Lord Shiva, her son Karthikeya protected her. In the mundane world, Seshadri Swamigal, verily born of Sri Parasakthi's blessings, guarded over Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, who was considered a manifestation of Lord Kumara, reversing the roles. Many devotees of one or the other saint have testified in numerous publications that both have verily said that they are the same, on many occasions, such as in the case of Lakshmi Ammal, a devotee of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi. Seshadri Swamigal, who met her on her way to Bhagavan, responded to her thought, assuaging her in response to her silent prayer, "What's the difference, where you serve, here(Him) or there(Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi)?" Similarly, a devotee of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi who took to narcotic substances in pursuit of spirituality, much against Bhagavan's advice, sought refuge with Seshadri Swamigal, who said: "Well, I told you before itself, to avoid it." This comment, to avoid narcotic substances, was made by Bhagavan to the devotee, yet Seshadri Swamigal could respond likewise. Many people have witnessed conversations and lunches that both Gnanis would share. One Vasudeva Sastri states that, on one occasion, Sri Seshadri Swamigal, after intently observing Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, asked of Bhagavan, "What is THIS thinking?", later saying, "Paying Obeisance to Arunachala will result in salvation". This led to Bhagavan breaking his Mouna(silence), and replied, "Who is the one paying Obeisance? To whom is the Obeisance being paid?". Subsequently, Bhagavan gave an eloquent one-hour exposition on Advaita, to which Seshadri Swamigal said that he believes in Bhakti alone, went down, prostrated to Arunachala and left. Contrary to the above comment about faith in Bhakti, Swamigal was always in the non-dual state, as evinced in an incident wherein, while walking along the Agraharam in Tiruvannamalali, he stopped a passerby to ask him while pointing to a tethered buffalo, as to what the passerby sees. The passerby said he saw a buffalo, to which Swamigal corrected him, saying, "This is Brahman" (The Oneness of existence), thereby proving that Swamigal just communicated the same principle of Advaita albeit in a slightly different manner from Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi. Yet another piece of evidence that both were the same was through the experience of Natesa Mudaliar, who wanted to be graced by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi but was unable to get the grace of the Guru until he met Sri Seshadri Swamigal, who drove him away,