But those of the sophists who profess the art seem to be very far from teaching it. For, to put the matter generally, they do not even know what kind of thing it is nor what kinds of things it is about;
izan ere, jakingo balute, ez lukete esango politika eta erretorika gauza bera direnik, ezta politika erretorika baino gutxiago denik ere, (15) eta ez lukete pentsatuko legeak egitea erraza denik bikaintzat harturiko legeak bilduz.