hanging around in the same territory as Ministry, but we were just crossing paths". These kinds of sentiments would, however, not last for long. Goettel revealed in 1991 that he had changed his position concerning Rabies, stating that while some of the material present on the album was "great", the completed product was "less within the Skinny Puppy vision". Goettel even went on to criticize the album's cover art and made mention of how the group had begun to receive fan mail inquiring as to whether Skinny Puppy was becoming a "hardcore" group. cEvin Key (drums/keyboards) claimed that he had been dubious about the album's production from the start. Key claimed that he had been "pissed off" with regards to singer/songwriter Nivek Ogre's apparent partiality for Ministry over Skinny Puppy, but stated that he acknowledged why Ogre had made this choice (it being a change of pace for Ogre). Of all the troubles with Rabies, Key was most displeased with Al Jourgensen's role in the recording process, claiming that he believed Jourgensen's intention during production was to try and break up the band. Ogre himself was unhappy with Rabies, declaring that he felt he had "flopped" during its production. Ogre went on to proclaim the following concerning his experience: "I was really unsure of myself and unsure of what I wanted to say and do. The work and artistic environment really weren't there at all either. It was completely negative". Following the completion of Rabies, the three band members began to explore various side projects. Ogre went on tour with Ministry, having been credited as a songwriter on two songs from The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste and having introduced Jourgensen to Angela Lukacin, who was sampled on "Dream Song". On the tour, he was playing keyboard and providing vocals (Ogre can be seen and heard on the In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up video and CD). Ogre also provided vocals for the Revolting Cocks (a Ministry side project) album Beers, Steers, and Queers. Key and Goettel pursued a number of different projects during this time. The first of which was Hilt, a collaboration with Don Harrison of the Sons of Freedom and vocalist Al Nelson. Dave "Rave" Ogilvie was also a part of the project. Doubting Thomas was the second Key and Goettel project, featuring primarily instrumental compositions. The third and final project was titled