 Ndị ọzọ noge bu ndi ilo nke Plato buwo Ngwooruvi Materialist, Nkpurivi Atomist Democritus, onye ahaọma-ni Plato ledaworo ukwuu nke ọ ga-anakọta dị ka ọtụtụ nime ọrụ nwere ji kpọọ ha ọkụ, na Diogenes nke Sinope, ma ọ bụ Diogenes na Cynic, onye Plato na-akpọ otu Socrates puwo ara, na onye, kọrọwo-ni, mgbe Plato gwara Diogenes na ọ gaghi eji aka ya asa onwe ya akwọnriba salad ma ọ bụrụ na ọ mụtara e nyewo Daịọnisiọs nsọpụrụ , zaghachiri na, ọ bụrụ na Plato mụtara na-asa ya onwe ya akwọnriba, ọ ga-enweghị-abụ ohu nke Daịọnisiọs. 