up to 2016 held to orthodox Mennonite beliefs, strictly Plain dress and forbade cars and modern farm machinery. Shunning was practiced in a stricter way than among other Old Order Mennonite groups. In 2016 the main Pike Mennonite group, the Stauffer Old Order Mennonite group (as named in an 2020 May article), had a split culminating over the issue of insurance. Bishop Arthur Martin of Snyder County was the leading person who helped deepen the split among the membership, after being expelled and then reinstalled by a supporting Missouri bishop. He was not willing and to deny the cup of wine (Communion)for (expelled) members who still had a certain insurance and many others supported him. Other issues certainly played a role too, especially preaching in the English language, which the group under Arthur Martin introduced into their church services. In Snyder County, the new group calls itself "Riverview Old Order Mennonite Church, Snyder County Conference" under Arthur Martin´s leadership and possibly holds up to 40 % of the former Stauffer Mennonite membership. It went, like all newly formed groups, through a process of consolidation and finding and lost families to more liberal churches, who allow cars, but some also returned to the mother group. In Illinois its branch at Vandalia joined the new formed Midwest Old Order Mennonite Conference (a Wenger Mennonite split-off from 2018). In Snyder County it still tries to join, but the fundamental differing point is its youth behavior (the non-acceptance of specially wild behavior of young Pikers before being baptised by the Wenger split off). There is a traditional view of looking away of youth behavior and accepting their wild attitudes before conversion, which the Groffdale Conference and its split off sees unfitting for Christian parents. Groffdale youth is rather defined as tame in comparison to Stauffer Mennonite youth. Their liberal trends show itself also in their way to preach some or even half English and sing English songs during worship, which would separate them rather from other conservative minded groups and sounds rather of leaving the Old Order Pike Mennonite path at all. Even the car itself, now forbidden, is in question, as there is tendency to get away with rulings and move forward to Fellowship churches or Conservative Mennonites. In Lancaster County this split had surprisingly hardly any or even no followers, not even the ministry became divided. In Illinois it had an harder