Hirohama, president of the League of Women Voters of California David Pacheco, president of the California branch of the AARP Gary Toebben, president of the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce The themes of the main arguments they make against Proposition 27 (and in favor of Proposition 20) are: Proposition 27, if it succeeds in repealing Proposition 11, will protect the power of political incumbents: "POLITICIANS behind Proposition 27 are very angry that voters took away their power to draw districts to guarantee their reelection when VOTERS passed Proposition 11 and established the independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. That’s why the politicians and special interests will spend millions to pass 27 and ELIMINATE THE CITIZENS COMMISSION, voters from around the state." The opponents of Proposition 27 agree wholeheartedly with the supporters of Proposition 27 that California is rife with many problems. However, Proposition 27 opponents say that these problems should be laid squarely at the feet of the very politicians who are trying to undo the California Citizens Redistricting Commission so that the politicians can be put back in charge of deciding where their legislative district boundaries should be drawn after ten years after the U.S. Census: The California Citizens Redistricting Commission that Prop 27 seeks to eliminate "is completely transparent and includes Democrats, Republicans and independents and must be representative of all Californians." The idea that state legislative incumbents place an excessively high value on being able to control where their legislative district boundaries are drawn every ten years is well-illustrated by a report in the Los Angeles Times that in the redistricting that took place after the 2000 Census, one political consultant was paid over $1,000,000 by allies of incumbent state legislators to draw districts that best protected their ability to win another term. "With Prop. 27, politicians want to return us to the days when legislators hired consultants to draw bizarrely-shaped districts behind closed doors, dividing up cities and communities just to guarantee their reelection." The assertions that Proposition 27 supporters make about how Proposition 27 will save money is a way to "mislead voters with ridiculous claims". Rather, Proposition 27 opponents argue, "Proposition 27 is not about saving money. Politicians want safe districts and will spend every taxpayer and special interest dollar they can to bankroll consultants and draw district lines to protect themselves." The assertion that Proposition 27 supporters make about how, if voters approve Proposition