<prompt> Human: Previous thread here TL;DR: Im severely underpaid and I have a drastically expanded role at the same company as of a month ago. 2nd annual review was today.The review itself went well today. They spent the first half telling me how great I am, how screwed theyd be without me, how I am basically the most powerful voice in the entire department, etc. Really just giving me all the leverage in the world and teeing up the ball in my favor for pay negotiations. The actual review part could not possibly have gone better.Before the review, I got in touch with someone who had this job in the past. He and I had always had a great relationship so he gave me a full breakdown of how much he was paid and at what point in time. Before he left, he was making roughly 50 more than I am currently making. Granted, this was at a time when the company was in a better financial position but his pay was in line with the current market. He asked that I keep the conversation a secret.Well, they gave me a completely garbage offer - a 9 raise which is so far out of line for my added job responsibilities that quite frankly its insulting. I stated my case, laid out what I thought was fair and explained how I am the most qualified person in the companys history to have this job and I didnt really get anywhere. When I said what level of pay was fair for the work they lied to me and said no one at this company has ever made that much money. I know for a fact what the last guy to do this job made and he was far from the highest paid employee. The one mistake I made was trying to figure out a way to call their bluff without calling anyone a liar and pointed out the lifestyle differences between me and literally everyone else in my department. That was stupid. I said Id be willing to argue my case directly with the companys president and they said well, we cant stop you from talking to him so I set up a meeting for Monday. I have a great relationship with the president, probably better than with my direct supervisors. I wonder sometimes if its because he knows Im a great bargain of an employee but I digress.The last guy made 50 more than me. My goal is a 40 raise. Id settle for 30. The company is down double digit percentage in the past couple years so I dont know how hard I should push here.So basically Im asking for advice for talking to the president here. He doesnt really know what I do but I know he likes me personally and its really my last shot at getting fair pay at this company. I dont want to leave. I like the people I work with and I like what we do. What are the dos and donts on Monday?  <response>: Research what the same position at similar companies gets paid then create a written report complete with hard references of where you got your data. I mean, if they see that youre able to get that information, theyll see that youre probably capable of finding a job with one of those other companies. Im not saying to threaten to leave -- let them speculate that themselves but, dont let them think that because youre loyal they dont have to pay to keep you around. Now, if youre just trying to get more money because your friend was getting more and the current market doesnt actually pay the scale youre seeking, maybe you should take a step back and reevaluate your motives. Best of luck! 