Now and then, however, in the heat of the debate, she would let a word or a phrase escape her and "clench the matter" even for Charvet himself, as Gavard said.
Bakarrik eztabaidak gorri-gorri zeudenean jaulkitzen zuen esaldiren bat, eta kito afera; hizketan Charvet ari bazen ere, "iltzeari azken kolpea ematen zion", Gavarden esamoldearekin esanda.