Glad you like them, I think it's one of the best useful mods I have done, notwithstanding the cuts and abrasions from the fitting!
I had the tapaturn relay fitted so the relay was already led friendly so I cut the resistors off, but as you say, the fitting is ready to run out of the box if you don't have led indicators already.
Just ordered a set of these for Obi.
They'll be fitted in time for our European road trip.
I've just fitted these to my car, with a lot of PM help from Ian (Risingsun). The rears are dead easy with a feed from the reversing light. The fronts are a pain - getting a hand or two through the wheel arch and under the bonnet to fit the light units is only the half of it. Connecting the DRL's to the fuse box via a relay for on/off and dim is done by piggyback micro connectors. Mine won't dim down when the headlights are switched on and I'll probably just live with that until MOT time when I will disable the DRLs. Indicators are fine and nicely bright.
Kenwood DMX7017DABS double din head unit and Royal steering wheel.
They are all probably sourced from the same place, but I'm using these. You'll also need a DRL relay harness to control them. I went for a simple switch-off arrangement using something similar to this. Power comes from the yellow/black wire to the side of the fuse box and I've got them set-up to switch off when the headlights are on; piggyback fuse to one of the low beam headlight fuses. This leaves the option of having the rear side lights on.
Good news is that it passed the MoT without even a mention of the DRL and switchback set-up.
Mac5 had links in his last post, follow those for ease of finding what you want. I used a cheaper Chinese auto-switch but you have to wait 20 days for it to arrive, so probably easier to get a UK sourced one. They really are easy to fit, just a bit awkward to get to (as you know). Also get a micro fuse doubler at the same time. TIP : The new LED bulbs have a rubber fitting that pushes into the hole for the indicators and are a friction fit - so wet the rubber (magic spit) when fitting and they will pop in a lot easier.
That's awesome Jeff thank you 😊 really helped me out.
All new cars have LED lighting so personally I cannot see it is a problem.
New cars are fitted with units so if they fail the whole unit would be replaced not the bulbs meaning new cars are legal in the uk through european regulations.
Basically, LEDs on new cars go against everything in our UK law but we (the uk) make them legal as its easier.
LED Bulb changes and modifications are not legal in the UK.
Edit : without wanting to go i think they should be banned on bicycles as they seem dangerously bright to me.
This is pretty much what I'd discovered. New vehicles are approved under Full Vehicle Type Approval by way of EU legislation that we adopt under our EU obligations, but our own (older, original) legislation effectively prevents LED replacement bulbs. Interestingly, the EU legislation basically stems from United Nations efforts (yes, really!) to harmonise international regulations relating to vehicles, and there are significant efforts going on there to try to bring in LED "replacement light sources". I struggled with reading the legalese, but I think they're heading toward a position where the light housing will be certified (by the manufacturer), and then certified LED "bulbs" will be legal within them. So almost certainly doesn't help us with existing cars, but will solve the problem for future cars.
Overly bright, frequently flashing, and often pointed directly at on-coming traffic. As if blinding on-coming traffic is going to make them safer ... very annoying.
Insurance : Most insurers will accept non-performance modifications without comment or cost - Admiral accepted all of my mods to my Mk1 without comment and even gave agreed value, fully comp for under £100. I read (somewhere) that up to 5 mods could be accommodated without negative consequences. Phone them and tell them you are going to replace your indicators with LED bulbs and see what they say!
Not sure I'm going to worry about talking to the insurance company's about a non-performance mod that makes both our cars more visible to other road users.