For if a man is defeated by violent and excessive pleasures or pains, there is nothing wonderful in that; indeed we are ready to pardon him if he has resisted, as Theodectes' Philoctetes does when bitten by the snake, or Carcinus' Cercyon in the Alope, and as people who try to restrain their laughter burst out into a guffaw, as happened to Xenophantus.
Izan ere, ez da harrigarria baten bat izugarrizko eta neurriz gaineko plazerek eta atsekabeek garaitua bada; aitzitik, barkagarria da aurre egiten badie, Teodektesen Filoktetes-ek bezala, sugegorriak kosk egin ondoren, (10) edo Karkinoren Kerkionek Alope-n, edo barreari eusten ahaleginduta barrez lehertzen direnak, Xenofantori gertatu bezala.