<prompt> Human: My boyfriend and I are looking at renting an apartment in an apartment complex that uses market rates to determine rent prices. Our situation is a little different in that we are considering subletting the unit from the current tenant, but a new 12 month lease would be written for us. The rent for the new lease is about 150month more and at the top of our budget than the current lease due to market rates which seems strange to me since hes looking to move in October when mineBFs leases are up and signed the original lease in June. We live in Denver, so June is a much more popular time to rent than October due to the weather changing...are we being punished for wanting to sign a lease sooner than later?Ive been reading articles about negotiating rent, and while the ideas are good similar units in complexneighborhood, rental history, times of the year to rent, etc. Im thinking that they are more geared towards smallerprivately owned apartment buildings, not national management companies.If anyone has any advice, wed appreciate it!!  <response>: At the big mega complexes that maintain very high occupancy rates they have very little reason to negotiate. Maybe you could get lucky if the manager needs 1 more sale to meet her quota or something. Otherwise you are going to need to present a better rate from a very similar unit. This unit is a tad bigger, just as nice, a little closer to downtown and they have a gym onsite, it is 80 less a month than what you are offering, can you match it? That sort of thing. Just prepared for them to tell you Sorry I cant do anything, all the rates are set by corporate. Which is probably true. All of this market rate pricing is based on years of data and 1000s of units and properties nation wide, the algorithms are designed to maximize revenue for the property owners. Even if you dont sign a lease just this second, someone else will probably walk in later or the next day that will. If the unit sits idle too long, the algorithm will lower the rate a little until someone leases it. 