 His brother, Dennis, briefly joined on keyboards and in May 1979 they issued the single, "Just the Way It Goes".Dennis had left, Robbie Geapon replaced Cuddihy on bass guitar and Bob Bickerton (ex- Mándu Band) replaced Hackett on drums to record an album, "Live" on Polydor Records, for New Zealand release only, in 1979.The Matt Taylor Phil Manning Band was formed in Perth in late 1980 with his former Chain bandmate.