but in that they construct natural bodies out of numbers, things that have lightness and weight out of things that have not weight or lightness, they seem to speak of another heaven and other bodies, not of the sensible.
baina beste kontu bat da gorputz fisikoak zenbakietatik sortaraztea-hots, ez pisurik ez arintasunik ez duenetik, pisua eta arintasuna duena-;