late 1996, Moyal was shuffling his time between North Miami-based Bird of Ill Omen, Davie-based As Friends Rust, and Gainesville-based Culture. Bird of Ill Omen's membership was revised when former Morning Again bass guitarist Peter Bartsocas (who would also later play in As Friends Rust) replaced Martinez in November 1996, and the band recruited second vocalist, Rob Ogman. In March 1997, Simmons was kicked out of Bird of Ill Omen, after he was asked to join Morning Again as their new guitarist. The band quickly recruited Andrew Logan, who had played in Crestfallen. Moyal was displeased about Simmons' firing, as it had been done without his knowledge while he was out of town with Culture, which lead to his quitting the band. By this time, the band had written half a dozen songs with Moyal for a planned full-length debut. The band's new vocalist, William Shane Post, used Moyal's original lyrics for three of the six songs on Bird of Ill Omen's debut album, Self, Dare You Still Breathe?. The album was released on compact disc in February 1998 by Eulogy Recordings, on 12-inch vinyl in July 1998 by Think Tank Records, and on compact cassette in October 2021 by Contraband Goods. The band also used the band logos which Moyal had designed on most of their releases and merchandise. As Friends Rust (1996–1997, 1997–2002, 2008–present) In September 1996, while still a member of Bird of Ill Omen and having recently rejoined Culture, Moyal teamed up with guitarist Henry Olmino, bass guitarist Jeronimo Gomez and drummer Matthew Crum to form the Davie, Florida-based melodic hardcore band As Friends Rust. The band was named after lyrics from the song "Now Ruin Is", penned by Moyal in 1995, originally planned as a Shai Hulud song, but ultimately used as a Bird of Ill Omen song. As Friends Rust recorded six songs at Wisner Productions in November 1996 with producer James Paul Wisner, using three of them on a well-circulated demo tape. By the spring of 1997, this incarnation of As Friends Rust had fallen apart as Moyal dedicated more time to Culture and Bird of Ill Omen; Olmino, Gomez and Crum opted to continue playing together in the bands Red Letter Day, and later, The Rocking Horse Winner and The Darling Fire, while Gomez also played with Poison the Well. Moyal reformed the band after moving to Gainesville, Florida, with then-members of