 Too far East to be Harlingen or Rio Hondo and too soon to be Brownsville or Los Fresnos so, the aviation industry named the arroyo fishing camps ( about two and a half miles East to West fishing lights).In the 1930s to early 1960s it was no less than 7.5 miles to get there from the pavement through a single farm road of two tire tracks to get there in dry weather.Rain caused you to stay two or three days after it stopped.