These are those who do not think there are Ideas, either without qualification or as identified with certain numbers, but think the objects of mathematics exist and the numbers are the first of existing things, and the 1-itself is the starting-point of them.
Aipatu ditudan hauek ez dituzte Ideiak onartzen, ez absolutuki, ez zenbaki moduan, baina, bestalde, Errealitate Matematikoak badirela uste dute, eta zenbakiak errealitate lehenak direla, eta hauen printzipioa Bata Bera dela.