In the winter of 1935, he met Swami Nityananda Maharaj, who stayed and lectured in a big house - gatherings many adults attended. For a boy to mix with adults following monks was not encouraged. It was believed that young lads couldn't understand the spiritual subjects, however, from the Brahmachari perspective Older people simply became a hindrance for youngsters. Since lectures of Swami Nithyanandaji's were in English, he could not understand the content, yet he was keen to observe the ascetic form of the Swami, wearing a tiger skin and using a trident stuff, a follower of the Shiva order, and a pilgrim on his way to the mount Kailash. That experience brought in him questions and confusion about God, he believed God could create and control everything.