Face cards count as 10 as does the 10 card. A-9 are 5 points, unless the Ace is used high, when it is 15. Jokers count as 15 points. In order to begin scoring all players must lay no less than 30 points for their first score. When any player discards the last card in their hand, the play immediately ends. Each player's score is then figured as follows: The player is credited with the point value of all cards that he has showing on the table. From this figure is subtracted the point value of all cards remaining in his hand. The difference is added or subtracted from their score, as the case may be. If the cards they have shown total 85 points, and the cards left in their hand total 90 points, 5 points are subtracted from their previous net score. If the drawing pile runs out of cards and nobody is able to make a play, then the hand ends and nobody deducts the score from their hand. The first player whose score reaches +500 wins the game. If two or more players reach 500 on the same hand, the one who goes out is the winner. Modified scoring systems These additional or alternate rules have been put in to simplify scoring and speed up games. Point variants for Aces change the game dynamic somewhat as players may be more or less likely to reveal and play them as a part of runs. Aces count 15 no exceptions or variations. Aces are worth 25. Aces played high are worth 15 except in the case where a single player plays a 4-of-a-kind Ace meld, in which case the meld is worth 100 points (25/ea.). Aces can be allowed to "go-around" in order to speed up games; thus allowing a meld of K-A-2. All other cards are worth 5 points. If preferred, all of these scores may be divided by five and the game played to 100. Boathouse rule Some rummy players play that any player must discard on the turn in which they go out. (A completed turn includes a discard in most variations of Rummy 500, and every turn, even the final turn, is not considered complete without a pile discard). This is often considered standard rules for Rummy. For example, if a player held a hand of two 3's and picked up another 3, this