<prompt> Human: Throwaway since my girlfriend knows my username.Simple enough, does the Tiffany name in jewelry matter? I plan on proposing to my girlfriend in the near future, so Ive been looking at rings. Ive done my research, and understand the 4 cs carat, clarity, color and cut very well as well as how diamonds are intrinsically worthless. It really comes down to a matter of opinion, and Im curious as to what other think. Here are some numbers:-Tiffanys retail for the ring I was looking at - 16k I dont think so-Exact ring style, perfect size, used less than a year old - 12kI know Tiffanys rings have a big markup, and you are paying for the name. That is why I would probably never buy a retail ring from them. However I found the exact style and size I needed in a used ring. The only kicker is that it is an H Near colorless, VS1, and an Excellent cut. I can get the same size, color, cut, and clarity in a matching setting for 8.8k. In other words, I would be paying an extra 3k for the name.I also checked online to diamond values taken with a grain of salt, and sure enough, that diamond with those characteristics are worth 8.1k.What would you do? Is it that important for your girlfriendfiancéewife to say look I have a Tiffanys ring? If Im going to spend 12k on a ring, I can get an E, VVS1, and Super Ideal for that price on sites like Blue Nile and Brilliant Earth. Is the quality of the diamond or the manufacture more important?Assistant: For starters, I wouldnt spend that much on a ring unless I was so loaded it wouldnt matter.Human: Not loaded by any means, but it seems like 8k is the minimum for a decent 1 carat ring.  <response>: Youd better be debt free and making a really solid income. 