 Samah talks about the history of the world before the Sundering, tries to justify the Sartans actions in performing the Sundering, and accuses the Patryns of interfering in mensch affairs behind the scenes, even though, as Alfred points out, the Sartan also got involved in mensch affairs.Alfred accuses the Sartan Council of carrying out the Sundering because they were afraid of the possibility that they might not be gods, that there might be a higher power.He is astonished when Samah doesn't react with anger but instead is polite, and leaves him alone with Orla.