the initial statement was made for an english bill of rights at house of commons.
where was the initial statement made for an english bill of rights?
house of commons
the catholic relief bill duly passed, but the tory ultras (those – such as sadler – irreconcilably opposed to catholic relief) withdrew their support from the wellington administration, which then fell. their whig opponents came to power, committed to parliamentary reform ( sweeping away many of the 'rotten boroughs', creating new borough constituencies for unrepresented towns like manchester and leeds, and equalising the franchise). the 'reform bill' introduced in 1831 in fact consisted of separate bills for england, for scotland, and for ireland. the english bill went first; it passed its second reading, but upon it entering committee stage, the first amendment to the bill (a wrecking one, deploring the reduction in the number of english mps, seconded by sadler("mr sadler, in seconding the amendment, inflicted upon the house a most discursive speech of three closely printed columns, amid general yawning and coughing") was carried by a majority of 8. the government then withdrew the bill and called a general election. sadler (having been burnt in effigy at newark) was now returned for aldborough; the whigs retained power and introduced a revised reform bill, which eventually passed the house of commons. sadler voted against the reform bill; he spoke at committee stage when boroughs in schedule b (those formerly returning two mps, but now to return one: aldborough was to be one of these, but with revised boundaries, and hence no longer in the pocket of the duke of newcastle) were under consideration his main contribution was to (like a few radicals such as henry hunt) deplore the introduction of a uniform qualification for the vote sweeping away much wider "scot & lot" franchises in the few boroughs where they existed. otherwise he spoke rarely on the reform bill; during its passage through the commons he made more speeches on irish poverty and irish poor laws. the debate he initiated on irish poor laws (29 august 1831) was held on the next sitting day after sir robert peel had supported ministers by appealing to members to "avoid every other business which should interfere with the progress of the reform bill". in october he moved the first reading of a bill to improve the lot of the (agricultural) labouring poor (by government building respectable cottages with land attached and letting them at an economic rent.)
michael thomas sadler
there is some difference of opinion as to how revolutionary the events of 1688–89 actually were, and several commentators make the point that the provisions of the english bill of rights did not represent new laws, but rather stated existing rights. mark thompson wrote that, apart from determining the succession, the english bill of rights did "little more than set forth certain points of existing laws and simply secured to englishmen the rights of which they were already posessed ." before and after the english bill of rights, the government could always disarm any individual or class of individuals it considered dangerous to the peace of the realm. in 1765, william blackstone wrote the "commentaries on the laws of england" describing the right to have arms in england during the 18th century as a subordinate auxiliary right of the subject that was "also declared" in the english bill of rights.
second amendment to the united states constitution