<prompt> Human: Hi I recently went through 4 interviews for a position I was contacted for via linked in. It is for an anti-money laundering position at a bank. Apparently they need smeone soon. After my 4th interview3 via phone all international interviews and 1 in person their hr manager set up a call with me to discuss an offer. They asked me what my desired salary was and I said itI think I made a mistake by saying it. I am currently a manager level and this position is for an avp level position. I said a salary figure which is a 67 increase on my current salary. She flat out tells me that this is unrealistic. I said then let me know what is the best they can offer and they refused to give me a number. They said I should give them a more realistic figure and come back to them with that. This frustrates me and comes off as rude to me. I feel like they are trying to fool me into accepting a crappy offer. I need your help personal financeMy email to her after our phone convoIt was nice talking to you and xxx earlier. Thank you for giving me this exciting opportunity to work at xxx. I really appreciate it.I believe that compensation is a key factor for people to truly devote themselves to the roles they are carrying out. That being said, you know my ideal figure per our discussion earlier. Please let me know what your firm has in mind and we can work together from there. Looking forward to hearing from you.Please see her reply email belowAs per our call earlier, xxxher boss in.hr would like you to think about a realistic number to us. I suggest you can do this by doing some research in the market on similar roles through chatting with recruitment agencies etc and then come back to us on the number that you think its right.I dont believe the key factor for people to do their roles is money as that will eventually come for someone who likes the job nature and can contribute to it. Have a good weekendI would appreciate ur thots ppl thanksEdit: November 23 3am Philippine timeSorry if I type in abbreviations as I am replying via smart phone and not a computer.- what could be the reason for her not giving me a figure I can work with? Is it possible its because my salary request was too far from hers? Or is she just playing hardball? Should I proceed to negotiate with myself and tell her that I have lowered my own salary expectations?- my request of salary which was 67 increase over my current salary was based on a salary range from my mother. She is a 20 year bank vet and she asked her banking friends what they thought. I do not have any hard evidence other than this informal reaearch myself and my mother did by asking people in banking for salary ranges.Current salary is 115k pesos a month I asked to be increased to 200k pesos. I will do more research this weekend.-my justification for asking for this increase is because I expect the job to be very heavy workload-wise and also there is much more responsibility involved. Also new company adjustment will be stressful. - please let me know how I should proceed with this... given that I want the job but I want to maximize my income.-please all let me know if I came off as rude and how can I fix this and salavage ths job opportunity- I am working purely for money I do not like the work I am doing I find it tedious and boring. I know I made a mistake being honest about the fact thay money is a key factor for me. I want to start a family in the next 3 years so thay is why i am tolerating working a boring job for decent pay. Please let me have your suggestions I am always willing to listen. Assistant: You gave her no reasons that you are worth your ideal salaray other than I work harder when I get paid more?That wouldnt fly anywhere. Come up with a list of reasons you should make that. Include salaries in related fields as she suggested. No one is bullying anyone, you just havent done your due diligence yet.Human: Thanks for the advice but this was a conversation with an hr lady they have no idea about the the technicals of my job I interviewed with 3 people prior to her. One is the global head of this department, one is the regional head asia pacific and one is the country manager. I convinced them I was worth the job so thats why im getting the offer. But thank u for the advice I will come back with some more research thanks. My salary is in pesos its peanuts to anyone abroad 2.8k usd gross per month is my current 32 tax rate. Im asking.for 4.7kusd gross but they said unrealistic. So do u think I came off rude? Also should I give her a lower figure as she suggests when she hasnt even given me a number to work with?  <response>: I wouldnt give her a lower number. THats not how negotiations work. I would tell her why I am worth the higher figure, how I came to it, and why I would only leave my current position for a salaray comparable to the higher figure. Id be open to negotiate, but I wouldnt undercut myself just cuz they say no. 