 Pylons wanted to stay focused on low level, extensible design while TurboGears was focused on offering a complete, user-friendly package, and so the two work together much in the same way Debian and Ubuntu do now.The new 2.x branch had its first stable release in May 2009.As of Fall 2008, TurboGears has a large and healthy community with over 3000 users on the TurboGears mailing list, a book from Prentice Hall published in Nov. '06, and a number of open-source and proprietary TurboGears applications deployed to the real world.