For, when we argue about MATTER, or any the like term, we truly argue only about the idea we express by that sound, whether that precise idea agree to anything really existing in nature or no.
Zeren materiaz, edo antzeko hitzez, arrazoitzen dugunean, ez dugu arrazoitzen soinu horren bidez adierazten dugun ideiaz baino, ideia hau naturan egiazki existitzen den gauza batekin ados etorri ala ez.