you have in pCars, Performance Level / Racing level driving Aids.
I'm set to 'Real' as that makes most sense to me.
If a car has it in real life, then I'm going to use it and not make things deliberately harder for myself.
Why race in a GT3 car without using ABS and TC when in real life they do actually use them? Isn't it suppose to be a sim trying to be as lifelike as possible?
When a multiplayer lobby has them disabled, I assume that disabled them for me even though I'm set to 'real'?
Im the same way. I want to race with whatever the actual car has in reality. Thats part of what makes it a sim to me.
Yes, if the lobby settings have is disabled, that overrides your REAL settings & turns assists off.