 Ramba uchinyora ndima ino - Kutenda murubhabhatidzo rwomumvura uye chimiro chedzidziso chokuti avo vari kunze kweChechi yeKaturike havaponeswi kunogona kuwanwa muzvinyorwa zvavanababa vokutanga uye zvisarudzo zvemakurukota eEcumenical. Somuenzaniso, Pope Eugene IV, muCouncil of FlorenceAkazivisa kuti: Uye sezvo rufu rwakapinda munyika nomunhu wokutanga, kunze kwokunge takaberekwa patsva nemvura noMweya, hatigoni, sokutaura kunoita Chokwadi, kupinda muumambo hwokudenga Johani 3:5. Chinhu cheiri sakaramende mvura chaiyoiyo uye yomuzvarirwo. John Chrysostom: Uye vahedheni vanofanira kuchema zvakanaka, avo vasingazivi Mwari, vachifa vanoenda pakarepo kuti varangwe. VaJudha vanofanira kuchema zvakanaka, avo vasingatendi muna Kristu, vakagadza mweya wavo kuti uparadzwe.Papa Gregory XVI:Pakupedzisira vamwe vevanhu ava vakatsauswa vanoedza kuzvisimbisa ivo nevamwe kuti vanhu havaponeswi chete muchitendero cheKaturike, asi kuti kunyange vanyengeri vanogona kuwana upenyu husingaperi. Feeney akanzwa kuti, mumazana maviri emakore apfuura, vamwe vaiwanzowedzera pfungwa ye rubhabhatidzo rwechido kuti ibatanidze vose vanoedza kurarama upenyu hwakanaka, kunyange avo vaisada ukama neChechi yeKaturike. Feeney akataura kuti avo vane mwoyo yakatendeseka zvechokwadi vachatungamirirwa naMwari kuChechi yeKaturike. Iye akagamuchirawo hapana chimiro chorubhapatidzo sokunovhura nzira yoruponeso kunze kwomumvura uye bedzi mukati meChechi yeKaturike, asi iye akataura kuti ikoku kwakanga kuri murangariro. Iye akaramba kushanda kworuponeso kwechishuvo bedzi, kunyange chishuvo chakajeka chokubhapatidzwa, uye akataura kuti Mwari anofanira kuva akagovera avo vakafira kutenda avo sezviri pachena vakafira kutenda vasina kubhapatidzwa nomushumiri nemvura kuvabhapatidza vasati vafa. 