 The move did not work out for either club or player however, as he suffered with insomnia, and returned to Brazil on numerous loan spells.In January 2008 he was loaned out to São Paulo but he was excluded from the squad for disciplinary reasons in April 2008 three months before his contract ended.In May 2008, he signed another loan contract with Botafogo until June 2009 but on 12 November 2008, he left the club because of outstanding salary payments.