SOCRATES: He will argue that there is no use in putting a solemn face on these matters, or in going round and round, until you arrive at first principles; for, as I said at first, when the question is of justice and good, or is a question in which men are concerned who are just and good, either by nature or habit, he who would be a skilful rhetorician has no need of truth-for that in courts of law men literally care nothing about truth, but only about conviction:
-Benetan gauza horiek ez direla horrela goretsi behar diote, ezta oso gora igo ere itzulinguru luzea eginez, hizlari gaitua izateko asmoa duenak ez baitu benetan egiarekin inolako zerikusirik eduki behar, ez bidezko gauza edo onei dagokienez, ezta izaeraz edo heziketaz horrelakoak eta halakoak diren gizakiei buruz ere, hitzaldi honen hasieran esan dugun bezala.