<prompt> Human: As the title says, I am having dinner tomorrow with a friends friends. Its just a social dinner but Ive been warned that the topic of some travel program will come up and we will be encouraged to join. All I know is that you get deals on hotels, flights, and that kind of thing for the price of some membership. And if you sign up more people you get to waive your membership fees.Its that last part about signing up more people that just screams pyramid scheme. I know better than to buy into those but it can be hard to prove that they arent a good deal, especially when talking with people who have bought into it and have experience selling it.Has anyone in rpersonalfinance had any experience with these travel deal clubs? How do they make their money? What does it take for a member to actually benefit from it? I know these people normally have answers for everything but surely there is some solid logic or math that debunks the financial viability of these things?EDIT: So it looks like their particular flavor of MLM is World Ventures. Clearly not something for me but I guess some people make money? Let me play devils advocate and say I think I would be able to sell enough to waive my 50 membership fee. They do offer shitty cooperate discounted vacations, what if thats what I want? They say you get refunded if you can show the same vacation package for cheaper from any other source. Bullshit, right?EDIT2: Ill attend the dinner for the sake of my friend, waste of time or not. Hopefully the hosts arent pushy, but if they are I feel pretty well equipped to defend my conclusion that its not worth it. Thanks for the replies, Im getting back to work. Thanks!Assistant: but Ive been warned that the topic of some travel program will come up and we will be encouraged to join.Skip dinner. Its a waste of your time.Human: I already agreed to get dinner and its my friends cousin so Im committed. It may be wishful thinking but Im hoping its 90 social dinner and 10 sales pitch and not the other way around.  <response>: I already agreed to get dinner and its my friends cousin so Im committed.Find some excuse to skip out on dinner.The fact that the host is your friends cousin and not someone you would personally consider a friend, means youre only there to be sold to. 