<prompt> Human: Hi,I have a rough idea on how to negotiate when moving to a different company; however, I have no idea how I would proceed in negotiating the base salary within the same company. I would be moving to a different department within my company but in a higher role. The standard pay increase would be up to 12.537; for the next step up; however, I know in my current position, I was underpaid. When do I begin a salary negotiation? Is it after I received an offer from them? Am I even able to do a salary negotiation since its already preset via HR? From what Ive been hearing from my colleagues is that I should secure the offer first before negotiation.Any tips and advice would be appreciated!  <response>: I recently negotiated a raise and title adjustment within my company, and I took my case to them. I knew what I was hoping to get, so I presented not only my recent accomplishments, but also my future goals with the company along with my demands in terms of new title and compensation. I assumed they would not give me what I asked for, so I stretched what I asked for ... That is, I wanted a 10 raise, so I asked for 15 and some educational reimbursement for some work-related classes. I didnt get the reimbursement, but I did get 12 and the title.My place didnt have much of a formal HR structure, but I would still recommend being proactive and confident. Hearing no is better than not having asked. 