This is, too, why they say the pains inflicted should be those that are most opposed to the pleasures such men love. However that may be, if (as we have said) the man who is to be good must be well trained and habituated, and go on to spend his time in worthy occupations and neither willingly nor unwillingly do bad actions, and if this can be brought about if men live in accordance with a sort of reason and right order, provided this has force,-if this be so, the paternal command indeed has not the required force or compulsive power (nor in general has the command of one man, unless he be a king or something similar), but the law has compulsive power, while it is at the same time a rule proceeding from a sort of practical wisdom and reason.
Beraz, esana den bezala, ona izan behar den gizakia (15) ederki hezia eta ohituta izan behar bada, eta horrela bizi usadio zintzoetan, eta ziztrina dena ez egin, ez nahi gabe ez nahita, hori guztia lortuko dute adimen jakin baten eta indarra duen ordena zuzenaren arabera bizi direnek;