1953 with Gerald Bartell managing it. One of the main programs on it was the culinary show What's Cookin, hosted by pioneering African American chef Carson Gulley and his wife Beatrice. They became among the first black hosts of a television show anywhere in the United States, and despite receiving hate mail on the subject, Bartell did not back down from having them as hosts and the show ran for the next nine years. This was followed by WOKY-TV Channel 19 in Milwaukee in October 1953. It was bought by CBS the following year. The Bartell Group also became involved in the creation of Telecuraçao and Telearuba, television stations in the Caribbean islands of Curaçao and Aruba, with the former starting in 1960 and the latter in 1963. The government of the Netherlands Antilles joined with the Bartell Group to form the Netherlands Antilles Television & Electronic Company. Each station was on the air for about eight hours per day. The full list of family television stations thus included: WMTV-TV Channel 33 in Madison, Wisconsin in 1953; now on Channel 15 and owned by Gray Television WOKY-TV Channel 19 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1953, sold in 1954 Telecuraçao, begun 1960 Telearuba, begun 1963 Gerald Bartell also appeared on air on these television stations, including one amusing episode in July 1961 when he interviewed Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, who a few months earlier had become the first human to travel in outer space when he orbited the Earth. Gugarin was in Willemstad in Curaçao when Bartell was able to become the first American press member to get a private interview with the cosmonaut, apparently because Gugarin assumed Bartell was a Curaçao local and not an American. Gugarin told Bartell that he expected to fly to the moon on his next assignment. With this being the height of the Space Race, in which the Soviets were ahead at the time, American interest in the interview was piqued and General Maxwell D. Taylor, a top military advisor to President John F. Kennedy, called Bartell to find out if Gagarin had revealed a moon mission schedule and to find out the interviewer's impressions of the cosmonaut. Gerald Bartell was president of the Bartell Group. In 1956, Broadcasting/Telecasting magazine said that he had "combined a talent for artistry, a perspicacity for business and a decided penchant for perfection into a small empire builder in the